I think you are right. Some have said the draft measurement however running aground isn't necessarily a deal breaker. It might be for the CO but ships that have run aground have survived (USS Missouri for an example). Ships that have sunk unless they are in a shallow harbour don't usually get recovered. By the way I've never served in the military let alone the navy so my opinion doesn't really hold much weight.
Reminds me of the only rule houses in the backyards of big houses in the medieval city of Lübeck had to follow: the breakthroughs towards these backyard houses (through the walls of the older, bigger houses) had to be wide enough that one could carry a coffin through them.
I agree. 26" is probably the most important since as you said, everything has to fit through the watertight doorways. Watching that short bit of film of Ryan & another person carrying something through one of those doorways & being all crouched over really made me cringe though. You are going to blow your back out carrying stuff like that. There are furniture moving harnesses' that you wear like a 5 point safety harness or another fits around your shoulders in a double loop fashion. Both have a hook on the front that you attach one or two straps to with the straps going under the object you're carrying. Either of these makes moving large heavy objects like refrigerators & stoves & similar items much easier & safer. For your own safety, look into one of these devices. They're not that expensive compared to back injuries.
Lots of workplace injuries never fully heal, either. You might be dealing with back flare-ups for the rest of your life, and how good of a curator will you be in the day when you struggle to get outta bed in the morning?
@@phillyphakename1255 Great topic! You might also consider moving the light stuff first in order to create a warm-up period for those with older backs. I was also imagining having a rig where (wheel barrow?) handles could be built into a light weight, fully adjustable frame using hold down straps to adjustably attach to the objects to allow the postures with the greatest comfort, adjustability, and safety. A reduction in injuries among members of the whole museum fleet could be considerable!
@tobyw9573 While a nice idea, everything you mentioned is accomplished with the strap systems. Also more user friendly than long handles. And without all the backwoods developement.
On my first visit to the ship, we went into the machine shop and saw the lathe and drill press and other metalworking machinery. The guide said that these items were too big to take on or off the ship, so they literally built the vessel around them. It made sense as a quick explanation, but this fills in the actual reason: they couldn't be taken apart into pieces less than 26 inches wide.
When I worked at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in the submarine silencing group, we had some money to spend for new test equipment. A rep brought a new spectrum analyzer to demo. I took one look at it when he was going on about all of its great features. I cut him off. "What's the diagonal measurement of the enclosure?" He didn't know. I grabbed a tape measure, and said thanks. Not interested. He stammered. "But look at all these great features! This is exactly what you need!!!" "It won't fit down the hatch." "But look at all the things it can do!!!" He never did quite get the point that it had to fit down a 24" diameter hatch. We had Honeywell 101 1" 14 track tape recorders (101 was the model number and coincidentally about the weight!). They had to be factory modified to accept a 3/8" eyebolt in the center of the top to facilitate lowering it through the hatch on a rope.
My opinion is that depending on who you are there are a few measurments that could be considered the most important. When you have the conn the most important measuremant is the distance from the keel to the bottom (and distance from sail to surface if on a sub). When you are fixing or replacing equipment, the most important measurment is the door/hatch sizes
When I was a midshipman, I did a summer tour on an LA class sub. One of the hardest things I've done ship, boat, or plane is maintain periscope depth on the sub at low speeds so we didn't broach the boat. The LA class was not built for periscope depth at a few knots for hours on end like we were doing. It was built for fast, deep running. The helm has to keep a constant eye on in the shallow water depth gauge at the top of the panel, so your neck can get sore. You have to quickly and accurately assess the depth trend because it takes forever for the fairwater planes to do anything at a few knots. At some point you have to get dive involved because you're just fighting the buoyancy of the ship and they need to take on or dump ballast.
Oh, I can see it now: "Okay. 1. 2. 3. Lift it! No Libby! Twist it! No the other way! Watch what I'm doing. Twist in the direction I'm twisting! Alright, alright. No, no, no, no, no, no. Set it down. Put it down! Just set it down! Now, let's just hang on a second and figure this out. Okay, okay. Here's what we're going to do: let's pull the cushions off and take the mattress out. We'll unscrew the legs and this whole thing will go a lot simpler. It's easier than we're making it."
