The sonic characters that are all compared to the saiyans in dragonballz are all the same species that being hedgehog and knuckles not being a hedgehog but still being compared to a dragonballz character carries traits from picolo who is a namekian
What’s really cool is the Easter egg cheat code in Sonic Mania! At the level select screen, if you play the songs 9-0-0-1 in that order, it gives you all of Sonics abilities!! (Drop dash, insta-shield, Peel-out) #itsOver9000!!!!
The opening and closing animations from Sonic CD were also done by Toei Animation, the studio that makes the Dragon Ball anime! EDIT: My mistake, it was actually done by Studio Junio ;3;
Did you know, that when they were making silver, the creators directly took inspiration from trunks from dbz, including his backstory (apocalyptic future) and characteristics (serious, wants to prevent bad future etc.)
@@chaomix Hey dude loved the video two most awesome series I've had the pleasure of playing/watching and speaking of which have you ever seen the Sonic games stories in japanese they are really good check them out if you haven't I got them from this channel ruclips.net/p/PLbIN7v5nv4aNEpa7YCLyOHL1A85ECjfR9
I wouldn't try to disprove Sega was aping DBZ, they surely were, but to begin with it wasn't nearly very original what DBZ had to rip off from. The son Gokuu legend is THE pervasive fantasy setting in Japan, so a lot of the tone was typical in ALL Japanese media. Then there's Super Sonic, but that's also is arguable. Like, "yellow" is literally "kiiro" or "ki color" in Japanese. Any power-up is easy to signify first as a color change, and, the yellow color is about as obvious as blue electricity would be in the west, but we don't say that Sonic Movie rips off Back To The Future. They are just both examples of kinda going for the obvious thing.
In an old DBZ movie, there was a False Super Saiyan that looks kinda like Dark Sonic (darker hair/spines then the normal super form, blank pupils, very angry) as well as some "Rage mode" transformations later on
@@NeedyBoBeedy yes although what I meant was both Dark Sonic and Goku Black are evil versions of the protagonist that have the color black in their designs. I wasn't talking about transformations.
Janemba, would be the movie, and that "dark form" is indeed called "false super saiyan" or "incomplete super saiyan". The reason it exists are many, but that specific scene in the Janemba movie was just bad communication in the production, he was supposed to be a normal super saiyan. It was either that or they delibrately chose that so Goku wouldn't become ssj before his fight with Pikkon, I can't remember which, but the reason it was called false super saiyan is because Goku enters a similarly unfinished ssj transformation in the Lord Slug movie. However, not a single Dragon Ball Z movie (except maybe the Bojack one) is chronologically possible. All of them assume certain events in DBZ did not happen or are happening simultaneously, and Z Broly no diffs Cell, despite happening at the same time and Goku killing Broly with a mini spirit punch
...I'm a little surprised you didn't point out the similar approach to Sonic and Kid Goku's character designs (soft round shapes for the body contrasted against sharp angular shapes for the hair)
Sorta late, but Namekians and Echidnas are EXTREMELY similar. Two tribal races, both the soul protector of 7 mystical items, and only one member of their race is still on earth today and a part of the main cast.
The stigma around 06 and evolution are quite similar in both fanbases. Not to mention that both tried to capitalize on the first title in their series.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Sonic: Nazo Unleashed by ChakaX. A great fan-made movie really based around DBZ. Or at least the fights are. Super excited for squeal!
8:35 another thing to add to that though it’s more of an headcanon thing. Ian Flynn basically said that he believed Shadow and Amy would hook up like how Vegeta and Bulma did and Silver was their descendant.
Lol I didn't know that, I always thought Shadow and Rouge would make more sense in terms of Silver's features- white fur and tan skin, plus the eye shape... And also them already being more familiar with each other I guess
@@pastelbird that’s actually my headcanon too for basically those reasons exactly. That and their relationship definitely reminds me of Vegeta and Bulma’s pre Cell Arc.
The closest to a crossover we ever had between these 2 series was when Sonic was promoting Dragon Ball Z Kai on 4Kids... Thank you Sonic, I now know that piccolo is actually saiyan after ALL these years.
Im kinda disapointed, because none of those things were obscure except the eye thing. I was hoping to hear some new points but those that you spoke about in this video are brought up in every discussion regarding the two series. That along with things like amy being chi chi, the babylon rouges being the androids, the super emeralds being the parallels to the namekian dragon balls, the hyper form being a reference to KaioKen x100 / super sayian 2 etc.
You know, there have actually been several what ifs of What if the Sonic universe and the Dragon Ball universe were one universe. I’m even making my own one.
@@dspeedYT Classic. You can find it on Hulu. You might be able to watch on Netflix if you're in Japan. You can also find it on 9anime, an anime streaming site. There will be a couple risque ads, but you can find all things dragon ball on it. If you prefer sub, you can watch it in sub, and vice versa. Once you've finished that, watch Z. It recently was put on Hulu, but if you don't have that, or aren't in Japan, you can find it on 9anime. Dragon Ball Super is there too. P.S. Don't let anyone know that you're watching it for the first time. Act like you're rewatching it so the Dragon Ball community doesn't attack you. Good luck!
