MSK1 Primitive Survival Knife - 1/2 The Price Of The Original!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The MSK1 Primitive is the budget version of the original MSK1 Survival Knife. This one is made in El Salvador and features wooden handle scales and a very nice leather sheath. The knife itself still has all the features of the original, including a very useful survival kit in the handle. Let's test it!
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It does not look like you can use the bow drill divot with the knife in the sheath. Dangerous at best to use a knife for a bow drill without the blade being covered. Love your videos
If that is a concern just pull the knife out of the sheath far enough to access the bow drill divot. Or even move it to the end hole in the handle. The other side is a flathead screw.
If I don't buy stuff ofcourse I will save money lol
Well here we have it! So many people talked trash about the MSK-1 and by association, David himself. Yeah the knife was pricey, but it's a very specialized tool. Here we have the fruits of his efforts once again in response to many folks out there. I dont know David personally, but he clearly gives a damn, and I'm excited to get one of these in my hands. Thank you David. Thank you Brian.
misdesigned and wrong steel type choosen
but the steel type was choosen by community poll back then and no expert
Love the philosophy of your channel, love the knife throwing too.
1075? El Salvador? Nice leather sheath? It's the MSK1, Condor edition!
I was wondering the same thing.
Site says wait until September for shipping..Sounds like Condor is a sub-contractor. With all of El Salvador crossing the Texas border there will be no workers left in El Salvador. You may never get a knife.
Remember the first one. Had D2 steel. And yet it was invincible
A cool trick I saw on another video for turning the screws on the handle to access the survival kit is to use the lanyard hole to make a paracord lanyard with a standard washer on it. That way you will always have a way to turn the flathead screws that is semi-permanently attached to the knife, in case you dont have coin or screwdriver on you.
That's a great price for the primitive knife,,,thanks David for the cheaper version...I'm poor but proud ..thanks for the vid Brian..
“Put that back in the storage container.” Classic!
I love the primitive version. It batons cuts wood better than chopping wood. Beaver cut batoning. Thick and durable.
I prefer the leather sheath.
I prefer the wood scales.
I prefer the 1070 steel.
Thanks David for the Primitive version.
Thanks Brian for showing it off.
I have the primitive msk1 got it 4 months ago I love it very useble and I carry it fishing hunting I love it.
Manufactured in El Salvador with 1075? I'm guessing it was made by Condor. That's still a terribly high price for what you're getting - not USA-made, non-stabilized wood scales (made from the palettes the 1075 was delivered on?), *crappy* steel for a knife that small and expensive, and that doesn't even address the compromised utility of the pattern itself. The list of $100 knives that are superior in every way to *any* version of the MSK1 is practically endless. It's not even competitive when compared with other Condor knives in the same price range. If it was a Condor catalog product, it would probably have a MAP of $60-70.
Sigh
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Thanks...I really appreciated the meaningful discussion where you address my numerous valid points with your own counterarguments.
I didn’t think any of your “points” were valid.
@@hp2114b I agree. Tops black rhino is made from 1095 steel, 1/4", with g10 scales, kydex sheath, on blade hq for the exact same price. To upgrade this knife to g10 scales and kydex you've thrown in another 93$.
The hate for this knife stems from the "only knife you'll ever need" "will chop equivalent to a hatchet or axe" and the obvious price gouging.
Designed by the same guy who created the atrocious gerber bear grylls (couldn't gut a fish out of the box) survival knife, also David's first review.
Still 37 yr old me is still swayed by David as I was 12 years ago and I find myself wanting this thing. Deep down I know the bk2 is a better option. Maybe in 5 more years we will see "TOPS in collaboration with UST and Freeman 1095 .25" msk-2" when David stops being so greedy . *$50 for g10 scales &$17 for the liners*
Kudos to David for bringing out this updated option!
I know why I missed this one. Only maintenance tech on a property of 300 apartments with 300 - 25 year old A/C’s. Work week is and has been for 1 year, 24/7 literally. I like the knife. Thanks.
out of all of the survival channels, this is one of my top 5!!! Love your stuff, dude, you've taught me a lot
Nice knife, reasonable price (for what's expected of it).
Also, doggo: "Can I haz stick?"
awesome love it ,the sheath looks nice- just ordered one came with free shipping so i'm only out 134 .00 thanks excited to get it
Enjoy it
I have one i bought at the Red Hill cutlery store in Kentucky a couple of years ago,it was part of someones collection. I paid $10 for it its awesome i love it
Beautiful Knife! I have to get myself one! Great Video, Thank You Brian and David, God Bless 🙏
Looks alot like the kbar warthog you should do a comparison video
This knife is definitely top knife on my wish list!!! Saving for purchase!!!
