Since obvious things that havent been implemented in lazer have been mentioned in the video, I wanted to say that there is still no option to rate beatmaps within lazer. I know barely anyone uses it, but its still an important feature
Also, to add onto that, in stable there is a button on osu direct to only show non-downloaded beatmaps. As someone who has the entire ranked and loved caregory downloaded, it would be helpful to see if I missed something
It would be better to write down each feature you listed as a separate issue on lazer's GitHub, otherwise there's the risk of your comment not being noticed.
I came back to osu after about 7 year break recently (and changed fingers I played with, started alternating, and moved from mouse to tablet at once so I am re-learning the game nearly from scratch) and jumped straight into lazer. It works better on my laptop than I remember stable ever did and it's just so clean. Good work with the updates.
Two things that bug me and have been known for a while. 1. Not being able to save scores without replays from the global leaderboards, on stable I can just press F2 and it saves a 0 KB osr file with just the score screen info, on lazer it's completely impossible, so I need to reopen stable every time I want to restore an old score, that I don't have saved in my current stable db. 2. Pressing Mouse4 goes back to the very first web overlay instead of the previous one, it's really frustrating (this was first reported in 2019, and it still isn't fixed)
4:20 i like this approach of incremental changes close to a finished design instead of directly going to the new design. Because you can squeeze out the annoying parts to get to the finished design and find possible problems.
BSS! Yes! Finally! I've been a Lazer exclusive user on my Steam Deck and I've made a few taiko maps I really wanted to have, so I'm very happy to hear things have started moving on that side. 😄
i dont know if you take any ideas for osu/lazer (i didnt find anyplace) but i was thinking, it would be cool if you had something like "similar/recommended style map" when you are in beatmap site. Like in youtube with recommended video which is similar to the video :D
Oh yea, that's a great idea, but dunno how it's hard to implement Also would be so nice if you can find similiar song like in different music services, i think its even harder.. l'm trying to find similiar songs by genre or tags or by artist but often it's just don't help
Iirc in some previous update video it has been mentioned that some people are working on a tagging system (as in mapping style like tech, alt, finger control, aim,...) and as soon as this is implemented it might be possible to do such a system
@@DroYata That can be done via machine learning techniques. Ranked songs are already categorized in osu by genre, they just need to do some extra processing steps. For maps, that can be done via graph embeddings where they do clustering methods on ranked beatmap map data. Although I doubt they would train and deploy large scale model api just for osu. Could be a fun idea though.
@@DroYata Anything "similar song" related would be a nightmare to implement, since going through every single map and judging its song's genre/related songs would need a lot of time and manpower (and you'll need to have trusted people for that, so that would mean that some kind of Song Genre Sorting Group would need to be created, because normal people can be or are stupid.). Tags are an untrusted source, since even though the tags are required to have the genre, many times it's either wrong or too broad.
@@dragonlazernot really, since all ranked maps still have a lot of things that could be used to filter similar maps (for example similar bpm, same artist, mappers, difficulty etc.) i think theyre also working on a tagging system for skillsets to filter for example aim or speed maps, which would make this even more possible i do agree with the tags being unreliable and genres being way too broad though, those shouldnt be used for a system like this
can you change behaviour of filtering maps by star rating (stars < 7 stars > 6) to be like in standard so it uses star rating after mod difficulty increase (adding dt and/or hr) or add grouping by difficulty
There are so many things I have been asking for/talking about just this week. Amazing update, thank you for the continuous work to make Lazer the best!
Two points I think would be nice to have in Lazer at this stage: 1- A way to always automatically sync maps between Stable and Lazer. This way, if I go back to Stable and then shift back to Lazer, I can see my new local scores, newly favorited maps, and downloaded maps being added or updated. This would make it much easier for users to migrate to Lazer over time. 2- Implementation of point 1.
I really hope the green color within Lazer will be argb skinnable, or at least the opacity will be adjustable on the editor. having so much solid color (and an ugly one at that) is so uninviting for me and makes me feel claustrophobic in the editor spesifically
I thought hold for pause is not a bug but a feature to not let people pause spin etc. Tho it makes sence now since pause spinning is not useful in lazer in which you can cap a spinner so easily on lower star rating maps
On the topic of "obvious features": - grouping by achieved ranks - Toggling the live leaderboard in multi. - Removing the permanent red border when you die once in multi. - Filter lobbies to friends only in multi - Making the friend tab actually update when someone goes online/offline - Sorting the recent chats by the most recent chat - Seeing the currently played map for other users Or in short: anything that is already there in stable... :|
OSU SUGGESTION: I would suggest adding map health graph in osu! lazer (just like osu!st) after finishing the map and maybe red dots or something to mark misses where they were done in the length of the beatmap?
