DEFINING THE EXOTIC WITHIN HIGH END AUDIO

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @j.m.harris4202
    @j.m.harris4202 2 года назад +1

    You Mikey are the only person that I have come across in the last 30 years who's passion for "Sound Reproduction" is so Strong that you have investigated all most all design types of equipment in the Industry! This leads me into the "Nebulous of the Cosmos" beyond Escapism! The Great Engineers/Scientific Mathematicians are are trying to unlock the keys to the Universe through Frequency, Amplitude,and Modulation! I believe you have the Skill Set to complete the Task and with the right concert of Frequencies you will join us as Children of the Sun/Son when the Beam of Light hits the Ground! Rock on Brother! Thank for the Wonderful Presentations!

  • @davidbentley145
    @davidbentley145 2 года назад

    This is the way my friend used to build his solid state amps back in the 80's n 90's ...Ty young man...great sound!

  • @vukiss-su7hn
    @vukiss-su7hn Год назад

    Nice Mickey, so good and real review... thank you!

  • @Valerifon1
    @Valerifon1 2 года назад +3

    I've learned so much from your videos Mikey. Thank you so much! Cheers - Luther

  • @shanestephenson8423
    @shanestephenson8423 2 года назад +2

    Nice video Mikey I really enjoyed this one. Those NAT amps look the goods inside WOW!

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +1

      They are the real McCoy ... ;-)

  • @skip1835
    @skip1835 2 года назад +3

    Really intrigued with the NAT single stage amps, 100 watt, class A - - looking forward to hearing them in the rig.

    • @adamk4716
      @adamk4716 2 года назад

      I believe it’s 15k euros a pair which is about 17k usd. There is an upgrade option for another 3k.

    • @skip1835
      @skip1835 2 года назад

      @@adamk4716 thanks Adam - I watched that portion of the vid again - I misunderstood - - appreciate the heads up - - Skip

  • @RealHIFIHelp
    @RealHIFIHelp 2 года назад +1

    He is right. With this type of gear you only have to play up to maybe 15-25% of it's max potential to make every person on earth pretty much fully satisfied. Whereas with the other stuff he mentioned it can still sound damn good. But then you usually have to take models that cost 3-5x more in the 5% of the best that they produce, and on top of that run it more at around 50+ % of what it can do.
    And the sad reality is that, I would guess that there are less than 100 people on this planet that can create an environment to do so. Well done Mikey.

  • @carlosoliveira-rc2xt
    @carlosoliveira-rc2xt 2 года назад +6

    Exotic is fine, but try to service or get parts 7 years down the line. Its bad enough on S.O.S. I'll agree with you regarding visual design.

    • @annebokma4637
      @annebokma4637 2 года назад

      NAT been around for a long time, some "exotic" brands give longer support then big brand name companies.

    • @artyfhartie2269
      @artyfhartie2269 2 года назад

      You can get a replacement Denon AVR cheap in a charity store when your old one stops working.

  • @davidbentley145
    @davidbentley145 2 года назад

    That NAT amplifier looks nice...

  • @obudaifourty9
    @obudaifourty9 2 года назад +1

    Another GREAT tutorial and demo well worth the time, and proves you points of over hyped 'major' brands. Can't wait for a demo. Thanks Mickey tuanis

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Much appreciated! Tuanis !

    • @sweetmamma31
      @sweetmamma31 2 года назад

      When are you gonna talk about loudspeakers, Mike?

  • @janulik9535
    @janulik9535 5 месяцев назад

    very nice presentation of what are the real possibilities of hifi. Hifi mainstreem needs more people like you Mike, It would help to move some manufacturers ass towards some real hifi offerings instead of going all the way by marketing. Your videos give me inspiration which replaces frustration which I was in already.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  5 месяцев назад +1

      Glad to hear Jan !

  • @paulhovenga4138
    @paulhovenga4138 2 года назад

    Man I am so very interested in the Magneto! This level of simplicity in a hybrid is so right up my alley. Very curious to further videos and thoughts on this design. Thanks for the exposure Mikey!

