This was probably the hot take i struggled the most with and the one I personally dislike the most, but i think I need to move on before I just ditch it like the kuku and tlaloc hot take.
Are those hot takes still coming out? As a NA player i would like to know if i really want to save for them. (And yes i looked that their kits so I'm not ignorant about them). I just want the opinion of the people using them
She's a really hard servant to rank. I personally think her cooldowns, anemic out-of-niche damage mods, and a few other small problems hold her back from a lot of general use cases, but she can definitely get better with a buff or two.
I hate it when Arts cooldowns are balanced around Tamamo's NP cooldown reduction. They probably figure that Joan's skill 3 synergizes way too well with Tamamo so they nerfed it.
Still a very cute unit to me. I find with arts they got so many resources and power houses that it's hard for many to stand out especially after space Ishtar summer ibuki and the other aoe units for loopers and castoria for support where her role is very good and f2p units can still keep up with content to help out. It's always good to be critical of even the more favorable units in game as a lot of people don't know how to debate by bringing up the negatives themselves to have a fully looked at unit and review as those videos are ones that are better researched and honestly better to the character kits than those who never mention any negatives
Its a shame Johanna ended the way she did, since if she had a purely support NP or even St, she wouldnt need to be compated to the likes of Moriarty or Iyo Also,, she is like a hardcore Hajime chan support, so maybe I will pull for her in 2025 Thanks for the video Plushie
That's on the NA FGO community and their constant need to unnecessarily compare stuff. 4 out of the last 5 supports have had AoE damage NPs, but this is the one suddenly everyone complained about being "not a pure support." The logic doesn't track.
@@Cav829 because other aoe servants are different. infact, for tezcatlipoca aoe np fits perfectly for his kit. Also his np damage is actually quite good and become very high as you his np every turn or by overcharging his np. About support, which one has aoe damge np? proto merlin actually has supporting np instead. i think you mean summer skadi servant but she actually benefits from her damaging np actually.
@@HerMi.T I said the last 5 supports. Tezcat is not a support. Koyan, Oberon, Proto, R. Skadi, and Joan are the last 5 supports, and all but Merlin have an AoE damage NP. As for who of all of that has the most useful, it is probably R. Skadi, but they all have their drawbacks. R. Skadi can just barely pull off an MLB BG loop, but it requires Bride. Joan honestly does pretty well for this group with two very wide niches and the cleanest BG looping experience, although lower NP1 damage if not hitting niches. There are tradeoffs for all four as they are not meant to be optimal loopers since they're already great supports. And to be fair, all four fair much better as multicore farmers than your primary DPS. Further, if they gave Joan an effects NP and turned her into a pure CQ support, she'd run into the same issue Miss Crane had where people skipped her as they don't see CQ exclusive supports as having enough value. To this day it's the thing everyone complains about Miss Crane. I fully believe giving her a damage NP was a reaction to Miss Crane as she's the first CQ/crit SSR support since her.
@@Cav829 you missed one important thing. Oberon and Koyan are game changing servants that are extremely valuable for buster meta. ruler Skadi is upgrade of normal Skadi (quick goddess and saviour) that allows you to use triple Skadi setup. they are irreplaceable in what they do and have insane skills, so their nonexistent np doesn't matter, while Joan is nice, but not necessary in general and support np would give her more value. by the way I have a theory that all this new buster/quick meta supports have aoe damage np because devs wanted to nerf their potential. after they released absolutely imbalanced garbage (cashtoria) with cracked skills and even more broken np they decided to simply give useless np for every other support.
@@Cav829 main issue i find with her is that, her arts crit is not that amazing, compared to units like skadi or Vitch because her other steroids are so low that even the 100% crit up isn't as cracked up as you think. Even if summer skadi and Vitch np are mostly useless, their skills itself is enough for the dps to hit like a truck. That arts crit buff would have made Protomerlin a lot better and would have helped arts a lot better, since she has a 50% arts buff. But it's on Johanna who has otherwise substandard steroids and long cooldowns. She is good, but she ain't bringing arts crit meta. If she had a support np or even if she had a np that also gives damage buffs to the team, she would be in a much better place.
