Why Castlevania's Map is Garbage (And How To Fix It)
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Castlevania had a map in the show that was...awful. So I decided to make a more accurate one.
Vlad II is the Dracul, Vlad III is the Dracula. Hilarious mixup in a video of nitpicks. But enjoy!
Literally unwatchable, nitpicking permit withdrawn
I want a program to make these maps.
I can't believe this lasts forever, the "Dracula" thing annoys me, will it never end? ಠ_ಠ
This will be painful.
Pain is good.
*Drăculea
Dracul means "The dragon" ("the devil" in modern romanian), Drăculea means "Son of the dragon"
Good video btw, glad someone pointed out how bad that map was.
Man, you’d think they’d just go on Google maps or reference an actual historical map but they instead just went and deleted the Danube.
society has progressed beyond the need for the Danube
bruv
Danube more like Dangone
@@blomakranz danish uber
Well, in the words of Napoleon before the Wagram: "The Danube no longer exists". And thus it was that the entire river disappeared. And let's not nitpick on the couple of centuries that separate the supposed event...
Basing historical maps off modern day borders is the ultimate sin
I thought the Ultimate Sin was an Ozzy Ozbourne album from 1986
Also fantasy maps copying the shape of the earth
I mean some borders between Slovenia and Venezia or Carinthia are actually really damn old. So are the internal borders between Austrian countries.
@@Alias_Anybody Balkan is third party of chaos Just like Middle east, the second is china ming
@@afdalridwan3813 Ming is relatively stable until filthy Manchu invade them
Also the fact that Wallachia is somehow catholic in the show, is a funny one for me
Tbf vlad the impaler was catholic even though he ruled over an orthodox wallachia and many catholic clergy did come over to wallachia during that time.
@@Bryce-yw8hf he converted after he was imprisoned by the Hungarians, after his second rule, now i don't know very well the chronology so it could be right
Though it is important to note that eastern Europe is a very diverse place. There were significant Catholic populations, Tengri, and even Islamic ones.
Lithuanians for example were widespread across their empire through assimilation and mixing with the Slavic people they conquered
Not a totally unlikely scenario tho', while Wallachia remained orthodox throughout time, it did dabble in catholicism on a few occasion during the middle ages. Vlad himself promised to convert Wallachia catholic in exchange for papal military support, and while that never came to be, he eventually converted catholic after being released form Hungary.
Well the thing is that in the show and the games the religion is always called ‘the church’ and might suggest that in the universe the great schism never occurred or was much less severe
Edit: also do you think the original creators at Konami would even know the difference between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. Many in the west do not even know except maybe that one is Latin and the other Greek and that the RC is led by the pope and the OC is (not entirely) led by the patriarch of Constantinople
"So what's wrong with the map?"
Me, a History major from Bosnia: *Heavy breathing*
Correction: What isn´t wrong ahhaah
I don't even know how exactly you can be THAT wrong without actively trying. Slovenia and Bosnia don't even share a border and are completely different in terms of local power dynamics.
Just take a yugoslav republic randomly
I mean I don´t know that much history (at least not so specifically I could instantly tell the borders are wrong) but could still tell how wrong it was. Even just the mountains are clearly completely wrong if you ever looked at a map of the region. Bosnia is also just obviously in the wrong place. And the rivers don´t even look natural.
and also Bavaria is a city
Poor Hungary got hit by the treaty of Trianon 400 years early.
wait just a minute
there will arrive hungarians telling you that they... somehow.... found a census from 1495 showing how the magyars were like 90% of the country population and after the ottomans... supposedly... massacred them (post battle of Mohacs 1526) they imported so many vlachs and slovaks that somehow managed to rival the szeklers in the cities and...
dunno. just don't try to debate them on the topics of assimilation, population movements, history and state-religious policy.
they will give you a headache
especially on that we wuz stuff
"we wuz huns"
"we wuz scythians"
"we wuz adam and eve"
@@duxromanorum9861 oh no don’t worry I’m no Hungarian nationalist, they were just like any empire of the time that oppressed the MANY religious and ethnic minority groups in Hungary, (which is why many of them supported the Ottomans who were comparatively more tolerant) i just wanted to make a joke about feeling kinda bad for them because this was peak Hungary and the show made them baby sized.
I appreciate it tho.
