Bartok String Quartets on Bass Guitar - [ AN's Bass Lessons #18 ]
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Béla Bartok's string quartets are a great example of modernist harmony and melody. They're quite intense, but a lot of fun to play!
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I bet this guy's channel is gonna be huge soon. I can't believe he only has 10k subs.
18K two months later; he's growing
41,915
Why are we doing this again?
54, 477. Holy shit he's growing fast, really fast. 13000 or so in 2 days, isn't that?
I only discovered his channel, like, a week or two ago. His videos suddenly started showing up in the sidebars of the stuff I usually watch. They have interesting titles with the content to back them up, which isn't extremely common on RUclips. I'd say he's just damn good at what he's doing and people are starting to notice. I hope it keeps going, because so far he's certainly earning it.
The fact that he's, uh, easy on the eyes doesn't hurt.
And now he has almost 90,000 subs! That's about 35,000 new subs in one week. Whoa...
I am a 63 yrs old old violist who studied at London's Royal Academy of Music in 1973, with Sidney Griller, and where we played 2 of the Bartok Quartets (3 and 6) in concerts. You, sir, are awesome. Thank you.
Waiting for someone to try and correct his spelling
Nice! They must have been hard.
There is a lack of pedagogy for some ignorants in Classical Music like me. I cannot follow the "rythm" of this vidéo though i recognize it belongs to a high level of comprehension of a type of music. But it goes so fast !!!!
Love this. Always loved Bartok's String Quartets. Absolutely adore the Concerto For Orchestra. That distorted bass tone works perfectly.
hi mark :)
Oh hi Mark!
Played Concerto for Orchestra once. Orchestra part was harder than any solo piece I ever played. Very difficult, but an amazing piece.
Bartok spent a lot of time collecting folklore melodies on the western side of Romania, which then he later arranged and developed them into serious compositions. In fact he was born in Sânnicolau Mare, a town in Timiș County. Back then it was under the occupation of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but since 1920 is under the Romanian border. He was especially fascinated by the diversity of Christmas carols, many of them being sang in odd meters using modal structures. Thank you for showing me that the complexity of his music can also be integrated in modern settings!
Bartok. It’s not just metal, it’s PROG metal! To think that this was written in 1934… I _should_ be listening to modern _older_ music!
JG Reis does that make Prog metal no longer progressive if it was done 100 years ago?
But just "classical music plus rock" is what constitutes progressive rock.
Bartok is metal in the way the Dillinger Escape Plan is metal
Give Shostakovich string quartet no.8 2nd mvmt a listen!
Or give this a shot as well ruclips.net/video/NJ3zzNI0oRc/видео.html
I'm a classical bass player (student) and I have absolutely fallen in love with these videos. I feel like I get a lot from these videos, even about classical music, because of the deep knowlege and clearness. Just great!
I am Japanese amateur cellist.
I love the tone color of E.Bass!
And I love bartok's string quartet!
This video is amazing...
I'd like to listen to your bartok more!!!
Bortók was fantastic! Greetings from Hungary we are so proud of him :) nice job Adam, thanks for your advices!
It kinda sounds like King Crimson.. Awesome!
That's exactly right. Fripp at one point said one of his goals was to explore what it would sound like if Hendrix played Bartok.
Excellent performance, sir. I especially dig your choice of a dirtier bass tone reminiscent of John Wetton during his King Crimson days (and considering Robert Fripp of the same band was heavily influenced by these same Bartok quartets, it actually kinda makes sense). Out of curiosity (maybe it might get covered in your Q&As), what's your personal taste for the use of distorted bass tones?
suuuundown, dazzliiiiing day
I thought the same thing!
YEAAAAAAAAAH! I FOUND THE RIGHT CHANNEL!
STARLESS AAAAAAND BIBLE BLACK
I felt the distortion maybe used to match the string sound a little bit, especially scratchy bits.
...I've literally never heard or heard of Bartok before. It's FANTASTIC! Thank you!!
his string quartets are hipster heavy metal. before it became mainstream
@@MingJianYap it's classical music, very different from metal.
Best bass channel on RUclips!
I'm a guitarist and I get a ton out of this channel as well!
I agree. but do you know any others that are good as well? i am looking for some ^^
Davie504
@@lod340 I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY-
@@lod340 More memes than music
Is that Glenn's t-shirt? The rule number 2? Hahaha!
i was wondering the same thing, i think it is.
Sumido S. i love that neely is the antithesis to everything Glenn thinks about bass players, haha
That "metal" bit was epic!!!!!!! got me listening to the whole thing
rafa3lico more proof that metal and classical are one and the same
not at all hahaha
so djenty
I would like to hear a whole movement.