Shadow was always compared to Vegeta even before the writers of Colors took over. I never understood why folks of today act like it's a new thing. Good work as always.
Chaos Emeralds - and Super Sonic - being tied to the plot... remember when that was a thing? At least there's that fan radio drama Sonic and Tails R - featuring Ryan Drummond and Mike Pollock - that bring them back, and put importance on them for the first time since Unleashed. Yes they were also in Generations, but that barely had a plot, being instead more focused on being a greatest hits. There was also this I remember seeing that shows the Black Goku arc from Dragon Ball Super is basically just Sonic 06 ruclips.net/video/xeedLpFBt80/видео.html
In Sonic Adventure when you charge up the light dash and Sonic glows blue that always reminded me of the Kaioken. I guess it works considering it upgrades during the game into a fast attack.
In Night of The Werehog, Sonic is already on the ground in one scene, but transforms into the Werehog by looking at the moon. Continuity error maybe, but still a connection to Saiyans and the Great Ape form they unwillingly change into.
Like you, I am a big fan of both the Sonic franchise AND the Dragonball franchise since my childhood years. Also like you, the Sonic franchise and the Dragonball franchise influenced my art as a child. Furthermore, there was another obscure similarity between the Sonic franchise and the Dragonball franchise that you didn't mention in this video and that similarity is that Freeza in his first form travels in a flying machine similar to the flying machine that Eggman travels in (especially in the classic Sonic games for the Sega Genesis).
I like pointing out Neo Metal Sonic and Cell, and even Heroes and the Android+Cell Saga as a whole. Metal scans and copies the abilities of Sonic, Shadow, and Chaos (through Froggy and Chocola), and Cell was created with the DNA of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Freeza. Both were created by archetypical mad scientists to be their ultimate creations, and while it was a different creation for Gero, both were betrayed by their own creations. Hell, both Metal Overlord and Super Perfect Cell couldn’t be defeated by the protagonist by themselves, with Super Sonic needing Tails and Knuckles while Gohan was stalemating against Cell until not only Goku’s otherworldly motivation, but Cell getting distracted momentarily by Vegeta during the Kamehameha clash.
The first time I seen Dragon Ball Z I have noticed the smaltites with Sonic the Hedgehog, granted Dragon Ball came out before Sonic but you know. Because Sonic is compared to Dragon Ball I thought that Sonic works better as a Shonen series rather than have JRPG and Saturday Morning Cartoon plots, One of My favorite Sonic fans animation is Sonic Nazo Unleashed and how Chakra X took inspiration from Dragon Ball and applied it to Sonic such as the fast pace combat and the fact that Sonic and Shadow can fuse into Shadic. Here's a bit of fun fact The Character Monkey Khan/Ken Khan from the Archie comics is based off of Sun Wukong and Dragon Ball was a huge inspiration from Journey to the West.
Sonic 3 eyes are a glitch as a developer said (can’t remember who rn) classic super sonic always had black eyes look at the sonic 3 ending he has a black eyes in his full ending art
i loved watching dbz videos before sleep i loved watching sonic videos before sleep and i really really loved watching this video before going to bed this nigh, probably one of my favorite videos now!
I like how pretty much the only sonic games that use choas emeralds as a main story point is sonic 3 and knuckles. Sonic adventure 2(and 1), sonic 02, and sonic unleashed. Every other sonic game is just like. WHATS A CHOAS EMERALD AGAIN
Very similar to DBZ, they only use the Dragon Balls as a plot device in specific arcs, not all. Seems lately both series have been trying to get away from having to use them in their stories.
It’s funny that near the start of the outro he said “if you haven’t tried the other, please give it a go”. The funny thing is, why would we be for dragon ball when this is a sonic channel! 😂😂
There are some similarities between the Metarex Saga of Sonic X and the Black Star Dragon Ball saga from Dragon Ball GT. Both of then involve a major character being deaged into a child (Chris in Sonic X and Goku in Dragon Ball GT), both involve the cast being forced to go to space in order to recover macguffins (chaos emeralds and planet egg in Sonic X, black star dragon balls in Dragon Ball GT) and both involve a new ally who turns out to be connected to a major enemy faction (Cosmo being connected to the Metarex in Sonic X, Giru being connected to the Machine Mutants in Dragon Ball GT).
Dragon Ball is my favorite series of all time and Sonic is my favorite video game series of all time because it reminds me of Dragon Ball Z. As a child I used to give it the nickname "Dragon Ball of gaming".
