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MOBIUS~Probably the Best Airbrush in The World? A Look at the Gaalheri Mobius 0.3mm
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2024
- In this video I look at the new Mobius 0.3mm airbrush from Gaahleri, a product breakdown and painting test highlighting the ability of the Modius 0.3mm Premium airbrush from Gaahleri.
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Labeling any airbrush as the ‘best in the world’ is subjective and is influenced by factors such as budget, experience, and painting requirements. In my experience, I have had a lot of success using the Iwata CM-C and Procon Boy PS770. The Mobius, featured in your video, seems well-engineered and budget-friendly for beginners. While my comment isn’t criticism, I believe the title may not fully capture these nuances. Appreciate the informative video!
Thanks for the feedback it very much appreciated.
I do appreciate the title is a bold statement, it is designed to stimulate discussion about the subject. I too have a number of high end airbrushes, H&S evo and Infinity CR+, Hansa and Mr Hobby Procon boy, all of which I enjoy using and rate very highly, but for a relatively new manufacturer to enter the market with products as good as this airbrush at its current price point, it makes you look twice. I will be following up on this video around summertime to feedback after an extended time using the Gaahleri airbrushes I will revise this bold statement if it doesn’t perform constantly well.
It's just clickbait. It is a tactic these 'reviewers' use to sell viewers on stuff they get for free. It's just business.
The video title is definitely click bait, but the opinions are genuine and the airbrush is very good, I will be following this video after extensive testing with an on test follow up where I will give my honest feedback good or bad👍
Influenced by sponsorships etc.
Thanks for your comment, I can assure you that my opinions are not given because I’ve been sponsored by Gaahleri, they are happy to hear my feedback either good or bad, they want to know if there are problems with their products so they can be rectified and make better. As I have said before they offer a very strong manufacturer guarantee with all of their products which is a statement of confidence in what they produce 👍
It seems everyone who is sent one, loves it. But on the Airbrush forum, everyone who actually paid for one has had nothing but negatives with these brushes. I like the look and would love to get my hands on a 0.2, but I don't have the money to risk.
Fair comment, I can only speak to the product I have received, though the airbrushes come with a solid manufacturer guarantee which should give peace of mine for anyone looking to purchase one. I can also say the company has been very good to deal with, having excellent communications getting back to my queries very quickly with solid customer support👍
There have been many issues with manufacturing tolerances and quality control. For as far as I know Gaahleri has done many adjustments to their process and the later Mobius brushes have been fine. Their customer support is great so if you have an issue and the have fixed that with a new part you will be able to get the replacement part for free I understood.
I have a later Mobius and I like it, though its not the same quality as my H&S Evo/Infinity its still nice and comparatively cheap. I prefer the Mobius .3 over the .2 as its much less finicky over the paint and it sprays almost as fine, lastly I don't like the MAC valve on the .2 as I never use it and it is in the way sometimes.
I bought their ghad-39 for less than $30 USD a few months back. I loved it so much that I bought their 2mm and 3mm morbius airbrushers. These are the only airbrushers that I use now and I also have an Iwata, a CREOS PS-289, a Sotar and a Neoeco . Those are all good airbrushers which says a lot about what Gaahleri are producing now. I just purchased their new airbrush holders but haven’t received them yet.
I’m very much the same in having a number of high end airbrushes but I am totally blown away with the new products from GAAHLERI, they make quality airbrushing very affordable fir everyone 👍
@@KitchenTableModeller 100% Agree and even their boxes are high end. They do not skimp out in any aspect.
You will like the stand... I'm ordering more of them for my Iwatas too.
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784 Awesome.
I bought a GHAD-39 and a Mobius 0.2. The Mobius came with a bent needle which they promptly replaced. The 39 had also a bent needle but not as bad. They need to up their quality control about 10 notches or make them someplace other than China as those guys are notorious for cutting corners at all opportunities. Their top tiered brushes should be near perfect if they are to make it in the market. BTW I used a Lupe to check the needles under high magnification.
Good review, I think they are solid brushes and for modeling likely should be a go to. they do have some quirks and issues, but minor.
