Just wanna say that Jeff has been playing a part in bonding them together over the years, since Jeff is good friends with both of them, and now he is gone... RIP
@@carstenmoss5025 You need to read up on rock history. Clapton's work on the Bluesbreakers album set a new standard, and was really groundbreaking at that time. He was the one responsible for making the Les Paul/Marshall combination one that became standard in rock. So many others wanted that edgy sound that Clapton had achieved on the Bluesbreakers album. In Cream, he was leading the way, being ahead of Page and Beck in that regard, with a far more disciplined approach to guitar playing. Of course, Hendrix came along and blew everyone away, but it was a wakeup call. They were all friends, with respect for each other. In the early 70's, Clapton's interest in "old" Fenders started the lust for vintage Fender Stratocasters. His work in the '70's wasn't as groundbreaking as the Cream days, but he had a string of great hits, and helped to bring Bob Marley and JJ Cale into the spotlight. Sure, there are other blues guitarists, but he was a part of that revival that began in England in the mid 1960's. He was influenced by the 3 Kings, for sure, but this style of music was always about influences, and carrying on traditions. The original Black blues musicians could almost be forgotten if it wasn't for early recordings, and an anthropological interest in the original sources of this music. Clapton's style has an orthodoxy about it that has since influenced countless guitarists. You need to understand the nature of this process, rather than just being blown away by the next big thing.
Well... In this, I feel Clapton was misinformed. I can list 6 ROCK players who broke the walls down, incl. Hendrix, Holdsworth, ZAPPA... and The list goes on. Page is respected musically, I acknowledge his talent but the guy was capital C Creepy. Bad juju
@@carstenmoss5025 I used to wonder the same until I watched some of the early Cream and Blind Faith videos. Clapton’s playing is understated and not flashy since it’s blues based like his early playing. Blind Faith in Hyde Park, London, 1969 >> ruclips.net/video/PJJnA6zEcGk/видео.html
@@John_13_35 Please list the other 3. You list Zappa and Holdsworth, whose music doesn't have the wide appeal that Jeff Beck's has. Being technically proficient and experimental is fine, but one's audience will always be smaller. Beck was a guitar legend in his lifetime, and lived up to it with music that is essentially melodic and emotional in content. It's a topic that one could argue pointlessly about, because it's subjective in nature, but these elements of music are present in much great classical music as well. It's an element that helps to define greatness, as apposed to being merely interesting and technically clever.
Page will always be the Master Orchestral Songwriter of rock guitar. Led Zeppelin’s catalog is a testament to this. He was always a visionary artist. Page was, is and will always be on another level compared to the rest.
@@TheFourWindsBar-777 I tend to agree with that way also. Blind Faith was a Great adventure, but I think ultimately could have been Brilliant n it falls short of that
Oh, and i forgot to include the Beatles White album as some great work by Clapton. But his solo career was no where near as impressive as Page and the Zeppelin catalogue .
You need to be more objective. Page's songwriting, arranging and individual style was a major contribution to Led Zeppelin, of course. But, they did stagnate a bit after the 5th album, as rock music evolved in different directions. By the time they ended, they had become mega-big dinosaurs of rock. Cream did it all before Led Zeppelin, and their live improvisations took rock into uncharted areas. It was the chemistry between them, with Baker and Bruce unmatched. Clapton's blues/rock style was the perfect foil, otherwise, their music making may have just become too esoteric, without the popularity they achieved. After Cream, Clapton chose different paths, and has been hugely successful. He just happens to be one of the most influential guitarists ever, from the Mayall days onward, which is not a bad achievement. Jeff Beck starred with The Yardbirds, had a few years finding his way without having a huge impact, and then came out with Blow By Blow and Wired, and just kept getting better and better, breaking new ground in terms of guitar technique, and having the most melodic musical style of any electric guitarists that I know of. He could take a simple melody and orchestrate it with the most astounding control of tone and expression. There are guitarists who can play far more notes per minute, but so what.
I went to the 83 LA show to see them and support Lane, Clapton came out first, he was great, Page came out 2nd, he was great. Then Beck came out 3rd, and wiped the floor with them back and forth over and over again, no contest. I had never seen Beck live before. Then they all played Train Kept a Rollin- just phenomenal- I will never forget, it was one of the bests things I''ve ever seen I've told this story many times.
I have these ARMS Beck shows saved. Watching them is like a religious experience. Using a basic '57 Reissue Stratocaster, he takes guitar playing to another level entirely. What a unique and inspired musician he was!!! I can't find words that really describe his musicianship.
Come to that, where does Bill Wyman fit into this? These American 'experts' create channels which are designed to attract views, thereby generating income, and the videos are full of utter rubbish in most cases and have 'sensational' titles to attract the viewer, but are, as has been said below, nonsense. They can't even get their facts right! Clapton did not get the nickname of 'Slowhand' with the Yardbirds - it was with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers.
Simple, Eric believes Jimmy put out a record that he played on and didn’t share copyright in the mid sixties but Jimmy didn’t have any control over the release,it’s a sleazy business and musicians huge ego’s get in the way.
Pretty good summation. I've followed both of these artists for several decades and I don't think they were ever very close as the video seems to hint at.
That seems to be a story I've heard before. I kinda believe it, because it's a real sticking point. Since they didn't do it together, Clapton will always be suspicious. Clapton feels a certain way about it. Whether Page had control or not, is out of our hands. But Eric didn't like Oldham obviously, he did it for commercial gain. That was a good explanation. Thank you.
@@alanmiller2250 Oldham had also overdubbed some old Stones tracks to make it more 'commercial' without Pages knowledge (according to Page). Clapton did not recieve any royalties nor was he aware of any release. Clapton believes that Page was somehow involved in this betrayal (rightly or not) and said he was Betrayed by Page. Given Page's history with borrowing other's peoples music without consent makes this seem plausible. IMO.
@@mikeshaw4951 anything’s possible I can’t say one way or the other unless you trust the internet for accuracy but that’s what I remember reading of that situation. Jimmy also had the nickname of Led Wallet so take that for what it’s worth!
I love both guitarists although Zeppelin has been my favorite band since I was 10 years old I'm 53 now. And although I love Clapton and he's definitely one of the best blues play in guitarist I've ever heard I'd have to pick Page and Zeppelins work over him because of how versatile page was in all their songs they did so many different styles of Blues and folk mixed with heavy Rock with a lot broader span of Blues than anybody has done to date that's my humble opinion but I love Clapton he's one of my all-time favorites along with Stevie Ray Vaughan Jeff Beck and a few others
One big factor in the differences between Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, would be that one sings while playing guitar, and the other just plays guitar - especially true while performing live. I believe that both musicians, in their own rights, are two of the best in what and how they play. Remember, music is mostly in the ears, minds and emotions of the beholders. "Keep on Rockin' in The Free World..."
The reason he was called slow hand was because when when Clapton would break a guitar string during a concert and replace it on stage, the English audience would wait by doing a "slow handclap". It was a play on his name slow hand CLAPton.
@@guyfantastico8268 it was when Clapton was just starting out with the Yardbirds in October of 63 when the “clap” started, and he used very light strings for his extra extreme use of bending and much of his bending was 1 and a half steps. As he was just starting out with a band with a record company, so no he didn’t have extra money for guitars outside of his 63 Red Telecaster back then.
Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton being luminaries in the guitar world and who have built and maintained stellar reputations. Juxtaposed against one of Rock Music's greatest faux pas in Roger Waters who continuously shoots himself in the foot, squandering any positivity he may of once had The photo, I'm sure, was for contrast. Confidence versus Arrogance.
They should do a biopic about Eric, Jeff Beck's and Jimmy's experiences in the Yardbirds, ending with the sad electrocution death of Keith Relf and their stellar solo careers.