I agree with the ridiculous CD. Personally, i think she is a really good art support, but her skillset CD really drag her down. If they want to give her 3rd skill 8 turn CD, atleast they should extend the skill's effect for 5 turn so it can be much worth it
She provides arts with the one thing it didn't had nor really needed, Consistant High Crit damage on arts cards, the arts servants literally have a support every single form of offense you like and all of them have the added bonus of help the party defensively in some way
Welp, we shall engage in shenanigans and do the exact same for Quick and Buster somehow Buster needs a stall option (not named Merlin) and Quick needs a 90+/sustain support. Takes notes Lazengan
@@user-tb4zj8sp1k except you still need arts card on third wave for you to do those "big crit numbers." Plus buster has the advantage of having a 50% damage up to the chain when you lead with it, something which arts doesn't have. So when you buster np, the following cards also hit harder. Also, her arts crits hurt way less than Quick or Buster's because her other steroids are pretty low. Anyway, her damage is pretty bad for a omnifarmer. If you are minturning, it is awkward to bring her just for crit, since you still need Oberon for minturning 90++ nodes.
@@lookingforlove839 Mate, what are you even on about? No shit Buster does better than arts, that's literally what I said. And why do you even bring up the argument that Pope has bad damage? Of course she does, she's a support duh. I'm talking about her support capability, she helps arts team min turn bosses better because now, their crits suck less.
The virgin "3/10" gamepress review vs the chad "She is good but not necessary" hot take. Jokes aside, this is my first servant since Ibuki that I really, really, really like both personality and gameplay wise. I hope I'll be able to pull her in 2025. Good review as always Plushie.
@@PlushieMistress That's just Rabbit's take, who is just 1 out of like 6 or 7 reviewers on gamepress, and his takes are usually not that great unless it's about hyped up servants that everyone knows are good.
@@PlushieMistress basically took your total disregard for her value route of your 3 routes (fate style). The supportive value that is not needed (depending on playstyle), long cd that is tough for both stalling and solo, low damage for farming, highlighted the same negative aspects as you did without really giving her any of the positives by essentially attributing them to unnecessary.
@@PlushieMistress Rabbit waited so long for Plushie's "hot take" that he had to come out with his hot take. But for real 3/10 to me is a servant you would only level up for free quartz and never use except for maybe towers. She's a 8/10 kind of servant for me. Might not be that useful for many players but if you do use her, she's a pretty good support and can be that wave 1 clear for some multi core setup.
At the very least she does bring something unique with her Arts Crit utility. Moriarty also loses to Iyo in damage, but Joan does have her niches to bridge the gap a little when it comes to her being a DPS. Overall I think she’s all right. A decent addition to the roster. Great video Plushie❤️
Her kit came too late into the game, especially for the Arts meta. If she had been Quick I bet she would have more interesting applications. I think the mindset to have here is that she is a solid option. I don’t see many people use her after the event unfortunately
i actually see some synergy with both tezcatlipoca and pope joan along with st servant. Although, i don't know how good that team is. Probably double tezca along with koyan or oberon in omnifarming is better than that option.
Honestly I like Joan's more for people who want her or want to fine tune their farming. I'm definitely in the minority fine with the arts aoe np because I disagree with everyone saying she'll be more talked about if she had a support np. Then she'll just be compared to Castoria like other full arts support had been. People will just find a way to complain eiher way.
One interesting point of comparison with Joan's kit for me is that her 20% Arts bonus and 100% Arts crit up gives the exact same total damage bonus for Arts crits as OG Skadi's 50% Quick and 100% Quick crit up for Quick crits, since Quick is a weaker card than Arts. However, she needs two skills to get there whereas Skadi just needs one. And Skadi's total max card damage is superior if you incorporate her defense down and Joan's attack up, with the caveat that attack up is generally superior to defense down in most cases. I think Skadi is better overall because she gasses up Quick NPs way more with her skills than Joan, but it still seems like the devs were trying to achieve parity with OG Skadi's Quick card damage buffs specifically. Still, if that's what they were going for, I feel like they should have leaned into it by trying to support arts crits as much as possible rather than making her kit a weird mishmash of different skills and a damaging NP. There is basically no reason to keep her on the field because of her long cooldowns, yet her first skill requires her to stick around if you want the stars she provides. Not to mention that Ruler Skadi does the exact same thing as Joan but better for Buster card crits, and her NP hits harder if she goes full DPS. Pope Joan is in this weird middle ground that just doesn't make sense for most developed boxes to invest in most of the time, though on paper each of her skills are pretty great, save for the cooldowns.
