Very handy idea. Many years ago, before recoil starters were common on mowers, all mowers came with a cord that you wrapped around the coupler where a recoil would normally be attached. Once wrapped, you merely pulled it to spin the engine. It was a pain. But, back then it was the only way. Cordless drills weren't around yet. When I was a kid, I would mow lawns for extra cash. The going rate was $2.00 -$3.00 per yard. Nowadays, it's at least $50 and UP! LOL
BRILLIANT! I love how your mind works. And this solved a problem I've had in that I could not manage to find a replacement pull starter, even those that were supposed to fit! I simply love this! Thank you, Daniel!
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ruclips.net/user/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
I JUST LOVE THIS !!! I took my days-old $500 new Toro back (for a full refund) which I'd bought MAINLY FOR "the electric start", got the old balky Toro back out, took the perfectly good recoil top OFF & this idea of yours worked PERFECTLY !!! THANKS !!!!! You saved me $$ and FRUSTRATION. I'M the boss over my mower once again !!! It starts now when I need it to -- EVERY TIME.
Mitchell Richardson I thought about cutting an extension like he did on the video but instead, i bought socket adapters to drill bits 3 size (1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 inch) for only 4 bucks.
In the 1960's we used an electric cord drill to do this...... P.S. an old tire iron has the socket right for most motor nuts, just cut the size off you need, file down the shaft to fit ? the drill. OLD GUYS RULE!!!!
every spring or fall my back gets smoked trying to pull log splinter, powerwasher. The motion of yanking to the side brings back in full pain glory my blown discs in the lumbar. thanks for tip
I just started a 16.5 Briggs with drill and socket. Don't cut up a good extension. Use a carriage bolt. The square shoulder will fit into the square hole in the 1/2 inch drive socket. My engine is 16.5 horse, so I used an AC electric drill. The mower had also been setting for at least 3 years. It took about ten try's to start it up.
Great Idea- Two Suggestions-you should make a holster attachment for your drill. What happens if you have to stop to move a rock or stick? It sure would be a pain to walk back lug this around or walk back to your tool shed. Also why didn't you use a 1/2 extension rather than a 3/8 with adapters ?
lol yea a new solenoid would be alot better but we just moved a couple of days ago and i had to give my lawn mower back to my grandpa since we were moving into apartments and didnt have any space for my mower which realy sucked and video helped resolve some lawn mower wiring questions i had and thanks for the help
👍🏻👏✅I’m having trouble with my pull start mower, and have the same craftsman 19.2v drill. My cord pulls, it’s just really hard to pull. Mechanic said it had lots of torque. But once it starts, it’ll run as long as you don’t stop it or it gets choked up with grass build up. Then I’ve got wait about an hour before it’ll restart. But your solution is a great idea for when my cord breaks. 4-25-2021
That's was great. I have never seen that done before. Great idea for people with shoulder problems or other things that would not allow them to pull start. Bravo!
Reminds me of a video I saw once where a guys kill switch on his mower stopped working. so, instead of paying the crazy high price of 3 dollars for a new one, he simply tipped the mower up and grabbed the spinning blade with his hand to stop the mower. It only worked once but it got the job done.
Warning!!! I start lots of small engine like this when they come into my shop for repair and the pull start is missing. If there is a problem with the engine like a sheared flywheel key or the valves are out of adjustment, the engine will kick back turning the drill backwards. This can seriously damage your wrist and fingers. Be careful
My right rotator cuff is bad so I removed the recoil start and cut a hole in the cover of my cub cadet mower in order for me to start it this way. I'm not sure if the valves are out of adjustment or not. The mower runs great, but at least once every time I go to start it, it will kick back like you say. I always make sure to place my foot on the deck, and while holding the drill with both hands, I'll brace the drill on my leg. Still, sometimes it hurts my wrist. I purchased a rachet adapter to try and prevent this by allowing it to spin backward freely when this happens. However, the "Performance Tool" brand name ratchet adapter I purchased locks both ways from the sudden impact caused when when the engine tries to go backward. I'm going to purchase another name brand until I find one that will work. I'm no lawnmower mechanic by far, and I've never heard valves being out of adjustment could cause this. It seems to me if my engine valves were out of adjustment enough to cause this that my engine wouldn't be running as good as it is. Could it be possible for the valves to be out of adjustment in my engine to cause this, and the engine still starts and runs great like it does? I need to get past this before it does break my wrist. Thanks
@wcjcnc I'm going to try another route like another you tuber did his. He used the gear box and motor from a kids' power wheel car. It uses the original part from the recoil start that fits down into the cup mounted on top of the flywheel. When starting the fingers, come out and turn the engine. Once you let off the starter switch, the fingers retract
Let me add one thing. When using the drill and the engine starts, DO NOT STOP THE DRILL and then remove it. NO! If you do that, there is a chance that hand can dislocate or brake. AND if the engine starts and you let the drill stay on because you didn't have time to remove it, then the drill can circle around so fast and can be thrown as a bullet into anywhere. When drilling and engine is about to start slowly pull up and keep the button pressed. Thats the only way and safe way.
