Kenny is wrong. Kawhi doesn’t really guard the best player anymore. That’s because he’s shouldering the offense. Same could be said for a lot of star players.
Yeah Kawhi shouldn't have been in the all NBA defense team this year. It's just all narrative at this point that he plays great defense anymore. Wayoff P guards the other team's best players much more often.
@@dwyanelee2203 As much as Paul George choked the series, he is still an amazing defensive talent. Kawhi is still a great defender too, but not as good as he used to be. Paul George is a better defender at this point in their careers but Kawhi is more consistent offensive player.
Kenny and Shaq don’t realize that Charles never winning a chip actually gives him great perspective as an analyst. His experience in losing helps him to know what breaks down in a team’s loss
This is interesting... The Lakers in the last 2 series were up 3-1 The Nuggets in the last 2 series was down 1-3 Now for the 3rd series in a row, they BOTH find themselves in the same position. So if history decides to repeat itself again, it's either going to be Lakers in 5 or Nuggets in 7.
Chucks right, joker has to battle Howard in the post, guard AD on the outside, he has generate offense with his assist and score on top of that, AD has bron, all he has to focus on is scoring.
shyguymuzik In some possessions he did, but what he meant was that ad has lebron to generate the offense and be the majority playmaker on the team just like jokic
@@reisehnhicks1705 Point is Jokic needs help and the Nuggets do have an answer, he's BolBol their 7'2" player. Jokic can't focus on offensive when facing 3 rotating bigs meanwhile they stay out of foul trouble and he get 5 fouls and has to sit.
Kenny & Shaq were being biased this time. Deep down they both knew that Chuck was right, which is why they won't let him speak. Kenny & Shaq don't want the players today to be greater than the players during their era, so they act like today's NBA is soft. Chuck himself admitted that he did not have to defend Karl Malone all the time. I'm sure Chuck won't admit that today's players are better either, but at least he was honest enough to not let his bias cloud his opinion this time.
Chuck is right. Jokic does EVERYTHING for that team. More than Kawhi does for his team. Plus I think Howard made Joker work really hard for everything, so he got tired
The first half part of your statement I agree with. The Kawhi part is wrong. Kawhi led the clippers in all 5 categories in the playoffs; points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals.
Yeah clearly murray isnt shouldering any offensive load... the guy is balling scoring on everyone and upping his playmaking yet Jokic is doing everything alone offensively ? Foh man. Bad reffed game stole us from an acceptable result win or lose it was a terrible game becuz of refs
Very well said i been sweating whole time not gonna be happy until lakers finish them denver can never be counted out lebron and ad gonna show up its the supporting cast that worry me sometimes imagine giannis on denver
@Roger Edgerton all those players he mentioned are the best players for their teams and Kawhi wasn't guarding them all the time. You mentioning curry, klay and lebron and saying they're better means nothing.
I could totally understand chuck's point but i think he just wasn't able to articulate it in the moment. Also it helps when you got kenny and shaq hammering down on you. Lets not compare jokic to the greats but lets talk about the matchups in this series. Jokic is always facing a fresh defensive center of the highest caliber (whether it be AD or Dwight and even Javale whose not on the same level but always brings the energy for the minutes he is on the floor) Jokic has to play more minutes than any of the guys guarding him and AD is relatively fresher when Jokic has to defend him. So he has to work way harder to get himself going on the offensive end and at the same time work hard to stop a much fresher AD. And on top of this he has to stop all these guys from rebounding the basketball so chuck does have a point. Whether he has to overcome this to become a "great" or a champion is a different question
They're switching and hitting the post off the switch like the olden days which means jokic isnt in the mix and doesn't have to worry about being out rebounded by a shorter opponent and this happens a majority of possessions. There's not really much of a reason for his defender to matter as the support cast has shown their ability to knock down in and out 3s. You don't have to score the ball to still be aggressive and productive. You can watch all the greats when they were tired or injured, their role always changes to fit what's needed to secure the win. Jokic teammates have shown a high percentage in perimeter set shooting and they scored a few times from it but he kind of stopped it. I don't know if being tired is an excuse considering they kept letting teams get 3-1 leads but regardless there's more ways to be productive without carrying the scoring load.
Naw bro Jokic is out of shape hes too gassed by AD Dwight and Lakers transition. You didnt see it last series clippers had short Montrez and a slow average center in Zubac
asking a player to be the best defender, rebounder, run the offense and score 25 pts a game is allot .....Denver needs another big man that can pick up the slack on that side of the court.
U r so wrong. If you’re making it a point he has to do a lot and he cant handle it, guess what, that means he isnt that great. Greats guard greats. There are countless examples of it. Kobe played great offense and guarded the best players. Kawhi guarded Giannis. Jordan always wanted the other team’s best player
...and only guarded Murray in short stretches. He hasn't been a lockdown defender since the Spurs. Doc has enabled Kawhi and PG to take it easy on the defensive end all season long. Even last year, Kawhi wasn't guarding the opponent's best player for entire games and taking on that assignment soley. Ever since his offensive game caught up to his defense, he hasn't been asked to put as much effort into the defensive end because he has to carry so much of the scoring load now. It also looks like that knee problem has slowed him down a little bit. Still a beast, I'm just pointing out Kenny's incorrect take.
Jordan is just untouchable and thats wrong. His the Greatest of his era. But he would be an average player in todays league Jamal Murray joined MJ: only players to record 40+ pts, 5+ reb, 5+ ast in 3 straight playoff games. Luka also getting MJ numbers in only 2 years Giannis also getting Shaq numbers Steph breaking 3pt records Jordan surely cant survive in this league when you already have young players doing what he was doing
@@austinclubb2093 Yes and no. Scottie was a SF and guarded the best player from 1-3 sometimes smaller 4's. Magic was a PG, but wasn't guarding most PG's because of his size.
MyNoseisDirty When they’re chatting, not while they’re disagreeing on basketball. Chuck might be goofy, but he has always been respectful of other’s opinion. Notice that he is the one saying that they can actually disagree.
Pippen's defensive skill is what got him in the top 50 players of all time list. Mike was athletic enough to lock up guards... except Magic. Pip had to take him in that series. The entire Bulls team was all about defense. Some say the defense captain was Mike, but I honestly think Pip was the guy. Offense was obviously all MJ.
I would say Jordan is as good as Pippen if not better on defense. Pippen had to be their main defensive guy just because Jordan has to be their main offensive guy.
Chuck owned this situation and handled that debate like a pro. Can’t stand when Kenny and Shaq belittle and don’t even listen to Chuck’s statements, especially when they’re wrong.
Shaq & Kenny don't want today's players to be better than players in their era. That is why they act like today's players are soft. But they both know Chuck was right, which is exactly why they wouldn't let him speak.
2nd half guards are cooking they need more perimeter defense I think. Howard getting trouble switching and guarding slashing players. and jokic is cold in 4th.
King L probably to save his play for this moment right here . They need every bit of stamina and a rested body to put on jokic it’s smart . Scared people but smart to tire him out . 🤷🏾♂️
Dwight howard make all the difference in this match, first he out rebound everybody from the beginning, inspired his teammates to fight for rebound all the way. And he singlehandedly stopped nikola jokic , who didn't make any impact because of dwight defense.
@Isaac Mulka he is not a go to guy. Thats pretty much it. They will not set up plays for him like when he is in Orlando. The game has changed and dwight cant even post up or have good footwork. All he need to do is hustle and make his presence felt.
@@kencabuso4243 he doesn't have to be a go to guy but there were plays like when Dwight had jokic under the rim, AD stared at him and passed it to LeBron for a deep 3. That's just bad basketball
@@sportscommenter2680 thanks for this. Kinda agreed but again, if you are not the priority guy and it is the conference finals superstars have their pride.
I love this show, but this was easily the most awkward/hardest one to watch. My god. The way they wouldnt let chuck explain his point RE the best players on both ends. You can't continually shoot down someones point if you're not letting them even explain it. And Chuck was right.
nah he wasn’t in my opinion. if your a great player it’s your responsibility to guard the best player and still control the offense on the other end. i don’t think there is any excuse for jokic.
