Dune (2021) Reaction | Mom's First Time
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Paul Atreides' life becomes upended when his House is sent by the emperor to rule over the desert world of Arrakis. His family soon becomes the target of deadly imperial politics.
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The sandworm is known by the Fremen as Shai-Hulud, which translates as "the old man of the desert". When Paul says "I recognize your footsteps old man", it's a double meaning. He hears the "old man" Gurney coming up behind him, and with his Bene Gesserit training from his mom, his senses are highly attuned enough to recognize them as Gurney's footsteps, like we heard in the training room. So it's a callback to that scene. But it's also a call *forward* to a time in which Paul will live with the Fremen and come to know the sandworms as Shai-Hulud. He's having visions triggered by the spice in the air, and so he's seeing possible futures. So he hears the sandworm coming, and recognizes, with his prescience, the "footsteps" of Shai-Hulud. Then Gurney snaps him out of the trance.
The Fremen also call the sandworm "Maker", because they actually worship the sandworms as being the physical embodiment of their monotheistic deity, the creator of the universe. When Shadout Mapes screamed in religious ecstasy, it's because she thought Jessica already knew that the crysknife was made from the tooth of a sandworm, something sacred to them, and not something outworlders would know. It was a closely guarded secret by the Fremen. In fact, they didn't even normally allow outsiders to see their crysknives, and if any outsider saw a crysknife, that outsider would have to be killed, or otherwise ritually cleansed. So Shadout Mapes came to test Jessica, and see if Jessica and her son were part of their prophesy (which was fed to them by Bene Gesserit missionaries), and kill them if they failed the test. Jessica used her training to BS her way through that conversation when they first met. She used careful observational skills and a knowledge of old languages, as well as training in what sort of religious ideas were planted by the Bene Gesserit in various cultures throughout the Imperium, and consequently managed to convince Shadout Mapes that she was an ally and the mother of the Lisan al Gaib. But Jessica nearly blew it. When the crysknife was revealed to her, and Mapes asked her if Jessica knew the meaning of it, Jessica was about to say "a maker of death". If you watch that scene closely, you see she her lips still moving, about to say "of death", when Mapes starts screaming. Mapes heard what she wanted to hear, which was "a Maker". As you see later in the film, Jessica was a capable fighter, using her "weirding way" the Bene Gesserit trained her in, so Shadout Mapes was probably not enough of a threat to Jessica to take her out, but Mapes would have tried, and forced Jessica to have to kill her (and that would be hard to explain to the other Fremen, and likely would have made the situation much more dangerous for the Atreides). But Mapes was caught up in the religious fervor on Arrakis and wanted to believe that their messiah had finally arrived, so Jessica sort of accidentally passed the test that was already kind of rigged in her favor. People who want to see the signs, will inevitably see the signs, and are much more likely to be manipulated by somebody cynically exploiting their beliefs.
Which brings me back to Kynes. In the book, Kynes is a man, so I'll refer to him as "he" and "him". I have no idea why they changed it for the film. Kynes was, ultimately, a man of science, but even Kynes was caught up a bit in the religious fervor over Paul and Jessica's arrival. He expected another family like the Harkonnens to show up, easily misled about the nature and population of the Fremen, and be stupid, greedy, and immoral people. Paul and Leto surprised him. Paul putting on the stillsuit correctly fulfilled one of the Fremen prophesies, and Kynes is shocked. But there's no magic at work. That prophesy was planted by the Bene Gesserit, who possess incredible powers of observation and focus, and they would have, just as Jessica did with mapes, be able to BS their way through interactions with foreign cultures. Any Bene Gesserit-trained individual who saw Fremen in stillsuits would notice all the little details about how they were worn. Paul, trained in such things by his mother, saw Fremen, both in person and in his visions, before he ever was gifted a stillsuit. It didn't even have to be conscious on his part, his subconscious mind would have figured out exactly how to wear one, and then it would just seem like the right way, when he put one on for the first time.
Kynes knows that the Emperor is plotting against the Atreides, so Kynes doesn't mean to get attached to them at all. He sort of pities them, but doesn't really care that much, and is just going along with the deception. He's focused much more on what the Fremen are doing, such as what they're doing in the old abandoned ecological stations, and keeping the Emperor in the dark about all that. Part Two will certainly go more into that. But after Kynes is surprised by Paul seemingly fulfilling a prophesy, he then sees Duke Leto act selflessly at the spice crawler, caring more about the men onboard than the spice, and risking his own life and the life of his sole heir in the process. Kynes reluctantly comes to admire the man, as well as being intrigued by the boy, and thus begins working behind the scenes with the Fremen to sort of nudge the alliance along a bit, and tells the Fremen to start helping the Atreides. Dr. Kynes is actually quite a significant figure in the Fremen society, which you might have picked up on when they seemingly followed his/her orders at the ecological station, and called him/her "Liet". But sadly, time ran out for all involved. The Harkonnen and Emperor attacked, the Atreides were wiped out, and Paul and Jessica become desperate refugees in the desert. But before he died, Dr. Kynes did tell Stillgar to go looking for the boy and his mother...
