The title card says it all, really. Supes and Cap shaking hands, huge grins on their faces. You'd imagine a huge collective *"OH SHIT!"* from Marvel's bad guys.
Superman encountering the Guardians of the Galaxy would be a really interesting crossover as well as his interaction with the X-Men would cause me to feel immense relief and shed tears from their heart to heart moments
The xmen crossover would have moments that would directly address Supe’s humanity and how much he inspires others. . To young mutants, Superman is their role model. He is an out and proud “other” who is beloved (mostly) by the world who uses his powers unabashedly. He speaks out to support mutants and never hates them. Superman is a target by mutant hate groups, sentinels, Nazis etc. plus his good looks would make any of the teenage xmen swoon over him. Can you imagine x-23 having a secret crush on him? Plus the Superman 90s comics did have him befriend a group of mutants in metropolis’s underground. The more violent/cynical/odd looking members would have a more reserved view-I mean Superman’s an invulnerable human looking alien who preaches Goodness no matter what, how could he know what it’s like? Raises questions of privilege. Magneto would both respect supes and be disappointed. He would see Superman really is this Boy Scout who saves mutants and wouldn’t outright try to kill him in combat, but he would be angry that Superman dosnt overthrow governments/kill mutant bigots. To him, Superman is the pinnacle of super powered people who are SUPERIOR to humans. Why should someone like Superman listen and care for humans who would kill him and mutants for being different? He also wouldn’t imagine supes having a secret identity because like lex, why would anyone who looks like a human, has those powers, EVER want to be human? Magneto may be one of the few mutants who could kill Superman by going after the iron in supes’s blood. Supes, while being sympathetic to magneto’s backstory, would be harsher on him considering magneto’s crimes; he does hope magneto reforms. Perhaps we get a moment where Clark Kent (and Lois) is assigned to interview magneto. Magneto is surprised by this human reporter’s honest questioning and empathy. Perhaps during the interview some kind of excitement happens and Kent saves a mutant in front of magneto-briefly making magneto pause on his beliefs.
@@bradhorowitz2765 I can see the many anti-Mutant villains constantly attempting to create unique Sentinels specifically designed to target and (allegedly) beat Superman but of course Supes doesn't stay down and constantly destroys them in many creative ways (even if those Sentinels had countermeasures designed to exploit Superman's weaknesses).
@@CB-eo6xo yeah. And it not only raised the stakes of the nonkryptinians battling the sentinels but it puts Superman in a position where he might feel responsible-Afterall he is such a paragon that he feels guilt for anything related to him. I can see lex luthor rubbing it in supes’s face: “you think you’re so great except without you, bolivar trask never would have thought of making a super sentinel, bastion might have been weaker without you, face it Superman your a danger to the world.” The days of our future past has Superman leading an underground resistance against the sentinels, the earth covered by red sun radiation, and the sentinels equipped with Kryptonite and enhanced metal. He is depowered but still stronger than a normal human. Bastion, while still more of a xmen villain since it ks designed to hunt mutants, is equipped with kyryptonite blasts to deal with Superman.think of it as a metallo
Just wanted to say, I love this whole thread! As a fan of both Superman (favorite superhero next to Spider-Man) and the X-Men. Superman being an inspiration towards young mutants all around the Earth about things getting better, despite not being a mutant himself, due to how proud he is to be an alien that helps those in need no matter how small or big, is a simple concept that can be much more complex in bigger storylines. He's not a mutant, but he is a sign of how much people can come around to loving those who are different, and he would be more than happy to help the X-Men. I can certainly see some of the younger students and current members of the X-Men liking how positive Superman is, along with heart-to-hearts with Xavier and philosophies about helping others.
It’s a great idea! Since Superman arrived in the modern day, obviously ww2 already happened. In spectacular Spider-Man, Greg Weissman said that uncle Ben was a fan of Captain America so Peter likewise became a fan. I could see that being Clark’s early admiration for the Captain. Pa and Ma both cpuld be fans of the captain, collecting old comics, or news articles from their own relatives who’s served in ww2, and because Captain represents the best of America, Clark would easily see Steve as the best hero. Here’s a story: years later, a more experienced Superman and Captain are alone eating a McDonald’s sandwich going over their day. Captain America remakes that he wishes he could do more for the world just like Superman. Supes replies that Steve is only a man, and that he instead wishes he could be like Steve much to caotain’s confusion. Superman explains that he grew up on Captain America’s morals, they guided him when he felt angry at someone or something, they taught him what it meant to be a hero. Captain America served in a war against fascists with only his fists and shield, and then became the leader of the avengers. To Clark, that was more impressive than being invulnerable and it’s why he will hold Captain America, not himself, as the best hero. Cap is silent, overcome with emotion but smiling .
@@brunoelribeiroI mean in terms how when they release yes but in context in universe it should be like that unless you want Superman to land in the 1900s and him and Cap fighting in ww2 in which case would not fit well since most Superman have him land on earth in either the 1980s-1990s as a baby.
@@ghostops4022 @ghostops4022 Yes, as they were originally conceived, Superman serving as the inspiration for all others that came after. As in the world of John Byrne's Generations.
I love that someone realizes how important him actually being a symbol of hope is to his character at its core. It's not something he develops as an adult, it's something he Inherently has because of his upbringing and heritage.
If Superman existed in the Marvel universe, James jonah Jameson would be the biggest Superman stan while also still hating Spider-Man and all because of mask Vs No mask. lol
If what works in DC works in Marvel Peter Parker could wear glasses and Spiderman could be without a mask. They'd work together as reporter and videographer.
Retroactively making Superman exist in the Marvel universe would change a few things, growing up he’ll probably assume he’s a mutant most of his childhood and probably wouldn’t have has many questions about his origins leading to Johnathan and Martha revealing his alien heritage much later in life, now this won’t change much as he would still hide his powers due to mutant persecution but he may get in contact with Charles Xavier to help him with his powers, Professor X would figure out his true origins pretty quickly and would either tell him then or wait for his parents to, either way he would train him. Clark wouldn’t join the X-Men as at that point they wouldn’t be as publicly active but would publicly debut as Superman after his training likely predating the Fantasy Four. Clark would likely take a job at the Daily Bugle developing a relationship with Betty Brant and eventually become a mentor/older brother figure to Peter Parker. He’ll make regular enemies out of Osborn, King Pin and most especially Dr Doom. And the biggest impact would be how proactive he is as a hero, see with some exceptions most of the Marvel heroes are reactive only responding when trouble comes up and typically staying in their own lane while Superman is always on the job with no issues too big or too small for him to intervene, he’ll stop a natural disaster but will also take the time to save a cat from a tree. Another effect would be how Superman inspires the public and other heroes, Superman would actively and publicly support Mutant rights and inspire others heroes to do the same, with Superman as the glue the Avengers would be a much more organised and unified group like the Justice League and events like Civil War wouldn’t escalate as far as they did. Overall Superman’s presence in Marvel would make more like DC.
I dunno about him meeting the xmen at an early age. Cerebro detects mutants-aka humans with mutations. Clark wouldn’t be one. Plus he’d be told early on he is an alien. Assuming he goes to New York, yeah you’re spot on. I def see him being friends with Peter, appreciating his easy going nature and his youth . Basically Jimmy Olson. Plus it’s be interesting to see how Betty Brent and him would date. Perhaps it becomes more like a close friendship. Betty Brant Afterall hated secrets, didn’t like the super heroic events, and was more uptight. I actually see him perhaps being attracted to more outgoing no nonsense women like silver sable, black widow, and storm. Honestly considering he is quite proactive guy, he def cut down crime pretty quickly with guys like fisk, dock ock, Norman Osborn, perhaps ending up in jail much quicker (not permanently mind you cuz comics aha). And supes’s active stance would probably encourage the avengers to be more organize kind alike how he encouraged such a group in JLU. It’s possible events like civil don’t escalate because of this cohesive strategy and his ability to mediate.
@@bradhorowitz2765 I meant that Clark would seek out Xavier, he would want to learn to control his powers so it makes sense that he would go to the person who could help him with that. I suggest Betty because he would be around her a lot and she does have a similar personality to Lois but yes she is a bit more uptight compared to Lois’s more adventurous personality, you suggestions would work to especially Storm given his relationship with the X-Men and her personality being similar to that of Wonder Woman.
@@Andrew-Bastin hm…him going to Professor x might workand be a great story although wasn’t Charles Xavier secretive about being a mutant until Grant Morrison? And yeah betty Brant would have some similarities with the best fictional reporter of all time. And Clark would be more mature, more closer to Betty’s age than Peter was. Although would Betty and Clark break up similar to Peter and Betty? I think so considering how that turned out, Betty isn’t as keen on excitement. And Clark would always demand assignments that are “dangerous.” I actually didn’t realize stem and Wonder Woman would be similar personality! Good call. Def can envision, Clark and ororo seeing each other as strikingly beautiful not only physical but personally.Perhaps the two see a person who can understand each other best. Perhaps we get a moment where the two are sitting on clouds (storm using her powers to make a cloud solid), where the two discuss how they see the world. Storm says that everyday she is asked to deliver favorable weather to a regio, and she does so happily but knows that when she leaves the normal weather returns and institutional injustices prevail. She asks Superman what he thinks of this, and he admits that everyday he hears millions crying out for help and he can save some but not all
Superman would definitely be more with the X-Men. He would be seen like Captain America and treated like an icon. And unlike Cap, he’d be arguing for mutant rights. And he’d be buddies with Cap and Spider-Man. I don’t think he’d take a side in Civil War. No. He would bring the hammer down to stop it and calling out everyone for their bullshit.
Cap has been an ally to mutants. I mean the guy let mutants onto his team numerous times and has battled villains who are hostile to the xmen. And yeah, as much as I hate civil war, supes alone by appealing to the public (assuming lex isn’t elected president at the same time), to not create a registration similar to the canon and he’d immediately try to bring all sides together for a conference.
Cmen and mutants is where he would find people Closest yo his level even the main balancing factor of op characters in marvel is most are neutural mutants who kind of flip flop sides and font care about solving crime
I imagine Logan/Wolverine would be his grumpy uncle figure, as much as he tries to he cannot hate the young Clark. I always imagine Logan calling him as "Boy Scout" or just "Scout".
Peter parker could very easily fill the role of jimmy Olson, but because he's also a super hero they could help each other out, cover for each other if they had to leave suddenly, it would he a very fun dynamic. Also, JJ would veiw superman as the ideal hero and spiderman is still a menace which both peter and clark would hate Also, i can't see a marvel world where superman doesn't lead peaceful protests for mutants, hed be front and center to help them and be the biggest speaker of mutant rights
Aha. It’s be funny for spidey to slap his head in frustration as JJ goes on and on about how great supes is. To JJ Superman is WHAT. A hero should be. He didn’t wear a mask, he dosnt look he threatening. He didn’t have a history of being in a less than savory job, he always speaks with good morals and always tells the truth. Obviously this is a very simplified picture of superman JJ would have, but it fits his own needs. JJ needs heroes he can trust in a cynical world especially when he wants people to be like his son.