@@duxromanorum9861 The ethnic borders at the time were not close to the modern ones either. It was not fully Hungarian for sure, but it was much more Hungarian than in the 19th century. You can see that on the placenames.
Or... just 200 years early. What about Michael the Brave's union? So many people ignore that he existed and united Wallachia and Moldavia to Transylvania trough personal union in the year 1600
@@sticlavoda5632 only for 1 year tho
Now I realize there's a town called "Gresit" in Wallachia in the show.
Greșit means 'wrong/incorrect' in Romanian. Like their map is.
Hah, funny. Grešit also means wrongful/incorrect in Serbian
I think you're not wrong
Yeah he isn't
@@_Jebb_ it's a slavic word right?
@@tonibest2011 yes
Oh, Tigerstar is complaining about a map. This is going to be good
it's always good when Tigerstar complains about a map
Guinea pig ❤️❤️
Personally I blame Dracula for the lack of cartography, your supposed to be the ruler and you can't even invest in some good maps for you domain
Xd, maybe Dracula save for himself the best and accurates map to avoid any confrontation or plot among his minions.
@@mariano98ify no he just keeps all the good maps to himself because he's evil
To be honest, no one really used maps for day to day rule at the time. Maps were mostly useful when it comes to naval matters, so ships traveling across the ocean had them, but rulers... no.
Accurate maps weren't really a thing then. A king of France hired a guy to make an accurate map of France during the renaissance, and it took multiple generations to do it.
@@liamjm9278 yes but you know those maps are oversimplified when you see they "forgot" to draw somekind of Black Sea.
Slight inaccuracy of the final map; the Kingdom of Croatia, while held in a personal union by the Kings of Hungary for centuries at the time of the show, was never fully integrated as a real union into the Hungarian state.
I think in my head I kept it together just like how I kept the multiple different Austrian entities together. But I definitely should have mentioned something.
@@EmperorTigerstar repent
Eh, that's nitpicking. Nothing was really fully integrated under feudalism. (Voltaire's nightmare intensifies)
@@EmperorTigerstar
On a smaller note, I do think the Papal States in the bottom left corner are slightly too large going west and are taking land from the republic of Florence.
Anyway, I fun video.
@@someguycalledcerberus9805 this is literally a video of nitpicking lmao
Do you want to see a real horror show? An accurate unsimplified map of the holy roman empire... for extra spookiness include all of Italy.
Thats “Voltaire’s Nightmare “ mod for the eu4. Its truly is a horror
@@tharathamrongnawasawat8057 How much billion states HRE have?
Me : YES
Every man a state.
@@die1mayer longist germany bottom text
Don't forget French feudalism and Lithuanian duchies
I'm pretty sure there exist a rule stating that maps always MUST be crappy, on every shows.
Maybe
Just maybe...
Back in the school days. These blokes aren't good at geography. That's why they learn cinematography or animation instead.
But since this anime is a fiction. I'd let them slide. Even if it's "based" on some real historical figures and events.
@@fajaradi1223 Yeah.
But back in my school days, I wasn't good at geography either. Plus now it's easy enough to find good map on the internet. It would literally take them 10 minutes if they cared to look.
This series was still pretty good regardless though, it's just a shame they couldn't be bothered to invest these 10 extra minutes into a good map.
We need Castlevania: Tigerstar’s version
The tiger cut
@@forregom Bad idea; he'll never financially recover
r/fanedits
Castlevania: The definitive edition.
Castlevania: a single map is different edition
While everything was wrong with it, the fact that Moldova somehow conquered Transylvania was the funniest thing to me.
Maybe they got help from Poland? Poland even took bohemia and slovakia so i could see them giving transylvania to their vassal
I mean in our timeline Moldavia and even Wallacia did held some forts and counties in Transylvania but giving Moldavia the entire region is a strech
@@glasbolyas9549 In short time period sometimes but most of the times the hungarian side vassalised them, Transilvania if I remember correctly basicly was only onec or twice under wallachian rule and not even that long and not even in the middle agise but in the very chaoric eerly modern age.
@@varisugocsay1152 Me spek engrish
@@notyourdaddude1957 You got me.
As a Romanian map & history fanatic, I almost walked off a tall building when I saw their map.
Same
As a simple Hungarian it’s even worse
As a pole, I was suicidal and happy at the same time
@@number1kenyan bruhh…
From a German
As a Hungarian, I audibly yelled "Oh no!" when I first saw that map.
