The Tragic Fall of Simone - NieR Automata
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- I have some more to talk about regarding the differences between 9S' combat and 2B's, but first, lemme explain the deal with that text log you saw. Being that 9S is a scanner and a pretty heavy thinker, he often comes across more information than 2B. One thing you notice is that he can actually see the names of the bosses. If you look back to my Amusement Park video as 2B, and beyond, the bosses' names are written in "Angelic" language. But 9S can actually see and analyze them.
It's how he knew that Adam's brother was called "Eve". Adam only introduced himself. Neither he nor Eve himself ever said Eve's name. 9S was able to see it.
Also, due to his hacking, 9S comes across other archived information within the enemies he hacks. Here he experiences what Simone went through to get to the point where she was when she attacked 2B and himself. When 9S said about her saying "pretty weird things" and it seeming like "she had actual emotion", he was referring to that long archive he uncovered while hacking her.
And yes, the machine that Simone was pining after was in-fact Jean-Paul. Jean-Paul treated all his admirers like... well any letters or gifts they sent him, he told 2B and 9S that they weren't worthy of even a response from him. When 2B and 9S told all those female machines that Jean-Paul literally didn't care about them, they didn't seem to notice and just swooned even more over his "mysterious allure".
But not Simone.
She loved him so much, and his indifference hurt her. It hurt her enough to turn herself into a monster in pursuit of his love and attention. It's safe to say she too originated from Pascal's village. If you look closely, you can even see her original machine head, which is protruding from her chest just underneath her neck.
Anyway, 9S' combat feels just a TINY bit off from 2B's. For a Perfect Evade, you're kinda required to do your dodge a bit later, because his Evade has a faster startup, but doesn't seem to go as far.
Also 9S' actual Perfect Evade is a bit slower than 2B's. When there's an attack that has a longer duration, where you can chain Perfect Evades (like against the Goliath Bipeds when they do their continuous arm spin attack), 9S' Perfect Evades chain at a noticeably slower rate.
This also affects counterattacks. Just like 2B, he can counterattack after a Perfect Evade. He can even hack out of a Perfect Evade. But it's a bit delayed. If you try to counterattack out of a Perfect Evade with the same input timing as 2B, 9S won't do anything. You either have to delay the input a bit, or just mash it. Some of 9S' counterattacks have long animations (like the one with Large Swords), and you cannot Evade out of them. So if you do a counterattack that has a long animation to it, you have to commit to it, because you can't dodge out of it if there's another attack coming at you.
Also, unlike 2B, 9S doesn't actually have any i-frames while doing the pod counterattack. Or at least he has SIGNIFICANTLY less i-frames. He also has some pretty useful ranged melee that he'll use if you do an attack while dashing or sprinting.
While 9S doesn't attack as fast or have nearly as flashy combos as 2B, his melee is both really good at a range and passable in close quarters. The fact that Scanner models aren't supposed to be able to fight (as in, they're not made to be able to wield weapons, and 9S actually hacked himself to be able to use weapons) is pretty f***ing amazing & hardcore.
![Kodak Black - Sharp Vibes [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oEV0OoLJeIs/mqdefault.jpg)
Jean-Paul is the real villain of the game
He...still...wont...look...my....way
Holy shit this boss was an emotional rollercoaster (pun intended)
Simone story and louis from replicant is just so alike even the design of her character with the monster alike appearance
Granted 2B didn’t see what 9S saw when linking to Simones memories when hacking. But even when 2B cuts 9S off to dismiss Simones pain with “the machines don’t have feelings” was heartbreaking.
Thats the thing! 9S can cover to story with actual great detail about the enemy. At first glance, just a scary boss - but I was wrong. Learned a whole lot about the boss. Though, did she achieve? Because we see in the flashback that the machine she tried getting attention actually looked up before she died(?)
Also - Sorry im late. I only got reading the description, but I got busy x_X
No worries, all is good. And yeah we get a new perspective with 9S, that starts to blur the lines between good and evil, and starts painting the "enemies" as a bit more gray...
As for the one she loved? Well unfortunately that was tied to a side quest that I'd already finished long ago as 2B, so that will have to wait for me streaming it to revisit, but I think I will - with my much fuller understanding by the time I get to that point - give contextual lore behind the characters as I go, to help streamline the information.
