Love FL studio, the kind of chaotic "everything can connect to everything else" workflow resonates with me a lot, no mater how often I try to get organized I just end up creating a chaotic mess anyways, so I might as well embrace it and make it my strength. Started messing with the trial when I was a kid, and haven't regretted buying the all plugins edition as an adult even once.
I just love the fact that I can slap patch onto any effect rack, then use math on the fruity formula via the power of sin and pi lol: instant insane Eq effects on leads. Who said that knowing math isn't useful, obviously they don't use Fl studio.
I grew up on FL in '99 and learned basic music production and theory with it. Even though I'm "DAWless" these days and haven't touched FL in 20 years, I still see the step sequencer and piano roll in my brain when composing or even writing songs in a live setting.
U guys should make a hardware version I bet people would love it. I don't use DAWs much but I like u guys. If DAWs were people ur seem the most approachable and chill to hang out with and not be all pretentious. 💪🌙☀️⚡🗿🧙♂️🔮👁️🎄✌️
Hardware Version from grossbeat would be awesome The vocoder that use rxternal soound for vocoding and Something Else to vocoder ist also a STier plugin
They kinda beat you to the punch; they've been working on a (supposedly free) DAW of their own for a while now. Like, legit. It's behringer though, so it might be another two years before it gets released =)
@@ChamiCh If it's anything like the rest of Behringer's product lines, it will be a thin repackaging of an open source DAW with styling to make it look like Logic....
I never really understood some of the hate it received. You can make the same quality of track in any of the major DAWS (Cubase, REAPER, Ableton, Logic, FL, Studio One, Bitwig, etc). Just because someone may not like the workflow, which is understandable, doesn't make it a bad piece of software. Proud member of the FL gang here.
Being an old guy I feel that I can offer a bit of insight regarding the backlash. I believe it originally came from traditional musicians being offended by the way FL was marketed as an “easy” way to make music. When FL was new, most people making music had invested enormous amounts of time and money into the craft and FL was very much presented as a way to circumvent that effort. Even the whimsical name was like a middle finger to seasoned recording artists who came of age doing things the hard way. I am sort of in the middle of all that being an early adopter of software sequencing (I started with Performer on a 512k fat Mac) but still having a deep appreciation for (very) old school music production. Even though I hardly ever used loops or step sequencing, I was often accused of being a “button pusher”back then, which seems weird by todays standards. I am pretty sure the beginnings of the anti FL attitude started all the way back then and has just continued by inertia to some degree, even as the application became more powerful and flexible.
Mpc3000 users complained about the mpc2000 and it was considered a consumer level product by the 3000 people. Of course they all were complaining about FL Studio. I even remember someone saying they could tell 9th Wonder used FL because of the way the drums sounded 😂
I love writing music in FL. It let's you do 1 thing 5 different ways so you are free to make your own workflow. When you first learn it it can be confusing but IMHO it ends up being its greatest strength.
I just said this, almost word for word, to a friend just last night. It’s easily the best thing with FL - almost free form in a how you can approach it.
FL Studio does have a more 'linear mode' (Instrument/Audio Tracks) currently available, which is a little more like other DAWs traditional way of working. And Image-Line have confirmed that they will further develop this in the future, to make FL Studio also easier to use for people who are coming from other DAWs and are more used to that type of workflow. Ultimately, everyone wins. Since, those who prefer FL Studio's non-linear workflows can still continue to use them, while newbies can put the baby stabilisers on the DAW and work strictly in a Linear fashion.
Never used it, I think my (limited) valuation of it has only gone up after this ep. I knew it was an all-rounder DAW, now I know why. Bad Gear isn’t really what the name implies, but it is the only honest review around, pros and cons. Now I want him to do my DAW of choice, Ableton.
As a paranoid schizophrenic producer I feel like I can really relate to this amazing video and it's editing, although I feel you forgot about the most amazing part of FL, the dancing anime girl
Officially a Bad Gear owner now 🥳 FL user of 8 years (turning 9 on 27th). I think every FL user has their own unique way of using it, which in my opinion is one of the best thing about it. Sick jams as always. Merry Christmas!
When i got one of my first placements in 2006, i went to the studio delivering the stems and the engineer said i need to remake the beat with a real daw like cubase. So i just imported the stems in cubase and gave them the cubase project file.
Gaz Williams AND FL Studio??? Merry Christmas indeed! I've been using the DAW for over a decade now, and every time I see someone using the app for the first time they always somehow find a way to do something in it that I've always done a completely different way. It's part of why I love the program, it just gets deeper the more you poke at it. Fun fact! As a teenager I attempted to teach myself the basics of synthesis with Sytrus, which is kind of like trying to learn how to ride a bike by bolting wheels to your face and feet. It did give me a lifelong love of stacked sine waves though! Happy Holidays!
@@AudioPilz Sytrus is fantastic, but as someone's entry point to the world of synthesis it's extremely overwhelming. I would have been much better off learning with something simpler since it put me off of synthesis for years until I picked up a Microfreak a few years back.
@@AudioPilz Specifically, Soundgoodizer A-- probably the most powerful if least subtle one-- can be opened in Maximus. Soundgoodizer itself is based on a very old free plugin, the name of which I forget (I don't know how comparable they are these days, but maybe you can still use that old VST in other DAWs to good effect if you can dig it up!), but Soundgoodizer as it exists now is actually a Mini-Maximus. Minimus, if you will. Consequently, if you open the Soundgoodizer A preset in Maximus, you can see exactly what it's doing with a full breakdown of settings in the various bands, and if you like what it's doing you might tweak it from there, or just study it to replicate some of its qualities elsewhere. Of course, if you really just want all that goodized sound and more in other DAWs for minimal effort, just buy the VST version of Maximus from FL and run it wherever you want.
Free updates for life is a great feeling, my father got me FL 10 Signature edition for my 13th birthday and it's probably the best value gift I've ever received! It's not without its shortcomings, but over a decade later and I still use FL as my main DAW.
This comment would be soo good if it would come from a Producer-Legend. (The type of people you'ld expect to do amazing things with a DAW) But then I read your name and it said "hello jaja" 😅
Hahahaha, nice to hear that FL sound at the end. I'm using FL studio since 2015 after trying a lot of daws. I have to say that FL studio is the most versatile daw that I know. But the best thing next to it's great features is the lifetime free updates! Thanks Image Line for that. Merry Christmas to you, Florian!
That was an amazing episode!!! Love the crossover with Gaz Klaus!! 🎅 What's next...? New Years with Nick "The Batt"? Happy Friday Florian and Frolische Weinachten!! 🎄🎁
My hip-hop producer friend once asked me to help finish a track of his on FL (I'm an Ableton guy). It took me 30 minutes to make a simple sequenced bassline, and I looked like the dad from Mitchells vs. The Machines the whole time.
Been loyal to FL since 2011. Now I find myself channelling Autogun everytime I try to describe a synth. Once you've experienced the delightful sound of warm metallic kittens tweaked by yo mama, it changes you. It's icy, but not entirely claustrophobic.
Indeed Gaz is an absolute legend and this video has just won "Best Damn Editing", "Best use of producer memes" and "Best Synthfluencer video of 2022". Talk about scoring seconds before the end of the game!
I'll always have a soft spot for FL Studio, it got me into producing way back in 2006 or so. It's a solid DAW and always has been, and I think Image Line is an amazing company. I think it's amazing that they offer lifetime free updates. I think it could easily stand as a pro DAW for anyone that cared enough to use it. There's some international top-hits that have been created in FL Studio. I've been a devoted Studio One user for 5 years now, I just find it an overall more professional and intuitive DAW. But I got nothing bad to say about FL.
I use both. For making beats, I massively prefer fl studio, it's just more intuitive for making loop based music imo as it's completely based around patterns. When I want to record though, I go to studio one, it's just so much better for anything like recording a song.
FL is awesome. No real Rules to how to use it, which is bad for user coming from traditional Linear DAW workflows, but amazing for point & click warriors & modular workflow. I would check out Benn Jordan's video on FL Studio 21, which really highlights a bunch of things I love about FLS Edit, nvm you touched on a bunch of things I love about FL, cheers AudioPilz!