I think one of the reasons that JJ doesn't like Spiderman is because he hides his face behind a mask so he would take a liking to Superman. Very funny how that interaction falls into place perfectly lol
@@Misaka05050 can you imagine this scenerio: One day JJ is rambling to Robbie about Superman. Jj:”Another robbery stopped by this alien? Who is he Robbie! Another spandex costume idiot pulling up some kind of heroic crap! Like we got enough from that spider menace.” Robbie, eyes wide open now:”Uhhh…Jonah..” Jj:”Where did he come from? What does he want? No one except Captain America is a Boy Scout! Why my own son is…” Robbie:”Jonah!” Jj:”what??” Robbie: Look outside Superman is out side looking at Jonah. Superman:”Mr Jameson, can we have brief word?” Jj:”Uhh..yeah..sure..Robbie get the kid Parker in…” Superman: Mr Jameson, your concerns are reasonable. It must be terrifying to see a real life alien up close and in your city. I want to reassure you that I am only here to help. I am not above the law. If it is any help, I can do an interview of sorts, perhaps monthly. That way the people can bette know who I am and what I stand for. But I can’t guarantee I’ll be available every time due to unforeseen emergencies that I am needed to help in. Is this ok?” Jj: “yes…I mean YES!” Superman: great oh and Mr Jameson, I don’t appreciate your cos rant attacks on Spider-Man. He is a hero, I have worked alongside him and he has proven he is here to lend a helping hand. I must go now we can set up the interview dates later. Jj: you see that Parker?!? That’s a true hero, no masks, polite, no stupid jokes, no ego, my god he really is pure!” Peter: and he is a fan of Spider-Man! Spidey must be a hero if Superman vouches for him! Jj: ah you wish! Superman is too naive! Anyone can be fooled. Spider-Man is so tricked!
@@abeclark524the durability issue is a MCU thing typically the problem with wielding all of the stones is the mentality of the person wielding them in the comics thanos achieved everything but subconsciously made himself lose so people with great mental capacity can utilize the stone without much issue. Cap also used it and nothing bad happened to him as well as other characters without thanos and hulk level durability.
I love the idea of almost the entire marvel universe looking up to Superman for being an extremely powerful and good hero. Where as Superman would look up to captain America for being a good man.
I can see Superman and Magneto sitting down and talking, Superman coming to an understanding about Maxs motivations, even if he disagrees with the methods.
Instead of the daily planet, superman would most likely work at the daily bugle due to metropolis not existing. I have a feeling his jimmy olsen would 100% be peter parker instead since they both practically have the same jobs.
He would definitely support mutants. He may even single handedly change the narrative on mutants. Because if you want to kill mutants, knowing you may also have to face Superman may make you think twice before building Sentinels for another genocide.
@@jag_rex2412 for superman to live in the marvel universe there must be a krypton and if there’s a krypton there must be kryptonite so that’s it really
@@LoganBradbury-yt1lj yes but in this scenario it's literally just Superman in the marvel universe. No Krypton, no Zod, no Supergirl, no Fortress of Solitude or Krypto. *Just* Superman.
"...And years later they'll tell how they stood in the rain for hours just to get a glimpse of the one who taught 'em to hold on a second longer. I believe there's a hero in all of us, who keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride." You're overlooking the impact Clark Kent would have on the Marvel Universe because, forgive me, you're so focused on the Super you forget just how super the man is. Even without superhuman powers, Clark is still the anti-Jameson who inspires the public to love heroes (including soldiers, firefighters, police, paramedics, and other "everyday heroes,") and teaches those heroes to be their best selves. Give a man like that "powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men," and the entire world changes. "They can be a great people, Kal-El; they wish to be.They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all -- their capacity for good -- I have sent them you...."
Honestly, I am less interested in Superman's strength and versus matches, but more his impact. He is the premium Superhero who is going around the world almost instantly to stop crime, rescue a cat out of a tree, fix a girl's popped tire, etc. He's doing what all these Heroes can only dream of doing, but there is also all that Marvel cynicism. Would Superman be as loved over there as he is in DC where everyone struggles to find problems with such a universal positive or would the pessimists turn against him in the same way they are towards the Mutants? I know Damage Control wouldn't like Superman just fixing all that collateral damage almost instantaneously. Darn Alien is stealing our jobs. He might make Xenophobia worse because he is outclassing everyone and everything around.
Aha It’s funny to see if damage control employees would privately admit supes is taking away business however, as Superman is always on the move and would appreciate help, I can see them still making a profit. Heck they may even be asked to develop super villain cells. Although the second ceo, kingpin, would be a pissy mood every time Superman foils his plots. Although we could have a story where kingpin actually wants Superman to save the day, knowing the company would would be asked to help rebuild. As for the bigotry, he would absolutely face more bigotry. It may even be more on supes mind that he isn’t human. It would be great to see Superman deal with this internal fear. Probably the first years of his career is him speaking with escalating xenophobic villains who are creating more powerful weapons to kill him and the emerging mutant population-a classic response to his power. Sentinels with kyptonite and harder metal, etc And he may even be accused by humans and mutants of being responsible. But we see what his positive effects are-that his personal deeds to help mutants and humans makes people realize “hey he’s not scary, and he’s helping me.” Perhaps we get panels of a young kitty prude and young morph, both crying alone, having been bullied or fearing their own powers, suddenly see this on the tele: “today, Superman stopped a mutant trafficking ring in Dallas. Superman personally made sure all victims were escorted to the local hospital and has demanded an investigation into why the local police did not take action. As he flew the individuals to the hospital, he was met with anti-mutant protestors, but Superman Ignored them and has remained guarding the hospital for the time being.”
@@bradhorowitz2765 Superman literally escorting those victims to the hospital and guarding it while calling out local law enforcement. That just makes me smile. Imagine if the nature of the bigotry makes Superman more selective or at least other Heroes more selective. Some Heroes may revere Superman that they don't want to risk hurting his reputation by having any association with him because guys like Spider-Man, Hulk and Wolverine would be public poison to the trust Superman's been steadily building over the years. One team up, could set his efforts back by months. In a "You're doing way too much good out there, for me to mess that up. I can take my lumps on my own." Rather than taking that helping hand he offers.
@@JakeSmith-mq5dc that would be a possibility, heroes who don’t exactly have great PR or spotless last night be worried about being seen as a friend of Superman. Here’s how it could play out: in avengers mansion, Wolverine, Spider-Man, black widow, and hulk are all sitting around a take just chatting. Superman appears and says “Great you guys are here, there’s a charity event going on for the local hospital and the hospital wants some heroes to come by. I won’t be able to make it for the entire event but I’ll want you all to come by and represent…why are you all looking at me as if I got two heads?” Wolverine: “Boy Scout, I don’t do well with the public. Don’t think the public want to see a mutant with claws whoose got a body count. I’ll take a back seat, don’t wanna ruin your image.” Spidey: “I mean I’ll go, but you sure you want to be seen around me? Old JJ will put some garbage out about me and I don’t want you getting the what.” Black widow: “I…well you know my past.” Hulk: “puny humans will hate and hurt hulk. Attack hulk, Superman is more loved, hulk don’t want to hurt you Superman.” Superman: “everyone, you’re not what the papers or anyone says you are. You are avengers, heroes who have given your lives to save others, you all deserve some appreciation from the crowd, I wouldn’t ask you if I didn’t believe so. Everyday I hear millions crying out for help, it breaks my heart, But what also makes me smile is when I hear when someone in trouble is overjoyed that you Logan, you Natalia, you Peter or you hulk was there to save them.”
Only dream off matters most popular heroes ofly are not the sgronhesg in marvel most ghe most powerful are random omega level mutangs eho are trying go jusg live their lives
I think focusing on Tony Stark being Clark’s Batman is ignoring the most obvious Batman figure for Clark; Black Panther. He’s a richer, stronger, and just as broody version of Batman. I recall he also doesn’t have a qualm about killing.
It’s be a complex relationship. One filled with respect, and also reservations. Superman would admire black panther for similar reasons to Batman: a man who has proven himself time and time again as not only the smartest person in the room, but one who pushes himself to be amongst gods. Black panther has used his influence to better the world. The two get into conservations about science and philosophy. T’challa admires Superman for being a decent person who didn’t abuse his godlike powers, who fights for equality and justice and for respected wakanda. If anything Superman is what t’challa views as the right “white ally,” someone who won’t mansplain, disrespect, misappropriate etc. However, Superman and black panther will have issues. Black panther developed plans to kill Superman after spying on him and isn’t apologetic about it. To t’challa this is necessary as supes is among the most powerful being son the planet. This is a betrayal to Clark. Plus supes is taken aback by t’challa’s ruthlessness as a leader at times. Maybe black panther’s sister and Superman end up being a couple? It’s be adorable and cool.
Naaa, tony stark has the bravery to take on hulk and thor... (and vs these two there is not kriptonite) that is something only batman would do if he was in the marvel universe.
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I could see Thor asking for superman help on Asgard home of the norse gods and they could even introduce general zod and his crew and after defeating all the Enemies thor and superman becoming good friends and thor giving superman a gift for helping him a hammer maybe like the one from the rwby justice league crossover the superman used 😊
He could simply take Ulik's brass knuckles and give them to Clark (for those who don't know, Ulik the troll is an old time enemy of Thor. He's strong enough to take the God of Thunder on with his bare hands, and pulls out his brass knuckles when Mjollnir comes into play - as, despite the name, those beauties are made of Uru Metal, exactly like Mjollnir itself, so when Ulik sees the hammer coming he just punches it away.) The only problem is that 1) Ulik isn't always evil - he's just a loyal soldier for the Troll king, and 2) as far as I know, he's still a member of NYPD's Code Blue, the anti-super police squad (he never officially resigned before returning to his home realm) so they'd be fighting a cop, something Clark wouldn't like.
It's interesting you bring up Doctor Doom, as his magic could floor superman. You've also got beings like Scarlet Witch, Dormammu, The whole of the sanctum sanctorum, and more who could make sure he isn't just immortal. Also i think Supes would love vision.
@@jack-exzolt9858 Um, in the comics Brainiac is only an enemy of Supes due to circumstance - he's actually a Coluan, from planet Colu, whose entire population is composed of super-smart people (he's a genius even for a Coluan, though). So, unless Colu exists in the Marvel Universe, Brainiac isn't feasible.
You have a really good point on Superman getting along with the X-Men because the big thing he’s struggled with his entire life is not feeling that he’ll ever be human because of his powers. For most of his life he had to hide his alien heritage and in some way he may find solidarity with mutants who are isolated from humanity. Their experiences are parallel to one another. I could see Superman going out of his way to help the X-Men with mutant rights more so than the Avengers do.
Depending on the timeline I think sups would probably initially identify as a mutant until his alien origins become known to him, and would 100% become an ally to the xmen. He'd probably view cap as a role model (might even have his poster on his wall as a kid). He'd probably dislike tony initially due to his history as an arms dealer and playboy but would come around once he sees that he is being honest with his intentions to turn things around and do good. I could see superman having a similar relationship with the hulk to the one he has with bizarro in the 90s cartoon sort of being the big brother who can take the hits from the hulk while trying to calm him down and figure out the problem. I could see sups taking on a mentorship role to spidey and ironically enough i think spidey would probably have a much less choatic and more stabble life with a mentor like superman to guide him.