  • @ridirefain6606
    @ridirefain6606 2 года назад +1

    Loved learning about these brands and why you consider them special. Please keep more content like this coming. Albeit, I will never turn my nose up at a Mac or ARC pieces, I do like seeing what else is out there.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +1

      MAC and ARC are nothing special in my silly little opinion.

    • @ridirefain6606
      @ridirefain6606 2 года назад

      @@OCDHIFiGuy I do not totally disagree. Comfort brands to be sure. I have heard many things that wring a lot more out of a recording. Own gear that is on par, at considerably less cost. However, I'm not at a place to discount them entirely as nothing special. As you mention, they are built for different reasons and do what they do. Sonically, for me it is a matter of taste, and in that regard each to their own.
      My focus is to spend my time enjoying the hobby and not constantly fuss over what the equipment can do. (I do fuss a bit though, otherwise what is the point.) The gear I own, many would not consider Hi - End. Learned a long, long, long time ago not to give a shit, and just enjoy what I have been blessed with.

    • @myronhelton4441
      @myronhelton4441 2 года назад

      @@OCDHIFiGuy The best sounding albums were in 1971 & before. Something digital was added in 1972. I got a 1971 George Harrison lp, recorded from a new master tape. About 20 years later cd came out. George Harrison was copied to cd from a 20 year old worn out master tape. Master tapes can not be put on a cd to last. Remastered can improve sound, but not as good as sound was 50 years ago. So, my cd dont sound as good as my old lp, especially lps recorded on 1971 & before. There are still a few special rare analog recordings today. Cds are not all digital DDD. Old recordings on cd are ADD, or AAD. Some newer lps are more digital than cds. I dont like albums in 1972 & after, something digital was added that is harsh, not clear, & no dynamics was added. I can stand half my lps on cd. But I hate cds & lps in 1972 & after. There are only a few analog albums that are still recorded. Remenber dolby noise reduction that sounded terrible that removed the distortion from cassettes. Cds that remove lp DISTORTION sound terrible. Cds remove the acoustic guitar & saxophone DISTORTED vibrations. cds make a saxophone sound too smooth, just like a horn. Tube amps & tube microphones has that REAL SOUNDING DISTORTED GUITAR STRINGS. A really good designed transistor amp has a little natural distortion. A fourth order really good designed transistor amp has by nature preferable distortions.

    • @spooner1
      @spooner1 2 года назад

      Macs are over rated IMO.

  • @johnshaw359
    @johnshaw359 2 года назад +1

    The Magneto Nuvistor amp is interesting, can we hear it please, or can you lend it to Jay perhaps?

  • @nathan7265
    @nathan7265 2 года назад

    I have questions, Mikie. BTW, I hope you can get the NAT phono with the full-sized tubes going. My question is about the sound of dual mono in one chassis vs two monoblocks, with one wall outlet being used. This is crazy but, would two power cables make any difference?

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Fully dual mono will have 2 power cords and 2 completely separate power supplies inside. Dual mono signal path is different but still a good thing.

  • @alrasekhoon1
    @alrasekhoon1 2 года назад +1

    Mikey, any idea if it is better to have 1 type of brand on a tube amplifier or it is oke to mix brands 🎉

  • @mustang37v6
    @mustang37v6 2 года назад +1

    I see you have some Coda amps and preamps. Would love to see a video about them.

  • @brikaf6001
    @brikaf6001 2 года назад

    love the inside tours and explanations, thanks Mikey!

  • @alexandervaneijken7741
    @alexandervaneijken7741 2 года назад +2

    Sir,don,t be too shy to mention a few retail prices forthe equipment you talk about in this video.
    It seems to me the prices will be exorbitant . Do enjoy your talks !

  • @phillipthompson1395
    @phillipthompson1395 2 года назад

    I seen you had the townshend super tweeters can you hook them up to magnepan speakers and how?