@@dananthony6258 I hate that saying that came along “the goat”. I’ve been studying music for much longer than that, and if you say that, I really don’t think you’ve been studying music very well. Theory? Just playing guitar? Teaching guitar? I’ve done it all n more and i know JP is far from what young people now use as the word “the goat”. You’ve been studying guitar for 30 years, but you haven’t studied.Jeff Beck John McLaughlin- Allan Holdsworth Sonny Landreth, How about a little bit more mainstream? And almost all Blues based, Like Sonny- SRV, Rory Gallagher, Luther Allison??? Etc There the Horses.
@ I’m actually studying Barry Harris 6 diminished scale and all his of the minor , major cord scales and inversions and the dominant and dormant b5 . Jimmy page was still the best guitarist that does it for me all these years later. I know all the fancy cat you’ve referred to. Jimmy was a master songwriter and has inspired more than most.
@@dananthony6258 so you’ve been studying for 30 years, but you need the Internet? I know who Barry Harris is. He’s a jazz piano legend. But just what I thought I put in Barry Harris name on Google (to see what I thought you were doing) and the first thing that comes up on his names is countless instruction videos of exactly the words you used. “Barry Harris teaching the 6th diminished scale”. I was more impressed when as a 50 something year old you called Jimmy Page the goat,just sounded off. . As Us middle aged Or as you would prob. refer to as “old people” we 50+ dinosaurs don’t talk that way.and as a 30+ year-old veterans such as yourself I wouldn’t think you need the Internet to learn music. Cmon your a teenager who loves Led Zeppelin just learning to play, there is nothing wrong with that.
@ I think you Sergio have issues man. You help or something. I’m a 48 year old man male and I’ve been playing since I was 12. I was that teenager that loved Jimmy page and still do. You think you’re some kind of genius because you listen to John McLaughlin. I’m not into Indian music sorry. I happen to be studying jazz theory and to say using the internet is somehow not a viable source is ridiculous. I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t even know the difference between a major 7th or a dominant 7 never mind what’s is a tritone minor or a tritone substitution if it fell out of a tree and hit you in the head, you probably can’t even read music.
Clapton peaked with Cream ..after that he just went commercial for the rest of his career ,However,Page went on to take rock music to a new level with Zeppelin .. a band that became the bench mark for every rock band since ..only Hendrix tops Page as the best rock guitarist ever !!🔥🎸🔥🎸
So Page is a better guitarist than John McLaughlin- Allan Holdsworth- Sonny Landreth- SRV, Rory Gallagher, Luther Allison, Otis Rush, EC himself, Buddy Guy I can go on for about 10 more hours.
@@Hundert1 no all are is not personal opinion my eight-year-old nephew is not a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix as he just started playing guitar six months ago. You have no idea of what you’re talking about in anything that has to do with music. And from what we talked about before, you are definitely Far from being mature mature. I’m starting to think you’re just a bigot.
Clapton did NOT get the name 'slow hand' from his guitar playing. He was given that name by one of the Yardbirds (believed to be Chris Dreya) because he regularly broke his strings and would take ages over changing and re-tuning. Just sayin'
I find them all great musicians. When it is between Page and Clapton, I prefer Page more. He can do everything Eric can, but then more creative and original. Especially as a composer/arranger. And Jeff Beck takes it even further... But again, I appreciate all of them.
Clapton, Page and Beck are all terrific in different ways. Clapton is by far the best singer and has been a prolific song writer. Page is a great acoustic player, band leader and producer. Beck is very innovative and did great work in jazz fusion.
lol. Clapton has been the biggest tease since Cream. His solos are tame and usually in an outtro that fades way too quickly. I’ve seen him live many times and he is a fantastic guitar player but not close to Page. Page gave everything he had. He was the music he didn’t just play it he lived it.
Sorry but I'm calling Bulshavic on this RUclips segment. First of all Jimmy & Eric were never "Close" friends. Jimmy grew up with Jeff Beck in the same neighborhood NOT Clapton. Yes Jimmy & Eric had done some jamming together with recordings of the sessions. But Musicians like themselves did a lot of those back in the day so it wasn't anything special of those recordings other than the fact that you had 2 Great guitar players. Secondly Jimmy had nothing to do with the Release of those Recordings so you have that as well. Bottom Line, Jimmy & Eric were NEVER close friends so this is much ado about nothing!
I totally agree. Eric was best friends with George Harrison and stole his wife with it too. They stayed friends sort of. Jeff was just a better natural talent of blues than Eric who had to work at it. Page was more acoustic sinth. With ballads. All great in their own ways. Don't know where Waters came from tbh
@@davegilmore7420 Clapton drank and abused heroine all through the 70’s and a tad racist,Yeah Jimmy had his demons as well but he never complained about black people taking over Great Britain!
@@davegilmore7420 the more Band members the more drama you get and if you make it then it only gets harder to keep it together drugs and booze make it worse.
I don't understand why he blames Jimmy for the release of the session tapes. From this podcast it doesn't sound like Jimmy made them commercial, so I don't understand why he would place the blame on Jimmy.
@@judithhorvath887 the video is fake. But Those tapes JP produced, & EC thought it was just him and his friend just jamming, not to be played for the public. It was never supposed to be about money something Eric didn’t learn about Page yet is everything about Jimmy is money. And he was known around London young Jimmy was a whiz or a engineer but he ripped many off when producing (as he became a very good engineer before he became a Yardbird then LZ. It was said he ripped off so many people as a engineer he couldn’t work As 1 anymore except for a band that he made himself hence Led Zeppelin. And being that JP produced that session with Clapton, JP had power to release those tapes, and it wasn’t as much as releasing those tapes it was about Eric never received a dime from them, so of course, he believed JP took Eric’s share. And Page said to Eric he never received a dime either but Slowhand never believed him, and it makes sense being he was the producer of those tapes, that page would take Eric’s share, being he was known to do things like that. And that’s where they stopped talking for a little while, and we’re never as close as they were pre-Zepplin again. Even though Clapton did forgive him, partly. So it had to do with Jimmy stealing from Eric more than it had to do with any release. 1 reason why you never saw Page at a Eric Clapton crossroads concert as one of the 15 or so guitarists, Eric invites every three years. Besides many other reasons.As Buddy Guy nor Gary Glark Jr. or any successful blues guitarist of any color would even play a date with him.
Clapton is certainly a fine guitarist, but was over-rated and the most limited in styles, between himself, J.P. and J.B. Jimmy and Jeff were both more innovative, energetic and technically proficient, in MY humble opinion.
@@toddnilsson5664He said Beck and Page were more innovative, energetic and technically proficient...and said nothing about tone, so your comment is a non-starter. It doesn't apply so get a clue and pay attention Homer.
They are all great. Ultimately all these guys got palpitations when they saw Hendrix the first time…not saying he was objectively better technician or composer or producer…but he changed all of them.
I can say this, I once went to a concert in New York back in the 80s where this was a special concert that had Page, Clapton and Beck performing, Jimmy looked a bit drunk and he padded Eric on the back, pretty hard and I remember clearly seeing the look on Erics face and I could easily see he did not like Page one bit that night
@@Stratman1512 Nope, I seen with my own eyes in New York it was Clapton, Page and Beck, I am NOT making this up, this was back in the 80s and I am telling you I clearly remember when Page padded Clapton on the back,,,,,,,,,and my other name is Deanman ,,,,,,,,,,,sold my Explorer
I play guitar myself and jimmy page wrote and produced all of led Zeppelins music....he was into dark magic and I don't know if he sold his soul to Satan but zoso a word on a album cover is actually a name of a powerful entity or demon... Clapton was a great musician also...but Page was in a world of his own ....I've learned a few songs from Zeppelin and I will say this..... The tuning on some of the songs is outrageous....drop D is one of them and many musicians use that tuning because using power chords is really heavy but they only tune down the E string...But when you tune completely down like he did in many of his songs is beautiful what he wrote....