Sonic is the 3rd party franchise to need another representative. There are 3 possible characters to become fighters: Shadow, Tails, Dr. Eggman. In my opinion it should be Shadow to break the (-) stigma on Sonic as campy & annoying playstyle. To also break the mold of having TWO spin dashes (just why did they do this?). We see a patern in Fighters Pass 2, that the characters are from the same company from Fighter Pass 1. We have Nintendo with Byleth & Min Min. We have Microsoft with Banjo & Steve. We have Squire Enix with Hero & Sepiroth. Now we three slots left. So far the two other companies Altus & SNK & third slot for fan favorite. Joker from Persona franchise which is owned by Altus franchise which is also owned by Sega. So Sega can add another Sonic representative in Smash. Shadow can be added in a way that Sakurai tells us the Assist Trophy Shadow is a "Shadow Android" & gives the possibility for the real Shadow to be playable. I think Shadow should be the one to break the Assist Trophy "fan rule". Shadow can be sort of a mix between Sonic & Mewtwo with a hint of EDGE to the hog. A character who is nearly as fast as Sonic with Chaos powers that can teleport, throw projectiles, can even create a huge explosion (Chaos Blast). This time Sakurai needs to bring moveset from SONIC BATTLE to Shadow's moveset. Make people appreciate the Sonic Franchise. Not to mention that Sonic's 30th anniversary is right around the corner. What better way to celebrate than to bring in "The ULTIMATE LIFEFORM" in Smash Ultimate.
I suppose Cell and Metal Sonic are similar. Both were built to kill the main protagonist, they can use techniques/abilities of the other characters. Not to mention that they also have multiple forms.
Metal Sonic can also “copy” data or absorb data from the others similar to how Cell absorbed bio-extract from humans in DBZ and became stronger from absorbing the Androids, yes. Then there’s the obvious similarity between Perfect Chaos and Perfect Cell, and Cell/Chaos in general with multiple forms being revealed after they absorb something (Emeralds/Androids).
I'm more of an One Piece guy. DBZ was before my time and I haven't got around to reading it yet. Sadly, there aren't many, if any parallels between my babies beyond basic Shonen tropes. (My friends and I joke about how Knuckles, Zoro, and Akihiko from Persona 3 are basically the same dude, but none of us actually think that.)
Goten is literally the dragonball version of classic sonic think about it Goten's design harkens back to when goku was back in dragon ball and for classic sonic is basically harkens back to when sonic was back in the early 90s
Which "Assist Trophy" character deserves to be the fighter? It's either between Waluigi or Shadow. Honestly Shadow the Hedgehog has a much better moveset potential over Waluigi. Not to mention that Shadow is much more important than Waluigi in the role of his franchise. I need to relive the moments of Super Mario Bro Z with all the main characters including the Ultimate Lifeform to be a part of the ULTIMATE SMASH BROS. The ULTIMATE LIFEFORM should be the one to break "fan rule" of Assist Trophy being upgraded in the same game.
I think sonic is like burter because there both fast and there blue, I also thought that knuckles was more like vegeta because at one point they worked for a evil tyrant (Frieza/Eggman) but then they became good guys, and shadow being like piccolo because they were "Made" by there... "Fathers?" and they didnt know there past and they both had gravely voices
Lol, Chaomix is a Sayian confirmed.😂 Also, how long did it take you to make that? Plus, I can't help but imagine you and Sonic Central doing like that lol.
I don't think the comparison works for the satbk cast to normal ver. Nimue is the adoptive mother of lancelot, amy definitely isn't the mother of shadow.
So we have: The Dr. Robotnik Saga (Sonic 1) The Metal Sonic Saga (Sonic cd) The Death Egg Saga (Sonic 2) The Death Egg Saga part II (Sonic 3 & Knuckles) The Metal Sonic Saga part II (Knuckles Chaotix) The Chaos Saga (Sonic Adventure) The Biolizard saga (Sonic Adventure 2) The Metal Sonic Saga part III (Sonic Heroes) The Black Doom Saga (Shadow the Hedgehog) The Sol Dimension Saga (Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure) The Mephiles Saga (Sonic '06)
And then we have the dark gaia arc (unleashed),the wisp arc (colors),the time eater arc (generations),the deadly six arc (lost world),the infinite arc (forces),and finally...the Starfall arc (frontiers)
Sonic: Naruto Shadow: Saskue Amy: A better version of Sakura Sally: Hinata (I know this is a stretch, but they are both the main character’s best love internet imo). Orochimaru: Eggman Dark Gia: Nine Tails Pain: Chaos
I'm not being defensive about Sonic here cuz I don't mind any series giving homage to something else. But almost all of these seem like similarities/coincidences rather than actually being inspired by DBZ. (Except for Super Sonic which I believe, aside from Yuji Naka saying he was a big DBZ fan, was still not confirmed to be based on DBZ to this day? Aside from the fact that it's just super obvious. Pun not intended.) You stated specifically that Sonic 3's special stage was inspired by King Kai's planet. So I'm not sure if you're saying it seems like it is or if that's confirmed info so I guess I should look into that. lol I don't think Shadow is Vegeta cuz Vegeta and Goku's dynamic is so iconic to the series I doubt they'd wait so long to introduce that kind of character. Also that dynamic is a staple of Shonen in general. And dark clone character is also a huge trope of fiction in general. Kingdom Hearts and Naruto particularly ran with it. (And Sonic also has a few clones. Knuckles, Blaze, Shadow, Metal Sonic, Jet. Scourge, Serge. lol) Silver I haven't thought about enough but I suppose it's possible for him to be inspired by Trunks. I mean... that one could potentially be super obvious too. lol He even sounds kinda like Trunk. Not by a lot, but a lot of fans voice Silver like Trunks.
