@Oldskol Acura My first SHO 1991 had that set up. The problem with that car was the design of the Brakes. I remember them catching on fire 🔥 more than once.
Well you’re probably beating the ones who have N/A engines and not turbo or supercharge, the only thing helping that ugly azz car move are the turbos. Any factory turbo can beat a n/a car stock vs stock. Just like my bmw n54 which is older 09 can beat that sho and if we go tune for tune that race wont even be close.
@@fel1xxfel1xx60 Exactly ... I put a turbo on my 3cyl pontiac firefly ... corvettes don't stand a chance now. Does your BMW have a turbo? If not my firely can beat the shit of that too ... plus my dad can beat up your dad. Great comment bro, I hear ya.
I had two 90's sho, one auto one standard. Landed my first one which was burgundy when I was 20 and had no idea what I bought. The second one was silver, and it was standard. I swapped the plastics from the Burgundy one with the silver one, car looked pretty bad ass, I miss them. All the cars I've had over the years, I've had the most fun with them. Great video guys, nice rides
To me it doesn't matter how fast these cars are my friend had an 89 in perfect condition and it was stock with just an exhaust setup and every time he dropped it it brought smiles
Had a stock 94 SHO, miss it greatly! I wasn't taking on vettes but it was a very fun car to own in my youth! It was a fun sleeper, nobody knew what it could do. The only race I was in I smoked a 97 Grand Prix GT. Wasn't even close. Like I said, fun car!
Today I was at the light and a corvette 2020 was next to my 2018 ford tarus we both took off at the light and i gapped him for a good min but he eventually caught up
I dig the SHO Taurus. My friend borrowed one from his cousin when we just got our licenses. He toasted the clutch and we were stranded 20 miles from home in brutally cold February weather. I miss those days. Great cars in the video!
3.2 V6. Forged pistons and the turbo, only other mods included EH intake/BBB's. Of course, to support the turbo it needed a fuel system and tuning hardware/software. I also had susp/brakes upgrades.
@IrishChris1979 - Thanks Chris. Yeah, I do not plan on coming out to LI anytime soon, nor do my cars see any street time anymore. I do plan on taking my latest turbo SHO to the track this fall, so we can compare. I have no doubt my trap speeds will be well in to the 120's, but I doubt I will run much quicker than high 11's.
By far one of the better put together car videos on the net. Perfect song choice, great lighting, great timing, nice uncluttered graphics. Well done. Whether you like the vehicles highlighted or not, gotta respect the art.
At the time, I believe that car had 9:1 forged pistons on an overbore (3.2L), with EH intake and BBB's. Of course, a fuel system to support the mods, chip tune, and the T3/4 turbo. It is long gone, the shell got scrapped, and the drivetrain sold off. The new project is a good 100+whp more powerful in a much lighter car.
I remeber the first time I drove an 89 SHO, what a car... It makes me sad to think about the 95 I passed up back in 1998... Oh well... At least you guys are still having fun with them!
Now a days, us SVT Contour guys are dropping in 3L duratecs in place of the 2.5. Its good for about a 20-30whp gain. Mine made 195whp and 182tq, which is about the same power they made at the crank new with the 2.5. I just threw headers on and i still need to get it tuned. I'm looking for a little over 220whp. They're fun cars. I've aways wanted an SHO, and i was looking at them when i was looking or a car. I just so happened to stumble over my 3L Contour and fell in love with that even more.
What are you talking about, can't you see the Vette won! :D Yeah, I wish we had started at just a bit higher speed, so I could have been a little higher up my HP curve. But with the Vette starting in 2nd gear, it actually made the race a little more interesting, since he got a little bit out in front and then I got to reel him in!
@gooderman13 - the 392hp is what the Vette made to the wheels on a dyno. Figuring in the drivetrain loss inherent in all vehicles, it is making almost exactly the 450 advertised crank hp.
@steve1300 Well I had a 89 Sable with the 3.0 Vulcan motor and was able to modd a turbo on to it. Those 3.0's can take the same injectors / pistons / rods as the 5.0 V8 ford motor, and a few other parts. Anyway the turbo was from Mazda & had to do all custom piping for the manifold & intake. Also had to set up the motor for low compression. At it's peak, I could run 13.8's in the 1/4 mile, and the body fell apart before the motor. As far as i know the motor is running in a sand buggie now.
