Jokic looked less frustrated and the team looked more competent when Facu and Austin was the backcourt. Jokic is pretty fair tbh. He isn’t ever angry at the talent gap. Because he doesn’t believe in it. He’s just trying of playing with guys that don’t know how to be professionals. Now I’d argue he and Malone have enabled Jamal’s unprofessional behavior his entire tenure, but yeah. Jokic is most visibly frustrated when people aren’t where they are supposed to be. When they don’t make the right play. Jokic gave the team 20 plus games of everything he has and that was his grace period. That was his time to give everyone time to catch up. They haven’t. Jokic is right to be pissed. Also, Matt can’t talk about leading by example and then always give Jamal a pass for showing up out of shape and acting like an immature entitled baby.
Matt is great expert analyzer as Calvin B is GM.. Dode Jokic never play with an all star in his life and after 10 years of DN organization stubbing his prime in the back they reworded him with bunch of new kids (project dynasty) to baby sit along with 4 more years of Jamal and basically killing his chances to win anything in next 4 or 5 years.. One year Denver give Jokic half decent team he won the championship ..In reality on any decent team without acl Jamal 3b surgeries MPJ he would win at list 3 or 4 rings by now.. And Matt (loser week mindset) ask why is Jokic angry lolz ...
Remember that it was almost certainly a requirement for getting him signed in the first place was a wink wink deal to resign him to a multiyear contract. As a cheap backup he was alright. Obviously overused but that’s on Malone and Pickett not rounding into form.
Ngl, shady stuff happens all the time around the league, GMs have no loyalty. I’m always 100% pro player, but from a GM perspective, there was no reason you were strapped to that wink wink other than reputation. And nearly every gm has a bad one
How disrespectful can you be. Just cause you don't agree with what he says? Different viewpoints is what makes this interesting. Swipa just reads stats at you alot of times
This Matt guy is hilarious. He seems pretty laid-back most of the time. LOL. I hadn’t heard of him before, but apparently, he’s a sports journalist and should know the game well. The way he was talking, though, it sounded like he didn’t know a thing about basketball. I actually thought he was just a guest speaker or something. LOL.
Matt - Jamal has sucked all season long. Even in his “good games” everything comes difficult- watching him dribble 12 seconds off the shot clock trying to get and failing to get separation is like watching someone drown in a swimming pool. Yes- He has the ability to make very difficult shots and he’s very clutch. He’s a 6th man being payed 50m per year - and I’m tired of pretending he’s not.
I think that’s a stretch. Favorite to win does a disservice to the well-built teams already out there. And of course any team trading for him will have to actually give something up, if for no others reason to make the contract money work. But yeah obviously he could be doing better if he was more demonstrative on the institutional failures around him.
Idk, teams would have to give up most of their best players for it to be worth it. He might just get stuck in a similar situation somewhere else if he does that
I mean if we want to talk about Jamal, he was out a year and a half and has always shown up out of shape and been terrible to start the season. I mean really, Jamal Murray has been amazing two playoff runs. That’s kind of it?
That's entirely it. His regular seasons could have been duplicated by a crapload of other shooting guards (SG because I still don't consider him a real PG) in the league....with a lot probably playing more games as he's injury prone. Also, I'm thinking he's likely one of the reasons the team seems disjointed and players seem unhappy....he seems like a grade A d-bag a lot of the time and when he's not "on", he plays a style of basketball that basically leaves the other 4 players on the court watching him dribble the air out of the ball, take a crappy shot or lob them a grenade to have to launch with a second or so left on the clock.
Can Swipa just host this show? He is right and he is an actual Nuggets fan. Matt is wrong and he has nothing but contempt for Nuggets fans. Locked On Nuggets should be a show for Nuggets fans. Can we have a host who doesn't openly mock and belittle us on every episode? Please get rid of Matt. He has nothing to offer.
Should Joker chill out????? NO ABSOLUTELY NOT. This team had been nothing but failers all season why Jokics is having the best season of any career. Its crazy to me. SMFH
I will call out matt for this Gauging Murray after like 5 games and saying he may do the same is insane Lou will said it Murray has always been this way He is right Murray is streaky because his main weapon is his jumpshots He has no other way of beating you that's what makes him inconsistent As a player if you can't makes shots closer to the rim you are making tough shots and those shots are bound to be inconsistent Joker is consistent because he beats you in a variety of ways Murray can't He is just that way
Hasn't Jokic earned the right to vent some frustration? Yes, Denver has one championship, but Jokic has won three-arguably four-MVPs in the last four years. Why shouldn’t he demand the same level of effort from his teammates that he gives every game? The current Nuggets team is highly inconsistent, and do we really want to see another season of Jokic’s prime go to waste? I certainly don’t. I’d like to see Jokic be more vocal instead of quietly leading by example. The more he vents, the more it shows how much he cares about the game.
I have no idea what Matt is on about. How is Jokic supposed to floor raise a bunch of bums? This team is simply bereft of championship level talent. No all-time great player would make this garbage work
Murray’s health and slow starts is an issue FOR SURE, but I promise you a “bum” could never AVERAGE 26, 7, 5, 1.5 stocks on 49/42/93 in b2b playoffs on the way to WCF & TITLE (39 game sample) including 28.3, 6.4, 5.2, 2.4 stocks on elite splits (64% TS%) in 2 CONFERENCE FINALS and joined LeBron 2X, Magic 2X, MJ 1X as the only players EVER to avg 20+ & 10+ APG in the FINALS. A “bum” doesn’t become 5th player EVER to have a 30 point triple double in finals game on team that won title (joining LeBron Jokic Curry James Worthy all 1st ballot HOF). Murray has the 8th best Playoffs Points per 100 possessions (minimum 65 games he’s played and 52.6% eFG% he has). Here’s the Top12 (since 74 playoffs as that’s when per 100 possessions goes back to or else Kareem would be ahead of him): Jokic 37.2 Durant 36.8 LeBron 36.7 Giannis 36.6 Curry 35.8 Shaq 34.7 Hakeem 33.7 Jamal Murray 32.0 Kareem 31.1 Kawhi 30.8 Reggie Miller 30.5 Charles Barkley 30.0 That’s the top12 Points per 100 possessions since 1974 playoffs for players to play at least 65 games and 52.6% eFG%! All Top1-50 players of all time & Jamal Murray. I get being frustrated, but don’t ignore what he’s done at his peak either. Even last year 23-24 RS he was 14th in OBPM, 19th in BPM, & 19th in VORP per game with some amazing games in winter/spring 2024 @ Celtics win 35, 8, 6 on 15-21…31, 8, 7 at my Pacers (I was there live for it and he + Jokic both amazing especially in the clutch)…
The Nuggets are fine. No trade makes sense. Nuggets fans are simply spoiled now. Murray is hurt. Murray is a slow starter. Murray just got his big extension and is not puuting forth his best effort. All those things will change after Murray has his "Rod Tidwell" come-to-Jesus moment and finds his spark again. This team is pretty good and will make to the Western Conference Finals at the minimum.