Great video bought one about 18 months ago great knife I have not used the survival stuff in the handle but I have put it through my knife stuff and it works very well a tough little knife I call it my camp fire knife I always take off my Tahoma field Knife when I'm at the camp and put on the leather sheath for my Primitive and of course wear the primitive until I head back out I couldn't ask for a more useable knife
I have to say the primative MSK1 IMO is the better of the 2 blades simoly because of the 1075 vs the D2. !075 is so much tougher and easier to sharpen in the field that it makes the original obselete.
true words my friend
dont understand why you would use d2 in a big blade that should do batoning and chopping
I like them both
The balence orientation, rotation and penitration device!!!!! Lol love it!!!! Another gr8 video Brian thanks!
I like the new model better but that's just me.
Great video Bryan.
Stay sharp.
Great review, Bryan! I like this knife now that the price is lower albeit a lesser steel quality. At 150 bucks it would be easier to spend vs 300. What impresses me is that David took the effort to make this knife a more affordable option. Are there any scale options that one could buy separately to replace the wooden scales? I love the orange scales on the original MSK1 and would buy those if offered. BTW I love your dog...beautiful.
Yup. You can purchase handle scales and they’ll fit all the MSK1 models.
Great overview. I assume the Primitive is being produced by Condor Knives in El Salvador, based on the steel and quality leather sheath. I've owned a number of Condor knives and for the cost, they are hard to beat. Thanks
You are correct
Are you shaving
Or Bush craft survivor
Trying to shave always gets me .
i still like it
MSK1 primitive 👍
Still like original
2in1 sheath
I love the handle kit. Now I want a knife with a kit in it. I like the wide blade, looks like it would be great for digging like a trowel!
Beautiful Husky!
Excellent review and its good to see designers making attempts to provide more budget options. The MSK1 remains one of the more interesting developments in the realm of survival knives.
Hello Brian, I personally like the leather sheath better and the "Primitive" does everything the other will do. Also $300 plus is certainly out of my financial range, but could save for the $150 model. Thanks for another fun video and thank David for making this knife available to more folks.
I agree this one is an excellent knife at a great price
In your video of the original MSK-1 you said the system was close to $500. In this video you said the original was about $300.
Also, did you ever do follow-up videos on that year long test you were talking about? I didn't see any links in the description of the original vid.
El Salvador so Condor? If so they make some nice stuff.
I think they make this one for David. And TOPS makes some of the other models.
Was thinking the same with the 1075 as well
Looks like a good knife thanks for sharing.
I loved this already and then you took the handle apart, such a shame shipping to the UK is so expensive it makes even a budget knife a luxury item.
I liked that he kept the handle kit and that model
Sorry, I'm really not a steel snob...lol, I probably don't need to finish that statement. Thankyou for what you do, and I do appreciate your knowlege
Man, I just can't take 1075 for $150 lol it's likely made by Condor but still...
I don’t really like D2 or 1075 steel. Why not 1095, O1 or A2?
I bet Condor makes it in El Salvador. Condor ought to do their versions.
It's a Condor?
I think they make it for David. But it is NOT a Condor brand.
I saw his first video and I totally agree with him
Much more affordable price.
Thank you for sharing.
You bet
I’ve been wanting one of these since the first one . Now it’s even 1/2 price and made in my birthplace country . I want one!!!🥶🔥👍🌍🗡
Love my MSK-1 Warrior.
Excellent knife! Use it all the time in the woods.
Is it the perfect knife? There isn’t one.
Is it useful and an excellent functional knife? Absolutely!👍
Great review of the knife Bryan! Nice, complete concept, looks well-built & the price now makes it way more attractive. Just read an article last week about an “experienced hiker” that got lost in CA - slept in the cold in shorts & a hoodie w/ his pack - and all I could think was why no emergency blanket, or xtra water, survival knife w/ ability to make fire?? A tool/kit like this would have made his lost & SAR experience better for all involved.
In my experience, a lot of "backpackers" don't carry stuff like that, especially on a day hike. Evenb though a very high percentage of "survival situations" start on day hikes.
I think a lot of people today are largely dependent on their cell phones and therefore don't think about, "what if"
That dog is beautiful ..stole the show.
Do a Ka Bar Warthog vs MSK1 Prmitive Survival knife challenge. That would be interesting.
Great review and a very good knife but I would prefer to support American industry so would probably go with the Tops made version but this one is very tempting due to the low price. The sheath looks great as well.