I think when he first gets powers, he'd think of himself as a mutant, prompting Martha and Jonathan to tell him the truth right then and there. He'd still probably go to Xavier's though, it's an environment where he can learn his powers and be around kids his age (and of course Charles would welcome him). Once he grows up, he'd use his speed to travel around the world, rescuing mutants and doing good deeds in the process, creating the urban myth of some "super man" defending mutants. Magneto would probably try to recruit him to no avail during this time. Then he'd take a job at the Bugle to try and hear about mutant hate crimes as they happen but he'd fired in a day because JJJ's slander about heroes would cause Clark to sock him in the nose. And at some point, enter Zod and Superman joins the Avengers to help fight off the invasion.
Depending on when he was adopted by the Kents, he would likely grow up hearing stories of WWII Captain America and knowing that a person with the ideals both his fathers try to instill upon him already existed. It wouldn't be something he would have to grow and represent to the world, the world had already seen it, so he would probably grow upon wanting to follow that legacy. Then Cap gets thawed and returns and... as strange as it is for me to think it... I can see Clark being a bit of a fanboy... Agent Coulson... if Agent Coulson was able to thoroughly trounce his idol.
If supes was in the Marvel Universe his close friends would be, Captain America, Spidey, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Captain Marvel. His enemies will be Titania, Abomination, Mister Sinister, Juggernaunt, The Enchantress, Thanos, The Excutioner, The Wrecking Crew, Terrax, and Weapon H. His love interest would be Spider-woman, Psylocke, Storm, Emma Frost, and Scarlet Witch.
Well maybe weird comparison, but as you describe it, I would think Peter/Spider-Man would be Superman's Jimmy Olsen. I would compare dr. Doom more to someone who would turn Super-Man. Like how he became Red Sun Super-Man being raised in Russia. Doom probably would identity Super-Man's potential and make him a Latvaria resident very early on.
That... just gave me this amusing image. "Boss, I have good news and bad news!" "Good news first." "We managed to open the safe." "And the bad news?" "We got Superman at the front door of the bank, Hyperion at the back, Sentry on the skylight and... well, our lookout just radioed in that Gladiator is moving in at absurd speeds." "Drop the weapons, boys, we're turning ourselves in." After all, what would the average villain do against Superman TIMES FOUR?
There was a crossover where Superman fought Thor, caught Mjolnir, and used it along with Captain America's shield to defeat every villain in the marvel universe.
If Superman Was In Marvel Universe J Jonah Jameson Would Idolizes Him So Much And Make So Many Positive News About All Superman Heroic Deeds And Greatest Accomplishments To The Citizens Of New York City Unlike His Completely Toxic Relationship With Spider-Man
I can imagine the irony for Jamerson of Superman, whom he idolizes, constantly telling him to respect Spider-Man more and stop slandering him as a menace.
Another point for your Superman vs Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom is considered the Supervillain, that ALL Supervillain derive inspiration from in almost the same way as Superman is for Superheroes. They are antithetical on a meta level. (I am by no means an expert on comics especially Dr Doom lore, so I can just be mistaken here. This is the reputation from what I understand. Please stop saying I am making things up)
@@5xg378 I am not making anything up here. That is Dr. Doom's reputation from what I understand. Now I can be wrong since I didn't fact check before posting, but that's totally different subject
I hate when people say the difference between us one is about gods trying to be humans (DC) and the other about humans trying to be gods (Marvel) as that's just isn't the case especially on the Marvel side, if anything the difference is one is like mythology in their stories (DC) and the other is like folktales in their stories (Marvel).
Bringing Krypton into the Marvel universe would also mean some of Supes' Krypton-based villains getting transplanted there too, like Brainiac and General Zod. This opens up doors for some interesting interactions, such as Brainiac with Ultron.
I believe Clark would work in the daily bugle and he would probably fall in love with Betty Brant instead. One of Superman enemies would probably be Abomination, Red Hulk, Gladiator, Juggernaut, Ultron and Dr. Doom. Clark would be like 10+ years older than Peter, but I believe they would be really good friends and they would be constantly hanging out and talking in rooftops. I can even see Clark turning coal into Diamonds or Gold and leaving them in Peter´s bedroom so he can sell it and get the money he needs. Clark and Steve would also be really good friends, but he would HATE Tony Stark, he would be neutral about Black Widow and Hawkeye, not sure what he would think of Bruce Banner. He would be neutral about Black Panther as well.
Juggernaut would have a superior complex towards Superman since supes is probably stronger than him and can’t overpower him. But it’s still a challenge for Superman since juggernsut’s magic strength prob hurts him and juggernaut can take hits from the hulk. Red hulk and supes prob despise each other. Supes sees red hulk as a war hawk American who should be in jail, general Ross sees Superman as a traitor to his country and a major threat to the U.S. Superman knows ultron is a threat to the galaxy, and ultron is powerful enough to almost kill Superman. His metal, intelligence, and sheer tenth allows him to keep up. And def can see brainiac and ultron having a massive rivalry. Perhaps they have a secret alliance to dominate the galaxy then to go all out on each other-winner takes all.
Superman would be still one of the most powerful characters I could see Tony or bruce saying the boy scouts or back after superman and captain America came back from a mission more likely Tony possibly hawkeye bruce isn't the joking type 😊
I think the thing that I find hardest to believe is that Superman would arrive on Earth while superheroes are already a known quantity, and therefore when S.H.I.E.L.D. is already an existing organization and still be raised by the Kent family. His ship would almost certainly be detected and intercepted by S.H.I.E.L.D. before it ever landed on some random civilian's property.
I could see superman befriending Peter parker like he did with Jimmy Olson and becoming captain America's best friend and helping Spiderman at the Daily bugle by getting the editor of Spiderman's back and proving that the editor is being to Biases against Spiderman and making the editor realize that he's right and have the editor Come right out and ask why Spiderman wares a mask and Spiderman saying to protect my friends and family if the criminals I fight ever found out who I am they would be in danger :and the reason I just use editor is you have a choice between j Jonah Jamerson or perry white oh I could see Thor being friends with superman as well 😊
In an old (non canon) crossover the two swapped workplaces - Perry White loved Peter like a son, and JJJ just KNEW Kent was the right stuff. Sadly, Clark had to go back home... and JJJ ended up BEGGING Peter to come back, because without Kent working for the Bugle the main attraction were Peter's photos - photos that Jonah did NOT have since at the beginning of the story he had fired Peter. Peter ended up going back, because while he liked Metropolis New York was his home.
Supes is one of DC's biggest personalities. He's been in more crossovers than any character other than Batman. He practically has a revolving door to the Marvel universe anyway.
I think Superman would be great friends with Spider-Man, and would definitely try to emulate Captain America. I could definitely see him siding with the X-Men in their struggles.
After uncle ben dies, Superman is gonna step up as Peter's role model. Fuck it, cousin kent. The guy that's always looking out for him in and out of superhero persona, in and out of their workplace.
bro, now i wanna see a Superman and Spider-man big brother/little brother relationship, damn you! Yeah, so assuming he's in New York (which i mean of course he is, this is marvel), I'd really like to see an interaction with him and someone like the punisher. Like, no way Superman would be okay with Frank doing his normal thing. I'd also really like to see him with the Fantastic Four, for some reason I think he'd have some interesting relationships with the team. And as you say, the Doctor Doom thing.
Superman would be quite interesting to see how he handles the scarlet witch at the times she goes crazy and subsequently goes villain. It would essentially be him having to fight an evil zatana or perhaps even an evil doctor fate.
Assuming he's just a normal Superman, he probably wouldn't do so good because Reality Warping and Magic are pretty effective against him. He might be able to talk her down though.
@@AllMight6 Maybe in his early days, Clark would be pretty vulnerable to magic and reality warping but Clark nowadays is far more resistant to it and has experience dealing with them. Back in his native comics, he recently took on a heavily amped Bizarro that was fueled by all the most powerful and potent magic across the DC multiverse. Surely, a much older and more experienced Clark while haing pretty good magic resistance due to being exposed to it so much could help him stand a pretty good chance against a villain mode Scarlet Witch.
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I think as mentioned before here, Clark wouldn’t question much about his powers at first because he’ll think he’s a mutant until Professor Xavier reaches out to him. He’ll be trained by him and be an X-Man for a short time. But he won’t be for long because he needs to be proactive about things. The bigotry on mutants would inspire him to be Superman more than he would normally. I can see him always stopping those like the FOH from violently harassing mutants while allowing mutant hating mobs to take their hate on him allowing mutants escape and tire or scare the mob off. Magneto would have a field day with him. He’ll see Kal-El as the mutant messiah, trying to convince him to lead the mutants to supremacy. But Magneto will be annoyed that Superman shares Xavier’s ideals. As for the Avengers, I can see Clark being a huge Captain America fan, for he was inspired by him. I’m less worried about how will he fight the Hulk and more on how will he help him, because it’ll be very similar to the Hulk’s relationship with Cap in EMH. And I think that the Kryptonian would have a bit of history with the Asgardians, thus Thor and the Asgardians would hold Kal-El in high regard and train him. And yes, Peter Parker would sort of be the Jimmy Olsen, while Betty Brant would be the Lois Lane if she doesn’t exist here.
Fun Fact: In the 70s/80s Marvel and Dc comic, Spider-man did meet Superman in that time where he got tricked by Lex Luthor and Doctor Octopus thinking that Superman kill 2 womans (But it was Lex Luthor disguise as Superman) getting a Superman vs Spider man fight but after that they become friends talking out about the situation (Superman would become great friends with Captain America)
Superman would probably get booted to the cosmic scene if he was a Marvel creation. Given his alien origin, and his race and villains from it would be part of the story as well, he'd have go around stopping people like Zod from conquering other worlds and what not. I see him only getting called to earth for major events.
Clark at the Bugle would mean Lois is also at the Bugle (transporting his whole story after all). The banter between Lois and Jonah would be *amazing*.
Jonah would so badly want to fire her, but resist because she would be his best reporter and she would always keep him honest, challenging his decisions and calling out his bullshit when he starts going hard on his Spider-Man hate train. Peter would love her like a little brother does when his sister gets his back.
He starts a new team outside of the Avengers called the Justice League. Who do you think would join? I know very little Marvel outside of movies while I’m a huge DC fan.
I mean, the Avengers is Marvel's analogue to the Justice League; it's the all-star team. I think it's more likely than not that if Supes were in the Marvel Universe, he would just join the Avengers. Depending on how early in the timeline he gets his start, he'd most likely be a founding member of the team.
Civil War would be very big especially if Superman died and making Cap and Starks very personal rather than philosophical. Stark, due to guilt and resentment of superman dying, would be pushed and shoved into the avengers being government controlled meanwhile Steve, who as well is in grief, would still be against it.
@@christianrapper5 You're forgetting we're dealing with a what-if scenario here, not the prime 616 timeline. Since we're dealing with a Superman who is growing up and moving to New York. Clark was a column writer and a frontpage reporter, let's not bring in semantics and technicalities here. So he would be working with Betty Brant and Robbie with Peter as his photo-op.
@@jack-exzolt9858 the thing is that Peter hasn’t worked for the Daily Bugle in years. He isn’t like Clark who has worked for the Planet for almost all of his comics canon.
The obvious of Superman meeting Captain America and Spiderman is already one thing, but I wanna see Superman wield Mjolnir and get a powerboost from it
Dr.Doom seems a little similar to Red Son Superman. Both wanted to make the world better place at any cost. Both used force in order to achieve it, protect their world from outsiders and etc... So, technically, Dr.Doom could lead Superman to that scenario with proper manipulation. However, as long as other heroes do not mess up too much, it would be mostly impossible.
