I knew I could rely on you for a fair and balanced look at it. Sadly after my F1 22 purchase, which was my first dedicated F1 purchase since Grand Prix 4 back in the day, there just isn't enough to convince me to fork out another £60 for this. The '22 stability in lower gears could've been fixed with a patch rather than waiting for a new game to make it bearable.
I wish Grand Prix 4 had safety cars and red flags. If it did there would literally be no reason to ever play the official F1 games. I'm so sad we never got GP5...
It's so hard to find proper review about this title,but you managed to answer my questions in one short review in depth! Has to quit ACC and iRacing since it required a big time investment and yet I earned to try to play something from time to time, I hope that my DD won't be an overkill for this simcade 😅 Thank you, truly an amazing review, very informative and straight to the point 👍
I agree, I feel like a lot of sim players need to realise it’s not meant to be similar. It’s for the wider gaming community. Just have to view it differently than sim and you’ll have alot of fun
I'm a hardcore ACC racer play everyday and I'm in 3 leagues a week and do endurance racing when available. I have also tried f123 recently and all though the drive is no where as a sim as ACC I enjoy it sometimes after racing a pure sim for many hours f123 is a perfect way to end the day. I did not like f122 at all so I'm really glad they fixed most of the game
Another hardcore ACC player here👍 f122 was simply terrible and 23 really is a breath of fresh air. Sadly burnt out on ACC, just chasing tenths on every track with no career mode that can pull you in and crash kids online. Don't have time for leagues unfortunately.
there is no doubt that AC is better for trully passionates for sim racing, but for 90 % of human beings f1 23 is a really really really good game. F1 22 wasn't. I don't like noob friendly games, but even real drivers said it was unrealistic how difficult it was to drive the car.
For single player its a great game this year. While the FFB and physics might be better in some games they don't come close to the same offline experience for everything else. Managing tyres, fuel, ERS over a 100% race is simply unbeatable for any sim currently. The different strategy's the AI use, SC, weather etc is unmatched by any sim currently from my pov. Sure some have F1 cars but none will give you the same F1 racing experience imo. The only game that you could get a similar experience is AC through mods but the AI are terrible in that game. AMS2 doesn't have all the tracks or most of the F1 rules. Not only that but if it rains the AI are unaffected until the track requires full wets. So far I am really enjoying the game, sure nothing has changed in my team but the rest of the game is a step in the right direction. It will never be a sim but it is far from arcade either. Its tough enough to be fun but not so tough 95% of the people can't complete 5 laps without spinning. Again it has bugs but what game doesn't. For someone who has owned all the games since 2010, I can say this is the best one yet.
The AI stuff with AMS2 is just so frustrating. I have zero motivation to race against an AI who so blatantly cheats, reminds me of rubberbanding in the old need for speed games.
@@Sergio-lh5xv Couldn't agree more, no AI is using the same physics but with AMS2 its so obvious when racing them. Like you say they also feel very rubberbanding to race against. Honestly don't get why some rate them as being good to race with. For all its faults, the F1 game is by far the best single player racing game. It might not be a sim like AC etc but its great fun this year. Would rather the physics over AMS2 also, drifty cars but to forgiving.
Bought last years game for the first time and to be honest it was very frustrating. I am not a sim racer in the least bit but I wanted to play something more real but boy was I pissed. However based on positive previews and reviews I bought 23. Off the bat a lot less frustrating. Something you didn't mention but I think worth noting is the part of the game called Series. It sort of holds your hand and gradually introduces you to different tracks and harder racing. It really helped me jump into the game. In last year's game I was so overwhelmed I spent 90 percent of my time doing time trials on Australia as I didn't feel really pushed to do anything in particular.
Great take on F123 dude, I'd have to agree with everything you've said. Being an Automobilista 2 guy, you can't have a full immersive F1 Career with great AI there, but with this you can.
I'm not sure the more "vibrant" force feedback of things like AC with the paid for F1 cars are more realisitic. Most real car feedback is through your backside, not thru a bucking bronco of a wheel. F1 series the only racing game I play after trying many of the more serious ones.
