I m inspired by his speech and his way of determination. People misunderstand him and pass on judgement. I salute him for his contribution to the Tibetan Politics.He has broaden the meaning of the word Democracy. I appreciate all his supporter .Salute to Lakar & his Fan Bhu Gyalo
Our society is long way to go real democracy. most of the people are still not understand or means we are not reach 21st,century democracy! I been in Dharamsala almost 28 years and most of the point what you said was true!
Lukar Jam could be the change if he talk Rangzen and lay down his plan for Rangzen. May be he could win. But he choose to Trash talk to tibetans mixing Rangzen + Democracy inproper way for express his view. He followed (Rangzen sologan Gangs WHO TALKS DO NOTHING TO GAIN RANGZEN) Food STEPs of them and result we see him in menisotta same as Those people Did on TYC Stage. ( Some people told me they wrote the books for rangzen and win awards. ..... that is wonderful, but please explain to Tibetans, how could you get Rangzen just by writing books?) IF LUKAR really wants fight for Tibet Independent. Tell us how can Lukar fight to CCP, Economically, Industrially, Millitary..IN Reallty what is exile goverment Economic, Industries, millitary, condition Even TAIWAN is billion times better than us IF they Can't declare Independent How could we do it. Don't we deserve any explanation From Lukar and his group.. HOW? HOW..........? HOW? AS A TIBETAN NICE TO HEAR LUKAR JAM AND HIS GROUP'S RANGZEN VOICE ....IN PRACTICALLY I CAN'T DEGIST IT. SO EVENTHOUGH I LIKE SOLOGON I DON'T BUY IT....HOW THEY CAN DO IT. THAT IS A BIG QUESTION . If LUKAR accumulate all the right causes for Rangzen nobody can Stop,EVEN Dalai Lama and Exile Goverment. In Action you have only big mouth...... good luck for YOUR IMAGINATION
+Thupten Phun I hope you agree that Rangzen has lot of cause and conditions. IF we shout Rangzen around the world write some articles will they bring us Rangzen????? is it possible
20 yrs later if we get autonomy but Tibetan living outside couldn't get visa to go there because it's part of China. Then Tibetan would blames Dalai Lama for not seeking independence u would say it's majority decision not Dalai Lama , right?
we are worrying for survive of tibetans culture and identity you are talking about visas after 20 years tibetan blame dalai lama for what reason? did dalai lama force to you people ever not to get Rangzen? If you have ability China is there.who took Rangzen from tibetans. dalai lama is one of us who run away from tibet
+Thupten Phun if you want to do something better for tibetans in tibet using Rangzen policies I welcome you i wanted to hear about your;s plan for Rangzen.BUT IF YOU PROPOGATE HATE WORD AND THEART TO DALAI LAMA LIKE LUKAR JAM DID........YOU HAVE TO THINK WELL.TIBETAN EXILE GOVERMENT DONT FIGHT FOR RANGZEN WE SUPPORT THAT AND IT IS A MOJORITY DESITION AS WE FOLLOW DEMOCRACY YOU MUST LEARN TO RESPECT THAT, EVEN YOU DONT AGREE WITH IT. THATS THE BEAUTY OF DEMOCRACY
there is only allegation for lukar . its becouse of CTA doesnt give enough transparency about tibet political issue thats why people had only allegation
LET ME TELL YOU THIS. LUKAR JAM AND PEOPLE LIKE JAMGYANG NORBU DO NOT RESPECT DEMOCRACY BECAUSE THEY DON'T ACCEPT MAJORITY'S STAND FOR OUR STRUGLE...WHICH IS MIDDLE WAY AND CHETHUE VOTED "ALL YES'''''''' IF YOU AGREE WITH THESE PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY.,,,DEMOCRACY HOPE YOU ALL EDUCATED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN..
+Karma Dondup Democracy doesn't mean just Majority... Democracy doesn't mean irresponsible talk regardless of community stands forIf you think You are Using Democracy to bring down tibetan suffering ....you have to know who make them suffer DALAI LAMA OR CHINA If you think dalai lama made all the tibetan suffering after 1959 chinese invasion go head and protest to him and support those people....Like Lukar JamIf you think Chinese goverment did Please Fight to CCP I stand behind you!!!!!
Thupten la, now you are saying, "Democracy doesn't mean just Majority", whereas in your previous post, you said, Lukar Jam and Jamyang Norbu are "not accepting Majority". Either you made a mistake or I don't understand the concept of Logic. Did I say above that, "dalai lama made all the tibetan suffering"? Have I made any reference to His Holiness? I don't think so. Again either you are erecting straw-man argument or I've gone blind and senile. Thupten la, can't a Tibetan love His Holiness and also disagree with him on some issues?
