I wonder how the ippons between 3:20 and 3:40 still get awarded. This behavior seems very weird and not martial to me. Isn't turning around to see shinpans' reactions considered a total lack of basic zanshin ?
Couldn't/shouldn't you continue your action with correct zanshin instead ? You can hear the shinpans stopping the match. Zanshin is supposed to be an element of a good ippon, right ? So why this kind of behaviour is allowed ? It's disrespectful towards the opponent, the shinpans (it's like they're just there to confirm the kenshi's feeling) and kendo as a budo.
@@MrBushiru I agree with your opinion. But the point I'm talking about is that the bad reaction may come out in a tough SHIAI, especially if the results are important.
@@swkendo I get you. I just don't get why we have to practice a certain way during keiko but this kind of things is tolerated in shiai, as this is a very important part for some young kenshis. In other words, I don't understand such a disparity between shiai and gradings in terms of necessary elements : why do kenshis have to pass a grade to do 'good kendo' ? Shouldn't an 'ippon' be just one thing, despite of the context ?
Shiro it's called bad teachings leading to things that are irrelevant in reality. Shiai is the closest to reality in this sport as swords are not used in combat
Very nice. But my question is why can’t they do this honest clean good Kendo against Japan? Why do they have to get dirty and sneaky every time? To win dirty just to win? Being a respected champion starts with good spirit. I hope they will get it soon. Then they will be a real contender.
kentagk9 What is clean good kendo? It is just difference of kendo style and Team Japan did same thing in shiai. Moreover, it was final round of WKC. All players, representative of their country, can’t help struggling to win shiai.
You do not see the changes in Korean kenshi's (player's) styles when they are against a Japanese kenshi and those from other countries (or against whom they think they can win)? Pay a special attention to tsubazeriai and when the opponent hit them. They are aggressive but are respectful and want to be respected. I can see that they know what is important to become a respected kenshi. But then when against a Japanese kenshi, they throw away everything and become violent... Kendo is all about respect and life-long self-descipline. Do you know Anton Geesink, a legendary Judo player who won a gold medal in Tokyo Olympic 1964? He represented Judo's spirit, similar to Kendo's, so much that he stopped his team-mates trying to run into the Judo court when he won the final. The link below shows the symbolic scene. It was when even foreign Judo players knew what Judo is all about. Now Judo has turned into just another sport. I hope Kendo does not follow such a downward path and wish strong countries such as South Korea and USA will help us keep Kendo as Kendo, keep it from becoming a mere bamboo fencing. I hope the above clarify what I meant, if not now, probably later in your life. image.middle-edge.jp/medium/59750732-b3f9-49cd-b66b-0cfc63c970b4.gif?1494991097
kentagk9 a sport can still be played with respect. And holding onto archaic values that limit kendo from changing will be the end for the martial art completely.
![17WKC JAPAN Team Ippons [一本集]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dGs6BJGuRn0/mqdefault.jpg)
I think Korean's kendo became beautiful more than ever.
それな
that's right
1:16 ここの残心かっこよい
日本との試合以外は韓国の剣道普通に正々堂々してるよね。日本との試合になると突然鍔迫り合いで離れさせてくれなくなる。普通に試合しても今の韓国なら10回に3回くらいは日本に勝てるやろ。日本とも普通に試合してくれよ。
@@Jjptwmajj2587 日本は審判の誤審に何度か助けられてるよ。あと、韓国は毎回日本戦だけはちゃんと構え合うんじゃなくて、鍔迫りばかりの泥臭い剣道してくる。そういうスタイルなら警察(もはやプロ)で剣道やってる日本に分がある。韓国剣道はあくまでアマチュアだからね。
@@Jjptwmajj2587 いい加減諦めろよってな。
@@Jjptwmajj2587
審判のおかげでもあるけどな
1:24
정말 빠르네요~진정한 우승자~!!
You should also put the highlights of the ippons taken by Korea and Japan... great work though, thanks a lot !
Jérémie Dupuis there's plenty of that on RUclips already.
편집 좋네요 ㅎㅎ
普通に剣道きれいだなーすごい⤴️⤴️
韓国の選手権とか見てみたい🎵
あと編集済みってださいよね
3:14 찌름 들어가기 힘든기술인데 잘 넣었네
진짜 일본을 제외하면 한국팀이 가장 독보적이다.. 일본 많이 따라오기도 했구..