Two things: NBA players are spoiled with long contracts and no strings attached, since apparently they have free reign, and legalization of weed made that habit more prevalent in professional sports and you see it in lack of motivation and drive. The NBA maybe won't die but it surely looks like it slowly is
13:19 you are very wrong - only Murray doesn't play the right way for most of the time . Other guts make mistakes but are trying to play the right way. When Jamal is in , everyone feeds of his selfishness
Yes Matt! We know how much you hate Jokic and use every opportunity to shit on him. I dont understand how did u get this job? You don't like Nuggets. You have never said anything constructive about Nuggets and you always find a reason why nothing can be ever done. I cant listen to your tripes and whataboutery any more.
He’s the only reporter in the denver media that isn’t an avid fan of the team. There has to be a dissenting voice in the media whether its right or not.
Yeah, I feel prognosticating on a player’s behavior when we don’t really know any of them seems a recipe for disappointment. I remember all the flowers KD got in the wake of Lebrons Decision for resigning with OKC, when all he did was sign the rookie extension that every player including LeBron did only to then have KD leave the next time around.
Denver brought in the last player via trade 3 years ago, and that is Gordon. If you know of another team in NBA history that hasn't traded anything for three years, tell me. Jokic is not frustrated because of not trading players, but because they really don't care what will happen on the field, just to get rid of the ball as soon as possible by pushing it into Jokic's hands. The product of such passes by Brown, MPJ and Julian prompted several frustrated gesticulations on the court from the Jokic stand. If you don't have anything smart to talk about on your podcasts, turn them off, thus creating unnecessary drama around player(Joker) who are not for media manipulation at any level. Maybe you should talk about the upcoming games and how Detroit won the Suns, Lakers, Kings in the last 3 away games.
Why does nobody mention this? Calvin Booth tied Jokic's 4th MVP season to whether 22 year old Peyton Watson and Julian Strawther and 23 year old Christian Braun are ready to play key roles as 5th-8th man on a championship team! It's just beyond stupid! Boston goes out to get Jrue Holiday, Porzingis and Derrick White. OKC gets Alex Caruso and Isiah Hartenstein. Denver relies on young guys who are not ready! Nuggets are simply missing key veterans who helped them win a title, and replaced them with rookies. They need playmakers who can shoot! They lack versatility! Why is it that if Jamal Murray doesn't have a good game they can't beat the worst teams in the NBA!
Matt, you can’t simultaneously tell people not to comment their opinions and then tell them you want them to keep doing it. Derision doesn’t foster engagement.
27:58 You gotta be kidding me, Matt! I don't mind that you took a moment to think it through, but then what you come up with is: _"it depends how those resources are allocated"?_ Btw, that question was a more polite way of asking: _"Yes or no, Matt, are you being insane right now?"_ And Matt answered: yes!
I laughed out loud at that based on the fact that the money they DID have was allocated to Reggie (who they dumped), Saric who is unplayable and Zeke 🤣🤣🤣
Where is Ryan bro. Agreeing all the time is not great, but disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is then worst thing you could do. Ryan be making sense at least
Nuggets should wait to make a trade. Let this season ride out and re-evaluate next year when you have more options (Jamal, AG, and MPJ would all be tradeable) and go from there. I don’t think that anything available right now would fix the nuggets enough to make a title run.
I agree. Unfortunately nothing can be done this year to make a real difference. Fire Calvin Booth and wait till next year to build a real roster around Jokic. Another lost year of Jokic’s prime unfortunately.
Matt, you don't deserve Jokic if you seriously feel like Jok needs to chill out. Props to you Swipa, keep doing what you are doing with same level of energy!
Not sure guys, I’d love to have both MPJ and Zach on the team. Zach + Torrey Craig sounds interesting. Joker needs good shooters and ball handlers around him. Daaron Fox is awesome too.
Did no one learn from Nene... very good player, but lacks aggression? MPJ is the same way. He may make aggressive plays. He might even have a great quarter, but there is no consistency That said. I'm much further out on Jamal than MPJ, but either way, one of those contracts needs to become 2 solid rotation players that don't need 3 years of development.
Swipa does this out of love (and for a paycheck). Matt Moore does this only for a paycheck - for him, it does not matter whether its the Nuggets or the Pistons or the Suns. Thats why he also can't really criticize anyone with any power, or he's out of the game.
As someone who lives in the Denver mountains I’d love jokic to request a trade so I don’t have to hear dumb takes like the one Matt gave us tonight. We don’t deserve big honey
The problem with the Nuggets is simple. They are relying on 22 year old players like Julian Strawther, Peyton Watson, Hunter Tyson and 23 year old Christian Braun to be the 5-8 players on a Championship roster. The only bench veteran in the 8 man rotation is Russell Westbrook and he's inconsistent
No top 10 all time player has done more with less than Jokic! BTW: Nuggets are on pace to win 46 games, which last year would have beaten out the Warriors for 10th place and Last Place in the play-in, if they won the tie-breaker with the Warriors and Kings (also 46). This with a player who is a top 10 all-time Hall of Famer, having probably the best season of his career! And tonight, they gave up 149 points to the Cavs while Joker put up 27, 14 and 13 on 12 of 19 shooting. And he's averaging 30, 12 and 9.5 on 57%-50% from 3 shooting on the season! This is just beyond idiotic. He's having a better individual career than Magic and Bird and Moses Malone and Hakeem, and Shaq, and Steph, none of whom ever won 4 MVPs, and in a category with Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Michael and LeBron (guys who won at least 4 MVPs)! But, only 1 championship! Where is Joker's Magic and James Worthy? Where is his Scotty Pippin? Where is his D-Wade and Chris Bosh? Where is his Tony Parker and Manu?