I like both of them but Page was my influence to pick up the guitar and I believe he was far more innovative than Clapton especially after learning to play both of their music
Whiel Calpton is talented, and has done some great stuff, I often get bored with him doing a lot of nothing all that really special. Seems to me his biggest contribution, was the Crossroads festival, and preserving the music of some legends before they were gone. Maybe Page was more commercialy inclined, whatever. Beck is another anomaly again, and Page and Clapton really can't be put together in conversation, without him as well. Is one really any better than the other, hard to say, they are all different from each other.
@@pbc18 I think it has a lot to do with his attitude,according to Ronnie James Dio he used to spit and yell at fans after shows and genuinely not a nice person,as a player he was fantastic.
Thanks for calling this out. I’m getting tired of these AI infused posts that have little substance and invariably repeat the same featureless phrases over and over. They take a nothingburger and serve it with no bun.
I had this recording for a long time. It wasn't commercial at all. It was exactly what Eric said it was. It was a jam session. I'm not sure how the recording came about until now. One thing is for sure these guys were extremely geld. It's ashame because I think the trust was broken. Knowing much of Jimmy's work ethic, I can't see how Jimmy would let an experimental project be released. Who knows, though?
@@johnnilsson1311 Jimmy had his hands full at that time he was playing in a band while still doing session work so I could see how something like that could happen it’s unfortunate but only they know the real story but I’d give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt
Most music fans could not give a stuff about their relationships as they are different style guitarists and have their own set of fans! It is the Music that matters not the possible rift or not between them!
Clapton and Page may have had the spotlight at one time but, as a result being in the same band as well and replacing Eric Clapton was Jeff Beck and Jeff Beck had surpassed Jimmy Page's and Eric Clapton's ability to play guitar more vastly. Jeff Beck's absence in the music world will be sadly missed... He is the unsung Hero here... I understand it is about the relationship between Page and Clapton but, Jeff Beck was part of that era too. Hence now please, Is this about friendship or about music ability here? Sincerely.
CLLAPTON.. GIVEN FENTASTIC RELEATIONSHIP IN VIEW OF 'BEAUTY OF HIS ART JOURNY EVERYDAY. HE PRESENT 'MMAGIC OF HIS SUPEERIOR MUSIC SONG ART VERY AMEZING 'PRESENTATION LIKE ROCK MUSIC IN CLASICAL
I am so happy that Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page are still friends. I have a pretty extensive knowledge of Rock and roll history so I was surprised to hear about these tapes or a collaboration between Clapton & Page that was recorded. Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page are two of my favorite guitar players in rock and the blues. I have been heavily influenced from both guitarist's playing and music. I love both these iconic guitar players and would love to see them perform togather again. It's ok to have disagreements and still be friends. I can only hope that they come togather and maybe make a blues/rock album togather of original music and perform togather! This would truly be exceptional and whatever disagreements may be let go. I am glad to hear that they are still friends and that my two favorite guitar players are still performing. It would be incredible if they performed togather again and I believe that both guitar players could make a album togather promoting there love for the blues that I believe needs a good revival. Not since Stevie Ray Vaugh has the blues music been on the commercial charts or radio air play although you can bet that if Clapton & Page collaborated togather and performed blues rock music togather, It would be a project that with a few iconic musicians like maybe Rod Stewart or Paul Rogers singing lead vocal with great guitar harmonies could bring back the love for the blues. I would pay to buy that album and pay to see there band on tour! Maybe Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page will see my comment here and possibly make a album togather to promote the blues. Xoxo, David Allen Drotar ##ddrotar #RockHall2024 #rockandrollhalloffame 🙂✌🏻❤️🎼🎸🎤🔊🎶🎵🤘👍
After midnight was a cool song and he has some good ideas however, he doesn't compare to Jimmy Page....and the Dynamics of led Zeppelin... When you see the movie song remains the same.....you see the real superstars that they were...... Jimmy Page had it all the perfect rock guitarist...and his acoustic pieces were excellent..the sign of a genius... and an advantage that 6:05 helped Jimmy Page was bonzo, plant and jp Jones....with that kind of backing, Jimmy was able to take it all the way to the top of the world,!!!!
Saw 3 nights of ARMS shows back in early eighties. Jeff was the man all three. Jimmy was still riding high on his earlier sucess was stale and extremely sloppy. I had seen LZ a few times and saw the Outrider tour so i had some exposure to his live shows . My seats were close to the stage and could see their faces and expressions . Seeing the look on Erics face in reaction to what Jimmy was playing was very telling. It was very awkward . You could almost see a look of embarrassment for Jimmy and disbelief from Eric. When Jimmy bends often times he doesnt quite reach the notes hes shooting for and they sound flat and out of tune . His solo on Stairway to Heaven was terrible. He was sweating so much it looked like he had just stepped out of the shower. His guitar was covered in sweat and gunk . hahahahah Jimmy makes the funniest faces and spits all over the place . Some of Jimmys set was good and he got a great applause from the audience. The audience responce when he walked out on stage may have been the biggest from all 3 guys. People love him none the less . But as far as his guitar playing Jimmy was not on the same level as his two rivals .
I’ve seen dozens of interviews with these guys plus Clapton bio pic “12 Bars” and they’re clearly friends, not necessarily besties but they’ve known each other since they were like in they’re early teens and have such different styles and different sounds, not even close to rivals. But Beck was better than both that’s for sure and I love all 3
It was Beck and Page who lived basically next-door to each other growing up, and it was those 2 who were friends since they were about bout 15 -And slowhand lived about a mile away, but didn’t know either of them until they got the music business.
Eric was under contract with Oldham which was why Oldham got the tapes. Jimmy did engineering and production work on them before he gave Oldham the tapes. Eric was not involved with any of those decisions so he got pissed off. And is still pissed off. He needs to get over it.
20 minutes of rehashed stuff that has been out there a long time. Both great players and I spent huge amounts of time in my youth learning Clapton's stuff in particular. But honestly after Blind Faith my interest rapidly dropped. It's like he had 5 or 6 years of brilliance and innovation then... oh well.
Didn't know about the 'legal' bootlegging/mixing but apart from that, the Roger Waters F'up and the lack of content over presentation was poorly derived. I know what it's like working the circuit in a specific trade and you do meet the same people from time to time and sometimes move onto the next contract together. We don't live in each others pockets and no doubt it's similar for musicians. If this is an attempt in utilising AI to help a presentation, don't give up your day job.
O.K. So this is my take on this malarkey. Legend has it that Clapton and Page actually were friendly when they were young. But something happened that soured their friendship. Something to do with a recording. Clapton and Page recorded a tune and from what I heard some "Shi@head" said that he "Owned the rights to the recording". - Something like that.
the truth is....whatever little jam sessions they had - they're NOT designed to 'gel' on any level. Despite all this 'blues history' crap...they're chalk and cheese. And, if anyone was honest...they listen mostly to Led Zepp, if they're having a nostalgic listen of times past
What hasn't been mentioned was whether Pahe knew of the tapes release or whether he was a part of that release. It's a go nowhere story until that gets clarified. And what's with the Roger Waters photos?
At Least give Jeff Beck his due by saying his name and that he replaced EC in the Yardbirds and most Yardbird songs are with hy guitar mastery. I've seen Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton and would go to JB anyday over EC.
And no mention of Peter Green? My, my. Maybe the best of them all, imo. Had he not suffered his mental condition who knows how things might have shaped up? I think the best way to think of this cadre of great British guitarists is there were a number of them all great in their own way. Green, Beck, Page and Clapton, just to name four.
