Level Up Your Skills with Video Games! - Mythbusters - S09 EP10 - Science Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Join Adam and Jamie as they tackle unfinished business from their previous episodes, exploring whether video games can truly enhance real-world skills. From swinging golf clubs to holding onto grenades, witness the MythBusters delve into the realm of virtual training and its impact on practical abilities.
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Gaming taught me English and thanks to that I can watch shows like Mythbusters. :D
Same here bro!
same hahah
It got me interested in learning English as well.
Same
"Eliminate all hostiles" was one of the first phrases I learned :p
Same
Video games helped me when it came to getting my HGV licence. I learnt how to reverse on Euro Truck Simulator2 and putting it into practice when training for my real life licence really helped
I'm a pilot, video games can 100% help with real-world skills, probably not if it's GTA, but Microsoft flight sim, especially vatsim can and will help you if you take it seriously
Gta give you a lot of insights on business and management :)
Well the real pilots are trained in simulations that are very similar to videogames.
Games are typically more focused on entertainment than ironing out specific skills - yes - but some of them can be used for training - just possibly a little less convenient one. Some even include tutorials.
Of course you do need actual training on things like how to start a plane safely, and how to talk to dispatch etc but games can be useful for the actual flying part of it.
@@jwhite5008 actual sims are much more useful than you on your home computer, but you do need to pay for them, and typically also the time of the instructor. Microsoft flight sim will help you with your flows, and to keep practicing procedures, like lost procedures, entering the circuit, forced or precautionary landings, and all the ifr shenanigans it can not replace time in the cockpit, or time in a certified simulator, but as a supplement it is definitely worth your time
Well that's the thing, where's the line between sim and video game.
The tool they used in the beginning also has a version where it projects a virtual golf course, but does that cross the line as a tool Adam would use in his "real" training or is it still a videogame
I took a flying lesson and 10 minutes in the instructor guessed that I had sim experience
I still can't wrap my head around the fact this was made +10 years ago. Can you imagine what they could do with modern technology? Drones, 3D printers, 4K slow motion cameras and other recording gizmos?
I know its sadness..
Do you have any idea how long flight sims have been used to train pilots? Depending on your deffiniton - somewhere between 1929 and 1934!
Yeah, it also makes you really appreciate some of the great camera work in a lot of the episodes as they where still lugging around pretty big set ups.
They used a drone in the golf course shots.
Damn that's cool to think about. Makes me wonder what they could do with 3D imagery scanning like making a clay prototype and bringing it to life
I love Adam's golfing clothes. This brought a smile to my face this morning. I can't golf to save my life.
Jimmy Broadbent. He is a youtube SimRacer. He has now raced professionally for 2 different teams and over a dozen races. Some of which he has won and appeared on a podium.
His entire racing experience before Praga was exclusively online.
His entire racing experience, yes; but, I presume he'd driven a car before. I think the main thing is that virtual experiences for almost all sports have improved dramatically since this was made. I'm guessing that by now there's probably a golf app or game that actually makes a difference. It would be interesting to see this one tested (see what I did there, Adam Savage fans) again.
There's also a first person shooter gamer who was tested with real guns, he'd never held or fired a real gun before ;but his skill carried over from the video game. The video is on RUclips ;but I can't remember who the guy was or the video name.
I was looking for this comment. Another terrible conclusion by the mythbusters.
The recent movie Gran Turismo is purely based off the facts that gamers who raced on Gran Turismo went on to race in real life and to be successful.
2021 Drift Masters Virtual Championship champion Rhys Tatterson went from sim drifting into a real 900hp nissan and aced it!
Proffessional rally drivers such as Petter and Oliver Solberg (father and Son) both winners of WRC uses rally simulator games to learn a specific stage and be faster around corners before they go to the real competition
3:04 - this is actually hilarious, well done who ever came up with the idea to film the ball in the air like this :D
I'm a security officer. Applying what I know to video games make me better at those games, and in turn practicing my skills in games improves them in real life.
I suppose the Hitman games could be used as a good security guards 'what not to do' training aid lol!
@@Legion563 they actually do help! The venn diagram of skillsets of criminals and security officers overlaps like a stack of pancakes. In Hitman games, you learn to identify weaknesses in security and you learn to notice what details would suggest something isn't as it should be.