I mean, we don't NEED any particularly new unit. Any role you could want has a unit who is sufficient. We are at the point of the game where, unless they start doing some obscene powercreep, any new unit is just 'I like this unit and want them' and not 'this unit is so broken that they are absolutely necessary to grab'
Support who gives Arts crit? Who cares.. The main point in arts is easily looping the NP.. So who cares about crit 😏 If there's an arts support other than tamamo can give Arts up + NP dmg buff thats what i need...
How good do you think she may work with Vlad, because he decided to come to my Chaldea... A lot, like 5 copies from Dec 2021 to Dec 2022, so I want to make good use of him. Scathach and now Vlad are the reason I want to get Miss Crane.
@@PlushieMistress Now that we are on topic... Since he is NP5 I can take him to LV 120, thing is I haven't found anyone who has done this. What do you think about a LV 120 Vlad NP5? Worth it? Thruth is I like my Kintoki better but he ignored my second try to get more copies.
@@ALUCARDAN2 i mean 120 is a huge commitment so i would only recommend servants you actually like. As for gameplay vlad is already solid to begin with i cant see a 120 vlad being anything less than impressive
@@PlushieMistress Thanks, I think I will leave it for now, I am 20 coins from taking Scathach to 120 and as you said 120 is quite the commitment. Also, great content though I went ham for Koyanskaya of Dark after watching you only for you to release the hot takes video and saw how little damage she does, then comes Kukulkán with a chair to the head, haha love that irony. Still love my Koyanskayas so will have to get more copies. Cheers
I may be late watching this video, but at least I can tell you that Johanna's a good Lady Avalon Substitute. Sure she doesn't have an AoE Invulnerability and 50% Arts Up, but her skills are good enough if you're focused on supporting your Arts DPS against Challenge Quests and Tough Boss Fights. -That and 3T Bullying Kiara-
She would have been soo so much better if her 3rd skill had the same effects as Ganesha with the stars/turns for ALL allies And a star bombs in the first skill, even a little one like 15 stars... She just really mid as a support ( her 2nd skill is nice i must say ) and not even that strong as a dps even when she hits her niche A luxury unit i must say
@@HerMi.T She is mid. Having a crit based skill, without the star bomb is weird. Her cooldowns are waay to long. And her charisma is at best basic. The np gauge per turn is useful only for multicore farming OR TA where you actually need to np T2 or T3 with one of your support ( castoria/reines/waver for ex ). You don't need it if you arts crit with your dps in the first place She has way too much competition ( castoria/purin/tamamo/Reines/Crane) in a game where we're limited only to 6 units on field. Hence why she's mid. I would even say, if your dps has already a good stars weight, an hypercarry gogh setup outclass her easily.
@@expendablea the difference between her's and the other great card based crits is that, koyanskaya and skadi also comes with a 50% mana burst and other strong damage buffs. All Johanna has is a 20% arts up and 20% attack up on a ridiculous cooldown. Even if the 100% looks good on paper, i find the crits to be underwhelming on just her support.
@@PlushieMistress She is definitely better, but, not enough, the word mid fits her perfectly, and I seriously don't understand the cooldown of her third skill
A bit awkward, but for people who don't want to run meta supports and do the same boring min turn farming, she provides a good alternative. She is a weird one to place, but i do find her more useful for boss fights than farming
This was probably the hot take i struggled the most with and the one I personally dislike the most, but i think I need to move on before I just ditch it like the kuku and tlaloc hot take.
Are those hot takes still coming out? As a NA player i would like to know if i really want to save for them. (And yes i looked that their kits so I'm not ignorant about them). I just want the opinion of the people using them
@@IcePhenex576 at a later date yes
She's a really hard servant to rank. I personally think her cooldowns, anemic out-of-niche damage mods, and a few other small problems hold her back from a lot of general use cases, but she can definitely get better with a buff or two.
that meme with the fat guy getting load of water and the skinny poor guy getting no water
fat guy is arts supports, skinny guy is quick supports
When we asked for a 5* Mata Hari, this isn't what we meant.
Lanling also has damage cut in his np though. btw waver, reines and chen gong also have damage cut.
I hate it when Arts cooldowns are balanced around Tamamo's NP cooldown reduction. They probably figure that Joan's skill 3 synergizes way too well with Tamamo so they nerfed it.
Still a very cute unit to me.
I find with arts they got so many resources and power houses that it's hard for many to stand out especially after space Ishtar summer ibuki and the other aoe units for loopers and castoria for support where her role is very good and f2p units can still keep up with content to help out.