Beck, Clapton, Page and Townshend was at their times the greatest ever from The UK,, Beck I think was technically better than the other three but could never put a band together. Clapton was brilliant although I thought he got a bit lazy in the 70s,, Page and Townshend went on to have the most influential bands of all time! I've never seen Beck live seen Clapton in the 80s but did catch both The Who and Led Zeppelin live. Was great,, although would give the edge live to The Who they were totally untouchable live in the 70s but both great and I got to see them. All great and influential players in different realms of rock n roll. No one here is better than the other only different players. Enjoy the music people!!!!
Sometimes Clapton is simply not comfortable playing right handed, and the stage crew starts to hand over the left handed guitars, yes indeed. Wait what..
In my personal opinion. There are So many great guitar players out there. But if you look at these 3 Guitar Players. They all have completely different styles of playing. Hard Rock bordering on Heavy Metal James Patrick Page blows away Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton. Neither of those Guitar players have ever recorded anything as hard and heavy as Jimi. Now as far as technical prowess and the overall mastery of the electric guitar to create sounds and so many elements of different music into your own unique style Jeff Beck Is a Musical chameleon, he beats the other 2 with his versatility. Yet Eric Clapton is a Guitar Player that has a style that is completely his own and he is an innovator and influencer to many other guitarists, so he is the best example of going for what you know and keeping it simple and not to complex just slow and easy and steady.
Unlike his peers it wasn’t jealousy for E C. I believe Cream along w/ Hendrix took music to the next Level. Led Zeppelin is the Crowning Jewel of the British Blues Experiment. But Zeppelin was outrageously Huge on many levels, I think for Eric it was alienating because ironically it’s where he once was but never achieved the Experimental barrier shattering success of Zeppelin and the path it drove in music history.Personally I don’t think the late 60’s recording mentioned here is that pivotal to E C. Also the concert for Ronnie gave Jimmy a platform to shine again after Zeppelin.Eric deserves credit for that. It also Jimmy to get sober n clean. This rivalry deal is overblown. Still a great video.
I generally loath and avoid comparisons but truthfully, IF not for "CREAM" Led Zeppelin wouldnt have sounded they way they did. NO ONE would who played what was called "Rock" at that time, and though Zeppelin sounded completely different, they would never have had a vision such as they one they hatched if not for Messieurs Bruce, Clapton and Baker. Even "HENDRIX" wanted to meet Eric and hear Cream when he arrived in London in 1966....Cream "set the bar". Ya gotta go back to 1965 for the Genesis of it all because "sonically" nobody was playing Gibson Les Pauls and SGs through Marshalls and getting that turbo-charged "BLUES-ROCK. Years later Stevie Ray was to do with a "Strat" what Clapton did w/ Gibsons, taking Jimi's lush chordal approach and funky syncopation w/ his searing acrobatic Blues runs . The only thing missing was Jimis SyFy imagination but that wasnt Stevies vision. Stevie wanted to be a 21st century Bluesman, and thats what he did !
@@paradox7743 Little man, If you had an original thought in your head, musical or otherwise, it would die of loneliness. Ive forgotten more about music than "you" will ever know. Ive "played" with legends. Who the F are "YOU"
there doesnt need to be a Division over who was Best, I'm calling it a TIE! as for beck, well now Im sorry I missed his show at boston's Orpheum near his end on earth. did he sing?
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Just wanna say that Jeff has been playing a part in bonding them together over the years, since Jeff is good friends with both of them, and now he is gone... RIP
Both pioneers . But Jeff Beck took it further than anyone as both Clapton and Page said .
Never really understood the Clapton thing. Always found him generic and boring whereas the other two are true ground breakers. There, I said it!
@@carstenmoss5025 You need to read up on rock history. Clapton's work on the Bluesbreakers album set a new standard, and was really groundbreaking at that time. He was the one responsible for making the Les Paul/Marshall combination one that became standard in rock. So many others wanted that edgy sound that Clapton had achieved on the Bluesbreakers album.
In Cream, he was leading the way, being ahead of Page and Beck in that regard, with a far more disciplined approach to guitar playing. Of course, Hendrix came along and blew everyone away, but it was a wakeup call. They were all friends, with respect for each other.
In the early 70's, Clapton's interest in "old" Fenders started the lust for vintage Fender Stratocasters. His work in the '70's wasn't as groundbreaking as the Cream days, but he had a string of great hits, and helped to bring Bob Marley and JJ Cale into the spotlight. Sure, there are other blues guitarists, but he was a part of that revival that began in England in the mid 1960's. He was influenced by the 3 Kings, for sure, but this style of music was always about influences, and carrying on traditions. The original Black blues musicians could almost be forgotten if it wasn't for early recordings, and an anthropological interest in the original sources of this music.
Clapton's style has an orthodoxy about it that has since influenced countless guitarists. You need to understand the nature of this process, rather than just being blown away by the next big thing.
Well... In this, I feel Clapton was misinformed. I can list 6 ROCK players who broke the walls down, incl. Hendrix, Holdsworth, ZAPPA... and The list goes on.
Page is respected musically, I acknowledge his talent but the guy was capital C Creepy. Bad juju
@@carstenmoss5025 I used to wonder the same until I watched some of the early Cream and Blind Faith videos. Clapton’s playing is understated and not flashy since it’s blues based like his early playing. Blind Faith in Hyde Park, London, 1969 >> ruclips.net/video/PJJnA6zEcGk/видео.html
@@John_13_35 Please list the other 3.
You list Zappa and Holdsworth, whose music doesn't have the wide appeal that Jeff Beck's has. Being technically proficient and experimental is fine, but one's audience will always be smaller.
Beck was a guitar legend in his lifetime, and lived up to it with music that is essentially melodic and emotional in content. It's a topic that one could argue pointlessly about, because it's subjective in nature, but these elements of music are present in much great classical music as well. It's an element that helps to define greatness, as apposed to being merely interesting and technically clever.
Page will always be the Master Orchestral Songwriter of rock guitar. Led Zeppelin’s catalog is a testament to this. He was always a visionary artist. Page was, is and will always be on another level compared to the rest.
Absolutely True you can’t look past that!
Except for the work he did with Cream, Clapton was kind of dull and boring in my opinion.
@@TheFourWindsBar-777 I tend to agree with that way also. Blind Faith was a Great adventure, but I think ultimately could have been Brilliant n it falls short of that
Oh, and i forgot to include the Beatles White album as some great work by Clapton. But his solo career was no where near as impressive as Page and the Zeppelin catalogue .
You need to be more objective.
Page's songwriting, arranging and individual style was a major contribution to Led Zeppelin, of course.
But, they did stagnate a bit after the 5th album, as rock music evolved in different directions.
By the time they ended, they had become mega-big dinosaurs of rock.
Cream did it all before Led Zeppelin, and their live improvisations took rock into uncharted areas.
It was the chemistry between them, with Baker and Bruce unmatched. Clapton's blues/rock style was the perfect foil, otherwise, their music making may have just become too esoteric, without the popularity they achieved.
After Cream, Clapton chose different paths, and has been hugely successful. He just happens to be one of the most influential guitarists ever, from the Mayall days onward, which is not a bad achievement.
Jeff Beck starred with The Yardbirds, had a few years finding his way without having a huge impact, and then came out with Blow By Blow and Wired, and just kept getting better and better, breaking new ground in terms of guitar technique, and having the most melodic musical style of any electric guitarists that I know of.
He could take a simple melody and orchestrate it with the most astounding control of tone and expression.
There are guitarists who can play far more notes per minute, but so what.