Don't really see the point of making less of the song select screen usable. At least we had some colorfulness with the map background but now there's just a window surrounded by black spaces.
from a mappers perspective, a nice to have feature would be to have the ability to have a map select screen in the edit section similar to stable. As of current its very tedious to right click and select edit on a map every single time
oh my god i cant wait for beatmap submission!!!!!!!!!! also, can we have colorhax in the lazer editor please? it's a very niche feature, but it would be very nice to have imo
could there be an option for the result screen to show the local leaderboard instead of global? when finishing a score, I don't care about the best scores that I will never come close to - I care about whether or not I got a personal best and how my score is compared my previous ones. an option for that would be awesome
It's a rebuild from the ground up with modern technology, gets rid of old cruft in the code (because it's rebuilt after all), allows way more rapid development, it's open source so everyone can contribute (and people have been!), it's a breeding ground for innovation and it works on pretty much every OS anyone would care for. The framework that osu! runs on can, additionally, be used to make different games entirely. So lots of differences!
Im just curious, why is it that when i double press sliders (like press 2 keys at the same time) it whiffs the the circle and slider behind it? Is this intentional or is it a bug? (By the way, thank you for all the hard work and effort that you put into lazer. Keep up the fire work : D)
holy heck pishibeard
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Since obvious things that havent been implemented in lazer have been mentioned in the video, I wanted to say that there is still no option to rate beatmaps within lazer. I know barely anyone uses it, but its still an important feature
Also, to add onto that, in stable there is a button on osu direct to only show non-downloaded beatmaps. As someone who has the entire ranked and loved caregory downloaded, it would be helpful to see if I missed something
It would be better to write down each feature you listed as a separate issue on lazer's GitHub, otherwise there's the risk of your comment not being noticed.
@@kirby6548 How much storage does that take up?
The O in BTMC stands for "Oh my god btmc was in the newest osu! video"
it would really help if we can "update all beatmaps" instead of trying to search each mapset individually and click "update" button
to that; maybe with an option or something to disable updating your own maps
thanks for the free ranks peppy
nice video 👍 (the premiere hasnt even started yet)
How are you popular already?
@nagi.desuuu im just cool like that
@@nagi.desuuu hes just cool like that
I came back to osu after about 7 year break recently (and changed fingers I played with, started alternating, and moved from mouse to tablet at once so I am re-learning the game nearly from scratch) and jumped straight into lazer. It works better on my laptop than I remember stable ever did and it's just so clean. Good work with the updates.
Two things that bug me and have been known for a while.
1. Not being able to save scores without replays from the global leaderboards, on stable I can just press F2 and it saves a 0 KB osr file with just the score screen info, on lazer it's completely impossible, so I need to reopen stable every time I want to restore an old score, that I don't have saved in my current stable db.
2. Pressing Mouse4 goes back to the very first web overlay instead of the previous one, it's really frustrating (this was first reported in 2019, and it still isn't fixed)
I’m hoping the new song select redesign will also make sure that it’s actually skinnable in a similar way to stable. Would be really cool!
We love you peppy, seriously you're such an amazing dev
4:20 i like this approach of incremental changes close to a finished design instead of directly going to the new design. Because you can squeeze out the annoying parts to get to the finished design and find possible problems.
BSS! Yes! Finally! I've been a Lazer exclusive user on my Steam Deck and I've made a few taiko maps I really wanted to have, so I'm very happy to hear things have started moving on that side. 😄
1:05 I like the sound of that!