They fixed the audio lane in 21. If you turn off typing keyboard to midi, the shortcuts work better, which isnt intuitive or obvious to most users. You could just press C to bring up cut, and set the playlist snapping, and place a playhead to paste at that location. I barely use my ascii board and just jump around on my MPD and LX61. Hope that helps.
Brilliant show, and nice to see you went beyond hardware :-). Pretty impressive what you did there, as usual. Slowly you're going through the list of tools I own, and I love it. I used FL in the early 2000s to experiment. Then work happened and I dropped music for a long time. 20 years later I picked up this hidden passion again, started with a FL license, but I discovered I love DAWless so much more. Or at least the live aspect of it, instead of programming a song in and looking at screens. But you inspired me to pick FL up again and integrate its performance mode into my setup, and use my Mac as an instrument instead of the centerpiece of it all. Please keep on making your videos. You're an inspiration for many people, and you singlehandedly rebooted second hand markets for many tools. Much
I’ve never understood the hate from some quarters for FruityLoops. Especially these days. Best piano roll in the business, great VST support, lifetime updates.
Let me explain about Claw Machine and 3:07 others, Claw Machine is taking up those "midi notes" just like the claw machine does, Quantizer is a tool to "quantize the midi notes" into perfectly put in the bar (usually for recording from midi keyboard), Strummizer is a tool for strumming the midi note just like playing guitar, Articulator is a tool to articulate the length of midi notes, and Score flipper is a tool to flip the whole midi notes.
@@AudioPilz you're most welcome, I was a former user of "demo version" for a long time in purpose making mashups or editing stuffs on that DAW, honestly, I remembered back in pandemic days, Ableton gave a full "lite" experience of their Live and I've mostly using it rather than FL Studio, in terms of usage, you're well said it on the verdict section, glad you enjoyed it anyway 👏
I use FL since 20 Years, i love it. And It works well as a Sequencer with my Hardwaresynths. Thanks for the Episode and Frohe Weihnachten und einen guten Rutscht!!
FL is a DAW that gives the user a LOT of freedom in tackling how to make projects on and I really appreciate it. I never use the step sequencer and generally speaking don't touch the great piano roll much. Most of my work is precisely chopping/placing samples and laying everything out on the playlist and lathering on the FX as I go. I feel like my style and approach to production is a little atypical but FL is the most for me daw out there and I don't think I can move to another daw for fear of my whole world & process/style falling apart lol 🥲 Great vid!
I don't use samples. When i make electronic music, it's all synth based (physical modelling, substractive, fm, etc), including drums, fortunately i have a very beefy CPU for that.
@@saricubra2867 I've dabbled in that but there's a certain flow/feel to really messing with, transforming, and building off samples that I'm very much in love with, so I primarily do music that way now. Respect though!
I started using FL Studio because a friend gave it to me. Before that, I was writing music in Finale NotePad. I've gotten so used to this DAW, I feel there's no reason to switch to something else.
Why?.... I thought Pro-Tools rode off into the sunset and never looked back, must've dreamt it. Oh no, actually, that was me, riding away from the Pro-Tools licensing options, my bad.
My first efforts with electronic music were made possible by FL studio. Downloaded the 3rd version illegally from Kazaa of course, it was fundamental in my development. Creating endless amounts of useless EBM loops while snorting large quantities of cheap, locally sourced crystal meth could sum up my last years in high school. The beginning of the millennium was a wonderful time to be alive.
😂😂😂😂😂😂the end, oh I bet that was alot of fun😉 Gaz is awesome lol. Thankyou Florian for all the fun you have given us this year, and have a wonderful Christmas!
highly appreciate this episode. I started on FL Studio through my brother and found my workflow to thrive between Logic and Bitwig, but you very much sum up what's great about FL in 10 minutes. This is what the 'DAW debates' need more of, not disputes about an audio engine's quality that we all know matches to what logic can provide until we're talking surround sound setups. I love that you even touch on the arp and melody generators in this current world of people paying way too much money of "midi packs"
Your live fruity session was amazing, I'm MIND BLOWN. FL Studio's lifetime free updates, makes it without a doubt, the best value for money DAW on the planet
I finally bought and started using FL Studio earlier this year. I used to really hate it a decade and more ago, but I think with version 20 it became a serious DAW. The window management though, oh god it's painful - there must be a better way of doing it
Yea, been using FL for over a decade now & agree window management is abysmal. You could in the view dropdown menu to set a custom window layout & realign with shift+ctrl+H (on windows, it'd probably cmd on mac) but still isn't the best workaround
And to top off the myriad of windows, you can detach any one window from the main screen, and move it.. To the adjacent 28 inch screen for example! And FL Studio supports up to 8 separate screens! The madness! 😅
That bittersweet feeling when Renoise isn’t even in the memes XD FL is legit simultaneously overpowered and flawed to a beautiful degree like most DAWs. Even I a tracker junkie find myself using FL as a vst. 🧡
FL studio user of 15 years. I have worked professionally in other DAWs such as Ableton, Cubase, Studio One, Reaper, etc, but there's something about FL's open ended workflow that has me coming back. I just love the piano roll and how sandbox-like it is and all the modularity when it comes to creating something. My biggest issue with FL is a feature request can sometimes take years, hell even a decade (been asking for proper audio crossfades for a literal decade). Window management is also a disaster. Great vid!
I tried several DAWs in the past, FL studio being one of them, and I just couldn't wrap my head around any of them so I went back to making my music on trackers, so much easier. The only thing that comes close to using a DAW was when I used to make music on Music 2000 on the PlayStation way back in the late 90's/early 2000's, that and doing audio editing in Audacity.
I've been using it since version 2. I can totally see why it would be off-putting to a new user in its current form, but it's just so damn flexible. Any other DAW I've used felt restrictive to me.
Been using FL Studio for well over a decade. It's a lot different than other DAWs and makes you take time to learn how to streamline your workflow, but the results can end up being some of the best control and fastest work you can get from a DAW. Wouldn't regret the choice to use it in a million years.
FLStudio is the best DAW exist. I worked with different DAWs in past (Boobase, Afletchon, Reaction, Bitfick, Garbage Band...). Most fast workflow are with FLStudio. This the right if you want produce music and not want to find out how to route channels. I use Midi-Controllers and Hardware Synths, and modular Tech. I never had any problems with connection to FLStudio. Everything works fine.
In my opinion, the piano roll in FL is much better in Ableton, as it was probably intended for you to actually draw in the notes as opposed to just do minor editing on recorded MIDI. There's no double clicking to insert a note, no tool changing to delete a note, if you hold Alt, you can change the velocity, you can group the notes with a single shortcut, it seems just made for people like me who have never touched a MIDI keyboard. Oh, and panning around is also easier, albeit accidentally pressing Ctrl while selecting a bunch of notes makes you zoom in a lot and it is irrationally annoying. Over the 8 or 9 years of producing I have gotten pretty good with the [keyboard] keyboard as a MIDI controller and my only gripe with it is that there's no shortcut to transpose the keyboard and no way to change the velocity. I've even found a place where they could have put it, Page Up/Down for the transposing and either the numpad to set the velocity to a percentage of 0 to 90% (or map those keys to go from 0 to 100% in just 9 steps) or Home/End for some% increments. I've also noticed while trying out Ableton that the idle CPU usage was quite a lot higher. I do like Ableton's approach to effects, especially the fact that you're not limited to just 10, but the idea of mixer routing is vastly more intuitive to me. I can arrange stuff in buses in just 2 clicks, assuming I already have the mixer open, which I always do have detached from the main window, on my second screen. That said, with my experience in FL, using Ableton was just as easy, even if it was a bit slower, which is a given. But the UI of both seems to be laid out really nicely and intuitively. Additionally, Max for Live seems more advanced than Patcher and in general, Patcher gets really messy really quickly and it's not really a good way to create a modular synth-like experience, like, there's no envelope generators, mixers that you can actually control the output volume of, or anything, really. You gotta ship it in yourself with VST's. That said, I have a whole lot less experience with Max as opposed to Patcher, so I probably didn't go in far enough to see any real issues with it; I just wanted to play with it for a bit. Thank you for reading a bunch of rambling, I probably gotta go sleep.