I went to the 83 LA show to see them and support Lane, Clapton came out first, he was great, Page came out 2nd, he was great. Then Beck came out 3rd, and wiped the floor with them back and forth over and over again, no contest. I had never seen Beck live before. Then they all played Train Kept a Rollin- just phenomenal- I will never forget, it was one of the bests things I''ve ever seen I've told this story many times.
I have these ARMS Beck shows saved. Watching them is like a religious experience. Using a basic '57 Reissue Stratocaster, he takes guitar playing to another level entirely.
What a unique and inspired musician he was!!!
I can't find words that really describe his musicianship.
Beck was in another realm altogether.
@@paulmayberry6943 is this where Jimmy played Chopin and Stairway?
1) They did not play in LA, it was San Francisco, Dallas, NYC and London only 2) It was Clapton first, then Beck, then Page, then all 3
Beck was the Goat of that era. Hendrix would of been but died too early
How does Roger Waters pictured, figure into the story of Page/Clapton!??
2 B continued?.....Maybe!!! ...🎹🎸🎸🎵🎵🎵🎶🎶🎶🎙
It s a nonsensical video
@@mlambrechts1I call the vlog pure rubbish.
Come to that, where does Bill Wyman fit into this? These American 'experts' create channels which are designed to attract views, thereby generating income, and the videos are full of utter rubbish in most cases and have 'sensational' titles to attract the viewer, but are, as has been said below, nonsense. They can't even get their facts right! Clapton did not get the nickname of 'Slowhand' with the Yardbirds - it was with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers.
Some stupid photos in this fool probably thinks he's Page
Clapton won't say anything about Page only proves they're still friends. You can be pissed at a friend without dragging him thru the mud.
@@robertcrawford2949 pretentious, angry little man-who needs himself to back up himself. Using 4 different monitors.
Simple, Eric believes Jimmy put out a record that he played on and didn’t share copyright in the mid sixties but Jimmy didn’t have any control over the release,it’s a sleazy business and musicians huge ego’s get in the way.
Pretty good summation. I've followed both of these artists for several decades and I don't think they were ever very close as the video seems to hint at.
That seems to be a story I've heard before. I kinda believe it, because it's a real sticking point. Since they didn't do it together, Clapton will always be suspicious. Clapton feels a certain way about it. Whether Page had control or not, is out of our hands. But Eric didn't like Oldham obviously, he did it for commercial gain. That was a good explanation. Thank you.
@@alanmiller2250 Oldham had also overdubbed some old Stones tracks to make it more 'commercial' without Pages knowledge (according to Page). Clapton did not recieve any royalties nor was he aware of any release. Clapton believes that Page was somehow involved in this betrayal (rightly or not) and said he was Betrayed by Page. Given Page's history with borrowing other's peoples music without consent makes this seem plausible. IMO.
@@mikeshaw4951 anything’s possible I can’t say one way or the other unless you trust the internet for accuracy but that’s what I remember reading of that situation.
Jimmy also had the nickname of
Led Wallet so take that for what it’s worth!
@@mikeshaw4951 k
I love both guitarists although Zeppelin has been my favorite band since I was 10 years old I'm 53 now. And although I love Clapton and he's definitely one of the best blues play in guitarist I've ever heard I'd have to pick Page and Zeppelins work over him because of how versatile page was in all their songs they did so many different styles of Blues and folk mixed with heavy Rock with a lot broader span of Blues than anybody has done to date that's my humble opinion but I love Clapton he's one of my all-time favorites along with Stevie Ray Vaughan Jeff Beck and a few others
And Peter Green, of course.
@@StephenTermin Clapton could never conceive of Achilles last stand or Kashmir,great player but rudimentary.
One big factor in the differences between Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, would be that one sings while playing guitar, and the other just plays guitar - especially true while performing live. I believe that both musicians, in their own rights, are two of the best in what and how they play. Remember, music is mostly in the ears, minds and emotions of the beholders. "Keep on Rockin' in The Free World..."
Well said
Clapton kept blues alive
@@willbyrd5717 when did it die?
He sounds envious abt JP's greatness on the guitar world.
@@MegaScorpio1027 what you’re hearing is fake you do know that right?
The reason he was called slow hand was because when when Clapton would break a guitar string during a concert and replace it on stage, the English audience would wait by doing a "slow handclap". It was a play on his name slow hand CLAPton.
Thank you. I never knew that.
He couldn't afford a backup guitar?
@@guyfantastico8268 The pace of life was a a tad different back then believe it or not. Time and freedom, I remember it well, still do.
It's just a joke. Slow hand clap... ton
@@guyfantastico8268 it was when Clapton was just starting out with the Yardbirds in October of 63 when the “clap” started, and he used very light strings for his extra extreme use of bending and much of his bending was 1 and a half steps. As he was just starting out with a band with a record company, so no he didn’t have extra money for guitars outside of his 63 Red Telecaster back then.
I would love to see them come together again with a few of the other great people before we lose the opportunity ❤guys
Sheesh, the similarity between Jimmy Page and Roger Waters is uncanny... 🤔
Somebody doesn't know the difference between Jimmy Page and Roger Waters. 11:34
My thoughts exactly
I concur. Why the fuck is Roger there
cuz it's probly AI...
Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton being luminaries in the guitar world and who have built and maintained stellar reputations. Juxtaposed against one of Rock Music's greatest faux pas in Roger Waters who continuously shoots himself in the foot, squandering any positivity he may of once had
The photo, I'm sure, was for contrast. Confidence versus Arrogance.
Right? 😂
They should do a biopic about Eric, Jeff Beck's and Jimmy's experiences in the Yardbirds, ending with the sad electrocution death of Keith Relf and their stellar solo careers.
Jimmy page is my goat pick. That’s after studying music for over 30 years.
@@dananthony6258 I hate that saying that came along “the goat”. I’ve been studying music for much longer than that, and if you say that, I really don’t think you’ve been studying music very well. Theory? Just playing guitar? Teaching guitar? I’ve done it all n more and i know JP is far from what young people now use as the word “the goat”. You’ve been studying guitar for 30 years, but you haven’t studied.Jeff Beck John McLaughlin-
Allan Holdsworth Sonny Landreth, How about a little bit more mainstream? And almost all Blues based, Like Sonny- SRV, Rory Gallagher, Luther Allison??? Etc There the Horses.
@ I’m actually studying Barry Harris 6 diminished scale and all his of the minor , major cord scales and inversions and the dominant and dormant b5 . Jimmy page was still the best guitarist that does it for me all these years later. I know all the fancy cat you’ve referred to. Jimmy was a master songwriter and has inspired more than most.
@@dananthony6258 so you’ve been studying for 30 years, but you need the Internet? I know who Barry Harris is. He’s a jazz piano legend. But just what I thought I put in Barry Harris name on Google (to see what I thought you were doing) and the first thing that comes up on his names is countless instruction videos of exactly the words you used. “Barry Harris teaching the 6th diminished scale”. I was more impressed when as a 50 something year old you called Jimmy Page the goat,just sounded off. . As Us middle aged Or as you would prob. refer to as “old people” we 50+ dinosaurs don’t talk that way.and as a 30+ year-old veterans such as yourself I wouldn’t think you need the Internet to learn music. Cmon your a teenager who loves Led Zeppelin just learning to play, there is nothing wrong with that.
@ I think you Sergio have issues man. You help or something. I’m a 48 year old man male and I’ve been playing since I was 12. I was that teenager that loved Jimmy page and still do. You think you’re some kind of genius because you listen to John McLaughlin. I’m not into Indian music sorry. I happen to be studying jazz theory and to say using the internet is somehow not a viable source is ridiculous. I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t even know the difference between a major 7th or a dominant 7 never mind what’s is a tritone minor or a tritone substitution if it fell out of a tree and hit you in the head, you probably can’t even read music.
