Thanks for all your info. There is so much negativity surrounding img going to the uk. U are 1 of the few that push past the negativity and give objective info.
So, 2 questions: 1. Can the post-internship experience be any full-time work as a licensed doctor (e.g. a small private hospital), or are there specific requirements or settings where one is required to practise? 2. Let's say someone passes PLAB 2 and applies for GMC registration, but the deadline for applications for specialty training is very soon and they won't be able to get their registration by that time. Can they apply for specialty training (and submit their CREST form etc) in that situation?
That's nicely explained. I have joined core psychiatry training this year without any prior experience. It's not always about advantages I guess. Personal circumstances, preferences and overall training conditions play a part in this. Best wishes.
Hello @Dr Rashid, Congratulations on starting residency. I would like to know how to went about this. I am targeting the November round of applications. What advice can you give me with relation to building a portfolio, I would appreciate greatly
@@smokyhs2 crest form need to be signed off by any consultant / reg who has supervised you. Not necessarily gmc registered. No prior experience needed to apply for core psych training.
doc. Thank u for such informative videos I have completed the royal college exams and waiting for my GMC. Most people have advised me to start with a non-training jobs rather than applying for ST3 directly. But i feel it would just delay the process of getting a cct. Can u plz tell me what r the risks involved and if it is at all advisable to start as ST3 in the UK if someone gets the chance? Is it even manageable? Any private academy or anything that could give induction for the same if required or is their shadowing first before starting as a st3?
Can you please make a detailed discussion on CESR and CEGPR? I want to know how long the process usually takes, the most efficient ways to submit evidence, the difficulties that can be encountered in the process, etc.
Just need to confirm. People in the IMG group spread doom and gloom, and suggest directly starting as ST1 (especially GPST1) is bound to lead to medicolegal issues. Apparently a lot of trainees get demoted or kicked out of programs. They suggest to always have prior NHS experience before accepting any training role. What are your thoughts on this?
Firstly, everyone talks about their bad experiences or rumors of bad experiences. We as humans gravitate to negativity. Now, will you as an IMG know everything about the NHS from day one? No. Strangely, you will never hear anyone dissaude an IMG from directly doing PGY-1 training in the USA. Do they know everything about the US healthcare system from day one? Unlikely. Now what can you do to mitigate potential problems? 1) We have provided many videos, articles, and booklets that can help you familiarize yourself. 2) GMC has many topics discussing how to approach care that you can read. 3) Know your limitations and ask questions. It may sound really blunt and perhaps rude, but many times IMGs get into trouble because they feel by asking for help or being open about the fact that they don't know something that they will look weak or incapable. This then puts them in potentially catastrophic situations. We need to be able to be open about what we can and cannot do. Seek advice from your colleagues and supervisors. When in doubt, ask for help. That's all it comes down to.
@@RoadToUK Thank you so much! Yes, I did think it's strange no one dissuades IMGs from applying to PGY-1 positions in the US. Like I always wondered what's so special about working in the NHS compared to the US that it couldn't be learned about from online resources/clinical attachments. (I believe the US healthcare system is equally complex with complex protocols, pre-authorisations and whatnot. But strangely, nobody considers IMGs not good enough for not knowing about these from day 1.) You have cleared the doubts I had of applying for training posts. :) Once again, thank you!
Is it possible to apply with only plab 1 and later finish plab 2 and get gmc registration before training starting date if possible when should we have to provide gmc registration at time of offer or offer hold deadline ?
Finish plab 2 and gmc registration first. All this takes a lot of time, and by the time u apply, you need full GMC registration, which itself takes about 2-3 months post PLAB 2 result. So aim at getting registered first
Hello, i need help in one particular question, if i have completed my internship but i am not registered in that country and never worked fully as a doctor, do i still need to provide CGS to gmc for full registration? I am a fresh grad. So i really do not have a full registration with the country where i completed my medical school and internship. And if the answer is no, how do I explain them about that.