Hungarian here, I immediately cringed at the thumbnail when I saw the potato version of modern Hungary on the map. Great video!
Medieval Hungary makes me 🥵
I just knew right away that the show would be historically illiterate when it showed Catholic clergy and French named nobility in orthodox Wallachia in the first epidose
Lmao right
The catholic clergy is definetly a weird one but the Belmontes themselves are supposed to be a French family and I think there were times in History where there were French nobles and royals in Hungary (house of Anjou) so it's not a great stretch to imagine some intermarriage causing French names to end up in Wallachia. I'm pretty sure even Vlad III (A Romanian/Vlach) had a handful of Hungarian Ancestors (Like his great grandfather Radu I who was half Hungarian being a notable one), so we know that intermarriage between Wallachia and Hungary wasn't unheard of. But you're right, it does stand out and maybe some explanation should have been given because French names making it all the way through both Hungary and Wallachia is, while possible, still oddly specific (the Belmonts are an exception).
@@notolecta2579 You're right. I found stuff like that when I was trying to remember which ancestor of Vlad's was half Hungarian. I just didn't know how deep the conversions really whent in Wallachia. I say that because, even today, you'll see some Orthodox churches who state that they're still technically aligned to the catholic church as both the Orthodox and Catholics represent two parts of a single church. In that sense, you could definetly interpret Wallachia as being a sort of intermediary zone between the Catholic and Orthodox worlds. I'm no expert on the intricacies of Wallachian culture at the time though so I'd love to find out more about the relationship between Catholic and Orthodox structures in Wallachia.
@@notolecta2579
It is true that Vlad had converted to Catholicism during his third and last rule, but that rule lasted for like 100 days or so. The boyars were quick to betray him. In regards to conversions of the nobility, we don't have any records to prove or disprove your statement. What we know for sure is that Orthodoxy was the state religion of the country from it's inception, when the large number of entities that existed in Wallachia in the 13th century were united by Orthodox Transilvanian nobles who were running away from Catholic Hungarian persecution, until it's end.
@@notolecta2579 The church united with Rome? Are you talking about Greek-Catholics? Cuz they were in Transylvania not Wallachia.
Ah yes, the Europa Universalis 4 map, I see
Pretty much that time frame, yeah, just with more Ottoman hegemony
Let's be real here, in the 15th century apart from territorrial exchanges in France and the Ottomanization of the Balkans, the map really didn't change that much.
Until... 1526, when the Ottoman Empire created the ugliest bordergore in history.
@@martinhorvath4117 What about Lithuania literally conquering most of eastern europe?
Netflix always makes hopeless maps, recently in Poland there was a great controversy because the document about WWII had a modern map and the statement "Polish death camps" I hate them.
i mean shitloads of poles collaborated, so yeah they were polish death camps too.
@@cageybee7221 bullshit, Poland had the fewest collaborators per population of any occupied country.
@@10hawell i mean sure if you include to population of the concentration camps into that of poland i guess that could be considered true,thought the poles still had no troubles herding their jewish neighbors into pens to be slaughtered, and even today poland is one of the most fascist-sympathising countries in europe.
@@cageybee7221 fascist had tendency to hate each other
@@cageybee7221 I doubt it.
Putting Bosnia on the wrong side of Croatia is just comical, whoever made the map must have briefly looked at a european map a decade ago and based it all from memory, instead of actually pulling out a map for reference.
He had very poor memory too...
@@kamilkrupinski1793 He seemed to remember modern Austria and Hungary's border perfectly. Maybe he played hoi4 and never cared about the balkans?
@@ohitsrusher842 So anyone making a map must have played paradox games? What makes you think he played hoi4?
@@bajlozi6873 Let's not pretend hoi4 isn't by far one of the most popular map games that includes modern borders.
@@ohitsrusher842 Grand strategy games have an extremely niche community. Id wager some random anime producers or whatever haven't heard of the game.
I literally made screenshots of the maps in the show and complained to my friends about the jarring inaccuracies. Glad I'm not alone.
I really want to see epic Ottomans vs Vampires fight
Even vampires can't beat 5% discipline in starting traditions. By that time they probably would have unlocked the second national idea too. Poor Vlad.