It's always good to be critical of even the more favorable units in game as a lot of people don't know how to debate by bringing up the negatives themselves to have a fully looked at unit and review as those videos are ones that are better researched and honestly better to the character kits than those who never mention any negatives
Never forget one thing she can do, wake you up in the morning with her Noble phantasm
*SSR single target np waiting room*
Its a shame Johanna ended the way she did, since if she had a purely support NP or even St, she wouldnt need to be compated to the likes of Moriarty or Iyo
Also,, she is like a hardcore Hajime chan support, so maybe I will pull for her in 2025
Thanks for the video Plushie
That's on the NA FGO community and their constant need to unnecessarily compare stuff. 4 out of the last 5 supports have had AoE damage NPs, but this is the one suddenly everyone complained about being "not a pure support." The logic doesn't track.
@@Cav829 because other aoe servants are different. infact, for tezcatlipoca aoe np fits perfectly for his kit.
Also his np damage is actually quite good and become very high as you his np every turn or by overcharging his np.
About support, which one has aoe damge np? proto merlin actually has supporting np instead.
i think you mean summer skadi servant but she actually benefits from her damaging np actually.
@@HerMi.T I said the last 5 supports. Tezcat is not a support. Koyan, Oberon, Proto, R. Skadi, and Joan are the last 5 supports, and all but Merlin have an AoE damage NP. As for who of all of that has the most useful, it is probably R. Skadi, but they all have their drawbacks. R. Skadi can just barely pull off an MLB BG loop, but it requires Bride. Joan honestly does pretty well for this group with two very wide niches and the cleanest BG looping experience, although lower NP1 damage if not hitting niches. There are tradeoffs for all four as they are not meant to be optimal loopers since they're already great supports. And to be fair, all four fair much better as multicore farmers than your primary DPS.
Further, if they gave Joan an effects NP and turned her into a pure CQ support, she'd run into the same issue Miss Crane had where people skipped her as they don't see CQ exclusive supports as having enough value. To this day it's the thing everyone complains about Miss Crane. I fully believe giving her a damage NP was a reaction to Miss Crane as she's the first CQ/crit SSR support since her.
@@Cav829 you missed one important thing. Oberon and Koyan are game changing servants that are extremely valuable for buster meta. ruler Skadi is upgrade of normal Skadi (quick goddess and saviour) that allows you to use triple Skadi setup. they are irreplaceable in what they do and have insane skills, so their nonexistent np doesn't matter, while Joan is nice, but not necessary in general and support np would give her more value.
by the way I have a theory that all this new buster/quick meta supports have aoe damage np because devs wanted to nerf their potential. after they released absolutely imbalanced garbage (cashtoria) with cracked skills and even more broken np they decided to simply give useless np for every other support.
@@Cav829 main issue i find with her is that, her arts crit is not that amazing, compared to units like skadi or Vitch because her other steroids are so low that even the 100% crit up isn't as cracked up as you think. Even if summer skadi and Vitch np are mostly useless, their skills itself is enough for the dps to hit like a truck. That arts crit buff would have made Protomerlin a lot better and would have helped arts a lot better, since she has a 50% arts buff. But it's on Johanna who has otherwise substandard steroids and long cooldowns. She is good, but she ain't bringing arts crit meta. If she had a support np or even if she had a np that also gives damage buffs to the team, she would be in a much better place.
I agree with the ridiculous CD. Personally, i think she is a really good art support, but her skillset CD really drag her down. If they want to give her 3rd skill 8 turn CD, atleast they should extend the skill's effect for 5 turn so it can be much worth it
Jaguar warrior crying in 10 turn
I think they made it 8 because tomamo is a thing and they don't want people spaming the skills like castoria
She provides arts with the one thing it didn't had nor really needed, Consistant High Crit damage on arts cards, the arts servants literally have a support every single form of offense you like and all of them have the added bonus of help the party defensively in some way
Welp, we shall engage in shenanigans and do the exact same for Quick and Buster somehow
Buster needs a stall option (not named Merlin) and Quick needs a 90+/sustain support. Takes notes Lazengan
Wdym? Arts literally can't min turn bosses as well as buster and quick because it has shit face card damage.