Hi Ibreez. Thank you for the useful sharing. I would like to ask your opinion in my case. I arrived in the UK couple of months ago under a spouse visa and I am fully qualified medical specialist/physician in my own country. In addition, I just passed my OET recently. I already registered the application for GMC. My question is, what are the pathways I have to practice my speciality, here? Fyi, I havent sit for PLAB, or any offer for certificate of any sponsorship. What choice do I have? Thank you.
Can a senior resident whom I have worked under as a JR, sign my crest form? This senior resident is now registered with the GMC and working as specialty doctor in Oncology. Can he sign my CREST form as I have worked under him for 1 year during my JRship?
Thank you for this video. I would be very thankful if you could answer this question. If I already have a 12 month internship equivalent, and then I work 10-12 months in the country I graduated from (Hungary), and after that apply for non-training FY-2 level jobs, will I be considered overqualified for internal medicine core training? Thank you in advance!
Thanks for another great video! You've talk about having to complete 12 months post internship experience. Is there a chance to fidn work in the UK right after intership in home country (i.e. get full GMC registration with license but without any other experience)? I couldn't find a video on that.
If I want to apply for this year november (after 2 months) gp training, do I need to clear my MRSA before November?? Or I can apply and do it later till the training actually starts?
Let's say I've completed my internship back home and also worked the house job for a year. Passed my plab 2,therefore got my gmc registration.Does that make me eligible for joining a training program at ST1/CT1 and therefore can i skip the FY-2.
Mam I have finished my post graduation in family medicine from India and wants to enter gp training in uk , I do not have any Gmc registration and totally confused regarding how to proceed ,
Hlw Dr Ebreez . I know you from my medical school. you are my senior of my medical college. Mymensingh Medical College M 49 batch. I just passed my plab 2 .gmc registration on processing . I really need one suggestion from you. As I came to the UK 2021 and then I don't have clinical experience till now . However, since I passed 2018 till 2021 I had clinical experience with that will I be able to apply MRSA training program? Because I am in skilled worker visa with a care company. Please let me know 🙏 I would be grateful. thank you
Thank you for your valuable information For urology ST3, can you link requirements for IMG having 12 months post internship experience outside NHS and Full GMC registration ? Is it possible to bypass core training to ST3?
Nice video.. Doing Housejob(internship training) for 2 years will help to get into Training post in UK?. (1 year housejob from the country of study and another year internship from home country)
Yes, would met the minimum requirement of 12 month internship and 12 month further clinical experience after internship. Would obviously have to meet other requirements for GMC licence and entry into specialty training.
hello, I am from Bangladesh. I have just completed my 1-year internship program and also failed twice to get any seats for PLAB. I saw a post on your page that I could do a training program in the UK without needing PLAB/ or MRCP. How do I do that?
I have cleared my mrcpch in 2019 becoz of covid i was unable to do the process of shifting.I cleared oet now. I have four experience in peds. Shal i apply for st4 jobs now
Hi Ibreez are you willing to step up as a locum consultant ? there is nothing preventing you from doing so ? would you do that ? also there is nothing preventing an SHO to step up as a registrar , we know how crest form are signed back in south Asia. do not play with some ones career with wrong advices please.
If someone is falsifying documents, then that is on them and the recruiter. We are not promoting or suggesting anything of the such, nor do we know of how 'things are done' in South Asia. We provide information that is already stated and valid, not loopholes and ways to cheat the system. But to answer your question, yes, I would take up roles and responsibilities that I am qualified and have experience for and not undersell myself just because I am an IMG.
Should the CREST form be signed by November (at the time of application) or if we get it by August of next year, we can still apply in November this season?
Thank u very much for ur nice info. I'm pediatric Surgeon in my home country. After i completed MRCS A and B wz oet, can i apply to cardio thoracic surgery which is a run through speciality training? Or any restrictions? Thank you.
Dear Dr. Ibreez I would like to join a training program in the UK, however, I have more than 10 years clinical gap. During this long time , I took a Ph.D. and worked in the medical research field. My question Am I still eligible to apply for a speciality training or UKMLE??