+Karma Dondup I was coding from your title "democracy deesnt mean just majority" not saying it, sorry of my typing mistake.Hi Karma la;;; If Jamyang Norbu and Lukar jam accepting Majority. They should know MIddle way was supported more than 60% of Tibetan People.If this % is not outcome of Dalai Lama's suggestion Middle Way is worthless. That is the reason THEY aren't accepting MajorityI didn't say you said it The people which you support Like Lukar who is fighting Rangzen against Dalai Lama and exile goverment rather then CCP it seems to me that, IN THE EYES OF LUKAR JAM'S DALAI LAMA MADE ALL THE TIBETAN SUFFERING AND TOOK RANGZEN FROM TIBETANS, THEY are fighting Rangzen against exile-gov and dalai lama and you are one of those supporter......if you dont think so please review yourself.otherwise CHINA SHOULD be the ONLY TARGET for Rangzenand fight against CHINAwhich they may gain more support even exile-goverment stand is middle way their work is really for tibetMiddle way for TIBETRangzen for TIBETOUR AIM HAS TO BE SAME ALL THE LEADERS HAS TO WORK TO TIBET ALL LEADERS DON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR mIDDLE WAY OR rANGZENMIDDLE WAY IS NOT OUR AIM RANGZEN IS NOT OUR AIM they are just two tools which we are talking about
Thupten la, you worry too much man. Let me assure you that no Rangzen leader will ever sit in the Sikyong chair in your life time. That is precisely why Dharamsala erected a fake Election Commission, so they can arbitrarily manipulate Tibetan democracy to benefit the umay lame status quo. So the Umay lamers won last time, chosen by the Majority, yet oddly, the winners couldn't even secure one puny dialogue with Beijing. Now they win again, to rule for another 5 years: in which time, we may not see any dialogue taking place again. It seems Umay Lame leadership don't have to achieve anything tangible vis-a-vis the Tibetan people in Tibet, in order to enjoy their privileges as politicians. Just as long as the Middleway elites attack the harried minorities in our own communities every once in a while, the democracy loving Majority will accept such methods good enough reason to keep them in power. I personally have no issues if Umay lames win, (they have some good points) as long as things are done fair and square; genuinely respecting all facets of the democratic process.
I m inspired by his speech and his way of determination. People misunderstand him and pass on judgement.
I salute him for his contribution to the Tibetan Politics.He has broaden the meaning of the word Democracy.
I appreciate all his supporter .Salute to Lakar & his Fan
Bhu Gyalo
+Choenyi Dolma GOOD FOR YOU I WILL GIVE YOU; 10 MILLIONS DOLLARS ........HOPE YOU WILL INSPIRED MY WORD TOO
Our society is long way to go real democracy. most of the people are still not understand or means we are not reach 21st,century democracy! I been in Dharamsala almost 28 years and most of the point what you said was true!
Lukar stay strong. Please don't change who u r lukar jam.. I'm pretty sure haters will. He have all the legit point.
+Jimmy La Lukar Jam 2016
Lukar Jam Gyal lo !!! You are special one. Very good in politic !
Most suitable Sikyong for Tibet and long life Lukar's determination.
Perfect leader
What's up with the dislike? Lukar Jam is for change. Finally a new outlook on an old problem!
Lukar Jam could be the change if he talk Rangzen and lay down his plan for Rangzen. May be he could win. But he choose to Trash talk to tibetans mixing Rangzen + Democracy inproper way for express his view. He followed (Rangzen sologan Gangs WHO TALKS DO NOTHING TO GAIN RANGZEN) Food STEPs of them and result we see him in menisotta same as Those people Did on TYC Stage. ( Some people told me they wrote the books for rangzen and win awards. ..... that is wonderful, but please explain to Tibetans, how could you get Rangzen just by writing books?) IF LUKAR really wants fight for Tibet Independent. Tell us how can Lukar fight to CCP, Economically, Industrially, Millitary..IN Reallty what is exile goverment Economic, Industries, millitary, condition Even TAIWAN is billion times better than us IF they Can't declare Independent How could we do it. Don't we deserve any explanation From Lukar and his group.. HOW? HOW..........? HOW? AS A TIBETAN NICE TO HEAR LUKAR JAM AND HIS GROUP'S RANGZEN VOICE ....IN PRACTICALLY I CAN'T DEGIST IT. SO EVENTHOUGH I LIKE SOLOGON I DON'T BUY IT....HOW THEY CAN DO IT. THAT IS A BIG QUESTION . If LUKAR accumulate all the right causes for Rangzen nobody can Stop,EVEN Dalai Lama and Exile Goverment. In Action you have only big mouth...... good luck for YOUR IMAGINATION
+Thupten Phun I would like to hear (NEW OUT LOOK ON OLD PROBLEM) can you please EXPLAIN to US. What is the old Problem?
+Thupten Phun The old problem is working with the Chinese for a middle way or autonomy. Lukar Jam is advocating for RANGZEN.
+MrChemayshola How can Lukar do it. without working with chinese. If you know how would he work Please tell me in detail. Thank you Bro
+Thupten Phun I hope you agree that Rangzen has lot of cause and conditions. IF we shout Rangzen around the world write some articles will they bring us Rangzen????? is it possible
Mr.Rongpo/Rengo you are 100% right.
Tibet must be free
Not lending Tsok khang is on that day majority decision not dalai lama's..you saw the majority decision
+Thupten Phun Wow, you so proud of the the fact that you sowed some seeds of discord for future.