I mean, it's interesting. Timeline shenanigans is something that would make this difficult, but it would be interesting to see Dr. Doom and Osborne become superman's Lex Luther... especially the later as you would assume because of that Osborne might try to model Gobblin after his DNA.... heck, the Jackal could target Superman and then the Spiderman Clone Saga becomes the Superman Clone saga. You would also think Superman would have to get his sense of justice from more of his own judgement, because the governments in Marvel seem to be a lot more manipulative and antagonistic in marvel comics, let alone you have many superheroes becoming super villains and vice versa depending on the situation. You'd wonder if Superman would suddenly run into a wall with the likes of Galactus, and if that would change how he has to solve problems... maybe superman uses his heart and brains more. I feel like he'd be enemies with Wakanda and the Hulk, and unless again he changes his sense of justice, he'd often be at odds with the X-Men because the media would be covering them poorly. I think Nick Fury would also be interesting because if he couldn't control Superman he would totally be on him like Amanda Waller, and that if Fury couldn't find any sense of control he just would never let himself trust Superman (Same feelings about why Wakanda wouldn't like him). I also think Namor wouldn't like him either. I also think Doom would totally Kill superman if pressed, but the whole "Death of Superman" story would probably change drastically because I also would see Doom secretly regretting that and bringing him back to have that adversary. Still, I could see Doom killing him totally because Superman would probably want to turn him good, and the politics of it all might also mess with Superman. It's a very fun idea, and it would be interesting, if not for the more dramatic elements I listed... but I think even with Captain America, you'd wonder if their personalities and 'isms would rub off on each other and both might become better characters. Spiderman, who knows because he has bad media coverage, Spiderman might even feel like he's not needed as a hero and be some teenage antihero closer akin to the punisher. I do wonder how much things might change with Ironman though, because there might be more of a push for Ironman to be a government man in the case that they need to go against the will of Superman. I think Superman would totally be buddies with the Fantastic Four, but I think the government also might be trying to convince Reed to join their side as well, and Reed might keep that a secret in his back pocket. Deadpool would probably adore superman though, even if Superman somewhat dislikes him.
Not to mention Kara Zor-El and Krypto... and the entire population of Daxam, a Kryptonian colony. Over ONE TRILLION Kryptonians with no vulnerability to Kryptonite (Daxam was several light years away when Krypton went poof) - but a crippling vulnerability to a metal that exists literally everywhere except on Daxam: lead. I'm not kidding. A Daxamite in a shielded suit can take on Superman and win, but mere days within Earth's atmosphere without the suit will kill him.
If living in the DC universe for superman is like everything being made out of cardboard than living in the MCU would be like living in a world of soggy paper that's been submerged in the ocean for a thousand years
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A fun thought is that if Superman’s working at the daily bugle and no who Spider-Man is he probably call on Peter to be a photographer. Basically his Jimmy giving Peter some stable work outside of freelance with someone who could cover for him if he needed to put on the mask.
Superman would show the MOST solidarity with mutants, and wouldn't ignore them unlike other teams. I also feel like Superman would try to unite all the teams under one banner (kinda like the justice league).
If Sups was in Marvel, I would like it if he and Captain America had a deeper connection. Like Steve and maybe his relatives being old family friend of the Kent family decades before Clark was adopted by John and Martha. Or John or his father serving with Cap during WW2. Or maybe Steve being a relative from John or Martha’s side of the family. Steve and the Kents share the same moral and ethical values. They don’t necessarily need to be related to share the same values, but it would be cool 😊.
Before it even starts: Superman would fix the Marvel Universe’s problems so very much. Clark’s a shining beacon of hope, inspiring people to be better, who uses his power to help as many people as possible and do the most good that can be done. For one thing, he’d be a major help to the anti-mutant bigotry
There are so many Superman knockoffs in Marvel (Sentry,Hyperion,Blue Marvel,Gladiator) yet none play a major role. They are either temporary threats or temporary allies. Never a permanent feature of Marvel comics. Dr Doom would he Supermans greatest earthy villain.
And could you do a story of Shazam in the Marvel Universe? If the Marvel company didn’t have to worry about a lawsuit from DC that forced Shazam’s (or Captain Marvel as he was known by back then) publications to end because he was outselling Superman, I'm sure the Marvel company would have licensed the rights to him. Shazam is great, but as a DC character, he’s basically turned into second or even third rate just so he doesn’t outshine Superman. A boy or teenager transforming into an adult superpowered being? That fit more Marvel’s unique superheroes back then. I can see him easily being close friends with Spider-Man.
Is it only me, or the thumbnail pic was made with Ai. Supeman's belt looks off, Cap' A on the forehead doesn't stick properly, And Sup' fingers on the left hand look also off 🤔
If superman was in the marvel universe id personally go the golden age superman have him show up right around the time of capt america or when the fantastic 4 showup really cemnet him as a pillar of the universe. Another thing that would improve would be that i think mutamts would rally behind him because unlike most superhuman superman is beloved by all and is living prove that having powers dont make you a freak but rather allows you to become the best version of yourself. Imagine his interactions with cosmic heroes like mar-vell, silver surfer, thor even captian america and blue marvel. As clark kent he could mentor spideramn and other young heroes. But the idea that has potential is sentry sinfe in this scenario sentry would be a perfected version of bizarro with implanted memories and superman helps him control of stop him when his void persona takes control.
He would befriend Spiderman and Captain America on the spot, they have too much in common, but imo Doctor Strange is the one that could deal with him if an Injustice situation happens there, maybe trap him in another dimension, of freeze him in a time loop for eternity.
A favorite "What if?" scenario of mine is what if young Clark Kent got enrolled at Professor X's academy. How would the X-Men react to a demigod from the stars who's living proof that muggles and mutants (okay, mutates and metas) can get along just fine?
@@fragile4408 Good point. In MAWS, when we first meet him Clark's fresh out of college, so maybe Ma and Pa Kent were themselves fresh out of college (and had just bought their farm) when Clark fell out of the sky and into their arms?
I mean the Xavier School had like Magik and even Kid Apocalypse, I think they'll get along just fine. Both Logan and Ororo would keep a close eye on him because he has the most promise and potential of all the kids there.
@@seanbigay1042 But you have to assume he's entering the school as Superboy first. We don't just immediately jump to Prime Superman. And like the video said, the moment he's conceived in the Marvel Universe, there's already BILLIONS of superpowered beings and Mutants before him. He's starting as a nobody, one of the many.
I think there would be a pretty significant difference between the Marvel Universe and the MCU 616 universe. But in either case, Superman would start out being a hero and as he came in contact with other aliens, they’d be Kryptonian, that’s impossible they’re extinct. The Collector would try and imprison him definitely.
I liked this. One thing though, Superman is as potent a force for good as he is in his universe _because_ of what he means to DC’s metaverse (and beyond). He is the literal embodiment of Hope there. How useful he is against guys like Thanos, reality warpers, and all those other uber threats in Marvel depends on his “Hope” status there.
@@alarkhar Seems like you missed the point. Darkseid, Mr. Mxyzptlk, and Mongul are *from* Superman’s universe. Where he, as I mentioned, is the _literal_ embodiment of hope. My OP is asking: Is Superman the embodiment of hope in the Marvel universe? If so, he’ll be fine. Better than fine actually. If he isn’t, then he’s just another: Gladiator, Thor, Hyperion type. Does that make sense?
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Gladiator. Hyperion (four or five times over). Ethan Edwards. The Sentry. Sun God. Arguably, Captain Marvel (Carol). I think.Marvel has.more Supermen than DC does.
I think Superman would get along with Spider-Man and Captain America specifically
He'd get along with Spidey ... until Spidey started hitting on Kara. Then all bets are off. 😂
@@seanbigay1042 what's wrong with me hitting on kara?
@@spider-man5544 Nothing ... until you break her heart. Then Clark breaks you! ☺️
@@seanbigay1042 Peter is not like MJ, he wouldn't do such a thing
not cap too much cause america still belives in killing and takes actions that are questionable
The title card says it all, really. Supes and Cap shaking hands, huge grins on their faces. You'd imagine a huge collective *"OH SHIT!"* from Marvel's bad guys.
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Superman encountering the Guardians of the Galaxy would be a really interesting crossover as well as his interaction with the X-Men would cause me to feel immense relief and shed tears from their heart to heart moments
Interesting question.
The xmen crossover would have moments that would directly address Supe’s humanity and how much he inspires others. .
To young mutants, Superman is their role model. He is an out and proud “other” who is beloved (mostly) by the world who uses his powers unabashedly. He speaks out to support mutants and never hates them. Superman is a target by mutant hate groups, sentinels, Nazis etc. plus his good looks would make any of the teenage xmen swoon over him. Can you imagine x-23 having a secret crush on him? Plus the Superman 90s comics did have him befriend a group of mutants in metropolis’s underground.
The more violent/cynical/odd looking members would have a more reserved view-I mean Superman’s an invulnerable human looking alien who preaches Goodness no matter what, how could he know what it’s like? Raises questions of privilege.
Magneto would both respect supes and be disappointed. He would see Superman really is this Boy Scout who saves mutants and wouldn’t outright try to kill him in combat, but he would be angry that Superman dosnt overthrow governments/kill mutant bigots. To him, Superman is the pinnacle of super powered people who are SUPERIOR to humans. Why should someone like Superman listen and care for humans who would kill him and mutants for being different? He also wouldn’t imagine supes having a secret identity because like lex, why would anyone who looks like a human, has those powers, EVER want to be human? Magneto may be one of the few mutants who could kill Superman by going after the iron in supes’s blood. Supes, while being sympathetic to magneto’s backstory, would be harsher on him considering magneto’s crimes; he does hope magneto reforms. Perhaps we get a moment where Clark Kent (and Lois) is assigned to interview magneto. Magneto is surprised by this human reporter’s honest questioning and empathy. Perhaps during the interview some kind of excitement happens and Kent saves a mutant in front of magneto-briefly making magneto pause on his beliefs.
@@bradhorowitz2765 I can see the many anti-Mutant villains constantly attempting to create unique Sentinels specifically designed to target and (allegedly) beat Superman but of course Supes doesn't stay down and constantly destroys them in many creative ways (even if those Sentinels had countermeasures designed to exploit Superman's weaknesses).
@@CB-eo6xo yeah. And it not only raised the stakes of the nonkryptinians battling the sentinels but it puts Superman in a position where he might feel responsible-Afterall he is such a paragon that he feels guilt for anything related to him. I can see lex luthor rubbing it in supes’s face: “you think you’re so great except without you, bolivar trask never would have thought of making a super sentinel, bastion might have been weaker without you, face it Superman your a danger to the world.”
The days of our future past has Superman leading an underground resistance against the sentinels, the earth covered by red sun radiation, and the sentinels equipped with Kryptonite and enhanced metal. He is depowered but still stronger than a normal human.
Bastion, while still more of a xmen villain since it ks designed to hunt mutants, is equipped with kyryptonite blasts to deal with Superman.think of it as a metallo
Just wanted to say, I love this whole thread! As a fan of both Superman (favorite superhero next to Spider-Man) and the X-Men.