Most channels are just rubbish when it comes to their review on this game.. they just make it to get some views. But this was an actual review of the game. Thanks for this mate, it helped me jump on the wagon and with the expectations in the right place.
I like the f1 games, been playing every single one since f1 2010, but its not because of the realism, but more cause I enjoy the sport. But if I wanna do competative racing, my choice is iR, yes it has it flaws but its fine in my world
Great review. I'm mostly interested in this because of the center seat nature of the cars. ACC is great but without vr it feels like I'm boxed into a tiny corner of the car with blinders on if I'm in the cockpit view, drives me nuts (pun intended).
i got like 3k hours in iRacing and few hundred in acc, last f1 game i played was the 19 version, must say that i am actually positively surprised by this game, the riding is challenging yet fun, not sure how long it'll stick for me but for now it's fun
Nice video again. Could you provide your camera settings please ? I'm playing only in cockpit mode. It looks to me that your camera is very close, a little too much for my taste...Thanks...! As for F1 23 being close to be a real Sim Racing Game, I think they are closing the gap with the best Sim games actually. I won't play iRacing because of the cost and the poor graphics (very poor...).
Thanks Jean! So I essentially use the settings from the cockpit cam settings video I made but adjust the vertical offset depending on the car and dash visibility. ruclips.net/video/H3c_JCJ6PGM/видео.html
Okay, so maybe I'm just ill-informed, but when you're playing driver career mode, your contract ends one race before the season. So if you want to sign with a new team you'll immediately lose the constructor's championship. Championship. Is there a way to amend this so that you can finish out the season with the team you started with?
Oh mate you’re kidding me really?! That sounds like a pretty game breaking thing. I haven’t gotten in to a career yet so don’t have experience of it. Have you checked the latest patch notes?
Thanks for the honest review, can you confirm if VR is better than in 22 or at least improved? I am only interested in the sim side too and the handling and physics certainly seems to have made a big difference but nobody has said much about the VR and if it’s anywhere near AMS2 or Raceroom yet. Thanks.
Thanks Piers buddy - appreciate that. Unfortunately I don’t run VR so can’t say for certain. Someone else commented below that it’s basically identical to last year though.
I tried out the new version and gave it back due to the graphics qualitiy in VR. I only race in VR and this was not good enough for me. It was not a Performance issue with my Reverb G2 and a 4080. I had constant 90 fps on ultra settings, but in mid and far distance the visuals were too much blury. In these days I'd expect something better for 70€. It Kills the Immersion for me. 🥺👎
I just bought myself a sim racing rig with the CSL DD. I got into sim racing because my brother has his own rig and he let me try auto mobalista 2. After driving F1, F2, and F3 cars. I just knew I had to build my own rig because of the feel of the car. It felt like I was actually driving and fighting the car. Just wanted to know if I’ll get that same experience for F1 23 or should I just wait and see for F1 24?
Hey buddy - great you’re building your own rig! Every sim handles differently, but I’d say the F1 series give you a bit less feedback than full sims like AMS 2, Assetto Corsa, iracing or rFactor 2. It’s still lots of fun though and you could pick up 23 cheap now (possibly free with game pass ultimate) and 24 comes out in May.
@@Ben_LaBrocaThanks for getting back! I’ll definitely check it out and the other ones you mentioned as well. I’m excited to get racing soon. Unfortunately, Fanatec is taking a very long time to ship my stuff. Hopefully I’ll see you out there in the community and race together!
i found this game more realistic than most sims tbh, feels much more believable than ams2 for example, just turn the in game damping to zero and it feels much better
F1 2011 - F1 2012 - F1 2021, and they all fail hard. With 2021 i heard people say: "Its much better" and now i hear it again. I will go for F1 2023 when its down into the 10-15 euro range. EA should create a PC experience (M&KB, and full control calibration options for wheels and pedals, FULL VOF cockpit settings, movable mirrors and good physics into FFB translation) and a Console experience for joypad 3rd P racing.