It worked for a stubborn lawn mower. Used a octogon old 1/2" drive 15/16 socket. My 3/8" drill would not work and I didn't have 1/2-3/8 adapter. So I found a 1/2" electric lamp bolt and placed the head in socket and tighten down the nut. U had to over tighten the bolt with a vise grips and 1/2" wrench. Iprimed the bulb about 4 times. It took about 10 seconds of running at full speed and it cranked. I let run for 3 minutes. This #$%$ lawnmower would not start before this trick. Thanks LC
I use small bungee cords as bail-bar tiebacks. One end has a 3/4 in. black ball, the other has a loop that you pull over the ball. I tied a knot or two in the middle to shorten the length so I only have to wrap one time around, then fasten. One cord for the blade-brake/engine-kill bar, and the other for the front-wheel self-propel bar. I always remove the "propel" cord off first. Works like a champ! I'm getting the parts together now to duplicate your "electric start" tool.
Nice Shoes... You do know you could just wrap a 4 ft piece of rope around the part with the nut and pull it and it will start... That is the way they was made many years ago...
When the starter goes bad on my old truck I take the hubcaps off with it in gear so I can put a drill like this onto the lug nuts and crank it up. When it cranks up I got to run like hell to catch it before it goes down into the woods. Works like a charm as long as I got my running shoes on.
It doesn't, at least not my Bauer drill from Harbor Freight. It cranks no problem in low gear, but that doesn't spin it quite fast enough to start it easily and reliably. In high gear, it either won't crank or it stalls as soon as it starts spinning.
@@averyalexander2303 Interesting!I wonder if a newer brushless drill would have enough juice, I've seen them kick back though, Musty1 has a device for that to keep you safe if using like an AC drill as well from kickback! wow 15 years ago I made that comment! different life!
@@Kingsoupturbo It likely would. A newer battery would likely do better too. My drill is around 6-7 years old now, so I'm sure the battery lost a bit of its power. A good corded drill would work much better for sure. Good point about kickback, that could be quite dangerous to the drill and yourself. A one way clutch would be ideal for this setup so the engine isn't directly tied to the drill and can spin up freely without affecting the drill. Even just setting the drill's clutch to the loosest setting that doesn't slip while cranking would provide quite a bit of protection compared to the clutch being totally locked if the engine did kick back.
@@averyalexander2303 Good points! some of the new brushless drills are so powerful, and it really depends on what you're turning over I suppose, how much compression etc! I think if you get a kickback, it can be quite bad for your hands, think old Model-T starting broken thumb syndrome! I have a newish Toro mower that starts so easily on the pull start, all those newer motors have compression release for starting, it even had an electric start option, what a world!
I did this once with a mower. When the engine started it had just enough kick to loosen the nut on top. 10 sec later it came flying off and rolling down my driveway. Be careful starting small engines with this method!
there are free woking lawn mowers everywhere on craigslist, still wondering if i could use one from a project but all the engines have the rod facing downwards
@@Shyzah You can obtain bevel gears that can convert the motion, you can also convert the engine to horizontal if you open the crank case and add a oil slasher inside the case. The reason you can't run the engine horizontally is just because it gets oil starved, the oil slasher can fix this. You may have to modify the case so the oil doesn't just go to the cylinder, but that can just be orientation.
I wonder if there is a way you could either find a one way clutch to add to this or make one of those from the electric start weedeaters work to your advantage
That is amazing. I am going to do this to my 3 month old AWD mower that no matter how many times you pull the cord it now refuses to start. Thank you. I will buy the attachments sized so no need to weld.
Mark Winberry Such an obtuse thing to say. So you troll the Internet looking for foolish things to say to others............get a life Markie! For someone who claims to be so much smarter than everyone I see you have posted nothing. No videos. Just your imbecile remarks.
Very good. I did about the same thing 15 years ago with a Lawn Boy. I used a half inch impact drive. Someting good to use instead of a half inch extension rod, is an old hexagonal punch. Electric drill and its chuck like hexagonal shaft. The end going in the socket, where it will be welded, could have to be grinded accordingly...
can i mount the drill on the side of handle bars and weld some extention and swevels down to the starting bolt ? make it alot easier for them stop and goes.! ?