It will be very difficult to get into training with such a long gap in your clinical practice. It would be advisable to seek clinical work in your home country first before applying for UK specialty training.
A little off topic but i was wondering if internal medicine is only core training and you have to do a specialty after that, is there like a separate internal medicine ward? And are the consultants who take rounds there also specialists who have completed internal medicine training? If so then arnt they suppose to be in their specialty wards taking rounds there? Or do they do both? Because in my country internal medicine is seperate from other medical specialties and we have internal medicine consultants in internal medicine wards.
Most medical consultants hold what is called a dual certification - so they are specialized in general internal medicine + their specialty. They will see both types of patients. Starting this year, a new training pathway has been created for just general internal medicine.
Hi Thanks for your wonderful news, I am planning to get into plastic surgery training ST3 , I am registered with plab 1 & 2 , I want to pass MRCS exams this year and work as junior clinical fellow for 1 or 2 year to enrich my CV and then apply. Is it a reasonable approach? Do you think I will have a chance?
Hi I did my mbbs and md in community medicine in India (2021 completed ) I hv been working with WHO for the last one year I wish to join pediatrics training in uk but my MD is not valid for any royal college so I need to give plab for gmc registration Does the non clinical experience create gap in my cv ? Do I need to repeat foundation years as well ?
Starting as an ST3 without NHS experience is usually a bad idea. All IMGs that I’ve seen that have skipped NHS working experience or have directly jumped into higher training positions are usually not ready for the job and in some cases even incompetent for the level. Sorry, but this is unacceptable. There are no shortcuts and these type of things make the rest of the IMGs look bad. Please stop giving this type of advise.
@@itsomethingreat *Advice We are only stating what is an option to be done. You've stated you know IMGs who've struggled, but we can also speak of IMGs who've excelled. Ultimately, it is a personal choice but everyone has the right to know their options.
Thanks for all your info. There is so much negativity surrounding img going to the uk. U are 1 of the few that push past the negativity and give objective info.
Glad to help!!
I am always glad to listen to your videos. Thank you
Glad you like them!
I think higher speciality training competencies needs to signed by NHS consultant
Not for all specialties.
So, 2 questions:
1. Can the post-internship experience be any full-time work as a licensed doctor (e.g. a small private hospital), or are there specific requirements or settings where one is required to practise?
2. Let's say someone passes PLAB 2 and applies for GMC registration, but the deadline for applications for specialty training is very soon and they won't be able to get their registration by that time. Can they apply for specialty training (and submit their CREST form etc) in that situation?
Can you please do a video on public health specialty training program
Can you please make a video explaining criteria for applicants with gap in clinical practice ( between graduation and internship)
Please see: ruclips.net/video/TvQZXVrmjYo/видео.html
That's nicely explained. I have joined core psychiatry training this year without any prior experience. It's not always about advantages I guess. Personal circumstances, preferences and overall training conditions play a part in this. Best wishes.
Hi congratulations on getting into psychiatry training can you guide me how to get into it
Good luck!
Hello @Dr Rashid, Congratulations on starting residency. I would like to know how to went about this. I am targeting the November round of applications. What advice can you give me with relation to building a portfolio, I would appreciate greatly
For instance if you had a CREST form signed, was it by a NHS Consultant registered with GMC?
@@smokyhs2 crest form need to be signed off by any consultant / reg who has supervised you. Not necessarily gmc registered. No prior experience needed to apply for core psych training.
doc. Thank u for such informative videos
I have completed the royal college exams and waiting for my GMC. Most people have advised me to start with a non-training jobs rather than applying for ST3 directly. But i feel it would just delay the process of getting a cct.
Can u plz tell me what r the risks involved and if it is at all advisable to start as ST3 in the UK if someone gets the chance? Is it even manageable? Any private academy or anything that could give induction for the same if required or is their shadowing first before starting as a st3?