@ get a life you probably can’t even play guitar. Go dust off that crappy little squire with 5 string in you basement.
Clapton peaked with Cream ..after that he just went commercial for the rest of his career ,However,Page went on to take rock music to a new level with Zeppelin .. a band that became the bench mark for every rock band since ..only Hendrix tops Page as the best rock guitarist ever !!🔥🎸🔥🎸
So Page is a better guitarist than John McLaughlin-
Allan Holdsworth-
Sonny Landreth-
SRV, Rory Gallagher, Luther Allison, Otis Rush, EC himself, Buddy Guy I can go on for about 10 more hours.
@Stratman1512 Definitely !! Remember, all art is 100% personal opinion and preferences. Better to some worse to others. 😉 Peace out ✌🏼
@@mahdlomusic2905 Hendrix is way overrated
@@Hundert1 no all are is not personal opinion my eight-year-old nephew is not a better guitar player than Jimi Hendrix as he just started playing guitar six months ago. You have no idea of what you’re talking about in anything that has to do with music. And from what we talked about before, you are definitely
Far from being mature mature. I’m starting to think you’re just a bigot.
@@Hundert1 you def. Misunderstood what I said.-and you have no business speaking about any type of music. Based on your earlier comments.
Clapton did NOT get the name 'slow hand' from his guitar playing. He was given that name by one of the Yardbirds (believed to be Chris Dreya) because he regularly broke his strings and would take ages over changing and re-tuning. Just sayin'
I find them all great musicians. When it is between Page and Clapton, I prefer Page more. He can do everything Eric can, but then more creative and original. Especially as a composer/arranger. And Jeff Beck takes it even further... But again, I appreciate all of them.
Clapton would kick his ass down the street.
Page was far more exploratory than anyone. He took chances and developed.
@@vinylprodigy7340 yeah and what has JP done in the last 44 years
@@vinylprodigy7340 true!
@@Stratman1512He stepped aside to make room for lesser guitarists to have their time in his spotlight...like Clapton.
Clapton, Page and Beck are all terrific in different ways. Clapton is by far the best singer and has been a prolific song writer. Page is a great acoustic player, band leader and producer. Beck is very innovative and did great work in jazz fusion.
Totally Agree ! fair assessment !
Page was great acoustic player? I think that's beyond incomplete.
Three different flavors of awesome music
@@johnsample5628 the only thing incomplete about that is Eric Clapton‘s a better acoustic player of the 2, acoustic, electric. It’s all about guitar.
@@hanzofunai4238 that assessment of Page is sadly incomplete
Clapton... Bless You... Slow Hand.
Page... Fast Hand...Led Zeppelin... Bless Us All...
Zepp Wins. Come on...☯️☮️🎸
We Are Lucky for Both.
Page winds anyway!!
Neither one of them can come two feet near Jeff Beck! And that's a FACT!!!
lol, overstatement
@@rmcnak7885 I don’t think Eric or Jimmy would argue that
lol. Clapton has been the biggest tease since Cream. His solos are tame and usually in an outtro that fades way too quickly. I’ve seen him live many times and he is a fantastic guitar player but not close to Page. Page gave everything he had. He was the music he didn’t just play it he lived it.
Sorry but I'm calling Bulshavic on this RUclips segment. First of all Jimmy & Eric were never "Close" friends. Jimmy grew up with Jeff Beck in the same neighborhood NOT Clapton. Yes Jimmy & Eric had done some jamming together with recordings of the sessions. But Musicians like themselves did a lot of those back in the day so it wasn't anything special of those recordings other than the fact that you had 2 Great guitar players. Secondly Jimmy had nothing to do with the Release of those Recordings so you have that as well. Bottom Line, Jimmy & Eric were NEVER close friends so this is much ado about nothing!
Absolutely.
I totally agree. Eric was best friends with George Harrison and stole his wife with it too. They stayed friends sort of. Jeff was just a better natural talent of blues than Eric who had to work at it. Page was more acoustic sinth. With ballads. All great in their own ways. Don't know where Waters came from tbh
This is standard tabloid drivel…click bait.
A clash between cocain&heroin,besides egos&music industry.
@@davegilmore7420 Clapton drank and abused heroine all through the 70’s and a tad racist,Yeah Jimmy had his demons as well but he never complained about black people taking over Great Britain!
@@davegilmore7420 the more Band members the more drama you get and if you make it then it only gets harder to keep it together drugs and booze make it worse.
Give Rita Coolidge her song back
Zeppelin is definitely the greatest of all time ❤🎉
Clapton and Beck are still my two favorite players for many reasons Clapton for the Blues and Progressive Rock , Beck for Fusion
He should break his silence about Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan
Page>>Clapton, end of story.
I don't understand why he blames Jimmy for the release of the session tapes. From this podcast it doesn't sound like Jimmy made them commercial, so I don't understand why he would place the blame on Jimmy.
@@judithhorvath887 the video is fake. But Those tapes JP produced, & EC thought it was just him and his friend just jamming, not to be played for the public. It was never supposed to be about money something Eric didn’t learn about Page yet is everything about Jimmy is money. And he was known around London young Jimmy was a whiz or a engineer but he ripped many off when producing (as he became a very good engineer before he became a Yardbird then LZ. It was said he ripped off so many people as a engineer he couldn’t work
As 1 anymore except for a band that he made himself hence Led Zeppelin. And being that JP produced that session with Clapton, JP had power to release those tapes, and it wasn’t as much as releasing those tapes it was about Eric never received a dime from them, so of course, he believed JP took Eric’s share. And Page said to Eric he never received a dime either but Slowhand never believed him, and it makes sense being he was the producer of those tapes, that page would take Eric’s share, being he was known to do things like that. And that’s where they stopped talking for a little while, and we’re never as close as they were pre-Zepplin again. Even though Clapton did forgive him, partly. So it had to do with Jimmy stealing from Eric more than it had to do with any release. 1 reason why you never saw Page at a Eric Clapton crossroads concert as one of the 15 or so guitarists, Eric invites every three years. Besides many other reasons.As Buddy Guy nor Gary Glark Jr. or any successful blues guitarist of any color would even play a date with him.
I'm 70 and have been playing guitar for 58 years now and Clapton is not the best guitar player in the world.
There is no 'best guitar player in the world' so you are correct.
@@gs3-o4f as far as being better, I think Joe Bonamasa is a better guitar player than Clapton.
And neither is Jimmy Page. Who can't play at all anymore and hasn't been able to for some time now.
@lancewilson7038 I think Joe Bonamasa is probably the best these days.
Clapton seems like a real thorny Grudgegy guy
Clapton is certainly a fine guitarist, but was over-rated and the most limited in styles, between himself, J.P. and J.B. Jimmy and Jeff were both more innovative, energetic and technically proficient, in MY humble opinion.
Your opinion sucks, Clapton has the best blues tone ever.
@@toddnilsson5664He said Beck and Page were more innovative, energetic and technically proficient...and said nothing about tone, so your comment is a non-starter. It doesn't apply so get a clue and pay attention Homer.
@@philosopher0076 Harsh, but observant in perception.
In terms of musical imagination , Clapton is a river -- Page is an ocean .
And where does that leave Beck?
@@jonathanlake6053 - In the Stratosphere! 🎇
Definitely in a class by himself!
RIP
They are all great. Ultimately all these guys got palpitations when they saw Hendrix the first time…not saying he was objectively better technician or composer or producer…but he changed all of them.