Any game that has ranged weapons and where you can't take a lot of hits will teach you how to clear your corners and take advantage of cover, both when under fire and beforehand so you don't get noticed.
Games can also help improve reflexes, problem solving, and analytical skills.
I think the woman in the grenade clip having her arm cramp is very likely, because you don't know how little of a grip is too little, and when it's your life and your kids' lives on the line, you're going to hang on with everything you've got. Adam might have some fear of something happening, but he knows it's not going to kill him, so he's not holding on with white-knuckle fear. But yes, he proved very handily you could hold onto that grenade for two hours like the woman did.
Agreed, but also she could have switched hands or tied up the grenade with something. They got this one right.
and also it was a woman 🤷♀️ smaller muscles
I can die happy knowing I can golf better than Adam and Jaime combined 🤣🤣🤣
All I am thinking is keep your front arm straight!! 🤣
S9 leaves me torn - miss the Trio of Terror - however Jaime really comes out his shell these episodes, it’s fun to see him more animated!
This is season 13, not 9 like in the title. Weird.
I don't know.. And I do realize how TV programs are done in the States, but it seems like Jamie is being overly scripted in to saying and doing stuff that are out of place half the time. I kinda liked the grumpy old version better. Seemed more like himself.
It stands to reason that video games can convey only those real skills that are actually used in the game. Since golf games don't make you line up your shot, you're not holding a golf club etc, it's a bad training tool for golf. Even the game they played is a motion capture golf game but there is no weight to the club, no length to it, and the game is probably very forgiving about the aim.
But the military uses video games to teach tactics and strategy which are actually skills you use during gaming.
Correct. While Pavlov VR has no bullet drop or wind interference, it allows you to perfect reflexes, instincts and aim. I shoot a FN57 at 300 meters, 318 yards in Pavlov VR with a 3 inch group for 21 shots ranking in the top 0.5% globally, this translates well into real life, particularly in CQB and woodland environments.
@@GaijinGamerGirlBut how does this work considering VR doesn't give you real gun weight, recoil, etc? Aren't those important to learn how to shoot a particular gun?
@@gownerjones you can definetly fake that vr gun controllers are a thing weight is easy and diffrent types of fake recoil exists
but that isn't the only thing you need to learn
@gownerjones1450 Not if you're over 5 years old. Try it yourself then comment.
@blessedbow720 He has clearly never played anything outside of tetris and pacman, let him have his moment 😆
(Looking at his channel content confirms this)
Jamie's golf swing was hurting my soul 😆 so terrible!!
Fancy pants 😂 Oh Jamie. Heck I wish I could play Pebble Beach. But I fear most of my clubs would be broken before the third tee
Pool/snooker/billiards games like virtual pool 3/4 will definitely help you seeing the right angles.
That basic instinct joke was pure genius
As of now, 2024, my skills with racing simulation (ACC with a basic Fanatec setup) help me a lot in driving irl.
100% true, only thing it does not help with though is having the balls to take a corner at 60mph 🤣
There was an incident where gamers from the Nissan GT Academy, who became skilled in driving through playing Gran Turismo, were banned from the British GT Championship. The reason given was that these gamers-turned-drivers were too fast and skilled, blurring the lines between amateur and professional racers.
@@Luzarioth Banned for being TOO good? That's ridiculous.
Been playing golf for around 40 years now and have taken friends who never played a day in their lives and all of them were better than Adam and Jamie here. I wondered why, but then it made sense. If they f**ked around on the first test they literally could only get better, lol :)
41:34 ???? that deer, just casually chilling in the background in the shade of the smal tree.... lmao
21:27 now you take the scarf and tie it around the grenade lol.
“That’s one” 😂 My uncle and I always say that to each other when we’re on the course
Spike strips have plastic sleeves that do the same job. Once inserted by a car running over the spike strip, it allows the wheel to deflate
Wow - those lessons at Pebble Beach cost a mere $500 per hour...