Can you please make a detailed discussion on CESR and CEGPR? I want to know how long the process usually takes, the most efficient ways to submit evidence, the difficulties that can be encountered in the process, etc.
Can u guide what is cesr
@@iqramemon2686stands as Certification to enter speciality register
Just need to confirm. People in the IMG group spread doom and gloom, and suggest directly starting as ST1 (especially GPST1) is bound to lead to medicolegal issues. Apparently a lot of trainees get demoted or kicked out of programs. They suggest to always have prior NHS experience before accepting any training role. What are your thoughts on this?
Firstly, everyone talks about their bad experiences or rumors of bad experiences. We as humans gravitate to negativity. Now, will you as an IMG know everything about the NHS from day one? No.
Strangely, you will never hear anyone dissaude an IMG from directly doing PGY-1 training in the USA. Do they know everything about the US healthcare system from day one? Unlikely.
Now what can you do to mitigate potential problems?
1) We have provided many videos, articles, and booklets that can help you familiarize yourself.
2) GMC has many topics discussing how to approach care that you can read.
3) Know your limitations and ask questions.
It may sound really blunt and perhaps rude, but many times IMGs get into trouble because they feel by asking for help or being open about the fact that they don't know something that they will look weak or incapable. This then puts them in potentially catastrophic situations.
We need to be able to be open about what we can and cannot do. Seek advice from your colleagues and supervisors. When in doubt, ask for help. That's all it comes down to.
@@RoadToUK Thank you so much! Yes, I did think it's strange no one dissuades IMGs from applying to PGY-1 positions in the US. Like I always wondered what's so special about working in the NHS compared to the US that it couldn't be learned about from online resources/clinical attachments. (I believe the US healthcare system is equally complex with complex protocols, pre-authorisations and whatnot. But strangely, nobody considers IMGs not good enough for not knowing about these from day 1.)
You have cleared the doubts I had of applying for training posts. :) Once again, thank you!
Great video, Could you make a video regarding ST3 Requirements
👍
Is it possible to apply with only plab 1 and later finish plab 2 and get gmc registration before training starting date if possible when should we have to provide gmc registration at time of offer or offer hold deadline ?
Finish plab 2 and gmc registration first. All this takes a lot of time, and by the time u apply, you need full GMC registration, which itself takes about 2-3 months post PLAB 2 result. So aim at getting registered first
Hello, i need help in one particular question, if i have completed my internship but i am not registered in that country and never worked fully as a doctor, do i still need to provide CGS to gmc for full registration? I am a fresh grad. So i really do not have a full registration with the country where i completed my medical school and internship. And if the answer is no, how do I explain them about that.
Hi. Thanks a lot for the advice. Wana know which camera u r using? I like the video quality!
It's a logitech webcam!
Hello Dr!! I am pathologist in my home country. Recently I cleared my plab exam. Can you guide me on my path for pathology in uk.
i have done MD internal medicine from nepal, usmle step 1, 2, 3. how to enter specialty training in uk/ irlenad
Hi Ibreez. Thank you for the useful sharing. I would like to ask your opinion in my case. I arrived in the UK couple of months ago under a spouse visa and I am fully qualified medical specialist/physician in my own country. In addition, I just passed my OET recently. I already registered the application for GMC. My question is, what are the pathways I have to practice my speciality, here? Fyi, I havent sit for PLAB, or any offer for certificate of any sponsorship. What choice do I have? Thank you.
Please see: ruclips.net/video/z4UghNcKl4U/видео.html
@@RoadToUK thanks a lot!
Salam maam.
Maam kindly can you guide me regarding cpd points and online courses i can take for boosting my CV and which websites are useful.
Thanks.
Can I by pass CT1 and CT2 if I have three years of work experience in my home country with MRCP 1 and 2 ?
Can a senior resident whom I have worked under as a JR, sign my crest form? This senior resident is now registered with the GMC and working as specialty doctor in Oncology. Can he sign my CREST form as I have worked under him for 1 year during my JRship?