Can you allow mods to be used in test play. It would basically become a proper reactive mode and eliminate need for practice diffs
We are so lucky to have peppy 😊
Pishi with a beard is wild. Really owning the look tho
i simply did not know where to suggestions for lazer
Google "osu GitHub issues"
LAZER MAPPING IS SAVED
GOD BLESS NYANARO
Hi (I apologize for my bad English)
i forgive you
by grace you are forgiven
forgived
You're englich ease per phec don vorly
friend search feature is so blessed 🙏
i dont know if you take any ideas for osu/lazer (i didnt find anyplace) but i was thinking, it would be cool if you had something like "similar/recommended style map" when you are in beatmap site. Like in youtube with recommended video which is similar to the video :D
Oh yea, that's a great idea, but dunno how it's hard to implement
Also would be so nice if you can find similiar song like in different music services, i think its even harder.. l'm trying to find similiar songs by genre or tags or by artist but often it's just don't help
Iirc in some previous update video it has been mentioned that some people are working on a tagging system (as in mapping style like tech, alt, finger control, aim,...) and as soon as this is implemented it might be possible to do such a system
@@DroYata That can be done via machine learning techniques. Ranked songs are already categorized in osu by genre, they just need to do some extra processing steps. For maps, that can be done via graph embeddings where they do clustering methods on ranked beatmap map data. Although I doubt they would train and deploy large scale model api just for osu.
Could be a fun idea though.
@@DroYata Anything "similar song" related would be a nightmare to implement, since going through every single map and judging its song's genre/related songs would need a lot of time and manpower (and you'll need to have trusted people for that, so that would mean that some kind of Song Genre Sorting Group would need to be created, because normal people can be or are stupid.). Tags are an untrusted source, since even though the tags are required to have the genre, many times it's either wrong or too broad.
@@dragonlazernot really, since all ranked maps still have a lot of things that could be used to filter similar maps (for example similar bpm, same artist, mappers, difficulty etc.) i think theyre also working on a tagging system for skillsets to filter for example aim or speed maps, which would make this even more possible
i do agree with the tags being unreliable and genres being way too broad though, those shouldnt be used for a system like this
with lazer update treatment, my depression is reduced down to zero, thank you so much peppy and other devs
This rework made me actually get my first 200pp. Thank u peppy ❤
4:10 This makes completing rhythm maps without missing them over time a lot more convenient, thanks
2:51 THANK YOU FOR THE SEARCH BAR
can you change behaviour of filtering maps by star rating (stars < 7 stars > 6) to be like in standard so it uses star rating after mod difficulty increase (adding dt and/or hr) or add grouping by difficulty
There are so many things I have been asking for/talking about just this week. Amazing update, thank you for the continuous work to make Lazer the best!
Peppy, please send a hitman to Mrekk's house and stop him from playing, he's pumping out pp record every single day 😭
Seeing more people involved to help make things run faster is awesome
absolutely common peppy W
Two points I think would be nice to have in Lazer at this stage:
1- A way to always automatically sync maps between Stable and Lazer. This way, if I go back to Stable and then shift back to Lazer, I can see my new local scores, newly favorited maps, and downloaded maps being added or updated. This would make it much easier for users to migrate to Lazer over time.
2- Implementation of point 1.
YES, lazer was so slow and frustrating sometimes ! i'll play it more now
with the notes on loved map resets waltz o the irish should be loved again
I really hope the green color within Lazer will be argb skinnable, or at least the opacity will be adjustable on the editor. having so much solid color (and an ugly one at that) is so uninviting for me and makes me feel claustrophobic in the editor spesifically
Resetting all offsets is super useful for me because offset can change a lot if you're changing peripherals often.
i love you peppy i went from 99k to 74k in mania and 384k to 290k youre my king
I don't play osu! but I'm here for the high quality dev energy
God damn, Pishi grew up...
I thought hold for pause is not a bug but a feature to not let people pause spin etc. Tho it makes sence now since pause spinning is not useful in lazer in which you can cap a spinner so easily on lower star rating maps
On the topic of "obvious features":
- grouping by achieved ranks
- Toggling the live leaderboard in multi.
- Removing the permanent red border when you die once in multi.
- Filter lobbies to friends only in multi
- Making the friend tab actually update when someone goes online/offline
- Sorting the recent chats by the most recent chat
- Seeing the currently played map for other users
Or in short: anything that is already there in stable... :|
When You Spazza It
whenever theres osu!lazer update, it feels like i'm in a different reality.
game devs weren't like this irl
Why is the channel icon still stable’s icon when lazer is always the main topic
Lol nice, glad to finally see some of these features. Keep up the good work Lazer is great
The mouse part really got me
I wish it would be easier to migrate the exact input settings from stable to lazer. Keybinds and cursor settings etc. just with one click of a button.
Even more, I'd love input profiles that you can switch between. For Mania I sometimes play with the keyboard, other times with a MIDI device...
Make the search function in multiplayer lobbies better! Let me find a lobby by searching my friends name.