Matt, either Jokic is the far best player ever Or he deserves the same help as jordan and lebron and kobe got Also the celtics are not the warriors but they are closer than people wanna admit, and he is in a tougher west vs the thunder
Guys don't be mad at Matt he's just upset that soon he will not be able to use " They/Them " as his pronounce. On the serious note now, this bozo is a Jokic hater, and he also hates Nuggets fans for whatever reason. Also there is a clear bias revolving around Murray in this organization and Matt is on that train too. If you have a functioning brain you will see that. On the other hand Swipa is a true fan and hat's off to him.
Quit the lavine chatter. It's pointless. Bulls are not taking zekes 4 year contract. That's the only way besides saric and they aren't taking him either. Plus swipe thinks they are gonna get another player from the bulls.lol you already can't stack up the money for zach. Ridiculous...for guys who talk basketball for a living this is just nonsense
Nuggets fans have it all backwards. Murray not being able to handle on ball pressure doesn’t mean you need secondary ball handling. It means you need a ball handler that can handle on ball pressure. What makes the Celtics and okc good is not that they can all dribble and shoot or whatever. They’re good because most or all of them can defend on the perimeter. We all know that jokic can be attacked in the pick n roll. Who on the nuggets roster can protect jokic? Kcp was the one who did that, while also being able to space the floor. The nuggets need 3nd and I bet you that if you had a kcp type left and replaced Murray with a 3nd the nuggets wouldn’t have any problems.
The new CBA is terrible. Theres no reason they should have had to let Caldwell Pope walk. It’s not possible to build continuity that way. And Murray is the king of inconsistency-he had a couple runs but he’s always been an injury ridden player. Murray can shot make but Jokic needs a guy. Daron Fox would be nice. Won’t happen but that’s the kind of player Jokic would benefit from having.
Before Jamal Murray extension they had a chance to get better at PG. But the worst front office in NBA history is wasting the best year's of the best basketball player in the world. Celtics or Sixers would do something in this situation. Just listen to the Charlse Barkley and Shaq. Jokic has every right to do whatever he wants. He won a 70 years old franchise a championship and put them on a NBA map. Nuggets are the worst team in the NBA without Jokic. New cba is a bulls..t. Lavine is not a upgrade over MPJ
Jokic should demand a trade to leave this sorry ass franchise who didn't do shit to help him, he gave denver everything that they could never imagine and now its time to leave
wow! what a great awesome show gents! Matt is great analyst and real smart, but Sir Swipa destroyed and absolutely cooked! its very easy to find things to blame 15 when you do not even want him to win any of it, give us a real allstar caliber player and see what happens, we'll wait, we waited this lomg and still got a chip despite horrible fo over the years... also, fire Booth! idc, just get his behind out of this mess that he already created
If Jokic can get it done without another all star level player *twice* then he is unquestionably the greatest player ever. If you think he’s that good? Fine. I’m not sure he’s *that* good.
Matt, I hope you had a great weekend. I don't get the hate, besides you say things people don't want to hear. Oh wait they openly say that their lil echo chambers are breaking because of you...😂
Matt my guy I agree with you but you gotta argue these points better. Talk about the defensive limitations of that backcourt. Having to run 3 guards or Watson becoming a starter. Talk about the rebounding and size miss matches that MPJ gives us. Talk about who is going to replace Zeke's roster spot etc.
I understand Nuggets/Jokic fans (I’m a Jokic LeBron MJ Hakeem Bird Isiah Wemby fan and pops pacers diehard season ticket holder since 87-88 Reggie Miller rookie year) being frustrated with his teammates health (Murray & MPJ). Murray’s health and slow starts is an issue FOR SURE, but I promise you a “bum” could never AVERAGE 26, 7, 5, 1.5 stocks on 49/42/93 in b2b playoffs on the way to WCF & TITLE (39 game sample) including 28.3, 6.4, 5.2, 2.4 stocks on elite splits (64% TS%) in 2 CONFERENCE FINALS and joined LeBron 2X, Magic 2X, MJ 1X as the only players EVER to avg 20+ & 10+ APG in the FINALS. A “bum” doesn’t become 5th player EVER to have a 30 point triple double in finals game on team that won title (joining LeBron Jokic Curry James Worthy all 1st ballot HOF). Murray has the 8th best Playoffs Points per 100 possessions (minimum 65 games he’s played and 52.6% eFG% he has). Here’s the Top12 (since 1974 playoffs as that’s when per 100 possessions goes back to or else Kareem would be ahead of him): Jokic 37.2 Durant 36.8 LeBron 36.7 Giannis 36.6 Curry 35.8 Shaq 34.7 Hakeem 33.7 Jamal Murray 32.0 Kareem 31.1 Kawhi 30.8 Reggie Miller 30.5 Charles Barkley 30.0 That’s the top12 Points per 100 since 74 PLAYOFFS for guys to play 65+ games & 52.6% eFG%! All Top1-50 players of all time & Jamal Murray. I get being frustrated, but don’t ignore what he’s done at his peak either. Even last year 23-24 RS he was 14th in OBPM, 19th in BPM, & 19th in VORP per game with some amazing games in winter/spring 2024 @ Celtics win 35, 8, 6 on 15-21…31, 8, 7 at my Pacers (I was there live for it and he + Jokic both amazing especially in the clutch)…Last yr in 23-24 in 59 games Per100 Murray AVERAGED 33.3, 10.2, 6.5, 2.5stocks +9 on 48/43/85 with Nuggets 61 win pace in games he played vs 46 win pace in 23 games he didn’t play. The last 45-50 games of 23-24 season Murray AVERAGED 22, 7, 4, 2 stocks on 60% TS% with nuggets winning at 60-65 win pace. He has NOT been that since late RS injury right before playoffs (outside of a few good stretches like game 5 vs lakers, game 7 vs wolves or last 5 games before this bad game at Suns where he AVERAGED 24, 6, 5, 3 stocks on 47/39/88 and 10 PPG in 4th with many clutch makes) which is VERY FRUSTRATING, but I won’t believe he can’t get back to that or close to it bc his peak offensively is one of the best guards offensively EVER (he’s the only player ever over 39 game streak in playoffs to AVG 26, 7, 5, 1.5 stocks on 49/41/93 especially with 54/52/95 in 4th averaging 8.2 PPG in 4th to go to 2020 WCF & 2023 title). It’s possible injuries have caught up to him and he’s damaged goods but I won’t personally believe that for a 27yr old unless I see much bigger sample size. Also to those who want him gone in summer you need to be cheering for Jamal too instead of hate watchin him bc he won’t be tradable if he’s not good rest of yr!