  • @jaysworld5378
    @jaysworld5378 2 года назад

    Hi Mikey, Great Video! Question for you. What do you think of Canary Audio Integrateds?

  • @rewind9536
    @rewind9536 2 года назад

    What is the difference between a 300B and the NAT Audio Magneto?

  • @drde4010
    @drde4010 2 года назад

    Wow! I gotta hand it to you. You don’t F...... around haha! Thanks for the education, love your channel OCD!

  • @JDG1971
    @JDG1971 2 года назад

    It is unbelievable which high-end equipment you use..... Incredibly beautiful and in terms of sound it must sound insanely good. I know that for sure. I am definitely satisfied with my equipment. I also really enjoy it. Mike thank you for your videos and for the humor you have. We watch and listen and enjoy. Greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht and especially continue with High-end and delicious coffee beans and SSEEYYAA✌🏾😘👌🏾👍🏽😉☕️👈🏾and Paella to 🙏🏾

  • @dollarama3k
    @dollarama3k 2 года назад

    Oh man! I love those EML tubes. Running some 2A3s on a headphone amp.

  • @predragrajic7523
    @predragrajic7523 2 года назад

    Nice review Mike, agree with you totally about what is real High End these days. Also very proud that NAT is coming from my country and some friends have their amplifiers in the home systems so I am pretty familiar of what they can do for music enjoyment. What is a shame here is that you didn't mention NAT phono stage, which is among the best in the world according to some turntable constructors, but you are obviously sticked to digital sources (nothing wrong with that, me too).

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      You are correct. I do not recommend phono to any of my clients. I sell digital that sounds as good or better and is much less trouble and takes far less time .... I am about efficiency in listening to music ... I will bring in the Phono stages though anyways...

  • @jamesgotto2960
    @jamesgotto2960 2 года назад

    Didn’t know you had pure audio project speakers. Any thoughts on those? Open baffle intrigues me.

  • @The.Original.Mr.X
    @The.Original.Mr.X 2 года назад

    What's the watts sucked from the wall for that NAT GM100 160w SET?

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD 2 года назад

    Its a well thought out rig, ya got good taste, nothing to prove there. Dont wanna begin to fathom how much replacement tubes are for that beast.
    I seem to like brands who have web sites that look like were designed in 1996 and never were updated, sums my taste up in a nutshell.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +1

      $150 replacement tubes since they are not recognized as HiFi but rather Radio Transmitters.

    • @AllboroLCD
      @AllboroLCD 2 года назад

      @@OCDHIFiGuy wasnt expecting to hear that! Either way, my OCD'ness would have got me to have some wood cradles made for all the floor gear there ; )

  • @freeradical431
    @freeradical431 2 года назад +1

    In the early 90s, getting into the whole 5.1 thing I noticed all the AV receivers weighed half as much as the receivers from the 80s, and they had no power for bass. The drivers in the speakers also got smaller and the skinny tower scene began. Why would you need a 15in sub when the amp does not have any low end power. lol.Then came 7.1, and I got away from it cause it was all BS! They just wanted to sell you 16 speakers so you could watch a movie, F! that!
    Soooo, even though I cant afford your gear, I sure appreciate someone that looks for the obscure, truly unique pieces the main stream would rather you didnt know about.

  • @imosolar
    @imosolar 2 года назад

    Ocd good review and please update your website with prices?

  • @edgarmisplaced7924
    @edgarmisplaced7924 2 года назад

    Really like this brands ability to impress........really like to hear them live!🙃🙃🙃

  • @annebokma4637
    @annebokma4637 2 года назад

    I love NAT. Have you tried an 833 based amplifier? Love the look of that tube, never heard one yet

  • @202One
    @202One 2 года назад

    Rock-on Dude..! ✌🎉🍾😎

  • @Ricky-cl5bu
    @Ricky-cl5bu 2 года назад

    Class stuff love it

  • @paulhovenga4138
    @paulhovenga4138 2 года назад

    Mikey, I am lusting for those WE Clone 300B amps. Are they something you would part with, and if not, who did the build?

