There’s something ironic with Fu stating that there are no “cruel” kwamis cause people aren’t like that, whilst Thomas is hellbent on a fictional 15 year old girl being the spawn of Satan and incapable of being good
Apparently kindess and cruelty are LEARNED behaviors... So explain to me, who was the first person to start it? Was it just self taught I guess? As if being territorial and aggressive isn't an extremely common trait in the wild... If anything its the opposite. Its INSTINCT to retaliate or be selfish, not a learned skill.
@@lasercraft32 it is learned... a child is a clean slate they do something and either are rewarded or punished based on the people around them. it's 50/50 that they do something kind or cruel but it's not with any intent just because they thought it was okay. If a child is being kind but gets trampled on and treated like a joke it'll try yelling and screaming (maybe a bit of violence). If they get attention from it... (most importantly, what they wanted) they LEARN that being cruel is how they get what they want.
@@sabertoothno34you're right, but there's clearly different types of learned behaviors. It's all technically learned, but there's traits that have to be taught to a child and then there're traits that naturally develop in some children and need to be taken care of early. Just because no one explicitly taught the child bad traits doesn't mean they won't develop those traits. There are behaviors that are actually taught or learned through observations, and then there are behaviors that develop on their own out of instinct, they are not the same.
So French is IMO definitely a quickie joke. The stereotype is that French people are very amorous. "Language of love" "city of love" "French kissing" etc...
We as a fandom don’t consider these awful comics canon. Especially Thomas denying Marinette being naked in NY & accusing a black family on smuggling her. I’m glad most people don’t know about it. The manga we got is better & respects the characters to make them grow
I don’t know it was lost media. I have the first five technically it feels like 3 1/2 issues including the episode adaptations I think I have a theory it was mentally to be part of the New York special maybe the people who are working on it redo it that we have the finalized version. I will try to sell the series off for my eBay from a lucky buyer.
10:00 "Is French people being horny a stereotype in America?" Is it not everywhere? Pepelapu is literally just THE french man stereotype in its purest form.
I read this comics online a few years ago. Yeah it's not really surprising because Thomas Astruc did both the writing and story credit. Plus, Marinette and Adrian (who are 14 or 15) were half naked in one of those comic books too. How that comic got approved is beyond me.
I’m pretty sure that these comics aren’t canon to the show, so that explains some of the inaccuracies. Also, what in the actual fuck was the justification for having a minor walking around naked in this comic?!
When people asked Astruk that he said it would make sense in the comics... It does not make sense in the comics so I don't know what he was going on about.
@@haileyburningham1586 I'm gonna guess he was required to say that to advertise them. The comics list two freelancers as the writers so it's hard to say how much input any of the show writers had.
I actually watched a video about this a couple of days ago. Child nudity. TOTALLY not creepy or gross. TOTALLY not a breeding ground for the wankiest wankers who ever wankered...
Marinette being naked is made worse by the fact that they had Chloe steal her clothes, and for some reason retcon her T-shirt and such that you pointed out, just so she can be naked. Normally a detail like that wouldn't matter, but in this case it does! What does this even add to the comic? What is the actual justification? Look, this kinda stuff might have it's place somewhere, but with adults only. When you do this with minors, it just becomes weird and creepy. Also they didn't do the same thing to Adrien?? Do you smell that??
About Marinette running nude across New York, I think it's the comic doing the classic, but understandably awkward cartoon trope where a character runs around naked in public and trying not to get seen by someone. The best example I could provide is _The Fairly OddParents_ episode, "Crime Wave", where Timmy runs around in Dimmsdale naked after wishing to be at the local comic book store. It also included a subplot where the Crimson Chin must battle against H2Olga while also babysitting. So, that's all I could explain, but it still doesn't stop this trope from being super awkward in the comics (I'm trying to avoid using the overused word), especially since _Miraculous Ladybug_ uses semi-detailed, semi-realistic designs for their characters.
I agree with this sentiment....up until the "Most Played" part of the video, thats just pushes this over the edge from the "silly funny haha naked person" to something that belongs in the shadow realm of the internet
When you brought up naked marinette it was like unlocking a memory I didn’t realize existed. I remember stumbling across a few of those pages on Pinterest years ago. I thought it was a fan comic that was gonna go somewhere else, if ya know what I mean. I never bothered to look for the full thing.
I’m pretty sure that the “SoOo FrEnCh” joke is about how doing something like going out to eat in France it’s basically more polite for eating to take more time, to the point where I know at least some schools there give an hour for lunch time. This is why the not Justice League is like “they’re SoOo FrEnCh” when Ladybug & Cat Noir ask for 10 minutes for themselves. Even with the supposed context, it still doesn’t really work as a joke IMO.
uh well you see French in most places in the world id known as the "language of love" so i think with that you can get the joke. also that's not the way to use racism as there are only 4 races and French def ant one of them.
Miraculous in general has done some real questionable things in their show too. I read the comic years ago. I almost stop supporting the series after that. The weird racism, Stereotypes, and inappropriate behaviors made me gag. How did a character like ghetto blaster even make through the first draft. A team of people had to approve this and they thought this was okay? Especially that outfit they gave Marinette. I know this show/comics isn't known for their fashion. which is a rant for another day with Marinette being a fashion student. Like come on! there is so much good black street fashion out there. Y2K fashion and other street fashion was literally popular when the comics came out. You gave us that! That comic went to the trash immediately.
