Can I ask for honest comments on technology.....as a 58 year old male I have a smart phone a tablet and iMac but I Don't use car tech.....I know where I'm going like radio and know how to stay in a lane , break and use a rear view mirror..........so great if you are 20 but doubt that's the target demographic.
I test drove one today. Was almost faultless. I was sceptical about the CVT and underpowered engine. After the test drive, I was happy with how it drove. Not quick, but as a family car that you drive on the road, it's perfectly adequate for what it's designed to do. Super comfortable, heaps of room. Very impressed.
@@altbinhax Probably doesn't help that we have some of the shittest fuel standards so it doeasn't make business sense to tune and spec a car just for our market.
@@Neon8787 really, tell Porsche, benz, Italian exotics, that hasn't stopped them Japan has had 30 years of central bank interventions and that's more of a factor.
I was going to buy the forrester sport but I realised that it's a 2 year old car. It was released 2 years ago in the US and it's still priced as "new". Very disappointed.
Test drove one last week. I was so excited about this car. Got super excited when I seen it released and headed straight to the dealership. What a disappointment. It's slow and sluggish of the line. It needs more power. We need the turbo in Australia. Subaru make it happen.
@@petron1954 It felt sluggish from a standing start. Once it was up to speed it was fine. I drove a Forester straight after and it was much more responsive. Personally, I would have went for a sport as I feel its the sweet spot of the range.
@@scallenoz I thought the Sport would be the pick, however the wife was disappointed when she looked. Preferred the Touring. Like you I would like a turbo version.
@@petron1954 the touring certainly is a nicer place to be and I like the upgraded stereo. I liked the sport for the water repellant seats (I've 2 young kids) and I have no need for a sunroof as I planned to put a roof cage on it. It also had beefier roof rails.
@@scallenoz “it felt sluggish from the start”...I’m curious because I’m seriously considering buying an Outback, and I’ve only had turbos over the last 12-15 years (A4, A6, Volvo V60 etc). Surely for normal day to day driving the outback would be adequate? I mean, I’m not the type of guy who feels the need to burn away from the lights, nor do I feel the need to pretend I’m a tarmac rally driver. I guess what I’m asking, is the engine suitable for the school drop off, sport pick pick up, work commute...but also the odd trip to the bush for mountain biking, bush roads for camping etc?? TIA
@@robertceroli3512 exactly, doesn’t have to be crazy upgrades but a few choice ones to make you feel you bought something different. Rather than something that looks like it went to super cheap.
I would buy this in a flash if it had the turbo motor. Wouldn’t bother now with so many competitors offering better value at that price range. New Santa fe or Sorrento another 15kw and nearly double the torque with their diesel and only 7l/100 economy....
Great car, shit engine! What were Subaru thinking? Also beats me why they have a 2.5tonne tow rating, goodluck pulling a caravan out of the driveway with that amount of torque.
Blame Japan. The 2.4 turbo engine was a US design and Japan are currently redesigning it to suit non-US markets. It wasn't ready in time for the AU Gen6 launch and I doubt the market would have waited another year with Gen5.
I had the out going premium model, great comfortable wagon. If Subaru was to bring a turbo Outback or Forrester to Australia I would be back on the Subaru band wagon. For now I felt the Hyundai turbo motors were at an advantage. Subaru AU needs to do a bit of foot stomping to get a more powerful power plant option for both cars
Test drove the 2.5 sport and loved it so much I bought one. The engine is easily enough for me. Not an exciting drive but plenty enough power for almost anyone.
There must be whole car market full of people who just don't care about proper driving performance. Cars that can't pull the skin off a rice custard just don't cut the mustard in my books. I'm just talking about decent performance not head smacking G-Forces - Come on Subaru - it's just not good enough. 83.1 Kw/Tonne - it's like something from the mid 90's.
I have always thought that Subaru's were very popular here in Australia, but not as much as the USA, even thought that has changed over the last few years. So why are the Aussie's missing out on the more powerful model and the options for a manual. You would think Subaru would look after their loyal customer base, not short change them. Also why are the "capped" servicing price so expensive? 300-800 for a service is ridiculous. I have owned my current car for 7 years and have never paid more then $320 for a service. if the dealership is charging $800 for one capped service, I'd hate to know what they charge normally.
Turbo for the new Outback please Subaru. My present 2017 Outback is 6 cyl and apart from the seats which tend to be a trifle hard and uncomfortable after sitting in them after a while, I love it for it's amazing features and amenity and it's fast pulling strength and zip under load. I wouldn't consider buying a new Outback without similar pulling torque and power.