  • @oblatespheroid2212
    @oblatespheroid2212 2 года назад +2

    you paint such a rosey picture of those NAT tube amps. The damping factor is very low, like a SET Triode, so bass wont have good control. I noticed NAT doesn't post distortion specs, which I assume will be embarrassingly high. Cary audio played with similar tubes 20+ years ago and they sounded terrible. Not to mention cost. I will stick to the finesse of a 2A3 and the 300B. Low power always sounds better, especially when properly matched.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Cary Audio blows chunks in my opinion. 2A3 is not for me . No Balls... I like Rock and Roll, remember ? This is about how things sound, not how they measure. Tubes have high distortion and it sounds sublime. Come and listen to my rig and lets talk about finesse... your comments are completely generalized opinion, and thank you for sharing it .. ;-)

  • @shomesaha
    @shomesaha 2 года назад

    What would be your recommendation for a 2a3 amplifier.Any company that you can suggest to look at.Canary doesn't make them.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +2

      Whammerdyne Industries. (Ive only shown with that company in Colorado, and I dont know anything about 2A3 amps)

    • @mikem4633
      @mikem4633 2 года назад +1

      Look for a used Moth 2A3 amp…. Hard to find…. But worth the effort!

    • @sweetmamma31
      @sweetmamma31 2 года назад +1

      The baby Whammerdyne packs a lot of punch but you do need efficient speakers. I can heartily recommend it!

    • @shomesaha
      @shomesaha 2 года назад +1

      Thank you all.I have 100 db+ speakers.
      Looking for something under 4k usd...

  • @noone-cf2zo
    @noone-cf2zo 2 года назад

    where can I buy toggle switches that you have to pull to toggle?

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @mostirreverent
    @mostirreverent Год назад

    What about Nagra amps? What’s wrong with audio research. They make some beautiful looking stuff too

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  Год назад +1

      Nagra is overpriced IMHO and not worth it and ARC is not what it used to be. Customer service does not exist there.

  • @rickfeith6372
    @rickfeith6372 2 года назад

    That NAT amp was fucking insane.

  • @johnhovanec6240
    @johnhovanec6240 2 года назад

    I like your Roland amp!

  • @rewind9536
    @rewind9536 2 года назад

    Is it quiet in its operation?

  • @phillipthompson1395
    @phillipthompson1395 2 года назад

    Because they run from ll ohms to 30 ohms just a little confused on how I can make this work magnepan 4
    ohms

  • @thedogefather
    @thedogefather 2 года назад

    Hi Mikey! thanks for another awesome video. I have been learning a lot from you and questioning very many myths that I have been taught.
    I currently have an Ayre V5xe amplifier driving my magnepans. what is your opinion of the circuit design of the ayre if you have heard it. If not then thanks for the videos anyway man!

    • @thedogefather
      @thedogefather 2 года назад

      the VAT looks incredible inside.

  • @fullranger3435
    @fullranger3435 2 года назад

    As a sick minimalist/purist, my audio-brain lights go christmas-tree-like crazy with these new NAT Magneto monos! Well, these do look like the real deal! What an idea and what a build philosophy and quality! My only question: Is that a fan, back left, behind the nice spiral heatsink?

    • @obudaifourty9
      @obudaifourty9 2 года назад

      sure is................. and..... there is some questionable quality soldering @ 21:25 (blue wire in front of that same heat sink). Handmade production and design wise looks a KILLER

    • @fullranger3435
      @fullranger3435 2 года назад

      @@obudaifourty9 I think this (double?) lesser quality soldering rather goes to the damned fan, so, no problem. I'm more concerned about the fan itself as well as its power feeding.

    • @obudaifourty9
      @obudaifourty9 2 года назад

      Yes I totally agree, but still a hasty job so obviously seen on a exiting new design with point to point soldering makes one say......hmmmm......