Friendly reminder that when writing... always be sure to add spaces; it gives the read an easier time to follow your flow. Also, the space acts as moment to pause and think about what was just read: words exist to convey thoughts and concepts
@@user-qp3qj2jv6f You know, before one reacts with haste and violence: ask for intentions. I genuinely meant this as help. It is actually very hard to read and I figure you want to know this for future endeavors; I am being honest, but as you said, "I am not the issue." Your behaviors on you: indeed, that works both ways. It's just advice, take or leave it.
Amazing episode! I started on FL back in the early early days, did Cubase then been with Ableton since version 3. I have too many bad habits invested in my current setup to unpick them all for a brand new set of worse habits - FL has come on a looooong way though. Great to see that Nick has allowed Gaz out of his cell for the day, what a legend!
Probably one of the best episodes I've watched and as an FL Studio pirate turned Ableton-er, FL was that "weird DAW for teenagers that makes funny music" and yet 10 years later, everybody is on it.
See that's what I don't get .....how was it for teenagers and how did it make "funny" music......I'll never get the things people come up with to bash ANY daw lol.....they're all daws and they make music....period.....people are so bizarre lmao
@@davew6097 it’s all about the associations with certain acts. The only people I followed who used it in 2009 were a group of furries, who often were quite defensive and like “it’s the only one I know how to use, I’ve been using it since 2003”. They’re a lot more chill about it now, but that was definitely the reputation it had in some circles.
That's because FL Studio 5 might have been "that weird, simplistic DAW for teens", but it's definitely not FL5 anymore. Let's just say a LOT of good things happened since then.
I first used FruityLoops back in 2004 when I bought a Soundblaster that came with the Fruity Edition. I didn't really get into recording as much as I planned to due to #reasons but came back to it in 2009 when I got back into sampling and wanted to create some mashups. My background is Amiga based trackers like NoiseTracker, SoundTracker and - particularly - MED and OctaMED (which were really awesome proto-DAWS). FL Studio *is* incredibly weird but something about it really jibed with me from my tracking background of the early/mid 90s. Anyway, I'd started to get a bit more seriously into music production and wanted to do more recording. FL Studio was first choice (because I'd liked Fruity Loops) but I found USB soundcards with my Dell laptop swallowed about 30% of the CPU. Luckily it came with a Firewire port so I went out and bought a Focusrite Saffire Pro rackmount soundcard with a Firewire interface... which wasn't recognised by my Dell because it turned out Dell had cheaped out and included an incomplete Firewire implementation (very common outside of Apple circles). So then I bought a plug-in PCI Express Firewire interface and all was good. Everything worked perfectly with FL Studio. For about 5 minutes at a time. Until the PC bluescreened, and this happened every single time I tried to use the Firewire soundcard. Because Dell... you get the idea. So then I went into my local branch of Digital Village (now DV247) and said, "Hey, you guys build PCs specifically oriented towards audio and studio usage - will you build me a PC?" and the guy said, "Yeah, we do, but you should buy a Mac. And there was nothing I could say to either of the guys in the store to persuade them that selling me an audio PC was a good idea. They literally sent me out of the shop and in the direction of the nearest Apple Store (possibly this is an indication of why Digital Village went under and become DV247, but I really liked those guys because you could - and I had on other occasions - trust their advice). So I bought a Macbook Pro, which came with a built-in Firewire port and the Firewire soundcard worked perfectly with it and was generally awesome. But the problem was it was 2011/early 2012 and there was no FL Studio on MacOS/OSX. So I ran Windows 7 using Bootcamp, which worked great (obviously at no point did I consider the abomination that was Windows 8), and used FL Studio that way, and Firewire worked perfectly, and generally all was good, but running Windows when your life has become Mac centric and having to reboot the machine all the time was inconvenient in many ways, and Parallels was (and remains) a bag of absolute spanners in terms of performance (so that wasn't a goer), so I decided I ought to try something else, and I'd been aware of Ableton Live for some years, so plumped for that. I got it, I started using it, I hated it compared to FL Studio but I realised I needed to persist. A friend of mine literally said, "Oh, so now you're using a grown-ups DAW." Like, WTF? Anyway, I persisted, and there are some things about Ableton's workflow I really loved (and still do), and have overally come to think it's a great DAW. But I had this one track where I'd used a lot of Gross Beat and, boy, did it take me an age to reproduce in Ableton with beat repeat, sample offset, a bit of Izotope Stutter Edit, and the like. What I'd done in a few seconds in FL Studio Producer Edition took hours in Ableton, and *I had to buy additional plugins to do it*. Grr. But anyway, Ableton was my DAW for 4 or 5 years until life, work, and mental health got in the way of music production. The past couple of years I've been getting back into playing, into synths, and into production and - lo and behold - FL Studio is available for the Mac. I only have v20, which I installed a few weeks back. I hoped I'd love it again, but goodness is it weird. Like the Undo function doesn't work like any other application in the world either on Windows or Mac. WTF is that all about? Something as simple as setting a pattern length works differently in the channel rack versus the piano roll. Again, WTF? I spent, I kid you not, 15 or 20 minutes googling that to find out how to do it. And all the documentation has become this hotchpotch of online written documentation (fine, at least it's up to date) and video tutorials which, as far as I can tell, are anything up to 12 years old. FL Studio used to have great documentation and now it's a fucking mess. I don't mind the steep learning curve, but I do expect to be able to find out how to do basics without having to go digging around for 15 minutes every time I want to know how to specific a finer quantization interval or, as I've already mentioned, set the pattern length, or figure out why audio is being routed to master rather than a mixer track so I can change that. And, on a Mac, at least version 20 is buggy AF. Like stuff literally doesn't work as expected, even down to little things like often clicking buttons twice to get menus to appear. And don't get me started on Slicer and SliceX: tweaking regions is utterly painful when all the start markers are the same colour, all the end markers are the same colour, there are no proper resize/zoom options for the window, and you have no control over the Z order of markers that are in similar positions. GRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! I need to download version 21 and see if it's better but overall the experience of coming back has, so far, been worse than the experience of learning FL Studio the first time around. I'm going to persist but I have two very strong top level messages: 1) Work on the consistency of your user interfaces. The current situation is a mess. I don't expect to have two different ways to set pattern length, as an example. I get where you're going with more generalised markers in the piano roll, and there's a lot of power with that, but as a beginner user (again) I just want to make some music, not grapple with the tool. 2) SORT YOUR DOCUMENTATION OUT! Seriously. What the hell happened? I remember a great tutorial and manual around the FL Studio 9/10 era, and now it just sucks. Videos are a really bad way to document a software product because, relative to text and screenshots, they're hard work and expensive to update as the interface changes. This means that, just like you, nobody keeps video documentation up to date because they can't afford to. Many of your tutorials are 10 or 12 years old, and the interfaces have changed in that time - even if it's just moving or renaming menu items. I'm tired of watching video tutorials and then having to spend a couple of minutes digging around to find moved menu items, options, or buttons. It's not cool. My advice: ditch most of the videos, keep them for high level stuff so they're less overhead to update with each new version, and employ an additional competent technical author to keep your written documentation and screenshots up to date with the current version, and make most of your tutorials available with written documentation + sound clips. It feels like you're operating on the assumption that most users are already familiar with FL. Whilst that's probably true it's no way to attract new (or long since returning) users back to your platform and will ultimately result in erosion of your market share. You need to make the onboarding experience (a lot) better for new users.
I feel like FL Studio should come with Basshunter's 'Now You're Gone' pre-installed as a demo, in much the same way any number of synths have 'the Blade Runner' as a preset. Merry Christmas!
You should do more software! Its an unplowed field. I’m sure there’s a few apps, old and new, big enough to take the hit. Especially the good ones that have annoying traits.
My friend showed me FL Studio back in high school (2000-ish) and was the first thing I ever had on a computer that could do multi track recording. I ended up buying it and have enjoyed those free updates ever since.