Wow, I remember when I was asked to host this video waaaay long ago by the owner of that SHO. The hay day of SHOforum. I miss my gen 2. What’s funny is after that car I had a gen 2 Lightning. Definitely NOT a good vehicle on a roll, but the SHO is/was. So that Lightning was doomed from the start.
@leschampagnes1 - again, we are talking about WHEEL hp/tq and CRANK hp/tq figures. All power figures listed for the turbo 6 are at the WHEEL. So yes, I think the Vette has less than 412ft lbs AT THE WHEELS. I don't need to think I know better as far as the outcome of this run, I DO know better as I was there and experienced it firsthand. I am not claiming fwd to be better than rwd, that is stupid, but in a roll-on race where traction is not an issue, fwd has no disadvantage.
@rockstardrinker95 - His shifts are quick and clean. Wheelspin was not an issue. Considering the Taurus was trapping 115+mph, there is no driver in the world that could manage to put 5 lengths on it while driving this particular corvette.
I don't know what your turbo SHO runs in the 1/4 mile but... I'd love to race you from a roll in my modded C6 just for fun. No money or anything like that. I live on Long Island though so that would be tough. I ran 11.84 @ 123.51 the last time I was at the track. My mods are listed in my channel. I need to buy a video camera so I can make some videos of my car. I'm always watching vids...Now I need to start making them. Anyway, nice SHO and great video man. That thing's a beast!! Later
That may be true when launching from a stand still but the question is why it would matter at all when the vehicles are already in motion. It's not as if the onset of power is enough to lift the front wheels from the ground and effect traction.
no it is not only when launching from a stand still....hit the gas at 30 or 40 or 50 it still shifts the weight towards the rear and is beneficial to rwd and not to fwd
It all depends on what you would like to do with the car. The car in the video, it has recieved numerous upgrades since then, and is for sale right now. Go to shoforumdotcom to find the ad.
How do you figure? I was clearly pulling past the Vette when I let off. Doesn't make me feel big to tell the truth. If it makes you feel big to doubt it, that's cool
Could you imagine in the 90s when these came out and. People were getting smoked by these things and pissed off they got just got beat by a Taurus !!!!
@sswainable WI is a ways from OK. That car (the turbo) is long gone. The replacement is long gone. The latest iteration is not exactly street legal, is about 800lbs lighter, and will be nearly doubling the boost pressure. But if I ever end up near Madison, I would be up for a run!
@turbotoolman I watched the same one you are watching, "bud." Usually there is not an option on RUclips of watching one video and commenting on another. Only thing is I watched this over 8 months ago and made the correct observation at that time. Have a nice life.
Where the hell did ya'll find a transmission strong enough to handle that turbo? I remember those transmissions used shit the bed real quick if you ragged them out.
@BeerBrewin yup it's all about the gearing on those vette's , Chevy made them to punch from 0-100 but after that that SHO's top end was just too much :P
I used to have an SVT Contour back in the day. A friend of mine had an SHO...Both of our cars were 5 speed manuals. We used to have a blast going on cruises, racing around, going to the track ect ect... Stock for stock the SHO was slightly quicker than my SVT. It was really close though. Whoever got the jump, usually won in the 1/4 mile. For what they are, both cars are really quick and extremely fun to drive. My SVT was a '98.5 and his SHO was a '93 by the way. I miss those days.
We are not talking about traction. Les is claiming that it actually takes more ENERGY to move an object via pulling versus pushing. Amtrak does not agree.
@leschampagnes1 - The Vette had less WHEEL hp, as the 450 is an estimated crank hp figure. Also, the turbo 6 is making more TQ than the Vette. Similar mass, gearing and c/d, so it really comes down to power under the curve. Comparing dyno sheets, the turbo 6 simply has a more favorable power curve, and therefore accelerates faster. Basic physics.