@@user-tb4zj8sp1k except you still need arts card on third wave for you to do those "big crit numbers." Plus buster has the advantage of having a 50% damage up to the chain when you lead with it, something which arts doesn't have. So when you buster np, the following cards also hit harder. Also, her arts crits hurt way less than Quick or Buster's because her other steroids are pretty low. Anyway, her damage is pretty bad for a omnifarmer. If you are minturning, it is awkward to bring her just for crit, since you still need Oberon for minturning 90++ nodes.
@@lookingforlove839 Mate, what are you even on about? No shit Buster does better than arts, that's literally what I said. And why do you even bring up the argument that Pope has bad damage? Of course she does, she's a support duh. I'm talking about her support capability, she helps arts team min turn bosses better because now, their crits suck less.
@@lookingforlove839 And I'm talking about challenge quests, not 90++
The virgin "3/10" gamepress review vs the chad "She is good but not necessary" hot take.
Jokes aside, this is my first servant since Ibuki that I really, really, really like both personality and gameplay wise. I hope I'll be able to pull her in 2025.
Good review as always Plushie.
gamepress rlly gave her 3/10 ? They are high
@@PlushieMistress That's just Rabbit's take, who is just 1 out of like 6 or 7 reviewers on gamepress, and his takes are usually not that great unless it's about hyped up servants that everyone knows are good.
@@PlushieMistress basically took your total disregard for her value route of your 3 routes (fate style). The supportive value that is not needed (depending on playstyle), long cd that is tough for both stalling and solo, low damage for farming, highlighted the same negative aspects as you did without really giving her any of the positives by essentially attributing them to unnecessary.
@@zs190 fair enough ig but from their rating history 3/10 is really low, its like seeing a 3/10 from ign lmao
@@PlushieMistress Rabbit waited so long for Plushie's "hot take" that he had to come out with his hot take. But for real 3/10 to me is a servant you would only level up for free quartz and never use except for maybe towers. She's a 8/10 kind of servant for me. Might not be that useful for many players but if you do use her, she's a pretty good support and can be that wave 1 clear for some multi core setup.
You can't have enough of Arts supports
At the very least she does bring something unique with her Arts Crit utility. Moriarty also loses to Iyo in damage, but Joan does have her niches to bridge the gap a little when it comes to her being a DPS. Overall I think she’s all right. A decent addition to the roster.
Great video Plushie❤️
Her kit came too late into the game, especially for the Arts meta. If she had been Quick I bet she would have more interesting applications.
I think the mindset to have here is that she is a solid option. I don’t see many people use her after the event unfortunately
too much Art support already,, they should give her better role
I would use her, but I don't care for her hairstyle. If she gets an outfit without the hair loops, I'd use her.
She is very good support thats we don't need but too expensive as a DPS to build
I for one am happy with more supports like her and Miss Crane that are not requisite rolls, but are still very good and make the game more fun.
i actually see some synergy with both tezcatlipoca and pope joan along with st servant. Although, i don't know how good that team is. Probably double tezca along with koyan or oberon in omnifarming is better than that option.
Honestly I like Joan's more for people who want her or want to fine tune their farming. I'm definitely in the minority fine with the arts aoe np because I disagree with everyone saying she'll be more talked about if she had a support np. Then she'll just be compared to Castoria like other full arts support had been. People will just find a way to complain eiher way.
One interesting point of comparison with Joan's kit for me is that her 20% Arts bonus and 100% Arts crit up gives the exact same total damage bonus for Arts crits as OG Skadi's 50% Quick and 100% Quick crit up for Quick crits, since Quick is a weaker card than Arts. However, she needs two skills to get there whereas Skadi just needs one. And Skadi's total max card damage is superior if you incorporate her defense down and Joan's attack up, with the caveat that attack up is generally superior to defense down in most cases. I think Skadi is better overall because she gasses up Quick NPs way more with her skills than Joan, but it still seems like the devs were trying to achieve parity with OG Skadi's Quick card damage buffs specifically. Still, if that's what they were going for, I feel like they should have leaned into it by trying to support arts crits as much as possible rather than making her kit a weird mishmash of different skills and a damaging NP. There is basically no reason to keep her on the field because of her long cooldowns, yet her first skill requires her to stick around if you want the stars she provides. Not to mention that Ruler Skadi does the exact same thing as Joan but better for Buster card crits, and her NP hits harder if she goes full DPS. Pope Joan is in this weird middle ground that just doesn't make sense for most developed boxes to invest in most of the time, though on paper each of her skills are pretty great, save for the cooldowns.