@@Eminster they are , I know for a fact Amy would never marry shadow that literally destroys her character, sonic likes Amy , sonamy is canon so no shadamy
Let me know of any other obscure Sonic and Dragon Ball parallels you know!
female super saiyans took inspiration from how super hedgehogs became a thing and what made them attract fans by their sleek designs
Hyper Sonic and Master Ultra Instinct Goku both of their peak ultimate forms, and both have a hard time using them.
The sonic characters that are all compared to the saiyans in dragonballz are all the same species that being hedgehog and knuckles not being a hedgehog but still being compared to a dragonballz character carries traits from picolo who is a namekian
The moon being destroyed and then randomly being fixed
@@doesntexist8873 LOL YES 😂
What’s really cool is the Easter egg cheat code in Sonic Mania! At the level select screen, if you play the songs 9-0-0-1 in that order, it gives you all of Sonics abilities!! (Drop dash, insta-shield, Peel-out) #itsOver9000!!!!
9000? It's a mistake! It's broken!
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Impossible, IT'S OVER 9000
AWESOME! CHAOMIX SONIC & DRAGON BALL
The opening and closing animations from Sonic CD were also done by Toei Animation, the studio that makes the Dragon Ball anime!
EDIT: My mistake, it was actually done by Studio Junio ;3;
Well it was studio junio
Toei Sonic is the best sonic he literally be spindashing up King Kai's planet to curb stomp Goku.
Yea but hes classic so yea goku would kill him
@@Durpier Depends which Goku he fighting 😂
@@Temzy unless you're talking about Archie Sonic, I don't think there's any version of Sonic that can beat Goku.
Did you know, that when they were making silver, the creators directly took inspiration from trunks from dbz, including his backstory (apocalyptic future) and characteristics (serious, wants to prevent bad future etc.)
Also the Black Arc has ALOT of similarities with Sonic 06...like ALOT
@@papyrusgaming4820 if we saw shadow as goku oh my god definitely...
Also Silver is voiced by the same guy that voices Jotaro
And yet Sega refuses to bring back Hyper Sonic for some reason....
@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 sezsures
“im kinda hungry now”😂 but agreed!!! Dragon Ball and Sonic are just two goated franchises
FOREVER GOATED!
@@chaomix Hey dude loved the video two most awesome series I've had the pleasure of playing/watching and speaking of which have you ever seen the Sonic games stories in japanese they are really good check them out if you haven't I got them from this channel ruclips.net/p/PLbIN7v5nv4aNEpa7YCLyOHL1A85ECjfR9
yes, yes they are
Me and my friend constantly debate the sonic and dragon ball parallels maby showing him this video can finally settle things
How does that happen? It litteraly is what it is.
You can settle it in a bout of combat
@@kernel9066 MORTAL KOMBAT!
I wouldn't try to disprove Sega was aping DBZ, they surely were, but to begin with it wasn't nearly very original what DBZ had to rip off from. The son Gokuu legend is THE pervasive fantasy setting in Japan, so a lot of the tone was typical in ALL Japanese media. Then there's Super Sonic, but that's also is arguable. Like, "yellow" is literally "kiiro" or "ki color" in Japanese. Any power-up is easy to signify first as a color change, and, the yellow color is about as obvious as blue electricity would be in the west, but we don't say that Sonic Movie rips off Back To The Future. They are just both examples of kinda going for the obvious thing.
In an old DBZ movie, there was a False Super Saiyan that looks kinda like Dark Sonic (darker hair/spines then the normal super form, blank pupils, very angry) as well as some "Rage mode" transformations later on
I wish I could agree with that comparison but Goku Black already exists so.
@@VampireA1056 i haven’t reached super, not even done with cell saga yet, but i’m pretty sure goku black’s super saiyan form thing is pink.
@@NeedyBoBeedy yes although what I meant was both Dark Sonic and Goku Black are evil versions of the protagonist that have the color black in their designs. I wasn't talking about transformations.
@@VampireA1056 oh
Janemba, would be the movie, and that "dark form" is indeed called "false super saiyan" or "incomplete super saiyan". The reason it exists are many, but that specific scene in the Janemba movie was just bad communication in the production, he was supposed to be a normal super saiyan. It was either that or they delibrately chose that so Goku wouldn't become ssj before his fight with Pikkon, I can't remember which, but the reason it was called false super saiyan is because Goku enters a similarly unfinished ssj transformation in the Lord Slug movie.
However, not a single Dragon Ball Z movie (except maybe the Bojack one) is chronologically possible. All of them assume certain events in DBZ did not happen or are happening simultaneously, and Z Broly no diffs Cell, despite happening at the same time and Goku killing Broly with a mini spirit punch
This was very very interesting. I one thing that stood out was hearing of the silver comparison.
...I'm a little surprised you didn't point out the similar approach to Sonic and Kid Goku's character designs (soft round shapes for the body contrasted against sharp angular shapes for the hair)
Hey chaomix, can you make a tutorial on the key features to making a sonic drawing in the adventure style?
Sorta late, but Namekians and Echidnas are EXTREMELY similar.