I remember Fruity Loops being my first intro to making music on a computer in like 2001 or something. It was VERY basic. Shortly after I moved to Reason. I was surprised to see that decades later, FL, is pretty popular.
There are people who made genius level music 300 years ago with nothing but a pen, paper and single instrument. If you can't get anything out of software w literally hundreds of preset sounds, mixer settings and chords that's completely on you.
The amount of resources a piece of software contains doesn't remotely influence its quality. FL Studio is the ultimate proof of this. No matter how much shit you claim it comes packed with. The interface is awful. The warping algorithms are fucking shit. The overall channel rack-playlist-mixer structure is insanely bad. Let's not talk about the "preset sounds" or the synthesizers, the only decent one is Sytrus. It's completely unusable. Making electronic music and composing, which is what you referred to, are 2 completely different things. The former requires a decent software that isn't designed by people who should've sticked to degenerate japanese-style 2D porn, the latter can be accomplished with "nothing but a pen, paper and a single instrument" but it is a separate activity. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
There was a guy that wrote a comment I read a while back on some forum that explained some of the hate/negative stuff about FL Studio which was that FL Studio is the most popular and most pirated daw software which led to many amateur/bad sounding songs being published online during a boom in the mid-late 2000's.
I still call it Fruity Loops out of habbit. I'm personally a Cubase and Korg Gadget user. I remember eary versions of Fruitly Loops and it's iconic Hand-shaped mouse pointer. What's interresting about it, is that FL started on Windows and didn't get a "Fruity brand" computer version until years later. The GUI brings back memories of Windows 98 and the late 90's.
I started on FL Studio and eventually switched to Ableton, but I still miss the piano roll from FL Studio the most. Ableton's just doesn't even compare. That said, the main reason I switched is that working with recorded clips in FL Studio was a PITA, and warping in Ableton just works so much better, as do the per-clip tools for bringing up the level for just one clip. I think FL is superior for working exclusively with softsynths and Ableton is superior for working with hardware and raw audio files.
I love FLStudio because unlike Ableton, even when I have no idea what the fk im doing, I can actually make a song and it's a lot of fun doing it. Plus, I bought it like 5 years ago and I always have the latest and greatest version. Image Line is awesome. These days I've been using Digitakt + other instruments to directly record into FLStudio and it works great as mixer and a post production tool to add soundgooderizer on every track before I release it to the world.
Really every ableton user want’s this piano roll this is really the best of all daws no matter how much I love ableton❤ I actually got 49€ edition from fl many years ago just for using the piano roll and then importing the midis into ableton 😂 but to be honest one of my best investments I also got lifetime free updates since then❤️ fl + ableton rules 😬 this was such a great episode I had so many laughs boo bass 😂
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Gaz actually playing Santa Claus 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Jason75913 So.... he's not really Santa?
I'm confused.
Please share high res images of Gaz Santa for the memes to twitter or reddit or myspace. Do it for the memes.
I thought I recognized Gaz!
Gaz Williams, I never knew you played the bass on “Star Wars and Other Galactic Funk” (1977) by Meco!!!
"hating on DAWs makes no sense unless its logic" well said
;)
As someone who uses logic pro x, I agree
BOOOOOOO
logic is just a usable version of protools tho
For no reason
this series is really just you saying "skill issue" to every amateur synth head out there.
Let's see it as an encouragement;)
That is a lotta music discourse in general.
You summed it up perfectly.
Love FL studio, the kind of chaotic "everything can connect to everything else" workflow resonates with me a lot, no mater how often I try to get organized I just end up creating a chaotic mess anyways, so I might as well embrace it and make it my strength. Started messing with the trial when I was a kid, and haven't regretted buying the all plugins edition as an adult even once.
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Yep that's the best part of fruity, being able to sidechain my leads through like 20 seperate channels
Bro you just described my story with the daw lol
I can’t stand the options, but I’ll sure be damned if I had to live without them
I just love the fact that I can slap patch onto any effect rack, then use math on the fruity formula via the power of sin and pi lol: instant insane Eq effects on leads.
Who said that knowing math isn't useful, obviously they don't use Fl studio.
I grew up on FL in '99 and learned basic music production and theory with it. Even though I'm "DAWless" these days and haven't touched FL in 20 years, I still see the step sequencer and piano roll in my brain when composing or even writing songs in a live setting.
I started using FL then too! Straight from the tracker scene...
Wow seeing that step sequencer in your minds eye...sounds like "brain damage"...but the good kind 😆
:-o ... after this presentation and demo song quality i completely feel why someone goes in-the-box. Why you went to hardware? What exactly?
Same here with seq and piano roll :) but dawless I didn’t try
Yeah, the piano roll is super sophisticated!
Thanks for sharing the 🥭
Too cool!!!
Thanks guys!!!
U guys should make a hardware version I bet people would love it. I don't use DAWs much but I like u guys. If DAWs were people ur seem the most approachable and chill to hang out with and not be all pretentious. 💪🌙☀️⚡🗿🧙♂️🔮👁️🎄✌️
@@peteypete1984 I’d buy hardware FL Studio.
Hardware Version from grossbeat would be awesome
The vocoder that use rxternal soound for vocoding and Something Else to vocoder ist also a STier plugin
Maybe it's about time for ULI to release his very own brand new, unique, but strangely familiar DAW: "Meaty Loops".
UB Studio
They kinda beat you to the punch; they've been working on a (supposedly free) DAW of their own for a while now. Like, legit. It's behringer though, so it might be another two years before it gets released =)
@@ChamiCh Haha. Probably also delayed by the chip shortage. 😃
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@@ChamiCh If it's anything like the rest of Behringer's product lines, it will be a thin repackaging of an open source DAW with styling to make it look like Logic....
I never really understood some of the hate it received. You can make the same quality of track in any of the major DAWS (Cubase, REAPER, Ableton, Logic, FL, Studio One, Bitwig, etc). Just because someone may not like the workflow, which is understandable, doesn't make it a bad piece of software. Proud member of the FL gang here.
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I've been using FL since the beginning.
Being an old guy I feel that I can offer a bit of insight regarding the backlash. I believe it originally came from traditional musicians being offended by the way FL was marketed as an “easy” way to make music. When FL was new, most people making music had invested enormous amounts of time and money into the craft and FL was very much presented as a way to circumvent that effort. Even the whimsical name was like a middle finger to seasoned recording artists who came of age doing things the hard way. I am sort of in the middle of all that being an early adopter of software sequencing (I started with Performer on a 512k fat Mac) but still having a deep appreciation for (very) old school music production. Even though I hardly ever used loops or step sequencing, I was often accused of being a “button pusher”back then, which seems weird by todays standards. I am pretty sure the beginnings of the anti FL attitude started all the way back then and has just continued by inertia to some degree, even as the application became more powerful and flexible.
Mpc3000 users complained about the mpc2000 and it was considered a consumer level product by the 3000 people.
Of course they all were complaining about FL Studio.
I even remember someone saying they could tell 9th Wonder used FL because of the way the drums sounded 😂
I love writing music in FL. It let's you do 1 thing 5 different ways so you are free to make your own workflow. When you first learn it it can be confusing but IMHO it ends up being its greatest strength.
Yeah, it's like a parallel universe of music production
I just said this, almost word for word, to a friend just last night. It’s easily the best thing with FL - almost free form in a how you can approach it.
lol, I was about to write almost the exact same thing as to why I love FL Studio, too. Seems to be its biggest strength
FL Studio does have a more 'linear mode' (Instrument/Audio Tracks) currently available, which is a little more like other DAWs traditional way of working. And Image-Line have confirmed that they will further develop this in the future, to make FL Studio also easier to use for people who are coming from other DAWs and are more used to that type of workflow. Ultimately, everyone wins. Since, those who prefer FL Studio's non-linear workflows can still continue to use them, while newbies can put the baby stabilisers on the DAW and work strictly in a Linear fashion.
Never used it, I think my (limited) valuation of it has only gone up after this ep.
I knew it was an all-rounder DAW, now I know why.
Bad Gear isn’t really what the name implies, but it is the only honest review around, pros and cons.
Now I want him to do my DAW of choice, Ableton.
It was the late '90s and I had it when it was called Fruity Loops. Time passes so quickly!