Yes, I come from Europe myself and I have seen so much racist garbage that it's a drama, and when you talk about it, "You're too leftist" or, eh... Drama with all this
While I understand the message they were trying to convey with that scene of Marinette and the black guys, the comic shoots itself in the foot by having Marinette be naked and giving the black guys the most stereotypical names and designs they could've come up with.
I petition the serial killer kwami to be a meerkat, mainly beause real life meerkats have the highest murder rate for their own species next to humans.
Fun fact: Ghetto Blaster was the nickname my college girlfriend gave me whenever we got together on a Saturday night. This was my attempt at a Cinemasins joke.
lmao surprised you didn't see these before now! I remember when that last one you talked about came out and Astruc was trying to defend the blatant and weird racism in it. Actually crazy stuff
So, the first "Sooooo French" makes sense because there is a stereotype here in the US that French people are hyper-romantic and sexual. I don't know what the implication of the second "She's Sooooooo French" is supposed to be. With the controversial scene, why was Marinette naked? She was never that way for all her other transformations. The entire scenario feels forced. For all you fellow 'Muricans talking about how Marinette would have been right in her assumption, you're soft, and sheltered, leave your suburbs or small town and go downtown for once. Aside from that, yeah, imagine not assuming that they were movers. It's possible they had good intentions when they wrote that. Astruc has said that the point was that Marinette was stereotyping them. At the same time, there is such little care put into the idea, from the forced scenario to the weird street names it shows that at best, it was put in there so the writers could be on their moral high horse, and at worse, it's what Mr. Pants said, someone's thinly veiled script for BLACKED. I need to go back to those street names, though. I get why they named a dude Public Enemy, "Oh yeah, famous protest artists Public Enemy," Sure, though I don't know why that would be someone's nickname. Ghettoblaster? F6cking Ghettoblaster? How much do you guys want to bet that the writers for this comic don't even know what Ghettoblasting is? It would've been a somewhat funny moment if Marinette was like "Sorry for thinking you guys are criminals" and then the family responded with "It's okay, when we saw you in that box, we thought you were a crackhead." Alas, they probably can't say "crackhead" in a children's comic and I'm not sure if French has an equivalent or if that type of humor would land.
Mari says that she is going to save the world and those guys says "so french" so i dont think thats the implication or maybe its the implication that they intended in the first one but i'm still confused about the second one
that bit with Marinette meeting those guys really reminded me of the scene from Godzilla final wars and how they portrait New York, minus the naked 14 year old girl, seriously WTF? Zag approved that
I can at least, although spitefully, write down the ghetto blaster as The Writers Being Ignorant (American Edition). But Mari being naked is where the police needs to be called, bcs what the absolute fuck were they thinking?!
These comics (alongside some elements in the show and his tweets) are a great example to point to when talking about Astruc’s HORRIBLE relationship with race. I’ve gotten shit from so many fans who claim there’s no issue with it which is just surreal to me. Even though this comic is kind of lost media it’s not like his tweets or the weird stuff in the show regarding East Asians are. Miraculous Ladybug has a bunch of extremely racist elements and I feel it’s fucking overdue for an analysis of it that doesn’t try to brush it off. Just because it’s “well-meaning” doesn’t mean it’s not awfully executed .
The “evil can be innate, just look at serial killers” this is uncomfortable since many things go into if someone chooses to be cruel. Ignorance, anger, social situation, mental health, family and background.. I’m certain that being a cruel murderer is a choice and there are ways to help and raise those who have mental health issues so they don’t make that choice. Meanwhile there are people who are not mentally unwell who chose to hurt people because they have decided they don’t care about others- usually because they have tons of power or because they want to have that power over others
I got one for free comic day in my town back in 2017 (I remember because it was my prom day 😅) I never saw anything about the comics again and completely forgot of their existence
"Is french people being horny a common American stereotype?" YES! I am french and I can confirm that for some reason Americans think Europeans, and us French in particular, are indeed horny. I blame it on both Paris being stereotyped as the "City of Love and Romance" and on the genuine fact that our standards regarding sexual content and censors aren't as strict as for Americans (Code Lyoko, one of my favourite shows, is apparentely considered very fanservicy in America, when in our own country it's considered about average).
1:33 the worst thing of saying the art is bad is that i used to follow the artist on Instagram bc i admired her, I was on high school and she was so excited when she got a job working for miraculous 😭😭😭😭 like man, léase her artstyle alone, its just an artstyle its Not that bad, her former work is so much better tbh, maybe se was fishes or something
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
From the first comic, I can tell the artist is a My Little Pony fan. Not that it's a bad thing but just saying I could tell that the artist must have been drawing pony art since the face shapes kind of match up with how Fanart was styled. I'm not 100% sure since it's been years.