Two tribal races, both the soul protector of 7 mystical items, and only one member of their race is still on earth today and a part of the main cast.
Yep, Tikal on her own is a great embodiment of other Namekians
@@hiphopstrongman Tikal is like dende
And both communities colloquially agreed that Knuckles and Picollo would be black if they were normal humans
My man, your videos are getting better and better every upload. Let's hit that 2K
You already know!
The stigma around 06 and evolution are quite similar in both fanbases. Not to mention that both tried to capitalize on the first title in their series.
Except 06 actually got some things right and has some fans, whereas Dragon Ball Evolution is almost universally hated by fans
@@cranehermit Evolution should actually just be wiped from history, it's that bad..
Genesis Era Sonic: Dragon Ball
Adventure/Unleashed Era Sonic: Dragon Ball Z/GT
Colors Era Sonic: Dragon Ball Super
facts
Pretty much.
No, no. We don't talk about GT.
You already nailed the beginning by using a dragon ball technique and then using a sonic adventure 2 ost, I think im gonna love this.
That thumbnail is disturbing. It looks like my sleep paralysis demon. Or worse yet, the Sonic movie version one design
The burst limit score at the end, so good.
5:26 I love this one so much, because SA2 is my favorite Sonic game, and the Freiza saga is my favorite part of Dragon Ball.
Loving all these new vids man!
I got into Sonic and Dragon Ball in the same exact year of 2000, good times.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Sonic: Nazo Unleashed by ChakaX. A great fan-made movie really based around DBZ. Or at least the fights are.
Super excited for squeal!
Plus Nazo is basically Cell
Or Super Mario Bros Z which plays up the Shadow/Vegeta parallel even more
8:35 another thing to add to that though it’s more of an headcanon thing. Ian Flynn basically said that he believed Shadow and Amy would hook up like how Vegeta and Bulma did and Silver was their descendant.
Lol I didn't know that, I always thought Shadow and Rouge would make more sense in terms of Silver's features- white fur and tan skin, plus the eye shape... And also them already being more familiar with each other I guess
@@pastelbird that’s actually my headcanon too for basically those reasons exactly. That and their relationship definitely reminds me of Vegeta and Bulma’s pre Cell Arc.
based Ian Flynn being based Shadamy shipper
Rouge would make WAY more sense
Hm, I thought the Werehog was a direct reference to, I don't know, WEREWOLVES?
Really? I thought the Great ape was supposed too be a reference too werewolf's and the monkey king.. its almost as if they have a similarity??
This is kind of off-topic, but actually Sonic Adventure 2 was not inspired by shonen manga like Dragonball, but a shoujo manga, Please Save My Earth.
A game can have more than one inspiration.
There's a difference between ripping off something or taking enflunment from something and sonic does it right.
So close to 2k!!
Meanwhile I'm drawing parallels between Sonic and Mega Man.
Yeah, Sonic is basically the result from throwing DBZ & Megaman into the same blender
@@targettoad691 lol no
@Vortical5 atleast a little... **COUGH COUGH** DEATH EGG **COUGH COUGH**
@@RamielEdits context?
Archie did it all. Blue hero, mad scientist, etc.
The closest to a crossover we ever had between these 2 series was when Sonic was promoting Dragon Ball Z Kai on 4Kids...
Thank you Sonic, I now know that piccolo is actually saiyan after ALL these years.
lol ikr
what show was that? Cause I have nostalgia for both dbz kai and sonic x and I wonder if that promotion was from Sonic X.
@@Jdudec367 I believe it was a commercial on 4kids, luckily you can still find it on youtube.
@@lightgivemepower6425 I think it was Toonzai.
i just binged watch all ur videos man its amazing keep it up!
Im kinda disapointed, because none of those things were obscure except the eye thing. I was hoping to hear some new points but those that you spoke about in this video are brought up in every discussion regarding the two series.
That along with things like amy being chi chi, the babylon rouges being the androids, the super emeralds being the parallels to the namekian dragon balls, the hyper form being a reference to KaioKen x100 / super sayian 2 etc.
Was surprised to see no mention of Tails being Gohan
@@vladc137 he's not.
No none of those characters or things have anything in common except the trope
You know, there have actually been several what ifs of What if the Sonic universe and the Dragon Ball universe were one universe. I’m even making my own one.
I guess i have to check out Dragon Ball now
You’re telling me you haven’t??
@@ghettokage6104 no lol
@@dspeedYT GO WATCH IT BEFORE ALL THE ANIME FANS GET THEIR TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!!
@@ghettokage6104 geez, where should I start tho? classic or Z?
@@dspeedYT Classic. You can find it on Hulu. You might be able to watch on Netflix if you're in Japan. You can also find it on 9anime, an anime streaming site. There will be a couple risque ads, but you can find all things dragon ball on it. If you prefer sub, you can watch it in sub, and vice versa. Once you've finished that, watch Z. It recently was put on Hulu, but if you don't have that, or aren't in Japan, you can find it on 9anime. Dragon Ball Super is there too.
P.S. Don't let anyone know that you're watching it for the first time. Act like you're rewatching it so the Dragon Ball community doesn't attack you. Good luck!