I got a recoil for a brigs 3.5 off of ebay for 12 dollars and I didn't have to buy the shroud/cover, just rope and the little round metal piece that house the spring. Got it in the mail, got out my pop rivet gun and put pop rivets in the old holes in the engine cover. works great, don't have to run back to the garge when the engine dies, don't have to wory about my battery being charged, don't have to worry about standing right next to the engine. but good idea if it works for you then great.
It rocked my world, I used this method on a hammer drill and it saved me hours of cusing and swearing and kicking a stupid engine, yanking on a stupid cord....
the older 3.5 classic, sprint, and quattro engines they used a starter clutch that stuck in the recoil assembly as you have to get a socket that fits onto the starter clutch to start the engine. as some 3.5 hp engines from the early 1970s - the mid 1980s they used a vertical pull starter. if it breaks take the flywheel screen off and use the socket and nut to start it with your drill.
No sir wattage is the only electrical term you need to worry about because voltage and amperage determine sine wave and batters are labeled by voltage because it's a generic house hold word and if batteries were labeled by water they would also have to be labeled by microfarad to determine the series or circuit capabilities which would just confuse people but appliances have specific size and shape batteries and connectors depending on what wattage and since wave.
You can buy the drill adapter at Lowe's that allows you to put sockets into a drill. You do not have to cut a perfectly good extension. Also the adapter has a lock ball so the socket will not fall off.
use the correct adapter or an impact driver and it's a way easier diy. also instead of a bunch of those plastic ties, use a cable cuff you find at the big box stores. I use one to keep my mower going when I leave it.
I've had to resort to that trick to get my 18" Husqvarna chain saw running due to sticky return on the pull starter. Not something I'd want to do long term though unless I could obtain or engineer a unidirectional clutch so that the motor can run faster than the drill without torquing the drill out of one's hand.
I recently bought a new start rope for my lawnmower. I wish I would have seen this beforehand. I was waiting for spring time to replace it, but I might leave it off now.
You can also grind a notch in that starter cup, take some heavy duty string, tie a knot in the string, and have a rope start (where you wrap the rope around the starter cup then pull)
With the mower moving around on the floor after it started, I would say you have a vibration problem, maybe a bend blade or a bend crankshaft, if that is the case, time to toss that for another one.
Thank you so much for the help. Just to let you know there is now adapters for you drill to use for sockets. $3.50 for a set which covers 1/4" , 3/8" , and 1/2".
I can totally see doing this to a mower on its last legs as this mower obviously is or was. it also has a bent crankshaft as you watch it walk itself on the floor. lots of guys do this and Toro actually makes the tool to 'jump start' their weed eater/trimmers that goes in a drill. so is this crazy? No. Is it safe? probably not. Is it a "man victory"? Hell Yeah!
I learned this trik wen I was a kid about 18 years ago for the same reason I broke my pull start on my little 49cc scooter and it worked only trouble I had was getting the drill off quickly before it started because if I was not quick I would not start it other than that it worked and I thought of that before I even had a device that I could get on the internet as I didn't lke computers wen I was a kid but a little thinking and a little work I had my scooter up and running in no time lol
Just tried this with my lawn boy 6.5hp, didn't work like it does here, I get the mower started then for some reason the flywheel bolt just seems to loosen itself and so I got a running two cycle engine with no bolt to hold on the fly wheel, what did I do wrong?
Or do what used to do, cut a notch on that bell that sits on top if the flywheel(the thing you´re sticking that socket down into) with a dremel tool or a metal file then find a rope that strong, tie a knot at one end and some sort of a handle on the other.Then just put the knot in the notch you cut in the bell, wrap the rope around the bell and pull! There yah go!
Nowadays the tools required would cost about $24. You can get a recoil starter part off a used machine from nearly small engine repair shop for less than $20 or less. Add in the danger in doing this, and the fact some crankshafts will actually break if you use an impact drill or any really strong drill ruining the machine forever and you got a great recipe for broken fingers and a dead machine. But if that's what it takes to feel manly, what the hell? To quote General McAuliff at the Battle of the Bulge: "Nuts."
I used a 3/4" socket on my drill motor when it's hard to start and my arm is tired of pulling the rope.Also,in cold weather they will be hard starting. Use a heat gun on the carb. Works.Haven't used my rotary mower as a snow blower...yet.
I'll have to weigh in on the side of avoiding the zip tie bypass of that safety bar. I know it's awkward to start while pressing the safety bar down, but that position forces the operator to stand in a safe position. It's surprisingly easy to amputate human parts with a lawn mower, especially toes....