I watched that series and I think those stats are skewed because the dude had the luxury of being on the floor with Joker. Check the non joker minutes and you’ll see how he struggles when the attention is on him. Not saying he’s not good but let’s not pretend he’s a great player either.
@ what series? The WCF vs Lakers when Murray AVERAGED an unprecedented 33, 6, 5, 3.3 stocks (only 1.8 TPG) on 53/41/95 and +10 per game?!? Or 2023 NBA finals when Murray AVERAGED 21.4, 10, 6.2 on 45/39/93 (+11 per game) and the 4th player EVER to avg 20+ PPG & 10+ APG in an NBA finals along with MJ LeBron Magic?!? Say what you want about Jamal since start of last playoffs (fair) and his frustrating injury history + slow starts, but I’ve been watching basketball 40yrs including live 1000-1500 games center court row 9/11/13 since 1987-88 and Murray at his best in 2020/23 Playoffs one of the best offensive guards I’ve ever seen!
Hey Swipa, if I hear another racist comment on Jokic, from your side, I will officially start movement to remove you from all podcast about Nugets and to shutdown your own. Cz you become classic black guy against Europianns and more and more you sound like Gilbert Arenas. Go liik Easter eggs to Lebron or Missing 76ers, I won't even say his name. You made your name on Jokic back, and now you have guys to speet on him, I really home that Strahinja and Nemanja read this and meet you somewhere in Denver. You back stabbing racist. @swipacam
I want him to be removed from the podcast. Not because I disagree. But because his takes are inane and he hates Nuggets fans. He mocks and belittles us constantly. I swear people in Colorado are just too nice. Fans in other markets would never put up with this disrespect.
Jokic frustration is ONE BIG BS the dude is getting paid 1mil per week while in Serbia you should work like 60 years 9-5 so he better play the best he knows instead of acting like little princess.
100% agree with Matt. This nonsense about Jamal was being talked about before the season started! A bad 16 game stretch (16 GAMES) of playoffs and Olympics after Jamal's best season of his career had people talking crazy. I know Jokic is all world, but WE DON'T WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT JAMAL MURRAY!!! Let's take a step back and let the man figure it out.
@@astriddececco3005 so all 3 of them were equally as important to you? Jamal could have easily been both Western conference and finals MVP. Bruce and MPJ were not. I get you trying to be glib but you understand my point.
@@letsmakeit110 I hate that argument because you don't really care if he's an All-star. You really don't even care about how much money he makes. You're complaining about the results. They aren't what you want so let's get him out of here. I'm just not down with that.
@@larrydc1972 for $50 million we could add depth, spot up shooting, dribble penetration, AND perimeter defense. Instead we have Jamal. Damn right I want him out of here.
Such a bullshit thumbnail, should Joker Chill? Absolutely not, the rest of this sorry franchise needs to get their shit together.
And QUICKLY
Thumbnail got you though that’s the point
jokic needs to leave,but he wont,too loyal to this bum ass franchise
Matt is a soft and a cope , well said swipa put matt in his place .
Jokic looked less frustrated and the team looked more competent when Facu and Austin was the backcourt. Jokic is pretty fair tbh. He isn’t ever angry at the talent gap. Because he doesn’t believe in it. He’s just trying of playing with guys that don’t know how to be professionals. Now I’d argue he and Malone have enabled Jamal’s unprofessional behavior his entire tenure, but yeah. Jokic is most visibly frustrated when people aren’t where they are supposed to be. When they don’t make the right play. Jokic gave the team 20 plus games of everything he has and that was his grace period. That was his time to give everyone time to catch up. They haven’t. Jokic is right to be pissed. Also, Matt can’t talk about leading by example and then always give Jamal a pass for showing up out of shape and acting like an immature entitled baby.
If Jokic had Jrue Holiday alongside playing with him, then Jokic will have more than 2 championships by now.
Matt is great expert analyzer as Calvin B is GM..
Dode Jokic never play with an all star in his life and after 10 years of DN organization stubbing his prime in the back they reworded him with bunch of new kids (project dynasty) to baby sit along with 4 more years of Jamal and basically killing his chances to win anything in next 4 or 5 years..
One year Denver give Jokic half decent team he won the championship ..In reality on any decent team without acl Jamal 3b surgeries MPJ he would win at list 3 or 4 rings by now..
And Matt (loser week mindset) ask why is Jokic angry lolz ...
Swipa was cookin!
Mat was coping
Also a reminder that Calvin GM Booth traded 3 second round picks to get off Big Gov’s contract that HE gave him
Remember that it was almost certainly a requirement for getting him signed in the first place was a wink wink deal to resign him to a multiyear contract. As a cheap backup he was alright. Obviously overused but that’s on Malone and Pickett not rounding into form.
Ngl, shady stuff happens all the time around the league, GMs have no loyalty. I’m always 100% pro player, but from a GM perspective, there was no reason you were strapped to that wink wink other than reputation. And nearly every gm has a bad one
Swipe is spot on! The other dude is just making up baseless arguments. The whole podcast was a one way traffic.
I agree with swipa. Joker needs experienced talent. Like he had in the 23 championship year.
Matt is great with betting but I think the best thing moving forward for Locked on Nuggets it’s to have Swipa and Ryan as the hosts.
100%
How disrespectful can you be. Just cause you don't agree with what he says? Different viewpoints is what makes this interesting. Swipa just reads stats at you alot of times
Matt is better than Ryan for sure.