Nice looking car with good features but I still wouldn’t buy it because it’s slow and sluggish. However had the engine been punchier (turbo charged) I would definitely consider it.
The ride, AWD, safety, finish, full size spare etc would have made this an ideal car for Australian country driving but we have to look elswhere because of the marketing mistake not to bring in the turbo engine. Subaru, what were you thinking?
Total disappointment, I was looking forward to this and had it on my shortlist for next car after seeing the U.S tests. I guess they only had grandad in mind when sending us this engine. Subaru just put the turbo on, It's not that hard.
@@petermarshall817 Yep, I was thinking the same it's slim pickings for easily the most practical cars on the road (wagons). I miss my commodore sportswagon.
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Keen for a 2021 wagon comparison vid. Could we get it in cost classes? Cos I wouldn't compare the Skoda Superb Scout with the Outback - it's nearly $20k more and more on par with Volvo V60 imo. Especially with the new Octavia Style just dropping.
@@derekharvey5257 I'd be calling them every week to try and buy it, unlike the current situation where the local dealer is calling me every couple of weeks, no matter how much I say to them 'please only call me when you get a turbo!'
Have had a Liberty with the 2.5 for ten years and very happy with it. The CVT allows the engine to rev freely when you need a bit of grunt, but back off for great fuel figures when highway cruising. My opinion won't convince everybody, as I'm an old fart with no demerit points, but I still like to get moving, and if I'm driving a WRX, my travel times are the same.
Great review. It's a shame, this was #1 on the list to replace my VF Commodore wagon. Pretty sure the outback would be fine for 80% of my driving but the times when I've got 4 adults plus my boat hitched up, I dont think the non- turbo engine will be enough and I do worry about the cvt ref towing. I don't need 7 seats or 4wd, but AWD was on the list for snow trips, as I hate putting the chains on the commo. The pajero sport is looking the goods so far.
that turbo will come to Australia probably next year. We always get ripped off. Subaru Forrester sport was released in the US 2 years ago, we just got it in Australia and it's sold as the same price and "new".
Tom, I have a 2018 Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg Edition and it comes with a Full Size (19 inch) Alloy Spare wheel. In fact, this car is a replacement of my previous 2016 VW Passat 140TDI Highline Wagon, which also came with a full size (18 inch in this case) spare wheel. Actually, all my previous Passat's B6 / B7 all had full size spare wheels). My ŠKODA Superb 206TSI 4x4 on the other hand, makes do with a Space Saver spare wheel...
Thanks for the additional detail - I have put a request in to Volkswagen to find out whether the incoming facelifted Passat Alltrack continues with a full size spare, and when I find out I will add a correction if I've got it wrong.
I had the 3.6R with the fruit, awesome car. Just need roof rails, the integrated roof system was, stupid, to narrow, not strong enough for surf skis, carbon bikes. If Subaru understood its customers the new model would have the turbo motor and proper roof racks. That’s why people buy these over prados/4x4 wagons.
I test drove the 2.5i CVT Outback. Many people here hate in this powertrain I found it perfectly adequate and perfectly smooth for a family car. And I don't think anything in the class is as comfortable as the Outback.
Hey Subaru, listen to what Tom and several other new car reviewers have to say about the inadequacy of the (90% new components) 2.5 litre petrol engine on an all new platform. Subaru just lost another Outback sale as I'm off to Hyundai for a 2021 Santa Fe.
May be the good old 3litre 6 cylinder boxer. Electronics are there to take care of performance.. A manual transmission... Ohhhh what am I thinking... Iam lost in a different reality...
I have a 2012 manual forester and would be interested in ugrading to an outback but only if it came in the 2.4 ltr turbo. Please bring it to australia. We always seem to miss out on the good stuff that counts.
Test drove the touring variant recently. Perfect vehicle, if it was n't for the underwhelming performance. I am ready to buy now, but will hold off until 2.4T engine arrives. Slightly higher ground clearance would be good too.
Would love to see the XT version here. Lament the demise of the Forester XT. Currently I drive a Levorg & the Outback XT would be the perfect next vehicle for my growing family for daily driving, weekend sport & camping trips. Hopefully don’t have to look to another brand for the mix of driving excitement & practicality I need. Enjoyed the review.
Great review. Drove one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. However my 2014 Forester XT turbo would have thrashed it over taking and towing. Definitely need the turbo option on this Outback.