Way back in the 80's or so, Apollo Computer was a manufacturer of workstations and computer hardware; I used to have one on my desk years and years ago. There was an error message that someone coded into their message table: "Error 220009: unit will not fit thru 25″ hatch". Apparently, they'd lost a huge contract because the computer system they built wouldn't fit through the submarine hatch, and the Navy had no desire to cut a hole in the hull to load it. So someone added this dummy error message to the list so it'd not be forgotten.
Makes sense. You can have the biggest baddest warshio evev that can fit in the tightest places but if the doors are too small for the equipment to be installed, have fun getting engines and stuff in
I was stationed on a Fleet Oiler and our most important measurement was draft. It determined where the ship was able to go and was a visual indicator how much fuel it was holding.
What is truly amazing is where all this information is kept. What NAVSHIPS Tech Manual or NAVSEA instruction or drawing. And speaking to some NAVSEA engineers who can readily point to where is this information is kept. A real knowledgeable group! Here is an obscure measurement; Metacentric height!
DRT was one of the pieces of equipment I was responsible for on my ship in the early 2000's. In 4 years on that ship I probably had a half dozen trouble calls on it because the OS's thought the inside of the DRT was a great place to hide a box of candy bars or case of soda and that would interfere with the mechanical movement of the DRT.(Swear I am not rate bashing, when I started standing watch in combat later in me career I loved all your fellows taught me.) Could put a vintage box of Baby Ruth's inside the glass for the display. ;)
Question... When more than one Ship Museum is on a "Strip Trip" , is it finders keepers, turn by turn, or does any particular search party has preference over another?.
I'd like to say, it's not size that counts, it's knowinig what to do, with what you have. Been telling that to the girls since forever. Ryan knows what I'm talking about.
Na man, I'm 24 but I remember reading about the Freedom Class LCSs when they were new in middle or high school, I cant remember. Crazy how they are going into the reserve fleet.
Meanwhile, my first USCG cutter was 50 years old when I was on it. My second cutter was 30. Second one took me to the middle east. Both are in foreign navies now. One ship from WWII, the other Vietnam.
Door width may not be the most "important" dimension on the ship, but it's probably the dimension that impacts the day-to-day life of those on board the most.
I googled it, but I'm not sure if Ryan's version and goggle's version are the same, my first guess was how much firepower a ship has☺ I'm an Air Force guy so for us it was how much ordnance a plane can deliver and how fast it can get to a target. A AC130, B1B and a A10C can deliver quite a hurt on ground targets if need be.
26 Inches. That would be the width of the standard watertight door, and therefore any hatch that penetrates the Citadel. @ 5:45 HA! Told ya'll so. I will also, at this point, add that even if you CAN sling a load on Broadways cross ammo loading rail.... You have to get it down to Broadway FIRST. And guess what? Again, 26" applies!
Exactly, That determines if the Commanding Officer, keeps his position. Or shuffles supply forms at a desk in Idaho for running his Battleship aground!
Is there equipment which does not break down to 24” wide? For example, on the tour of Broadway, at time 6:30, a big hatch is shown in the floor above Engine Room #1. It looks larger than 26” square.
All depends on where you park. I used to visit the DRPA building in the docks. I was always able to park behind the guarded gate, so my main worry was a flat tire. And I got several after trips there. I was also told that there were still warehouse sections from when it was the shipyard. Still with naval spares. That might be worth the curators exploring. I also visited several schools in north Camden as a substitute teacher. No issues there other than picking up an occasional shell casing in the parking lot.
Weight Capacity/Cargo displacement is in reality for an active ship the most important measurement, if you overload 1 side ship will capsize, to much weight it is liable to sink, ballast can only do so much to counter, any physical measurement is already set therefore pre-accounted for in the well designed phase of any project
An interesting video could be what is the most irreplaceable components on the ship. Like what is the most unique piece of equipment specific to New Jersey that no other ship has or you’d consider the rarest. And no stuff like the bell and china do not count.
Hull width for the Panama Canal, and top heavy weight. Those I think are more crucial than door size. If the door size is not the same as every other navy ship, at least you know what size you’ve got to work with. It’s not going to affect the operation of the ship when she’s at sea.
3:45 thats kinda crazy that was just some dudes ... job? "Hey you do the math for our shore bombardment" Must have been a crazy job. would love to see how they did it.