I know, these were the days
As a paranoid schizophrenic producer I feel like I can really relate to this amazing video and it's editing, although I feel you forgot about the most amazing part of FL, the dancing anime girl
shes my fave
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Officially a Bad Gear owner now 🥳 FL user of 8 years (turning 9 on 27th). I think every FL user has their own unique way of using it, which in my opinion is one of the best thing about it. Sick jams as always. Merry Christmas!
Thank you!!! Merry Christmas!!!
^^^ I concur. Plus once you have a workflow, FL is blazing fast.
FL let's you drive your inspiration from any starting point. Its workflow-modularity is what freaks people out.
When i got one of my first placements in 2006, i went to the studio delivering the stems and the engineer said i need to remake the beat with a real daw like cubase. So i just imported the stems in cubase and gave them the cubase project file.
That could have been me back then;)
Chad move
Haha so good 😂
cubase makes me want to throw up
@@cesto1847 anything with the Steinberg branding makes me nauseous.
Gaz Williams AND FL Studio??? Merry Christmas indeed!
I've been using the DAW for over a decade now, and every time I see someone using the app for the first time they always somehow find a way to do something in it that I've always done a completely different way. It's part of why I love the program, it just gets deeper the more you poke at it.
Fun fact! As a teenager I attempted to teach myself the basics of synthesis with Sytrus, which is kind of like trying to learn how to ride a bike by bolting wheels to your face and feet. It did give me a lifelong love of stacked sine waves though!
Happy Holidays!
❤️❤️❤️Gaz❤️❤️❤️ - Sytrus is actually REALLY good!!!
@@AudioPilz Sytrus is fantastic, but as someone's entry point to the world of synthesis it's extremely overwhelming. I would have been much better off learning with something simpler since it put me off of synthesis for years until I picked up a Microfreak a few years back.
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A nice bowl of Fruity Loops! Thanks to you and Gaz for this wonderful Holiday Gift! 😆
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I use fl and I love this vid. Very good.
Hey Florian
Thanks for the heads up!!!
@@AudioPilz Specifically, Soundgoodizer A-- probably the most powerful if least subtle one-- can be opened in Maximus. Soundgoodizer itself is based on a very old free plugin, the name of which I forget (I don't know how comparable they are these days, but maybe you can still use that old VST in other DAWs to good effect if you can dig it up!), but Soundgoodizer as it exists now is actually a Mini-Maximus. Minimus, if you will. Consequently, if you open the Soundgoodizer A preset in Maximus, you can see exactly what it's doing with a full breakdown of settings in the various bands, and if you like what it's doing you might tweak it from there, or just study it to replicate some of its qualities elsewhere.
Of course, if you really just want all that goodized sound and more in other DAWs for minimal effort, just buy the VST version of Maximus from FL and run it wherever you want.
Free updates for life is a great feeling, my father got me FL 10 Signature edition for my 13th birthday and it's probably the best value gift I've ever received! It's not without its shortcomings, but over a decade later and I still use FL as my main DAW.
Yeah, I'll be an FL user for the rest of my days now;)
Intro sequence is truly blessed
Thank you!!!
I've used nothing else than fruity loops last 20 years. Its amazing what you can do.
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This comment would be soo good if it would come from a Producer-Legend. (The type of people you'ld expect to do amazing things with a DAW)
But then I read your name and it said "hello jaja" 😅
@@Superior1995Rex I'm secretly a producer legend who never releases anything. 😁
Hahahaha, nice to hear that FL sound at the end.
I'm using FL studio since 2015 after trying a lot of daws. I have to say that FL studio is the most versatile daw that I know. But the best thing next to it's great features is the lifetime free updates! Thanks Image Line for that.
Merry Christmas to you, Florian!
Merry Christmas to you too!!!
This is the magnum opus. I will never get tired of Gaz' happy bass face. Guess the guy with glasses can stay ❤
Thank you so much!!!
That was an amazing episode!!! Love the crossover with Gaz Klaus!! 🎅
What's next...? New Years with Nick "The Batt"?
Happy Friday Florian and Frolische Weinachten!! 🎄🎁
Thanks!!! Frohes Fest!!!
An episode like Nick did on the Roland Jupiter 50 would be epic!
Surely it'll have to wait until the PWM Malevolent is old enough... Nick + saying PWM every other line... too much!
My hip-hop producer friend once asked me to help finish a track of his on FL (I'm an Ableton guy). It took me 30 minutes to make a simple sequenced bassline, and I looked like the dad from Mitchells vs. The Machines the whole time.
I feel you!!!
If it took you 30 min to make a simple bassline sequence .... Idgaf what daw it is....or was.....lol it's NOT the daws fault.....come on now lmfao
@@davew6097 real, if you cant get it within the first 10-15, it really is ok to swallow your pride and look it up lol
@@davew6097 Fruity Loops IS shit though
@@annother3350 some of the greatest producers alive use fl don't hate cuz you can't figure out how to use it
Gaz and Audiopilz, a dream team :) merry christmas to the austrian-british friendship :)
Hey Tom, nice to have you here!
Watching this really reminds me of how much work it takes to put this show together. Thanks for a great year of content ❤
Thank you so much!!!❤❤❤
Been loyal to FL since 2011. Now I find myself channelling Autogun everytime I try to describe a synth. Once you've experienced the delightful sound of warm metallic kittens tweaked by yo mama, it changes you. It's icy, but not entirely claustrophobic.
Autogun presets are so great!
@@AudioPilz and the best thing: you will never run out of presets.
The UI is designed based on the 'just use more monitors' paradigm... but that's pretty much the industry standard for DAWs. Great episode.
Thank you!!!
Fruity really unlocks when you have a monitor for the main roll, one for mixer, one for channel rack, and one for piano roll, then it gets really fast
Indeed Gaz is an absolute legend and this video has just won "Best Damn Editing", "Best use of producer memes" and "Best Synthfluencer video of 2022". Talk about scoring seconds before the end of the game!
Thank you so much!!!
As a Fruity Loops user ever since the beginning and for all of my music i am lightly offended by this episode of Bad Gear.
Damn, I shouldn't have messed with the Timecop😬😬😬
This is my new favourite channel, but bloody hell it takes an hour to watch every video with the pausing and rewinding to read the memes 🤣
FL was the very first DAW I used back around the year 2000. I didn't do much with it, but it got me started. Now I'm all about Sunvox
Nice, I have to check out Sunvox
the production quality of this episode is stellar!
thank you, mr.Pilz, and have a merry Christmas)
Thank you so much!!!
Man, this vid takes ‘best edited vid award ‘ for your channel this year. Well done! 👏
Thank you so much!!!
I'll always have a soft spot for FL Studio, it got me into producing way back in 2006 or so. It's a solid DAW and always has been, and I think Image Line is an amazing company. I think it's amazing that they offer lifetime free updates. I think it could easily stand as a pro DAW for anyone that cared enough to use it. There's some international top-hits that have been created in FL Studio. I've been a devoted Studio One user for 5 years now, I just find it an overall more professional and intuitive DAW. But I got nothing bad to say about FL.
I use both. For making beats, I massively prefer fl studio, it's just more intuitive for making loop based music imo as it's completely based around patterns.
When I want to record though, I go to studio one, it's just so much better for anything like recording a song.
Martin Garrix - Animals for example...
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@@TraxtasyMedia dont forget the most complex and best produced track of the 2000s. crank that.
“You’ve been a very naughty boy!”
“Did Roland send you?”
Dude, that really cracked me up😄
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FL is awesome. No real Rules to how to use it, which is bad for user coming from traditional Linear DAW workflows, but amazing for point & click warriors & modular workflow. I would check out Benn Jordan's video on FL Studio 21, which really highlights a bunch of things I love about FLS
Edit, nvm you touched on a bunch of things I love about FL, cheers AudioPilz!
Benns vid about 21 is so great!!!
They fixed the audio lane in 21. If you turn off typing keyboard to midi, the shortcuts work better, which isnt intuitive or obvious to most users. You could just press C to bring up cut, and set the playlist snapping, and place a playhead to paste at that location. I barely use my ascii board and just jump around on my MPD and LX61. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the heads up!!! Still started editing in 20
Brilliant show, and nice to see you went beyond hardware :-). Pretty impressive what you did there, as usual. Slowly you're going through the list of tools I own, and I love it.