@@bryanalexander2508 don't forget Órban giant canon that would penetrate any castle, and age bonus
that doesn't happen in castlevania universe
@@ozandogan3971 would be awesome though
@@bryanalexander2508 lol eu4 player spotted
Love how Bosnia manged to evade Ottomans by migrating not to Croatia but Slovenia just to be extra safe. And wtf is with the post triwnon borders of Hungary? That is the most curstrd thing on map
Poland controlling all of Germany? This is a blessed timeline
Nah bruh that's cursed
Reverse blitzkrieg
Coping polish ultra nationalists getting all cocky again I see.
And also The lands of the Bohemian Crown.
@@wolfsoldner9029 hey at least the poles killed more Germans than the french did. Heh coping french constintly saying they didint instantly surrender amr?
Castlevania Map:
History Fanatics (including myself): Holy Jesus, what is that? WHAT THE F*CK IS THAT?
So many errors, Moldova in Transilvania, Bosnia in Slovenia, united Romania, basically the main sin is drawing borders like modern ones
You got polish-hungarian border wrong (you just used modern-day polish-slovak border). Almost whole Szepes and Árva were hungarian at the time (except of some polish exclaves in Szepes)
EDIT: And there are problems at polish-bohemian border too (for example, mountain range that doesn't exist)
Tigerstar fixing the map was so therapeutic, it put my inner historian back into his happy place.
Castlevania map looks based on a CK2 simulation
Not enough bordergore for that
More like a EU4 Poland run
As a Romanian, I think I'm having an aneurysm after seeing that map
eh it could be worst like actually seeing the show
@@antonioalbul00 Yeah
As a hungarian, I just have to hate that show from now on, especcialy since it is during the rule of Mátyás, one of the greatest rulers, who invaded bohemia and also conquered Vienna believe it or not, Hungary at that time was a true great power in the region with great wealth from the mines of upper hungary and the near invincible black army.
And im not even that biased here, this is literaly what is tought in books and schools.
(history books and schools are biased)
Especially those from countries who has extremists and dictators as a leader, just saying tho.
Tigerstar: "The map is set in the late 1470s"
Me, an EU4 player: "Oooh, I know this one"
me when i first clicked: it cant be that bad.
me looking at their map: OH MY GOD 'facepalm'
I’m Slovenian and seeing Bosnia existing in our territory was hilarious
What is this map?
But a miserable little pile of secrets?
You steal men's maps, and make them inaccurate!
Enough talk! Have at you!
As i Pole i am quite happy to see my west slavic brothers now under our control
And im sad
Thank Vlad and Carmilla
Question: Why are the highest mountains of the alps suspiciously close to Munich?
Alpine invasion
As a Hungarian, I'd put on a regional border between Croatia and Hungary, as it was part of the Kingdom of Hungary, but it was also a different semi-autonomous country, and not part of the country Hungary, the same way as today's Scotland is part of the UK, but it's not part of England.
l really would like to see the ottoman fighting Dracula since in the real history his arch rival was mehmed ll
Mehmed II's arch rival was "uzun hasan" (small turc), not dracula.
@@youknow8653 uzun hasan means tall hasan
Vlad was only a nuisance for Mehmed, not a rival
In the games, it was Dracula who prevented foreign forces (such as the Ottomans) from conquering Wallachia.
Give the ottoman empire a squad of werewolf super soldiers while yer at it!
8:30 theres no mountains between Silesia and( rest of) Poland, if one has to add mountains to Silesian borders they should be between Silesia and Bohemia.
PS also Czechia and Bavaria wasnt semi-independent entities but independent entities period, HRE in this era was already more or less only ceremonial entity with the nominally central govt lacking any actual powers over constituent states( the powers it has could be only exercised with support of major HRE states like Czechia)
PPS Austria isnt coloured differently from HRE on any map i saw cos it was part of HRE just like any other HRE state, not very influential or particularly important one yet during this epoch, and only time it is coloured differently is when it shows internal division of HRE and in that case other states like Czechia and Bavaria and Brandenburg are also distinctly coloured. Its the same like EU nowadays- either its coloured as one block and all states including Austria have the same colour or they are all coloured differently.
Suddenly I'm in the mood to listen to "Tepeshe Mode."
... I'll see myself out.
How does he still not have 1 million subs
This game sucks, 24 fps lock, long cutscenes, and I can’t even jump!