I can say this, I once went to a concert in New York back in the 80s where this was a special concert that had Page, Clapton and Beck performing, Jimmy looked a bit drunk and he padded Eric on the back, pretty hard and I remember clearly seeing the look on Erics face and I could easily see he did not like Page one bit that night
@@Stratman1512 Nope, I seen with my own eyes in New York it was Clapton, Page and Beck, I am NOT making this up, this was back in the 80s and I am telling you I clearly remember when Page padded Clapton on the back,,,,,,,,,and my other name is Deanman ,,,,,,,,,,,sold my Explorer
@ i believe you, I apologize for doubting you.
I play guitar myself and jimmy page wrote and produced all of led Zeppelins music....he was into dark magic and I don't know if he sold his soul to Satan but zoso a word on a album cover is actually a name of a powerful entity or demon... Clapton was a great musician also...but Page was in a world of his own ....I've learned a few songs from Zeppelin and I will say this..... The tuning on some of the songs is outrageous....drop D is one of them and many musicians use that tuning because using power chords is really heavy but they only tune down the E string...But when you tune completely down like he did in many of his songs is beautiful what he wrote....
I like both of them but Page was my influence to pick up the guitar and I believe he was far more innovative than Clapton especially after learning to play both of their music
Whiel Calpton is talented, and has done some great stuff, I often get bored with him doing a lot of nothing all that really special. Seems to me his biggest contribution, was the Crossroads festival, and preserving the music of some legends before they were gone. Maybe Page was more commercialy inclined, whatever. Beck is another anomaly again, and Page and Clapton really can't be put together in conversation, without him as well. Is one really any better than the other, hard to say, they are all different from each other.
They're all jealous of Pagey.
Yes!!! With reason.
Everybody always talk about Hendrix, Beck, Clapton and Page... Why Blackmore is always underrated?
He’s not as good.
@@pbc18 I think it has a lot to do with his attitude,according to Ronnie James Dio he used to spit and yell at fans after shows and genuinely not a nice person,as a player he was fantastic.
This is a very strange retelling of history.its kinda funny
Led Zeppelin ❤️❤️❤️
Old school business.
Clapton a player.
Page a industry player.
Work and business.
The AI thinks Rodger Waters is Jimmy Page!! AHAHAHHAAHAH Pull the Plug!!!!!
Thanks for calling this out. I’m getting tired of these AI infused posts that have little substance and invariably repeat the same featureless phrases over and over. They take a nothingburger and serve it with no bun.
Jeez, Clapton would love to be Jimmy Page ! !.
No he wouldn't. For one thing he's got WAAAY more money than Page. Plus, Jimmy can barely play a guitar anymore.
@@lancewilson7038 Easily triggered ! !
Stills are shown sometimes with narration that has nothing to do with one another.
Proper English is "Eric Clapton Finally Breaks Silence About Jimmy Page"
CORRECT English is "Eric Clapton Finally Breaks Silence About Jimmy Page"!
@@jokermaan1 CORRECT and PROPER - and no, they're not the same thing.
Page formed the greatest rock-n-roll band of all time!
1. Led Zeppelin
2. The Beatles
3. The Rolling Stones
I don't remember him in The Who?
and greatest plagiarists as well.
Not a fan of Led Zeppelin and never will be. But that spectacular guitar work on Donovan's 'Hurdy Gurdy Man' was Jimmy Page.
@@clappersox Pete’s hero’s are little boys
@@peruda-k4p if you were in the business you’d understand there isn’t anything original.
If Page would have just stayed away from the voodoo stuff.
I had this recording for a long time. It wasn't commercial at all. It was exactly what Eric said it was. It was a jam session. I'm not sure how the recording came about until now. One thing is for sure these guys were extremely geld. It's ashame because I think the trust was broken. Knowing much of Jimmy's work ethic, I can't see how Jimmy would let an experimental project be released. Who knows, though?
@@johnnilsson1311 Jimmy had his hands full at that time he was playing in a band while still doing session work so I could see how something like that could happen it’s unfortunate but only they know the real story but I’d give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt
Dont forget about Jeff Beck at that time too!
Most music fans could not give a stuff about their relationships as they are different style guitarists and have their own set of fans! It is the Music that matters not the possible rift or not between them!
I like page over Clapton . Page got the Feeling who transsmit in his guitar that was the diferencia ! To me 😊
I'm the total opposite, lol.but I respect your opinion.
Clapton and Page may have had the spotlight at one time but, as a result being in the same band as well and replacing Eric Clapton was Jeff Beck and Jeff Beck had surpassed Jimmy Page's and Eric Clapton's ability to play guitar more vastly. Jeff Beck's absence in the music world will be sadly missed... He is the unsung Hero here... I understand it is about the relationship between Page and Clapton but, Jeff Beck was part of that era too. Hence now please, Is this about friendship or about music ability here? Sincerely.
love the random pictures of Roger Waters as opposed to Jimmy Page....
CLLAPTON..
GIVEN FENTASTIC RELEATIONSHIP IN VIEW OF 'BEAUTY OF HIS ART
JOURNY EVERYDAY. HE PRESENT
'MMAGIC OF HIS SUPEERIOR MUSIC
SONG ART VERY AMEZING 'PRESENTATION LIKE ROCK MUSIC
IN CLASICAL
@@Thangamani-m1j yeah,what he said😂
I am so happy that Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page are still friends. I have a pretty extensive knowledge of Rock and roll history so I was surprised to hear about these tapes or a collaboration between Clapton & Page that was recorded. Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page are two of my favorite guitar players in rock and the blues. I have been heavily influenced from both guitarist's playing and music. I love both these iconic guitar players and would love to see them perform togather again. It's ok to have disagreements and still be friends. I can only hope that they come togather and maybe make a blues/rock album togather of original music and perform togather! This would truly be exceptional and whatever disagreements may be let go. I am glad to hear that they are still friends and that my two favorite guitar players are still performing. It would be incredible if they performed togather again and I believe that both guitar players could make a album togather promoting there love for the blues that I believe needs a good revival. Not since Stevie Ray Vaugh has the blues music been on the commercial charts or radio air play although you can bet that if Clapton & Page collaborated togather and performed blues rock music togather, It would be a project that with a few iconic musicians like maybe Rod Stewart or Paul Rogers singing lead vocal with great guitar harmonies could bring back the love for the blues. I would pay to buy that album and pay to see there band on tour! Maybe Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page will see my comment here and possibly make a album togather to promote the blues. Xoxo, David Allen Drotar ##ddrotar #RockHall2024 #rockandrollhalloffame 🙂✌🏻❤️🎼🎸🎤🔊🎶🎵🤘👍
After midnight was a cool song and he has some good ideas however, he doesn't compare to Jimmy Page....and the Dynamics of led Zeppelin...
When you see the movie song remains the same.....you see the real superstars that they were...... Jimmy Page had it all the perfect rock guitarist...and his acoustic pieces were excellent..the sign of a genius...
and
an advantage that 6:05 helped Jimmy Page was bonzo, plant and jp Jones....with that kind of backing, Jimmy was able to take it all the way to the top of the world,!!!!
What's with Roger Waters? That's not Page! Lol.
Guess you forgot Jeff Beck was involved with both too.
Just two guitar heroes I absolutely love. A money horny manager destorying everything. Just let it go, guys.
Saw 3 nights of ARMS shows back in early eighties. Jeff was the man all three. Jimmy was still riding high on his earlier sucess was stale and extremely sloppy. I had seen LZ a few times and saw the Outrider tour so i had some exposure to his live shows . My seats were close to the stage and could see their faces and expressions . Seeing the look on Erics face in reaction to what Jimmy was playing was very telling. It was very awkward . You could almost see a look of embarrassment for Jimmy and disbelief from Eric. When Jimmy bends often times he doesnt quite reach the notes hes shooting for and they sound flat and out of tune . His solo on Stairway to Heaven was terrible. He was sweating so much it looked like he had just stepped out of the shower. His guitar was covered in sweat and gunk . hahahahah Jimmy makes the funniest faces and spits all over the place . Some of Jimmys set was good and he got a great applause from the audience. The audience responce when he walked out on stage may have been the biggest from all 3 guys. People love him none the less . But as far as his guitar playing Jimmy was not on the same level as his two rivals .