Superman being an inspiration towards young mutants all around the Earth about things getting better, despite not being a mutant himself, due to how proud he is to be an alien that helps those in need no matter how small or big, is a simple concept that can be much more complex in bigger storylines.
He's not a mutant, but he is a sign of how much people can come around to loving those who are different, and he would be more than happy to help the X-Men.
I can certainly see some of the younger students and current members of the X-Men liking how positive Superman is, along with heart-to-hearts with Xavier and philosophies about helping others.
I think if Clark grew up in the marvel universe than, captain America would have been one of his biggest inspiration in becoming a hero.
It’s a great idea! Since Superman arrived in the modern day, obviously ww2 already happened. In spectacular Spider-Man, Greg Weissman said that uncle Ben was a fan of Captain America so Peter likewise became a fan. I could see that being Clark’s early admiration for the Captain. Pa and Ma both cpuld be fans of the captain, collecting old comics, or news articles from their own relatives who’s served in ww2, and because Captain represents the best of America, Clark would easily see Steve as the best hero.
Here’s a story: years later, a more experienced Superman and Captain are alone eating a McDonald’s sandwich going over their day. Captain America remakes that he wishes he could do more for the world just like Superman. Supes replies that Steve is only a man, and that he instead wishes he could be like Steve much to caotain’s confusion.
Superman explains that he grew up on Captain America’s morals, they guided him when he felt angry at someone or something, they taught him what it meant to be a hero. Captain America served in a war against fascists with only his fists and shield, and then became the leader of the avengers. To Clark, that was more impressive than being invulnerable and it’s why he will hold Captain America, not himself, as the best hero.
Cap is silent, overcome with emotion but smiling .
No, Superman is the first superhero, he is the one who should influence Captain America and not the other way around!
@@bradhorowitz2765Now this is awesome
@@brunoelribeiroI mean in terms how when they release yes but in context in universe it should be like that unless you want Superman to land in the 1900s and him and Cap fighting in ww2 in which case would not fit well since most Superman have him land on earth in either the 1980s-1990s as a baby.
@@ghostops4022 @ghostops4022 Yes, as they were originally conceived, Superman serving as the inspiration for all others that came after. As in the world of John Byrne's Generations.
If Superman existed in the Marvel Universe he'll do a lot improvements as the symbol of hope.
So much that he perhaps even prevent some infamous events like the Civil War (or at least lessen the damage of it to a massive degree).
I love that someone realizes how important him actually being a symbol of hope is to his character at its core. It's not something he develops as an adult, it's something he Inherently has because of his upbringing and heritage.
Nah Captain America already got that covered
@@Mannyhdz0052 right but double that effect
Marvel has Captain America, Who only represents one country, Superman Is a symbol for all humanity.
If Superman existed in the Marvel universe, James jonah Jameson would be the biggest Superman stan while also still hating Spider-Man and all because of mask Vs No mask. lol
And still not being able to recognize Clark as being Superman. 😆
Lol, this will be an epic comic if that happen.
If what works in DC works in Marvel Peter Parker could wear glasses and Spiderman could be without a mask. They'd work together as reporter and videographer.
@@rimasmuliolis1136Peter Parker would be about the same age as Jimmy Olsen, who do you think would replace Lois Lane? Maybe Captain Marvel?
"why can't he be like Superman?! Look at him, no mask, all integrity!"
Clark would’ve absolutely been a Captain America fanboy growing up, learning about him in school.
It would really be fun to see Captain America and Superman together!
He’d probably look up to him growing up then freak out when he finds out caps still alive
Retroactively making Superman exist in the Marvel universe would change a few things, growing up he’ll probably assume he’s a mutant most of his childhood and probably wouldn’t have has many questions about his origins leading to Johnathan and Martha revealing his alien heritage much later in life, now this won’t change much as he would still hide his powers due to mutant persecution but he may get in contact with Charles Xavier to help him with his powers, Professor X would figure out his true origins pretty quickly and would either tell him then or wait for his parents to, either way he would train him. Clark wouldn’t join the X-Men as at that point they wouldn’t be as publicly active but would publicly debut as Superman after his training likely predating the Fantasy Four.
Clark would likely take a job at the Daily Bugle developing a relationship with Betty Brant and eventually become a mentor/older brother figure to Peter Parker. He’ll make regular enemies out of Osborn, King Pin and most especially Dr Doom.
And the biggest impact would be how proactive he is as a hero, see with some exceptions most of the Marvel heroes are reactive only responding when trouble comes up and typically staying in their own lane while Superman is always on the job with no issues too big or too small for him to intervene, he’ll stop a natural disaster but will also take the time to save a cat from a tree. Another effect would be how Superman inspires the public and other heroes, Superman would actively and publicly support Mutant rights and inspire others heroes to do the same, with Superman as the glue the Avengers would be a much more organised and unified group like the Justice League and events like Civil War wouldn’t escalate as far as they did.
Overall Superman’s presence in Marvel would make more like DC.
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Someone get my guy a fryin pan cuz he's cookin right now!!!!
I dunno about him meeting the xmen at an early age. Cerebro detects mutants-aka humans with mutations. Clark wouldn’t be one. Plus he’d be told early on he is an alien. Assuming he goes to New York, yeah you’re spot on. I def see him being friends with Peter, appreciating his easy going nature and his youth . Basically Jimmy Olson. Plus it’s be interesting to see how Betty Brent and him would date. Perhaps it becomes more like a close friendship. Betty Brant Afterall hated secrets, didn’t like the super heroic events, and was more uptight. I actually see him perhaps being attracted to more outgoing no nonsense women like silver sable, black widow, and storm.
Honestly considering he is quite proactive guy, he def cut down crime pretty quickly with guys like fisk, dock ock, Norman Osborn, perhaps ending up in jail much quicker (not permanently mind you cuz comics aha).
And supes’s active stance would probably encourage the avengers to be more organize kind alike how he encouraged such a group in JLU. It’s possible events like civil don’t escalate because of this cohesive strategy and his ability to mediate.
@@bradhorowitz2765 I meant that Clark would seek out Xavier, he would want to learn to control his powers so it makes sense that he would go to the person who could help him with that.
I suggest Betty because he would be around her a lot and she does have a similar personality to Lois but yes she is a bit more uptight compared to Lois’s more adventurous personality, you suggestions would work to especially Storm given his relationship with the X-Men and her personality being similar to that of Wonder Woman.
@@Andrew-Bastin hm…him going to Professor x might workand be a great story although wasn’t Charles Xavier secretive about being a mutant until Grant Morrison?
And yeah betty Brant would have some similarities with the best fictional reporter of all time. And Clark would be more mature, more closer to Betty’s age than Peter was. Although would Betty and Clark break up similar to Peter and Betty? I think so considering how that turned out, Betty isn’t as keen on excitement. And Clark would always demand assignments that are “dangerous.”
I actually didn’t realize stem and Wonder Woman would be similar personality! Good call. Def can envision, Clark and ororo seeing each other as strikingly beautiful not only physical but personally.Perhaps the two see a person who can understand each other best. Perhaps we get a moment where the two are sitting on clouds (storm using her powers to make a cloud solid), where the two discuss how they see the world. Storm says that everyday she is asked to deliver favorable weather to a regio, and she does so happily but knows that when she leaves the normal weather returns and institutional injustices prevail. She asks Superman what he thinks of this, and he admits that everyday he hears millions crying out for help and he can save some but not all
Superman would definitely be more with the X-Men. He would be seen like Captain America and treated like an icon. And unlike Cap, he’d be arguing for mutant rights. And he’d be buddies with Cap and Spider-Man.
I don’t think he’d take a side in Civil War. No. He would bring the hammer down to stop it and calling out everyone for their bullshit.
Cap has been an ally to mutants. I mean the guy let mutants onto his team numerous times and has battled villains who are hostile to the xmen.
And yeah, as much as I hate civil war, supes alone by appealing to the public (assuming lex isn’t elected president at the same time), to not create a registration similar to the canon and he’d immediately try to bring all sides together for a conference.
Cmen and mutants is where he would find people
Closest yo his level even the main balancing factor of op characters in marvel is most are neutural mutants who kind of flip flop sides and font care about solving crime
I imagine Logan/Wolverine would be his grumpy uncle figure, as much as he tries to he cannot hate the young Clark. I always imagine Logan calling him as "Boy Scout" or just "Scout".
If Superman was in the verse he'd curse out J.J. for the way he treats Spider-Man
Well not curse out.
Basically what Captain America had done.
Superman isn't like that ,you think he's like Superman from man of steel Zack Snyder edge lord ass
nah i dont think he would to be honest. hed just give him a sterrn talking to then superman will get his name trashed too
He would call him out but not CURSE him out. He's not edgy. He rather just act like how an adult being disappointed to a kid that did something bad.
The one thing that will 100% guarantee to happen if Superman is in Marvel.
Spiderman wouldn`t be slander that much.
Only the daily bugle does that.
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Peter parker could very easily fill the role of jimmy Olson, but because he's also a super hero they could help each other out, cover for each other if they had to leave suddenly, it would he a very fun dynamic. Also, JJ would veiw superman as the ideal hero and spiderman is still a menace which both peter and clark would hate
Also, i can't see a marvel world where superman doesn't lead peaceful protests for mutants, hed be front and center to help them and be the biggest speaker of mutant rights
Aha. It’s be funny for spidey to slap his head in frustration as JJ goes on and on about how great supes is. To JJ Superman is WHAT. A hero should be. He didn’t wear a mask, he dosnt look he threatening. He didn’t have a history of being in a less than savory job, he always speaks with good morals and always tells the truth. Obviously this is a very simplified picture of superman JJ would have, but it fits his own needs. JJ needs heroes he can trust in a cynical world especially when he wants people to be like his son.
I think one of the reasons that JJ doesn't like Spiderman is because he hides his face behind a mask so he would take a liking to Superman.
Very funny how that interaction falls into place perfectly lol
@@Misaka05050 can you imagine this scenerio:
One day JJ is rambling to Robbie about Superman.
Jj:”Another robbery stopped by this alien? Who is he Robbie! Another spandex costume idiot pulling up some kind of heroic crap! Like we got enough from that spider menace.”
Robbie, eyes wide open now:”Uhhh…Jonah..”
Jj:”Where did he come from? What does he want? No one except Captain America is a Boy Scout! Why my own son is…”
Robbie:”Jonah!”
Jj:”what??”
Robbie: Look outside
Superman is out side looking at Jonah.
Superman:”Mr Jameson, can we have brief word?”
Jj:”Uhh..yeah..sure..Robbie get the kid Parker in…”
Superman: Mr Jameson, your concerns are reasonable. It must be terrifying to see a real life alien up close and in your city. I want to reassure you that I am only here to help. I am not above the law. If it is any help, I can do an interview of sorts, perhaps monthly. That way the people can bette know who I am and what I stand for. But I can’t guarantee I’ll be available every time due to unforeseen emergencies that I am needed to help in. Is this ok?”
Jj: “yes…I mean YES!”
Superman: great oh and Mr Jameson, I don’t appreciate your cos rant attacks on Spider-Man. He is a hero, I have worked alongside him and he has proven he is here to lend a helping hand. I must go now we can set up the interview dates later.
Jj: you see that Parker?!? That’s a true hero, no masks, polite, no stupid jokes, no ego, my god he really is pure!”