Ikr, this game is the product of the stupid greedy cooperation that are trying to sell nostalgia.
/s
Cool cutscene tho
Maybe Poland conquered Bohemia made themselves empire tots of the HRE put a puppet in Hungary. Gave Moldava Transylvania and Wallachia.
Sounds like an EU4 Poland run
any polish agression towards bohemia would result in most of the states of the HRE to declare war on poland
@@collegepark301 and then they all got conquered so Poland has Germany
@@dolphindiverbct8297 impossible for poland to win in that situation, and after they won, its now too easy for poland to conquer the rest of europe since all of germany will make them a superpower
That didn't explain how Lithuania in Red Ruthenia (Poland control at time) and half of Moldavia
“The concept of modern day Romania didnt occur for a few centuries” this is not true at all. Especially since in 1600 for a few months Michael the Brave managed to unite the 3 provinces under his name
@Ameretat010 thank you for educating myself on my own people :))))but you dont even know in which century he lived in. He was born in 1558 and died in 1601 assasinated by an italian mercenary named Basta. There is a reason why pretty much every city in South Romania has a statue or some kind on monument dedicated to him, calling him the brave
@@Boost400 don't even try to argue with them.. 🤣 They are angry over a map from a fantasy story 🤣 Lasa-i in lumea lor.. 🤣
I'm here because I am a Romanian born and I still learn about our history, also I grew up with stories about Dracula and so on, is the same motive that drawn me to watch Castlevania altough I avoided the series for quite some time. Later in school we also learned about Vlad ll Dracul and his son Vlad lll Tepes, and from what I know Vlad Dracul gain his name after he became a member of the Order of the Dragon. Dracula is the Slavonic genitive form of Dracul, meaning "the son of Dracul or the Dragon". About Tepes, he is called The Impaler because of his penchant for impaling his enemies on stakes in the ground and leaving them to die. But still, as a Romanian I don't see the connection between Tepes or Dracul and the mythology of Dracula 'The vampire'. So in my opinion, The show is just for fun, even if it has bits of our history in it wich is also nice for us, as Balkan people.
Tigerstar, your fixed map also has some mistakes. For example, that small part between the Danube and the eastern border of Wallachia wasn't annexed by the Ottomans yet. Many Hungarian vassals are missing, like Transylvania, Kunsag, Croatia (in personal union), Severin. Ferrara is missing in Italy.
Wallachia would own Fagaras and Amlas too, Severin could be own by both Wallachia and Hungary as you could make arguments for both ways, Moldavia would hold also have some holdings in Transylvania that I can't really remember atm.
Translyvania and the Kunság weren't vassals, they were autonomous parts of Hungary. There was a voivode in Transylvania, who acted as the viceroy and the Cumans had a captain they elected, but they were all subordinate to the king.
@@vled605 I think estates in Transylvania belonged to the Princes in person, not the Principalities. They remained part of Hungary but were owned by the Princes.
I think the Banate of Severin was founded after the Mongols were expelled, but later it was reconquered by Wallachia up to the mountains and not including Turnu Severin. Originally it was Oltenia and the region around Orsova and Mehadia, with Oltenia not belonging to it anymore at the time of the show.
That's how I remember but feel free to correct me.
@@marcc375 You are correct.
@@marcc375 Every land had owner who was the vassal of the ruler. Transylvania was basically Eastern Hungary.
I laughed so hard when I saw this map. It just boggles the mind why no one made some intern or runner spend like 15 minutes putting together a historically accurate map.
Maybe the Vampires change human history
I doubt Ottomans would invade Wallachia with Vlad in it
The map you created has one mistake I spotted. The mountain range you place on Bohemian Polish border is Sudeten, and should be place further south between Silesia region and Bohemia
The rest of it I loooove 💖
7:27
Well... okay... A few other fixes:
Szigetvár wasn't important in the 15th century, it was a little village with a small motte-like stone tower, until the turkish occupation began in the 16th century when it became a frontline fortress during the Age of Castlewars (it's a crude translation from hungarian, but it really means a 30 years period when only a few major military actions took place in hungarian territory and the main conflict was skirmishes between garrisons from hungarian-croatian, turkish and transylvanian hungarian fortresses). So i wouldn't include it in the first place, when it should have a bunch of other forts and cities.