I would have guessed that the most important measurement was the distance between the deck and the water. When that goes negative, things get a bit dicey.
the angle of the dangle is inversely proportional to the heat of the meat, provided that the maxis of the axis, and the gravity of the cavity, remain constant.
I didn't know it was 26 inches, but at least a knew the answer. Armor, armament is all irrelevant if the items needed to control the ship, communicate, plot, etc. cannot be added because they won't fit through doors and/or hatches.
If I had to pick one thing, buoyancy in excess of mass probably has to be #1. Once we ensure that our ship is reliably floating, then I'd probably have to go with height of CG above CB as the next most important measurement (I may be a traditionalist, but I put high value on floating upright...but hey, each to their own). Now that it is floating upright, we can move on to other important things like the hatch dimensions.
Not a fan of SS Imperator then? And yes, Buoyancy - Mass is pretty important for a ship. If it's negative, then either it's a submarine which is a boat and not a ship or it's a ship that's about to become a submarine unexpectedly.
Question: How much of the ship's spaces are currently heated? Is it done by a central heating system or individual heaters in specific spaces? i.e. store, on board offices, etc.
We've got a heating boiler that heats about a third of the ship, so most of the tour route. The engine rooms were never heated so those don't have the plumbing for it and are still cold but most other places are
I noticed the watertight doors along Broadway are significantly wider. What width are they, and why? Is it to allow two people to simultaneously pass in opposite directions?
As a naval architect/marine engineer, I'd personally say most critical measurement to any ship is GM.. metacentric height too great, and the ship jerks around too much for the crew, guns or anything else to function.. metacentric hight too small, and the ship rolls over, glub, glub.. 😁
my guess is how tall the ship is because the last thing you wanna do is drop a suspension bridge on it the width of the hatches is also pretty limiting though
I thought he was going to say the draft depth is the most important measurement on a ship. Since if you run aground you become a stationary target and could lose the entire ship that way.
Did you get anything off the Elrod? I know you said it was in Phillie the other time you got stuff off of mothballed ships. My son served on the Elrod in the mid 2000's.
When I was in the Navy, the most important measurement to me was the amount of water on the wrong side of the hull.
most important number wa days left to EAOS.
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I think you are right. Some have said the draft measurement however running aground isn't necessarily a deal breaker. It might be for the CO but ships that have run aground have survived (USS Missouri for an example). Ships that have sunk unless they are in a shallow harbour don't usually get recovered. By the way I've never served in the military let alone the navy so my opinion doesn't really hold much weight.
Reminds me of the only rule houses in the backyards of big houses in the medieval city of Lübeck had to follow: the breakthroughs towards these backyard houses (through the walls of the older, bigger houses) had to be wide enough that one could carry a coffin through them.
Ryan, you make naval history unbelievably fascinating - thank you.
The most important takeaway from this video, at least for me, is Ryan's enthousiasm describing his haul.
Draft. Most important for all past and current ships. You won't have a ship long if you don't know your draft and pay attention to it.
I agree. 26" is probably the most important since as you said, everything has to fit through the watertight doorways. Watching that short bit of film of Ryan & another person carrying something through one of those doorways & being all crouched over really made me cringe though. You are going to blow your back out carrying stuff like that. There are furniture moving harnesses' that you wear like a 5 point safety harness or another fits around your shoulders in a double loop fashion. Both have a hook on the front that you attach one or two straps to with the straps going under the object you're carrying. Either of these makes moving large heavy objects like refrigerators & stoves & similar items much easier & safer. For your own safety, look into one of these devices. They're not that expensive compared to back injuries.
Lots of workplace injuries never fully heal, either. You might be dealing with back flare-ups for the rest of your life, and how good of a curator will you be in the day when you struggle to get outta bed in the morning?
@@phillyphakename1255 Great topic! You might also consider moving the light stuff first in order to create a warm-up period for those with older backs. I was also imagining having a rig where (wheel barrow?) handles could be built into a light weight, fully adjustable frame using hold down straps to adjustably attach to the objects to allow the postures with the greatest comfort, adjustability, and safety. A reduction in injuries among members of the whole museum fleet could be considerable!
@tobyw9573 While a nice idea, everything you mentioned is accomplished with the strap systems. Also more user friendly than long handles. And without all the backwoods developement.
I would say Draft and sounding as your ship can essentially become an office building right off the slipway.