Peter: and he is a fan of Spider-Man! Spidey must be a hero if Superman vouches for him!
Jj: ah you wish! Superman is too naive! Anyone can be fooled. Spider-Man is so tricked!
Superman wielding the Infinity Stones would be a really entertaining sight to behold
I can see him using it in the most beneficiallly helpful ways for everyone rather than for selfish reasons.
@@CB-eo6xo Even the more Selfish versions of him would do a general good for his world, because that's Superman for you
And being as durable as he is, he would probably be able to use them, repeatedly.
@@abeclark524the durability issue is a MCU thing typically the problem with wielding all of the stones is the mentality of the person wielding them in the comics thanos achieved everything but subconsciously made himself lose so people with great mental capacity can utilize the stone without much issue. Cap also used it and nothing bad happened to him as well as other characters without thanos and hulk level durability.
I love the idea of almost the entire marvel universe looking up to Superman for being an extremely powerful and good hero. Where as Superman would look up to captain America for being a good man.
Like Captain America I could see Superman being a massive inspiration for other heroes and I also could him changing that universe for the better.
I can see Superman and Magneto sitting down and talking, Superman coming to an understanding about Maxs motivations, even if he disagrees with the methods.
Instead of the daily planet, superman would most likely work at the daily bugle due to metropolis not existing. I have a feeling his jimmy olsen would 100% be peter parker instead since they both practically have the same jobs.
He would definitely support mutants. He may even single handedly change the narrative on mutants. Because if you want to kill mutants, knowing you may also have to face Superman may make you think twice before building Sentinels for another genocide.
Doctor Doom would melt a bit of kryptonite in his suit just like he did with Dracula
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I find the fact he found the cross Jesus was crucified on and incorporates partd of it into his suit to fight undead *soooooo* badass.
Kryptonite doesn't exist in Marvel he's just left with magic.
@@jag_rex2412 for superman to live in the marvel universe there must be a krypton and if there’s a krypton there must be kryptonite so that’s it really
@@LoganBradbury-yt1lj yes but in this scenario it's literally just Superman in the marvel universe.
No Krypton, no Zod, no Supergirl, no Fortress of Solitude or Krypto.
*Just* Superman.
"...And years later they'll tell how they stood in the rain for hours just to get a glimpse of the one who taught 'em to hold on a second longer. I believe there's a hero in all of us, who keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride."
You're overlooking the impact Clark Kent would have on the Marvel Universe because, forgive me, you're so focused on the Super you forget just how super the man is. Even without superhuman powers, Clark is still the anti-Jameson who inspires the public to love heroes (including soldiers, firefighters, police, paramedics, and other "everyday heroes,") and teaches those heroes to be their best selves. Give a man like that "powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men," and the entire world changes.
"They can be a great people, Kal-El; they wish to be.They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all -- their capacity for good -- I have sent them you...."
Honestly, I am less interested in Superman's strength and versus matches, but more his impact. He is the premium Superhero who is going around the world almost instantly to stop crime, rescue a cat out of a tree, fix a girl's popped tire, etc. He's doing what all these Heroes can only dream of doing, but there is also all that Marvel cynicism. Would Superman be as loved over there as he is in DC where everyone struggles to find problems with such a universal positive or would the pessimists turn against him in the same way they are towards the Mutants?
I know Damage Control wouldn't like Superman just fixing all that collateral damage almost instantaneously. Darn Alien is stealing our jobs. He might make Xenophobia worse because he is outclassing everyone and everything around.
Aha It’s funny to see if damage control employees would privately admit supes is taking away business however, as Superman is always on the move and would appreciate help, I can see them still making a profit. Heck they may even be asked to develop super villain cells. Although the second ceo, kingpin, would be a pissy mood every time Superman foils his plots. Although we could have a story where kingpin actually wants Superman to save the day, knowing the company would would be asked to help rebuild.
As for the bigotry, he would absolutely face more bigotry. It may even be more on supes mind that he isn’t human. It would be great to see Superman deal with this internal fear. Probably the first years of his career is him speaking with escalating xenophobic villains who are creating more powerful weapons to kill him and the emerging mutant population-a classic response to his power. Sentinels with kyptonite and harder metal, etc And he may even be accused by humans and mutants of being responsible.
But we see what his positive effects are-that his personal deeds to help mutants and humans makes people realize “hey he’s not scary, and he’s helping me.” Perhaps we get panels of a young kitty prude and young morph, both crying alone, having been bullied or fearing their own powers, suddenly see this on the tele: “today, Superman stopped a mutant trafficking ring in Dallas. Superman personally made sure all victims were escorted to the local hospital and has demanded an investigation into why the local police did not take action. As he flew the individuals to the hospital, he was met with anti-mutant protestors, but Superman Ignored them and has remained guarding the hospital for the time being.”
@@bradhorowitz2765 Superman literally escorting those victims to the hospital and guarding it while calling out local law enforcement. That just makes me smile.
Imagine if the nature of the bigotry makes Superman more selective or at least other Heroes more selective. Some Heroes may revere Superman that they don't want to risk hurting his reputation by having any association with him because guys like Spider-Man, Hulk and Wolverine would be public poison to the trust Superman's been steadily building over the years. One team up, could set his efforts back by months.
In a "You're doing way too much good out there, for me to mess that up. I can take my lumps on my own." Rather than taking that helping hand he offers.
@@JakeSmith-mq5dc that would be a possibility, heroes who don’t exactly have great PR or spotless last night be worried about being seen as a friend of Superman.
Here’s how it could play out: in avengers mansion, Wolverine, Spider-Man, black widow, and hulk are all sitting around a take just chatting. Superman appears and says “Great you guys are here, there’s a charity event going on for the local hospital and the hospital wants some heroes to come by. I won’t be able to make it for the entire event but I’ll want you all to come by and represent…why are you all looking at me as if I got two heads?”
Wolverine: “Boy Scout, I don’t do well with the public. Don’t think the public want to see a mutant with claws whoose got a body count. I’ll take a back seat, don’t wanna ruin your image.”
Spidey: “I mean I’ll go, but you sure you want to be seen around me? Old JJ will put some garbage out about me and I don’t want you getting the what.”
Black widow: “I…well you know my past.”
Hulk: “puny humans will hate and hurt hulk. Attack hulk, Superman is more loved, hulk don’t want to hurt you Superman.”
Superman: “everyone, you’re not what the papers or anyone says you are. You are avengers, heroes who have given your lives to save others, you all deserve some appreciation from the crowd, I wouldn’t ask you if I didn’t believe so. Everyday I hear millions crying out for help, it breaks my heart, But what also makes me smile is when I hear when someone in trouble is overjoyed that you Logan, you Natalia, you Peter or you hulk was there to save them.”
Only dream off matters most popular heroes ofly are not the sgronhesg in marvel most ghe most powerful are random omega level mutangs eho are trying go jusg live their lives
@@demonic_myst4503 Some misspellings here, um, you saying any one comparable to Superman are typically Omega Mutants who are more civilian than Hero
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I think focusing on Tony Stark being Clark’s Batman is ignoring the most obvious Batman figure for Clark; Black Panther. He’s a richer, stronger, and just as broody version of Batman.
I recall he also doesn’t have a qualm about killing.
It’s be a complex relationship. One filled with respect, and also reservations.
Superman would admire black panther for similar reasons to Batman: a man who has proven himself time and time again as not only the smartest person in the room, but one who pushes himself to be amongst gods. Black panther has used his influence to better the world. The two get into conservations about science and philosophy.
T’challa admires Superman for being a decent person who didn’t abuse his godlike powers, who fights for equality and justice and for respected wakanda. If anything Superman is what t’challa views as the right “white ally,” someone who won’t mansplain, disrespect, misappropriate etc.
However, Superman and black panther will have issues. Black panther developed plans to kill Superman after spying on him and isn’t apologetic about it. To t’challa this is necessary as supes is among the most powerful being son the planet. This is a betrayal to Clark. Plus supes is taken aback by t’challa’s ruthlessness as a leader at times.
Maybe black panther’s sister and Superman end up being a couple? It’s be adorable and cool.
Naaa, tony stark has the bravery to take on hulk and thor... (and vs these two there is not kriptonite) that is something only batman would do if he was in the marvel universe.
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I can see Superman being tested in the Weapon X project and having Mr. Sinister as his answer to Lex Lothor
I could see Thor asking for superman help on Asgard home of the norse gods and they could even introduce general zod and his crew and after defeating all the Enemies thor and superman becoming good friends and thor giving superman a gift for helping him a hammer maybe like the one from the rwby justice league crossover the superman used 😊
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He could simply take Ulik's brass knuckles and give them to Clark (for those who don't know, Ulik the troll is an old time enemy of Thor. He's strong enough to take the God of Thunder on with his bare hands, and pulls out his brass knuckles when Mjollnir comes into play - as, despite the name, those beauties are made of Uru Metal, exactly like Mjollnir itself, so when Ulik sees the hammer coming he just punches it away.)
The only problem is that 1) Ulik isn't always evil - he's just a loyal soldier for the Troll king, and 2) as far as I know, he's still a member of NYPD's Code Blue, the anti-super police squad (he never officially resigned before returning to his home realm) so they'd be fighting a cop, something Clark wouldn't like.
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@@CarmenRivas-x4w isn't that just two gravestones?
Yeah i'ma need that extended video my man. I actually really fw this one so seeing one in more detail should be fye
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It's interesting you bring up Doctor Doom, as his magic could floor superman. You've also got beings like Scarlet Witch, Dormammu, The whole of the sanctum sanctorum, and more who could make sure he isn't just immortal. Also i think Supes would love vision.
I would love to see Stark, Thor and Vision teaming up with Superman against a Brainiac-possessed Doom.
@@jack-exzolt9858 Um, in the comics Brainiac is only an enemy of Supes due to circumstance - he's actually a Coluan, from planet Colu, whose entire population is composed of super-smart people (he's a genius even for a Coluan, though). So, unless Colu exists in the Marvel Universe, Brainiac isn't feasible.
You have a really good point on Superman getting along with the X-Men because the big thing he’s struggled with his entire life is not feeling that he’ll ever be human because of his powers. For most of his life he had to hide his alien heritage and in some way he may find solidarity with mutants who are isolated from humanity. Their experiences are parallel to one another. I could see Superman going out of his way to help the X-Men with mutant rights more so than the Avengers do.
Depending on the timeline I think sups would probably initially identify as a mutant until his alien origins become known to him, and would 100% become an ally to the xmen. He'd probably view cap as a role model (might even have his poster on his wall as a kid). He'd probably dislike tony initially due to his history as an arms dealer and playboy but would come around once he sees that he is being honest with his intentions to turn things around and do good. I could see superman having a similar relationship with the hulk to the one he has with bizarro in the 90s cartoon sort of being the big brother who can take the hits from the hulk while trying to calm him down and figure out the problem. I could see sups taking on a mentorship role to spidey and ironically enough i think spidey would probably have a much less choatic and more stabble life with a mentor like superman to guide him.
I think when he first gets powers, he'd think of himself as a mutant, prompting Martha and Jonathan to tell him the truth right then and there. He'd still probably go to Xavier's though, it's an environment where he can learn his powers and be around kids his age (and of course Charles would welcome him).