@@shelovesmar that's fair, I agree with chuck here and it's OK to disagree, no issue with that at all. But in this segment it felt like they subconsciously wanted to gang up on him and not let him talk, which was petty.
Its not a case...he making excuses. Like Kenny say your going guard the best players in the semi finals. The best players happen to be Bron and AD. Jokers dealing with a team that has height and athleticism at the center position which he didn't face vs the clips and jazz.
I think chuck is trying to say that yes Jokic is a great player, but he literally does EVERYTHING for his team. Yes some great players have guarded the best player on the other team, but Jokic has to Guard AD, Facilitate to his team, score, and crash the boards. It’s a sound argument.
True. Same for Lebron, Luka Doncic, Donovan Mitchel, Devin Booker, Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, etc. The best offensive player rarely guards the best player on the other team.
k'naan Man no he wasn’t bro giannis was gettin guarded by like 4 raptors players, he would’ve easily scored on kawhi most of the games if it was just kawhi on him
@@jleww8959 he does but they call those fouls, but when they foul him they don't call it in many cases, that is a big difference. he barely touch any of them they call, they keep beating him while he's doing his foot work and no call. Or when someone literally grab his hand so he can't jump or move and they call foul on him when he try to take his arm out
he doesnt know how to explain his thought, we have seen joker burn out in the playoffs before it happens every time, its not an excuse he just doesnt have the skill to keep playing hail mary shots from mid range
Rite...kenny is top5 player ever in his mind when he's commentating lol. It's great to have confidence thas why he made da NBA but he has a habit of comparing his career nd role on teams to superstars lol he does dis constantly
Total Foul calls for both teams in this series: Calls on Lakers: 109 Calls on DEN: 97 Technicals On LAL: 4 On Den: 1 Free throw attempts LAL: 113 Den: 113 Kawhi wanted no smoke from Luka that entire series we all saw that. He doesnt guard the best player like he used to because he has to carry them on offense... everyone knows that.... Don't let them distract you from the fact that Joker is getting WORKED by an old Howard. Completely took him out of TWO games this series.... Murry is going to be a superstar. Kid has heart and is a beast. The league is in good hands with these young bloods
The leagues in terrible corrupt hands that’s never gonna change I mean the nuggets have NEVER MOVED UP IN THE DRAFT LOTTERY we’ve been in the lottery 14 times and haven’t moved up a single spot in any of the 14 years if that’s not rigged i don’t know what is
@@user-cf8gr9xx6c god bless them not being scared to take a kid with injury history! MPJ had back surgery that's why he slipped to you guys and bol bol had foot surgery or he would have went higher. Smart GM all players drafted and even plumlee came back after leaving so obviously they have GREAT management. I like their team alot.
Bruh my fingers are getting tired of having to say this over and over and over again SMH here’s a stat stat guy... Lakers had 32 Ft by half in the first alone.. 24 in the 2qtr!! Then the calls even out on garbage time when Lakers were blowing Denver out.. stats don’t tell the whole story my guy 😂😂😂😂 here’s another stat Bron and AD combined for 24 attempts tonight compared to the Nuggets 23 attempts 😂😂😂
jeah BUT !!! jokic and murrey get out of game in game 1 because of refs jokic was out of game in game 4 and lbj never get more than 3 fouls per game something is stinking . FIXED !!!!
Kenny with the: "Jordan was guarding the best player" Yea fo sure with his 6'6 he was guarding Hakeem, Karl Malone, Shaq and those other giants who dominated nba back then
Plus in his own 90s version a certain top 25 all-time and greatest perimeter defender ever Scottie Pippen didn't exist. He missed him in his Bulls matchups when he was peeking from Hakeem's back.
The best guards during Jordan's time were non-scorers like Stockton, IT, Gary Payton etc. Miller, Drexler, Mullin, etc. were great, but they were never elite. Who among them were as big or athletic as Jordan, such that they could give him a hard time?
By the look on Murray's face you can tell he is mentally tired just the fact being down 3-1 for the third time's and you tell he knows this is going extra difficult to overcome.
Funny you should make that comment. The Lakers have a way of just wearing out the other teams. It happened in the Portland & Houston series. You could see the other team's players have this look on their face like "I'm done". Nuggets are still fighting, but I think you are right exhaustion is setting in.
The nuggets are tired at this point. Coming back from 3-1 deficit twice in previous rounds, we can just appreciate what they have accomplished. Nobody saw them at this stage in the playoffs
Roger S Lakers are hella fast. Teams rarely get a break when they score bc the Lakers push immediately and with Rondo, Bron and AD you have to get back or you just gave up easy buckets.
Am i the only one who noticed the locker room convo? Coach said “thanks lebron & ad . Cool that everybody else showed up.. lets do it again” 😂 like what
What chuck is trying to say is that Jokic is first of all a Center ,he has to rebound move the ball and create for his teammates, no other center did that, whith his height and weight is very difficult to have the same energy, that's my interpretation anyway ,have a blessed day everyone
@@anjr9915 if you listen to Shaq what he is saying i get it. But sorry shaq while being a laker even in Orlando did not have to bring the ball up the court or for that matter made the passes jokic does. Now don't get me wrong Shaq was a different beast on his own, dominated through sheer power. Jokic has to pass, bring the ball up the floor at times, guard Davis (not all the time tho) and deal on offense with dewight, Davis and Javal if needed. So yea i understand men can get tired...
Nah not this time. Once you get Jokic into foul trouble it’s over. At this point the Lakers are gonna play chess with them, and that’s their best bet. I honestly thought the Lakers could’ve lost that game last night. Every shot was needed.
You do a flyby in a scramble or it ll be impossible to contest if u do a shuffle step on close out. Pick your poison. Sometimes the pump fake will throw a shooter’s rhythm off
JetFlyer62901 well. It Depends on if you watched the game or the highlights. If you watched this here, Chuck already helped you in the last mins. If you watched the game you should already know.
DMbabeful Doesn't really answer my question. Are you trying to say that the Nuggets got robbed, because of those foul calls against them late in the game?
@@getbread33 MJ and Hakeem never met in the postseason, so the point is moot. But even if they did, MJ would be guarding Hakeem as much as Hakeem would be guarding MJ. It goes both ways. Chuck's making excuses for Jokic having to guard AD when AD is out there guarding Jokic too.
@@redskullz1249 Ummm sweetie you're wrong! MJ would NOT guard The Dream unless it was a switch it. They play two different positions so that's false. It doesn't matter if they didn't meet in the finals, they still played each other. And Jordan was guarding Drexler. Which was the BEST player at the guard position on the rockets team. So stop! Please learn the game of basketball before you comment. And Chuck isn't making excuses...he's telling the truth..Ad is barley guarding the Joker, that's why they have Howard out there.. so again stop!
@@getbread33 Lol "sweetie", you missed the point, which is that Jordan guarded Hakeem about as much as Hakeem guarded Jordan, which was not much since they played different positions, obviously. Every player guards the guy he's matched up with, so why does Jokic get excuses because he has to guard AD when AD doesn't need the excuses when he has to guard Jokic? Why didn't Hakeem and Robinson get excuses when they were matched up against each other? Or Shaq and the entire Western Conference?
@@redskullz1249 But there really wasn't a point sweetie lol. But I get what you're saying. So, On the Spurs team you had Duncan and Robinson. On the Rockets you had Thorpe and Olajuwon. So each position was taken care of. They did not guard each other every possession, BUT, they had another big man next to them to help. That's basically what Barkley is saying. There is not another big man on the nuggets to help the Joker with all the other Big men on the Lakers. Even with Shaq, he had Tree Rollins lol. I mean tree wasn't the best but it helped. Playing next to Shaq helped shaq not to have to defend the top center all night long. Thats how I took what Barkley was trying to say. Millsap is not the guy for that. But Malone can start Pumlee or heck even BOL BOL. I mean they aren't the best ...but it will help combat fouls and both with help hold down that block a little more.
i agree with chuck, Jokic is got to be tired, i mean who wouldnt? Passing, Shooting, Blocking, and rebounding against the tallest team left on the buble... i mean we could bring any great of the past and at this point after 18 games practically without rest they would be tired aswell, but as a laker fan i still am confident that jokic will bring his best next game... is gonna be a tough one im sure
Kenny: Jokic can’t be tired. Also Kenny: “...because I’m playing with great players I know I will get 5 great shots... when I was Sacramento I was getting 20 shots but they were the hardest 20 shots I took in my life.” He obviously can differentiate between easy and difficult but he can’t apply it to Jokic getting beat up tired. SMH
Titus Baldwin him referencing Kawhi who doesn’t shoulder the defensive load like in his spurs years. Referencing MJ and Hakeem. Players from 20+ years ago. Barkley was right
Also, look at how he reponded when Kenny said "Lebron's had to do that his whole career". He's a straight hater. Never seen so much cognitive dissonance.