One of the most underrated movies of the last decade. It's a masterpiece. Pure perfection!
Who's rating it low?
@@fakecubed so many people. I've been reading lots of negative reviews over the past 2 years!
Yes! Pure perfection ❤❤❤
underatted????? what world you living
Underrated? This movie got more love and money than _Blade Runner 2049_ !
There was also Dune (TV Mini Series 2000) on the Si Fi channel. Which I liked a lot better than the original movie. Patrick Steward was also in the Original Movie. I love that they showed the liquification of the sand like what would happen. Some parts of San Fransico were built on lands which could liquify in a major earthquake. What wasn't shown is that they took the body with them to extract the water from his body. Plus, the Baron's other nephew Feyd-Rautha, wasn't showing in part one.
The weeping should happen at Jamis's funeral, which will happen after they return to the sietch. Villeneuve has said that Part Two will pick up exactly where Part One ended, with the group walking to the sietch, and since we saw the group carrying Jamis's body back home, Part Two must show his funeral.
(Incidentally, if you want to know how good Chalamet is at authentic weeping, you could watch Call Me By Your Name. 🙂 It's not a sci-fi film, but it's just as powerful.)
I read the book in high school back around 1977-78 and this movie is great, can't wait for part 2
Watched this in IMAX when it came out. Such a great movie. So looking forward to Part 2.
Same! The trailer looks dope.
Dr Yueh's goal wasn't to save his wife, he knew for sure she was already dead, but to set up a situation in which the baron could be killed as revenge.
His goal was to end her pain. He succeeded.
Nominated for 10 Oscars including Best Picture, but won for:
Best Sound (Editing, Mixing)
Best Film Editing
Best Visual Effects
Best Cinematography
Best Original Score
Best Production Design.
It is considered to be a faithful adaptation to Frank Herbert's epic Sci Fi novel.
Coming November 9th, 2023
DUNE, PART 2.
I just check IMDB it says part 2 due March 1st 2024 (most likely due to writers strike)
"its very comforting when people like him are in power, people with like a conscience and morals"
And that is exactly why he had to go.
Jason Mamoa will forever be Ronon Dex to me & this is 20,000 years at least in the future.
14:31-Finally, _somebody_ in these reactions videos knows the exact correct name for the aircraft Paul, Jessica and Thufir are boarding!
when you see the baron float, it is because on his back, is the anti gravity harness, you have to remember, the baron is too heavy to walk, so the gravity harness, allows him to float. almost like a floating wheelchair
Liet is Chani’s father
31:40 the Baron escaped the poison because his shield was activated at max intensity and that slowed down the molecular exchage with the poison🧐
it also nearly suffocated him, which is why personal shields are usually not set to 100%
I hate how dumbing down Yueh's betrayal makes everyone who hasn't read the book think his actions are pointless and naive, making for a very generic and stereotypical betrayal. In the book, at no point did Yueh ever hoped to save Wanna, he knew the Baron was rotten and would never hold his part of the bargain. All he really cared about was the death of the Baron, and he knew he himself wouldn't survive the encounter. He thought he'd kill the Baron through Leto, but it ends up being through Paul/Alia which he made efforts to save. Before dying, Yueh tells the Baron he's won, and yeah, he really did in the end - it's just not quite the way he planed it.
I know there's a deleted scene from the book where Yueh and Jessica share some thoughts. I'm hopeful we see it restored in a future Director's Cut, because his character needs some dignity restored.
What a cool mom!❤
He does not weep on the rock buttress. He weeps in the Cave of Birds.
It’s a day or two later, and the PERFECT place to Begin Part 2.
Dune Part 2 is due out March 1st 2024 & I can't wait as the movie is beyond adequate praise. It (IMO) was a slow moving movie but the 3 hours went like 30 minutes as there was never a dull moment between stunning visuals & costuming, epic score, detailed but short exposition & glorious effects there is so much to take in. My only reservation is the time delay between each movie as I hope the movie runs to the planned 4 films so that as much of story can be included because if they stick to the 3 years between releases it will be nearly a decade before we see the last one & at 62 I don't know if I have that much time to wait, I hope I do but no tomorrow is promised.