I contacted the company about the turbo. They replied that the Japanese factory is not producing the turbo engine the Americans have so no turbo for Australia!
Agreed. Quite a disappointing delay. There have been issues with production capacity in Japan across a range of Subaru models for RHD markets including Australia.
Where is my XT Turbo? I don't understand what Subaru is doing. Riding on the pedigree of turbo performance to sell cars that rubbish the pedigree is a poor long term strategy for the brand, in my opinion.
Ever since Toyota got a share of the Subaru they are now doing boring cars. Well, Toyota is now doing fun cars again hopefully Subaru will do that soon
Having played with the Gen6 infotainment system today, it's definitely better than the Gen5 in terms of responsiveness, but falls short of being responsive as a consumer tablet device. It's not a deal breaker in my books.
We have a Forester XT turbo 2017 and the Outback non turbo 2018. The Outback is a very practical, comfortable car and has a little more of a premium feel to it than the Forester without the Forester feeling "shabby". Highway cruising in the Outback is very stable, even when loaded up to the brim. If you are going 120 km/h (or more) the Outback feels very stable and the Forester sways a little more. The Forester never feels unsafe though and is more fun to drive. Overtaking and getting out in traffic is a breeze with the turbo. When you are up and running the Outback wins out for comfort though and it doesn't feel sluggish while your are at your target speed. The Outback feels a little peppier when the engine is warmed up but it is a bit on the slower side - if you like fast acceleration and for some the droing sound when flooring it is ear grating. I don't mind though I prefer the older Outbacks (pre CVT) for sure in this regard. In all other aspects the new generation Outbacks are capable and smooth driving cars. Other than acceleration - and sometimes when overtaking - the Outback is a great daily driver. There is a simply solution to that predicament: put the turbo in the Outback. Done. I am very jealous at the 'muricans since I really enjoy the loading capacity and comfort of the Outback and with the turbo I would definitely go for it. It won't happen for emission reasons here in Europe I am sure so I am not holding my breath.
100% agree with the summary. I’ve had 2 Outbacks, diesel and a 2.5. Loved them both but the 2.5 was just underpowered, and frankly a liability in certain situations with a full load on the highway. Currently have a 162TSi Tiguan, which I really like too but it’s a bit small and expensive. I’m ordering my next car in April and have been waiting for the new Outback with the turbo 2.4, but sadly my next car now will not be an Outback 😭😭😭
Andrew - in rank order and before driving them all: - Skoda Kodiaq RS - Kia Sorento GTline (diesel) - Toyota RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid AWD - Subi Outback Touring (to drive at least but v. unlikely to buy the 2.5)
Reasonable review, but most of these experts need a lesson in diction. Many of his words and phrases are run together and swallowed. All in all though, comprehensive and useful. What I find tedious is the usual gaggle of aging rev heads who complain about the engines in these vehicles. If you tragics are so concerned about getting a wheeny rush when you hit the throttle why are you watching Outback or Forester reviews? Just shell out for a Dodge RAM or a Ford Ranger and enjoy the rush from petrol station to petrol station. Or do the bleedin' intelligent thing and buy a WRX.
Great reviews. But I would like to see reviewers dig a little deeper - eg. there is a history of CVT transmission failures, head gasket failure and heavy oil consumption in modern Subaru's . Maybe the CVT issues have been fixed in this model. As with all cars, do homework : ruclips.net/video/inZHYv-VHVo/видео.html
I'm fine with the 2.5 motor, current drive is a Skoda Octavia 1.4 wagon, I'm replacing it with an Outback touring. Skoda and VW have discontinued the Golf Alltrack Wagon and Skoda Octavia Scouts, in favour of the more expensive Skoda Superb Scout and VW Passat Alltrack, both of which are good, but $10k out of my price bracket. My Touring with everything + Explorer pack cost only $49k
Hi Chasing Cars I’m new to your channel but have been a Subaru fan for a long time and have owned 2 Outback’s both have the H6 version, 2003 & 2007, we also owned the 2000 liberty wagon, and the latest 2018 Liberty and the 2008 GT H6 Liberty. Like most I’m not happy Subaru Australia didn’t bring the turbo version here. I’d hate to say it but I’ll have to start to look elsewhere. I’d like to say what marketing genius decided to leave out a popular option? What are Subaru Australia thinking, where’s the guts they once had, it’s now driven by marketing geniuses and bean counters, they need someone with drive, excuse the pun.