Chuck was right this time. It's obvious that the team's best offensive player rarely guards the opposing team's best offensive player. They have to save their energy. Someone else has to step up and guard the best player. Michael Jordan rarely defended the best player on the opposing team. That was mostly Pippen & the centers' jobs.
Jamal Murray just played one of the most beautiful basketball games in recent NBA history. The reverse lay in on Lebron, the left hand floater while falling down. His performance was something to remember for a while in my opinion.
I remember coming into the season, everybody said that Frank Vogel was just a temporary fit and was going to get fired sooner or later. Lol he seems to be doing just fine with this roster. People underestimate his coaching abilities for his failures with the Pacers but that had more to do with PG13 choking time and time again and the fact that they were going up against the Miami superteam at the time. If anything, I always felt like he overachieved at Indiana considering the rosters that he had to work with.
I mean yeah they are superior to most teams but it’s not just Vogel doing all the coaching either ! The lakers coaching staff is more like a brain trust. I personally believe they done a helluva a job with this team. They throw some great defensive schemes out there at teams.
@Jack Davainy Definition from the Oxford English Dictionary: seldomly /ˈsɛldəmli/ adverb not often; rarely. "she has another sister, Sandra, but I seldomly see her"
@Jack Davainy In the future, make sure you are correct before you try to arrogantly correct anybody else. Seldom is almost always employed by itself as an adverb, but it does in fact have an adverb form that is seldomly used.
I actually agree with Chuck on this one. We routinely see the player that has a high offensive load (scoring, playmaking), get hid on defense. Battling Dwight when on offense, and then banging with him or guarding AD is more because he control more aspects of the game than those goes.
@@jovohodzic508 wait untill Jokic have someone to cover for him in the paint. Deosnt even need an all star. Just a forward who can defend and rebound. Then you see Jokic full impact on the game. They have Bol Bol and Porter to be that guy..
To be completely honest, Rondo was and has been the most important player for the Lakers success. I'm prayin his contribution is recognized by the franchise and they will do whatever possible to keep him around for years to come. That's as a player and after he decides to hang them up.
No he hasn’t. If either AD or Bron didn’t play they would have ZERO chance. If Rondo doesn’t play they still have a chance. He has played amazing and has helped them win but stop with this nonsense about him being the most important.
In previous years I would agree with Chuck. But Murray has been great offensively these entire playoffs. He is averaging 25+ points a game and had 20 assists in the last two games... Saying that Joker has to carry the entire Nuggets offense is not accurate. I think Shaq is right in that his rhythm was likely affected by having to sit out due to foul trouble. It probably affected his overall aggressiveness and rebounding as well.
Shaq & kenny I tell you what. Charles Barkley is right. What he was letting y'all know is that Jokić was getting worn out by Javale, Dwight, AD. Plus he is pushing his team. Of course great players do that. But great players get tired too. Barkley is right.....on this one
Can’t be standing under a player.. they are granted space to land that the defender is suppose to give them.. its the Kawai rule.. when he played against golden state when he was in San Antonio.. look it up
Chuck got really defensive over Jokic. Weird seeing him so angry. I agree with Kenny and Shaq, no excuse to have 0 points in two 4th quarters no matter what.
@CS Perry I really doubt it because Lebron has still been getting his usual regular season 35 minutes and mostly able to keep himself as a facilitator not even going more than 20 shots or holding the ball most of the time while Jamal Murray has been forced to consistently be playing nearly the entire game for the 3rd straight series. Especially looking at LA's last game against the Blazers, it looks like they can definitely take it to a higher gear in terms of effort. If Denver can also turn it up, then game 5 will be very fun to watch.
Great Dfense by LBJ on Murray. DH39 aggressive. Tnx Coach for giving DH39 more time on the floor. The team is healthy so, we closing this series and get to the finals.
I love Chuck, he is so oblivious and he just interrupts Shaq without even thinking. I cant blame him though, these guys ALWAYS speak over each other. I cant even understand what they are trying to say because they all speak at the same time
Lebron is one of the most phenomenal athlete to ever play sports bro... Jokic is an average athlete. Curry has never guard the best pg in any team. Klay does that...
BEEN doing it! And does EVERY year they say he's washed up. Meanwhile, kawhi does it for 3 years (Minus the scoring responsibility in 1), and the media hypes him up to be the best defender since Jordan! Meanwhile, klay Thompson has LITERALLY guarded the best player on the opposing team, held them to waay below their average, and IS STILL averaging more points then kawhi, AND has played in more games, even while missing a whole season with a torn ACL! The Media LITERALLY can make people beleive ANYTHING!
Not only does he have to guard Anthony Davis but he has a bunch of great defenders thrown at him on the other end. That's the issue. And if you don't think he's going to get tired of that after 231 comebacks I don't know what to tell you
Kenny is wrong. Kawhi doesn’t really guard the best player anymore. That’s because he’s shouldering the offense. Same could be said for a lot of star players.
Exactly
I honestly feel like Kawhi's defense has deteriorated, if not, stayed the same, since he left Spurs.
But chuck is also dead wrong on the tired thing
Jokic isn't guarding AD much
Yeah Kawhi shouldn't have been in the all NBA defense team this year. It's just all narrative at this point that he plays great defense anymore. Wayoff P guards the other team's best players much more often.
@@dwyanelee2203 As much as Paul George choked the series, he is still an amazing defensive talent. Kawhi is still a great defender too, but not as good as he used to be. Paul George is a better defender at this point in their careers but Kawhi is more consistent offensive player.
Kenny and Shaq don’t realize that Charles never winning a chip actually gives him great perspective as an analyst. His experience in losing helps him to know what breaks down in a team’s loss
Kenny and Shaq have also experienced their share of losses. But they also know what it takes to win the championship. 🤗
Or he can make the best excuses
U do know shaq got swept in the finals by Hakeem in 94’
@@ultrakwon if only chuck played with players in their prime with the skills of Kobe and Wade. Casuals
Q B yeah Chuck never had a great co star in his prime on the Suns
Ernie: shaq, how bout that play
Shaq: …
Chuck: LisTEn
🤣😂😂😂
Haha that's a good one
ruclips.net/video/-g1Bi1Xuy-A/видео.html Jamal Murray vs Jordan Layup comparison INSANE
listen erneh
😂😂😂
"I'm telling you right now chuck imma frisbee this ipad at ya"
Shaq really is Mr. Sensitive 🤣
He said shaq!! Sthu!!
We can disagree!
Always been that way, too big to be like that.
Yup he’s has a big ego 😂😂
Anyone would be somewhat sensitive if you get cut off every time you try to speak
They make Chuck seem like the clown but it’s Kenny every time
You could have sworn Kenny was top 10 all time the way he critiques
Kenny is definitely sniffing his own gravy thinking he can cook
Kenny definitely got dropped off on 3rd base in a limo and swore he hit a triple
BreadVersusYoga of *Animal House* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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This is interesting...
The Lakers in the last 2 series were up 3-1
The Nuggets in the last 2 series was down 1-3
Now for the 3rd series in a row, they BOTH find themselves in the same position.
So if history decides to repeat itself again, it's either going to be Lakers in 5 or Nuggets in 7.
Lakers in 5
Lakers in 5 all playoffs PROBABLY FINALS too!
@@internet678 nahhh u seen the east......time to get the brooms and sweep 2020
Lakers in 5
Lakers in 5 41 41 41 for kobe
Rondo getting that offensive rebound was the dagger 🙆♂️😂😂
They really should have used Jokic until he fouled out. No one else on the Nuggets could get rebounds...