@@paulfritsch672 Not about not agreeing with what he says, it's that he's a trollish contrarian 90% of the time.
You are all just spoiled Nuggets Fans. The Nuggets are pretty good and after JMurray has his "Rod Tidwell" come-to-Jesus moment all will be well.
He most definitely should not chill out.
This Matt guy is hilarious. He seems pretty laid-back most of the time. LOL. I hadn’t heard of him before, but apparently, he’s a sports journalist and should know the game well. The way he was talking, though, it sounded like he didn’t know a thing about basketball. I actually thought he was just a guest speaker or something. LOL.
Yeah he's a troll, most of the time
Matt - Jamal has sucked all season long. Even in his “good games” everything comes difficult- watching him dribble 12 seconds off the shot clock trying to get and failing to get separation is like watching someone drown in a swimming pool.
Yes- He has the ability to make very difficult shots and he’s very clutch. He’s a 6th man being payed 50m per year - and I’m tired of pretending he’s not.
There's a reason the team averages like 5 full assists a game more when he's not there.
Exactly
''jok needs to chill'' lmao i would lost my mind if i were jok
If you think Murray is going to get them out of the west...you are taking too much advantage of of Colorado's cannabis laws.
Jokic should stop getting frustrated and demand a trade, there's about 75% of the teams that he'll make an instant favorite to win the championship.
I think that’s a stretch. Favorite to win does a disservice to the well-built teams already out there. And of course any team trading for him will have to actually give something up, if for no others reason to make the contract money work. But yeah obviously he could be doing better if he was more demonstrative on the institutional failures around him.
he should (arguably). he won't
Im happy if he would, do whats best for your career big guy
Idk, teams would have to give up most of their best players for it to be worth it. He might just get stuck in a similar situation somewhere else if he does that
That's highly unlikely however imagine what players you could get. I would never trade him
Swipa’s on the point here.
I mean if we want to talk about Jamal, he was out a year and a half and has always shown up out of shape and been terrible to start the season. I mean really, Jamal Murray has been amazing two playoff runs. That’s kind of it?
That's entirely it. His regular seasons could have been duplicated by a crapload of other shooting guards (SG because I still don't consider him a real PG) in the league....with a lot probably playing more games as he's injury prone. Also, I'm thinking he's likely one of the reasons the team seems disjointed and players seem unhappy....he seems like a grade A d-bag a lot of the time and when he's not "on", he plays a style of basketball that basically leaves the other 4 players on the court watching him dribble the air out of the ball, take a crappy shot or lob them a grenade to have to launch with a second or so left on the clock.
@@KClouisvilleI totally agree! Watching him play is not fun, so painful to watch.
Our staring 5 are all team players expect Jamal and I’m tired of it😢
Can Swipa just host this show? He is right and he is an actual Nuggets fan. Matt is wrong and he has nothing but contempt for Nuggets fans. Locked On Nuggets should be a show for Nuggets fans. Can we have a host who doesn't openly mock and belittle us on every episode? Please get rid of Matt. He has nothing to offer.
Matt has completely lost his mind
Should Joker chill out????? NO ABSOLUTELY NOT. This team had been nothing but failers all season why Jokics is having the best season of any career. Its crazy to me. SMFH
I will call out matt for this
Gauging Murray after like 5 games and saying he may do the same is insane
Lou will said it Murray has always been this way
He is right Murray is streaky because his main weapon is his jumpshots
He has no other way of beating you that's what makes him inconsistent
As a player if you can't makes shots closer to the rim you are making tough shots and those shots are bound to be inconsistent
Joker is consistent because he beats you in a variety of ways
Murray can't
He is just that way
you don't owe anything to Denver, you brought them the title and that's it, go brother Jokic, get a few more titles.
Hasn't Jokic earned the right to vent some frustration? Yes, Denver has one championship, but Jokic has won three-arguably four-MVPs in the last four years. Why shouldn’t he demand the same level of effort from his teammates that he gives every game? The current Nuggets team is highly inconsistent, and do we really want to see another season of Jokic’s prime go to waste? I certainly don’t. I’d like to see Jokic be more vocal instead of quietly leading by example. The more he vents, the more it shows how much he cares about the game.
I have no idea what Matt is on about. How is Jokic supposed to floor raise a bunch of bums? This team is simply bereft of championship level talent. No all-time great player would make this garbage work
Murray’s health and slow starts is an issue FOR SURE, but I promise you a “bum” could never AVERAGE 26, 7, 5, 1.5 stocks on 49/42/93 in b2b playoffs on the way to WCF & TITLE (39 game sample) including 28.3, 6.4, 5.2, 2.4 stocks on elite splits (64% TS%) in 2 CONFERENCE FINALS and joined LeBron 2X, Magic 2X, MJ 1X as the only players EVER to avg 20+ & 10+ APG in the FINALS.
A “bum” doesn’t become 5th player EVER to have a 30 point triple double in finals game on team that won title (joining LeBron Jokic Curry James Worthy all 1st ballot HOF).
Murray has the 8th best Playoffs Points per 100 possessions (minimum 65 games he’s played and 52.6% eFG% he has). Here’s the Top12 (since 74 playoffs as that’s when per 100 possessions goes back to or else Kareem would be ahead of him):
Jokic 37.2
Durant 36.8
LeBron 36.7
Giannis 36.6
Curry 35.8
Shaq 34.7
Hakeem 33.7
Jamal Murray 32.0
Kareem 31.1
Kawhi 30.8
Reggie Miller 30.5
Charles Barkley 30.0
That’s the top12 Points per 100 possessions since 1974 playoffs for players to play at least 65 games and 52.6% eFG%!
All Top1-50 players of all time & Jamal Murray.
I get being frustrated, but don’t ignore what he’s done at his peak either. Even last year 23-24 RS he was 14th in OBPM, 19th in BPM, & 19th in VORP per game with some amazing games in winter/spring 2024 @ Celtics win 35, 8, 6 on 15-21…31, 8, 7 at my Pacers (I was there live for it and he + Jokic both amazing especially in the clutch)…
The Nuggets are fine. No trade makes sense. Nuggets fans are simply spoiled now. Murray is hurt. Murray is a slow starter. Murray just got his big extension and is not puuting forth his best effort. All those things will change after Murray has his "Rod Tidwell" come-to-Jesus moment and finds his spark again. This team is pretty good and will make to the Western Conference Finals at the minimum.