Using the Budokai 2 opening music? Thats a thumbs up from me yo.
Shadow was always compared to Vegeta even before the writers of Colors took over. I never understood why folks of today act like it's a new thing. Good work as always.
Chaos Emeralds - and Super Sonic - being tied to the plot... remember when that was a thing? At least there's that fan radio drama Sonic and Tails R - featuring Ryan Drummond and Mike Pollock - that bring them back, and put importance on them for the first time since Unleashed. Yes they were also in Generations, but that barely had a plot, being instead more focused on being a greatest hits. There was also this I remember seeing that shows the Black Goku arc from Dragon Ball Super is basically just Sonic 06
ruclips.net/video/xeedLpFBt80/видео.html
In Sonic Adventure when you charge up the light dash and Sonic glows blue that always reminded me of the Kaioken. I guess it works considering it upgrades during the game into a fast attack.
The thumbnail looks awesome dude
I love Dragon Ball and Sonic, so I love the similarities.
In Night of The Werehog, Sonic is already on the ground in one scene, but transforms into the Werehog by looking at the moon. Continuity error maybe, but still a connection to Saiyans and the Great Ape form they unwillingly change into.
Have you ever heard of the wolfman 😑
Like you, I am a big fan of both the Sonic franchise AND the Dragonball franchise since my childhood years. Also like you, the Sonic franchise and the Dragonball franchise influenced my art as a child. Furthermore, there was another obscure similarity between the Sonic franchise and the Dragonball franchise that you didn't mention in this video and that similarity is that Freeza in his first form travels in a flying machine similar to the flying machine that Eggman travels in (especially in the classic Sonic games for the Sega Genesis).
Bro same
This burst limit music is makin' me feel some type of way...
I like pointing out Neo Metal Sonic and Cell, and even Heroes and the Android+Cell Saga as a whole. Metal scans and copies the abilities of Sonic, Shadow, and Chaos (through Froggy and Chocola), and Cell was created with the DNA of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Freeza. Both were created by archetypical mad scientists to be their ultimate creations, and while it was a different creation for Gero, both were betrayed by their own creations. Hell, both Metal Overlord and Super Perfect Cell couldn’t be defeated by the protagonist by themselves, with Super Sonic needing Tails and Knuckles while Gohan was stalemating against Cell until not only Goku’s otherworldly motivation, but Cell getting distracted momentarily by Vegeta during the Kamehameha clash.
The first time I seen Dragon Ball Z I have noticed the smaltites with Sonic the Hedgehog, granted Dragon Ball came out before Sonic but you know. Because Sonic is compared to Dragon Ball I thought that Sonic works better as a Shonen series rather than have JRPG and Saturday Morning Cartoon plots, One of My favorite Sonic fans animation is Sonic Nazo Unleashed and how Chakra X took inspiration from Dragon Ball and applied it to Sonic such as the fast pace combat and the fact that Sonic and Shadow can fuse into Shadic.
Here's a bit of fun fact The Character Monkey Khan/Ken Khan from the Archie comics is based off of Sun Wukong and Dragon Ball was a huge inspiration from Journey to the West.
Sonic 3 eyes are a glitch as a developer said (can’t remember who rn) classic super sonic always had black eyes look at the sonic 3 ending he has a black eyes in his full ending art
Tbh, that's a GOOD glitch.
You're so right, I grew up adoring both
i loved watching dbz videos before sleep
i loved watching sonic videos before sleep
and i really really loved watching this video before going to bed this nigh, probably one of my favorite videos now!
cool video, I am also a fan of both.
I've always compared the Sonic in the OVA movie version to Goku. Both extremely OP.
Good video my brutha
I like how pretty much the only sonic games that use choas emeralds as a main story point is sonic 3 and knuckles. Sonic adventure 2(and 1), sonic 02, and sonic unleashed. Every other sonic game is just like. WHATS A CHOAS EMERALD AGAIN
Very similar to DBZ, they only use the Dragon Balls as a plot device in specific arcs, not all. Seems lately both series have been trying to get away from having to use them in their stories.
@@chaomix I believe it's because they feel it would kill the tension if used poorly, though I'd argue that the Dragon Balls suffer more of this.
@@sayer4148 True, and I don’t mind it. It would get old really fast if every story was centered around them.
The background music just gives me nostalgia overload.
Finally someone who understands the inspiration in Sonic unlike the DBZ fans on TikTok who Say Sonic copied Dbz and start a fight.
TikTok's a cesspool by default, not really the best place to take ANYTHING seriously.
Ultra Instinct is brought inspiration from Ultra Sonic in the Archie Comics.
One other similarity is that both series are victims of meme culture, and are blindly hated because of the memes (dang it IGN and TeamFourStar).
by the way have you noticed anything that started in the sonic series but had something similar appear in dragonball super 2015-2018
We need the Shonen elements back in Sonic games.
Shonen are not good. All spectacle with barely to surface level substance.
@@thoparchive6154 Thanks for providing you know nothing about Shonens.
@@thoparchive6154you're wrong on every level.
@@thoparchive6154 That's not even entirely true. That's a full blown subjective view on it.
