This is one of the most soapie type of case/tribunal yet and quite exciting. A retired judge as chairman. 2 Judges as witnesses, being cross examined. Judges being represented by advocates (SC's) . And a Judge President defended by a (QC). This is much more exciting soapie in its own right.. I love it.
The media told us that Hlophe went to Jhb for the purpose of influencing the judges but now new contrary information has emerged. It's gonna be interesting to see how the matter will finally be decided. I am neutral.
Judge Nkabinde is a liar.. she lied under oath.. contribute in drafting a statement that says she is not a complainant but noe she is saying she is a complainant..
I'd like one of Judge Hlophe's team to delve into her statement that she 'snapped'. This must suggest that she experienced a momentary loss of rational behaviour and whether this is becoming or not of a judge in those circumstances. Perhaps her going back on her decision not to complain about Judge Hlophe motivated by a similar loss of rationality.
Why is the video of the cross examination is stopped after the short adjournment and not continued from the cross examination; I'm referring to the adjournment around 1hr of this recording?
Judge Labuschagne i never saw him taking notes the whole hearing....i believe he is in that category of Mr Justice Curlewis, who was described by Judge Ratha Mokgoathleng as a judge who did not take notes during trial but very bright as he could grasp any or every important aspect of the case and come up with sound verdict.. 15/9/2024
All answers contained " there were many other judges" why didn't discuss the matter with them why specifically only the judges that are involved in the case. That question is not answered please help.
Judge Hlophe and the other white Judge had fruitful and respectful exchanges despite their disagreements. Then came the woman Judge in black doek: emotional, condescending, using what seems to be irritated gesticulations, and unable to handle disagreements. Overall, unprofessional.
Justice Nkabinde influenced by the collective judges. I may understand that they may have thought they have a case but since the tribunal started, they seem to have a political motif against Judge Hlophe. Its embarrassing. She was not influence, Jafta was not influenced by Hlophe, so the case is him talking to these two judges about an alleged influence. Where is the case here legal minds?
Hlophe is smart i can smel 🤣he did influence but that not the case he did a good thing Nxamalala owe2 uHlophe owe2 syanithanda bafe2 this is the war of white monopoly capital bcs anything touches Zuma should be dealt with so sinani bafe2
Pls interview judge hlophe and find out , who is he , where he was born and who sponsored him in studying law. And why did He evicted the people of KwaLanga ,In joe slovo , In winter . Is he not going to abuse his power as he has been doing when he becomes a Chief Justice mr enca.
@@msimelelo1000 She's a lawyer my brother. One of the best female lawyers. She represents people. You might see her again soon...representing Ramaphosa. It's like that
JP Hlope often comes across as defensive. He also rambles unnecessarily about issues not relvant to the question. He keeps hammering the same tired points without listening or answering precisely. Odd for a Judge who innately understands this.
You have the "unconscious bias" prejudice against Judge Hlope, and that is the reason why you've decided to confound Hlope's posture & honest anwers with unfounded theories that Hlope was evasive.
@@thamimaknyiwemhlanga8312 I just watched today. It reminded me of Mbeki when the white lawyer cried. Aish the last lady she looked bad man. Judge Hlophe is my role model. If you want to know his principle meet his son njabulo. He moered most of us at Wits. That taimer is good and I am also a follower of his jurisprudence and ura.
Im impressed with JP Hlophe....very smart Judge
Judge Hlophe is so Brilliant!
Indeed.
I think Judge Hlophe handled this extremely well
This is one of the most soapie type of case/tribunal yet and quite exciting. A retired judge as chairman. 2 Judges as witnesses, being cross examined. Judges being represented by advocates (SC's) . And a Judge President defended by a (QC). This is much more exciting soapie in its own right.. I love it.
Can't believe a phrase like "Sesithembele kunina Madoda" could create a useless tribunal and wasting our tax money
We macingwane kuliwa no Zuma la hhayi uHlophe baqale ngo advocate nomgcobo jiba
😂😂😂😂
How, do you mean
Macingwane uyayibona uba yayokuphuma phi lento yalamazwi..."Sesithembele kunina"??? 15/9/2024
Hlophe is very smart.
Please JP Hlophe his Chief Justice Position
"You cannot influence/persuade someone if you do not know their position" ...Hlophe killed it here!!! smart guy
Hlophe is eloquent
Clean baba.
I like him.
Judge Hlophe seems a seasoned guardian of the law.
Hlophe reasons in a way expected of a Judge. Onale that thaaaaaaaaang.. 😈
Hlophe is smart
The media has been feeding the public nonsense regarding this case, absolutely nonsense. I'm very upset.
I am impressed with QC. The way he handles himself and how he cross examined
I am ,also, inspired by him,QC.
what does QC stand for??
@@mjereza654 Queen's Counsel, the equivalent of our Senior Counsel for senior advocates and barristers
@@mjereza654 now He is a KC king's counsel because the British monarchy is led by a king.
I had to come back and watch this gain... Dr Hlophe is brilliant 🤞🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥
JSC is wasting Judge Hlophe's time...thy hv no case here.
JP Hlophe is consistent and a principled man...