Two things: NBA players are spoiled with long contracts and no strings attached, since apparently they have free reign, and legalization of weed made that habit more prevalent in professional sports and you see it in lack of motivation and drive. The NBA maybe won't die but it surely looks like it slowly is
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13:19 you are very wrong - only Murray doesn't play the right way for most of the time . Other guts make mistakes but are trying to play the right way. When Jamal is in , everyone feeds of his selfishness
Yes Matt! We know how much you hate Jokic and use every opportunity to shit on him. I dont understand how did u get this job? You don't like Nuggets. You have never said anything constructive about Nuggets and you always find a reason why nothing can be ever done. I cant listen to your tripes and whataboutery any more.
hes the hardest guy ever to listen to
He’s the only reporter in the denver media that isn’t an avid fan of the team. There has to be a dissenting voice in the media whether its right or not.
lmao Matt's going to act so surprised when Jokic ask's for a trade.
This is a legit issue we need to consider
Yeah, I feel prognosticating on a player’s behavior when we don’t really know any of them seems a recipe for disappointment. I remember all the flowers KD got in the wake of Lebrons Decision for resigning with OKC, when all he did was sign the rookie extension that every player including LeBron did only to then have KD leave the next time around.
lol Jokic is not going to ask for a trade
Jokic may decide to stay home in Serbia one day but he's not uprooting his family to yet another city by choice
higher chance he just retires
According to Matt AG is a point guard. All is good then.
Denver brought in the last player via trade 3 years ago, and that is Gordon. If you know of another team in NBA history that hasn't traded anything for three years, tell me. Jokic is not frustrated because of not trading players, but because they really don't care what will happen on the field, just to get rid of the ball as soon as possible by pushing it into Jokic's hands. The product of such passes by Brown, MPJ and Julian prompted several frustrated gesticulations on the court from the Jokic stand. If you don't have anything smart to talk about on your podcasts, turn them off, thus creating unnecessary drama around player(Joker) who are not for media manipulation at any level. Maybe you should talk about the upcoming games and how Detroit won the Suns, Lakers, Kings in the last 3 away games.
Why does nobody mention this? Calvin Booth tied Jokic's 4th MVP season to whether 22 year old Peyton Watson and Julian Strawther and 23 year old Christian Braun are ready to play key roles as 5th-8th man on a championship team! It's just beyond stupid! Boston goes out to get Jrue Holiday, Porzingis and Derrick White. OKC gets Alex Caruso and Isiah Hartenstein. Denver relies on young guys who are not ready! Nuggets are simply missing key veterans who helped them win a title, and replaced them with rookies. They need playmakers who can shoot! They lack versatility! Why is it that if Jamal Murray doesn't have a good game they can't beat the worst teams in the NBA!
Run Jokic run from nuggets
Swipa 💯
Matt, you can’t simultaneously tell people not to comment their opinions and then tell them you want them to keep doing it. Derision doesn’t foster engagement.
27:58 You gotta be kidding me, Matt! I don't mind that you took a moment to think it through, but then what you come up with is: _"it depends how those resources are allocated"?_
Btw, that question was a more polite way of asking: _"Yes or no, Matt, are you being insane right now?"_ And Matt answered: yes!
I laughed out loud at that based on the fact that the money they DID have was allocated to Reggie (who they dumped), Saric who is unplayable and Zeke 🤣🤣🤣
Where is Ryan bro. Agreeing all the time is not great, but disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing is then worst thing you could do. Ryan be making sense at least
Nuggets should wait to make a trade. Let this season ride out and re-evaluate next year when you have more options (Jamal, AG, and MPJ would all be tradeable) and go from there. I don’t think that anything available right now would fix the nuggets enough to make a title run.
The only reason we should wait is so we can get a different GM to take over the franchise.
I agree. Unfortunately nothing can be done this year to make a real difference. Fire Calvin Booth and wait till next year to build a real roster around Jokic. Another lost year of Jokic’s prime unfortunately.
The fans should storm into GM's office and kick him out.
Net rating only tells so much Matt. Eye test matters here too. I feel like he's a contrarian for contrarian sake.
"I'm sorry the NBA is hard" soffffft wtf was that
Matt, you don't deserve Jokic if you seriously feel like Jok needs to chill out. Props to you Swipa, keep doing what you are doing with same level of energy!
Chill?? Dont act like yall never seen the last dance?? Cmon man 🤦♂️
Not sure guys, I’d love to have both MPJ and Zach on the team. Zach + Torrey Craig sounds interesting. Joker needs good shooters and ball handlers around him. Daaron Fox is awesome too.
If they didnt extend Murray and could trade Murray and could get Fox that wouldve Been the dream
w swipa
Matt finished strong he is so right about tough veterans
Did no one learn from Nene... very good player, but lacks aggression? MPJ is the same way. He may make aggressive plays. He might even have a great quarter, but there is no consistency That said. I'm much further out on Jamal than MPJ, but either way, one of those contracts needs to become 2 solid rotation players that don't need 3 years of development.
Swipa💯🙌
Swipa does this out of love (and for a paycheck). Matt Moore does this only for a paycheck - for him, it does not matter whether its the Nuggets or the Pistons or the Suns. Thats why he also can't really criticize anyone with any power, or he's out of the game.
Can't compare to Hakeem. Back then there were totally different cap spaces, trade rules Etc.
Bruh. Don’t be one of those clickbait RUclipsrs. I hate how solid people like you use such tactics to get views. That title is utter bs
As someone who lives in the Denver mountains I’d love jokic to request a trade so I don’t have to hear dumb takes like the one Matt gave us tonight. We don’t deserve big honey
Thank god for Swipa, he gets it
The problem with the Nuggets is simple. They are relying on 22 year old players like Julian Strawther, Peyton Watson, Hunter Tyson and 23 year old Christian Braun to be the 5-8 players on a Championship roster. The only bench veteran in the 8 man rotation is Russell Westbrook and he's inconsistent
I don’t think trading porter is the issue, he’s not the issue. . Defense is the issue.