Hey hopefully you respond but I have a 212 6.5 horsepower predator engine but the compression on this thing could rip your damn arm off do you think this would work on that? Or is it really worth buying an electric starter? Also I'm new to engines so could you help me out a bit, what is the part/parts I would need to make the engine start with a key?
I did this myself with a backpack blower. Worked great. Unfortunately by starting it this way for a long time, the nut on the engine wore off. Then I couldn't get the nut off to replace it. Ended up giving the unit away. I had no way to start it. If you start something with a drill, keep an eye on the bolt of the unit. make sure you are not wearing it down.
+Infandous Ktenology I had forgotten this comment I made. Yes I couldn't get the nut off because it was fused on the shaft. Since it was worn down and rounded, the drill couldn't fit on it anymore. Thanks for your reply.
grind an angled notch in the old recoil pulley and wind a rope around it..done it a hundred times and a rope is easier to put in your pocket while your mowing than a drill is.
I'd like to know too. Awesome innovation! Sure beats repairing a recoil starter, only to have it brake again in the future. Would it be safe to use a corded drill? Like 3.8 AMPS?
@birdwing98 i was doing some research trying to find out if it were actually possible to start the engine by spinning the blade without any tools. Have you legitimately started a mower as such? furthermore isn't that rather hazardous?
I was going to comment that you might want put your foot on the mower not in front of it. :) Good point about the socket coming off before you modified it!
Everyone, give this man credit. He has improved the starting of lawn mowers world wide. Great job dude. - Love it.!
You think he's the first to do this....
My Lost Wife You aren’t the sharpest tool in the box are you......
Very handy idea. Many years ago, before recoil starters were common on mowers, all mowers came with a cord that you wrapped around the coupler where a recoil would normally be attached. Once wrapped, you merely pulled it to spin the engine. It was a pain. But, back then it was the only way. Cordless drills weren't around yet. When I was a kid, I would mow lawns for extra cash. The going rate was $2.00 -$3.00 per yard. Nowadays, it's at least $50 and UP! LOL
me to.
shoes were thoe lol
BRILLIANT! I love how your mind works. And this solved a problem I've had in that I could not manage to find a replacement pull starter, even those that were supposed to fit! I simply love this! Thank you, Daniel!
Ive thought about doing this before but YOU SIR....are a pioneer!
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ruclips.net/user/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
I JUST LOVE THIS !!! I took my days-old $500 new Toro back (for a full refund) which I'd bought MAINLY FOR "the electric start", got the old balky Toro back out, took the perfectly good recoil top OFF & this idea of yours worked PERFECTLY !!! THANKS !!!!! You saved me $$ and FRUSTRATION. I'M the boss over my mower once again !!! It starts now when I need it to -- EVERY TIME.
I remember watching this goof like 5 years ago. he sounds so happy with himself.
You do know that you can buy a socket driver that fits on a cordless drill without having to modify your tools to make it work.
that's true
he said that in the video
Mitchell Richardson I thought about cutting an extension like he did on the video but instead, i bought socket adapters to drill bits 3 size (1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 inch) for only 4 bucks.
I've got them tools, came in a set of three and only a few quid, use it to sharpen /back lap my cylinder petrol mower
Not always
In the 1960's we used an electric cord drill to do this...... P.S. an old tire iron has the socket right for most motor nuts, just cut the size off you need, file down the shaft to fit ? the drill. OLD GUYS RULE!!!!
every spring or fall my back gets smoked trying to pull log splinter, powerwasher. The motion of yanking to the side brings back in full pain glory my blown discs in the lumbar. thanks for tip
I do concur my good man old guys do rule
OLD SCHOOL, and proud of it !!
if you're going to manufacture that, I suggest adding an "overrun" type ratchet so it doesn't try to break your wrist when the engine starts.
Wow, you just saved me from buying a new recoil starter, and a lot of bucks to boot, thank you for sharing a great idea...
Duane
I just started a 16.5 Briggs with drill and socket. Don't cut up a good extension.
Use a carriage bolt. The square shoulder will fit into the square hole in the 1/2 inch drive socket. My engine is 16.5 horse, so I used an AC electric drill. The mower had also been setting for at least 3 years. It took about ten try's to start it up.
I have a lawnboy 1973 mower. It’s handy when your mower starts up first try. Cool idea gonna have to try that sometime
I cannot believe I never thought of this when my similar type of problem persisted, great idea....
LOVE THIS !!! I'm taking my $500 new Toro back, getting the old one out & trying this !!! THANKS !!!!!
Great Idea- Two Suggestions-you should make a holster attachment for your drill. What happens if you have to stop to move a rock or stick? It sure would be a pain to walk back lug this around or walk back to your tool shed. Also why didn't you use a 1/2 extension rather than a 3/8 with adapters ?