I’m sad to say that I actually have these comics. I got them when I was like 12 and I remember being excited about them but I was too young to realize how bad they actually were.💀
Yes, it's funny because it shows that the unofficial comic (I mean, official, because it's licensed, but not canon, because, well, we've all seen the series) made more effort to make Marinette at least look Asian
If they were relying on ladybugto repairall the damage why didn't they assume Cat Noir could beat trash kraken with a cat-aclysm also I hate that when it was revealed that Adrian's truncks survived his transformation my brain went "Yeah, a female who lost her clothes, people will help her and dress her. A dude loses his clothes, He gets arrested." the double standard is backed into the brain. Would have been better to NOT do the swim plot and clothing malfunction AT ALL. but they needed to pad the run time I guess Ain't no way they made a black superhero who calls himself "Public Enemy"
can't believe the worst hot take I've heard from Smarty Pants is that American cheese is good. I am american, and I can confirm that all cheese labeled american is awful. American cheese isn't even cheese! it's cheese product! Rethink your life Smarty Pants, and get a better opinion on cheese please!
American Cheese is weird, because on its own its kinda gross, BUT when _melted_ it tastes way better. English Muffin with ham and melted American cheese is really good imo.
I don't find these comics all that bad, because I've seen fanfictions with similar storylines and nonsensical lines. Regardless of the age and gender of the writers, it's just them using shock value comedy of the characters ending up either naked or in awkward situations. I do however think that situations like these in the comics should be done with adult characters, not teenagers who are barely 14.
I also like to think of "SO French!" being a play on words to the Mean Girls movie quote, "That's so fetch!". Yeah, it's doofy, but it works and keeps things kid-friendly
9:57 The " We need a moment of privacy. Ten minutes tops!" does make it sound like an inappropriate joke. If you cut that line out, the joke could have been they were doing a "French exit", that's why it's "Sooo French". The term "French exit" means leaving a place without telling other people where you're going and not asking permission to leave. Unfortunately, the previous line, the shocked expression, I'm pretty sure it was intended be an inappropriate joke.
12:41 Okay, here it is a "French exit" joke. Weirdly enough, I feel like having that joke twice was a way to pretend like the first time they made the joke wasn't inappropriate. But even then, they ruined the "French exit" joke because she explained why she was leaving "To save the world of course". That means it wasn't actually a "French exit" and the guy shouldn't have said "Sooo French".
I read these comics when they came out and yeah the exposition about the kwamis was completely new! I believe they released between seasons 1 and 2. I just remember being so happy to get more Miraculous content but was weirded out. Now looking back yikes these didn’t age well at all and I don’t even think they’re canon
Not gunna lie, thought he was going to talk about the fan comics that the Fandom creates. Had no idea there were cannon comics, makes me wanna stuck to the ones the fandom has made.
I deleted naked in a box Marinette and Ghetto Blaster from my brain but I’m now revisiting my trauma because of you SmartyPants 😭. Also… watch Reflectkta! Please? Lmao
I had heard about marinette with a box but hadn't seen the comic so I thought it was like how Adrien once dressed up as chat noir with boxes or that she was trying to hide or something. I was not expecting that who thought this was a good idea.
Since you've talked about the comics. Could you please talk about the ladybug pv anime. You mentioned it in your felix video, and I would like to hear your opinions on this. Err, if you don't mind
I thought the first “sooo French” comment was about how French ppl lead a more “leisurely” lifestyle in comparison to Americans? Yk, the “Americans live to work, the French work to live” sort of thing? Like “wow, even in the face of mass destruction, ofc the French guys would be like “NoPe, It'S mY lUnCh BrEaK rIgHt NoW” and take a 10 minute break” lol it’s still very dumb imo but this is my guess which I think would at least make more “sense” in a very Emily in Paris sort of way lol however I honestly have no sort of explanation to the 2nd sooo French lol best guess is Astruc could’ve sworn that his first soooo French joke was soooo Funny and that a “recall” to it would work??…somehow?? Idk lol but anyway that’s my guess as to what the soo French might’ve meant
The art style change is really jarring but I do like second art style from the first comic This just tells me it was super rushed to get a product out Omg vol 3 is just…..oof 🤦♀️
As an American I can answer some of these. First, older American tourists used to tell their kids that Paris wasn't very welcoming; enough Americans had bad experiences there from the 70s-90s that it became a bit of a stereotype that Parisians were rude; but similar stereotypes exist within America about various American cities (most particularly New York City, but not exclusively). Second, Americans often romanticize France as the most romantic nation in Europe (and really all the world), so a French supermodel and the lady stalking him being fetishized comes from that. Third, American cities often are crime-ridden, poverty-ridden, disease-ridden, corrupt dystopian nightmares full of every conceivable social evil known to man; most people are terrified of Chicago, Cleveland, Baltimore, Los Angeles, New York City, DC, etc. for very real reasons and encountering those men Marinette encountered alone at night (especially as a teenage young lady) would often mean certain death in the various slums of a city like New York City; or a fate even worse. Like it or not, Marinette would often be correct in inferring that those men were stealing; and I can assure you that theft would likely be the least of an NYC gangs crimes in real life. Yes those specific ones turned out to be vigilantes but believe me you do not want to be approached by a crew of such men when you are anywhere alone in the USA, especially not in NYC. The risks are third-world-slum levels all over the US but especially in the cities. Even some of the smaller communities can be very dangerous. Most of Mississippi is basically a violent, lawless, impoverished third-world country and it isn't safe to drink the tap water in most Mississippi counties. Even places without AS MUCH VIOLENT crime are still often rife with scammers, thieves, robbers, burglars, traffickers, and illicit dealers (West Virginia is an example of this). So, as absurd as this comic is, it isn't as far from the truth as you seem to think.