@leschampagnes1 - You got me there man, that is some dang solid reasoning, you must have lots of that fancy enjuneering edukation. So let me guess, you put your boat trailer at the front of your truck, cause it takes less energy to push it eh?
@LT1HILLINGHOE - not sure which vid you are watching there bud, but in the one the one where I am racing the Vette, the Vette was getting walked. Care to tell me how it is that the vette won in your mind?
@steve1300 You have to have one custom built. I am currently working on my third turbocharged SHO, it will be quite a bit more potent than the one in this vid.
Guess it's hard to tell with the audio being removed. The SHO pulls steadily on the Vette until the SHO shuts it down. The Vette lost. Pretty easy to do the math. The SHO puts down 430HP at the wheels. The Vette makes 450HP but that's at the flywheel. Assuming about a 18% drivetrain loss, that Vette is making about 369HP at the wheels. Even with a weight advantage over the SHO, the Vette is still making significantly less power and it's able to take the SHO.
Indeed. It was stout for the time. When we first raced in Tulsa a year or so earlier he was demolished, and that is what led to some modifications on his part. It was much closer this time.
@TransAmFTW haha sorry bud but your mistaken, in a RWD car, the advantage is that the more torque you put down (harder you accelerate) the more the weight (center of gravity) shifts towards the rear of the car, henceforth the more weight over the rear tires which are getting power the more traction you have, it's a domino effect, the harder your throttle the better your traction in your rear tires get, weight over the tires transferring power to the ground means less energy (power) lost
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being one of the first ever supercharged SHO's this is a classic and well done video ..... still great to watch !!
I love my 2015 SHO, she makers fools of the young boys in their Rice burners. They can’t believe an old man over 60 blows their doors off.
@Oldskol Acura My first SHO 1991 had that set up. The problem with that car was the design of the Brakes. I remember them catching on fire 🔥 more than once.
Well you’re probably beating the ones who have N/A engines and not turbo or supercharge, the only thing helping that ugly azz car move are the turbos.
Any factory turbo can beat a n/a car stock vs stock.
Just like my bmw n54 which is older 09 can beat that sho and if we go tune for tune that race wont even be close.
@@fel1xxfel1xx60 Exactly ... I put a turbo on my 3cyl pontiac firefly ... corvettes don't stand a chance now. Does your BMW have a turbo? If not my firely can beat the shit of that too ... plus my dad can beat up your dad. Great comment bro, I hear ya.
@@fel1xxfel1xx60You’ll also blow your wallet in repairs with the N54 😉
can we hear the engine and not the music please.
I love sleepers, something everyone assumes is slow, till they race you, good job guys :)
I had two 90's sho, one auto one standard. Landed my first one which was burgundy when I was 20 and had no idea what I bought. The second one was silver, and it was standard. I swapped the plastics from the Burgundy one with the silver one, car looked pretty bad ass, I miss them. All the cars I've had over the years, I've had the most fun with them. Great video guys, nice rides
To me it doesn't matter how fast these cars are my friend had an 89 in perfect condition and it was stock with just an exhaust setup and every time he dropped it it brought smiles
Had a 98 3.4 v8... I so miss that car
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Had a stock 94 SHO, miss it greatly! I wasn't taking on vettes but it was a very fun car to own in my youth! It was a fun sleeper, nobody knew what it could do. The only race I was in I smoked a 97 Grand Prix GT. Wasn't even close. Like I said, fun car!
this was 14 years ago and these sho's would still take on most today
Today I was at the light and a corvette 2020 was next to my 2018 ford tarus we both took off at the light and i gapped him for a good min but he eventually caught up
I dig the SHO Taurus. My friend borrowed one from his cousin when we just got our licenses. He toasted the clutch and we were stranded 20 miles from home in brutally cold February weather. I miss those days. Great cars in the video!
3.2 V6. Forged pistons and the turbo, only other mods included EH intake/BBB's. Of course, to support the turbo it needed a fuel system and tuning hardware/software. I also had susp/brakes upgrades.