So complex, and yet so ineffective!
So dangerous, yet so fun!
I have several generators with B&S motors I got started after they sat for nearly 6 years. One was a sweeper that sat for nearly 11 years.
lol yea a new solenoid would be alot better but we just moved a couple of days ago and i had to give my lawn mower back to my grandpa since we were moving into apartments and didnt have any space for my mower which realy sucked and video helped resolve some lawn mower wiring questions i had and thanks for the help
👍🏻👏✅I’m having trouble with my pull start mower, and have the same craftsman 19.2v drill. My cord pulls, it’s just really hard to pull. Mechanic said it had lots of torque. But once it starts, it’ll run as long as you don’t stop it or it gets choked up with grass build up. Then I’ve got wait about an hour before it’ll restart. But your solution is a great idea for when my cord breaks. 4-25-2021
That's was great. I have never seen that done before. Great idea for people with shoulder problems or other things that would not allow them to pull start. Bravo!
Reminds me of a video I saw once where a guys kill switch on his mower stopped working. so, instead of paying the crazy high price of 3 dollars for a new one, he simply tipped the mower up and grabbed the spinning blade with his hand to stop the mower. It only worked once but it got the job done.
pretty nifty idea. whatever works, try it. theres lots of things that work for things that you wouldnt think would work. Awesome.
Warning!!! I start lots of small engine like this when they come into my shop for repair and the pull start is missing. If there is a problem with the engine like a sheared flywheel key or the valves are out of adjustment, the engine will kick back turning the drill backwards. This can seriously damage your wrist and fingers. Be careful
My right rotator cuff is bad so I removed the recoil start and cut a hole in the cover of my cub cadet mower in order for me to start it this way. I'm not sure if the valves are out of adjustment or not. The mower runs great, but at least once every time I go to start it, it will kick back like you say. I always make sure to place my foot on the deck, and while holding the drill with both hands, I'll brace the drill on my leg. Still, sometimes it hurts my wrist.
I purchased a rachet adapter to try and prevent this by allowing it to spin backward freely when this happens. However, the "Performance Tool" brand name ratchet adapter I purchased locks both ways from the sudden impact caused when when the engine tries to go backward. I'm going to purchase another name brand until I find one that will work.
I'm no lawnmower mechanic by far, and I've never heard valves being out of adjustment could cause this. It seems to me if my engine valves were out of adjustment enough to cause this that my engine wouldn't be running as good as it is. Could it be possible for the valves to be out of adjustment in my engine to cause this, and the engine still starts and runs great like it does? I need to get past this before it does break my wrist. Thanks
@@LH-kz2nf No ratchet adapter will work.
@wcjcnc I'm going to try another route like another you tuber did his. He used the gear box and motor from a kids' power wheel car. It uses the original part from the recoil start that fits down into the cup mounted on top of the flywheel. When starting the fingers, come out and turn the engine. Once you let off the starter switch, the fingers retract
This is an exciting video because it shows a good cold start of them, I really like it.
i love how you keep so clam on some people who are being out right jerks to you awsome!
Lmao I'm about to take off all my pull strings and use my ridgid impact as a starter 😂👍🏾
Let me add one thing. When using the drill and the engine starts, DO NOT STOP THE DRILL and then remove it. NO! If you do that, there is a chance that hand can dislocate or brake. AND if the engine starts and you let the drill stay on because you didn't have time to remove it, then the drill can circle around so fast and can be thrown as a bullet into anywhere.
When drilling and engine is about to start slowly pull up and keep the button pressed. Thats the only way and safe way.
Awesome concept! You've solved my problem with my Briggs & Stratton.
Zardoz Z
It worked for a stubborn lawn mower. Used a octogon old 1/2" drive 15/16 socket. My 3/8" drill would not work and I didn't have 1/2-3/8 adapter. So I found a 1/2" electric lamp bolt and placed the head in socket and tighten down the nut. U had to over tighten the bolt with a vise grips and 1/2" wrench. Iprimed the bulb about 4 times. It took about 10 seconds of running at full speed and it cranked. I let run for 3 minutes. This #$%$ lawnmower would not start before this trick. Thanks LC
I use small bungee cords as bail-bar tiebacks. One end has a 3/4 in. black ball, the other has a loop that you pull over the ball. I tied a knot or two in the middle to shorten the length so I only have to wrap one time around, then fasten. One cord for the blade-brake/engine-kill bar, and the other for the front-wheel self-propel bar. I always remove the "propel" cord off first. Works like a champ! I'm getting the parts together now to duplicate your "electric start" tool.