Thank you for this video. I would be very thankful if you could answer this question. If I already have a 12 month internship equivalent, and then I work 10-12 months in the country I graduated from (Hungary), and after that apply for non-training FY-2 level jobs, will I be considered overqualified for internal medicine core training? Thank you in advance!
There's no overqualification for internal medicine training.
Thanks for another great video! You've talk about having to complete 12 months post internship experience. Is there a chance to fidn work in the UK right after intership in home country (i.e. get full GMC registration with license but without any other experience)? I couldn't find a video on that.
Yes. Please see: ruclips.net/video/TG0gJGlICD4/видео.html
Great video, thank you:
Glad you liked it!
If I want to apply for this year november (after 2 months) gp training, do I need to clear my MRSA before November?? Or I can apply and do it later till the training actually starts?
Let's say I've completed my internship back home and also worked the house job for a year. Passed my plab 2,therefore got my gmc registration.Does that make me eligible for joining a training program at ST1/CT1 and therefore can i skip the FY-2.
yup
Please see: ruclips.net/video/TG0gJGlICD4/видео.html
Mam I have finished my post graduation in family medicine from India and wants to enter gp training in uk , I do not have any Gmc registration and totally confused regarding how to proceed ,
Hlw Dr Ebreez . I know you from my medical school. you are my senior of my medical college. Mymensingh Medical College M 49 batch. I just passed my plab 2 .gmc registration on processing . I really need one suggestion from you. As I came to the UK 2021 and then I don't have clinical experience till now . However, since I passed 2018 till 2021 I had clinical experience with that will I be able to apply MRSA training program? Because I am in skilled worker visa with a care company. Please let me know 🙏 I would be grateful. thank you
We need a video about salary for gb in uk especially who is recently finish plab 2 thanks 🎉
It's been made already!
@@RoadToUK that's great
If I’m still a student at 3rd year can i do an internship for month in hospital there in UK?
I don’t live there
Thank you for your valuable information
For urology ST3, can you link requirements for IMG having 12 months post internship experience outside NHS and Full GMC registration ? Is it possible to bypass core training to ST3?
No, your internship is equal to fy1 and u still have to do fy2 before going into any ST program.
Nice video.. Doing Housejob(internship training) for 2 years will help to get into Training post in UK?.
(1 year housejob from the country of study and another year internship from home country)
Yes, would met the minimum requirement of 12 month internship and 12 month further clinical experience after internship. Would obviously have to meet other requirements for GMC licence and entry into specialty training.
hello, I am from Bangladesh. I have just completed my 1-year internship program and also failed twice to get any seats for PLAB. I saw a post on your page that I could do a training program in the UK without needing PLAB/ or MRCP. How do I do that?
Are you referring to this: ruclips.net/video/-gPDJmIfKsc/видео.htmlsi=zbH6CAC-wuWnmAdL
I have cleared my mrcpch in 2019 becoz of covid i was unable to do the process of shifting.I cleared oet now. I have four experience in peds. Shal i apply for st4 jobs now
If i have 7years experiance in psychiatry hospital abroad as resident doctor ,can i find a job?
How to give MSRA from india ..Is it valid for that year only?
Hi Ibreez are you willing to step up as a locum consultant ? there is nothing preventing you from doing so ? would you do that ? also there is nothing preventing an SHO to step up as a registrar , we know how crest form are signed back in south Asia. do not play with some ones career with wrong advices please.
If someone is falsifying documents, then that is on them and the recruiter. We are not promoting or suggesting anything of the such, nor do we know of how 'things are done' in South Asia. We provide information that is already stated and valid, not loopholes and ways to cheat the system.
But to answer your question, yes, I would take up roles and responsibilities that I am qualified and have experience for and not undersell myself just because I am an IMG.
Should the CREST form be signed by November (at the time of application) or if we get it by August of next year, we can still apply in November this season?