And Mohács wasn't a fortress city, it was a village with a small palisade. The only reason why it is important today is the reason, that the Battle of Mohács, which in modern perpective means the end of the Medieval Kingdom of Hungary (actually it isn't, but i really don't want to dwelve into self-strenghtened and self-deprecating national depression).
Esztergom, Visegrád and Székesfehérvár was pretty important in western Hungary.
First one was a seat for the designated head of the hungarian catholic church, the archbishop of Esztergom and was the first capital city of Hungary.
Second one was the designated seat of the hungarian monarch during the late 15th century.
The third one was the most important city in the whole Kingdom, because it was the traditional place of coronation. Hungarian kings needed three conditions to prove themselves legitimate: Crowned with the Holy Crown by the Archbishop of Esztergom in the City of Székesfehérvár.
Zágráb/Zagreb and Eszék/Osijek in Croatia, and maybe a few cities in Dalmatia.
First one was the croatian capital city, why the latter was the most important city in the Drava river, as it had the only bridge in the river with a permanent bridge, thus it was the gate to Transdanubia.
The great mining cities in Northern Hungary as they were a pretty big source of gold and silver for Europe.
A few agricultural centers in the Great Hungarian Plains, Debrecen, Kecskemént, Szolnok, Szatmárnémeti, as those places were the local centers to control the region... Oh, an the River Tisza/Tisia as it's the main geographical barrier in the plains.
The saxon cities in southern Transylvania.
Maybe Krakkow and Lodz wouldn't hurt anyone.
And the german cities... And so much more. This map is slightly better, but it's not a fix. It's like the day-one patch for Fallout 76.
I think it's more alt history than anything else. Remember in this world vamps have armies and states. But I agree it's far too modern, and it's clear they didn't spend much time on the map. Show's still fantastic though.
As a hungarian to netflix:
*why must you hurt me this way?*
As a Styrian I support the idea of a Vampire controlled Greater Styria.
And more technologically advanced than their neighbors
At this time, was basically the last golden age of Hungary. Under King Mathias Corvinus, it had a professional standing army(the black army) led by some insane historical figures, like Pál Kinizsi, who went to battle with 2 huge swords in hand. It would have been interesting to include some of these figures in the show. It even has historical context. Hungary at the time waged war against austria and took Wien for a decade. It could have been diverted as a war against Carmilla. But well, it was still a great show.
This video got me thinking, maybe the show's map isn't meant to show borders of countries, but rather the territorial control the vamps have with names showing roughly where human countries are.
Iirc the only time the show's map is brought up is that one episode where the vamps are talking strategy, and given the fact the vamps view humanity as simply livestock they wouldn't really care about where we draw our borders, but rather where their competitors do.
Still in any case the fact the mountains and rivers aren't in the right spots anyway is less forgiving, with the only explanation I can think of is that the map is very old but that poses it's own problems like why are there current human country names on there but the landscape part didn't get updated? Anyway that's the best lore explanation I got, lmk if I missed something important
I wonder if there will be an in-depth documentary series about Vlad III. While being a bit tyrannical, his rise to power and how he earned his infamous reputation would be pretty interesting.
>Bosnia
>Location and rough borders of modern Slovenia
Obv drawn by an American. x'D
the fact that two of my favorite youtubers (OSP and Emp.Tigerstar) communicate brings me profound joy
as someone who lives in Romania, Braila, I was triggered by the fact that my city is further north than it was actually supposed to be
There should not be any major hills on the Polish-Czechian border. Sudetes are more to the south, between Silesia (part of Czechia) and Czechia proper.
Some Silesian hills or something, but too north
I feel my national history got actually attacked by the writers by putting slovakia under poland when it was one of the last teritories to survive the ottoman onslaught at the empire´s peak
Possible explanation (purely speculation): the map shows the areas of influence of the vampire clans, not national borders. Dracula had direct control of Wallachia, Moldavia, Transylvania and Moldova, hence them being bundled together as one entity on the map.
Im not sure when exactly castelvania starts but shouldnt bohemia be included into Jagielonian union(poland-bohemia-lithuania) it was a thing in the begining of 15th century that would explain kingdom of poland that extends into HRE
They broke after Wladislaus Jagiełon killed in Varna
@@MasonGreenWeed yes im aware of that but it lasted for more than a dozen of years so it might have been depicted in some maps im not sure if Castelvania is depicting current situation of the world or past on this map if it's using political map that goes a dozen years before then it could be possible that Jagielonian union is on the map
I like that Gresit is placed on the map instead of Bran. For those who don't know, Gresit is not a real place. Gresit in romanian means "Wrong" or "Incorrect".
