Finally getting to play a Demon in a mixed Old World of Darkness game and your vids have been great in helping me understand all the lore. Thanks for all your work!
There’s one question, it might be a whole spoiler to the whole books of the fallen. Probably? But hear me out, Is it true that everything is time loop ? I mean it’s more as a whole cycle? Life itself with death and finally rebirth?
This is new to me. Was God’s Plan from Demon the Cycle from Werewolf? Are the Angels just a special kind of Fomori? I like to see where the games connect.
Basically the player characters aka the Demons/Fallen are pseudo-immortal due their celestial/angelic origins and when one's host body is killed or destroyed that Demon/Fallen will be sent back to the Abyss for a while unless he/she can find a new host body to possess and if sent back to the Abyss the Demon/Fallen will return after some time in the Abyss and possess a new host body though said Demon/Fallen will still feel a sort of psychic pain upon the "death of the original host body", and this will keep happening each time a Demon/Fallen is sent back to the Abyss and comes back later to possess a new host body. There is only two ways that a Demon/Fallen can be permanently killed and that is by either a spell or celestial/divine artifact that can "unmake" a Demon/Fallen, or if said Demon/Fallen has his/her Essence/Soul consumed by an enemy Demon/Fallen.
The fallen should had tried to get some mages in the mix of their mortals. Garou if those guys were around. I'm just saying Lucy didn't seem to be that good at troop management (not bringing up the nephlim or laham, because I legit think they couldn't have come up with that)
Proto-Garou were named Malhim and were created to destroy the rebels. And one could argue that proto-Mages were created by the weird experiments of the Silver Legion. But as usual, Storyteller choice when it comes to mixing the systems.
I agree that that risk is there, especially in the base game. It gets better with the player's handbook and customising a demon's form. Also, it helps that many of the Fallen don't look "angelic" as such but like elemental or animalistic creatures. But when I adapted the rules and setting for NWoD, I definitely toned down explicitly Christian connotations. Instead, some Fallen see themselves as deities from other pantheons - after all, many pantheons still have a central deity or creator, and I determined that the Fallens' multi-dimensional memories are accessed through a lens of mortal memories, so even if a Fallen now incarnated in a Christian and another incarnated in a Hindu knew each other before the Abyss, their memories of the same events will still differ now.
@@juliagoodwin9510 Basically with navigating the Theological Minefield you have to occasionally have to reference things in the Judeo-Christian faith, and focus primarily on the more supernatural aspect of playing as a Demon. Though you have to be careful with the theological references brought up this depends on how your players feel about said theological references.
Demon: God has long left the building and everything you cared for and wanted to save has become corrupted and broken.
Finally getting to play a Demon in a mixed Old World of Darkness game and your vids have been great in helping me understand all the lore. Thanks for all your work!
There’s one question, it might be a whole spoiler to the whole books of the fallen. Probably?
But hear me out,
Is it true that everything is time loop ? I mean it’s more as a whole cycle? Life itself with death and finally rebirth?
This is new to me. Was God’s Plan from Demon the Cycle from Werewolf? Are the Angels just a special kind of Fomori?
I like to see where the games connect.
I see some connections with Exalted as well.
Basically the player characters aka the Demons/Fallen are pseudo-immortal due their celestial/angelic origins and when one's host body is killed or destroyed that Demon/Fallen will be sent back to the Abyss for a while unless he/she can find a new host body to possess and if sent back to the Abyss the Demon/Fallen will return after some time in the Abyss and possess a new host body though said Demon/Fallen will still feel a sort of psychic pain upon the "death of the original host body", and this will keep happening each time a Demon/Fallen is sent back to the Abyss and comes back later to possess a new host body.
There is only two ways that a Demon/Fallen can be permanently killed and that is by either a spell or celestial/divine artifact that can "unmake" a Demon/Fallen, or if said Demon/Fallen has his/her Essence/Soul consumed by an enemy Demon/Fallen.
I really like Demon. I really hope that someday we get a new edition
Same as so far this is the only title to not get a 20th Anniversary Edition or a 5th Edition.
*"God has left the server"*: The game
This game needed more years and more publications.
I wonder what Demons think about Gaia, The Weaver, and the Wyrm.
The fallen should had tried to get some mages in the mix of their mortals. Garou if those guys were around. I'm just saying Lucy didn't seem to be that good at troop management (not bringing up the nephlim or laham, because I legit think they couldn't have come up with that)
Neither mages nor Garou existed at that time unfortunately.
Proto-Garou were named Malhim and were created to destroy the rebels.
And one could argue that proto-Mages were created by the weird experiments of the Silver Legion. But as usual, Storyteller choice when it comes to mixing the systems.
As much as I would like to try this game, I can't help but feel it's a bit of a theological minefield...
I agree that that risk is there, especially in the base game. It gets better with the player's handbook and customising a demon's form. Also, it helps that many of the Fallen don't look "angelic" as such but like elemental or animalistic creatures.
But when I adapted the rules and setting for NWoD, I definitely toned down explicitly Christian connotations. Instead, some Fallen see themselves as deities from other pantheons - after all, many pantheons still have a central deity or creator, and I determined that the Fallens' multi-dimensional memories are accessed through a lens of mortal memories, so even if a Fallen now incarnated in a Christian and another incarnated in a Hindu knew each other before the Abyss, their memories of the same events will still differ now.
You says what I wanted to say but also better
Yes it can be. But I managed to get around it though it takes some work
@@derrickhaggard Cool, any details?
@@juliagoodwin9510 Basically with navigating the Theological Minefield you have to occasionally have to reference things in the Judeo-Christian faith, and focus primarily on the more supernatural aspect of playing as a Demon. Though you have to be careful with the theological references brought up this depends on how your players feel about said theological references.