Would've been more analogous to have Kari or some other woman hold the grenade, too. Adam had only a little trouble, but a woman's small hands and lower muscle density might have confirmed that myth for women, before Adam used clothing to tie the spoon shut
The grenade myth? Don't get me wrong I love this show, always have, which is why I am rewatching them for like the 4th or 5th time, but Adam sitting in that little room wondering what Jamie's trap might be ....? Oh, I don't know, maybe it has something to do with that tube sticking out of the wall to his right filled with green paint that we can see in nearly every shot, LOL :D
Yeah, I agree, that part was straight up cringe
If you shoot one less bullet than you have in your magazine, it can make your reload faster because you don't have to re-cock your firearm.
For instance, if you put a 10 round pistol mag into a pistol and rack the slide, you now have 9 rounds in your magazine, and one in your chamber. If you shoot 9 rounds, you have nothing in your magazine, but still one in the chamber. That means if you drop that magazine after shooting 9 rounds and put in another 10 round magazine, you technically have 11 bullets in the gun, and can continue to shoot because that last bullet in the chamber from the old magazine will fire and re-rack the slide for you, emptying the chamber of the case of the previous cartridge and loading in a new cartridge from the fresh magazine.
If you need to shoot fast and reload faster, this is the way,
the basic instinct joke 😂🤣
Driving sims with a proper setup 100% translates.. Except for the brown pants factor!
Fear and g forces. That's the main difference. IRL your main feedback comes from the seat of your pants, in sim it's visual cues. That said people with sim experience can transfer their skills a lot quicker than someone being taught.
@@nicholascrow8133 Sim Racing heavily relies on force feedback and not so much on visual cues and depending on ones budget one can get force feedback all around the sim rig from the pedals to the seat.
@@DrEckigI'm well aware of this, I have a decent sim rig and actively race. Motion doesn't simulate sustained g's. There is still a delta between relying on your eyes vs feeling the g's move.
Driver61 covers this quite a lot as a main factor when discussing transitioning from rig to irl.
To be clear, I'm not saying that sim racing doesn't help, quite the opposite, just elaborating on the nuances between the two styles of driving feedback
I like this intro. Except soldering SMDs at 1:12. Or that is just me? :D
4:54 I love that Jamies the same way I would if I ever get to drive one of these things: the MarioKart way.
Well, don't mess with Travis. 😳
A lot of people quickly judging a show created 10+ years ago when the tech/simulation wasn't as advanced as it is now, also conducting a test on one form of sports really wasn't a conclusive test, im sure there are some sports that even today wouldn't give you an edge if you had no experience by using video games such as track and field, swimming, rugby, football ect, the only sport that has really given an ability to take what you've learnt from a game/sim is racing sims especially if the person learning has the right setup (wheel, peddles, gear shift).
13:44 i dont play sports game but i do, tiger woods PGA, you can put a huge spin on the ball and make it skid across the field slightly
jamies laugh at 47:05 omg
Got me.
For fast firing a handgun place your finger sideways so it doesn't bend around trigger. Thats what i learned from a guy who was in serbian special forces. Dude fired handgun like machinegun.
18:00 Jamie wins a trophy haha
Golf was a terible game to pick for this experiment, the skills just don't translate. Racing games can help you learn the more fine intricacies of driving, like grip, weight shifting, ect. Flight sims can help you learn how planes function and fly. Even more realistic shooters can teach you how to say fire a sniper from a long range and you have to compensate for windage and dropoff. Golf was just a wild pick, only a crazy high end golf sim where you're actually hitting a ball would have helped here.
I was thinking the same possibly the worse choice for games.. Ideally some form of simulator would be most suitable maybe a flight simulator
well done adam, better at drifting and Golf!!!
why even do the golf one if your gonna use the worst peripheral that is the PS3 motion controls
Rockstar has been scientifically proven to help people learn guitar
Watch the Grand Turisimo film.
And playing Wii Sports bowling and golf with the Wii Motion Plus controller helped me get better at real golf on the golfing range and actual bowling.
You mean Rocksmith, right? That's kinda cheating, since it's more of an instructional program which makes you play a real guitar than just a game.
"I know enough about golf to know you need to counter slope and momentum"
Id hope that even without seeing golf, one would understand a ball will roll to the lower point of a slope 😅
It has been proven that driving SIMS can turn complete novices into real world race drivers.