Seems like the 1075 version is the better option tbh, 1075 being a significantly tougher & easier to sharpen steel than D2. That being said 150 still puts it in the price range of a lot of knives, tops operator 7 being a prime example of another blade you can get. Made in the USA, monstrously thick (virtually indestructible) slab of differentially heat treated 1075 with a very nice kydex sheath. & it's an absolute BEAST of a knife, chopping & splitting are very impressive (heavy knife at over a pound though) The D2 version of the MSK is ridiculously expensive (D2 is a dirt cheap steel) my survive knives GSO 6 in CPM-3V was cheaper. The survival kit in the handle is cool in theory but gimmicky in practice. All well & good accessing & trying to use the tiny kit in perfect conditions. However in a genuine survival situation It would be rather difficult to get at it, fiddly & awkward to use the tiny pieces, especially if you've got cold hands. Better off just having a kit in your pocket.....
new subscriber. i like solid information. thank you.
edit: i like broad blades like the LionSteel M3. or even the Medford folders depending on the purpose (tactical / truck drivers / tank drivers). but to be honest the D2 price on this one is pretty steep, and i would have liked to see 1095 on the "primitive" version. but hey - you can sharpen 1075 on a cold piece of butter ;-)
the kit in the handle is well balanced. no nonsense filling the tiny space.
Your dog is stealing the show..
Great video on the new MSK.
Hope all is well with you and your health.
All good Doug. Thanks!
Greetings from Nova Scotia Canada & In theory I like that knife, but I'm a fan of bigger blades & in my LOW opinion, the blade should be a bit longer like NO less than 5.5 inches.
Love the videos on knives & keep em coming Sir
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I like big blades too but this one gets the job done very nicely
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Practice of skills, and familiarity with the tool makes a lot of difference. More, I think, than the extra length.
I think it’s a great knife. And I like the leather sheath more. Like to see it as an option for the D2 blade. If they could switch out the leather sheath and wood handles to the D2 knife and charge a little less as an option. That would be cool
Nice looking nice,cheap too.
WCSK still my choice, regardless of the price.
Before you knock it spend the MONTHS of research on various SK type knives like I did.
Then weeks watching others use those knives.
Then go to the channel of the guy that makes the knives,watch the updates every 2 weeks,watch his shop grow and evolve. It is an HONOR and PRIVILEGE to own one of his knives IMHO.
I like the knife :) good vidio again :) Happy mothers day too your wife Bryan :)
Thank you.
I like it . My favorite knife is the Buck GCK ( ground combat knife) . It’s my fighting/defense knife. I have a Ontario Rat 5. It’s one of the better survival knives even though the Buck can do most anything the Rat5 can . My next purchase will be the Ontario SP8
Can you do a video on this knife, vs the Tracker? They both have a similar design in the blade, and I'd be interested to see which is better.
I much prefer the primitive model,looks alot better and so does the sheat too. The 1075 steel is super tough and much more easy to sharpen in the field,and can create sparks from a hard rock. And less crap on the sheat to drag around. It is not easy to snap a 1075 blade,but th D2 is a much more brittle steel,and would not be my first pick in a survival situation.
Nice!
Un 10 para el cuchillo, tiene un buen diceño, en el encendido la biruta esta humeda.
Glad to see that its balanced lol, seems like a better deal than the original.
I love my MSK-Elite! Was thinking about getting a Primitive just for that price point. Thanks for going through the survival pack in the handle. I think that part is largely overlooked by a lot of people.
Lol. A fool and his money are soon parted. 😂👋
Nice throw!wow
Great video. Love the look of that knife. Although I don't know about the survival kit in the handle.
Other than that, it is a very good knife.
I think its a great looking knife looks hefty
Great price on the new one but still out of range for me. Just bought a new guitar a resonator guitar .... saved up for a long while for that.
Cool guitars. I want a resonator one day. Even though I can't really play slide now.
Good. It is a good knife design, even though it got some flak from some guys. The price was too high for most.
Just be careful with those hardwood handles . . .
Will you do a review on the other msk1 (the cheaper ones; the ones on the msk1p video from ultimate survival tips)?
Will Condor gonna carry it in their line-up?
Do away with ferro rod striking notch. Give it a sharper spine and a large ferro rod holder on the sheath. 1095 instead of 1075 and I will be game. A little more money'd be OK. Good video Bryan.
I would consider buying one of those. The original was way too expensive. I don't need a fancy sheath and all that.
Did you e ver test the balance and rotation on the small knife on the original kit?
$300 for D2 is insane. For that price it should at least be 3V. $150 isn’t bad but should have D2.
I like the knife but I still feel that the price is to high but other then that it looks as a good knife. if I could get on of those knives for $100.00 new then I would buy it.
Great Review! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Hullo Colleague,wich one do you prefere, this one ot the Tracker by Tom Brown? Many thanks for sharing,
Good one and shouldn't be more than 150$ either way.