I need to choose a wheel for the r9 base. The options are moza cs or the Simline porche gt3 second hand. Both costs around the same price which one do you recommend?
Hey Daniel! I’m not 100% sure to be honest buddy having never tried either, but I have myself looked at that Simline wheel and thought it looks beautiful! Just double check what the deal is with quick releases etc!
Is the AI better than in AMS2? I think this is the main simracing competitor for F1 games. I always had more fun with the F1 games than with AMS2, which for me has always been a frustrating game...please take a look at the online multiplayer in F1 23!
The AI is miles better than AMS2 imo. If you give them room and don't divebomb from 50M back, they will race you hard and fair. I wouldn't say they cant be easy to bully but if you race them like you would a real person (or just by racing rules) they are great. Tyre wear plays a huge role this year, possibly over done? However the strategy used by all drivers (many mixed) 100% races are great fun. I believe 50% races and below are normally a 1 stop but you would struggle to make up time in shorter races anyway. AMS2 AI are so obvious when it comes to racing them, its clear they aren't running the same physics as the player (worst game for it imo) Not only that but they feel like they rubberband. Overall I would actually rate 23 over AMS2 especially for single player racing. The physics this year are actually really good compared to all the other games. Still not a sim like AC but I would prefer it over the ultimate gen 2 in AMS2.
@@TypeRTeg yeah I’d generally agree with that critique of AMS 2 ai. There’s some maddening moments where you’re down the inside and somehow they just manage to brake waaaaay later and take the corner at a rapid speed to hold the position 😂
@@Ben_LaBroca Yeah, so many times they have taken a line that is impossible to carry speed but still manage to overtake you. Not only that but if you are ahead, like you say they brake way later than usual and can often just take you out. When it comes to changing conditions there the worst around. Can still lap at dry pace when the track is damp/wet. Sure they race you hard but the way they do it makes it no fun imo.
Aye I have to pretend very hard that I can’t see F1 World and that the in game livery editor hasn’t remained rubbish while at the same time they’ve dedicated resources to custom settees and wall art…
F1 is the same yearly garbage as before for sim racers... the PC market is always overlooked. Stick with AMS2 and RRE if you want the most sim racing experience for your money (and access to many other car types and tracks, etc...)
EA have destroyed what codies did well ... now we have stupid child like story mode ... fake cash ... those who love f 1 dont want that crap ... we want an f 1 game ... gone are the days of putting in classic cars like from 1999 1988 etc .. and old tracks ... i have been buying these games now since f 1 97 on ps 1 ... trust me its not worth the 80 quid i paid .. this will be the last for me at full price
I knew I could rely on you for a fair and balanced look at it. Sadly after my F1 22 purchase, which was my first dedicated F1 purchase since Grand Prix 4 back in the day, there just isn't enough to convince me to fork out another £60 for this. The '22 stability in lower gears could've been fixed with a patch rather than waiting for a new game to make it bearable.
I wish Grand Prix 4 had safety cars and red flags. If it did there would literally be no reason to ever play the official F1 games.
I'm so sad we never got GP5...
Its a great handling Model the Cars are so much fun to drive
F1 2020 far better
This is a fail imo opinion why they taken the traditional podium tune away
welcome in the world of ea sports bud
It's so hard to find proper review about this title,but you managed to answer my questions in one short review in depth! Has to quit ACC and iRacing since it required a big time investment and yet I earned to try to play something from time to time, I hope that my DD won't be an overkill for this simcade 😅
Thank you, truly an amazing review, very informative and straight to the point 👍
how is it going so far? I'm in the same boat as u.
I'm actually enjoying it. It's not a sim but the handling is fun. You can actually catch the car now.
I agree, I feel like a lot of sim players need to realise it’s not meant to be similar. It’s for the wider gaming community.
Just have to view it differently than sim and you’ll have alot of fun
I'm a hardcore ACC racer play everyday and I'm in 3 leagues a week and do endurance racing when available. I have also tried f123 recently and all though the drive is no where as a sim as ACC I enjoy it sometimes after racing a pure sim for many hours f123 is a perfect way to end the day. I did not like f122 at all so I'm really glad they fixed most of the game
Yeah I think I’m the same really - alongside mainlining iRacing for competitive online racing, a more casual or offline title is a great alternative.