Another example of Subaru Aus treating the local market with contempt. They are continuing to miss out on capitalizing on such a loyal customer base with late new models, deleted equipment specs (heated steering wheels over ventilated seats!) and underpowered engines. Wake up Subaru Aus - the your 2021 product offering is barely more convincing and interesting than that of the Koreans.
Why has Subaru decided not to sell the Turbo in Australia? Do they understand our market? We were really excited about updating our fantastic Impreza when the Outback landed but without any exciting engine (the 2.4 turbo) we will be looking elsewhere unfortunately.
Subaru: bring the Outback turbo!
The outback looks good yep a Turbo will make it a game changer
Yaaaass! Bring the Outback Turbo!
Business case is underway issue is only for US market at the moment
I want a turbo!
You tell them Tom
interesting to see that in this version the front bumper black plastic looks pointy compared to the one sold in the US
Can I ask for honest comments on technology.....as a 58 year old male I have a smart phone a tablet and iMac but I Don't use car tech.....I know where I'm going like radio and know how to stay in a lane , break and use a rear view mirror..........so great if you are 20 but doubt that's the target demographic.
So looking forward to getting my outback until I found out there’s no turbo charged one have to look a another car any suggestions ?
No turbo? No interest
Turbo model please Subaru!!!!
I test drove one today. Was almost faultless. I was sceptical about the CVT and underpowered engine. After the test drive, I was happy with how it drove. Not quick, but as a family car that you drive on the road, it's perfectly adequate for what it's designed to do. Super comfortable, heaps of room. Very impressed.
It is a perfect car.
Don't know what all the crying about power is about.
Also test drove one and 100% adequate engine wise. Turbo model should be a weapon really and not needed for most people buying this type of car.
I’m trading in my XV 16 to upgrade OB 23, tested drive and I felt that enough power for everyday around town/highway in Sydney 😂
Do you get a grey cardigan with it or is that an optional extra?
no need for turbo, goes fine with enough power, great for city and off road driving.
Was considering this model as my next drive but Subaru has really missed the mark with the engine.
Overweight overpriced and underpowered no turbo no care..
Subaru have become lazy and treat the Oz market like the poor second cousin. Meh.
@@altbinhax Probably doesn't help that we have some of the shittest fuel standards so it doeasn't make business sense to tune and spec a car just for our market.
@@Neon8787 really, tell Porsche, benz, Italian exotics, that hasn't stopped them Japan has had 30 years of central bank interventions and that's more of a factor.
I was going to buy the forrester sport but I realised that it's a 2 year old car. It was released 2 years ago in the US and it's still priced as "new". Very disappointed.
why only North America selfishly gets the turbo XT is beyond me
Test drove one last week. I was so excited about this car. Got super excited when I seen it released and headed straight to the dealership. What a disappointment. It's slow and sluggish of the line. It needs more power. We need the turbo in Australia. Subaru make it happen.
What was the car really like to drive as I am interested in purchasing a Touring model.
@@petron1954 It felt sluggish from a standing start. Once it was up to speed it was fine. I drove a Forester straight after and it was much more responsive. Personally, I would have went for a sport as I feel its the sweet spot of the range.
@@scallenoz I thought the Sport would be the pick, however the wife was disappointed when she looked. Preferred the Touring. Like you I would like a turbo version.
@@petron1954 the touring certainly is a nicer place to be and I like the upgraded stereo. I liked the sport for the water repellant seats (I've 2 young kids) and I have no need for a sunroof as I planned to put a roof cage on it. It also had beefier roof rails.
@@scallenoz “it felt sluggish from the start”...I’m curious because I’m seriously considering buying an Outback, and I’ve only had turbos over the last 12-15 years (A4, A6, Volvo V60 etc). Surely for normal day to day driving the outback would be adequate? I mean, I’m not the type of guy who feels the need to burn away from the lights, nor do I feel the need to pretend I’m a tarmac rally driver. I guess what I’m asking, is the engine suitable for the school drop off, sport pick pick up, work commute...but also the odd trip to the bush for mountain biking, bush roads for camping etc?? TIA
I remember a time when the sport badge actually meant something on a car.
Yeh like a eng performance upgrade so the car had more herbs than the standard run of the mill model
@@robertceroli3512 exactly, doesn’t have to be crazy upgrades but a few choice ones to make you feel you bought something different. Rather than something that looks like it went to super cheap.
Because they try now represent power with status
They should have called it the Onyx model, it would suit much better.
This more outdoorsy spec seems to be called the "field" in the UK market, more suitable name I think.