Dude was tired that’s one reason he was in foul trouble
Game 7 is gonna be really nice when Nuggets make History with triple 777
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@@MrJadeHappy u really betting 15,000 dont abandon this comment section now.....ob by the way HIT ME UP BOI I BET 50 BUCKS
Playoff Rondo
Lakers fans praying chuck doesn’t guarantee the 4-1 series win 😂🏀
we dont need chuck..chuck needs the Lakers more than the lakers need him.
He already guaranteed a gentleman sweep so technically he’s either gonna be right or wrong 💀💯
Truth!
Bron came back from a harder 3-1 deficit.
He knows what it takes to do that.
He'll have the Lakers ready for game 5
ruclips.net/video/-g1Bi1Xuy-A/видео.html Jamal Murray vs Jordan Layup comparison INSANE
Everyone: Dwight Howard
Charles Barkley: Duuuwhiiite Howerd
Everyone: Kyle Kuzma
Chuck: Karl Kuzma
Ginooooooooobli!!!
Everyone: Dwight Howard
Shaq: Jaaavaaalllee McGGGGEEEEEE
Kenny wrong, Kawhi doesn’t guard the best player everytime.
Thats why he should if he wants to be an all-time great
@@MrBrent69 i mean he did but not all the time so you right
Neither does jokic
Lebron nvr does
@@strongman4451 Yeah okay Derrick Rose- Michael Jordan. GTFOH
Chucks right, joker has to battle Howard in the post, guard AD on the outside, he has generate offense with his assist and score on top of that, AD has bron, all he has to focus on is scoring.
Yea, not to mention all the screens he has to set. That's like the nuggets only offense
Bron was gaurding Jokic??? Huh?
Bron does all that
shyguymuzik In some possessions he did, but what he meant was that ad has lebron to generate the offense and be the majority playmaker on the team just like jokic
Yep Jokic can't take any plays off.
Think chuck was just getting at the fact that the joker has to go against Howard, McGee and AD. One after the other.
yeah and you can clearly see it depleting his stamina throughout the series.
As Shaq said “if your the best player in the playoffs you have to guard the best player at your position especially down the stretch
@@reisehnhicks1705 Point is Jokic needs help and the Nuggets do have an answer, he's BolBol their 7'2" player. Jokic can't focus on offensive when facing 3 rotating bigs meanwhile they stay out of foul trouble and he get 5 fouls and has to sit.
@CS Perry , stop lying it's the other way around!
Thats exactly what he was trying to say but they like to talk over Chuck which can be annoying at times.
Can Kenny shut up and let Chuck speak? He’s trying to make a point, he was a MVP and a superstar. You were a role player and got carried.
man acts like he was irreplaceable on that rockets team
even a role player understands basketball at a near-genius level. they should let each other speak though.
Raymond Valasquez near genius level? Come on now the genius’ are the ones in the top 50 players ever not the role players
Kenny & Shaq were being biased this time. Deep down they both knew that Chuck was right, which is why they won't let him speak. Kenny & Shaq don't want the players today to be greater than the players during their era, so they act like today's NBA is soft. Chuck himself admitted that he did not have to defend Karl Malone all the time. I'm sure Chuck won't admit that today's players are better either, but at least he was honest enough to not let his bias cloud his opinion this time.
Chuck was a MVP and superstar as an individual but only got close one time to a championship. It’s a different level.
Ernie just watching them fight not trying to get involved. Ernie is the true MVP
You don’t interrupt legends discussing the game he ain’t molly
Playboichris My gawd. FR😂😂 I mean Stephen A and other analysists ain’t NBA legends either but STILL. She only interrupts 😂
Who was right?
Chuck is right. Jokic does EVERYTHING for that team.
More than Kawhi does for his team.
Plus I think Howard made Joker work really hard for everything, so he got tired
The first half part of your statement I agree with. The Kawhi part is wrong. Kawhi led the clippers in all 5 categories in the playoffs; points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals.
Jokic gonna learn from this though. Most great young players get that playoff beat down work early in there careers
He does everything offensively but not on D.
Yeah clearly murray isnt shouldering any offensive load... the guy is balling scoring on everyone and upping his playmaking yet Jokic is doing everything alone offensively ? Foh man. Bad reffed game stole us from an acceptable result win or lose it was a terrible game becuz of refs
@@shangoapparel5073 True. But Kawhi has a better supporting cast
3:50 Dudley built like my neighbour with an alcohol problem
He built different
😂😂😂😂
Better believe him when he says “I coulda made it to the league” then 😂😂
Dudley is that cool substitute teacher that puts on movies 😂
😂😂😂
Chuck interrupting Shaq is too funny 💀😭
It’s supposed to be 1,2,3 not 1,2,1
你mmp
He does it all the time🤣
Lol Ernie did that shyt on purpose they be instigating
Sai Pitta a
These young cats with Den are hard nosed, tough, skilled, and well coached. Not quite their time but as a LAL fan much respect.
Agree
Not quite their time because the refs make it so
Remember fam this team came back from 2 3-1 deficits this year. L.A. needs to come out next game with massive energy and put this series away.
Very well said i been sweating whole time not gonna be happy until lakers finish them denver can never be counted out lebron and ad gonna show up its the supporting cast that worry me sometimes imagine giannis on denver
Ani K is you add up all the free throws in the 4 games you will find out that the lakers have 113 and the nuggets have 113.
Kawhi didn’t guard Luka, Murray, Jokic and many other great players. Tape doesn’t lie Kenny “the liar” Smith
@Roger Edgerton all those players he mentioned are the best players for their teams and Kawhi wasn't guarding them all the time. You mentioning curry, klay and lebron and saying they're better means nothing.
He guarded LeBron in 2014.
@@PresbianTier wasn't the main guy then he was coming tho
kawhi doesnt guard best players all time so do jokic doesnt guard best big guys all the time thats the game
I could totally understand chuck's point but i think he just wasn't able to articulate it in the moment.
Also it helps when you got kenny and shaq hammering down on you.
Lets not compare jokic to the greats but lets talk about the matchups in this series.
Jokic is always facing a fresh defensive center of the highest caliber (whether it be AD or Dwight and even Javale whose not on the same level but always brings the energy for the minutes he is on the floor)
Jokic has to play more minutes than any of the guys guarding him and AD is relatively fresher when Jokic has to defend him.
So he has to work way harder to get himself going on the offensive end and at the same time work hard to stop a much fresher AD.
And on top of this he has to stop all these guys from rebounding the basketball so chuck does have a point.
Whether he has to overcome this to become a "great" or a champion is a different question
They're switching and hitting the post off the switch like the olden days which means jokic isnt in the mix and doesn't have to worry about being out rebounded by a shorter opponent and this happens a majority of possessions. There's not really much of a reason for his defender to matter as the support cast has shown their ability to knock down in and out 3s. You don't have to score the ball to still be aggressive and productive. You can watch all the greats when they were tired or injured, their role always changes to fit what's needed to secure the win. Jokic teammates have shown a high percentage in perimeter set shooting and they scored a few times from it but he kind of stopped it. I don't know if being tired is an excuse considering they kept letting teams get 3-1 leads but regardless there's more ways to be productive without carrying the scoring load.
Naw bro Jokic is out of shape hes too gassed by AD Dwight and Lakers transition. You didnt see it last series clippers had short Montrez and a slow average center in Zubac
"Let's not compare Jokic to the greats" then why would I even care to read anymore? aspire to be great. smh
asking a player to be the best defender, rebounder, run the offense and score 25 pts a game is allot .....Denver needs another big man that can pick up the slack on that side of the court.
They have to get a good backup guy this offseason. Plumlee isn’t cutting it
If they stop hating on chuck they would see his point lol
Jokic need to play good o and good d
Against AD Howard
Kawhi did not guard doncic or kzap
Are they playing at Kawhi position ?