This might be a stretch on my part, but plenty of people wrongly assume that Bran castle was Vlad's, it's even called Dracula's castle. However he never owned the castle, nor is it know if he's ever been there.
Greșit means wrong or incorrect, not Gresit, Gresit means nothing and it's a fictional location in a fictional story.. I'm from Arges, where the story took place and i'm not mad at all about that... Actually i like it a lot :))
As a Hungarian, thank you
7:27 Im pretty sure Jassy was not in fact the capital of Moldova nor a fortress at that time. I think it was Suceava.
I mean, can't say for certain if they wanted to go by historical accounts of borders, or if Castlevania has some alternate history. (Which when to think of it, I would imagine so since Vampires seem to actually have some chunks of lands that they control as their own.)
But as a Polish guy, seeing as our supposed kingdom at the time controls what would be Holy Roman Empire even in part, I am happy. xD
I wonder, when Camilla showed "the map of the world" in the same episode, is that map somewhat historically accurate to the time?
how a map that eats the black Sea is going to be historically accurate? and they called Camilla the best cartographies??
@@mariano98ify keep in mind middle europe in the 15th century, sure shes lived for centurys but doubt that improved anything, heck her books and maps on how the world looked would have been very out of date due to several factors, most notibly the lack of the printing press.
The show also promotes the myth that the Middle Ages were dark and that Christians pushed back science.
To an extent, Christianity did Push back science, such as promoting the View of a flat earth and labelling those who disagreed as heretics, despite a round earth being proven in ancient greece already
Yes but I also belive that it that universe it is accurate, first they burned "that woman" not because some science but because she was a woman with knowledge = to witch there and she really have some pretty damn advance knowledge that work with electricity and w/o gears, and in time where vampires and fricking Dracula exist, normal they were pretty zealot agaisnt paganism/heathens/heressies
*Saint Cyril sweating in the afterlife*
@@enderkatze6129 The Pope and Christianity already knew that the Earth wasn't flat, that was a myth, Galileo was burned because of political reasons saying that the world is homo centrist.
@@nicolae1126 nop they don't, they literally keep many "pagans" books and save them.
As a hungarian those mountain ranges were very.... interestingly placed. Also Budapest is slightly too high up north.
It's not NETFLIX' fault that Carmilla's map was bad.
It's that Carmilla's mapmaker was likely a vampire... who probably did all the map observations in the dark, and likely didn't really know cartography... Now, if she'd used DRACULA's map maker, likely trained by Dracula himself in proper cartography, she wouldn't have had this problem.
Lmaoo this was all I could think about when I saw the map in the show I was like damn that shits funky as hell
If anyone’s interested, my most recent video is a long form one on Castlevania and history. Mostly talked about geography, historical dress, medieval history, and vampires
The Danube is covered by the dotted line for the southern border of Wallachia. You can see it properly to the bit east of where it says Ottoman and south of Breila
as a person that litterly lives in the balkans, and knows every corner of the balkans and its surroundings, as soon as i saw this cursed map i duged my eyes out and threw my self from 15th floor right into the neighbours backyard.
So now i am blinded and i am siting in a hospital without litterly no bones
Damn Hungary was HUGE
4 u
It’s my favorite AU man this makes me happy indeed
What's the problem with this map:
Me, an actual hungarian with a history degree: "EVERYTHING!"
I always assumed it was proof that Castlevania takes place in an alternate timeline. That or the Vampires were so out of touch they didn't bother with accurate maps.
We need more video game map analysis
holy crap you made me realize how horribly inaccurate that map was
"Why does Poland control all of Germany for some reason?"
Poles: *excited breathing*
Most remarcable Voivode of Transylvania from 1441 until 1456 is Janos Hunniad or Ioan( John) Corvin died in Belgrade after a great victory over Ottomans.
Family of John Corvin is originate from Walachia,near Mountains and is gifted with Corvin Castle by Sigismund of Luxembourg ,roman emperor.
This is probably one of the maps that shocked me the most on this channel ^^
I haven’t watched the show yet but do hope to one day. But yeah the official map is just lazy. You new and improved map is way better!