@IrishChris1979 - Thanks Chris. Yeah, I do not plan on coming out to LI anytime soon, nor do my cars see any street time anymore. I do plan on taking my latest turbo SHO to the track this fall, so we can compare. I have no doubt my trap speeds will be well in to the 120's, but I doubt I will run much quicker than high 11's.
sho is a sick sleeper car
SHO's are AWESOME!! Love Tauruses!!!
By far one of the better put together car videos on the net. Perfect song choice, great lighting, great timing, nice uncluttered graphics. Well done. Whether you like the vehicles highlighted or not, gotta respect the art.
love these older SHO! great video!
Me the old one my favorite sho
SHO's shouldn't eat their own.... Plenty of meat to go around.
Hells yes Tim!!!! Thanks again for the shifter. God i love it
At the time, I believe that car had 9:1 forged pistons on an overbore (3.2L), with EH intake and BBB's. Of course, a fuel system to support the mods, chip tune, and the T3/4 turbo. It is long gone, the shell got scrapped, and the drivetrain sold off. The new project is a good 100+whp more powerful in a much lighter car.
hey is your name Zach
2022 STILL LIKING THIS VIDEO LOL
Indeed!
I remeber the first time I drove an 89 SHO, what a car... It makes me sad to think about the 95 I passed up back in 1998... Oh well... At least you guys are still having fun with them!
i cant believe that thing beat a corvette. you have one impressive car!
Haven't heard this song since I was in high school, lol. Forgot about these guys. Nice cars. I want to race you in my Mach 1.
Let’s do it!
Now a days, us SVT Contour guys are dropping in 3L duratecs in place of the 2.5. Its good for about a 20-30whp gain. Mine made 195whp and 182tq, which is about the same power they made at the crank new with the 2.5. I just threw headers on and i still need to get it tuned. I'm looking for a little over 220whp. They're fun cars. I've aways wanted an SHO, and i was looking at them when i was looking or a car. I just so happened to stumble over my 3L Contour and fell in love with that even more.
What are you talking about, can't you see the Vette won! :D Yeah, I wish we had started at just a bit higher speed, so I could have been a little higher up my HP curve. But with the Vette starting in 2nd gear, it actually made the race a little more interesting, since he got a little bit out in front and then I got to reel him in!
2019 and this is in my reccomend??😂
Yeah, it’s a classic!
Nice! The SHO is definitely a good choice grocery getter sleeper!
@gooderman13 - the 392hp is what the Vette made to the wheels on a dyno. Figuring in the drivetrain loss inherent in all vehicles, it is making almost exactly the 450 advertised crank hp.
@orbitofdoom16 - 1988 called, they want their mullet back.
Howdy Toolman,
I must have watched this video a 1000 times. It rocks! As for smoking the vette....(buskeadam) Of course he smoked it fool!!!!
My 1991 SHO what a mustan eater it was 👌👌
@steve1300 Well I had a 89 Sable with the 3.0 Vulcan motor and was able to modd a turbo on to it. Those 3.0's can take the same injectors / pistons / rods as the 5.0 V8 ford motor, and a few other parts. Anyway the turbo was from Mazda & had to do all custom piping for the manifold & intake. Also had to set up the motor for low compression. At it's peak, I could run 13.8's in the 1/4 mile, and the body fell apart before the motor. As far as i know the motor is running in a sand buggie now.
Just found this gem 15 years later 😂😂😂
Well, this car has always been turbocharged in my years of owing it. Best highway mileage was on my last long road trip, 25.8 averaging 75-80.
thanks for the help man,, its greatly appreciated :]
Torque FTW! Nice job, Toolman.
Boy do I miss my 94 midnight Blue SHO . Makes me wanna find another one .
Owned a 1992 Sho. I would have been 17 at the time and wow it was fun. The burnouts ect.
Wow, I remember when I was asked to host this video waaaay long ago by the owner of that SHO.
The hay day of SHOforum. I miss my gen 2.
What’s funny is after that car I had a gen 2 Lightning. Definitely NOT a good vehicle on a roll, but the SHO is/was. So that Lightning was doomed from the start.
I miss my 95 SHO and I miss the guys in the SHOforums too. Good times. RIP Don Mallinson.