Didn't I already commented on this vid??
Anyways:
Glad you two liked it!
Indeed, the story is quite compelling but worldbuilding needs its time, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book. As to give your mom some additional info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear:
You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe:
1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar)
2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-)
3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order of women whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile
4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel
It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great Houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were.
Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood.
The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is CHOAM and their Spice Guild. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire.
So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens - who want their fiefplanet back with all the Spice - doing the grunt work for him. The emperor knows they will be easily instigated that way, certainly because the Atreides and Harkonnen already have a centuries-old feud going on between them. It's a sort of proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling).
Also, some details one might have missed in the movie: About the time in which the story plays: in the beginning of the movie they show it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG. AG (After Guild - when the Spice Guild was made and started exploring the stars), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore in the books gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD. It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date. Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's almost 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much!
Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world.
This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machine-guns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist.
That's all I'm going to say about it, because any more would get you into spoiler territory for part 2! ;-)
Hope that made things more clear!
Parte da inimizade entre Atreides e Harkonens advém do fato de serem primos....e há uma particularidade muito específica sobre Jéssica, mas fica pra quem ler os livros.....
Apesar de o uso de armas "modernas" serem problemáticas por causa do escudo, você pode perceber que Paul está com uma arma na cena do encontro com Shani...é uma pistola maula que ele toma do oponente no início do entrevero....pistolas maula são utilizadas pelos fremem, uma vez que não costumam usar escudos de efeito Holtzman....
@@zesouto3752, maula pistols are also used by non-Fremen as well, I believe (and they can be modified to fire a slow projectile that can go through a personal shield, as seen in the 1984 movie.)
@@Neville60001 O filme de 1984 não é muito fiel ao cânon....😂😂😂😂😂...mas eu posso estar completamente errado, como de costume....😂😂😂😂😂
@AniMageNeBy, you forgot to mention that projectile weapons still exist, and are still used, but said projectiles must go through a shield 'slowly' in order to impact a target. Energy weapons are also used, but sparingly; if an energy beam hits a shield, a nuclear explosion would result.
The sins of House Atreides:
Their Duke was too popular among the other houses, and was a distant cousin of the Emperor. Leto was potentially a person the houses may have united behind against House Corrino, especially dangerous because the Emperor had no male heir.
Their troops were too well trained, Duncan and Gurney had raised their elite troops to be as good or even better than the Saudaukar, which is something the Emperor absolutely could not allow. The Saudaukar being equal to the combined forces of all the houses was the main thing that kept House Corrino is power.
Frank Herbert took all the acid!
Everyone remembers the david lynch movie But no one ever mentions the much more accurate two mini series from the early 2000s
I am so jealous of Timothee Chalamet for bein` married to Saoirse Ronan!
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Another great reaction. But my geekdom has been tweaked. You mentioned 40K. Which game(s) do you play? Who do you collect? & when did you start collecting?
Anyway, I hope everyone has an amazing week & much love to all from here in the UK
I first got into 40K with Dawn of War 2. Haven't collected anything yet, but played just about every game and been reading lots of books. My favourite SM Chapter is the Carcharodons, followed by Black Templars. Favourite faction overall is Tau.
@@Flix2Us Great choices of factions. I'm a big Dark Angel collector myself. You'll know us from the Space Hulk game. But I'm an Ork player at heart. & a great way to get into the hobby. The books are spectacular across the board. Check out the Eishenhorn series if you haven't already. Also if you're into a bit of fantasy rather than sci-fi check out the Felix & Gotrek series. Both personal favourites of mine. & I have a suspicion you're already reading them, but also check out the Horus Heresy series
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Frank wrote first six the rest don't matter
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It's not exactly "hard" science fiction. More like future fantasy Game of Thrones plus heavy religious troupes. I stopped reading after the first book because the second is far into the future from the first.
It _is_ 'hard' SF-hard _ecological_ *and* _sociopolitical_ SF that deals with ecological and sociopolitical issues, and it has an underlying message too: 'Warning: Charismatic leaders (like Paul) may be hazzardous to your health.'
if thats your reason ( 10 years ) then you'll hate book 4 ( 2500 years after Book 3 ) and book 5 is about 1500 years after book 4 :D
wait till you hear about the fourth book one day lmao.
Great commentary! I loved the Star Wars references as well.