I used FL in the early 2000s to experiment. Then work happened and I dropped music for a long time.
20 years later I picked up this hidden passion again, started with a FL license, but I discovered I love DAWless so much more. Or at least the live aspect of it, instead of programming a song in and looking at screens. But you inspired me to pick FL up again and integrate its performance mode into my setup, and use my Mac as an instrument instead of the centerpiece of it all.
Please keep on making your videos. You're an inspiration for many people, and you singlehandedly rebooted second hand markets for many tools.
Much
Thank you!!!❤️❤️❤️
That epic production value tho ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you!!!
I’ve never understood the hate from some quarters for FruityLoops. Especially these days. Best piano roll in the business, great VST support, lifetime updates.
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Good episode, AudioPilz! Thanks for coming along, Gaz Williams! You're super kind! :)
Thank you so much!!! Gaz=legend!!!
we need more of these. an episode in garageband would be great. also mixcraft 9 has a pretty cool performance mode
Great suggestions, thanks!
This was an awesome episode for various reasons. Merry X-Mas, Sir.
Thank you!!! Merry Christmas!!!
Let me explain about Claw Machine and 3:07 others, Claw Machine is taking up those "midi notes" just like the claw machine does, Quantizer is a tool to "quantize the midi notes" into perfectly put in the bar (usually for recording from midi keyboard), Strummizer is a tool for strumming the midi note just like playing guitar, Articulator is a tool to articulate the length of midi notes, and Score flipper is a tool to flip the whole midi notes.
Thanks for the clarification!!!
@@AudioPilz you're most welcome, I was a former user of "demo version" for a long time in purpose making mashups or editing stuffs on that DAW, honestly, I remembered back in pandemic days, Ableton gave a full "lite" experience of their Live and I've mostly using it rather than FL Studio, in terms of usage, you're well said it on the verdict section, glad you enjoyed it anyway 👏
I use FL since 20 Years, i love it. And It works well as a Sequencer with my Hardwaresynths. Thanks for the Episode and Frohe Weihnachten und einen guten Rutscht!!
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ROTFLMAO! I created the meme at 1:10. I would've never thought I'd be honored to see it in a Bad Gear episode. Thank you!
Nice one!!! Thanks!!!
Ohhh.... so you don't use FL Studio.... BROTHER?!?!? 🤨 lol
@@s_the_first I did years ago. I honestly created the meme as a joke for laughs. I have no hard sentiments toward the DAW.
FL is a DAW that gives the user a LOT of freedom in tackling how to make projects on and I really appreciate it. I never use the step sequencer and generally speaking don't touch the great piano roll much. Most of my work is precisely chopping/placing samples and laying everything out on the playlist and lathering on the FX as I go. I feel like my style and approach to production is a little atypical but FL is the most for me daw out there and I don't think I can move to another daw for fear of my whole world & process/style falling apart lol 🥲
Great vid!
Thank you!!!
I don't use samples. When i make electronic music, it's all synth based (physical modelling, substractive, fm, etc), including drums, fortunately i have a very beefy CPU for that.
@@saricubra2867 I've dabbled in that but there's a certain flow/feel to really messing with, transforming, and building off samples that I'm very much in love with, so I primarily do music that way now. Respect though!
One Pluck Arp in Serum and One Pad in Diva is all my CPU can handle 😅
I started using FL Studio because a friend gave it to me. Before that, I was writing music in Finale NotePad. I've gotten so used to this DAW, I feel there's no reason to switch to something else.
Love it! thanks and have a great Christmas!
Thank you!!! Happy New Year!!!
Now that the DAW floodgate is open, I'm hoping for an episode on Slow Tools sometime in the future
Slow Tools, lol
Why?.... I thought Pro-Tools rode off into the sunset and never looked back, must've dreamt it. Oh no, actually, that was me, riding away from the Pro-Tools licensing options, my bad.
I actually started on FL, hated it for years and recently Ive been back on it. FL is amazing once it clicks with you.
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My first efforts with electronic music were made possible by FL studio. Downloaded the 3rd version illegally from Kazaa of course, it was fundamental in my development. Creating endless amounts of useless EBM loops while snorting large quantities of cheap, locally sourced crystal meth could sum up my last years in high school. The beginning of the millennium was a wonderful time to be alive.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂the end, oh I bet that was alot of fun😉 Gaz is awesome lol. Thankyou Florian for all the fun you have given us this year, and have a wonderful Christmas!
❤️❤️❤️Gaz❤️❤️❤️ Thank you!!!
@@AudioPilz I've had the honour of having a few drinks with Gaz 😉🙌😂😂😂
Bub - I’ve had this for years yet was unaware of many features you pointed out. Thank you! 👏👏
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highly appreciate this episode. I started on FL Studio through my brother and found my workflow to thrive between Logic and Bitwig, but you very much sum up what's great about FL in 10 minutes. This is what the 'DAW debates' need more of, not disputes about an audio engine's quality that we all know matches to what logic can provide until we're talking surround sound setups. I love that you even touch on the arp and melody generators in this current world of people paying way too much money of "midi packs"
Thank you!!!
Your live fruity session was amazing, I'm MIND BLOWN.
FL Studio's lifetime free updates, makes it without a doubt, the best value for money DAW on the planet
Studio One Artist: XD
Thank you!!!
Adding the FL Studio start-up twerpy sound at the end was a real touch of class 🤩
Thank you!!!
I finally bought and started using FL Studio earlier this year. I used to really hate it a decade and more ago, but I think with version 20 it became a serious DAW. The window management though, oh god it's painful - there must be a better way of doing it
The windows are pure horror;)
Yea, been using FL for over a decade now & agree window management is abysmal. You could in the view dropdown menu to set a custom window layout & realign with shift+ctrl+H (on windows, it'd probably cmd on mac) but still isn't the best workaround
And to top off the myriad of windows, you can detach any one window from the main screen, and move it..
To the adjacent 28 inch screen for example!
And FL Studio supports up to 8 separate screens! The madness! 😅
@@Hyper5nic WHAT??????? THANK YOU so much, you are a lifesaver, I completely glossed over that feature!
@@Hyper5nic that's all well and good but I don't even have a room for a second monitor, let alone 8 of them!
When there's no more bad hardware left to review, the free synthedit plugins will own this channel.
Damn, I had them ALL!!!😂😂😂
I was waiting for some eternities for this episode. What a nice christmas present!! Thanks a lot! Happy christmas to you!
Thank you so much!!!
That bittersweet feeling when Renoise isn’t even in the memes XD
FL is legit simultaneously overpowered and flawed to a beautiful degree like most DAWs.
Even I a tracker junkie find myself using FL as a vst. 🧡
Wow, I really need to use it as a VST!!! Thanks for the heads up!
@@AudioPilz Any time fam! It’s a game changer.
You planning an FL - Ableton duet? Haha!
haha amazing crossover
Thanks!!! Yeah, banging out beats since 1997;)
Oh and merry Xmas 🎄
What a good episode. 😂
FELIZ NAVIDAD! 🎅
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FL studio user of 15 years. I have worked professionally in other DAWs such as Ableton, Cubase, Studio One, Reaper, etc, but there's something about FL's open ended workflow that has me coming back. I just love the piano roll and how sandbox-like it is and all the modularity when it comes to creating something. My biggest issue with FL is a feature request can sometimes take years, hell even a decade (been asking for proper audio crossfades for a literal decade). Window management is also a disaster. Great vid!
Thank you!!!
I tried several DAWs in the past, FL studio being one of them, and I just couldn't wrap my head around any of them so I went back to making my music on trackers, so much easier. The only thing that comes close to using a DAW was when I used to make music on Music 2000 on the PlayStation way back in the late 90's/early 2000's, that and doing audio editing in Audacity.
Loved Music 2000
I grew up using FL studio, and it has fundamentally shaped my workflow. What it hasn't done is make me any better at making music (T_T)
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I've been using it since version 2. I can totally see why it would be off-putting to a new user in its current form, but it's just so damn flexible. Any other DAW I've used felt restrictive to me.