As an ACTUAL American I take offense to this whole comment. Not only is it blatantly false (except for Cleveland) it's racist as fuck even more so than the comic. It stinks of a bot or a racist troll and fuck anyone who thumbs it up.
Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, although i feel like you went a little too hard on these Comics, also i don’t think the Art-style is that bad, I’ve seen worse. But anyway, I do feel like the Info about Kwamis is probably the only thing worthwhile with these Comics, at least based on this. By the way, I feel like there’s a couple of Fan-Webcomics that is probably way better than this, if you’re interested i could recommend them to you?
Judging by this emotions from you have read this books and watch every single miraculous episode and may I just say thank you for sacrificing your mind and soul for that I hope tou go to a therapist mr smartypants
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There’s something ironic with Fu stating that there are no “cruel” kwamis cause people aren’t like that, whilst Thomas is hellbent on a fictional 15 year old girl being the spawn of Satan and incapable of being good
Apparently kindess and cruelty are LEARNED behaviors... So explain to me, who was the first person to start it? Was it just self taught I guess? As if being territorial and aggressive isn't an extremely common trait in the wild... If anything its the opposite. Its INSTINCT to retaliate or be selfish, not a learned skill.
@@lasercraft32 it is learned... a child is a clean slate they do something and either are rewarded or punished based on the people around them. it's 50/50 that they do something kind or cruel but it's not with any intent just because they thought it was okay.
If a child is being kind but gets trampled on and treated like a joke it'll try yelling and screaming (maybe a bit of violence). If they get attention from it... (most importantly, what they wanted) they LEARN that being cruel is how they get what they want.
@@sabertoothno34you're right, but there's clearly different types of learned behaviors. It's all technically learned, but there's traits that have to be taught to a child and then there're traits that naturally develop in some children and need to be taken care of early. Just because no one explicitly taught the child bad traits doesn't mean they won't develop those traits. There are behaviors that are actually taught or learned through observations, and then there are behaviors that develop on their own out of instinct, they are not the same.
So French is IMO definitely a quickie joke. The stereotype is that French people are very amorous. "Language of love" "city of love" "French kissing" etc...
Thanks for explaining. That "So French" thing almost gave me an aneurism trying to understand what shit meant.
it cant be that cuz when Mari says that she is going to save the world and those guys said "so french" O_o
Never saw quickies and hookups as love... simply lust
@@Relicsplace Yeah...that's baffling...
@@miraculous-tales I agree. But in a world that adores The Bachelor and other such nonsense...
We as a fandom don’t consider these awful comics canon. Especially Thomas denying Marinette being naked in NY & accusing a black family on smuggling her. I’m glad most people don’t know about it.
The manga we got is better & respects the characters to make them grow
As a black person...what the hell?
On the other hand, Thomas banned people (Mostly black people) for drawing his attention to a still from a comic book
Marinette was WHAT in New York?!
@@Catz2003lol
Thank God they got different writers
Adrien: “Cheese isn’t a speciality in the United States!”
Wisconsin: …………
I think he meant cheese isn't a specialty in New York, but he honestly should have been more specific.
Me who has Mac and cheese half the time. You sure about that Adrien?!
LITERALLY BRUH LMAO.
Made me wish that this comic took place in Milwaukee or Madison Lmao
US Cheease is shit
Have you seen the stupidly tall cheeseburgers no one could ever eat?
Ghetto Blaster is insane
Al menos no lo llamaron Big N
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@@Sky2023-uf3ip you right you right
The publisher wouldn't allow them.
fr my jaw was on the floor when he said that💀💀💀
Actual lost media?! I actually remember seeing parts of it and a huge debate started.. not surprising
Maybe it's for the best it stays lost...
Agreed
I don’t know it was lost media. I have the first five technically it feels like 3 1/2 issues including the episode adaptations I think I have a theory it was mentally to be part of the New York special maybe the people who are working on it redo it that we have the finalized version. I will try to sell the series off for my eBay from a lucky buyer.
10:00
"Is French people being horny a stereotype in America?"
Is it not everywhere? Pepelapu is literally just THE french man stereotype in its purest form.
Yes but it's an american cartoon
@@ysarmestr9198 you mean French?
I read this comics online a few years ago. Yeah it's not really surprising because Thomas Astruc did both the writing and story credit. Plus, Marinette and Adrian (who are 14 or 15) were half naked in one of those comic books too. How that comic got approved is beyond me.
Alternative title: Almost 19 minutes of Smarty Pants having an aneurysm over poorly made comic books
I’m pretty sure that these comics aren’t canon to the show, so that explains some of the inaccuracies. Also, what in the actual fuck was the justification for having a minor walking around naked in this comic?!
When people asked Astruk that he said it would make sense in the comics... It does not make sense in the comics so I don't know what he was going on about.
@@haileyburningham1586 I'm gonna guess he was required to say that to advertise them. The comics list two freelancers as the writers so it's hard to say how much input any of the show writers had.