I was just going to write that!
Then go and listen the original string quartet.
Build me a time machine and we can make that happen.
I’ve just started back eating keto. I’d like to HAVE a whole movement.
there aint anything more cool than a bass dude jamming along to Bartok! yeah!!!
Bartok is definitely the man!
finally someone else that headbangs to classical music!
I LOVE Bartok! he's my fave, I've played many of Bartoks compositions
There's not very many things about my native country that I can be proud of in 2020, but Bartók Béla is one, and a timeless one at that.
And I love the fact that you love his stuff so much, Adam!
i have to listen to bartok now!
klick2destruct .... Try Bartok's first Piano Concerto played by Yuja Wang.... she's not ...um... er.. dreary..!!!..& make sure everybody is out...
... & play it LOUD...!... & turn the bass up... heh...!
Thanks for the recommendation! Will defo check it out
Not Yuja Wang lol . Listen to the three concertos by Jeno Jando instead . The violin works by Kelemen , and piano solo work by Kocsis .
I knew him 'cos ELP sang « The Barbarian ».
tromboners
Tyler Reed genious! Haha.
I almost shed a tear, thanks for the shout out Adam! :')
Trump Boners?
TRIALandMUSIC
Now tha tis a scary thought........I'm going to have nightmares
The technically-correct term
As a classical musician, I actually prefer your version Adam - I think the bass brings greater depth to the sound given the limitation of "bass voice" range in a string quartet, but it's also just heaps meatier and real juicy. You did a killer job of interpreting this part, well done! Have you considered playing through other quartets? Other Bartok is good, but could work well with Shostakovich works too maybe. What's your opinion on the inclusion of electric bass - but also other modern instruments into classical settings (such as more contemporary classical works)? Do you enjoy playing "Art Music" that's in a more modern style?
That's pretty bold. I've done quite a bit of classical music transcribed to bass but more baroque and romantic. Bartok is another story. You got me thinking.
What I love about your videos are that, while they are technically bass lessons, they're actually great lessons for musicians in general because you talk about music theory so much.
Bartok, the real originator of metal.
Nah. Beethoven beat him by a century.
Aaron Christopher and the true innovator of slap bass😁
Aaron Christopher Paganini tho or Bachs organ
@@BD-rk6hx Beethoven is punk.
I missed this one! I love Bartok´s quartets (his entire work, in fact), but I haven´t listened enough to them so that I could say I could sing along with them (in the same way that you can sing Beethoven´s works... except for the last quartets)... I´ll try.
In Hungary, Bela Bartok is famous for collecting and categorising folk music, and now you saying he was basically composing music resembles The Dillinger escape plan. Damn, I love the Internet. Thanks Adam Neely. I wuv you.
awesome to hear this composer spoken about in this context! Great playing too.
That tone was like Chris Squire's rick… awesome.
That was awesome and beautiful at the same time.It has definitely motivated to learn some Bartok,and fortunately I know I have some string quartet pieces on vinyl.I will have to see which pieces I own and then find the music.Again, that was beautiful.
Though I've listened to Bartok quartets many times, until this video I didn't hear the similarity that I now do between this music and that of Yes, for example, The Gates of Delirium. Of course it's the bass tone that bridged it for me to Chris Squire, but it's not the sound of the bass that actually links the musical pieces, which is what I find so amusing.
This is awesome. Thanks Adam. Bartoks music is important, and this is a great translation to bass
I just learnt so much. Adam Neely for President...
as if bartok wasn't terrifying enough already....
yeah he gives me this kind of a weird boner.
Bravo sir. Barton would have been proud. 100 years later and yes still the most metal thing in the music world
A Bryan Beller reference AND a Rule #2 shirt? In a video about Bartok on the bass guitar? Awesome.
very interesting and useful explanation, I have always tried to play orchestral music with both electric guitar and bass guitar,thanks to your videos now I have a better understanding of it!
These are really fabulous. The bass sound is just right to blend yet be heard clearly. As someone pointed out, it is similar to Wetton's tone in the 70s King Crimson. Fripp was a huge Bartok fan and was writing rock using similar approaches (see Fracture). Kudos to you for taking this further. And if you'd like to hear some more Bartok arranged for rock power trio, check out Dialeto's Bartok in Rock album and the live follow-up, both of which feature David Cross. Thanks for this!
man your channel is divine
Yvan Cluet like Scott Divine?