@@Shin_FTW
All right! All questions will be answered. Then I'll question the answer xD
wait so you only see Simone's thoughts if you play as 9S?
the machine whose attention she was trying to get was actually jean-paul! its a nod to the real life relationship between simone de beauvoir and jean-paul sartre :D
When its your first time playing you prob hated this boss, but when you played as 9S,you now know its true pain.
Yesss
Well everyone gets rejected, you don't see the rest of us cannibalizing humans to become more beautiful lmao.
Probably it was that Paul machine.
Yeah thats looks like him.
It was, and if you take up his quests in the village, you see other small machines who are wearing make up, finding jewellery, etc... to catch his eyes, proving that the cycle of machines descending into states like Simone's is only continuing; and he seems to not even care about them.
Jean Paul didn't care about his female admirers and not even about Simone which is very tragic and heart breaking.
yep! its also probably referencing the fact that sartre and de beauvoir were in a relationship in real life
Yeah it looks like it and it looks like another stain on 2b's blade
All she wanted was love... all she craved was to be loved.
Had she only but broadened her search, rather than narrow her gaze...
The waterfall of the eye trickles at simple words.
@@Bakesuta well said.
@@DeetexSeraphine it's funny because I literally just made that up in 5 seconds.
Even this game makes me question about humanity, consciousness, or if our body and mind are truly separate things. Or is our counciousness made of nothing?
Kinda brings me back to philosophy now.
Well I don't think I can answer that either. What I *can* think I confidently say that humanity is, in more ways than one, a heartless, greedy, self-righteous thing
@@nealang9520 Yeah okay, now grow out of your wannabe nihilist phase homie because ain't know one gonna be around someone who can't see the beauty in our existence.
@@dydx_ Welp got me there XD
After all your efforts, it's pointless. In all your hard work, in the end, you gain nothing. Sacrificing your friends and yourself to one person so that he or she can recognize you. But all of it is pointless. She only wanted to be recognized by the man she really loved. So, she puts a lot of effort into that one man she loves so much. She changed herself to be more beautiful because that's what she knew about how to be loved by someone. Too bad she realized that she couldn't win his love when it was too late. After all she has done to her friends and other machine life forms, because of that man. What is love for a machine life form? We all know that machines don't have feelings. It is just their program to know something, adapt to things, or upgrade. My thoughts have two sides. One thing that favors Simone is that she is the first machine who has developed feelings, even if she's a machine and not a human. And one side says that it's impossible because machines are supposed to adapt and upgrade depending on their needs. Gosh! I don't know! Because of Simone, I'm hoping that there will be more games like this that have a machine falling in love and looking for an answer. But. What is love if you are a machine like them? If I'm a machine looking for love, there is no doubt that I'll be like Simone. I was looking for an answer and it took so long to find an answer that I regret everything. Feelings of a machine is so complicated. I can't. Years have passed, but her background story makes me nuts.
Simone: Will you tell me you love me?
Jean-Paul: BEEP BEEP BOOP BOP RESPONSE: WHY DON'T YOU ASK ME LATER?
Damn I'm more traumatized than I thought I would
13:51 …too soon?
This cutscene with the reason she became like this didn’t show to me, I needed to go here to check the whole fight if I missed anything.. n wow, I didn’t even skip like why did it happen to me
I am afraid that there is others thing that I didn’t see
Were you playing as 2B?
@@Shin_FTW yes, 9s is not playable for me yet he is just… there
Just wait until you do, and beyond. Best written character in the game. And his melee combat is actually really top. Perfect Evade > Spear Counterattack > Perfect Evade > Spear Counterattack is both easy to pull off and has infinite i-frames.
Well the robog might actually blind or having error
Nines 😢😢😢
How is Jean Paul the villain? The machine was obsessed...
Not a villain. Just a Sheldon Cooper-esque lacking-any-social-skills asshole.
12:45
Yandere machinev
Hang on a second you didn't erase your data. wtf
I did, but had it backed up on the cloud so that I could help future players *and* keep my file for more use/content xP