No top 10 all time player has done more with less than Jokic! BTW: Nuggets are on pace to win 46 games, which last year would have beaten out the Warriors for 10th place and Last Place in the play-in, if they won the tie-breaker with the Warriors and Kings (also 46). This with a player who is a top 10 all-time Hall of Famer, having probably the best season of his career! And tonight, they gave up 149 points to the Cavs while Joker put up 27, 14 and 13 on 12 of 19 shooting. And he's averaging 30, 12 and 9.5 on 57%-50% from 3 shooting on the season! This is just beyond idiotic. He's having a better individual career than Magic and Bird and Moses Malone and Hakeem, and Shaq, and Steph, none of whom ever won 4 MVPs, and in a category with Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Michael and LeBron (guys who won at least 4 MVPs)! But, only 1 championship! Where is Joker's Magic and James Worthy? Where is his Scotty Pippin? Where is his D-Wade and Chris Bosh? Where is his Tony Parker and Manu?
Matt, either Jokic is the far best player ever
Or he deserves the same help as jordan and lebron and kobe got
Also the celtics are not the warriors but they are closer than people wanna admit, and he is in a tougher west vs the thunder
Bruce Brown, that is all Nuggwts need.
Guys don't be mad at Matt he's just upset that soon he will not be able to use " They/Them " as his pronounce. On the serious note now, this bozo is a Jokic hater, and he also hates Nuggets fans for whatever reason. Also there is a clear bias revolving around Murray in this organization and Matt is on that train too. If you have a functioning brain you will see that. On the other hand Swipa is a true fan and hat's off to him.
And our back courts defence is atrocious.
Quit the lavine chatter. It's pointless. Bulls are not taking zekes 4 year contract. That's the only way besides saric and they aren't taking him either. Plus swipe thinks they are gonna get another player from the bulls.lol you already can't stack up the money for zach. Ridiculous...for guys who talk basketball for a living this is just nonsense
Nuggets fans have it all backwards. Murray not being able to handle on ball pressure doesn’t mean you need secondary ball handling. It means you need a ball handler that can handle on ball pressure.
What makes the Celtics and okc good is not that they can all dribble and shoot or whatever. They’re good because most or all of them can defend on the perimeter.
We all know that jokic can be attacked in the pick n roll. Who on the nuggets roster can protect jokic? Kcp was the one who did that, while also being able to space the floor.
The nuggets need 3nd and I bet you that if you had a kcp type left and replaced Murray with a 3nd the nuggets wouldn’t have any problems.
The new CBA is terrible. Theres no reason they should have had to let Caldwell Pope walk. It’s not possible to build continuity that way. And Murray is the king of inconsistency-he had a couple runs but he’s always been an injury ridden player. Murray can shot make but Jokic needs a guy. Daron Fox would be nice. Won’t happen but that’s the kind of player Jokic would benefit from having.
Swipa be on fire.
His teammates just dont want it.
Gordon a shooter lol
Rip Nahgets
Before Jamal Murray extension they had a chance to get better at PG. But the worst front office in NBA history is wasting the best year's of the best basketball player in the world. Celtics or Sixers would do something in this situation. Just listen to the Charlse Barkley and Shaq. Jokic has every right to do whatever he wants. He won a 70 years old franchise a championship and put them on a NBA map. Nuggets are the worst team in the NBA without Jokic. New cba is a bulls..t. Lavine is not a upgrade over MPJ
Bs matt .. like Jokić is just another... U full of bs matt... My god 🤣
Jamal is such a bum man... It's wonderful to watch this ongoing lol 😆🫠
Matt quit treating Murray with kids gloves. Please realize he is the problem
Matt makes a lot of sense here, except the Chargers thing in the ad read, likely going but haven't clinched yet
What about clarkson, filipowski and sensabaugh for naji, Saric, and Holmes. Or Pickett and Tyson instead of Holmes
Jokic should demand a trade to leave this sorry ass franchise who didn't do shit to help him, he gave denver everything that they could never imagine and now its time to leave
Great episode you two! Much love
wow! what a great awesome show gents! Matt is great analyst and real smart, but Sir Swipa destroyed and absolutely cooked! its very easy to find things to blame 15 when you do not even want him to win any of it, give us a real allstar caliber player and see what happens, we'll wait, we waited this lomg and still got a chip despite horrible fo over the years... also, fire Booth! idc, just get his behind out of this mess that he already created
nuggets will look to move on from murray at the end of the season ..
Kuzma + Valanciunas for MPJ
Swipa man can you do this without this weak little guy?
If Jokic can get it done without another all star level player *twice* then he is unquestionably the greatest player ever. If you think he’s that good? Fine. I’m not sure he’s *that* good.
I think he can do it. All he needs is a decent perimeter shooter on his team, a center in AG and the rest can be role players that can defend.
Matt! Please leave the channel to Cam and Ryan! You suck at this!
There are many podcasts featuring homer fans. I prefer hosts who do not view the team with rose-colored glasses all the time.
Matt, I hope you had a great weekend. I don't get the hate, besides you say things people don't want to hear. Oh wait they openly say that their lil echo chambers are breaking because of you...😂
Matt my guy I agree with you but you gotta argue these points better. Talk about the defensive limitations of that backcourt. Having to run 3 guards or Watson becoming a starter. Talk about the rebounding and size miss matches that MPJ gives us. Talk about who is going to replace Zeke's roster spot etc.
Should u guys have podcast chill out how when every night give triple double everyone play to win stupid thumbnail
Stop deflecting arguments admit points are wrong
It’s going to be LaVine time very soon. That’s my hunch.
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I understand Nuggets/Jokic fans (I’m a Jokic LeBron MJ Hakeem Bird Isiah Wemby fan and pops pacers diehard season ticket holder since 87-88 Reggie Miller rookie year) being frustrated with his teammates health (Murray & MPJ).
Murray’s health and slow starts is an issue FOR SURE, but I promise you a “bum” could never AVERAGE 26, 7, 5, 1.5 stocks on 49/42/93 in b2b playoffs on the way to WCF & TITLE (39 game sample) including 28.3, 6.4, 5.2, 2.4 stocks on elite splits (64% TS%) in 2 CONFERENCE FINALS and joined LeBron 2X, Magic 2X, MJ 1X as the only players EVER to avg 20+ & 10+ APG in the FINALS.