Even with the stupid excuse of Chloe stole the clothes which obviously not all why is Adrien naked?
There is a censored version of her in her underwear so it’s slightly better
6:56 EW WHO APPROVED OF THIS?
I actually watched a video about this a couple of days ago. Child nudity. TOTALLY not creepy or gross. TOTALLY not a breeding ground for the wankiest wankers who ever wankered...
IKR this is out of context belongs is so inappropriate.
My honest reaction:Esa mmada que we?
Like wtf if you told me this was page out of a comic from rule 34 I genuinely would have believed you
@@RedX03 not to sound like a creep but yeah, it’s genuinely more believable this way.
Marinette being naked is made worse by the fact that they had Chloe steal her clothes, and for some reason retcon her T-shirt and such that you pointed out, just so she can be naked. Normally a detail like that wouldn't matter, but in this case it does! What does this even add to the comic? What is the actual justification?
Look, this kinda stuff might have it's place somewhere, but with adults only. When you do this with minors, it just becomes weird and creepy. Also they didn't do the same thing to Adrien?? Do you smell that??
I think they tried to be funny, but when I read this I felt uncomfortable, and I was kinda worried that Marinette will get r*ped.
"There's an evil murderous kwami out there" you mean Plague? Does fit the description to me since he is the destruction kwami
Plagg! And he may be the kwami of Destruction. But he’s not evil. He’s chaotic!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian true but destruction can mean something different to other people so that's why I said it
@@Justcallmeaqua420 Fair enough.
About Marinette running nude across New York, I think it's the comic doing the classic, but understandably awkward cartoon trope where a character runs around naked in public and trying not to get seen by someone. The best example I could provide is _The Fairly OddParents_ episode, "Crime Wave", where Timmy runs around in Dimmsdale naked after wishing to be at the local comic book store. It also included a subplot where the Crimson Chin must battle against H2Olga while also babysitting. So, that's all I could explain, but it still doesn't stop this trope from being super awkward in the comics (I'm trying to avoid using the overused word), especially since _Miraculous Ladybug_ uses semi-detailed, semi-realistic designs for their characters.
I agree with this sentiment....up until the "Most Played" part of the video, thats just pushes this over the edge from the "silly funny haha naked person" to something that belongs in the shadow realm of the internet
When you brought up naked marinette it was like unlocking a memory I didn’t realize existed. I remember stumbling across a few of those pages on Pinterest years ago. I thought it was a fan comic that was gonna go somewhere else, if ya know what I mean. I never bothered to look for the full thing.
The fact that they never went over the lore of the kwamis outside of this comic is so aggravating.
I’m pretty sure that the “SoOo FrEnCh” joke is about how doing something like going out to eat in France it’s basically more polite for eating to take more time, to the point where I know at least some schools there give an hour for lunch time. This is why the not Justice League is like “they’re SoOo FrEnCh” when Ladybug & Cat Noir ask for 10 minutes for themselves.
Even with the supposed context, it still doesn’t really work as a joke IMO.
Someone in another comment said it might've been an innuendo
"Soo french" Keeps getiing on my nerves wtf. I DONT GET IT- WHats with the racism??
uh well you see French in most places in the world id known as the "language of love" so i think with that you can get the joke. also that's not the way to use racism as there are only 4 races and French def ant one of them.
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>as there are only 4 races and French def ant one of them
bro what
@@hertzwave8001 tbh this is what happens when you don't sleep for 5 Days I am sorry you had to read that mess.
Miraculous in general has done some real questionable things in their show too. I read the comic years ago. I almost stop supporting the series after that. The weird racism, Stereotypes, and inappropriate behaviors made me gag. How did a character like ghetto blaster even make through the first draft. A team of people had to approve this and they thought this was okay? Especially that outfit they gave Marinette. I know this show/comics isn't known for their fashion. which is a rant for another day with Marinette being a fashion student. Like come on! there is so much good black street fashion out there. Y2K fashion and other street fashion was literally popular when the comics came out. You gave us that! That comic went to the trash immediately.
Which fool decided that Public enemy and Ghetto blaster was the best names??
The funniest thing is that many black people pointed out to Thomas and he banned them because they were bad haters
Yes, I come from Europe myself and I have seen so much racist garbage that it's a drama, and when you talk about it, "You're too leftist" or, eh... Drama with all this
why does that guy exist the way he does, sounds like something chris-chan would say
While I understand the message they were trying to convey with that scene of Marinette and the black guys, the comic shoots itself in the foot by having Marinette be naked and giving the black guys the most stereotypical names and designs they could've come up with.
I petition the serial killer kwami to be a meerkat, mainly beause real life meerkats have the highest murder rate for their own species next to humans.
Fun fact: Ghetto Blaster was the nickname my college girlfriend gave me whenever we got together on a Saturday night.
This was my attempt at a Cinemasins joke.
*Ding*
I knew I heard that dumb ex girlfriend joke somewhere
"Spoilers, Duh."
I fucking love CinemaSins. His vids are entertaining.
Boo! CinemaSins is so surface-level.