U r so wrong. If you’re making it a point he has to do a lot and he cant handle it, guess what, that means he isnt that great. Greats guard greats. There are countless examples of it. Kobe played great offense and guarded the best players. Kawhi guarded Giannis. Jordan always wanted the other team’s best player
luka mad like 2 shots with kawhi on him thats why there was a screen everytime
...and only guarded Murray in short stretches. He hasn't been a lockdown defender since the Spurs. Doc has enabled Kawhi and PG to take it easy on the defensive end all season long. Even last year, Kawhi wasn't guarding the opponent's best player for entire games and taking on that assignment soley. Ever since his offensive game caught up to his defense, he hasn't been asked to put as much effort into the defensive end because he has to carry so much of the scoring load now. It also looks like that knee problem has slowed him down a little bit. Still a beast, I'm just pointing out Kenny's incorrect take.
Kawhi guarded Doncic but Doncic kept on switching to a weaker opponent.
Barkley got this one right, the best doesn't always guard the best, On and off
That’s true
Exactly then Kenny tried to say Jordan did and that's wrong... Scottie did
1:41 Chuck messing with Shaq is gold
Lol
ruclips.net/video/hyrA8UaCeGE/видео.html
Anyone: Man it sure is a nice day outside
Shaq: Man up!
Chuck: ah ah ah
Shaq: Man up!
I'm tired of Kenny talking like he was on the same level as Chuck and Shaq
Bruce Wayne he never thinks that
He really only played 2yrs. Tell me what Kenny Smith did after that he was trash
you got that right. Kenny is not even close to those two greats!
Kuzma + Green = Trash Brothers 😂
Kawhi Lennit true cause that’s not the Danny green we know💯
Kuzma had two good 3s in the second half that helped but besides that he did nothing.
Porter owning kuz.
Carlo Rebebes I feel like kuz is at his best when he makes those cutting plays off the ball and he hasnt been doing that consistently
Kuzma is good. Stop it. Danny is trash!
No Kenny. Kawhi never guarded Doncic fully. He’ll even MJ didn’t do it in his time.
facts. it was Pippen who guards the opponents' best players...but sadly, he doesn't get enough credit for it.
Yeah Pippen needs credit people only look at michael
Jordan is just untouchable and thats wrong.
His the Greatest of his era. But he would be an average player in todays league
Jamal Murray joined MJ:
only players to record 40+ pts, 5+ reb, 5+ ast in 3 straight playoff games.
Luka also getting MJ numbers in only 2 years
Giannis also getting Shaq numbers
Steph breaking 3pt records
Jordan surely cant survive in this league when you already have young players doing what he was doing
@@rennisdodman8739 It's like people talk like these rules wouldn't make MJ more unguardable than he ever was
Lol MJ is like Kobe on steroids he will dominate the league
Kenny is wrong, even MJ didn't guard the best player all game
Scottie Pippen
SLIP NORRIS exactly A+++++
@@slipnorris5882 Wasn't it more just guard your position at that time no matter the player?
Yes sir it was Scotty P
@@austinclubb2093 Yes and no. Scottie was a SF and guarded the best player from 1-3 sometimes smaller 4's. Magic was a PG, but wasn't guarding most PG's because of his size.
shaq and Kenny constantly interrupting chuck every 5 seconds. no respect, just let the man make his point
Chuck talks over everyone all day,did you not watch the first few minutes of the video
MyNoseisDirty When they’re chatting, not while they’re disagreeing on basketball. Chuck might be goofy, but he has always been respectful of other’s opinion. Notice that he is the one saying that they can actually disagree.
Pippen guarded the opposite teams best player each time and I see chuck's point
exactly
Not always. It would be a switch. Usually even unless the game was getting out of hand, then MJ would guard them (like Lebron in this game).
Pippen's defensive skill is what got him in the top 50 players of all time list. Mike was athletic enough to lock up guards... except Magic. Pip had to take him in that series. The entire Bulls team was all about defense. Some say the defense captain was Mike, but I honestly think Pip was the guy. Offense was obviously all MJ.
I would say Jordan is as good as Pippen if not better on defense. Pippen had to be their main defensive guy just because Jordan has to be their main offensive guy.
@@romwell321 I completely disagree with that. Jordan was a very good defender, but not better than Pippen. Pippen might be the best defender ever.
Chuck owned this situation and handled that debate like a pro. Can’t stand when Kenny and Shaq belittle and don’t even listen to Chuck’s statements, especially when they’re wrong.
Shaq & Kenny don't want today's players to be better than players in their era. That is why they act like today's players are soft. But they both know Chuck was right, which is exactly why they wouldn't let him speak.
Facts he’s a better analyst than both of them.
Chuck needs to tell them flat out "shut up when I'm talking or I'm going to shut you up myself."
Dwight was a beast this game, no idea why he wasn't used in the 2nd half.
2nd half guards are cooking they need more perimeter defense I think. Howard getting trouble switching and guarding slashing players. and jokic is cold in 4th.
They’re saving him, like the LeBron Davis PnR. They want to get two good games before the opposition can adjust in the finals.
King L probably to save his play for this moment right here . They need every bit of stamina and a rested body to put on jokic it’s smart . Scared people but smart to tire him out . 🤷🏾♂️
Jokic died in the 1st half so no need for dwight in the 2nd half
I don't know why we didn't really use him games 2 and 3. Used Mcgee more than Howard. Howard has that old school mentality
So Kenny just sleep when Clippers play. Coz he doesn't know that Kawhi wasn't guarding the best player of opposite team
Sanjeev Kumar exactly. Kawhi wasn’t guarding Luka all the time in the first round and he wasn’t guarding Murray all the time in the semis
Purified Water u not watching are you. He guarded murray this game when it matters most and limited his impact
@@BossRoz u probably misunderstood what he said. He probably meant that lebron's not guarding a nobody. He guards a star of the opposing team.
@@dontariomoore99 thats kennys point
Kawhi has played in the league for multiple years, not just this year.
Dwight howard make all the difference in this match, first he out rebound everybody from the beginning, inspired his teammates to fight for rebound all the way. And he singlehandedly stopped nikola jokic , who didn't make any impact because of dwight defense.
@Isaac Mulka he is not a go to guy. Thats pretty much it. They will not set up plays for him like when he is in Orlando. The game has changed and dwight cant even post up or have good footwork. All he need to do is hustle and make his presence felt.
@@kencabuso4243 he doesn't have to be a go to guy but there were plays like when Dwight had jokic under the rim, AD stared at him and passed it to LeBron for a deep 3. That's just bad basketball
@@sportscommenter2680 thanks for this. Kinda agreed but again, if you are not the priority guy and it is the conference finals superstars have their pride.
@@kencabuso4243 and that's why they can lose to a team like Miami because they actually play like a TEAM
Agree to that. You should replace Chuck 😅
I love this show, but this was easily the most awkward/hardest one to watch. My god.
The way they wouldnt let chuck explain his point RE the best players on both ends. You can't continually shoot down someones point if you're not letting them even explain it.
And Chuck was right.
nah he wasn’t in my opinion. if your a great player it’s your responsibility to guard the best player and still control the offense on the other end. i don’t think there is any excuse for jokic.
@@shelovesmar that's fair, I agree with chuck here and it's OK to disagree, no issue with that at all. But in this segment it felt like they subconsciously wanted to gang up on him and not let him talk, which was petty.
Let my boy Chuck speak, he can’t even make his case.
Its not a case...he making excuses. Like Kenny say your going guard the best players in the semi finals. The best players happen to be Bron and AD. Jokers dealing with a team that has height and athleticism at the center position which he didn't face vs the clips and jazz.
@@blackwind6317 Wrong, Gobbert was 1st Defensive Team this year, also Zubac is the same height. Get your facts right boy
Listen Errnneehhh
I think chuck is trying to say that yes Jokic is a great player, but he literally does EVERYTHING for his team. Yes some great players have guarded the best player on the other team, but Jokic has to Guard AD, Facilitate to his team, score, and crash the boards. It’s a sound argument.
I know right let him talk jeez
Tired of Kenny acting like he wasn’t a role player. Sure you’re a pro and won a championship but you could have been replaced easily bro
And all he doe's is talks about himself. Nobody cares.
Hakeem's carried generic
FR! That dude talking like if he was an all star
You don't win titles without quality role players. Kenny hit some big shots in his career.