Another hardcore ACC player here👍 f122 was simply terrible and 23 really is a breath of fresh air. Sadly burnt out on ACC, just chasing tenths on every track with no career mode that can pull you in and crash kids online. Don't have time for leagues unfortunately.
there is no doubt that AC is better for trully passionates for sim racing, but for 90 % of human beings f1 23 is a really really really good game. F1 22 wasn't. I don't like noob friendly games, but even real drivers said it was unrealistic how difficult it was to drive the car.
Nice review, thanks. I'm a "simcade" kind of player, so I'll be getting this when it's decently priced.
Fantastic review..i waited it out, just bought champions edition for £26.99...seems like a good deal.
For single player its a great game this year. While the FFB and physics might be better in some games they don't come close to the same offline experience for everything else. Managing tyres, fuel, ERS over a 100% race is simply unbeatable for any sim currently. The different strategy's the AI use, SC, weather etc is unmatched by any sim currently from my pov. Sure some have F1 cars but none will give you the same F1 racing experience imo. The only game that you could get a similar experience is AC through mods but the AI are terrible in that game. AMS2 doesn't have all the tracks or most of the F1 rules. Not only that but if it rains the AI are unaffected until the track requires full wets. So far I am really enjoying the game, sure nothing has changed in my team but the rest of the game is a step in the right direction. It will never be a sim but it is far from arcade either. Its tough enough to be fun but not so tough 95% of the people can't complete 5 laps without spinning. Again it has bugs but what game doesn't. For someone who has owned all the games since 2010, I can say this is the best one yet.
The AI stuff with AMS2 is just so frustrating. I have zero motivation to race against an AI who so blatantly cheats, reminds me of rubberbanding in the old need for speed games.
@@Sergio-lh5xv Couldn't agree more, no AI is using the same physics but with AMS2 its so obvious when racing them. Like you say they also feel very rubberbanding to race against. Honestly don't get why some rate them as being good to race with. For all its faults, the F1 game is by far the best single player racing game. It might not be a sim like AC etc but its great fun this year. Would rather the physics over AMS2 also, drifty cars but to forgiving.
Bought last years game for the first time and to be honest it was very frustrating. I am not a sim racer in the least bit but I wanted to play something more real but boy was I pissed. However based on positive previews and reviews I bought 23. Off the bat a lot less frustrating. Something you didn't mention but I think worth noting is the part of the game called Series. It sort of holds your hand and gradually introduces you to different tracks and harder racing. It really helped me jump into the game. In last year's game I was so overwhelmed I spent 90 percent of my time doing time trials on Australia as I didn't feel really pushed to do anything in particular.
Ngl I was literally just thinking of F123 and looking for a vid on it, perfect timing
Haha pleased to have timed that well! 😅😅
Great take on F123 dude, I'd have to agree with everything you've said. Being an Automobilista 2 guy, you can't have a full immersive F1 Career with great AI there, but with this you can.
I'm not sure the more "vibrant" force feedback of things like AC with the paid for F1 cars are more realisitic. Most real car feedback is through your backside, not thru a bucking bronco of a wheel.
F1 series the only racing game I play after trying many of the more serious ones.
Most channels are just rubbish when it comes to their review on this game.. they just make it to get some views. But this was an actual review of the game. Thanks for this mate, it helped me jump on the wagon and with the expectations in the right place.
I like the f1 games, been playing every single one since f1 2010, but its not because of the realism, but more cause I enjoy the sport. But if I wanna do competative racing, my choice is iR, yes it has it flaws but its fine in my world
Good mix buddy - and you’re absolutely right re enjoying it as a fan of the sport!
Great review. I'm mostly interested in this because of the center seat nature of the cars. ACC is great but without vr it feels like I'm boxed into a tiny corner of the car with blinders on if I'm in the cockpit view, drives me nuts (pun intended).