Ghetto Blaster? Thank God there was a H after G. Cuz then it would become creppy
lmao surprised you didn't see these before now! I remember when that last one you talked about came out and Astruc was trying to defend the blatant and weird racism in it. Actually crazy stuff
I don’t know but something about making sexual innuendos about 14 yr olds and having them prance around a dirty city naked feels very wrong.
So, the first "Sooooo French" makes sense because there is a stereotype here in the US that French people are hyper-romantic and sexual. I don't know what the implication of the second "She's Sooooooo French" is supposed to be.
With the controversial scene, why was Marinette naked? She was never that way for all her other transformations. The entire scenario feels forced. For all you fellow 'Muricans talking about how Marinette would have been right in her assumption, you're soft, and sheltered, leave your suburbs or small town and go downtown for once. Aside from that, yeah, imagine not assuming that they were movers.
It's possible they had good intentions when they wrote that. Astruc has said that the point was that Marinette was stereotyping them. At the same time, there is such little care put into the idea, from the forced scenario to the weird street names it shows that at best, it was put in there so the writers could be on their moral high horse, and at worse, it's what Mr. Pants said, someone's thinly veiled script for BLACKED. I need to go back to those street names, though. I get why they named a dude Public Enemy, "Oh yeah, famous protest artists Public Enemy," Sure, though I don't know why that would be someone's nickname. Ghettoblaster? F6cking Ghettoblaster? How much do you guys want to bet that the writers for this comic don't even know what Ghettoblasting is?
It would've been a somewhat funny moment if Marinette was like "Sorry for thinking you guys are criminals" and then the family responded with "It's okay, when we saw you in that box, we thought you were a crackhead." Alas, they probably can't say "crackhead" in a children's comic and I'm not sure if French has an equivalent or if that type of humor would land.
Mari says that she is going to save the world and those guys says "so french" so i dont think thats the implication or maybe its the implication that they intended in the first one but i'm still confused about the second one
They're showing a naked teenage girl walking around NYC in a cardboard box. But "crackhead" is where you think they would draw the line?
that bit with Marinette meeting those guys really reminded me of the scene from Godzilla final wars and how they portrait New York, minus the naked 14 year old girl, seriously WTF? Zag approved that
2:50 the school system doesn’t do much against bullying
the french school system?
@@hertzwave8001 no every school system, and that’s coming from someone who experienced it for a long time
1:15 I recall there being animated shorts in this style... It looks so much worse in motion.
Omg I used to watch them to
I remember being pretty excited, because all the art creators rpesented looked really nice and then it came out looking so ugly...
*sigh* where can I find them
I can at least, although spitefully, write down the ghetto blaster as The Writers Being Ignorant (American Edition). But Mari being naked is where the police needs to be called, bcs what the absolute fuck were they thinking?!
These comics (alongside some elements in the show and his tweets) are a great example to point to when talking about Astruc’s HORRIBLE relationship with race. I’ve gotten shit from so many fans who claim there’s no issue with it which is just surreal to me. Even though this comic is kind of lost media it’s not like his tweets or the weird stuff in the show regarding East Asians are.
Miraculous Ladybug has a bunch of extremely racist elements and I feel it’s fucking overdue for an analysis of it that doesn’t try to brush it off. Just because it’s “well-meaning” doesn’t mean it’s not awfully executed .
The “evil can be innate, just look at serial killers” this is uncomfortable since many things go into if someone chooses to be cruel. Ignorance, anger, social situation, mental health, family and background..
I’m certain that being a cruel murderer is a choice and there are ways to help and raise those who have mental health issues so they don’t make that choice. Meanwhile there are people who are not mentally unwell who chose to hurt people because they have decided they don’t care about others- usually because they have tons of power or because they want to have that power over others
Yeah, the fact that he said that rubbed me the wrong way.
These comics are SoooOOOooo FrEnCh
I got one for free comic day in my town back in 2017 (I remember because it was my prom day 😅)
I never saw anything about the comics again and completely forgot of their existence
"Is french people being horny a common American stereotype?"
YES! I am french and I can confirm that for some reason Americans think Europeans, and us French in particular, are indeed horny. I blame it on both Paris being stereotyped as the "City of Love and Romance" and on the genuine fact that our standards regarding sexual content and censors aren't as strict as for Americans (Code Lyoko, one of my favourite shows, is apparentely considered very fanservicy in America, when in our own country it's considered about average).
3:55 Pardon my French, no pun intended. But WTF was that?! 😂 Did you just have a seizure?
1:33 the worst thing of saying the art is bad is that i used to follow the artist on Instagram bc i admired her, I was on high school and she was so excited when she got a job working for miraculous 😭😭😭😭 like man, léase her artstyle alone, its just an artstyle its Not that bad, her former work is so much better tbh, maybe se was fishes or something
I have no word for these comics
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
From the first comic, I can tell the artist is a My Little Pony fan. Not that it's a bad thing but just saying I could tell that the artist must have been drawing pony art since the face shapes kind of match up with how Fanart was styled. I'm not 100% sure since it's been years.
I’m sad to say that I actually have these comics. I got them when I was like 12 and I remember being excited about them but I was too young to realize how bad they actually were.💀
16:58 I think the slug monster ate the mystery machine from Scooby doo
I noticed that too lol.