Thanks! Knowledge is everything! Good idea! It will make it easier to trouble shoot some stubborn engines. Thanks again!
Nice Shoes... You do know you could just wrap a 4 ft piece of rope around the part with the nut and pull it and it will start... That is the way they was made many years ago...
that's what I've done in the past. but honestly if the thing runs good and is in good shape don't be a cheap ass and buy the damn recoil.
True I Have started many this way.
Z71Ranger ....I laughed for two days.. first thing I saw.. and your dry simple comment "Nice shoes"
When the starter goes bad on my old truck I take the hubcaps off with it in gear so I can put a drill like this onto the lug nuts and crank it up. When it cranks up I got to run like hell to catch it before it goes down into the woods. Works like a charm as long as I got my running shoes on.
good job....you got it done! So many people just cant think past the parts on the shelf at the store. :)
You can use a servo motor to spin the starter with the adapter and have that as an electric start. It works on the similar concept of the drill.
But wouldn’t the fact that it’s spinning break off the electric motor, unless you have some kind of way to disengage it?
@@ogre1890 yes you could use like a centrifugal clutch or something like that to disconnect it
@@caleb0606 yeah good idea. I’d thought of using a 1 way bearing
I'm impressed that just a cheaper cordless drill like that on high speed gearing has enough torque to turn over one of those two strokes, nice job!
It doesn't, at least not my Bauer drill from Harbor Freight. It cranks no problem in low gear, but that doesn't spin it quite fast enough to start it easily and reliably. In high gear, it either won't crank or it stalls as soon as it starts spinning.
@@averyalexander2303 Interesting!I wonder if a newer brushless drill would have enough juice, I've seen them kick back though, Musty1 has a device for that to keep you safe if using like an AC drill as well from kickback! wow 15 years ago I made that comment! different life!
@@Kingsoupturbo It likely would. A newer battery would likely do better too. My drill is around 6-7 years old now, so I'm sure the battery lost a bit of its power. A good corded drill would work much better for sure.
Good point about kickback, that could be quite dangerous to the drill and yourself. A one way clutch would be ideal for this setup so the engine isn't directly tied to the drill and can spin up freely without affecting the drill.
Even just setting the drill's clutch to the loosest setting that doesn't slip while cranking would provide quite a bit of protection compared to the clutch being totally locked if the engine did kick back.
@@averyalexander2303 Good points! some of the new brushless drills are so powerful, and it really depends on what you're turning over I suppose, how much compression etc! I think if you get a kickback, it can be quite bad for your hands, think old Model-T starting broken thumb syndrome! I have a newish Toro mower that starts so easily on the pull start, all those newer motors have compression release for starting, it even had an electric start option, what a world!
I did this once with a mower. When the engine started it had just enough kick to loosen the nut on top. 10 sec later it came flying off and rolling down my driveway. Be careful starting small engines with this method!
AllNamesRntAvailable do they have something like that for an impact ratchet?
Hahahaha priceless
Good idea, I use a similar set up to spin out the head bolts etc. once I have un-torqued them, it sure speeds things up!
this looks like the same mower lol
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aerospace machinist
thats a bit harsh dude
I have yet to try this idea, but I do plan to give it a whirl :)
aerospace machinist Who shit is your corn flakes?
I used an impact driver on one and ended up cracking the flywheel. It still runs though.
wow. that's purdy cool man. It even sounds like a car starter.
That entire mower didn't cost 50 bucks. Also looks like you almost trimmed your toe nails.
Yes, he did. Ouch.!
there are free woking lawn mowers everywhere on craigslist, still wondering if i could use one from a project but all the engines have the rod facing downwards
I tried those nut on flywheel came off when it started was looking for one way devise ruined crank on Tecumseh motor bike 2hp.
jim davidson stfu
@@Shyzah You can obtain bevel gears that can convert the motion, you can also convert the engine to horizontal if you open the crank case and add a oil slasher inside the case. The reason you can't run the engine horizontally is just because it gets oil starved, the oil slasher can fix this. You may have to modify the case so the oil doesn't just go to the cylinder, but that can just be orientation.
I wonder if there is a way you could either find a one way clutch to add to this or make one of those from the electric start weedeaters work to your advantage
That's GREAT so all i need is a 15/16 socket an extension some duct tape and a strong cordless drill 18v or more? Awsom!
Nice Job, I have the same drill, I actually have 2 of them, I guess I have a new use for them, Thank You !...
That is amazing. I am going to do this to my 3 month old AWD mower that no matter how many times you pull the cord it now refuses to start. Thank you. I will buy the attachments sized so no need to weld.
you need to put gas in it. doh.