Never heard of the series, got it free for ps5 for the month. Im enjoying it as a casual racing fan. It cures my go-kart itch during the winter lol.
So far I’m enjoying the game. Handling feels great.
The handling def feels like an upgrade to previous titles and I’ve played them all
i got like 3k hours in iRacing and few hundred in acc, last f1 game i played was the 19 version, must say that i am actually positively surprised by this game, the riding is challenging yet fun, not sure how long it'll stick for me but for now it's fun
Nice video again. Could you provide your camera settings please ? I'm playing only in cockpit mode. It looks to me that your camera is very close, a little too much for my taste...Thanks...! As for F1 23 being close to be a real Sim Racing Game, I think they are closing the gap with the best Sim games actually. I won't play iRacing because of the cost and the poor graphics (very poor...).
Thanks Jean! So I essentially use the settings from the cockpit cam settings video I made but adjust the vertical offset depending on the car and dash visibility. ruclips.net/video/H3c_JCJ6PGM/видео.html
Okay, so maybe I'm just ill-informed, but when you're playing driver career mode, your contract ends one race before the season. So if you want to sign with a new team you'll immediately lose the constructor's championship. Championship. Is there a way to amend this so that you can finish out the season with the team you started with?
Oh mate you’re kidding me really?! That sounds like a pretty game breaking thing. I haven’t gotten in to a career yet so don’t have experience of it. Have you checked the latest patch notes?
An instant sub. Enjoyed the review.
Ah thank you man - really appreciate it!
I always seem to be watching RUclips as you post a new video 😂 it’s great for me!
Haha my bet is you spend a lot of time on YT!! 😂
Thanks for the honest review, can you confirm if VR is better than in 22 or at least improved? I am only interested in the sim side too and the handling and physics certainly seems to have made a big difference but nobody has said much about the VR and if it’s anywhere near AMS2 or Raceroom yet. Thanks.
Thanks Piers buddy - appreciate that. Unfortunately I don’t run VR so can’t say for certain. Someone else commented below that it’s basically identical to last year though.
I tried out the new version and gave it back due to the graphics qualitiy in VR. I only race in VR and this was not good enough for me. It was not a Performance issue with my Reverb G2 and a 4080. I had constant 90 fps on ultra settings, but in mid and far distance the visuals were too much blury. In these days I'd expect something better for 70€. It Kills the Immersion for me.
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I just bought myself a sim racing rig with the CSL DD. I got into sim racing because my brother has his own rig and he let me try auto mobalista 2. After driving F1, F2, and F3 cars. I just knew I had to build my own rig because of the feel of the car. It felt like I was actually driving and fighting the car. Just wanted to know if I’ll get that same experience for F1 23 or should I just wait and see for F1 24?
Hey buddy - great you’re building your own rig! Every sim handles differently, but I’d say the F1 series give you a bit less feedback than full sims like AMS 2, Assetto Corsa, iracing or rFactor 2.
It’s still lots of fun though and you could pick up 23 cheap now (possibly free with game pass ultimate) and 24 comes out in May.
@@Ben_LaBrocaThanks for getting back! I’ll definitely check it out and the other ones you mentioned as well. I’m excited to get racing soon. Unfortunately, Fanatec is taking a very long time to ship my stuff. Hopefully I’ll see you out there in the community and race together!
@@joroll26 ah it seems to have been a problem for many people. I hope your stuff arrives soon!
i found this game more realistic than most sims tbh, feels much more believable than ams2 for example, just turn the in game damping to zero and it feels much better
F1 2011 - F1 2012 - F1 2021, and they all fail hard. With 2021 i heard people say: "Its much better" and now i hear it again. I will go for F1 2023 when its down into the 10-15 euro range. EA should create a PC experience (M&KB, and full control calibration options for wheels and pedals, FULL VOF cockpit settings, movable mirrors and good physics into FFB translation) and a Console experience for joypad 3rd P racing.
I need to choose a wheel for the r9 base. The options are moza cs or the Simline porche gt3 second hand. Both costs around the same price which one do you recommend?