Agreed, super versatile!
Been using FL Studio for well over a decade. It's a lot different than other DAWs and makes you take time to learn how to streamline your workflow, but the results can end up being some of the best control and fastest work you can get from a DAW. Wouldn't regret the choice to use it in a million years.
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Luvly christmas collab guys!!!! Hillarious!!! Thank you!
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My fav badgear video. I use fl and I loved his take on it! Friggin hilarious. Ty bro!
Thank you so much!!!
FLStudio is the best DAW exist. I worked with different DAWs in past (Boobase, Afletchon, Reaction, Bitfick, Garbage Band...). Most fast workflow are with FLStudio. This the right if you want produce music and not want to find out how to route channels. I use Midi-Controllers and Hardware Synths, and modular Tech. I never had any problems with connection to FLStudio. Everything works fine.
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Wishing everyone a merry Synthmas & a happy new bad gear!
Happy New Year!!!
In my opinion, the piano roll in FL is much better in Ableton, as it was probably intended for you to actually draw in the notes as opposed to just do minor editing on recorded MIDI. There's no double clicking to insert a note, no tool changing to delete a note, if you hold Alt, you can change the velocity, you can group the notes with a single shortcut, it seems just made for people like me who have never touched a MIDI keyboard. Oh, and panning around is also easier, albeit accidentally pressing Ctrl while selecting a bunch of notes makes you zoom in a lot and it is irrationally annoying. Over the 8 or 9 years of producing I have gotten pretty good with the [keyboard] keyboard as a MIDI controller and my only gripe with it is that there's no shortcut to transpose the keyboard and no way to change the velocity. I've even found a place where they could have put it, Page Up/Down for the transposing and either the numpad to set the velocity to a percentage of 0 to 90% (or map those keys to go from 0 to 100% in just 9 steps) or Home/End for some% increments. I've also noticed while trying out Ableton that the idle CPU usage was quite a lot higher. I do like Ableton's approach to effects, especially the fact that you're not limited to just 10, but the idea of mixer routing is vastly more intuitive to me. I can arrange stuff in buses in just 2 clicks, assuming I already have the mixer open, which I always do have detached from the main window, on my second screen. That said, with my experience in FL, using Ableton was just as easy, even if it was a bit slower, which is a given. But the UI of both seems to be laid out really nicely and intuitively. Additionally, Max for Live seems more advanced than Patcher and in general, Patcher gets really messy really quickly and it's not really a good way to create a modular synth-like experience, like, there's no envelope generators, mixers that you can actually control the output volume of, or anything, really. You gotta ship it in yourself with VST's. That said, I have a whole lot less experience with Max as opposed to Patcher, so I probably didn't go in far enough to see any real issues with it; I just wanted to play with it for a bit.
Thank you for reading a bunch of rambling, I probably gotta go sleep.
Friendly reminder that when writing... always be sure to add spaces; it gives the read an easier time to follow your flow.
Also, the space acts as moment to pause and think about what was just read: words exist to convey thoughts and concepts
@@jacobhatfield764 Friendly reminder for you to go screw yourself. If you can't follow a bunch of text, (with spaces, mind you!) I am not the issue.
@@user-qp3qj2jv6f You know, before one reacts with haste and violence: ask for intentions.
I genuinely meant this as help. It is actually very hard to read and I figure you want to know this for future endeavors; I am being honest, but as you said, "I am not the issue."
Your behaviors on you: indeed, that works both ways.
It's just advice, take or leave it.
The crowd isn’t booing, they chanting “GAAAAAZZZZZ!!!!”
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Amazing episode! I started on FL back in the early early days, did Cubase then been with Ableton since version 3. I have too many bad habits invested in my current setup to unpick them all for a brand new set of worse habits - FL has come on a looooong way though. Great to see that Nick has allowed Gaz out of his cell for the day, what a legend!
Hahaha love this comment! Relatable
Thank you so much!!!
Probably one of the best episodes I've watched and as an FL Studio pirate turned Ableton-er, FL was that "weird DAW for teenagers that makes funny music" and yet 10 years later, everybody is on it.
See that's what I don't get .....how was it for teenagers and how did it make "funny" music......I'll never get the things people come up with to bash ANY daw lol.....they're all daws and they make music....period.....people are so bizarre lmao
@@davew6097 it’s all about the associations with certain acts. The only people I followed who used it in 2009 were a group of furries, who often were quite defensive and like “it’s the only one I know how to use, I’ve been using it since 2003”. They’re a lot more chill about it now, but that was definitely the reputation it had in some circles.
That's because FL Studio 5 might have been "that weird, simplistic DAW for teens", but it's definitely not FL5 anymore. Let's just say a LOT of good things happened since then.
Thank you!!! Yeah, it's everywhere!!!
I first used FruityLoops back in 2004 when I bought a Soundblaster that came with the Fruity Edition. I didn't really get into recording as much as I planned to due to #reasons but came back to it in 2009 when I got back into sampling and wanted to create some mashups. My background is Amiga based trackers like NoiseTracker, SoundTracker and - particularly - MED and OctaMED (which were really awesome proto-DAWS). FL Studio *is* incredibly weird but something about it really jibed with me from my tracking background of the early/mid 90s. Anyway, I'd started to get a bit more seriously into music production and wanted to do more recording.
FL Studio was first choice (because I'd liked Fruity Loops) but I found USB soundcards with my Dell laptop swallowed about 30% of the CPU. Luckily it came with a Firewire port so I went out and bought a Focusrite Saffire Pro rackmount soundcard with a Firewire interface... which wasn't recognised by my Dell because it turned out Dell had cheaped out and included an incomplete Firewire implementation (very common outside of Apple circles). So then I bought a plug-in PCI Express Firewire interface and all was good. Everything worked perfectly with FL Studio. For about 5 minutes at a time. Until the PC bluescreened, and this happened every single time I tried to use the Firewire soundcard. Because Dell... you get the idea.
So then I went into my local branch of Digital Village (now DV247) and said, "Hey, you guys build PCs specifically oriented towards audio and studio usage - will you build me a PC?" and the guy said, "Yeah, we do, but you should buy a Mac. And there was nothing I could say to either of the guys in the store to persuade them that selling me an audio PC was a good idea. They literally sent me out of the shop and in the direction of the nearest Apple Store (possibly this is an indication of why Digital Village went under and become DV247, but I really liked those guys because you could - and I had on other occasions - trust their advice).
So I bought a Macbook Pro, which came with a built-in Firewire port and the Firewire soundcard worked perfectly with it and was generally awesome. But the problem was it was 2011/early 2012 and there was no FL Studio on MacOS/OSX. So I ran Windows 7 using Bootcamp, which worked great (obviously at no point did I consider the abomination that was Windows 8), and used FL Studio that way, and Firewire worked perfectly, and generally all was good, but running Windows when your life has become Mac centric and having to reboot the machine all the time was inconvenient in many ways, and Parallels was (and remains) a bag of absolute spanners in terms of performance (so that wasn't a goer), so I decided I ought to try something else, and I'd been aware of Ableton Live for some years, so plumped for that.
I got it, I started using it, I hated it compared to FL Studio but I realised I needed to persist. A friend of mine literally said, "Oh, so now you're using a grown-ups DAW." Like, WTF?
Anyway, I persisted, and there are some things about Ableton's workflow I really loved (and still do), and have overally come to think it's a great DAW. But I had this one track where I'd used a lot of Gross Beat and, boy, did it take me an age to reproduce in Ableton with beat repeat, sample offset, a bit of Izotope Stutter Edit, and the like. What I'd done in a few seconds in FL Studio Producer Edition took hours in Ableton, and *I had to buy additional plugins to do it*. Grr. But anyway, Ableton was my DAW for 4 or 5 years until life, work, and mental health got in the way of music production.
The past couple of years I've been getting back into playing, into synths, and into production and - lo and behold - FL Studio is available for the Mac. I only have v20, which I installed a few weeks back.