Once he grows up, he'd use his speed to travel around the world, rescuing mutants and doing good deeds in the process, creating the urban myth of some "super man" defending mutants. Magneto would probably try to recruit him to no avail during this time. Then he'd take a job at the Bugle to try and hear about mutant hate crimes as they happen but he'd fired in a day because JJJ's slander about heroes would cause Clark to sock him in the nose.
And at some point, enter Zod and Superman joins the Avengers to help fight off the invasion.
Superman would definitely stand up for the Xmen
Depending on when he was adopted by the Kents, he would likely grow up hearing stories of WWII Captain America and knowing that a person with the ideals both his fathers try to instill upon him already existed. It wouldn't be something he would have to grow and represent to the world, the world had already seen it, so he would probably grow upon wanting to follow that legacy. Then Cap gets thawed and returns and... as strange as it is for me to think it... I can see Clark being a bit of a fanboy... Agent Coulson... if Agent Coulson was able to thoroughly trounce his idol.
If supes was in the Marvel Universe his close friends would be, Captain America, Spidey, Thor, Silver Surfer, and Captain Marvel. His enemies will be Titania, Abomination, Mister Sinister, Juggernaunt, The Enchantress, Thanos, The Excutioner, The Wrecking Crew, Terrax, and Weapon H. His love interest would be Spider-woman, Psylocke, Storm, Emma Frost, and Scarlet Witch.
Well maybe weird comparison, but as you describe it, I would think Peter/Spider-Man would be Superman's Jimmy Olsen.
I would compare dr. Doom more to someone who would turn Super-Man. Like how he became Red Sun Super-Man being raised in Russia. Doom probably would identity Super-Man's potential and make him a Latvaria resident very early on.
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Magneto would be the perfect Superman villain as he could challenge his ideals in the most nuanced way.
The Sentry, Hyperion are Superman analogues...so we have had these kind of interactions.
That... just gave me this amusing image.
"Boss, I have good news and bad news!"
"Good news first."
"We managed to open the safe."
"And the bad news?"
"We got Superman at the front door of the bank, Hyperion at the back, Sentry on the skylight and... well, our lookout just radioed in that Gladiator is moving in at absurd speeds."
"Drop the weapons, boys, we're turning ourselves in."
After all, what would the average villain do against Superman TIMES FOUR?
There was a crossover where Superman fought Thor, caught Mjolnir, and used it along with Captain America's shield to defeat every villain in the marvel universe.
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Ever since I was a kid I've always loved the idea of Superman showing up in the Marvel and making it a better place.
I think Superman and and Daredevil would have a relationship like Batman and Superman
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I can imagine the irony for Jamerson of Superman, whom he idolizes, constantly telling him to respect Spider-Man more and stop slandering him as a menace.
Another point for your Superman vs Dr. Doom. Dr. Doom is considered the Supervillain, that ALL Supervillain derive inspiration from in almost the same way as Superman is for Superheroes. They are antithetical on a meta level.
(I am by no means an expert on comics especially Dr Doom lore, so I can just be mistaken here. This is the reputation from what I understand. Please stop saying I am making things up)
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Dude making shit up here
@@5xg378 I am not making anything up here. That is Dr. Doom's reputation from what I understand. Now I can be wrong since I didn't fact check before posting, but that's totally different subject
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DOOM partially inspired Darth Vader.
dont make shit up bro just to hype up your favorite villain LOL
I hate when people say the difference between us one is about gods trying to be humans (DC) and the other about humans trying to be gods (Marvel) as that's just isn't the case especially on the Marvel side, if anything the difference is one is like mythology in their stories (DC) and the other is like folktales in their stories (Marvel).
Bringing Krypton into the Marvel universe would also mean some of Supes' Krypton-based villains getting transplanted there too, like Brainiac and General Zod. This opens up doors for some interesting interactions, such as Brainiac with Ultron.
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Deadpool would be trolling Superman with Henry Cavil jokes. He'd probably love him the same way he loves Captain America probably
I believe Clark would work in the daily bugle and he would probably fall in love with Betty Brant instead. One of Superman enemies would probably be Abomination, Red Hulk, Gladiator, Juggernaut, Ultron and Dr. Doom. Clark would be like 10+ years older than Peter, but I believe they would be really good friends and they would be constantly hanging out and talking in rooftops. I can even see Clark turning coal into Diamonds or Gold and leaving them in Peter´s bedroom so he can sell it and get the money he needs. Clark and Steve would also be really good friends, but he would HATE Tony Stark, he would be neutral about Black Widow and Hawkeye, not sure what he would think of Bruce Banner. He would be neutral about Black Panther as well.
I feel like his thoughts on T'Challa would e similar to aquaman considering their political similarities
I think he would be good friends with Bruce banner, he would understand Bruce struggles
Juggernaut would have a superior complex towards Superman since supes is probably stronger than him and can’t overpower him. But it’s still a challenge for Superman since juggernsut’s magic strength prob hurts him and juggernaut can take hits from the hulk.
Red hulk and supes prob despise each other. Supes sees red hulk as a war hawk American who should be in jail, general Ross sees Superman as a traitor to his country and a major threat to the U.S.
Superman knows ultron is a threat to the galaxy, and ultron is powerful enough to almost kill Superman. His metal, intelligence, and sheer tenth allows him to keep up. And def can see brainiac and ultron having a massive rivalry. Perhaps they have a secret alliance to dominate the galaxy then to go all out on each other-winner takes all.
@@bradhorowitz2765 remember that Juggernaut tried attacking Gladiator who is a rippoff of Superman with a Mawhawk
Superman would be still one of the most powerful characters I could see Tony or bruce saying the boy scouts or back after superman and captain America came back from a mission more likely Tony possibly hawkeye bruce isn't the joking type 😊
I think the thing that I find hardest to believe is that Superman would arrive on Earth while superheroes are already a known quantity, and therefore when S.H.I.E.L.D. is already an existing organization and still be raised by the Kent family. His ship would almost certainly be detected and intercepted by S.H.I.E.L.D. before it ever landed on some random civilian's property.
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I could see superman befriending Peter parker like he did with Jimmy Olson and becoming captain America's best friend and helping Spiderman at the Daily bugle by getting the editor of Spiderman's back and proving that the editor is being to Biases against Spiderman and making the editor realize that he's right and have the editor Come right out and ask why Spiderman wares a mask and Spiderman saying to protect my friends and family if the criminals I fight ever found out who I am they would be in danger :and the reason I just use editor is you have a choice between j Jonah
Jamerson or perry white oh I could see Thor being friends with superman as well 😊
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In an old (non canon) crossover the two swapped workplaces - Perry White loved Peter like a son, and JJJ just KNEW Kent was the right stuff. Sadly, Clark had to go back home... and JJJ ended up BEGGING Peter to come back, because without Kent working for the Bugle the main attraction were Peter's photos - photos that Jonah did NOT have since at the beginning of the story he had fired Peter.
Peter ended up going back, because while he liked Metropolis New York was his home.
No Civil War. No One More Day. No Captain Hydra. Captain Karen wouldn't get away with half her shit.
Supes is one of DC's biggest personalities. He's been in more crossovers than any character other than Batman. He practically has a revolving door to the Marvel universe anyway.
DC just keeps using his k in bad ways
I think Superman would be great friends with Spider-Man, and would definitely try to emulate Captain America. I could definitely see him siding with the X-Men in their struggles.
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After uncle ben dies, Superman is gonna step up as Peter's role model. Fuck it, cousin kent. The guy that's always looking out for him in and out of superhero persona, in and out of their workplace.
bro, now i wanna see a Superman and Spider-man big brother/little brother relationship, damn you! Yeah, so assuming he's in New York (which i mean of course he is, this is marvel), I'd really like to see an interaction with him and someone like the punisher. Like, no way Superman would be okay with Frank doing his normal thing. I'd also really like to see him with the Fantastic Four, for some reason I think he'd have some interesting relationships with the team. And as you say, the Doctor Doom thing.
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Superman would be quite interesting to see how he handles the scarlet witch at the times she goes crazy and subsequently goes villain. It would essentially be him having to fight an evil zatana or perhaps even an evil doctor fate.
Assuming he's just a normal Superman, he probably wouldn't do so good because Reality Warping and Magic are pretty effective against him.
He might be able to talk her down though.
@@AllMight6 Maybe in his early days, Clark would be pretty vulnerable to magic and reality warping but Clark nowadays is far more resistant to it and has experience dealing with them. Back in his native comics, he recently took on a heavily amped Bizarro that was fueled by all the most powerful and potent magic across the DC multiverse. Surely, a much older and more experienced Clark while haing pretty good magic resistance due to being exposed to it so much could help him stand a pretty good chance against a villain mode Scarlet Witch.
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Superman and Spider-Man would have a great relationship because Spider-Man would look up to Superman and Superman would respect Spider-Man
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I think as mentioned before here, Clark wouldn’t question much about his powers at first because he’ll think he’s a mutant until Professor Xavier reaches out to him. He’ll be trained by him and be an X-Man for a short time.
But he won’t be for long because he needs to be proactive about things. The bigotry on mutants would inspire him to be Superman more than he would normally. I can see him always stopping those like the FOH from violently harassing mutants while allowing mutant hating mobs to take their hate on him allowing mutants escape and tire or scare the mob off.
Magneto would have a field day with him. He’ll see Kal-El as the mutant messiah, trying to convince him to lead the mutants to supremacy. But Magneto will be annoyed that Superman shares Xavier’s ideals.
As for the Avengers, I can see Clark being a huge Captain America fan, for he was inspired by him. I’m less worried about how will he fight the Hulk and more on how will he help him, because it’ll be very similar to the Hulk’s relationship with Cap in EMH. And I think that the Kryptonian would have a bit of history with the Asgardians, thus Thor and the Asgardians would hold Kal-El in high regard and train him.
And yes, Peter Parker would sort of be the Jimmy Olsen, while Betty Brant would be the Lois Lane if she doesn’t exist here.
Fun Fact: In the 70s/80s Marvel and Dc comic, Spider-man did meet Superman in that time where he got tricked by Lex Luthor and Doctor Octopus thinking that Superman kill 2 womans (But it was Lex Luthor disguise as Superman) getting a Superman vs Spider man fight but after that they become friends talking out about the situation (Superman would become great friends with Captain America)
Superman would probably get booted to the cosmic scene if he was a Marvel creation. Given his alien origin, and his race and villains from it would be part of the story as well, he'd have go around stopping people like Zod from conquering other worlds and what not. I see him only getting called to earth for major events.
Him and Spiderman working at the daily bugle
Clark at the Bugle would mean Lois is also at the Bugle (transporting his whole story after all). The banter between Lois and Jonah would be *amazing*.
Or Betty Brant can fill Lois' role in the Daily Bugle. And Peter would be his Jimmy Olsen.
Jonah would so badly want to fire her, but resist because she would be his best reporter and she would always keep him honest, challenging his decisions and calling out his bullshit when he starts going hard on his Spider-Man hate train. Peter would love her like a little brother does when his sister gets his back.
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They should have this kind of crossovers.
Everyone thinks Hulk would wanna fight Superman, but I honestly think the Avengers would rally around Superman and have great respect for him.
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He starts a new team outside of the Avengers called the Justice League.
Who do you think would join? I know very little Marvel outside of movies while I’m a huge DC fan.