How does this great video not have 1000 likes yet its literally 2 away
I knew you'd do exactly that at the intro lol
It’s funny that near the start of the outro he said “if you haven’t tried the other, please give it a go”. The funny thing is, why would we be for dragon ball when this is a sonic channel! 😂😂
Because the series are very similar and people who like one tend to like the other.
Sonic is like a mix of Super Mario, Mega Man, Dragon Ball and Woody Woodpecker...
some parts of goku's spiky hair are resembling the iconic three spikes that sonic has. do you see it?
You finally talk about your profile picture looks like Son Goku at a young age
There are some similarities between the Metarex Saga of Sonic X and the Black Star Dragon Ball saga from Dragon Ball GT. Both of then involve a major character being deaged into a child (Chris in Sonic X and Goku in Dragon Ball GT), both involve the cast being forced to go to space in order to recover macguffins (chaos emeralds and planet egg in Sonic X, black star dragon balls in Dragon Ball GT) and both involve a new ally who turns out to be connected to a major enemy faction (Cosmo being connected to the Metarex in Sonic X, Giru being connected to the Machine Mutants in Dragon Ball GT).
I can agree sonic and dbz are AMAZING
Dragon Ball is my favorite series of all time and Sonic is my favorite video game series of all time because it reminds me of Dragon Ball Z. As a child I used to give it the nickname "Dragon Ball of gaming".
Sonic is the 3rd party franchise to need another representative. There are 3 possible characters to become fighters: Shadow, Tails, Dr. Eggman. In my opinion it should be Shadow to break the (-) stigma on Sonic as campy & annoying playstyle. To also break the mold of having TWO spin dashes (just why did they do this?).
We see a patern in Fighters Pass 2, that the characters are from the same company from Fighter Pass 1. We have Nintendo with Byleth & Min Min. We have Microsoft with Banjo & Steve. We have Squire Enix with Hero & Sepiroth. Now we three slots left. So far the two other companies Altus & SNK & third slot for fan favorite.
Joker from Persona franchise which is owned by Altus franchise which is also owned by Sega. So Sega can add another Sonic representative in Smash.
Shadow can be added in a way that Sakurai tells us the Assist Trophy Shadow is a "Shadow Android" & gives the possibility for the real Shadow to be playable. I think Shadow should be the one to break the Assist Trophy "fan rule".
Shadow can be sort of a mix between Sonic & Mewtwo with a hint of EDGE to the hog. A character who is nearly as fast as Sonic with Chaos powers that can teleport, throw projectiles, can even create a huge explosion (Chaos Blast). This time Sakurai needs to bring moveset from SONIC BATTLE to Shadow's moveset. Make people appreciate the Sonic Franchise.
Not to mention that Sonic's 30th anniversary is right around the corner. What better way to celebrate than to bring in "The ULTIMATE LIFEFORM" in Smash Ultimate.
Got To fight fast
I love both 🦔💙
It was just confirmed that shadow is based off spawn not Vegeta.
That’s it I’m going to try the show
LET'S GOOOOO
This was an *EXCELLENT* video, dude!!!~☆☆☆😎😎😎😳😳😳😍😍😍💜💖💙💚⚡⚡⚡
Another parallel that sonic has with dbz is that jakks the company now making sonic figures also used to make some dbz figs as well
If you're wondering no they do not make dbz figures any more
Love the budokai 2 music in the background
Are your cutscenes inspired by sonic adventure monologues when the character talk about themselves or their situation
I always thought that the spiky hair of SSJ3 was very similar to Sonic's spines.
cool i didn't think many people agreed with me when i thought silver was a direct decendent of shadow
I suppose Cell and Metal Sonic are similar. Both were built to kill the main protagonist, they can use techniques/abilities of the other characters. Not to mention that they also have multiple forms.
Metal Sonic can also “copy” data or absorb data from the others similar to how Cell absorbed bio-extract from humans in DBZ and became stronger from absorbing the Androids, yes.
Then there’s the obvious similarity between Perfect Chaos and Perfect Cell, and Cell/Chaos in general with multiple forms being revealed after they absorb something (Emeralds/Androids).
I'm more of an One Piece guy. DBZ was before my time and I haven't got around to reading it yet.
Sadly, there aren't many, if any parallels between my babies beyond basic Shonen tropes.
(My friends and I joke about how Knuckles, Zoro, and Akihiko from Persona 3 are basically the same dude, but none of us actually think that.)
I’m a fan of all three. I highly recommend Dbz if you like One Piece.
@@RealHyperHedgehog Definitely interested in checking it out since Viz has so much WSJ stuff, including Dragon Ball
Both are great! So I don't mind the parallels.
Both suck
@@NonStopKnocks the majority think otherwise. But hey that's your opinion and that's ok. We don't have to like the same things. Have a nice day!
I remember realizing that Sonic 3 Super Sonic had Green eyes because it's a reference to Super Saiyan and I was kinda dumbfounded
Izuka said shadow isn't slivers dad 9:26
Goten is literally the dragonball version of classic sonic think about it Goten's design harkens back to when goku was back in dragon ball and for classic sonic is basically harkens back to when sonic was back in the early 90s
To make it MORE DBZ, Make Silver Shadow's Descendant.