@@gkniffen exactly bro
Kawhi does not guard the other team's best player the whole game and hasn't in years, kenny is full of it
True. Same for Lebron, Luka Doncic, Donovan Mitchel, Devin Booker, Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, etc.
The best offensive player rarely guards the best player on the other team.
Udi Shomer not the full game that’s for sure
He was last year playoffs, like when he was guarding Giannis the whole game.
k'naan Man no he wasn’t bro giannis was gettin guarded by like 4 raptors players, he would’ve easily scored on kawhi most of the games if it was just kawhi on him
Yo yes he has, not the whole game obviously cuz ball is more complex than just being on one guy all game....
3:42 Jared Dudley looking like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker’s out of shape Lovechild
😂😂😂😂
He standing there like he playing any minutes this game 😂
under that tank is an 8pack
Dwight : Starting game 4
Jokic: here we go again lol
Dwight is not his problem or any other player, its the refs who can stop Joker
Joker does foul a lot tho .
@@jleww8959 he does but they call those fouls, but when they foul him they don't call it in many cases, that is a big difference. he barely touch any of them they call, they keep beating him while he's doing his foot work and no call. Or when someone literally grab his hand so he can't jump or move and they call foul on him when he try to take his arm out
Barkley hes right on this one
HES KICKS!
Boyyyyy what????? Stop giving him an excuse.......
Barkley is right?
he doesnt know how to explain his thought, we have seen joker burn out in the playoffs before it happens every time, its not an excuse he just doesnt have the skill to keep playing hail mary shots from mid range
Kenny had to make the first seconds about him somehow
he does that almost always
Finally someone annoyed by Kenny shifting the conversation to talk abouy himself
@@m.4024 Fr man. He bringing bad vibes to my name cause my name is Kenny too
and nobodys interested, he's a role player with rings, that's all
Rite...kenny is top5 player ever in his mind when he's commentating lol. It's great to have confidence thas why he made da NBA but he has a habit of comparing his career nd role on teams to superstars lol he does dis constantly
Total Foul calls for both teams in this series:
Calls on Lakers: 109
Calls on DEN: 97
Technicals
On LAL: 4
On Den: 1
Free throw attempts
LAL: 113
Den: 113
Kawhi wanted no smoke from Luka that entire series we all saw that. He doesnt guard the best player like he used to because he has to carry them on offense... everyone knows that....
Don't let them distract you from the fact that Joker is getting WORKED by an old Howard. Completely took him out of TWO games this series....
Murry is going to be a superstar. Kid has heart and is a beast. The league is in good hands with these young bloods
The leagues in terrible corrupt hands that’s never gonna change I mean the nuggets have NEVER MOVED UP IN THE DRAFT LOTTERY we’ve been in the lottery 14 times and haven’t moved up a single spot in any of the 14 years if that’s not rigged i don’t know what is
@@user-cf8gr9xx6c god bless them not being scared to take a kid with injury history! MPJ had back surgery that's why he slipped to you guys and bol bol had foot surgery or he would have went higher. Smart GM all players drafted and even plumlee came back after leaving so obviously they have GREAT management. I like their team alot.
@David JR 😂😂cry more
Bruh my fingers are getting tired of having to say this over and over and over again SMH here’s a stat stat guy... Lakers had 32 Ft by half in the first alone.. 24 in the 2qtr!! Then the calls even out on garbage time when Lakers were blowing Denver out.. stats don’t tell the whole story my guy 😂😂😂😂 here’s another stat Bron and AD combined for 24 attempts tonight compared to the Nuggets 23 attempts 😂😂😂
jeah BUT !!! jokic and murrey get out of game in game 1 because of refs jokic was out of game in game 4 and lbj never get more than 3 fouls per game something is stinking . FIXED !!!!
Kenny with the: "Jordan was guarding the best player"
Yea fo sure with his 6'6 he was guarding Hakeem, Karl Malone, Shaq and those other giants who dominated nba back then
Plus in his own 90s version a certain top 25 all-time and greatest perimeter defender ever Scottie Pippen didn't exist.
He missed him in his Bulls matchups when he was peeking from Hakeem's back.
The best guards during Jordan's time were non-scorers like Stockton, IT, Gary Payton etc. Miller, Drexler, Mullin, etc. were great, but they were never elite. Who among them were as big or athletic as Jordan, such that they could give him a hard time?
Neutral Girl - Joe Dumars has entered the chat
@@Black14825 the fact that you named one guy, proved his point
@@neutralgirl8997 wow you know nothing about basketball history I can't believe u said that lol u lebron fans need a brain transplant
Yo does Kenny actually watch games?
He runs on myths and misconceptions apparently, even for his own era topic.
Nah... he just walks out on games but nobody follows him.
By the look on Murray's face you can tell he is mentally tired just the fact being down 3-1 for the third time's and you tell he knows this is going extra difficult to overcome.
He looked different down 3-1 to clippers than to the lakers, nugs finally mentally beat
This guy honestly scares me
Funny you should make that comment. The Lakers have a way of just wearing out the other teams. It happened in the Portland & Houston series. You could see the other team's players have this look on their face like "I'm done". Nuggets are still fighting, but I think you are right exhaustion is setting in.
The nuggets are tired at this point. Coming back from 3-1 deficit twice in previous rounds, we can just appreciate what they have accomplished. Nobody saw them at this stage in the playoffs
Roger S Lakers are hella fast. Teams rarely get a break when they score bc the Lakers push immediately and with Rondo, Bron and AD you have to get back or you just gave up easy buckets.
These guys need to chill they got me laughing like an idiot 🤣🤣🤣
Bro I’m high asl Shaq funny asl talking about rondo after they kept cutting him off😭😭😭 “this guy always controls the game “ I was dead bruh
lol
Am i the only one who noticed the locker room convo? Coach said “thanks lebron & ad . Cool that everybody else showed up.. lets do it again” 😂 like what
he tnx Dwight , listen again
supporting cast 🤣🤣🤣🤣 thank you
selective hearing, he thanked Howard too
he just speakin facts and not bulljivin, it is what it is.
@@rodelmanalo9063 He should have thanked Rondo too.
What chuck is trying to say is that Jokic is first of all a Center ,he has to rebound move the ball and create for his teammates, no other center did that, whith his height and weight is very difficult to have the same energy, that's my interpretation anyway ,have a blessed day everyone
He's right but that's not a real excuse
@@anjr9915 if you listen to Shaq what he is saying i get it. But sorry shaq while being a laker even in Orlando did not have to bring the ball up the court or for that matter made the passes jokic does. Now don't get me wrong Shaq was a different beast on his own, dominated through sheer power. Jokic has to pass, bring the ball up the floor at times, guard Davis (not all the time tho) and deal on offense with dewight, Davis and Javal if needed. So yea i understand men can get tired...
@@anjr9915 not an excuse its the reason. Vogel knows this so that why he getting credit for his chessmove
@@milan90ful you have to make sure you are ready for the responsibility, Jokic needs to get in way better shape
Stop it Kenny, Kawhi DOES NOT guard the best player on the other team. Those days are over, he MIGHT do it in crunch time.
Charles “will them to win” Barkley.
It's his favourite saying lol
JohnnyL REACTS *second favourite 1st is I GUARANTEEEE IT
I beg him to garuntee that lakers don't win the title
Nuggets: "We're down 3-1"
Also Nuggets: "I can do this all day"..
not on this los angeles team
If Nuggets win Game 5, I have a feeling they'll come back. But who knows?
Lol not happening lebron 14-0 on 3-1 lead you can see it in murrays face its a wrap
Nah not this time. Once you get Jokic into foul trouble it’s over. At this point the Lakers are gonna play chess with them, and that’s their best bet. I honestly thought the Lakers could’ve lost that game last night. Every shot was needed.
@@dudewotever11 Denver make off season vacation plans
Just wonder what Kuz was doing jumping around Porter jr. while he was shooting 3 :)
The second time I wanted to die for a second lol
The first one, Kuz had a nice recovery but then for some reason he decided to jump and in the second one idk what he was doing
Jonathan Davis what minute mark?