Mark Winberry Such an obtuse thing to say. So you troll the Internet looking for foolish things to say to others............get a life Markie! For someone who claims to be so much smarter than everyone I see you have posted nothing. No videos. Just your imbecile remarks.
BlondeExplorer1 jeez, lighten up it was a joke. And where do I claim to be smarter than everyone?
Fuck up a new mower. Good job.
Very good. I did about the same thing 15 years ago with a Lawn Boy. I used a half inch impact drive.
Someting good to use instead of a half inch extension rod, is an old hexagonal punch. Electric drill and its chuck like hexagonal shaft. The end going in the socket, where it will be welded, could have to be grinded accordingly...
You have to use at least an 18 Volt drill to get my wife going.
Golden
So... do you have an 18V drill, or do you have to borrow the neighbour's tool?
Mike Allan My neighbor Tyrone lets me borrow his.
LOL
littleteethkeith hell my wife shut down on me 20 years ago and 220 volts won't turn her over. Lol
Screw all the negative commenters. This is a great idea.
Well done and a good video. Seems obvious now - why didn't I think of it before?!
can i mount the drill on the side of handle bars and weld some extention and swevels down to the starting bolt ? make it alot easier for them stop and goes.! ?
I got a recoil for a brigs 3.5 off of ebay for 12 dollars and I didn't have to buy the shroud/cover, just rope and the little round metal piece that house the spring. Got it in the mail, got out my pop rivet gun and put pop rivets in the old holes in the engine cover. works great, don't have to run back to the garge when the engine dies, don't have to wory about my battery being charged, don't have to worry about standing right next to the engine. but good idea if it works for you then great.
It rocked my world, I used this method on a hammer drill and it saved me hours of cusing and swearing and kicking a stupid engine, yanking on a stupid cord....
the older 3.5 classic, sprint, and quattro engines they used a starter clutch that stuck in the recoil assembly as you have to get a socket that fits onto the starter clutch to start the engine. as some 3.5 hp engines from the early 1970s - the mid 1980s they used a vertical pull starter. if it breaks take the flywheel screen off and use the socket and nut to start it with your drill.
wow this looks so easy and convenient, im gonna do this with my brand new lawnmower!
man! did you see where your toes were when u started that thing...lucky you still have em!! Some things shouldn't be messed with lol
No sir wattage is the only electrical term you need to worry about because voltage and amperage determine sine wave and batters are labeled by voltage because it's a generic house hold word and if batteries were labeled by water they would also have to be labeled by microfarad to determine the series or circuit capabilities which would just confuse people but appliances have specific size and shape batteries and connectors depending on what wattage and since wave.
"Pull your drill away immediately when the engine starts to avoid risk of severe injury, etc. " - Murphy's Law
You can buy the drill adapter at Lowe's that allows you to put sockets into a drill. You do not have to cut a perfectly good extension. Also the adapter has a lock ball so the socket will not fall off.
lol the lawnmowers just like "fuck it, im outta here".... started rolling away by itself
Sweet video man just saved me some time and money
use the correct adapter or an impact driver and it's a way easier diy. also instead of a bunch of those plastic ties, use a cable cuff you find at the big box stores. I use one to keep my mower going when I leave it.
I like it...learn something new every day.
I've had to resort to that trick to get my 18" Husqvarna chain saw running due to sticky return on the pull starter. Not something I'd want to do long term though unless I could obtain or engineer a unidirectional clutch so that the motor can run faster than the drill without torquing the drill out of one's hand.
Exactly
Damn good idea, looks like it will take your hand off
thanks alot!!! i figured it wouldnt work, but i just kept cranking it and it started like new!!!
I recently bought a new start rope for my lawnmower. I wish I would have seen this beforehand. I was waiting for spring time to replace it, but I might leave it off now.
You can also grind a notch in that starter cup, take some heavy duty string, tie a knot in the string, and have a rope start (where you wrap the rope around the starter cup then pull)
been doing this for years with my drill even on four wheelers or three wheelers but the rope trick works pretty good
Very interesting, good vid!
With the mower moving around on the floor after it started, I would say you have a vibration problem, maybe a bend blade or a bend crankshaft, if that is the case, time to toss that for another one.
i do like the concept Daniel but what stops it from twisting the wrist.
You think your drive shaft may be bent a bit?
You really need some sort of ratchet mechanism , so when the engine starts the drill does not whip around and break your wrist.
Excellent video very innovative! Good on you .
because this is safe...thanks for the tip! do you also remove the blades while running? thanks really need some help here!!! Very informative video!