Tom, took a Skoda 200TSI Scout for a test drive today. Bye Subaru & thanks for forcing me to look at something better at the same price
Ken, for me the space saver on the Skoda is a ‘deal breaker’
But scout is not better overall, just the engine. And vag has dropped the quality lately. Audi owner
I would buy this in a flash if it had the turbo motor. Wouldn’t bother now with so many competitors offering better value at that price range. New Santa fe or Sorrento another 15kw and nearly double the torque with their diesel and only 7l/100 economy....
Yep, weak engine with horrid consumption and high C02 = insane taxes.
No Hyundai or Kia will take you to the places the Outback would, keep that in mind.
Great car, shit engine! What were Subaru thinking? Also beats me why they have a 2.5tonne tow rating, goodluck pulling a caravan out of the driveway with that amount of torque.
Blame Japan. The 2.4 turbo engine was a US design and Japan are currently redesigning it to suit non-US markets. It wasn't ready in time for the AU Gen6 launch and I doubt the market would have waited another year with Gen5.
I want the outback, the mrs wants the forester, so Ill compromise with her and get the outback 😁
I have always loved Subaru cars in terms of form. But without some engine upgrades they are useless. The engine is a lawnmower.
I had the out going premium model, great comfortable wagon. If Subaru was to bring a turbo Outback or Forrester to Australia I would be back on the Subaru band wagon. For now I felt the Hyundai turbo motors were at an advantage.
Subaru AU needs to do a bit of foot stomping to get a more powerful power plant option for both cars
Would seriously buy this over an SUV EXCEPT FOR THE PATHETIC ENGINE. bring on the 190kw XT and I’d buy one tomorrow
“Certainly the chassis can handle the power and torque of the turbo” .... sounded to me like an invite for mods...😁
Test drove the 2.5 sport and loved it so much I bought one. The engine is easily enough for me. Not an exciting drive but plenty enough power for almost anyone.
There must be whole car market full of people who just don't care about proper driving performance. Cars that can't pull the skin off a rice custard just don't cut the mustard in my books. I'm just talking about decent performance not head smacking G-Forces - Come on Subaru - it's just not good enough. 83.1 Kw/Tonne - it's like something from the mid 90's.
"A knob would have done the job a little better." Hilarious! Another excellent car video btw.
I have always thought that Subaru's were very popular here in Australia, but not as much as the USA, even thought that has changed over the last few years. So why are the Aussie's missing out on the more powerful model and the options for a manual. You would think Subaru would look after their loyal customer base, not short change them. Also why are the "capped" servicing price so expensive? 300-800 for a service is ridiculous. I have owned my current car for 7 years and have never paid more then $320 for a service. if the dealership is charging $800 for one capped service, I'd hate to know what they charge normally.
You do understand Australian dollars are worth 30% less then US right?
@@ekimandersom4478 Ummm Australians pay twice as much as the USA does for cars.
Turbo for the new Outback please Subaru. My present 2017 Outback is 6 cyl and apart from the seats which tend to be a trifle hard and uncomfortable after sitting in them after a while, I love it for it's amazing features and amenity and it's fast pulling strength and zip under load. I wouldn't consider buying a new Outback without similar pulling torque and power.
Underpowered vehicle. Subaru Australia think we are suckers. Loaded with unwanted features.
I think Subarus are mostly targeted towards North American tastes these days.
Nice looking car with good features but I still wouldn’t buy it because it’s slow and sluggish. However had the engine been punchier (turbo charged) I would definitely consider it.
The ride, AWD, safety, finish, full size spare etc would have made this an ideal car for Australian country driving but we have to look elswhere because of the marketing mistake not to bring in the turbo engine. Subaru, what were you thinking?
Without turbo it is more then fast enough for normal driving, and it lasts longer.
Total disappointment, I was looking forward to this and had it on my shortlist for next car after seeing the U.S tests. I guess they only had grandad in mind when sending us this engine. Subaru just put the turbo on, It's not that hard.
Totally agree mate. Australia has not got the turbo and pushes me to a Skoda most probably.
@@petermarshall817 Yep, I was thinking the same it's slim pickings for easily the most practical cars on the road (wagons). I miss my commodore sportswagon.
Can’t believe there’s no turbo what a joke this is Australia not Fiji islands. What rubbish
Tom’s reviews have guided two car purchases in less than 12 months.
He has cost my household over $150,000 but has left us very happy.
Chasing Cars continues to be the best car channel on RUclips and it is Australian!