I hoped I'd love it again, but goodness is it weird. Like the Undo function doesn't work like any other application in the world either on Windows or Mac. WTF is that all about? Something as simple as setting a pattern length works differently in the channel rack versus the piano roll. Again, WTF? I spent, I kid you not, 15 or 20 minutes googling that to find out how to do it. And all the documentation has become this hotchpotch of online written documentation (fine, at least it's up to date) and video tutorials which, as far as I can tell, are anything up to 12 years old. FL Studio used to have great documentation and now it's a fucking mess. I don't mind the steep learning curve, but I do expect to be able to find out how to do basics without having to go digging around for 15 minutes every time I want to know how to specific a finer quantization interval or, as I've already mentioned, set the pattern length, or figure out why audio is being routed to master rather than a mixer track so I can change that.
And, on a Mac, at least version 20 is buggy AF. Like stuff literally doesn't work as expected, even down to little things like often clicking buttons twice to get menus to appear. And don't get me started on Slicer and SliceX: tweaking regions is utterly painful when all the start markers are the same colour, all the end markers are the same colour, there are no proper resize/zoom options for the window, and you have no control over the Z order of markers that are in similar positions. GRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHH!!!!
I need to download version 21 and see if it's better but overall the experience of coming back has, so far, been worse than the experience of learning FL Studio the first time around. I'm going to persist but I have two very strong top level messages:
1) Work on the consistency of your user interfaces. The current situation is a mess. I don't expect to have two different ways to set pattern length, as an example. I get where you're going with more generalised markers in the piano roll, and there's a lot of power with that, but as a beginner user (again) I just want to make some music, not grapple with the tool.
2) SORT YOUR DOCUMENTATION OUT! Seriously. What the hell happened? I remember a great tutorial and manual around the FL Studio 9/10 era, and now it just sucks. Videos are a really bad way to document a software product because, relative to text and screenshots, they're hard work and expensive to update as the interface changes. This means that, just like you, nobody keeps video documentation up to date because they can't afford to. Many of your tutorials are 10 or 12 years old, and the interfaces have changed in that time - even if it's just moving or renaming menu items. I'm tired of watching video tutorials and then having to spend a couple of minutes digging around to find moved menu items, options, or buttons. It's not cool. My advice: ditch most of the videos, keep them for high level stuff so they're less overhead to update with each new version, and employ an additional competent technical author to keep your written documentation and screenshots up to date with the current version, and make most of your tutorials available with written documentation + sound clips. It feels like you're operating on the assumption that most users are already familiar with FL. Whilst that's probably true it's no way to attract new (or long since returning) users back to your platform and will ultimately result in erosion of your market share. You need to make the onboarding experience (a lot) better for new users.
Thanks for posting!!!
@@AudioPilzDid you really read all that? 😃
Very extensive and detailed, I love it
I feel like FL Studio should come with Basshunter's 'Now You're Gone' pre-installed as a demo, in much the same way any number of synths have 'the Blade Runner' as a preset. Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you too!
I prefer the Boten Ana version, or… wait was it the Dota one? Anyway, damn that takes me back
Banger!!!
The first x-mas gift already delivered on friday!!!
Amazed as allways... Merry Christmas !!!
Thank you!!!
Incredible episode! Had me in stitches whilst still showing that FL Studio is a beast. Merry Christmas!
Thank you!!!
Uli has something for you! this episode is beyond epic. I dont know if you can ever top this one.
Thank you!!! Working on it;)
FL Studio was the best music software I worked with. The only reason I left was because everybody at the time told me that it's not for professionals.
"not for professionals"
Lmao. Midi options and automatization blows any other DAW out of the water.
Protools looks stuck in the early 90s.
Yeah, I might have been one of these people back in the days. Sorry for that;)
4:30 and 7:00 Look mom! I'm on Tv!!! "Olbaid Compendium"
Great stuff!!! Really enjoyed the sounds!!! Thank you!
@anashe15256 jajajaja si
wow awesome episode / i always look forward to these coming out. much love
Thank you!!!
Happy Holidays for you & all your watchers & a bad gear NewYear. 😊👍...again awesome editing, so funny.
Thank you!!! Merry Christmas!!!
You should do more software! Its an unplowed field. I’m sure there’s a few apps, old and new, big enough to take the hit.
Especially the good ones that have annoying traits.
Great idea, thanks!!!
Workflow freedom, the best piano roll ever and great plugins such as harmor, maximus or vocodex. Fl Studio my beloved 💙💜
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My friend showed me FL Studio back in high school (2000-ish) and was the first thing I ever had on a computer that could do multi track recording. I ended up buying it and have enjoyed those free updates ever since.
Nice!!!
You've really been after my heart with these last couple episodes, great work
Thank you!!!❤️❤️❤️
two of the nicest guys of youtube in one video, loved this episode!
Thank you!!!
I remember Fruity Loops being my first intro to making music on a computer in like 2001 or something. It was VERY basic. Shortly after I moved to Reason. I was surprised to see that decades later, FL, is pretty popular.
Yeah, it has become quite powerful...
There are people who made genius level music 300 years ago with nothing but a pen, paper and single instrument. If you can't get anything out of software w literally hundreds of preset sounds, mixer settings and chords that's completely on you.
True that!
The amount of resources a piece of software contains doesn't remotely influence its quality. FL Studio is the ultimate proof of this.
No matter how much shit you claim it comes packed with. The interface is awful. The warping algorithms are fucking shit. The overall channel rack-playlist-mixer structure is insanely bad. Let's not talk about the "preset sounds" or the synthesizers, the only decent one is Sytrus. It's completely unusable. Making electronic music and composing, which is what you referred to, are 2 completely different things. The former requires a decent software that isn't designed by people who should've sticked to degenerate japanese-style 2D porn, the latter can be accomplished with "nothing but a pen, paper and a single instrument" but it is a separate activity. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Sometimes too many options is bad. Ever heard of choice paralysis?
There was a guy that wrote a comment I read a while back on some forum that explained some of the hate/negative stuff about FL Studio which was that FL Studio is the most popular and most pirated daw software which led to many amateur/bad sounding songs being published online during a boom in the mid-late 2000's.
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I still call it Fruity Loops out of habbit. I'm personally a Cubase and Korg Gadget user. I remember eary versions of Fruitly Loops and it's iconic Hand-shaped mouse pointer. What's interresting about it, is that FL started on Windows and didn't get a "Fruity brand" computer version until years later. The GUI brings back memories of Windows 98 and the late 90's.
I'm totally Fruity Loops too!!!
I started on FL Studio and eventually switched to Ableton, but I still miss the piano roll from FL Studio the most. Ableton's just doesn't even compare. That said, the main reason I switched is that working with recorded clips in FL Studio was a PITA, and warping in Ableton just works so much better, as do the per-clip tools for bringing up the level for just one clip. I think FL is superior for working exclusively with softsynths and Ableton is superior for working with hardware and raw audio files.
FL piano roll is the GOAT
Can I be the first to say it? There’s a plug in to help you with prerecorded audio in the terms of sampling and tuning. Teehee
@@sundownsupper7409 could you tell me which plugin? i'm trying to improve my FL skills. thanks!
I love FLStudio because unlike Ableton, even when I have no idea what the fk im doing, I can actually make a song and it's a lot of fun doing it. Plus, I bought it like 5 years ago and I always have the latest and greatest version. Image Line is awesome. These days I've been using Digitakt + other instruments to directly record into FLStudio and it works great as mixer and a post production tool to add soundgooderizer on every track before I release it to the world.
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Really every ableton user want’s this piano roll this is really the best of all daws no matter how much I love ableton❤ I actually got 49€ edition from fl many years ago just for using the piano roll and then importing the midis into ableton 😂 but to be honest one of my best investments I also got lifetime free updates since then❤️ fl + ableton rules 😬 this was such a great episode I had so many laughs boo bass 😂
Thank you!!!
Best episode EVAR.
Many Loops and such Fruit to you, good sir!
Thank you!!! Have a nice one!!!
Thanks that was fun. Happy holidays. 🤟
Thanks for watching!!!
there's literally worldwide platinum songs made in FL studio. I don't get why some people still dismiss it.
True that!