I mean, we don't NEED any particularly new unit. Any role you could want has a unit who is sufficient. We are at the point of the game where, unless they start doing some obscene powercreep, any new unit is just 'I like this unit and want them' and not 'this unit is so broken that they are absolutely necessary to grab'
If ur willing to make the sacrifice (eg using macros to farm) u can skip turn 1 to let her s3 fully activate
Support who gives Arts crit? Who cares.. The main point in arts is easily looping the NP.. So who cares about crit 😏
If there's an arts support other than tamamo can give Arts up + NP dmg buff thats what i need...
There are "too few" arts supports in the game. The game needs more arts supports!
Would have been better is she had an actual support np
Please not everyone has to be lopping SSR devs
So, did we ever get an answer as to why she is now summonable during the event or is it just chalked up to Chaldea's system being the way it is?
Damage cut for 3 turns is literally on Gong, reines and waver fyi, tho the value may not match up
"the best we dont need" * _buffering_
But welcome'd one
- Ankoman, probably
How good do you think she may work with Vlad, because he decided to come to my Chaldea... A lot, like 5 copies from Dec 2021 to Dec 2022, so I want to make good use of him.
Scathach and now Vlad are the reason I want to get Miss Crane.
He works well without her, she def help but not necessary
@@PlushieMistress Now that we are on topic... Since he is NP5 I can take him to LV 120, thing is I haven't found anyone who has done this.
What do you think about a LV 120 Vlad NP5? Worth it? Thruth is I like my Kintoki better but he ignored my second try to get more copies.
@@ALUCARDAN2 i mean 120 is a huge commitment so i would only recommend servants you actually like. As for gameplay vlad is already solid to begin with i cant see a 120 vlad being anything less than impressive
@@PlushieMistress Thanks, I think I will leave it for now, I am 20 coins from taking Scathach to 120 and as you said 120 is quite the commitment. Also, great content though I went ham for Koyanskaya of Dark after watching you only for you to release the hot takes video and saw how little damage she does, then comes Kukulkán with a chair to the head, haha love that irony.
Still love my Koyanskayas so will have to get more copies.
Cheers
How would she be for supporting kuro?
I may be late watching this video, but at least I can tell you that Johanna's a good Lady Avalon Substitute.
Sure she doesn't have an AoE Invulnerability and 50% Arts Up, but her skills are good enough if you're focused on supporting your Arts DPS against Challenge Quests and Tough Boss Fights.
-That and 3T Bullying Kiara-
She would have been soo so much better if her 3rd skill had the same effects as Ganesha with the stars/turns for ALL allies
And a star bombs in the first skill, even a little one like 15 stars...
She just really mid as a support ( her 2nd skill is nice i must say ) and not even that strong as a dps even when she hits her niche
A luxury unit i must say
mid is too much when she shines as crit support more.
@@HerMi.T She is mid. Having a crit based skill, without the star bomb is weird.
Her cooldowns are waay to long.
And her charisma is at best basic.
The np gauge per turn is useful only for multicore farming OR TA where you actually need to np T2 or T3 with one of your support ( castoria/reines/waver for ex ). You don't need it if you arts crit with your dps in the first place
She has way too much competition ( castoria/purin/tamamo/Reines/Crane) in a game where we're limited only to 6 units on field. Hence why she's mid.
I would even say, if your dps has already a good stars weight, an hypercarry gogh setup outclass her easily.
@@expendablea the difference between her's and the other great card based crits is that, koyanskaya and skadi also comes with a 50% mana burst and other strong damage buffs. All Johanna has is a 20% arts up and 20% attack up on a ridiculous cooldown. Even if the 100% looks good on paper, i find the crits to be underwhelming on just her support.
Where kukulkan hot take?
me tbh
I pretty much NTRed Constantine because I use her as a crit support for my Vlad zerk, it works out pretty well
She is like lan ling, but we already have lan ling... So I dont really know why she exists
she is a lot better than lanling for arts crit support
@@PlushieMistress She is definitely better, but, not enough, the word mid fits her perfectly, and I seriously don't understand the cooldown of her third skill
@@TheTur3 Her third skill reminds me of Edison. Except his effects last for 5 turns for a reduced battery per turn and 5 turn np damage up
If her np was a supportive np she will be a lot better in my opinon but well I guess she's an easy skip
She is mid in my opinion
A bit awkward, but for people who don't want to run meta supports and do the same boring min turn farming, she provides a good alternative. She is a weird one to place, but i do find her more useful for boss fights than farming