@leschampagnes1 - again, we are talking about WHEEL hp/tq and CRANK hp/tq figures. All power figures listed for the turbo 6 are at the WHEEL. So yes, I think the Vette has less than 412ft lbs AT THE WHEELS. I don't need to think I know better as far as the outcome of this run, I DO know better as I was there and experienced it firsthand. I am not claiming fwd to be better than rwd, that is stupid, but in a roll-on race where traction is not an issue, fwd has no disadvantage.
My first sleeper 😊 pulling next to mustang and camaros like a boss 🤣.
Only a selected few know what the 3rd gear can pull ✌
@rockstardrinker95 - His shifts are quick and clean. Wheelspin was not an issue. Considering the Taurus was trapping 115+mph, there is no driver in the world that could manage to put 5 lengths on it while driving this particular corvette.
I don't know what your turbo SHO runs in the 1/4 mile but... I'd love to race you from a roll in my modded C6 just for fun. No money or anything like that. I live on Long Island though so that would be tough. I ran 11.84 @ 123.51 the last time I was at the track. My mods are listed in my channel. I need to buy a video camera so I can make some videos of my car. I'm always watching vids...Now I need to start making them. Anyway, nice SHO and great video man. That thing's a beast!! Later
Still got the Vette? Or a Vette?
1:42 that's the SHO squat!!!! Things are real!
That may be true when launching from a stand still but the question is why it would matter at all when the vehicles are already in motion. It's not as if the onset of power is enough to lift the front wheels from the ground and effect traction.
The usb unplugged noise took me back
This is why you don't run away from the cops in SHO.
no it is not only when launching from a stand still....hit the gas at 30 or 40 or 50 it still shifts the weight towards the rear and is beneficial to rwd and not to fwd
It all depends on what you would like to do with the car. The car in the video, it has recieved numerous upgrades since then, and is for sale right now. Go to shoforumdotcom to find the ad.
my favorite song of all time!
How do you figure? I was clearly pulling past the Vette when I let off. Doesn't make me feel big to tell the truth. If it makes you feel big to doubt it, that's cool
I really want an old sho. Such an awesome sleeper.
Don't know where you are, but there is a really nice one for sale in Denton, TX on Craigslist. $3,000 for a 3.2L 5 speed and it looks amazing.
im up north
Valon Selimaj ...i know of 1 for sale near syracuse new york
Could you imagine in the 90s when these came out and. People were getting smoked by these things and pissed off they got just got beat by a Taurus !!!!
@@mroberts7519 they are super rare in Canada
Most are trashed
This Taurus was trapping 117 mph, so a 600hp HEAVY Gran Torino it would have easily been able to give good competition.
Great video dude😊
omgggg, i want a svt 3.0L swap contour with a turbo so bad!! i love your car dude holy shit
Good luck finding any room under the hood.
Just landed an 89 sho 5 speed about to get it running again
Hmm, no idea on the other two, but mine (the turbo) was around 120k I think.
I have a 95 taurus gl and was thinking about putting a supercharger on it
It's amazing what digital animation can do these days............
Why does toolman's SHO have so much more torque than the other two?
Awesome video. Very cool cars!!!!
Just saw this vid Toolman, I know who you are Bro! :) Is that the car I rode in by the lake?
@sswainable
WI is a ways from OK. That car (the turbo) is long gone. The replacement is long gone. The latest iteration is not exactly street legal, is about 800lbs lighter, and will be nearly doubling the boost pressure. But if I ever end up near Madison, I would be up for a run!
@turbotoolman I watched the same one you are watching, "bud." Usually there is not an option on RUclips of watching one video and commenting on another. Only thing is I watched this over 8 months ago and made the correct observation at that time. Have a nice life.
@turbotoolman uhhh yeah it does...you are still pulling the car instead of pushing it which takes more force
I clicked your ads man...get paid! Also great SHO vid. all day!
@Pre5tig3 Turbos generally add more torque than supercharging like the other SHOs are.
ultimate sleeper, an OG
Where the hell did ya'll find a transmission strong enough to handle that turbo? I remember those transmissions used shit the bed real quick if you ragged them out.