If there is no indication on the form that there is an expiry date, and the training portal states no set validity, then it is fine to use.
If you have FULL GMC REGISTRATION but no license to pratice. Is it still possible to apply?
Yes, but you will need to regain your license to practice before you can start.
Thank u very much for ur nice info.
I'm pediatric Surgeon in my home country. After i completed MRCS A and B wz oet, can i apply to cardio thoracic surgery which is a run through speciality training? Or any restrictions? Thank you.
I'm doing ms ophthalmology in India. Do i need to clear plab to work in uk as a surgical ophthalmologist Or write some other exam?
Does working in a non training job count under the 12-month required post internship experience to get into IMT -1 or internal medicine training?
Yes.
hi where to apply directly and how to search for that
i mean the sites
ORIEL
Where can i apply for specialty training? Is there any website to apply? TIA
ORIEL
Dear Dr. Ibreez
I would like to join a training program in the UK, however, I have more than 10 years clinical gap. During this long time , I took a Ph.D. and worked in the medical research field.
My question
Am I still eligible to apply for a speciality training or UKMLE??
It will be very difficult to get into training with such a long gap in your clinical practice. It would be advisable to seek clinical work in your home country first before applying for UK specialty training.
I just passed mrcog part 1..am i eligible for CREST or MSRA...i Don't have any GMC registration
You can't work as a doctor in the NHS without GMC registration.
Thank you
You're welcome 😁
Helo mam am a Physician Assistant from India.
Can you guide me to proceed to UK
Can senior doctors of Bangladesh sign my CREST? Will it be accepted? I am interested in surgery.
Are they consultants?
@@RoadToUK Assistant professor.
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A little off topic but i was wondering if internal medicine is only core training and you have to do a specialty after that, is there like a separate internal medicine ward? And are the consultants who take rounds there also specialists who have completed internal medicine training? If so then arnt they suppose to be in their specialty wards taking rounds there? Or do they do both? Because in my country internal medicine is seperate from other medical specialties and we have internal medicine consultants in internal medicine wards.
Most medical consultants hold what is called a dual certification - so they are specialized in general internal medicine + their specialty. They will see both types of patients.
Starting this year, a new training pathway has been created for just general internal medicine.
Hi
Thanks for your wonderful news, I am planning to get into plastic surgery training ST3 , I am registered with plab 1 & 2 , I want to pass MRCS exams this year and work as junior clinical fellow for 1 or 2 year to enrich my CV and then apply.
Is it a reasonable approach? Do you think I will have a chance?
Hi
I did my mbbs and md in community medicine in India (2021 completed )
I hv been working with WHO for the last one year
I wish to join pediatrics training in uk but my MD is not valid for any royal college so I need to give plab for gmc registration
Does the non clinical experience create gap in my cv ? Do I need to repeat foundation years as well ?
Nice
Thanks!
MS →mch(India )→ mrcs →fellowship
Vs
MS(India)→ MRCS → ST3 -8 ( in subspecialty)
Vs
Ms → mrcs → non training jobs → ST3-8
?
Please guide for IMG
Only you can answer thiss question. What are your long term goals, aspirations and plans.
til pheran ❤❤
😊
British patients want British physicians. End of. We need to train more British doctors
Yes so they can leave to Australia 😅😅😅😅
Good luck with that
British patients who want British doctors can always go to Australia 👍
Starting as an ST3 without NHS experience is usually a bad idea. All IMGs that I’ve seen that have skipped NHS working experience or have directly jumped into higher training positions are usually not ready for the job and in some cases even incompetent for the level. Sorry, but this is unacceptable. There are no shortcuts and these type of things make the rest of the IMGs look bad. Please stop giving this type of advise.
@@itsomethingreat *Advice
We are only stating what is an option to be done. You've stated you know IMGs who've struggled, but we can also speak of IMGs who've excelled.
Ultimately, it is a personal choice but everyone has the right to know their options.
Thank you so much for clarifying this point really appreciate it
I have a query please let me know how to contact you
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