I am very impressed with these airbrush’s from Gaahleri, I’ve been using them since new year and they have performed faultlessly, well worth trying especially as the price point is so well placed in the marketplace👍
I am an Iwata fangirl, no question, having used the real Iwatas for decades.. that being said I also own a Gaalheri Swallowtail fully optioned with fan cap and stand. It IS a remarkable value, and very good performer. After experiencing the Swallowtail, they got my attention. One of these you show here is next. Is the equal of a Custom Micron? Not likely, but I fully expect it to be very close. By huge margin these are the best value in fine quality airbrushing. At 1/4 the price of the Custom Micron's, it is darn remarkable. Looking forward to getting one as a companion to my other Gaahleri and Iwatas. I never thought I would be as good to go with another brand, but Gaahleri won me over.
Many thanks for your feedback, it’s great to hear the other opinions about these airbrushes and shows there’s no harm in taking a chance on using a different brand of airbrush. I was and am very impressed with the high level of build quality matched with spraying performance of these airbrushed, I will be looking to try more as the year progresses and will feedback on how they perform.
@@KitchenTableModeller Sometimes other modelers ask me about what brush to get... and I know they can't afford a Iwata Custom Micron for the fine stuff and an Iwata High Line with larger nozzle for larger work, so its been tough to make a suggestion. A $30 mass market brush will spray, but they just don't atomize and give results like the best.. With Gaahleri, I now have a line I can recommend without reservation.
I ordered 2 of the Mobius 0.3s and both of them had serious manufacturing problems out of the box, rendering them practically useless. HOWEVER, being the person I am, I spent a little time re-machining here, polishing there, replacing the entire auxiliary lever and needle with ones from Iwata HP-C+2s, and I tuned and tweaked and wound up with a pair of airbrushes that feel even better than my Custom Micron CMC +2s. . .the trigger control and overall user experience is right up there with my CMs, no joking it's absolutely fantastic. . . So yeah, with some expert reworking on these the Mobius 0.3 CAN rival a Custom Micron, but nobody is going to take the time and money to get theirs in that condition. . . Out of the box, the Mobius is merely the most beautiful display piece ever made, but not quite the equal of their Japanese counterparts..
Thanks for sharing your experience with these airbrushes, I believe Gaahleri have developed optional improved internal parts fir the needle chuck and guide which may achieve a similar enhancement as yours. I’m sure that they would be very interested to hear your feedback to further enhance their products 👍
No trigger has been as smooth as the trigger on my eclipse. When you pull it back it feels like its gliding on air.
I like Gaalheri as a company. I think their products place siginificant downward pricing pressure on the mid tier airbrush market and are forcing the cheap knock-offs to improve.
My first airbrush from them was the GHAD-39 which was on sale for $39 USD. I purchased that based on a review claiming it was as good as an Iwata HP-CS. Spoiler, it's not. It is a very good airbrush for $39, but my Fengda 183K was almost identical to that airbrush for only $29 and offered a plethora of extras. I would still recommend the GHAD-39 simply because of the customer service Gaahleri offers, but to claim it is as good as a $180 airbrush is laughable. It's good for the price point but it has flaws. Later after seeing multiple reviews of the Mobius, I decided to pick one up on a sale for $69 USD. I purchased the 0.3mm version.
I was hoping they resolved the flaws of the GHAD-39 and that I would finally have a budget friendly airbrush to compete with my Iwata's, Procon Boys, or even my badger renegade. What I recieved was a well built airbrush that works as well as and in many instances even better than any other budget friendly airbrush I own, but it still has flaws. There is a lot to like about it though.
The mirror finish cup is excellent and should be the standard on high-end airbrushes. The nozzle design makes it easy to clean and tear down. I like the Iwata nozzle design better as it is easier to clean, but this one is a step up from the GHAD-39. The build quality is better than almost every other budget airbrush I've come across. And of course there is the outstanding Ghaaleri customer service.