Was waiting for someone to point that out! XD
Originally Miraculous was supposed to be a comic,it seems better it didn't happen.
At 6:32 why is the photographer rizzing up Adrian?😂😂😂😂
I can't the" SO FRENCH " Thing when you said it😂
Oh I remember this! You've unlocked so many repressed memories about this comic lol.
The river part makes me think of our president saying he will swim in the Seine to prove it isn’t THAT dirty 😂😂
13:32 DUDE JUST GO VISIT WISCONSIN, TIS THE LAND OF CHEESE.
The name “ghetto blaster” is sending me 💀💀💀
Thank God this was not a Getto Blaster, and that he was not a German. Then this comic would be banned and forbitten in every country.
Something amuses me about the fact that Adrien has darker skin in the comics, while in the series he doesn't have much darker skin
And Marinette looks more Asian than she does in the show, which is also funny
Yes, it's funny because it shows that the unofficial comic (I mean, official, because it's licensed, but not canon, because, well, we've all seen the series) made more effort to make Marinette at least look Asian
If they were relying on ladybugto repairall the damage why didn't they assume Cat Noir could beat trash kraken with a cat-aclysm
also I hate that when it was revealed that Adrian's truncks survived his transformation my brain went "Yeah, a female who lost her clothes, people will help her and dress her. A dude loses his clothes, He gets arrested." the double standard is backed into the brain. Would have been better to NOT do the swim plot and clothing malfunction AT ALL. but they needed to pad the run time I guess
Ain't no way they made a black superhero who calls himself "Public Enemy"
can't believe the worst hot take I've heard from Smarty Pants is that American cheese is good. I am american, and I can confirm that all cheese labeled american is awful. American cheese isn't even cheese! it's cheese product! Rethink your life Smarty Pants, and get a better opinion on cheese please!
Tbf he lives in Australia which has really bad cheese so America’s might be better in comparison lol
(I know this because I’m also Australian)
Calm down, no need to bitch about an opinion.
American Cheese is weird, because on its own its kinda gross, BUT when _melted_ it tastes way better. English Muffin with ham and melted American cheese is really good imo.
Yeah I’m American and I cannot stand American cheese. It’s hard to swallow because of how gross it is
I don't find these comics all that bad, because I've seen fanfictions with similar storylines and nonsensical lines. Regardless of the age and gender of the writers, it's just them using shock value comedy of the characters ending up either naked or in awkward situations. I do however think that situations like these in the comics should be done with adult characters, not teenagers who are barely 14.
I also like to think of "SO French!" being a play on words to the Mean Girls movie quote, "That's so fetch!". Yeah, it's doofy, but it works and keeps things kid-friendly
"The story is that Marinette is a social failure"
...
"What else is new?"
CRYING.
9:46 where i live, an steriotype of french people is being too romantic so i think the joke is them running away to kisses
9:57 The " We need a moment of privacy. Ten minutes tops!" does make it sound like an inappropriate joke. If you cut that line out, the joke could have been they were doing a "French exit", that's why it's "Sooo French". The term "French exit" means leaving a place without telling other people where you're going and not asking permission to leave.
Unfortunately, the previous line, the shocked expression, I'm pretty sure it was intended be an inappropriate joke.
12:41 Okay, here it is a "French exit" joke. Weirdly enough, I feel like having that joke twice was a way to pretend like the first time they made the joke wasn't inappropriate. But even then, they ruined the "French exit" joke because she explained why she was leaving "To save the world of course". That means it wasn't actually a "French exit" and the guy shouldn't have said "Sooo French".
I read these comics when they came out and yeah the exposition about the kwamis was completely new! I believe they released between seasons 1 and 2. I just remember being so happy to get more Miraculous content but was weirded out. Now looking back yikes these didn’t age well at all and I don’t even think they’re canon
Honestly, “They’re so French” is accurate 😭
Not gunna lie, thought he was going to talk about the fan comics that the Fandom creates. Had no idea there were cannon comics, makes me wanna stuck to the ones the fandom has made.
1:09 I hated this episode it was so cringe lol
Same
Keep up the good work smartypants! Been watching you for a while now and you’ve been killing it, good stuff mate!
The head looks like..... Tomatoes 😵💫
They fixed the naked error in a later printed edition with of the issue
Thank god I had no idea about these comics. Although it was funny seeing you kinda cry over not understanding the Sooo French joke. I didn't too.
I deleted naked in a box Marinette and Ghetto Blaster from my brain but I’m now revisiting my trauma because of you SmartyPants 😭.
Also… watch Reflectkta! Please? Lmao
When I was six I found one and closed it when they were at the beach. (At 6 I thought men being shirtless was appalling!!!) so glad I didn’t finish it
I had heard about marinette with a box but hadn't seen the comic so I thought it was like how Adrien once dressed up as chat noir with boxes or that she was trying to hide or something. I was not expecting that who thought this was a good idea.