@@jonathandavis2527 Lol IKR the second one hurt more
You do a flyby in a scramble or it ll be impossible to contest if u do a shuffle step on close out. Pick your poison. Sometimes the pump fake will throw a shooter’s rhythm off
The Nuggets In the locker room after going down 3-1:
Mike Malone: You know the drill
I hate when they interview the losing team. Murray didn’t want to talk to them. I felt bad for them.
In F1 you can have second and third place but in the NBA man up!
Especially after being robbed!
DMbabeful Robbed? What are you on about?
JetFlyer62901 well. It
Depends on if you watched the game or the highlights. If you watched this here, Chuck already helped you in the last mins. If you watched the game you should already know.
DMbabeful Doesn't really answer my question. Are you trying to say that the Nuggets got robbed, because of those foul calls against them late in the game?
Chuck doesn't look like he's getting enough sleep with those dark circles
He needs to snack on
them churros
It's genetics. It will get worse as he ages...
Serve eachoneus
@@imaMickeysman It's just hyperpigmentation. If he cared, he could take care of that with a good dermatologist.
Hes a drinker also
I got to put Respect on Jamal Murray name He is a new age inverson with the scoring he's layout against lebron up there
More like Gilbert Arenas
I can't give him that AI fam
Reminds me of Kyrie in Boston, destroying my Raptors everytime... Except he's doing it in the WCF against Lebron. He's special
Michael Barnes that’s a pretty good one actually
@@system331 Jay Williams said it 1st lol, when I thought about it it made sense Jamal makes alot of crazy 3s like Gilbert
chuck actually made a really good point when he said kawhi didn’t guard luka
Yeah hes absolutely right. Kawhi DID NOT guard Luka all game
Only “defense” I saw was luka hitting a shot in kawhi’s mouth.... but still love kawhi
@@tdot2853 If Porzingis didn’t get that bogus ejection, Mavs would’ve won that game and series.
Murry looks like he knows it's OVER. They Definitely! won't be coming back on this one....
Kenny so MJ was sticking The Dream in the post??? Stop it 😂😂😂 he needs be a role player on the show like he was on the rockets chill out man 🤦🏽♂️
EXACTLY!! 😂
@@getbread33 MJ and Hakeem never met in the postseason, so the point is moot.
But even if they did, MJ would be guarding Hakeem as much as Hakeem would be guarding MJ. It goes both ways. Chuck's making excuses for Jokic having to guard AD when AD is out there guarding Jokic too.
@@redskullz1249 Ummm sweetie you're wrong! MJ would NOT guard The Dream unless it was a switch it. They play two different positions so that's false. It doesn't matter if they didn't meet in the finals, they still played each other. And Jordan was guarding Drexler. Which was the BEST player at the guard position on the rockets team. So stop! Please learn the game of basketball before you comment. And Chuck isn't making excuses...he's telling the truth..Ad is barley guarding the Joker, that's why they have Howard out there.. so again stop!
@@getbread33 Lol "sweetie", you missed the point, which is that Jordan guarded Hakeem about as much as Hakeem guarded Jordan, which was not much since they played different positions, obviously. Every player guards the guy he's matched up with, so why does Jokic get excuses because he has to guard AD when AD doesn't need the excuses when he has to guard Jokic? Why didn't Hakeem and Robinson get excuses when they were matched up against each other? Or Shaq and the entire Western Conference?
@@redskullz1249 But there really wasn't a point sweetie lol. But I get what you're saying. So, On the Spurs team you had Duncan and Robinson. On the Rockets you had Thorpe and Olajuwon. So each position was taken care of. They did not guard each other every possession, BUT, they had another big man next to them to help. That's basically what Barkley is saying. There is not another big man on the nuggets to help the Joker with all the other Big men on the Lakers. Even with Shaq, he had Tree Rollins lol. I mean tree wasn't the best but it helped. Playing next to Shaq helped shaq not to have to defend the top center all night long. Thats how I took what Barkley was trying to say. Millsap is not the guy for that. But Malone can start Pumlee or heck even BOL BOL. I mean they aren't the best ...but it will help combat fouls and both with help hold down that block a little more.
Have to respect Murray. Howard really set the tone played so well. Lakers won throughout.
I could tell from his energy in game 3 Howard was gonna have a impact in game 4. People forget dude a hall of famer.
Howard isn't a hall of famer
@@mistercaptjack9577 If Lakers win the chip, He'll be. I actually think he is.
I don't
@@mistercaptjack9577 you must JUST started watching basketball
i agree with chuck, Jokic is got to be tired, i mean who wouldnt? Passing, Shooting, Blocking, and rebounding against the tallest team left on the buble... i mean we could bring any great of the past and at this point after 18 games practically without rest they would be tired aswell, but as a laker fan i still am confident that jokic will bring his best next game... is gonna be a tough one im sure
felix veloz literally LeBron in 2018 playoffs with cavs lol
+Shirokami
Not really cuz lebron didn't have a reliable scoring option like jokic does with Murray
@@ThePsp123789 I meant the fact that he's doing mostly everything all around. Your point does make a better case for
LeBron though
He aint blocking no shots he doesn't even contest shots down low
joker does not try on defense lol. did you see what kcp did on the baseline?
3:45 Dudley out here looking like a middle-aged insurance salesmen getting ready to play a game of pick up with his son after work.
JR takin his spot next year😂
Built different
🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Chuck for having the Nuggets back. Honestly I don’t know how you watch that game and think the officials called it fair
Kenny: Jokic can’t be tired.
Also Kenny: “...because I’m playing with great players I know I will get 5 great shots... when I was Sacramento I was getting 20 shots but they were the hardest 20 shots I took in my life.”
He obviously can differentiate between easy and difficult but he can’t apply it to Jokic getting beat up tired. SMH
I fast forward when Kenny talks
Hussain Family 😂
CHUCKS HAVE POINT AT THIS TIME.. WHEN DWIGHT GUARDING JOKER HAD NO PRESSURE..
Speak english
Shutup kenny! Barkley was right, best players don't guard best players anymore.
It’s about match ups and now you only guard the best player in crunch time different game now
Kenny is an idiot
Tyler Hamman how?
Titus Baldwin him referencing Kawhi who doesn’t shoulder the defensive load like in his spurs years. Referencing MJ and Hakeem. Players from 20+ years ago. Barkley was right
Tyler Hamman bro Kawhi did it last year against Milwaukee when Milwaukee was up in the series and heavily the favorite
does chuck have this same energy defending bron back when he’s backpacking cleveland back in 2018? this a genuine question
I bet Sir Charles hadn't, or even back in 2007 too
Nope. I remember.
Also, look at how he reponded when Kenny said "Lebron's had to do that his whole career". He's a straight hater. Never seen so much cognitive dissonance.
Chuck was right this time. It's obvious that the team's best offensive player rarely guards the opposing team's best offensive player. They have to save their energy. Someone else has to step up and guard the best player. Michael Jordan rarely defended the best player on the opposing team. That was mostly Pippen & the centers' jobs.
Jamal Murray just played one of the most beautiful basketball games in recent NBA history. The reverse lay in on Lebron, the left hand floater while falling down. His performance was something to remember for a while in my opinion.
I remember coming into the season, everybody said that Frank Vogel was just a temporary fit and was going to get fired sooner or later. Lol he seems to be doing just fine with this roster. People underestimate his coaching abilities for his failures with the Pacers but that had more to do with PG13 choking time and time again and the fact that they were going up against the Miami superteam at the time. If anything, I always felt like he overachieved at Indiana considering the rosters that he had to work with.
I could take this roster to the finals
Nah he faced lebron inn all those pacers defeat he actually fits pretty well
I mean yeah they are superior to most teams but it’s not just Vogel doing all the coaching either ! The lakers coaching staff is more like a brain trust. I personally believe they done a helluva a job with this team. They throw some great defensive schemes out there at teams.
Paul George and Roy Hibbert were once great players with great supporting cast in Granger, West, and Lance.
Itsjustlikemagic honestly it’s his defense that has been the key 👏🏾🤟🏾
Love how Ernie is interrupted so seldomly.
Because his the Goat
Jack Davainy shutup
@Jack Davainy Definition from the Oxford English Dictionary:
seldomly
/ˈsɛldəmli/
adverb
not often; rarely.