There are downsides though. I like to have granular control over the airflow, and this trigger makes it hard to do that. Air is either on or off with this airbrush. The slightest downward pressure gives you full air. If that is what I needed I would use one of my single action airbrushes. Pulling back the trigger to the half way point, and you start to get air even if you are not pressing down on the trigger. It completely defeats the purpose of having a dual action airbrush. I couldn't find anyway to adjust it to make that stop. This is just a presonal preference, but I fing the trigger a bit uncomfortable. Again, that is just preference, so I won't fault Ghaaleri for taking a design risk. While the brush atomizes and sprays well, It sprays better than my $30-$40 airbrushes, I would say it sprays as well as my Badger Patriot, but not as well as my Iwata HP-CS. I paid $80 USD for the Patriot. Honestly I thought the GHAD-39 sprayed just as good as the Mobius. The biggest gripe I had with the GHAD-39 had to do with the trigger guide lever which wasn't attached. That is common for cheap airbrushes, so it was good to see the Mobius had the trigger guide lever attached to the needle guide. It might not seem like a big deal, but I've wasted more time than I care to think about trying to get those to seat back in. It's also really easy to lose when it isn't attached to the guide.
Overall I like where Gaalheri is going with their product line. They are currently positioned between the low-end cheap chinese market and the higher-end name brand market. There was certianly a gap to fill there. Not only are they forcing the cheap market to push out better quality, they are barking at the heels of the name brands and hopefully putting some pressure on them to either innovate or at the very least keep their pricing in check. Keep up the good work Ghaaleri!
Hi Mark, thanks for your detailed feedback on Gaahleri and the airbrushes you have used from them. I hope that you have put this to them via their customer service email (gaahlerilab@gmail.com) I’m sure they will be very happy to receive your comments especially with reference to the possible improvements to the trigger function. It is very interesting to see the variety of opinions about Gaahleri and their products as well as the place in the market they are occupying and the pressure it places on other established manufacturers 👍👍
On the strength of your reviews I have ordered the swallowtail , looking forward to receiving it .
I haven’t used this airbrush as yet but if it’s built to the same quality as the rest of Gaahleri’s product line you should have no problem. Please let me know how you get on with using it, I’ll be very interested in your thoughts👍👍
You just screwed yourself man.
@@TheAirbrushProfessor time will tell
Airbrush Professor is not happy. While the Gaahleri brushes are not Iwata, they are the best I have encountered at a more affordable price point. I have a Swallowtail with optional fan tip, and find it well made, and to spray reliably. The needle seals are good, and the air chamber and nozzles are well executed. I need several airbrushes for different paints and application needs.. these will have a place right alongside my premium Iwata brushes👍.. and I paid for all my brushes. I get nothing on promotion.
I have worked with the .2 and .3 Mobius airbrushes and I can say its a fine brush, I liked working with it and got great results. However, it is 100% certain not the best airbrush in the world. Both my Harder & Steenbeck Evolution and Infinity are better, higher build quality, more consistent spray pattern, and much tighter seal tolerances. I must say that the Mobius is very close to the H&S, and it's much cheaper. My biggest fear is that the Mobius might not last as the seal tolerances are not that great and one of the two Mobius I worked with was very prone to getting paint into the inners of the brush as the seals don't work that well. I think this all has to do with manufacturing tolerances so you can get lucky or not.
If money is not an issue the H&S are certainly a better option. But if you want to spend a little less the Mobius works very well and I liked working with them. Both Gaahleri and H&S have great customer support so that is not a reason to prefer one above the other.
I have been looking into the airbrush market and read/viewed many reviews and I think GSI Creos/Mr Hobby PS-267/274 might be the best value for money as the quality is very close to H&S and the price is closer to Gaahleri. The only reason I never bought one is because it looks like cleaning them is more work then my H&S brushes. Cleaning is the reason I bought an H&S and sold my Badger Omni 4000 as the H&S does not require a tool and cleans faster then the Badger. Cleaning the Mobius is about the same as the H&S.
Thanks fir sharing your experiences about the Gaahleri Modius, I very much appreciate the time taken to share your impressions with the community.