Since you've talked about the comics. Could you please talk about the ladybug pv anime. You mentioned it in your felix video, and I would like to hear your opinions on this. Err, if you don't mind
I feel the United heroes are an interesting idea just with weird execution
I thought the first “sooo French” comment was about how French ppl lead a more “leisurely” lifestyle in comparison to Americans? Yk, the “Americans live to work, the French work to live” sort of thing? Like “wow, even in the face of mass destruction, ofc the French guys would be like “NoPe, It'S mY lUnCh BrEaK rIgHt NoW” and take a 10 minute break” lol it’s still very dumb imo but this is my guess which I think would at least make more “sense” in a very Emily in Paris sort of way lol however I honestly have no sort of explanation to the 2nd sooo French lol best guess is Astruc could’ve sworn that his first soooo French joke was soooo Funny and that a “recall” to it would work??…somehow?? Idk lol but anyway that’s my guess as to what the soo French might’ve meant
Im surprised. i knew about the Lost pv casino game, but not the comics. I never thought they were lost media
It's a shame. You'd hope that the comics would be better than the show (Jeremy Zag's vision, for example).
Jeremy approved this 💀
@@dangerbuffrocky I thought this was another grubby Astruc fantasy, but ZAG approved this?!
@@MeemahSN yep
The art style change is really jarring but I do like second art style from the first comic
This just tells me it was super rushed to get a product out
Omg vol 3 is just…..oof 🤦♀️
12:15 12:18 Low key hilarious, because you are right on point.
I love swimming in that river. It is illegal but not enforced.
Stop I was literally talking about these comics with my boyfriend the other day 💀
What does the that so French line even mean? I'm an American and I don't get it.
Same like whattt
As an American I can answer some of these. First, older American tourists used to tell their kids that Paris wasn't very welcoming; enough Americans had bad experiences there from the 70s-90s that it became a bit of a stereotype that Parisians were rude; but similar stereotypes exist within America about various American cities (most particularly New York City, but not exclusively). Second, Americans often romanticize France as the most romantic nation in Europe (and really all the world), so a French supermodel and the lady stalking him being fetishized comes from that. Third, American cities often are crime-ridden, poverty-ridden, disease-ridden, corrupt dystopian nightmares full of every conceivable social evil known to man; most people are terrified of Chicago, Cleveland, Baltimore, Los Angeles, New York City, DC, etc. for very real reasons and encountering those men Marinette encountered alone at night (especially as a teenage young lady) would often mean certain death in the various slums of a city like New York City; or a fate even worse. Like it or not, Marinette would often be correct in inferring that those men were stealing; and I can assure you that theft would likely be the least of an NYC gangs crimes in real life. Yes those specific ones turned out to be vigilantes but believe me you do not want to be approached by a crew of such men when you are anywhere alone in the USA, especially not in NYC. The risks are third-world-slum levels all over the US but especially in the cities. Even some of the smaller communities can be very dangerous. Most of Mississippi is basically a violent, lawless, impoverished third-world country and it isn't safe to drink the tap water in most Mississippi counties. Even places without AS MUCH VIOLENT crime are still often rife with scammers, thieves, robbers, burglars, traffickers, and illicit dealers (West Virginia is an example of this). So, as absurd as this comic is, it isn't as far from the truth as you seem to think.
As an ACTUAL American I take offense to this whole comment. Not only is it blatantly false (except for Cleveland) it's racist as fuck even more so than the comic. It stinks of a bot or a racist troll and fuck anyone who thumbs it up.
I checked the account and it has AI generated content even the profile picture is AI generated.
Yeah best to play your cards close to your chest in the USA
Ok fair enough I did swear. However the above comment is still racist.
@nathanialwoods8281 Yeah that account is definitely a bot with the amount of racist nonsense they're spewing lol.
Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, although i feel like you went a little too hard on these Comics, also i don’t think the Art-style is that bad, I’ve seen worse.
But anyway, I do feel like the Info about Kwamis is probably the only thing worthwhile with these Comics, at least based on this.
By the way, I feel like there’s a couple of Fan-Webcomics that is probably way better than this, if you’re interested i could recommend them to you?
wait did Adrien just beat a villain without transforming??
Im starting to think hes doing everything to not watch reflecta episode
Yeah this isn't canon. Uncanny Valley is white here, which is not at all accurate to the show.
How the heck do the illustrations feel more limited than the actual animation?! 😂
"Public Enemy" is that a dmc reference?
10:00 it might be because French people are considered romantic or at least the acsent is I don’t get it myself
The joke with them being so French is kissing.
I uh… own this comic 😂
If i recall correctly having read a collection of the comics in question they defeat the monster and return home
Can I be brutally honest? Why did OP canon Adrien have tiny swim shorts? Why was like GQ?
i was at first so confused as to who the purple lady was beside majestia. turns out that was the original design of uncanny valley.. yikes 😬
These comics are lost media my Bois!
I think one of the early artists who worked on Miraculous drew nsfw art of Marinette so saddly the part where she's naked is not that surprising...
If this is your reaction to official comics. Please do a review on the scarlet lady au comics please!
I have the 5th volume of the comic if you ever need it.
Judging by this emotions from you have read this books and watch every single miraculous episode and may I just say thank you for sacrificing your mind and soul for that I hope tou go to a therapist mr smartypants
Honestly the art in the comic (for the most part) is way better than the 3D animation in the show I would’ve much preferred this for the animation
I was WAITING for this video
Can you do a video on how would you fix miraculous