Gran Turismo says Hi!
I played so much super mario im now an expert at stomping turtles.
Doesnt come up often irl but still, it is s skill that translates well....
There are certain games which improves real world skills, one example is the pro sim drift racer who was invited to drift a top drift racers car for the sole purpose of finding out if skills were transferable which it turns out they are
Sim racing conveys to real life. Plenty of exemples available of sim racers that became real life racers. Just to name a few: Jimmy broadbent, Steve brown, some nascar drivers....
Both Jamie and Adam were doing the same mistake (or so it seems): you don't have to completely release the trigger before shooting again. That's what professional shooter did, and that's why his fire rate was much faster. So many episodes with guns and they didn't know about trigger reset?
A golf game can teach you the course layout but it can’t teach you to swing a club.
In a similar way, a driving game could teach you the layout of a circuit and the appropriate lines to take.
imagine guy whose name is James Bond trying it at home just because mythbusters said you can do it if you are namesake with him?
I was expecting an actual gold simulator
Thanks its great
for the quick gun magazine chance ask keanu reeves next time
put your watch-strap around the grenade,McGiver
Driving with a good setup I think is the only major mechanical skill that will translate, I remember that when I got GT5 on PS3 I was also taking my license, aside from the cluth that my DFGT didn't have, I basically used what I learned in the game IRL in driving school.
I really missed the old Myth Buster gang.
With the golf story, one could also improve by reading a book on how to play and putting it into practice.
how did they get Jamie Driving a Golf Cart past the insurance company?
Golf carts have a max speed of 10Mph and you don't need insurance to drive on private land.
You are PROUD for America because they kept him alive. Even if he wasn’t, most are hit with a CRAZY bill if they don’t have insurance!! Sometimes, even when they do. What a twisted view!
He picked the wrong golf game. They have golf simulators that you use real golf balls and clubs on. My uncle had one to help his golf game.
Good one. Do not try these at home unless you are James Bond... Or Q. 😅😅😅
17:33 hes seeing jesus
Upload the water slide episode
Yes, after NEVER using a shotgun in my real life, on my first attempt i scored 7-10 on real clay pigeon shooting.
Yes, a lot.
They overlooked one detail in grenade test. It was a woman, not a man holding it.
wish jamie used golf from wii sports😂
video game is more of a practice what you already know than learning from scratch... that is generally what pilot, police and nuclear reactor operator do... plus it's also matter what video game used as a practice, almost none of the video game that professional uses to practice is available to the public... i think the only one that do, is microsoft flight simulator.
I don’t think the video game was up to par. But in car racing Gran Turismo and NASCAR showed video games did help
the grenade one is still not realistic imho... the pressure and fear of a actual grenade exploding in your hands would make you grasp it with full force the whole time. pretty sure of it. and disabling it with something is quite the gamble not many would be willing to risk... all it needs is one slip and you're DEAD... not dirty with paint but actually DEAD. I think this Myth is not something you can just test like this
Gran Turismo did .... F1 drivers do
To really answer the question about games you'd need to really look at more than just one genre, and compare them to their real world equivalents.
Why would you hold the grenade and not tie something around it? Surely cannot be that hard, but I guess if it's live you're not in a good place for a bit of trial and error.
Dunk it!
wow playstation move?! it's been a while since i last saw one.
Depends on what skill bc sim racing has proven to be as great as a teacher as a real one
You know what? 13 is actually pretty decent for a first time encounter with golf. I wonder if whiffs and penalties were considered?
Why golf and not ETS p.e???
Obviously never saw the Gran Turismo movie
they only tested 1 game -.-
Gaming can teach you but they should have chosen something like shooting ....
Okay many problems. Ukrainians will tell you it does help. You tried 1 game at 1 sport. 2: it would be better if we took our the independent variables and made Adam and Jamie do both video games and real life coaching.
3 situations that I think video games could absolutly improve your real world performance all have very physical elements. and they are all called simulators rather than games. Racing sims, where you have a force feedback wheel, pedals all that. Flight sims, again with force feedback yoke or stick, and a commercial VR welding simulator. they all need a little bit more realistic hardware than just a PlayStation, but are proven to provide real world skills in a virtual environment.