I really love Griffiths and Hlophe but NSizwa zakithi ni lwa nabelungu 😢😢😢😢 wenzeni uzuma no Hlophe
The media told us that Hlophe went to Jhb for the purpose of influencing the judges but now new contrary information has emerged. It's gonna be interesting to see how the matter will finally be decided. I am neutral.
If I was listening on radio I would mistaken the lawyer with grey hair as an english person.
He is
From .England
Judge Jafta doesn't regard himself as a complainant and rejects the notion that Judge Hlophe hoped to influence him to favour Zuma.
"he did not improperly influence me but attempted to influence me" justice Nkabinde. What an English 🙈
Waste of state resources, money and time. They are trying to stop Hlophe from running for the big position. Chief Justice in waiting... CJ Hlophe
"I rather be a free man in grave than be a puppet" JP Hlope,now I know why
I'm sorry to say, these guys have been exposed and their lack of grey matter
Judge Nkabinde is a liar.. she lied under oath.. contribute in drafting a statement that says she is not a complainant but noe she is saying she is a complainant..
I'd like one of Judge Hlophe's team to delve into her statement that she 'snapped'. This must suggest that she experienced a momentary loss of rational behaviour and whether this is becoming or not of a judge in those circumstances. Perhaps her going back on her decision not to complain about Judge Hlophe motivated by a similar loss of rationality.
This is my Series.
Why is the video of the cross examination is stopped after the short adjournment and not continued from the cross examination; I'm referring to the adjournment around 1hr of this recording?
Judge Labuschagne i never saw him taking notes the whole hearing....i believe he is in that category of Mr Justice Curlewis, who was described by Judge Ratha Mokgoathleng as a judge who did not take notes during trial but very bright as he could grasp any or every important aspect of the case and come up with sound verdict.. 15/9/2024
Hlophe NDODA YAMADODA sinawe sokubeka emkhulekweni ongawakww2 wena syalazi udaba lakho ukuthi ulwiswa kangaka nje ngoba ulwiswela kuthi wakhuluma ge racism so ulwiselwa lokho
Who is this advocate representing Hlope? He is extremely eloquent lol
He's from the UK
www.25bedfordrow.com/site/people/profile/courtenay.griffiths
All answers contained " there were many other judges" why didn't discuss the matter with them why specifically only the judges that are involved in the case. That question is not answered please help.
Love the evidence leader! 💞
Shame black doek......
Udoti we stuff😢😢😢😢
Black excellence
Judge Hlophe and the other white Judge had fruitful and respectful exchanges despite their disagreements. Then came the woman Judge in black doek: emotional, condescending, using what seems to be irritated gesticulations, and unable to handle disagreements. Overall, unprofessional.
I agree with you about the madam she just can't handle disagreement and very much unprofessional of her
Long answers always rains questions?
JP Hlophe 👌🏼👌🏼👌👍👍👍👍
The words taken into context meant a lot....I say no more than that...15/9/2024
Justice Nkabinde influenced by the collective judges. I may understand that they may have thought they have a case but since the tribunal started, they seem to have a political motif against Judge Hlophe. Its embarrassing. She was not influence, Jafta was not influenced by Hlophe, so the case is him talking to these two judges about an alleged influence. Where is the case here legal minds?
Hlophe is smart i can smel 🤣he did influence but that not the case he did a good thing Nxamalala owe2 uHlophe owe2 syanithanda bafe2 this is the war of white monopoly capital bcs anything touches Zuma should be dealt with so sinani bafe2
Pls interview judge hlophe and find out , who is he , where he was born and who sponsored him in studying law. And why did He evicted the people of KwaLanga ,In joe slovo , In winter . Is he not going to abuse his power as he has been doing when he becomes a Chief Justice mr enca.
Ey adv tandi. U r a mover lol. High profile cases nana
Who's this black guy with grey hair who's cross examining jafta
JP Hlophe's legal representative from UK
Courteney Griffiths, QC
this lady was working for the State capture commission.... she is now here?
Which lady?
@@andrebabylid4517 have you lost your mind son. Go do your homework then bath and straight to bed.
@@silikay4392 advocate Norman
@@msimelelo1000 She's a lawyer my brother. One of the best female lawyers. She represents people. You might see her again soon...representing Ramaphosa. It's like that
Hlophe coffee CJ
Im here for the 3rd time
JP Hlope often comes across as defensive. He also rambles unnecessarily about issues not relvant to the question. He keeps hammering the same tired points without listening or answering precisely. Odd for a Judge who innately understands this.
Are we watching the same thing?
Very sick input.
You have the "unconscious bias" prejudice against Judge Hlope, and that is the reason why you've decided to confound Hlope's posture & honest anwers with unfounded theories that Hlope was evasive.
This is problametic, surely we are not watching the same video here. Where is this coming from. Please provide reference to your observation.
@@thamimaknyiwemhlanga8312 I just watched today. It reminded me of Mbeki when the white lawyer cried. Aish the last lady she looked bad man. Judge Hlophe is my role model. If you want to know his principle meet his son njabulo. He moered most of us at Wits. That taimer is good and I am also a follower of his jurisprudence and ura.