Thank you so much for the help. Just to let you know there is now adapters for you drill to use for sockets. $3.50 for a set which covers 1/4" , 3/8" , and 1/2".
I can totally see doing this to a mower on its last legs as this mower obviously is or was. it also has a bent crankshaft as you watch it walk itself on the floor. lots of guys do this and Toro actually makes the tool to 'jump start' their weed eater/trimmers that goes in a drill. so is this crazy? No. Is it safe? probably not. Is it a "man victory"? Hell Yeah!
cool, thanks. didn't know they made adapters
I learned this trik wen I was a kid about 18 years ago for the same reason I broke my pull start on my little 49cc scooter and it worked only trouble I had was getting the drill off quickly before it started because if I was not quick I would not start it other than that it worked and I thought of that before I even had a device that I could get on the internet as I didn't lke computers wen I was a kid but a little thinking and a little work I had my scooter up and running in no time lol
Man you are good i do work on small engine's for a hobby only i have to get a little money for doing only not much because i like doing it
Just tried this with my lawn boy 6.5hp, didn't work like it does here, I get the mower started then for some reason the flywheel bolt just seems to loosen itself and so I got a running two cycle engine with no bolt to hold on the fly wheel, what did I do wrong?
Or do what used to do, cut a notch on that bell that sits on top if the flywheel(the thing you´re sticking that socket down into) with a dremel tool or a metal file then find a rope that strong, tie a knot at one end and some sort of a handle on the other.Then just put the knot in the notch you cut in the bell, wrap the rope around the bell and pull! There yah go!
Nowadays the tools required would cost about $24. You can get a recoil starter part off a used machine from nearly small engine repair shop for less than $20 or less. Add in the danger in doing this, and the fact some crankshafts will actually break if you use an impact drill or any really strong drill ruining the machine forever and you got a great recipe for broken fingers and a dead machine. But if that's what it takes to feel manly, what the hell? To quote General McAuliff at the Battle of the Bulge: "Nuts."
my computer lagged. and you went DA DADAADADADA down there.
I lol'd
I did it with a 14.4 emburer drill and it worked well on my Honda mower so it doesn't have to be 18 volt
the guy is a moron, great way to get hurt !! Don't want to sound like a jerk but someone is going to get hurt doing this!!! Be very carefull !!!
I used a 3/4" socket on my drill motor when it's hard to start and my arm is tired of pulling the rope.Also,in cold weather they will be hard starting. Use a heat gun on the carb. Works.Haven't used my rotary mower as a snow blower...yet.
Why not to love it I will show it to my dad
I'll have to weigh in on the side of avoiding the zip tie bypass of that safety bar. I know it's awkward to start while pressing the safety bar down, but that position forces the operator to stand in a safe position. It's surprisingly easy to amputate human parts with a lawn mower, especially toes....
very nice now u can buy new shoes for the saving that u got for a starter lol
Cool idea!!!! no more passing out from pulling!!!
Hey hopefully you respond but I have a 212 6.5 horsepower predator engine but the compression on this thing could rip your damn arm off do you think this would work on that? Or is it really worth buying an electric starter? Also I'm new to engines so could you help me out a bit, what is the part/parts I would need to make the engine start with a key?
You could get yourself a velcro strap instead of a plastic tie and re-use it! Well done.
Very good thanks. I have had time to pull started engine
I did this myself with a backpack blower. Worked great. Unfortunately by starting it this way for a long time, the nut on the engine wore off.
Then I couldn't get the nut off to replace it. Ended up giving the unit away. I had no way to start it.
If you start something with a drill, keep an eye on the bolt of the unit. make sure you are not wearing it down.
+Infandous Ktenology I had forgotten this comment I made. Yes I couldn't get the nut off because it was fused on the shaft.
Since it was worn down and rounded, the drill couldn't fit on it anymore. Thanks for your reply.
+Infandous Ktenology yep and it is still on there to this very day.
grind an angled notch in the old recoil pulley and wind a rope around it..done it a hundred times and a rope is easier to put in your pocket while your mowing than a drill is.
I'd like to know too. Awesome innovation! Sure beats repairing a recoil starter, only to have it brake again in the future. Would it be safe to use a corded drill? Like 3.8 AMPS?
@birdwing98 i was doing some research trying to find out if it were actually possible to start the engine by spinning the blade without any tools. Have you legitimately started a mower as such? furthermore isn't that rather hazardous?
I was going to comment that you might want put your foot on the mower not in front of it. :) Good point about the socket coming off before you modified it!
Or a velcro strap. Those work pretty good too. that way you don't have to go and find the vice grips every time you need to start the mower 8D
this is so cool thanks for the vid daniel you rock