6:09 Technically, the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania are in a personal union at this point, but yes, they are two separate entities until 1569.
I would love to see more of this kind of thing from you. Be it fixing tv shows, movies, video games, and especially books bad maps, or other stuff like redrawing US states to be more aesthetically pleasing and more practical: ie following geographical boundaries and such.
Just thought about this, I'm assuming you know what the book series "Warriors" is?... just a hunch. You could make those maps better. Lord knows I did countless times as a kid... So much wasted paper.
What did you expect.. it's Netflix
SLOVENIA IS RIGHTFULLY BOSNIAN
Can't argue with that
You mean Krain right? That rightfully Austrian land
A what?
Romania was briefly united in the late 16 to early 17th century under Michael the Brave. So the concept of uniting all of the Romanian nations under one rule must have existed around Vlad's time too.
I read somewhere in the leadup to the first season of the show that the writers didn't know or care about the game series before starting to work on the show, so I immediately wrote it off as another adaptation with contempt for the source material like DmC or the Reboot reboot.
TIL the only two Italian states that existed in the 1470s were Venice and San Marino
I assumed the other was the Papal States.
What about Savoy, Genoa, Milan, Tuscany, and Naples?
@@brandonlyon730 Tuscany didn't exist at that time, it was Florence, Siena, and Lucca that existed
Blessed Hungary.
Emperor Tigerstar, have you ever seen the bonkers historical map from Netflix’s The Christmas Prince movies? Would love to hear your thoughts on that map and the bonkers alternate history that must be behind it.
Something to remember is that Styria is a territory controlled by the Hapsburgs at the time. Heck the ruling Hapsburg, Frederick III was the Holy Roman Emperor. I'll admit, I haven't watched the show, but is there ever any implications of a reaction to VAMPIRES taking a core territory of the Holy Roman Emperor? Then again Frederick III was (according to Wiki) apparently was a hesitant and sluggish descision maker. Then again... they worked. He got his son married to the heiress of the Duchy of Burgandy and his grandson married into the Spanish royal house which would result in the utterly massive Hapsburg Empire under his Great-Grandson, Charles V, the man who almost controlled all of Europe.
*late 15th century*
EUIV players: “Now this looks like a job for me.”
I dunno, I think the sloppiness of this map is emblematic of season 3's problems. The first 2 seasons were solid since they loosely followed the storyline of Castlevania 3 (still mad there's no Grant Danasty) and I really liked their interpretation of events. Then season 3 starts off an original storyline and... hoo boy it's all over the place. Frederator studios is kinda infamous for making shows that are more style than substance and that really applies to season 3. I'm not surprised that there's such a lack of attention to detail with this map since they apparently couldn't really be bothered with writing a cohesive plot to begin with.
I think the city names on your version of the map could still be improved:
Jassy is a very old name for the city of Iași, I've literally never heard it be used inside Romania.
Klausenburg being used as the name for Cluj-Napoca is also kinda weird, I think it would've been better if both Cluj and Timișoara were written in the same language, either Romanian or Hungarian.
The ă in Brăila is missing its hat but that might be an issue with the font in which case it's not that big of a problem.
I believe these were just common names used at that time period, hence why they’re all old fashioned ones.
@@EmperorTigerstar Then Timişoara should be Temeszvar, which I think is what they labelled it as in the original, anyway this was a pretty fun video to watch.
@@EmperorTigerstar yeah, but the names could still be improved. It's not that big of a deal. All these names are still partially accurate.
@@Andrei-vv4ou I think he should have used german, hungarian or latin for the city names within the Hungarian Kingdom. The first map of Hungary was made after the battle of Mohács, before 1528 by Lazarus secretarius (Lázár Deák) here is the map itself ibb.co/hRhRxHj I highlithed the name of the towns with red circles so you can find them easier. Presburg/Posonium, Colosvar/Clausenburg and Temesvar. Here is another map made by hungarian humanist Johannes Sambucus (Sámboki János) in 1578 ibb.co/02jqzmz again I circled the cities Presburg,Kolosvar, Temeswar, Varadin.
Styria is a duchy is not a kingdom and it is ruled by the Habsburgs of Austria and a part of the greater Archduchy of Austria. I was confused as to what happened to the Habsburgs.
Friedrich III get asshandled by vampire probably