Keen for a 2021 wagon comparison vid. Could we get it in cost classes? Cos I wouldn't compare the Skoda Superb Scout with the Outback - it's nearly $20k more and more on par with Volvo V60 imo. Especially with the new Octavia Style just dropping.
I would pay way too much money for this in a turbo. That's all I want, out of any car in the world! come on Subaru!
Same. If the turbo 2.4 comes I’ll be “TAKE MY MONEY NOW!”
@@derekharvey5257 I'd be calling them every week to try and buy it, unlike the current situation where the local dealer is calling me every couple of weeks, no matter how much I say to them 'please only call me when you get a turbo!'
Must be tough going from an E63S to this hah
Subaru: Aussie don't deserve a 2.4 turbo
@7 we're talking about 2.4 turbo petrol not diesel tho.
Subaru persist with gutless engines, compared to the COMPETITION! Hence, why one is not on my shopping list.👎🏼
Have had a Liberty with the 2.5 for ten years and very happy with it. The CVT allows the engine to rev freely when you need a bit of grunt, but back off for great fuel figures when highway cruising.
My opinion won't convince everybody, as I'm an old fart with no demerit points, but I still like to get moving, and if I'm driving a WRX, my travel times are the same.
2010 Outback with 2.5 checking in here. Driven a lot on country roads. Totally adequate for passing B-double trucks in good time.
No turbo, no sale
Great review.
It's a shame, this was #1 on the list to replace my VF Commodore wagon. Pretty sure the outback would be fine for 80% of my driving but the times when I've got 4 adults plus my boat hitched up, I dont think the non- turbo engine will be enough and I do worry about the cvt ref towing.
I don't need 7 seats or 4wd, but AWD was on the list for snow trips, as I hate putting the chains on the commo.
The pajero sport is looking the goods so far.
Yep the Pajero sport moved up on my list. I was excited when this came out but sadly it's overpriced for what you're getting.
that turbo will come to Australia probably next year. We always get ripped off. Subaru Forrester sport was released in the US 2 years ago, we just got it in Australia and it's sold as the same price and "new".
Tom, took a demo for test drive. Sounds like a sewing machine run by an elastic band. Not for me, no guts
2.5 aspirated across the range and no further choices.....Subaru Australia has lost the plot
As always, a great review. Head & shoulders better & more informative than the rest.
Tom, I have a 2018 Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg Edition and it comes with a Full Size (19 inch) Alloy Spare wheel. In fact, this car is a replacement of my previous 2016 VW Passat 140TDI Highline Wagon, which also came with a full size (18 inch in this case) spare wheel. Actually, all my previous Passat's B6 / B7 all had full size spare wheels). My ŠKODA Superb 206TSI 4x4 on the other hand, makes do with a Space Saver spare wheel...
Thanks for the additional detail - I have put a request in to Volkswagen to find out whether the incoming facelifted Passat Alltrack continues with a full size spare, and when I find out I will add a correction if I've got it wrong.
Turbo motor with some get up and they would sell like hot cakes 👍. Standard motor is gutless, sport what a laugh.
I had the 3.6R with the fruit, awesome car. Just need roof rails, the integrated roof system was, stupid, to narrow, not strong enough for surf skis, carbon bikes. If Subaru understood its customers the new model would have the turbo motor and proper roof racks. That’s why people buy these over prados/4x4 wagons.
I test drove the 2.5i CVT Outback. Many people here hate in this powertrain I found it perfectly adequate and perfectly smooth for a family car. And I don't think anything in the class is as comfortable as the Outback.
Definitely needs the turbo version!
I much prefer analogue gages than just another lame flat screen. screens everywhere. its so tiresome
Get used to it. The next Levorg is all-screen with drawn speedometers, and that will trickle down to the other models too.
@@HyRax_Aus gross - think ill pass
@@yehnah5891 All cars across all brands are slowly moving this way. You won't have much choice.
Subaru, listen very carefully. Turbo or GTFO 🙄 Love from your long standing customers who have had a gutfull
Great honest review Tom (love the reference to 🌚 and ☀️). Please review BMW 128 ti. At least with that car you won't be saying it's underpowered.😅
Hey Subaru, listen to what Tom and several other new car reviewers have to say about the inadequacy of the (90% new components) 2.5 litre petrol engine on an all new platform. Subaru just lost another Outback sale as I'm off to Hyundai for a 2021 Santa Fe.