I'm unsurprised at the result, golf is a very physical nuanced game, you can feel the difference between swings if its good and bad, and Jamie just wasnt getting that. the game controller does not replicate that at all. having no heft, you could see he almost never followed through, because he wasnt swinging a lump of steel around. Im in no way a good golfer, but ive played a few proper games, and a messed around with golf skills quite a bit. we used to clear out paddocks from a weed called pig-melons, which grow a disgusting smelling, inedible melon about softball sized when ripe. but take a golf club out and smack all the melons when they are golfball sized, before the seeds can mature. very labour intensive, but my dad was pretty big brain, send a few 13yo lads out and make a competition of it. the game was to splatter melon chunks over your mates. we were disgusting afterwards, but we all learnt pretty good powerful and accurate swings out of it. after 2 years of that, we'd eliminated 90% of the weeds, to the point it wasnt much of a sport any more.
Then we discovered there are such things as floating golf balls. so we set up a driving range on the beach, with a ski boat as a retriever. I totally understand how dogs feel chasing balls, you didnt go until the THWACK of the ball and then race out as fast as possible to retrieve the ball. but you had to moderate your wake and speed so you could actually pick it up. not only did it greatly improve my drive, but also my boat handling. which you would never get towing a skier, approaching a dock, fishing, etc. video games are fun, but messing about with your mates playing weird invented games is better. you just cant really do that on a Wednesday night after work on your couch
Would be much better a tecnical game like fliying a plane or maybe a simulator that can provide teorical knowleage instead of practice.
11:19 Missed opportunity to do a "tack" joke, since a small weld is called a tack. "Welding tacks on tacks" lol
for me i belive games can help just not in the way they tried. I can also play surgen simulator for 1 day but dont meks me a surgen. But it can teach some knowlede you can use in the real world like he kinda learned wich clubs to use. Kinda like books you can find stuff about and learn facts but you dont learn how to use it.
I love the later seasons because Adam seems to have rubbed off on Jamie in the way that he's seemingly a lot more comfortable on screen
One "video game" type that evolved into simulator, is Driving & Racing games.
And those really can train people into a Pro in real life.
Because that count as Simulator not a game anymore.
I recently had a go in a fully immersive set up that cost the guy about $60K all in. It had a car interior, the seat swung about on gyros, the steering wheel feedback was all reality based etc. etc... It was absolutely nothing like driving a real car on a track in away way shape or form. It was actually a lot less fun than I was expecting. There is no way you can train someone that's an amateur into a "pro" on any simulator, it's simply not happening...
@@th-pw8pndumbass. Watch how BMW traines their drivers in simulators.
Strange that Jamie couldn't figure out the distance per club thing even after being instructed to. Golf definitely isn't for everyone. lol
It was like the producers told him to go out of his way to be stupid. I'm pretty sure with his engineering background he could figure out when to use a driver and when to use an iron.
its already been proven now, Sim racing has transferance to real world racing, 2 sim racer i know are now actual racers and winning races, its a tool not a "wave a wand" and you Schumacher but still shows how far we've come.
You skiped ep08❤
Just erks me to fix their awful golf grips. You'll never improve by doing it wrong from the beginning
Mythbusters will always remain my favourite show , but once the Build Team left the show I felt it lost some of its Mojo .
Jamie is way more humble and down to earth, compared to Adam.
An actually likeable dude I would enjoy spending time with.
i kinda dont like these last seasons style of editing and it feels shallow without the whole crew... what happened? also noticed that the 3 stopped interacting with jamie and adam sometime around the mid seasons, why?
I got 22-4 k/d in a 1v4 in Pavlov VR with a pistol vs rifles and rank top 500 with said pistol. I have played 1 day of airsoft with a hired 250fps aeg g36 and got 25-5 k/d with confirms over 100 meters with iron sights. It translates.
Wow, they are still making Mythbusters? Or is this a myth?
As he points a firearm at his junk 🙄
I haven't seen the show with the grenade, but why couldn't she just throw the thing?
Because she was locked in a small room. Nowhere to throw it.
@@simontay4851 Thanks