  • @bstewart9056
    @bstewart9056 2 года назад

    Huge fan of Canary Audio.

  • @jeffkalina7727
    @jeffkalina7727 2 года назад

    Enjoyed the "Pop Top journey. You explain the components well. Why not do a Jeff Rowland Interview?

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +1

      Jeff rarely if ever, does interviews any more. Neither do they send product to reviewers. He does not participate in the so called "HiFi Mafia". If at a show its one thing but he is a very under the radar person. He is very humble.

  • @carlosoliveira-rc2xt
    @carlosoliveira-rc2xt 2 года назад +3

    Using chassis as a heatsink is as old as you.

  • @johnhovanec6240
    @johnhovanec6240 2 года назад

    I can't speak for Macintosh or audio research, I never even heard what they sound like or let alone see in person.

  • @noone-cf2zo
    @noone-cf2zo 2 года назад

    did you say $100,000 for the NAT mono blocks?

  • @MrEvhel83
    @MrEvhel83 2 года назад

    Price for NAT Magneto?

  • @derreckgilmore9422
    @derreckgilmore9422 2 года назад

    "Sending out an SOS"...my bank declined a second mortgage for the purchase of an Exotic Modern-Iron FM-broadcasting Gnat-Zapper Heirloom HiFi Rig...guess they didn't get the message in a bottle!

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      OK Bro, we get you dont understand our hobby. I dont understand your Sports Memorabilia or beer can collection, or any collectible thing for that matter, or expensive clothes, or freaking Jewelry for chrissakes, or Alcohol in any form, any Drug really ... what a waste of money...

    • @derreckgilmore9422
      @derreckgilmore9422 2 года назад

      @@OCDHIFiGuy On the contrary, mon ami...I understand "our hobby" only too well! For over 43 years I've been an 'avid audiophile', having owned Audio Research, PS Audio, Quad, Linn, Musical Fidelity, etc ad nauseam. Currently I own a modest, simple 'mid-fi' system, properly set up in a good room with tube traps, a system that provides me many hours of musical enjoyment. I own a collection of amazing music that most audiophiles are unaware of, & would be utterly blown away by.
      As a music lover, musician, music producer with 2 CDs published, it's all about the music. When I sarcastically jest & poke fun at the hifi "hobby" it's because I've distanced myself far enough from it to see it clearly for what it can become...a never-ending neurotic search for the elusive Audio Holy Grail, an obsessive slide down a slippery slope into the Abyss of Insanity, at the ruinous expense of hundreds of thousands of dollars, marriages, homes, and mental health lost.
      Several decades ago an audiophile buddy of mine went quite literally insane after being convinced the capacitors in his power amp needed to be encased in bees' wax...he sold his rig (very expensive at the time), and last I heard he listens to music through a laptop only.
      There's another well known 'hifi dude' hosting his own channel on RUclips, and I feel genuinely sorry for him, because he will never, EVER be happy!

  • @darkroom8317
    @darkroom8317 2 года назад

    I think the best looking gear ⚙️ on the market that I consider heirloom quality would be the new Vinnie Rossi Brama line. Absolutely stunning, though I can’t afford any of it. I also Like the new Arc stuff. Again, I can’t afford them, though I can afford used Mcintosh & used Pass Labs & used Arc. Which is fine by me. Are they as pretty? No, but I like the sound of the ARC, then the Pass Labs & then the McIntosh in that order for my soon to be Maggies 1.7i’s. I wish I could afford the JR 625, but it’s out of my ball bark. BTW, I am an aircraft electrician & the do use this toggle switches all over the cockpit for safety sakes. It can get bumpy up there & you don’t want an accidental switch mishap & 35,000 feet! Thanks for the video

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback !

  • @jonkulesa9001
    @jonkulesa9001 2 года назад

    I'm new here. What's the name of your store? web site?