Ah those pics of Pink Floyd axeman along side of EC was confusing.
Silence says volumes. Who ever put this together be silent because there is no fact to this
Zappa said it best… shut up and play your guitar 🤣
uh - thats not page in the picture around falfway in
Are people actually that concerned that two men with the same job weren’t best friends for some reason? Kind of cute. But odd.
I’ve seen dozens of interviews with these guys plus Clapton bio pic “12 Bars” and they’re clearly friends, not necessarily besties but they’ve known each other since they were like in they’re early teens and have such different styles and different sounds, not even close to rivals. But Beck was better than both that’s for sure and I love all 3
It was Beck and Page who lived basically next-door to each other growing up, and it was those 2 who were friends since they were about bout 15 -And slowhand lived about a mile away, but didn’t know either of them until they got the music business.
Eric was under contract with Oldham which was why Oldham got the tapes. Jimmy did engineering and production work on them before he gave Oldham the tapes. Eric was not involved with any of those decisions so he got pissed off. And is still pissed off. He needs to get over it.
20 minutes of rehashed stuff that has been out there a long time.
Both great players and I spent huge amounts of time in my youth learning Clapton's stuff in particular. But honestly after Blind Faith my interest rapidly dropped. It's like he had 5 or 6 years of brilliance and innovation then... oh well.
Much adoo about nothing is a fair description. And, what's up with the clapton /waters pics when your talking about Page
Didn't know about the 'legal' bootlegging/mixing but apart from that, the Roger Waters F'up and the lack of content over presentation was poorly derived.
I know what it's like working the circuit in a specific trade and you do meet the same people from time to time and sometimes move onto the next contract together.
We don't live in each others pockets and no doubt it's similar for musicians. If this is an attempt in utilising AI to help a presentation, don't give up your day job.
O.K. So this is my take on this malarkey. Legend has it that Clapton and Page actually were friendly when they were young. But something happened that soured their friendship. Something to do with a recording. Clapton and Page recorded a tune and from what I heard some "Shi@head" said that he "Owned the rights to the recording". - Something like that.
What a fantastic video have a great day ❤😊
I like when you are talking about page and clapton you show photos of waters and clapton. Strange. Sounds like not much of a story.
i played alongside TS Mcphee and The Groundhogs. I know what genius looks like
the truth is....whatever little jam sessions they had - they're NOT designed to 'gel' on any level. Despite all this 'blues history' crap...they're chalk and cheese.
And, if anyone was honest...they listen mostly to Led Zepp, if they're having a nostalgic listen of times past
What hasn't been mentioned was whether Pahe knew of the tapes release or whether he was a part of that release. It's a go nowhere story until that gets clarified. And what's with the Roger Waters photos?
Clapton was More folksy Blues where Page was more Power Blues ! Differing Styles but both Great !
At Least give Jeff Beck his due by saying his name and that he replaced EC in the Yardbirds and most Yardbird songs are with hy guitar mastery. I've seen Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton and would go to JB anyday over EC.
And no mention of Peter Green? My, my. Maybe the best of them all, imo. Had he not suffered his mental condition who knows how things might have shaped up? I think the best way to think of this cadre of great British guitarists is there were a number of them all great in their own way. Green, Beck, Page and Clapton, just to name four.
+ Alvin Lee.
@@andrasczehlarik9180 Yep, and Kim Simmonds, Stan Web,, Martin Barre and half a dozen others. It was an era of fantastic guitarists.
@@mic982 Iagree. Cheers.
Beck, Clapton, Page and Townshend was at their times the greatest ever from The UK,, Beck I think was technically better than the other three but could never put a band together. Clapton was brilliant although I thought he got a bit lazy in the 70s,, Page and Townshend went on to have the most influential bands of all time! I've never seen Beck live seen Clapton in the 80s but did catch both The Who and Led Zeppelin live. Was great,, although would give the edge live to The Who they were totally untouchable live in the 70s but both great and I got to see them. All great and influential players in different realms of rock n roll. No one here is better than the other only different players. Enjoy the music people!!!!
Why put up photos of Roger Waters?
Would help if they knew the difference between Jimmy and Roger waters
Sometimes Clapton is simply not comfortable playing right handed, and the stage crew starts to hand over the left handed guitars, yes indeed. Wait what..
In my personal opinion. There are So many great guitar players out there. But if you look at these 3 Guitar Players. They all have completely different styles of playing. Hard Rock bordering on Heavy Metal James Patrick Page blows away Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton. Neither of those Guitar players have ever recorded anything as hard and heavy as Jimi. Now as far as technical prowess and the overall mastery of the electric guitar to create sounds and so many elements of different music into your own unique style Jeff Beck Is a Musical chameleon, he beats the other 2 with his versatility. Yet Eric Clapton is a Guitar Player that has a style that is completely his own and he is an innovator and influencer to many other guitarists, so he is the best example of going for what you know and keeping it simple and not to complex just slow and easy and steady.
there is a difference between Jimmy Page and Roger Waters!!!
Page seems to look a lot like Roger Waters at the Ronnie Lane concert.
He looks like Yoda
Ummm Jeff Beck replaced Clapton in the Yardbirds....Page replaced Beck.
Unlike his peers it wasn’t jealousy for E C. I believe Cream along w/ Hendrix took music to the next Level. Led Zeppelin is the Crowning Jewel of the British Blues Experiment. But Zeppelin was outrageously Huge on many levels, I think for Eric it was alienating because ironically it’s where he once was but never achieved the Experimental barrier shattering success of Zeppelin and the path it drove in music history.Personally I don’t think the late 60’s recording mentioned here is that pivotal to E C. Also the concert for Ronnie gave Jimmy a platform to shine again after Zeppelin.Eric deserves credit for that. It also Jimmy to get sober n clean. This rivalry deal is overblown. Still a great video.
I generally loath and avoid comparisons but truthfully, IF not for "CREAM" Led Zeppelin wouldnt have sounded they way they did. NO ONE would who played what was called "Rock" at that time, and though Zeppelin sounded completely different, they would never have had a vision such as they one they hatched if not for Messieurs Bruce, Clapton and Baker.
Even "HENDRIX" wanted to meet Eric and hear Cream when he arrived in London in 1966....Cream "set the bar".
Ya gotta go back to 1965 for the Genesis of it all because "sonically" nobody was playing Gibson Les Pauls and SGs through Marshalls and getting that turbo-charged "BLUES-ROCK.
Years later Stevie Ray was to do with a "Strat" what Clapton did w/ Gibsons, taking Jimi's lush chordal approach and funky syncopation w/ his searing acrobatic Blues runs . The only thing missing was Jimis SyFy imagination but that wasnt Stevies vision. Stevie wanted to be a 21st century Bluesman, and thats what he did !
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Ive forgotten more about music than "you" will ever know. Ive "played" with legends. Who the F are "YOU"
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This is a whole lotta nothing. No silence was broken, nothing was said.
why do they keep showing roger waters?
What song are you talking about? You never say, Zeppelin ruled the day every day, ha ha.
there doesnt need to be a Division over who was Best, I'm calling it a TIE! as for beck, well now Im sorry I missed his show at boston's Orpheum near his end on earth. did he sing?
I am a big fan of Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, but this was a load of you know what.
Air Wick ??? Sounds like a fragrance?
In my opinion Clapton was and is a much better guitarist. Just much more talented, period. Just MY OPINION.,nothing more.