I have the mobius 0.2 , for the price difference of less than 30 dollars i'd go with HS ultra wich i also use , no comparison performancewise , the mobius is easy to clean but it remains in the quality range of cheap chinese brushes albeit with a better chrome finish , the spray pattern is similar to fengda 180 0.2 wich is only 30 usd, atomization is far below a HS with a nozzle , i'd like ghaaleri to improve on it
Thanks for your feedback, you should pass your feedback on to the the team at Gaahleri so they can work on improving their products👍
Hmmm.....H&S machining looks excellent also Ultra 2024, and such....
Harder &Steenbeck are reaping the benefits of Anest Iwata Japanese engineering and design, and their newest airbrushes are proving to be BIG upgrades from their original designs 😀
I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the new 2024 INFINITY CR PLUS !!! In the meantime, I'm ordering an INFINITY Chameleon tomorrow 😃
Do you know how do they compare to H&S brushes? It's all I know.
They compare very well, I used nothing but H&S airbrushed till January this year and switching to Gashleri brushes, I’ve had no issue and can’t fault the build quality and functionality of the airbrushes I’ve been using. These factors alongside the price point make Gaahleri airbrushes very competitive and recommend by me👍
@@KitchenTableModeller Just got one from Amazon for £61, they had an offer on. Amazing price
I have their Ghad39 brush and love it and for $77 Austalian beats any mid range Airbrush out there o price and performance ive not evrr used a high e d air brush butbi get the feeli g this is ehatvthey would be like
Totally agree, for price, quality and performance of the airbrushes in Gaahleri’s range you’ll find it hard to get a better airbrush without having to pay a considerable high amount👍
Gaahleri are decent airbrushes, but i think it maybe a bit much to call it the best airbrush in the world when The Infinity is on the market. The best mid range price brush, maybe, but not the best in the world.
Thanks for your thoughts on my video title, to be honest I used this title to engender community conversation about the Gaalheri product line and the Mobius in particular. I think there is a broad set of opinions about the airbrush all of which are valid, though I do think the Mobius is on balance a very good product pitched to fill a gap in the market, time will tell how well it lasts and how Gaahleri reacts to all the product feedback they get👍
@@KitchenTableModeller I think the difference is not really that of quality, but the size of the needles. If Gaahleri did a 0.15 the same as H+S it may become a serious competitor to the Infinity.
I agree something that I’ll feed back to them👍
Their spray gun version looks interesting for those with arthritic (etc.) hands, otherwise they're too close to H&S Ultra v2 prices to go with Chineseium over Teutonic.
That’s a fare comment, thank you for your feedback, I agree the price is similar and ultimately it’s up to the individual as to which they purchase. I think what has impressed me the most is the innovation that such a new brand has brought to the market, I can’t wait to see what else Gaahleri produce and how they innovate to create their defining brand characteristics, only time will tell👍
@@KitchenTableModeller absolutely. And it's a nice channel name as I have to do my hobby in the kitchen too. I'm literally typing this on a taptop on top of the cooker.
So many people work from their Kitchen table, I thought that it I would show folks that you don’t need a dedicated hobby room with a wall of paints and products, just a simple workspace with general tools and a lot of enthusiasm 👍👍
The best airbrush in the world??? I needed that laugh this morning. I really did. THANK YOU
Thanks for the feedback, I must be honest I did think it was a little cheeky to title the video with saying, though i was thinking of a certain larger brands advertising in the 1990s. The airbrush is very good and worth the praise given😁👍
@@KitchenTableModeller it’s a typical Chinese brush, with all the flaws that come with them. Sorry man.
It’s definitely a Chinese airbrush but a significant step above what’s normally associated with that label, it’s up to personal choice if anyone wants to try one but as I said, for the price point it is hard to beat.
@@KitchenTableModeller lot of reports of manufacturing defects and just plain shoddy machining. I own all the Gaahleri brushes except for the Swallowtail and agree with those reports. It would be one thing if these cost $30USD like some other superior Chinese brushes but they don’t. They’re priced in the $65-$100 range which puts them squarely in GSI PS270/289 and H&S Ultra range which makes a joke out of the Gaahleris.