Venetian Snares uses samples of Bartok's quartets on Rossz Csillag Allatt Szuletett. You can hear the opening line of Neely's performance on the main phrase of "Hajnal", although transposed.
Man, this is so progressive metal!!! Amazing.
I rarely study bass guitar, but this material is still REAL interesting for me as a musician! In a first moment it automatically made me want to listen to Bartok again, and also made me mind little interpretation and dynamic content! Thanks a lot, Adam!
Holy hell!! The 5th movement from the 4th string quartet blew my mind. That's a century ago... truly mind boggling.
Doing a thrash cover asap!!!
I played this quartet not too long ago and I find it refreshing to mind a bass play the same part I had to figure out on cello. Well done!
Please transcribe more Bartok. Music for Strings, Celesta and percussion for instance.
I've owned several versions of the quartets and I still think the Julliard quartet recordings are the best out there.
Bartok 1st string quartet is like my favourite ever (!)
My high school marching and used the fifth movement of his fourth quartet in our show my senior year. It sounds legit when transcribed for a brass section.
+Adam Neely ...awesome ...these have long been my favourite string quartets. Amazing to see you perform them on an electric bass.
People who like music will probably appreciate Venetian Snares' album Rossz Csillag Alatt Született. He samples Hungarian orchestral pieces (including some Bartok) puts them in mostly 7/8 time, and adds breakcore. Such an innovative idea and, even though I'm not really much of a fan of either breakcore or classical orchestral music, one of my favorite albums for how skillfully it's put together. I highly recommend people check it out.
Finally someone who knows his shit! I really love what your're doing, it's so insightful.
I've been a devout follower for a while, and every time I finish a new video I can't wait for the next. So, yeah, best bass channel on RUclips-and, might I add, big time. Also, the choice of tone for this piece was bang on.
Adam, I just discovered you and your channel, watched about 8 videos including this one, and I am now subscribed! Excellent! Well produced, thoughtful, intelligent, and tasteful! Once I hit the Bartok, I was convinced you were right up my alley! Also loved the Cantus Firmus, classical musicians rhythm, Nancarrow, polyrhythms, and odd signatures. Your discussion of 5/8 in the odd sig one made me think of the middle section of the middle movement of Bartok's 5th (marked 3+2+2+3/8), which I've long loved for the way it begins to feel 6/8-ish at full speed.
I look forward to watching more of your videos and listening to your music, too!
Thoughts on the 5:30 section of the video: the faster when you're louder and slower when you're quieter is often just if you're sloppy afaik... Maybe there is a certain style, but it is just if you have poor control I find and you aren't paying attention, but it can be caused by a variety of reasons.
1. You are speeding up in the piece (because you are actually supposed to) and you are paying closer attention to the fact that you are playing more notes, so you just ignore volume and consequently, your playing gets a lot louder or a lot quieter depending on what kind of player you are.
2. It says to get louder and you get really excited and speed up a lot because loud means fun and fun means fast.
3. It says to slow down, so you feel it needs to contrast the previous bit a lot, so you play quietly.
4. The composer wants you to play quieter, so you make it really dramatic (accidentally), and play really slow.
5. The sheet music says 'Rubato'
6. You're actually playing free jazz.
5:35 hahaha we had a substitute teacher in fifth grade that talked like that to our endless amusement. Didn't take many days to dub her "The Volume Knob" and everyone knew who that was! :D Apart from that she was a nice lady, I should add.
incredible music that man wrote, always so much more than just a listening experience.
Finally Bartok getting some love.
Now find three metal shredders to accompany you and record THAT!
These guys? ruclips.net/video/PZFl0gQLz2k/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/6TcyOKJilHI/видео.html
Stunning musicality. It breathes.
holy crap yes
+happyricepaddle Hey there! :D
Hi! :)
Great video! I never had any formal music training but when I'm practicing at home, I've always gravitated to classical. Joy of man's desiring, Bach prelude 1. I found it really helped my fingering even though i haven't been able to bring that into my folk/funk band. I think I'm a cello player trapped in this bassists body. My first bass was a fretless too! Now I am rambling...Bass.
I never liked classical music before except for some Chopin, and now i rediscover it! Thank you.
You must be the best music educator in RUclips. I can't put to words how amazing your videos are
This is pure gold
Just discovered this gem of a video. Will have to come back to watch it again, so much to learn here. Thanks, Adam!
Phantastic! Both you and Bartok!
This is brilliant. It took balls. I thoroughly enjoy all your videos, but this one is exceptional. You've shed new light on some of my favourite music.
love your videos. The old ones and the new ones. LOVE YOU ADAM BASS
This is SICK Adam. I love Bartok.