  • @rondog5440
    @rondog5440 2 года назад

    Your rig is very trick… BUT those chairs you are sitting on really look dialed in! Lol

  • @rewind9536
    @rewind9536 2 года назад

    20:20 If you ever tried military graded toilet paper, you would know the true meaning of military graded.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Same with the food in cans !

  • @MSw-ht9xm
    @MSw-ht9xm 2 года назад +1

    "Interesting"..... Dr.Spock 😛

  • @ptg01
    @ptg01 2 года назад

    ZOTL ? Like David Berning ???

  • @johngordon1175
    @johngordon1175 2 года назад

    Musical fidelity?

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Not my thing.... OK Brand however... Like PS Audio... same basket with Cary, Parasound, Etc.

  • @JoãoCarlos-72
    @JoãoCarlos-72 2 года назад

    Killer gear !!! … another smashing hi-fi lesson 💥 Thank you Mikey for sharing your knowledge 🙏

  • @urbantone
    @urbantone 2 года назад

    Excellent but Czechoslovakia dissolved in 1992 to Czechia and Slovakia
    Czechia has the best beers in the world
    Cheers mate

  • @hilde45
    @hilde45 2 года назад +1

    Clear and very radically opposed distinctions -- "heirloom quality" "separate strata" (what you sell) vs "same old shiz/crap" (what other dealers sell). How could anyone want typical shiz or crap after seeing your stuff?

  • @sloboat55
    @sloboat55 2 года назад

    Morning Mikey

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Top O' the mornin' to ya' !

    • @bertthefirst26
      @bertthefirst26 2 года назад

      @@OCDHIFiGuy Thanks for your videos. Can you please show us whats inside the GM-100 amp?

    • @sanmiguel4019
      @sanmiguel4019 2 года назад

      @@bertthefirst26 Were you not watching, he said he sold them!

  • @mornecoetzee735
    @mornecoetzee735 2 года назад

    What no Mark Levinson.......

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      No. Onl;y his old stuff was good. MLAS. After that mark was no longer there and it became corporate HiFi... no soul ..

  • @garth56
    @garth56 2 года назад

    Power is not the whole story.. I had a GM70SE pair running at 50W.. SE amps don't control the bass anywhere near as much as a solid state, pp's do a little better. So it's not about power it's damping and most or all valve gear is rubbish when it comes to solid state in this area!!!

    • @henni1964
      @henni1964 2 года назад +1

      Correct. The passive crossovers of the speakers eat up a lot of energy and signal details. If you combine e.g. an EL34 Single Ended amp with speakers without crossovers (e.g. 3a audiodesign MM monitors from France; now made in Canada) and complement the SE tube amp with a pair of (REL) subs, you do get pretty nice results in my experience. Beautiful music in spades which i believe no solid state amp alone is capable of, regardless its price. I do agree with Mikey, that the single tube amps are the best sounding! 😀

  • @RJ_Chicago
    @RJ_Chicago 2 года назад

    Hi Mike, While I am developing my relationship with the Jeff Rowland Design design, and while the 625 S2 is a nice looking and powerful amp, But the 625 S2 is a class AB design. I am not knowledgeable enough about the JRD class AB design. But as you know there are tons of companies making powerful Class AB amps. I would think that his most powerful Class D, would really be the epitome of style and innovative unique circuitry. Class D has improved greatly and JRD has been part of that evolution. Plus his units are great looking.

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад +1

      Jeff designs the most advanced A/B amps out there. Everyone else regurgitates the 80s. Jeff designs his A/B 100% front to back. Class D uses modules so Jeff designs about 35% of those amps. I still find them better than others but I like the texture and harmonic density of an A/B..

  • @EddyTeetree
    @EddyTeetree 2 года назад

    Yep exotic and unique. Sounds far more profitable. 🤡

    • @OCDHIFiGuy
      @OCDHIFiGuy  2 года назад

      Think again, I dont pick those brands. Those 805 amps are made in Europe not shitty China and I just sold the 120Watt pair for $4K .... These are the deals my peeps get... No Bozos allowed..