Thanks for the info, I’ve not heard of any issues with these brushes and can only speak to the ones I have, which are well made and have worked perfectly so far. If I have any issues I’ll let the community know straight away. A point to remember is the manufacturers product replacement guarantee, if you’ve had problems let Gaahleri know they promise to replace any faulty products, I would be interested to hear how anyone gets on if they need to use this guarantee.
Got me beat why so many wanting to put them down with my luck if anyone was going to get a shoddy brush it would be me
Not sure why they get a degree of bad press, the manufacturer guarantee should put a buyer at ease and shows the confidence they have in their product. I have five of the Gaahleri product range and have no issues with any of them😁👍
Honest opinion, there is no way a 65 dollar airbrush holds a candle to a Badger or Iwata, there is just no way.
If it's a sponsored review, I think it should be held to a higher standard of comparison versus a real high end airbrush.
I'm not saying cheap airbrushes dont perform basic functions well, it's just that they dont hold up in the long run.
Thanks for the feedback I appreciate your thoughts on this subject.
I have given my honest opinion and do hold this airbrush to a high standard when comparing it to accepted market leaders such as Badger, Iwata, H&S, that is why I’m so impressed with this airbrush especially considering it’s price point. I am putting it to an extended test period and will be following up on this video in the summer, if it fails to hold up in any way I will make it known and revise my initial statement.
@@KitchenTableModeller What worries me is that companies who send products out for free in return for a review, never get the negative feedback, because the reviewer is affraid to kick them in the balls.
I've given positive and negative reviews, and the negative reviews always means, no more free products from that brand... and most RUclipsrs dont want that, because having something sponsored is like a badge of honor... but it doesnt actually lead to anything that benefits you, other then a free airbrush.
I feel this is a problem in the "reviewer" community.
That’s a totally fair comment, I don’t hide the fact that I was sent the airbrushes, but I’m not afraid of calling out any problems or failures if I find any. I’ve not been sent anything before now and am not fussed if I don’t get anything else sent, I’ve really have given my honest opinion of the product but if it fails I will make it known.
Bad Blood Studios - - OH don't worry, Dave G and myself have "c*nt punted" Gaahleri and their whole campaign so badly that they actually redesigned the offending Mobius parts and have them available and are using them in all new Mobius models released from mid February on. . .Hopefully the Mobius will now be able to RELIABLY and honestly jump in the ring with the best airbrushes available and go toe to toe with them. I'm still rooting for it🎉
@@SMM-IWATA_MODELING So are they offering these redesigned parts free? I got mine about a week after launch, but still haven't used it yet.
teflon bearing? no O rings? simple needle removal? what does it make the best airbrush? oher than gaahleri is sending it to everybody (literally) for review.. its not even that (fengda) cheap.
Thank you for your feedback I consider all the aspects of the airbrush including manufacturing quality, design, innovation, usability, maintenance as well as the manufactures replacement guarantee against the price point, which in the UK is still less than a Neo for Iwata, in order to reach my opinion about the airbrush. I totally agree that Gaahleri has been very proactive in its marketing strategy to get exposure for their products, but that should not be held against them as they are trying to get a foothold in the market place. As I said in my reviews for the price they are worth considering 👍
@@KitchenTableModeller Some Facts from an old codger. Ive been using Badger products since the 1980`s. Recently upgraded with two Patriot 105`s and a Sotar 20/20. The all atomise well as expected. But, they all have air leaks from the nozzle ends and the patriots have air leaks at the air valve connections. But have Teflon seals where it matters so I can use solvents.
Cheap Fengda `s have poor thread connections and air leaks at the nozzle ends that vary with every one you come across. Cheap rubber seals everywhere to compensate and that melt with solvents. Chrome finish that flakes off with time.
I have a Gaahleri Ghad 39 that has teflon seals at all paint contact areas. No air leaks and atomises paint as well as my Patriots, H&S Ultra and Evolution 2024`s and my Iwata Revolution CR3. They also have a better quality chrome finish and spares available direct from the USA at the moment.
They are a massive cut above all cheap Fengda, Sagud, Gocheer, and Gohangyaself cheepo`s.......