Some refferal sharpness test should be on the begining of the video and in the end
I always tune in for your ending throws Awesome 👏 😎👍🔪🏋🏻♀️
I appreciate that
Is there a discount code yet for the msk1 knife?
Hello Bryan, With this new version, does it come with the small knife add on as the original version did? Looks great, keep up the good work! Be safe and take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy.👍👍🙏😇👊
Nope. This is the budget version
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Thanks Bryan, I just didn't know exactly just "how much of an economical version" the economical version was! Oh, what do you call a deer with out any eyes? It's an easy answer it coming up next, here it is: "No eye deer"! Okay now, what do you call a deer without any eyes and legs? Put that thinking cap on, give up? Okay: "Still, no eye deer"!! Hope ya at least got a grin! Being a plumber, I'd bet that it easy for ya to have dug yourself in a bit too deep sometimes, huh? Keep up the good work! Be safe and take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 🙏😇👊
Really nice. thanks for sharing. I prefer carbon steel for a survival knife. Much easier to sharpen in the field.
Nice review! I do know you did a review on the Habilis Bush Tool Knife some time ago. This knife look very similar in style and shape? How would you compare the two?
Actually, I have never had the chance to review the Habilis Bush Tool. I would like to. I know it does not have a survival kit in the handle.
1075 and made in El Salvador. I wonder if it's the same factory they make Condors in.
I hope so, imacasa is a tested and true manufacturer. Wouldn't mind getting it
Is this one made by Condor?
I think they manufacture it for him to his specs
Survival gear in the handle, just remember to have a screwdriver in your pucket to get to it.
Or a coin, or a key, or anything else it’ll fit in that slot. Life is full of challenges and compromises
I don’t mind paying for quality but the quality of materials for either version doesn’t quite match up to its price point. You can get Condor made knives in 1075 well under $100 all day long. I prefer sticking with USA made ESEE and Tops brands.
Different strokes.
Looks like the Habilis bush knife !
A little
David could’ve avoided a lot of the controversy if he would’ve introduced this model first then the premium version later . It also didn’t help that he overhyped the product like a used car salesman. Watching his original video reminded me of the flex seal commercials.
I thought his promo was excellent. I wish I had the tech skills to make videos with that Level of production. And I think if you are not willing to aggressively promote your own products it might mean you don’t really believe in them.
Miss the Chuck Norris facts
I ran out.
The K-bar warthog on Amazon is $49.65, 474 ratings at a full 5 stars. The blade is 1085 and 6 and 3/4 inches long. To me the MSK1 is a rip off of this blade. There are significant difference. Buy what you want.
I always think it’s interesting when people say that this or that is a rip off of this or that. I guess when you get right down to it every night in existence is a rip off of a stone blaad
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Every knife in existence is a rip off of a stone blade. Ah forget it. I know what you meant to write.
Remove the jimping and id buy one. Thanks Brian.
1075 mods very easy on a belt sander..
very nice video.
Thanks for the visit
Curse you Bryan!! I need another knife like I need to gain another pound. BDU had these for $100…. I was forced to buy it! Be good to fight Russians with. Thanks for the videos
Scrape some fluff with those feathers Brian no fat wood =fluff..is Condor making these?
I think so
Brian, could you do a demo video on how to use the bow drill divit ?
Like this? Bowdrill Friction Fire with MSK1 Survival Knife & Pine Wood
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Exactly like that. 😆
I thought that would post the link I guess you found it.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose yes sir I did!
Condor must make the MSK 1
Good vid. What if you don't have a slot screwdriver to use on the handle screws?? Just saying.
He’s got an overlay saying you could use a penny. And I bet you could get creative and use lots of things if your life depended on it. Including a sharp rock, a sharpened piece of wood, a piece of sheet metal from other gear, etc. Of course that all assumes they aren’t cranked down super tight. Truthfully, I think you’d be hard pressed to find any real world situations like this where you would have “only a knife.” Regardless of what Dave Canterbury and Tom Brown say. It’s really a “game show,” reality tv scenario that I wish we would all quit talking about. We’ve got bigger, more likely things to worry about in life.
@@JohnSmith-gs4lw I would definitely have the screws cranked down tight if the handle was full of tiny items.
Then you are not prepared ;-) Seriously. You could literally fasten something flat in the "pocket' on back of the sheath.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Good idea. Just leave a penny or something inside the back of that leather sheath.
My Ka-Bar Warthog makes more sense to me or BK2 Companion.
where to buy MSK-1 Primitive Survival in europe?
You should go directly to their website and ask. The link is in the description.
I still prefer the tops tahoma field knife and the tops kukuri
I like all 3
I don't see anything that my Swamprat rodent 7 can't do and do better. Especially the chopping, the rodent range has a big handle you can choke right back on to really get some swing.