I test drove one to do an alinement on it back in the day and I coudnt believe how fast it was.
crystal method - high roller niiiice
What happened to this car? I can’t believe this is 16 years old!
@ddhemi426 - You are spot on, these SHO's are sleepers.
were they racing i homestly couldnt tell
Are you a dum-dum? Oh wait, I can tell.
The bickering posts aside, I liked it. I just wanna know how ya turbocharged the SHO!?
@BeerBrewin yup it's all about the gearing on those vette's , Chevy made them to punch from 0-100 but after that that SHO's top end was just too much :P
I used to have an SVT Contour back in the day. A friend of mine had an SHO...Both of our cars were 5 speed manuals. We used to have a blast going on cruises, racing around, going to the track ect ect... Stock for stock the SHO was slightly quicker than my SVT. It was really close though. Whoever got the jump, usually won in the 1/4 mile. For what they are, both cars are really quick and extremely fun to drive. My SVT was a '98.5 and his SHO was a '93 by the way. I miss those days.
I still don’t understand why anyone would have bought these ugly ass slow ass cars
We are not talking about traction. Les is claiming that it actually takes more ENERGY to move an object via pulling versus pushing. Amtrak does not agree.
turbotoolman amtraks are all wheel drive and have 150,000 pounds of downwards pushing traction
i was going to buy a sho but instead got a 98 f150 with a mustang engine swap, Should get going good when i get on it
@leschampagnes1 - The Vette had less WHEEL hp, as the 450 is an estimated crank hp figure. Also, the turbo 6 is making more TQ than the Vette. Similar mass, gearing and c/d, so it really comes down to power under the curve. Comparing dyno sheets, the turbo 6 simply has a more favorable power curve, and therefore accelerates faster. Basic physics.
@leschampagnes1 - You got me there man, that is some dang solid reasoning, you must have lots of that fancy enjuneering edukation. So let me guess, you put your boat trailer at the front of your truck, cause it takes less energy to push it eh?
@LT1HILLINGHOE - not sure which vid you are watching there bud, but in the one the one where I am racing the Vette, the Vette was getting walked. Care to tell me how it is that the vette won in your mind?
Classic RUclips video ;-)
I want to build one now
k thanks man.. and since there virtually the same car,. you think the hood will fit right?
@steve1300
You have to have one custom built. I am currently working on my third turbocharged SHO, it will be quite a bit more potent than the one in this vid.
the real SHO bro
My Duratec currently has 182,000 and still going strong!
I wish I had a SHO.
Seemed to shift plenty quick enough to me. Would not have mattered. I simply have more power under the curve.
the ultimate sleeper!!!!
You got the Vette.
Guess it's hard to tell with the audio being removed. The SHO pulls steadily on the Vette until the SHO shuts it down. The Vette lost.
Pretty easy to do the math. The SHO puts down 430HP at the wheels. The Vette makes 450HP but that's at the flywheel. Assuming about a 18% drivetrain loss, that Vette is making about 369HP at the wheels. Even with a weight advantage over the SHO, the Vette is still making significantly less power and it's able to take the SHO.
hey thanks for the reply. the only thing is that i have a 1993 mercury sable. which is the same thing as a taurus.. but is that a website or a store?
the best thing about the sho is the engine.
yamaha baby those cars got yamahammered
Yeah not seeing where it beat the C5 with the basically stock Ls6. The race kind of just stopped mid stride.
We were going 120 and I was pulling away, slowed for the car in my lane. Pretty straightforward.
That Vette held its own for NA and was pulling for a bit 🙂
Indeed. It was stout for the time. When we first raced in Tulsa a year or so earlier he was demolished, and that is what led to some modifications on his part. It was much closer this time.
thats why they are still used today right..
@TransAmFTW haha sorry bud but your mistaken, in a RWD car, the advantage is that the more torque you put down (harder you accelerate) the more the weight (center of gravity) shifts towards the rear of the car, henceforth the more weight over the rear tires which are getting power the more traction you have, it's a domino effect, the harder your throttle the better your traction in your rear tires get, weight over the tires transferring power to the ground means less energy (power) lost