OSU SUGGESTION: I would suggest adding map health graph in osu! lazer (just like osu!st) after finishing the map and maybe red dots or something to mark misses where they were done in the length of the beatmap?
bearded pishifat isn't real he can't hurt you... bearded pishifat:
we got instant pausing now😳
Ahh yes, BTMC Reacts to the aftermath of the pp rework
Don't really see the point of making less of the song select screen usable. At least we had some colorfulness with the map background but now there's just a window surrounded by black spaces.
Holy pishi got beautiful
holy shit pishi is stealing all of peppy's hair
i need my pp to be reworked bigger
pasuing imediately and quick retry are great fixes
Thank you very much!
ill be more vigilant when trying to fins things that bother me, that add friend thing i noticed for a while but didnt thing to say anything
every day a new osu lazer video drops is a good day
from a mappers perspective, a nice to have feature would be to have the ability to have a map select screen in the edit section similar to stable. As of current its very tedious to right click and select edit on a map every single time
The like counter was showing 727, and when i tried to screenshot it has updated
I lost 12k rank so it's bad >:(
Then i gained 33k rank so it's GREAT :D
3:09 oh finally, i playing a lot of MP and adding new friends was so annoying.
Any plans to make "me!" profile section visible via in-game browser?
Pishi adjust your posture sitting like this isn't great for your spine
honda jazz my beloved
oh my god i cant wait for beatmap submission!!!!!!!!!! also, can we have colorhax in the lazer editor please? it's a very niche feature, but it would be very nice to have imo
5:56 ppy is a 10x developer??
i love lazer
please add skin update by using crtl+alt+shift+s so it can copy over the current files like cursor and hit circles that get changed
Add friends on Lazer is What i NEEDED thanks u ! 👍
pishi baerd look oh my god
please save the grid when mapping, it's pain to guess what grid i was using and the rotation after i playtest a map
PLEASE RANK RATE CHANGE
Why do you even have to wipe all scores from map when it gets ranked if map doesn't change?
Map will 100% change. If map wasn’t ranked already that means there’s something wrong with the map and needs to be change to get ranked status.
@@daniex4785 actually no it can also just be lack of bn interest in the song meaning they wouldnt rank it cause of no interest
@daniex4785 that makes sens actually
But in video they say that scores remain if map doesn't get ranked
We need a filter for how long maps are by minutes if you wanna find levels under 2mins or 5mins unless there's already one.
i will try lazer again when you make tapping keys able to click things on the pause screen like in stable
click the circles
I need the online friend notif in lazer!!
could there be an option for the result screen to show the local leaderboard instead of global? when finishing a score, I don't care about the best scores that I will never come close to - I care about whether or not I got a personal best and how my score is compared my previous ones. an option for that would be awesome
so what actually is the difference between lazer and the "classic?" or why was lazer made
It's a rebuild from the ground up with modern technology, gets rid of old cruft in the code (because it's rebuilt after all), allows way more rapid development, it's open source so everyone can contribute (and people have been!), it's a breeding ground for innovation and it works on pretty much every OS anyone would care for. The framework that osu! runs on can, additionally, be used to make different games entirely. So lots of differences!
BEATMAP SUBMISSIONS!!!
is the osu cookie gonna disappear in song select? :(
No, devs agreed it should stay. If they not, then we can complain like we did with the dot in o
Good morning osu! gamers :)
What about performance improvements for stable and maybe some bit support for lazer too
another update YES
PLEEEAASE TALK MORE ABOUT OSUMANIA IM BEGGING 🙏🙏🙏
when will pinned scores that where sv1 in the old system award pp, they definetly have been recalced but still shows up with a ( - ) in them
7:06 Fumo
Fumo
when will stable mouse keys be implemented in lazer?
Amazing!
Pishimustashi
Great but custom dt speeds ranked when? Please please please
Was i the only person to usee the stuff on the side with quick restart? Yall farmers gotta chill man, play some tech.
I miss Shift + F12. Will it ever be back?
Peppy
Im just curious, why is it that when i double press sliders (like press 2 keys at the same time) it whiffs the the circle and slider behind it? Is this intentional or is it a bug?
(By the way, thank you for all the hard work and effort that you put into lazer. Keep up the fire work : D)
Wooooo
Bruh I accidentally got +400k global rank without doing anything
NICE
the only pp update i hate.
ps. i dont choke maps