My personal head canon is that Silver is Shadow and Amy’s descendant.
The end sounds like it’s cut off. Is this part of a larger video?
Now i want sonic to shoot a Energy ray as a Finisher!😀
the chao garden remind me of the after life in dbz
Which "Assist Trophy" character deserves to be the fighter? It's either between Waluigi or Shadow.
Honestly Shadow the Hedgehog has a much better moveset potential over Waluigi. Not to mention that Shadow is much more important than Waluigi in the role of his franchise.
I need to relive the moments of Super Mario Bro Z with all the main characters including the Ultimate Lifeform to be a part of the ULTIMATE SMASH BROS.
The ULTIMATE LIFEFORM should be the one to break "fan rule" of Assist Trophy being upgraded in the same game.
I think sonic is like burter because there both fast and there blue, I also thought that knuckles was more like vegeta because at one point they worked for a evil tyrant (Frieza/Eggman) but then they became good guys, and shadow being like piccolo because they were "Made" by there... "Fathers?" and they didnt know there past and they both had gravely voices
Lol, Chaomix is a Sayian confirmed.😂
Also, how long did it take you to make that?
Plus, I can't help but imagine you and Sonic Central doing like that lol.
Dr Myu from dragon ball gt is pretty similar to Dr Eggman from the sonic series. Both are evil scientist with similar moustaches who build robots.
Dr. Gero would be a better parallel to the Robotniks (Gerald, Ivo) than Myuu.
@@hiphopstrongman maybe. He is similar as well to be honest.
I don't think the comparison works for the satbk cast to normal ver. Nimue is the adoptive mother of lancelot, amy definitely isn't the mother of shadow.
When sonic is killed in 06 he is shot in his chest, just like goku and his brother raditz when they both were hit by the special beam canon.
Godzilla also somehow has some similarities to DragonBall also mostly the heisei series.
All three series are amazing.
@@RealHyperHedgehog Ikr lol!
So we have:
The Dr. Robotnik Saga (Sonic 1)
The Metal Sonic Saga (Sonic cd)
The Death Egg Saga (Sonic 2)
The Death Egg Saga part II (Sonic 3 & Knuckles)
The Metal Sonic Saga part II (Knuckles Chaotix)
The Chaos Saga (Sonic Adventure)
The Biolizard saga (Sonic Adventure 2)
The Metal Sonic Saga part III (Sonic Heroes)
The Black Doom Saga (Shadow the Hedgehog)
The Sol Dimension Saga (Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure)
The Mephiles Saga (Sonic '06)
And then we have the dark gaia arc (unleashed),the wisp arc (colors),the time eater arc (generations),the deadly six arc (lost world),the infinite arc (forces),and finally...the Starfall arc (frontiers)
I would absolutely love a second dragon ball themed channel tbh
Your babies? Ok
What about comparing sonic to Naruto, I always thought Sakura was a human version of Amy.
But didn’t amy have that design first
@@sanicmovie4894 yes she did, I’m saying Sakura was inspired by Amy though it never mentioned anything about it.
@@geoknuckles4629 oh sorry I read your comment wrong
Naruto Tails, Sasuke Sonic, Sakura Amy
Sonic: Naruto
Shadow: Saskue
Amy: A better version of Sakura
Sally: Hinata (I know this is a stretch, but they are both the main character’s best love internet imo).
Orochimaru: Eggman
Dark Gia: Nine Tails
Pain: Chaos
I'm not being defensive about Sonic here cuz I don't mind any series giving homage to something else. But almost all of these seem like similarities/coincidences rather than actually being inspired by DBZ. (Except for Super Sonic which I believe, aside from Yuji Naka saying he was a big DBZ fan, was still not confirmed to be based on DBZ to this day? Aside from the fact that it's just super obvious. Pun not intended.)
You stated specifically that Sonic 3's special stage was inspired by King Kai's planet. So I'm not sure if you're saying it seems like it is or if that's confirmed info so I guess I should look into that. lol
I don't think Shadow is Vegeta cuz Vegeta and Goku's dynamic is so iconic to the series I doubt they'd wait so long to introduce that kind of character. Also that dynamic is a staple of Shonen in general. And dark clone character is also a huge trope of fiction in general. Kingdom Hearts and Naruto particularly ran with it. (And Sonic also has a few clones. Knuckles, Blaze, Shadow, Metal Sonic, Jet. Scourge, Serge. lol)
Silver I haven't thought about enough but I suppose it's possible for him to be inspired by Trunks. I mean... that one could potentially be super obvious too. lol He even sounds kinda like Trunk. Not by a lot, but a lot of fans voice Silver like Trunks.
I think sonic and Amy are the parents of sliver
No they're not lol
@@Eminster they are , I know for a fact Amy would never marry shadow that literally destroys her character, sonic likes Amy , sonamy is canon so no shadamy
@@chill439 no they're not. Where's the proof? Oh wait you have none because you are just speaking out of your ass
@@Eminster why are you mad sonic and Amy has alot of proof
@@chill439 ok show me then
We need a crossover.