May be the good old 3litre 6 cylinder boxer. Electronics are there to take care of performance.. A manual transmission... Ohhhh what am I thinking... Iam lost in a different reality...
Love my 2020 XT here in Canada. Beast of a vehicle.
Oh dear, they have gone lobster claw tail lights. Looks like a good package overall, I just wish it had an Asian 8 speed auto and offered a turbo.
Not as bad as the Forester's taillights I reckon
@@chasingcars Definitely
@@chasingcars foresters tail lights are the last of its problems looks wise 😅
Can you please review 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness if it's coming to Australia.
I have a 2012 manual forester and would be interested in ugrading to an outback but only if it came in the 2.4 ltr turbo. Please bring it to australia. We always seem to miss out on the good stuff that counts.
What would stop me buying a Subaru Outback? - if they ever give it one of those ridiculous “space savers” - that would make me walk away
Why do subaru just refuse to turbo shit, like no 86 turbo no outback turbo. no like base trim impreza turbo. i'm surprised the wrx even has one.
Decent car let down by week engine and transmission
Shame the 2.4L Turbo offered overseas is not made available in Aus. C’mon Subaru Aus - we deserve the Turbo.
Test drove the touring variant recently. Perfect vehicle, if it was n't for the underwhelming performance. I am ready to buy now, but will hold off until 2.4T engine arrives. Slightly higher ground clearance would be good too.
Would love to see the XT version here. Lament the demise of the Forester XT. Currently I drive a Levorg & the Outback XT would be the perfect next vehicle for my growing family for daily driving, weekend sport & camping trips. Hopefully don’t have to look to another brand for the mix of driving excitement & practicality I need. Enjoyed the review.
Interesting Outback turbo would be nice and irresistible for buyers.
Agreed. Bring the turbo, Subaru!
Great review. Drove one a couple of weeks ago and was impressed. However my 2014 Forester XT turbo would have thrashed it over taking and towing. Definitely need the turbo option on this Outback.
Awesomely boring thanks to the engine. 138kw... Jesus Christ Subaru.
Most comprehensive review so far of the outback. 👍🏻Bring the turbo Subaru!!👎🏻
I contacted the company about the turbo. They replied that the Japanese factory is not producing the turbo engine the Americans have so no turbo for Australia!
Could do a review of volvo v90 cross country. Thx.
It's surprising that the revised outback has been available in NA for >1.5 years when it's been incredibly popular in the australian market
Agreed. Quite a disappointing delay. There have been issues with production capacity in Japan across a range of Subaru models for RHD markets including Australia.
Hi Tom, thanks for the awesome review. Would you be able to review the new SsangYong Rexton Ultimate when you can? Thanks.
You didn't tell us the prices of the 3 models .
Google it
very capable car. However I have always disliked them. I can't put my finger on it, but something about the looks of the Outback i've always disliked
I just ordered a outback sport. Love the design, but will be more than happy to see australia brings in the turbo engine.
Safety very important... can't go fast enough to hurt yourself.
Where is my XT Turbo? I don't understand what Subaru is doing. Riding on the pedigree of turbo performance to sell cars that rubbish the pedigree is a poor long term strategy for the brand, in my opinion.
Went for a test drive - really nice - but lack of power lets this down. Would have bought if more powerful
No thanks but I do like the vehicle tho but i feel happy with the rav 4 cruiser hybrid that I have.
I have had Subaru's for 22 years all of them TURBOS and yes I want be buying a new one unless this option returns.
Ever since Toyota got a share of the Subaru they are now doing boring cars. Well, Toyota is now doing fun cars again hopefully Subaru will do that soon
#bringbacktheBrumby
Tom I like your reviews
You forgot to mention the Recall for brake booster failure & the stop delivery order! 🙄👎
Subaru bring the 2.4T, until then I’ll stay with my 3.6
Forget the Turbo; I want one in all electric. Come on Subaru!
If a turbo is ONLY offered in this vehicle, no P plate driver can drive one, pity.
Yep Subaru have gone stupid and forgets that every second car has turbo now stop being stupid subaru.
I cant tell if the footage is slowed down or if the infotainment system is laggy af
The latter I’m afraid
Having played with the Gen6 infotainment system today, it's definitely better than the Gen5 in terms of responsiveness, but falls short of being responsive as a consumer tablet device. It's not a deal breaker in my books.
Please Subaru, please please please bring the Turbo engine in. Or at please please please give us a manual option again.
I would buy one NOW if I could get the turbo engine, but until then, no thanks
The Engine is absurd
Like a Porsche, junior.