A “bum” doesn’t become 5th player EVER to have a 30 point triple double in finals game on team that won title (joining LeBron Jokic Curry James Worthy all 1st ballot HOF).
Murray has the 8th best Playoffs Points per 100 possessions (minimum 65 games he’s played and 52.6% eFG% he has). Here’s the Top12 (since 1974 playoffs as that’s when per 100 possessions goes back to or else Kareem would be ahead of him):
Jokic 37.2
Durant 36.8
LeBron 36.7
Giannis 36.6
Curry 35.8
Shaq 34.7
Hakeem 33.7
Jamal Murray 32.0
Kareem 31.1
Kawhi 30.8
Reggie Miller 30.5
Charles Barkley 30.0
That’s the top12 Points per 100 since 74 PLAYOFFS for guys to play 65+ games & 52.6% eFG%!
All Top1-50 players of all time & Jamal Murray.
I get being frustrated, but don’t ignore what he’s done at his peak either. Even last year 23-24 RS he was 14th in OBPM, 19th in BPM, & 19th in VORP per game with some amazing games in winter/spring 2024 @ Celtics win 35, 8, 6 on 15-21…31, 8, 7 at my Pacers (I was there live for it and he + Jokic both amazing especially in the clutch)…Last yr in 23-24 in 59 games Per100 Murray AVERAGED 33.3, 10.2, 6.5, 2.5stocks +9 on 48/43/85 with Nuggets 61 win pace in games he played vs 46 win pace in 23 games he didn’t play.
The last 45-50 games of 23-24 season Murray AVERAGED 22, 7, 4, 2 stocks on 60% TS% with nuggets winning at 60-65 win pace.
He has NOT been that since late RS injury right before playoffs (outside of a few good stretches like game 5 vs lakers, game 7 vs wolves or last 5 games before this bad game at Suns where he AVERAGED 24, 6, 5, 3 stocks on 47/39/88 and 10 PPG in 4th with many clutch makes) which is VERY FRUSTRATING, but I won’t believe he can’t get back to that or close to it bc his peak offensively is one of the best guards offensively EVER (he’s the only player ever over 39 game streak in playoffs to AVG 26, 7, 5, 1.5 stocks on 49/41/93 especially with 54/52/95 in 4th averaging 8.2 PPG in 4th to go to 2020 WCF & 2023 title).
It’s possible injuries have caught up to him and he’s damaged goods but I won’t personally believe that for a 27yr old unless I see much bigger sample size.
Also to those who want him gone in summer you need to be cheering for Jamal too instead of hate watchin him bc he won’t be tradable if he’s not good rest of yr!
I watched that series and I think those stats are skewed because the dude had the luxury of being on the floor with Joker. Check the non joker minutes and you’ll see how he struggles when the attention is on him. Not saying he’s not good but let’s not pretend he’s a great player either.
@ what series?
The WCF vs Lakers when Murray AVERAGED an unprecedented 33, 6, 5, 3.3 stocks (only 1.8 TPG) on 53/41/95 and +10 per game?!?
Or 2023 NBA finals when Murray AVERAGED
21.4, 10, 6.2 on 45/39/93 (+11 per game) and the 4th player EVER to avg 20+ PPG & 10+ APG in an NBA finals along with MJ LeBron Magic?!?
Say what you want about Jamal since start of last playoffs (fair) and his frustrating injury history + slow starts, but I’ve been watching basketball 40yrs including live 1000-1500 games center court row 9/11/13 since 1987-88 and Murray at his best in 2020/23 Playoffs one of the best offensive guards I’ve ever seen!
Locked do Nuggets is the most stupid thing ever.
matt sorry bro i'm done with this podcast your takes are crazy af
Hey Swipa, if I hear another racist comment on Jokic, from your side, I will officially start movement to remove you from all podcast about Nugets and to shutdown your own.
Cz you become classic black guy against Europianns and more and more you sound like Gilbert Arenas. Go liik Easter eggs to Lebron or Missing 76ers, I won't even say his name. You made your name on Jokic back, and now you have guys to speet on him, I really home that Strahinja and Nemanja read this and meet you somewhere in Denver. You back stabbing racist. @swipacam
"HE NEEDED BILL CARTWRIGHT!" Spit out my drink
Matt is willingly playing a "heel". He has to be smart to know that his opinions are wrong.
Matt's right on about this... Jamal has always been a question going into the playoffs...
2 of the 3 he has been a stud!
Guys you can disagree with Matt and also not ask for him to be removed from the podcast lol
I want him to be removed from the podcast. Not because I disagree. But because his takes are inane and he hates Nuggets fans. He mocks and belittles us constantly. I swear people in Colorado are just too nice. Fans in other markets would never put up with this disrespect.
I sick of seeing joker bitching at the ref. He is almost as bad as Luka.
dwight howard is a better comparison, because he does get hacked a lot. its like they expect you to flop for your calls nowadays.
Jokic frustration is ONE BIG BS the dude is getting paid 1mil per week while in Serbia you should work like 60 years 9-5 so he better play the best he knows instead of acting like little princess.
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100% agree with Matt. This nonsense about Jamal was being talked about before the season started! A bad 16 game stretch (16 GAMES) of playoffs and Olympics after Jamal's best season of his career had people talking crazy. I know Jokic is all world, but WE DON'T WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT JAMAL MURRAY!!! Let's take a step back and let the man figure it out.
We wouldn't have won a championship without MPJ or Bruce Brown; so what is your point?
for 20 million sure he can have a rough patch but max guys need to be all stars at least.
@@astriddececco3005 so all 3 of them were equally as important to you? Jamal could have easily been both Western conference and finals MVP. Bruce and MPJ were not. I get you trying to be glib but you understand my point.
@@letsmakeit110 I hate that argument because you don't really care if he's an All-star. You really don't even care about how much money he makes. You're complaining about the results. They aren't what you want so let's get him out of here. I'm just not down with that.
@@larrydc1972 for $50 million we could add depth, spot up shooting, dribble penetration, AND perimeter defense. Instead we have Jamal. Damn right I want him out of here.