日本との試合ん時はなんでこんな剣道をしてくれないのかな？
強い
결승에서 부심은 왜 주심을보고 기를드냐 선수보고 기를들어야지
鍔迫り合いの離れ際から前に打つのって1本になるの？
高校生だとしっかり間合いを切らないと反則になりますが、中学生や大学生、大人は基本的には反則にならないです。
Some of these were really questionable.
where ipons vs team Russia?
Diego Campuzo you go make one
いやいや韓国普通に強いやん
도대체 퇴격머리를 어떻게치는거지...?
当たってないのが多い。
I wonder how the ippons between 3:20 and 3:40 still get awarded. This behavior seems very weird and not martial to me. Isn't turning around to see shinpans' reactions considered a total lack of basic zanshin ?
As you say, the behavior is not good. However, it is understood that it is a natural behavior to confirm his IPPON during a fierce competition.
Couldn't/shouldn't you continue your action with correct zanshin instead ? You can hear the shinpans stopping the match.
Zanshin is supposed to be an element of a good ippon, right ?
So why this kind of behaviour is allowed ? It's disrespectful towards the opponent, the shinpans (it's like they're just there to confirm the kenshi's feeling) and kendo as a budo.
@@MrBushiru I agree with your opinion.
But the point I'm talking about is that the bad reaction may come out in a tough SHIAI, especially if the results are important.
@@swkendo I get you. I just don't get why we have to practice a certain way during keiko but this kind of things is tolerated in shiai, as this is a very important part for some young kenshis. In other words, I don't understand such a disparity between shiai and gradings in terms of necessary elements : why do kenshis have to pass a grade to do 'good kendo' ? Shouldn't an 'ippon' be just one thing, despite of the context ?
Shiro it's called bad teachings leading to things that are irrelevant in reality. Shiai is the closest to reality in this sport as swords are not used in combat
Very nice. But my question is why can’t they do this honest clean good Kendo against Japan? Why do they have to get dirty and sneaky every time? To win dirty just to win? Being a respected champion starts with good spirit. I hope they will get it soon. Then they will be a real contender.
kentagk9 What is clean good kendo? It is just difference of kendo style and Team Japan did same thing in shiai. Moreover, it was final round of WKC. All players, representative of their country, can’t help struggling to win shiai.
Watch the taisho match very carefully lol
I think ando was more sneaky and dirty than jo
You do not see the changes in Korean kenshi's (player's) styles when they are against a Japanese kenshi and those from other countries (or against whom they think they can win)? Pay a special attention to tsubazeriai and when the opponent hit them. They are aggressive but are respectful and want to be respected. I can see that they know what is important to become a respected kenshi. But then when against a Japanese kenshi, they throw away everything and become violent... Kendo is all about respect and life-long self-descipline.
Do you know Anton Geesink, a legendary Judo player who won a gold medal in Tokyo Olympic 1964? He represented Judo's spirit, similar to Kendo's, so much that he stopped his team-mates trying to run into the Judo court when he won the final. The link below shows the symbolic scene. It was when even foreign Judo players knew what Judo is all about. Now Judo has turned into just another sport. I hope Kendo does not follow such a downward path and wish strong countries such as South Korea and USA will help us keep Kendo as Kendo, keep it from becoming a mere bamboo fencing. I hope the above clarify what I meant, if not now, probably later in your life.
image.middle-edge.jp/medium/59750732-b3f9-49cd-b66b-0cfc63c970b4.gif?1494991097
kentagk9 a sport can still be played with respect. And holding onto archaic values that limit kendo from changing will be the end for the martial art completely.
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そもそも「日本相手だから」なのか「決勝だから」なのかも明確にはわからないことだろうと思います。なにせ大抵決勝戦では日本と韓国とアメリカのどれかの決戦になるので…。
先鋒の面当たってなくね？笑
ruclips.net/video/VncXh_BMSN0/видео.html
ビデオエンコード中フレームドロップが少しありました。
ガッツリ当たってると思います
やればできるじゃんコリア。
なんでVS日本のときはあんな意地汚いんだ？