"A knob would have done a better job".....Yes skoda they would have...
Good review! What is the colour of the car in this video?
Test drove this and way better than the new Sportage 2022 GT. Buying this..
Looks green
We have a Forester XT turbo 2017 and the Outback non turbo 2018. The Outback is a very practical, comfortable car and has a little more of a premium feel to it than the Forester without the Forester feeling "shabby". Highway cruising in the Outback is very stable, even when loaded up to the brim. If you are going 120 km/h (or more) the Outback feels very stable and the Forester sways a little more. The Forester never feels unsafe though and is more fun to drive. Overtaking and getting out in traffic is a breeze with the turbo. When you are up and running the Outback wins out for comfort though and it doesn't feel sluggish while your are at your target speed. The Outback feels a little peppier when the engine is warmed up but it is a bit on the slower side - if you like fast acceleration and for some the droing sound when flooring it is ear grating. I don't mind though I prefer the older Outbacks (pre CVT) for sure in this regard. In all other aspects the new generation Outbacks are capable and smooth driving cars.
Other than acceleration - and sometimes when overtaking - the Outback is a great daily driver.
There is a simply solution to that predicament: put the turbo in the Outback. Done. I am very jealous at the 'muricans since I really enjoy the loading capacity and comfort of the Outback and with the turbo I would definitely go for it. It won't happen for emission reasons here in Europe I am sure so I am not holding my breath.
100% agree with the summary. I’ve had 2 Outbacks, diesel and a 2.5. Loved them both but the 2.5 was just underpowered, and frankly a liability in certain situations with a full load on the highway. Currently have a 162TSi Tiguan, which I really like too but it’s a bit small and expensive. I’m ordering my next car in April and have been waiting for the new Outback with the turbo 2.4, but sadly my next car now will not be an Outback 😭😭😭
Which cars are on your shortlist?
Andrew - in rank order and before driving them all:
- Skoda Kodiaq RS
- Kia Sorento GTline (diesel)
- Toyota RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid AWD
- Subi Outback Touring (to drive at least but v. unlikely to buy the 2.5)
Same. Weird. It is a bit sad even though it’s ‘only a car’
Reasonable review, but most of these experts need a lesson in diction. Many of his words and phrases are run together and swallowed. All in all though, comprehensive and useful. What I find tedious is the usual gaggle of aging rev heads who complain about the engines in these vehicles. If you tragics are so concerned about getting a wheeny rush when you hit the throttle why are you watching Outback or Forester reviews? Just shell out for a Dodge RAM or a Ford Ranger and enjoy the rush from petrol station to petrol station. Or do the bleedin' intelligent thing and buy a WRX.
Great reviews. But I would like to see reviewers dig a little deeper - eg. there is a history of CVT transmission failures, head gasket failure and heavy oil consumption in modern Subaru's . Maybe the CVT issues have been fixed in this model. As with all cars, do homework :
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I'm fine with the 2.5 motor, current drive is a Skoda Octavia 1.4 wagon, I'm replacing it with an Outback touring. Skoda and VW have discontinued the Golf Alltrack Wagon and Skoda Octavia Scouts, in favour of the more expensive Skoda Superb Scout and VW Passat Alltrack, both of which are good, but $10k out of my price bracket. My Touring with everything + Explorer pack cost only $49k
Hi Chasing Cars
I’m new to your channel but have been a Subaru fan for a long time and have owned 2 Outback’s both have the H6 version, 2003 & 2007, we also owned the 2000 liberty wagon, and the latest 2018 Liberty and the 2008 GT H6 Liberty.
Like most I’m not happy Subaru Australia didn’t bring the turbo version here. I’d hate to say it but I’ll have to start to look elsewhere. I’d like to say what marketing genius decided to leave out a popular option?
What are Subaru Australia thinking, where’s the guts they once had, it’s now driven by marketing geniuses and bean counters, they need someone with drive, excuse the pun.
Another example of Subaru Aus treating the local market with contempt. They are continuing to miss out on capitalizing on such a loyal customer base with late new models, deleted equipment specs (heated steering wheels over ventilated seats!) and underpowered engines.
Wake up Subaru Aus - the your 2021 product offering is barely more convincing and interesting than that of the Koreans.
Why has Subaru decided not to sell the Turbo in Australia? Do they understand our market? We were really excited about updating our fantastic Impreza when the Outback landed but without any exciting engine (the 2.4 turbo) we will be looking elsewhere unfortunately.