"she has another sister, Sandra, but I seldomly see her"
@Jack Davainy In the future, make sure you are correct before you try to arrogantly correct anybody else. Seldom is almost always employed by itself as an adverb, but it does in fact have an adverb form that is seldomly used.
@Jack Davainy hey grammar police...you're wrong
The goat dudley so inspirational
I actually agree with Chuck on this one. We routinely see the player that has a high offensive load (scoring, playmaking), get hid on defense. Battling Dwight when on offense, and then banging with him or guarding AD is more because he control more aspects of the game than those goes.
Shaq and Kenny pure nonsense. Let Chuck complete his statement.
Chuck is right, Jokic has many tough assignments that would be hard to do..
I love the man, but this game is on him. No excuses if he wants to be the champion.
@@jovohodzic508 Yeah, in time Jokic will get tired while Lakers have a 3 Big-man Rotation
@@jovohodzic508 wait untill Jokic have someone to cover for him in the paint. Deosnt even need an all star. Just a forward who can defend and rebound. Then you see Jokic full impact on the game. They have Bol Bol and Porter to be that guy..
@@daibeet4159 If he wants the ring, he's gotta go for it. Still, I don't think this is over.
no excuse. If that's the difference between winning and losing the series he needs to find a way to get it done.
Why Kenny Smith Always Talking about when he used to play... Dude you never were a star... lets the youngters play!! period!
he is an analyst! that why
So so true. He needs to be replaced asap.
He feels unappreciated with two former MVPs and hall of famers around him.
Trying to make himself more relevant.
lol atleast he got rings than Clippers🤣
why not? it is a good comparison. kcp is a role player and kenny was a role player too. did he say he was a star?
To be completely honest, Rondo was and has been the most important player for the Lakers success. I'm prayin his contribution is recognized by the franchise and they will do whatever possible to keep him around for years to come. That's as a player and after he decides to hang them up.
No he hasn’t. If either AD or Bron didn’t play they would have ZERO chance. If Rondo doesn’t play they still have a chance. He has played amazing and has helped them win but stop with this nonsense about him being the most important.
bob bill obviously he isn’t as important as lebron or AD lol. I think he means out of the role players
Leadership
AD by far.
Charles@1:44 had me 😭.....
I knew he was going to talk when Shaq was talking🤣
Danny Green and Kuzma need to score 10+ to close out the Nuggets
Paul millsap and Jeremy grant was guarding Davis the whole game....
And ad dropped 34 point on their heads
Chuck in his feelings 🤣
@@yutubvlogs8889 on 68 % shooting 😂they cannot stop AD when AD aggressive like that.
@@mayursingh9763 honestly no one can guard AD coz he's an agile 7footer triple threat like KD
Gotta give credit to vogel to start Howard cuz joker getting banged up.
In previous years I would agree with Chuck. But Murray has been great offensively these entire playoffs. He is averaging 25+ points a game and had 20 assists in the last two games... Saying that Joker has to carry the entire Nuggets offense is not accurate. I think Shaq is right in that his rhythm was likely affected by having to sit out due to foul trouble. It probably affected his overall aggressiveness and rebounding as well.
Boy if Denver comes back and wins this series the whole world would be turned upside down 🤣🤣
🤣 man if that happens i probably wont the nba no more
Lebron won't allow that
Lebron is 14-0 when up 3-1. Literally the best example of an unstoppable force vs an immoveable object
@@highlybaked8417 you mean just "unstoppable force"
I bet $2,020 denver in 7
Shaq & kenny I tell you what. Charles Barkley is right. What he was letting y'all know is that Jokić was getting worn out by Javale, Dwight, AD. Plus he is pushing his team. Of course great players do that. But great players get tired too. Barkley is right.....on this one
Except if you actually watch the games Jokic doesn’t guard AD most of the game they have Grant and Millsap do it.
Anthony Davis takes a jump shot and twist his OWN ANKLE
Referees: Foul on Paul Milsap
Can’t be standing under a player.. they are granted space to land that the defender is suppose to give them.. its the Kawai rule.. when he played against golden state when he was in San Antonio.. look it up
Dominique Davis Facts they added that new rule SPECIFICALLY because of that Zaza foul on Kawhi
You gotta give shooters space to land, bud. It’s a foul.
Chuck got really defensive over Jokic. Weird seeing him so angry. I agree with Kenny and Shaq, no excuse to have 0 points in two 4th quarters no matter what.
Probably because deep down Jokic is the player he wanted/wished he was.
KENNY DONT EVER PUT JORDAN AND LAWHI IN THE SAME SENTENCE
danny green spends more time on his podcast than his game
And doing video lessons on how to brick and disappear
He is mostly around for defensive purposes imo
Chuck really the only one who can talk sense without his ego dictating his logical senses.
Lakers:YES ONE STEP CLOSER
Nuggets:Right where we want them
LOL!
@@NeW758 XD is that worth a subscribe to my channel? 😅
3-1? The Nuggets have the Lakers right where they want em!
😆 Easier said than done
@CS Perry Yes, let the salt flow through you.
CS Perry why have the Lakers been called for more fouls this series?
Nuggets fans always crying about the ref😂😂😂
@CS Perry I really doubt it because Lebron has still been getting his usual regular season 35 minutes and mostly able to keep himself as a facilitator not even going more than 20 shots or holding the ball most of the time while Jamal Murray has been forced to consistently be playing nearly the entire game for the 3rd straight series. Especially looking at LA's last game against the Blazers, it looks like they can definitely take it to a higher gear in terms of effort. If Denver can also turn it up, then game 5 will be very fun to watch.
The Nuggets got the Lakers right where they want em
No team wants to be down 3-1
DarkestMuta123 you must not have been watching the playoffs until now
@@cjdysyeirjn7485 still no team wants to be down 3-1, do you actually think the nuggets would be rather down 3-1 than up ? dont be silly
LOL they planned it from the beginning.
Michael Tamares you mean bandwagon’s team
Lakers vs Heat in the finals is gonna be a great series.
Lakers in 6
Probably be a five game series but i hope ur right
I would love to see the classic Celtics vs Lakers. But yeah Heat vs Lakers would be great, especially with Lebum history with Miami and the coach.
@LaCosa x isnt it a team game? the whole heat won that 2 rings, not just lebron. lebron cant do it without the team, vice versa
Nuggets ain't done
Great Dfense by LBJ on Murray. DH39 aggressive. Tnx Coach for giving DH39 more time on the floor. The team is healthy so, we closing this series and get to the finals.
I love Chuck, he is so oblivious and he just interrupts Shaq without even thinking. I cant blame him though, these guys ALWAYS speak over each other. I cant even understand what they are trying to say because they all speak at the same time
bruh, Lebron being doing what jokic is doing for 17 years plus he's had to defend. Stop with the BS
Jokic isn't black
Sir Trash 😂😂😂
Jokic is not the greatest of all time
Lebron is one of the most phenomenal athlete to ever play sports bro...
Jokic is an average athlete.
Curry has never guard the best pg in any team. Klay does that...
BEEN doing it! And does EVERY year they say he's washed up. Meanwhile, kawhi does it for 3 years (Minus the scoring responsibility in 1), and the media hypes him up to be the best defender since Jordan! Meanwhile, klay Thompson has LITERALLY guarded the best player on the opposing team, held them to waay below their average, and IS STILL averaging more points then kawhi, AND has played in more games, even while missing a whole season with a torn ACL!
The Media LITERALLY can make people beleive ANYTHING!
1, 2, 3 MAMBA 💜💛
Rip Kobe, Gigi and all the other victims of the crash together with them
Why Jared Dudley got that shirt on like he did something
He has 0 points 🤷🤷🤧
Time stamp?
Oh lol I noticed now
ruclips.net/video/hyrA8UaCeGE/видео.html
😭😩
Exactly what I said 😂 might as well come in with a suit.
Kobe is looking down smiling!! Good job Lakers!!
Not only does he have to guard Anthony Davis but he has a bunch of great defenders thrown at him on the other end. That's the issue. And if you don't think he's going to get tired of that after 231 comebacks I don't know what to tell you