Wow, your blend and even your phrasing matched so well with the recording, especially towards the end.
Tremendously informative ! Best bass lessons on RUclips by a country mile
On the topic of playing cello parts with differences in cello tuning, it's pretty easy get a 5ths tuning string set going on electric bass than double, and a whole lot cheaper I might add, if you know how to mix your gauges by tension, kalium and d'addario have their tension specs on their sites so there's usually some combination of balanced tension you can get if you want to buy single strings and make a set.
This is why I love this channel. Being exposed to "new" stuff like Bartok.
The original Metal head! LOL
I gotta check out those more of those compositions.
When you were talking about the way you plucked the string to get a different sound it reminded me a bit of something Geddy Lee sometimes does. Essentially it is the same thing, only with two fingers acting together instead of just the pointer. I believe he is also playing more with the edge of his nail than the meat of his finger.
Also worth noting is that you can go back up with this technique and get something not unlike playing with a pick. It is kind of nice for getting a somewhat harsher sound for more aggressive sections.
If ever you feel like doing something like this again, might i suggest the 2nd mvmt of shostakovich's string quartet no.8.
Roy Bacatan That'd be awesome, I recently fell in love with that piece! :)
I'm a cellist in a family of other cellist, so I've kinda grown up listening to string ensembles, and your tone actually blends really well, this was so cool as really interesting to see my instrument's functin in a quartet from a different perspective! Also if you haven't already, listen to Bartok's Divertimento, especially the last movement; I'm playing it atm with my youth string ensemble and it's epic
I studied Bartok in college, but I didn't care for his music back then. I still prefer more traditionally consonant music, but you've just helped me to expand my appreciation for Bela B.
Wow that's great!! It inspires me quite a lot to look into classical music.
Also I never realized how good a distorted P-bass could sound blended with a string quartet.
Listening to this as a hungarian I didn't even realize that with just a little modification our folk music can be turned into some AAL type of metal...:D
is that the rule#2 shirt from glenn fricker? OoO
was just thinking the same was looking for a comment about it, it must be
I was thinking the same thing! Turn a negative into a joke!
I was thinking the same thing! Turn a negative into a joke!
John Entwistle referred to the "chime" as the typewriter.
Yeah this is the tone Entwistle achived during the Tommy period...using a pick! P-bass with Rotosounds through two full Hiwatt stacks cranked to max
John Entwistle used to be a clerk before becoming a professional musician, hence the typewriter attitude. He played fingerstyle and pick alternating.
Adam, I first discovered you when you released your "All the Lebanese in Louisiana" video in 2009. Nearly 7 years later, here I am loving your content still!
That metal "chime" is exactly what Geddy Lee of Rush uses in his bass attack!
My major was French Horn and tenor clef was all over the place. In fact, it was very common to have all clefs in just one sheet of music.
Truly fantastic.. you have it memorized.. what a piece.. thanks for getting it out there.. !!
you rule youtube. your videos are awesome, pro pro pro. and your topic selection and breadth and depth of knowledge really resonates with me. happy to Patreon you, young buck. keep killing it
Had to put on headphones for this. So good, and I almost never listen to classical (typically rock, jazz, metal, or electronic listener here). I don't play bass but I might learn some of Bartok's work with string quartets on guitar after hearing this.
Bass tone reminds me of John Wetton era King Crimson - excellent 👌
Nice choice of material, nice commentary, nice playing. High five.
Very musical, coming at Bartok from a completely different space like this.
Awesome ! And the dirty tone fits perfectly the string quartet.
I've also seen euphonium written in tenor clef, but that was for a concerto where it's "bass clef' euphonium. Just that a majority of it is in tenor clef.
It often uses tenor for solo pieces..
Inspiring! This is another great informational video from you, not only for bassists. Thankyou.
Fucking awesome, so glad to be introduced to this, definitely the kind of person to take inspiration from.
I really love Bartók's music, i am currently also studying "With drums and Pipes" and "Barcarolla" (1st and 2nd movement of "Out doors") as well as the first movement of his "Sonata" on the piano, and I have really a lot of fun playing these, although especially the fast octaves in the Sonata are quite difficult...
Personally i am not a great fan of 20th century string quartetts, but Bartók is an exception: dissonant, but yet melodicly creative and occasionally something you can headbang to...:)
Music for Strings percussion and celesta is just epic.
Huh. Sounds like a boss battle theme from an old JRPG. Freakin' awesome.
Mate... Wow! Really, WOW! This was sensational! 😳
This is really great. I like all the info even if i don't understand it all.