I mean, the Avengers is Marvel's analogue to the Justice League; it's the all-star team. I think it's more likely than not that if Supes were in the Marvel Universe, he would just join the Avengers. Depending on how early in the timeline he gets his start, he'd most likely be a founding member of the team.
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Civil War would be very big especially if Superman died and making Cap and Starks very personal rather than philosophical.
Stark, due to guilt and resentment of superman dying, would be pushed and shoved into the avengers being government controlled meanwhile Steve, who as well is in grief, would still be against it.
Spiderman isn’t a kid anymore. He doesn’t even take photos for the bugle.
He was a journalist for the Daily Planet, so it makes sense that he works for The Bugle as one too.
@@jack-exzolt9858 he was a freelance reporter making crap money for photos. Peter is a scientist now at the time of writing this comment.
@@christianrapper5 You're forgetting we're dealing with a what-if scenario here, not the prime 616 timeline. Since we're dealing with a Superman who is growing up and moving to New York.
Clark was a column writer and a frontpage reporter, let's not bring in semantics and technicalities here. So he would be working with Betty Brant and Robbie with Peter as his photo-op.
@@jack-exzolt9858 the thing is that Peter hasn’t worked for the Daily Bugle in years. He isn’t like Clark who has worked for the Planet for almost all of his comics canon.
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The obvious of Superman meeting Captain America and Spiderman is already one thing, but I wanna see Superman wield Mjolnir and get a powerboost from it
Superman Can’t lift it
Superman made Dr Doom run on footfor the Latvarian embassy .
I wonder what if batgirl(cassandra cain) was in the marvel universe?🤔
I wonder how the rwby characters would react in the marvel universe
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Superman enters public domain in 2034. Knowing Disney, you will probably see Superman soon than you think.
If he had to deal with JJJ instead of Perry White, he might end up with a different view of the world..
I think cap and superman would be besties, because they both have old school morals
Dr.Doom seems a little similar to Red Son Superman. Both wanted to make the world better place at any cost. Both used force in order to achieve it, protect their world from outsiders and etc...
So, technically, Dr.Doom could lead Superman to that scenario with proper manipulation. However, as long as other heroes do not mess up too much, it would be mostly impossible.
I mean, it's interesting. Timeline shenanigans is something that would make this difficult, but it would be interesting to see Dr. Doom and Osborne become superman's Lex Luther... especially the later as you would assume because of that Osborne might try to model Gobblin after his DNA.... heck, the Jackal could target Superman and then the Spiderman Clone Saga becomes the Superman Clone saga.
You would also think Superman would have to get his sense of justice from more of his own judgement, because the governments in Marvel seem to be a lot more manipulative and antagonistic in marvel comics, let alone you have many superheroes becoming super villains and vice versa depending on the situation. You'd wonder if Superman would suddenly run into a wall with the likes of Galactus, and if that would change how he has to solve problems... maybe superman uses his heart and brains more. I feel like he'd be enemies with Wakanda and the Hulk, and unless again he changes his sense of justice, he'd often be at odds with the X-Men because the media would be covering them poorly. I think Nick Fury would also be interesting because if he couldn't control Superman he would totally be on him like Amanda Waller, and that if Fury couldn't find any sense of control he just would never let himself trust Superman (Same feelings about why Wakanda wouldn't like him). I also think Namor wouldn't like him either.
I also think Doom would totally Kill superman if pressed, but the whole "Death of Superman" story would probably change drastically because I also would see Doom secretly regretting that and bringing him back to have that adversary. Still, I could see Doom killing him totally because Superman would probably want to turn him good, and the politics of it all might also mess with Superman.
It's a very fun idea, and it would be interesting, if not for the more dramatic elements I listed... but I think even with Captain America, you'd wonder if their personalities and 'isms would rub off on each other and both might become better characters. Spiderman, who knows because he has bad media coverage, Spiderman might even feel like he's not needed as a hero and be some teenage antihero closer akin to the punisher. I do wonder how much things might change with Ironman though, because there might be more of a push for Ironman to be a government man in the case that they need to go against the will of Superman. I think Superman would totally be buddies with the Fantastic Four, but I think the government also might be trying to convince Reed to join their side as well, and Reed might keep that a secret in his back pocket. Deadpool would probably adore superman though, even if Superman somewhat dislikes him.
Now I wonder, would Superman be worthy of Thors Hammer?
Yes, yes he is
Shazam would most likely be worthy as well, he's basically a pure-hearted child at heart (Billy Batson)
If we move Krypton into the Marvel Universe, you also get those three Kryptonian villains led by General Zod.
Not to mention Kara Zor-El and Krypto... and the entire population of Daxam, a Kryptonian colony. Over ONE TRILLION Kryptonians with no vulnerability to Kryptonite (Daxam was several light years away when Krypton went poof) - but a crippling vulnerability to a metal that exists literally everywhere except on Daxam: lead. I'm not kidding. A Daxamite in a shielded suit can take on Superman and win, but mere days within Earth's atmosphere without the suit will kill him.
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If cripton exists in there, both zod and brainiac probably are also there, the justice league would have big big trouble against any of those
And doomsday......
If living in the DC universe for superman is like everything being made out of cardboard than living in the MCU would be like living in a world of soggy paper that's been submerged in the ocean for a thousand years
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A fun thought is that if Superman’s working at the daily bugle and no who Spider-Man is he probably call on Peter to be a photographer. Basically his Jimmy giving Peter some stable work outside of freelance with someone who could cover for him if he needed to put on the mask.
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Superman would show the MOST solidarity with mutants, and wouldn't ignore them unlike other teams. I also feel like Superman would try to unite all the teams under one banner (kinda like the justice league).
If Sups was in Marvel, I would like it if he and Captain America had a deeper connection. Like Steve and maybe his relatives being old family friend of the Kent family decades before Clark was adopted by John and Martha. Or John or his father serving with Cap during WW2. Or maybe Steve being a relative from John or Martha’s side of the family. Steve and the Kents share the same moral and ethical values. They don’t necessarily need to be related to share the same values, but it would be cool 😊.
Dr. Doom would take his power, at least once.
Superman and Spider-man would absolutely start out with Peter being supe’s sidekick, before going off on his own as he got older, like Nightwing.
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Before it even starts: Superman would fix the Marvel Universe’s problems so very much. Clark’s a shining beacon of hope, inspiring people to be better, who uses his power to help as many people as possible and do the most good that can be done. For one thing, he’d be a major help to the anti-mutant bigotry
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There are so many Superman knockoffs in Marvel (Sentry,Hyperion,Blue Marvel,Gladiator) yet none play a major role. They are either temporary threats or temporary allies. Never a permanent feature of Marvel comics.
Dr Doom would he Supermans greatest earthy villain.
Dr. Doom isn’t even always a villain.
I can totally see Supes being best friends with Cap and Spidey. And he would totally be able to lift Mjolnir.
Fun fact; the Avengers and Justice League have had crossovers in the past, and yes, of course, Superman is Worthy.
@@muffinboymcgee7411 I know about those. And of course he is. Why wouldn't he be?
And could you do a story of Shazam in the Marvel Universe? If the Marvel company didn’t have to worry about a lawsuit from DC that forced Shazam’s (or Captain Marvel as he was known by back then) publications to end because he was outselling Superman, I'm sure the Marvel company would have licensed the rights to him. Shazam is great, but as a DC character, he’s basically turned into second or even third rate just so he doesn’t outshine Superman. A boy or teenager transforming into an adult superpowered being? That fit more Marvel’s unique superheroes back then. I can see him easily being close friends with Spider-Man.
I feel like that Clark would look up to Cap as well kid and his dad would be the one to introduce him as a symbol
He would totally geek out when he finally meets him, using his super speed to go home and get one of his comics for him to sign
@@nugget3687 I can totally imagine that
Is it only me, or the thumbnail pic was made with Ai.
Supeman's belt looks off,
Cap' A on the forehead doesn't stick properly,
And Sup' fingers on the left hand look also off
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Superman and Thor moments would go harddddd
If superman was in the marvel universe id personally go the golden age superman have him show up right around the time of capt america or when the fantastic 4 showup really cemnet him as a pillar of the universe. Another thing that would improve would be that i think mutamts would rally behind him because unlike most superhuman superman is beloved by all and is living prove that having powers dont make you a freak but rather allows you to become the best version of yourself. Imagine his interactions with cosmic heroes like mar-vell, silver surfer, thor even captian america and blue marvel. As clark kent he could mentor spideramn and other young heroes. But the idea that has potential is sentry sinfe in this scenario sentry would be a perfected version of bizarro with implanted memories and superman helps him control of stop him when his void persona takes control.
He would befriend Spiderman and Captain America on the spot, they have too much in common, but imo Doctor Strange is the one that could deal with him if an Injustice situation happens there, maybe trap him in another dimension, of freeze him in a time loop for eternity.
A favorite "What if?" scenario of mine is what if young Clark Kent got enrolled at Professor X's academy. How would the X-Men react to a demigod from the stars who's living proof that muggles and mutants (okay, mutates and metas) can get along just fine?
Define young? Because if we go young enough, he might not have enough Ma and Pa Kent wisdom instilled in him as normal.
@@fragile4408 Good point. In MAWS, when we first meet him Clark's fresh out of college, so maybe Ma and Pa Kent were themselves fresh out of college (and had just bought their farm) when Clark fell out of the sky and into their arms?
I mean the Xavier School had like Magik and even Kid Apocalypse, I think they'll get along just fine. Both Logan and Ororo would keep a close eye on him because he has the most promise and potential of all the kids there.
@@jack-exzolt9858 Promise and potential? Oh yeah! Everyone at that school is A superman -- but Clark is THE Superman!
@@seanbigay1042 But you have to assume he's entering the school as Superboy first. We don't just immediately jump to Prime Superman.
And like the video said, the moment he's conceived in the Marvel Universe, there's already BILLIONS of superpowered beings and Mutants before him. He's starting as a nobody, one of the many.
I think there would be a pretty significant difference between the Marvel Universe and the MCU 616 universe. But in either case, Superman would start out being a hero and as he came in contact with other aliens, they’d be Kryptonian, that’s impossible they’re extinct. The Collector would try and imprison him definitely.
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If someone is worthy to pick up thors hammer, to be a great for cap, then It's superman.
I liked this. One thing though, Superman is as potent a force for good as he is in his universe _because_ of what he means to DC’s metaverse (and beyond). He is the literal embodiment of Hope there. How useful he is against guys like Thanos, reality warpers, and all those other uber threats in Marvel depends on his “Hope” status there.
Three names here: Darkseid, Mr. Mxyzptlk and Mongul. I guess he'll be pretty useful anyway.
@@alarkhar Seems like you missed the point. Darkseid, Mr. Mxyzptlk, and Mongul are *from* Superman’s universe. Where he, as I mentioned, is the _literal_ embodiment of hope.
My OP is asking: Is Superman the embodiment of hope in the Marvel universe? If so, he’ll be fine. Better than fine actually. If he isn’t, then he’s just another: Gladiator, Thor, Hyperion type.
Does that make sense?
@@ZenSponge Well, yeah - I just meant that Marvel has people that correspond almost exactly to the ones you mentioned.
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Gladiator. Hyperion (four or five times over). Ethan Edwards. The Sentry. Sun God. Arguably, Captain Marvel (Carol).
I think.Marvel has.more Supermen than DC does.