Hey Daniel! I’m not 100% sure to be honest buddy having never tried either, but I have myself looked at that Simline wheel and thought it looks beautiful! Just double check what the deal is with quick releases etc!
ahhhhh.😢. Where’s Geoff Crammond? Come back Geoff, we need you.
For someone who hasn't purchased previous titles, would you recommend F1 23 for PC?
Providing you’re an F1 fan and like your racing primarily offline and on the more accessible side of things, then I’d say yes!
Is the AI better than in AMS2? I think this is the main simracing competitor for F1 games. I always had more fun with the F1 games than with AMS2, which for me has always been a frustrating game...please take a look at the online multiplayer in F1 23!
Hey Sergio - so I think it’s a lot better than AMS 2 for ai yeah, at least for now. I’ve been trying to get a server on F1 23 but no luck so far!
The AI is miles better than AMS2 imo. If you give them room and don't divebomb from 50M back, they will race you hard and fair. I wouldn't say they cant be easy to bully but if you race them like you would a real person (or just by racing rules) they are great. Tyre wear plays a huge role this year, possibly over done? However the strategy used by all drivers (many mixed) 100% races are great fun. I believe 50% races and below are normally a 1 stop but you would struggle to make up time in shorter races anyway. AMS2 AI are so obvious when it comes to racing them, its clear they aren't running the same physics as the player (worst game for it imo) Not only that but they feel like they rubberband. Overall I would actually rate 23 over AMS2 especially for single player racing. The physics this year are actually really good compared to all the other games. Still not a sim like AC but I would prefer it over the ultimate gen 2 in AMS2.
@@TypeRTeg yeah I’d generally agree with that critique of AMS 2 ai. There’s some maddening moments where you’re down the inside and somehow they just manage to brake waaaaay later and take the corner at a rapid speed to hold the position 😂
@@Ben_LaBroca Yeah, so many times they have taken a line that is impossible to carry speed but still manage to overtake you. Not only that but if you are ahead, like you say they brake way later than usual and can often just take you out. When it comes to changing conditions there the worst around. Can still lap at dry pace when the track is damp/wet. Sure they race you hard but the way they do it makes it no fun imo.
@@TypeRTegThe F1 games don't feature oversteer under braking and mid corner oversteer, they are not anywhere near any simulation, be it AC or AMS2.
Really enjoying this years game compared to previous versions
Cheers Andrew - yeah I’ve found my time on track with it a lot of fun overall!
Am I the only one who likes the f1 22 handling more then f1 23?
It's been four months. Long term review time?
Nice vid Ben well described I ain't gonna buy it.
Haha thanks Ray buddy - hope you’re keeping well 💪
This year has been the nail in the coffin. Expect mass decline in player base with upcoming years
will there still be weekly events in f1 2022?
I'll answer your question. Absolutely NOT. YOU CANT EVEN CUSTOMISE THE ON SCREEN DISPLAY.
Wanta PSVR2 DLC
I've pre-order every game since 14. Not this year since it went full EA. Really disappointing. Another franchise ruined.
Aye I have to pretend very hard that I can’t see F1 World and that the in game livery editor hasn’t remained rubbish while at the same time they’ve dedicated resources to custom settees and wall art…
I wont be buying it just yet. Will wait for discounts and bug fixes. I will play ams2, assetto corsa, and rFactor 2.
Great selection there buddy!
Do we need wifi to play career mode
I don’t think so buddy - I’m fairly sure the option was there to play while EA servers were down, but I’m not 100% sure
F1 is the same yearly garbage as before for sim racers... the PC market is always overlooked. Stick with AMS2 and RRE if you want the most sim racing experience for your money (and access to many other car types and tracks, etc...)
Can’t go wrong with RaceRoom for free right now!
EA have destroyed what codies did well ... now we have stupid child like story mode ... fake cash ... those who love f 1 dont want that crap ... we want an f 1 game ... gone are the days of putting in classic cars like from 1999 1988 etc .. and old tracks ... i have been buying these games now since f 1 97 on ps 1 ... trust me its not worth the 80 quid i paid .. this will be the last for me at full price