+Tashi Delek I did't understand what you mean
20 yrs later if we get autonomy but Tibetan living outside couldn't get visa to go there because it's part of China. Then Tibetan would blames Dalai Lama for not seeking independence u would say it's majority decision not Dalai Lama , right?
we are worrying for survive of tibetans culture and identity
you are talking about visas
after 20 years tibetan blame dalai lama for what reason?
did dalai lama force to you people ever not to get Rangzen?
If you have ability China is there.who took Rangzen from tibetans. dalai lama is one of us who run away from tibet
+Thupten Phun if you want to do something better for tibetans in tibet using Rangzen policies I welcome you i wanted to hear about your;s plan for Rangzen.BUT IF YOU PROPOGATE HATE WORD AND THEART TO DALAI LAMA LIKE LUKAR JAM DID........YOU HAVE TO THINK WELL.TIBETAN EXILE GOVERMENT DONT FIGHT FOR RANGZEN WE SUPPORT THAT AND IT IS A MOJORITY DESITION AS WE FOLLOW DEMOCRACY YOU MUST LEARN TO RESPECT THAT, EVEN YOU DONT AGREE WITH IT. THATS THE BEAUTY OF DEMOCRACY
watch tibetonline.comTittle Kalon tripa in Herbertpur
there is only allegation for lukar . its becouse of CTA doesnt give enough transparency about tibet political issue thats why people had only allegation
big mouth...
R u mad
LET ME TELL YOU THIS. LUKAR JAM AND PEOPLE LIKE JAMGYANG NORBU DO NOT RESPECT DEMOCRACY BECAUSE THEY DON'T ACCEPT MAJORITY'S STAND FOR OUR STRUGLE...WHICH IS MIDDLE WAY AND CHETHUE VOTED "ALL YES'''''''' IF YOU AGREE WITH THESE PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY.,,,DEMOCRACY HOPE YOU ALL EDUCATED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN..
Democracy does not mean just majority rule, for without the majority respecting minority views, that majority is nothing more than tyranny.
+Karma Dondup Democracy doesn't mean just Majority... Democracy doesn't mean irresponsible talk regardless of community stands forIf you think You are Using Democracy to bring down tibetan suffering ....you have to know who make them suffer DALAI LAMA OR CHINA If you think dalai lama made all the tibetan suffering after 1959 chinese invasion go head and protest to him and support those people....Like Lukar JamIf you think Chinese goverment did Please Fight to CCP I stand behind you!!!!!
Thupten la, now you are saying, "Democracy doesn't mean just Majority", whereas in your previous post, you said, Lukar Jam and Jamyang Norbu are "not accepting Majority". Either you made a mistake or I don't understand the concept of Logic. Did I say above that, "dalai lama made all the tibetan suffering"? Have I made any reference to His Holiness? I don't think so. Again either you are erecting straw-man argument or I've gone blind and senile.
Thupten la, can't a Tibetan love His Holiness and also disagree with him on some issues?
+Karma Dondup I was coding from your title "democracy deesnt mean just majority" not saying it, sorry of my typing mistake.Hi Karma la;;; If Jamyang Norbu and Lukar jam accepting Majority. They should know MIddle way was supported more than 60% of Tibetan People.If this % is not outcome of Dalai Lama's suggestion Middle Way is worthless. That is the reason THEY aren't accepting MajorityI didn't say you said it The people which you support Like Lukar who is fighting Rangzen against Dalai Lama and exile goverment rather then CCP it seems to me that, IN THE EYES OF LUKAR JAM'S DALAI LAMA MADE ALL THE TIBETAN SUFFERING AND TOOK RANGZEN FROM TIBETANS, THEY are fighting Rangzen against exile-gov and dalai lama and you are one of those supporter......if you dont think so please review yourself.otherwise CHINA SHOULD be the ONLY TARGET for Rangzenand fight against CHINAwhich they may gain more support even exile-goverment stand is middle way their work is really for tibetMiddle way for TIBETRangzen for TIBETOUR AIM HAS TO BE SAME ALL THE LEADERS HAS TO WORK TO TIBET ALL LEADERS DON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR mIDDLE WAY OR rANGZENMIDDLE WAY IS NOT OUR AIM RANGZEN IS NOT OUR AIM they are just two tools which we are talking about
Thupten la, you worry too much man. Let me assure you that no Rangzen leader will ever sit in the Sikyong chair in your life time. That is precisely why Dharamsala erected a fake Election Commission, so they can arbitrarily manipulate Tibetan democracy to benefit the umay lame status quo.
So the Umay lamers won last time, chosen by the Majority, yet oddly, the winners couldn't even secure one puny dialogue with Beijing. Now they win again, to rule for another 5 years: in which time, we may not see any dialogue taking place again. It seems Umay Lame leadership don't have to achieve anything tangible vis-a-vis the Tibetan people in Tibet, in order to enjoy their privileges as politicians. Just as long as the Middleway elites attack the harried minorities in our own communities every once in a while, the democracy loving Majority will accept such methods good enough reason to keep them in power.
I personally have no issues if Umay lames win, (they have some good points) as long as things are done fair and square; genuinely respecting all facets of the democratic process.