On my first visit to the ship, we went into the machine shop and saw the lathe and drill press and other metalworking machinery. The guide said that these items were too big to take on or off the ship, so they literally built the vessel around them. It made sense as a quick explanation, but this fills in the actual reason: they couldn't be taken apart into pieces less than 26 inches wide.
When I worked at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in the submarine silencing group, we had some money to spend for new test equipment.
A rep brought a new spectrum analyzer to demo. I took one look at it when he was going on about all of its great features. I cut him off. "What's the diagonal measurement of the enclosure?" He didn't know. I grabbed a tape measure, and said thanks. Not interested. He stammered. "But look at all these great features! This is exactly what you need!!!"
"It won't fit down the hatch."
"But look at all the things it can do!!!"
He never did quite get the point that it had to fit down a 24" diameter hatch.
We had Honeywell 101 1" 14 track tape recorders (101 was the model number and coincidentally about the weight!). They had to be factory modified to accept a 3/8" eyebolt in the center of the top to facilitate lowering it through the hatch on a rope.
The maximum distance to a head.
My opinion is that depending on who you are there are a few measurments that could be considered the most important. When you have the conn the most important measuremant is the distance from the keel to the bottom (and distance from sail to surface if on a sub). When you are fixing or replacing equipment, the most important measurment is the door/hatch sizes
When I was a midshipman, I did a summer tour on an LA class sub. One of the hardest things I've done ship, boat, or plane is maintain periscope depth on the sub at low speeds so we didn't broach the boat. The LA class was not built for periscope depth at a few knots for hours on end like we were doing. It was built for fast, deep running. The helm has to keep a constant eye on in the shallow water depth gauge at the top of the panel, so your neck can get sore. You have to quickly and accurately assess the depth trend because it takes forever for the fairwater planes to do anything at a few knots. At some point you have to get dive involved because you're just fighting the buoyancy of the ship and they need to take on or dump ballast.
Draft was my first thought
Agreed!!!
When I build my sailboat, it´ll have a most important measurement as well.
Nailed it...door, too easy.
Oh, I can see it now: "Okay. 1. 2. 3. Lift it! No Libby! Twist it! No the other way! Watch what I'm doing. Twist in the direction I'm twisting! Alright, alright. No, no, no, no, no, no. Set it down. Put it down! Just set it down! Now, let's just hang on a second and figure this out. Okay, okay. Here's what we're going to do: let's pull the cushions off and take the mattress out. We'll unscrew the legs and this whole thing will go a lot simpler. It's easier than we're making it."
i'm right there with you
Family Guy, the Star Wars episode when Han Solo is taking the couch out of the trash compactor.
Pivot!
@@thomasharvanek2411beat me to it 😂
The best show on the internet. Great videos all the time.
Congratulations on your acquisitions
Way back in the 80's or so, Apollo Computer was a manufacturer of workstations and computer hardware; I used to have one on my desk years and years ago. There was an error message that someone coded into their message table: "Error 220009: unit will not fit thru 25″ hatch". Apparently, they'd lost a huge contract because the computer system they built wouldn't fit through the submarine hatch, and the Navy had no desire to cut a hole in the hull to load it. So someone added this dummy error message to the list so it'd not be forgotten.
Makes sense. You can have the biggest baddest warshio evev that can fit in the tightest places but if the doors are too small for the equipment to be installed, have fun getting engines and stuff in
I was stationed on a Fleet Oiler and our most important measurement was draft. It determined where the ship was able to go and was a visual indicator how much fuel it was holding.
What is truly amazing is where all this information is kept. What NAVSHIPS Tech Manual or NAVSEA instruction or drawing. And speaking to some NAVSEA engineers who can readily point to where is this information is kept. A real knowledgeable group! Here is an obscure measurement; Metacentric height!
DRT was one of the pieces of equipment I was responsible for on my ship in the early 2000's. In 4 years on that ship I probably had a half dozen trouble calls on it because the OS's thought the inside of the DRT was a great place to hide a box of candy bars or case of soda and that would interfere with the mechanical movement of the DRT.(Swear I am not rate bashing, when I started standing watch in combat later in me career I loved all your fellows taught me.) Could put a vintage box of Baby Ruth's inside the glass for the display. ;)
Called it.
Keep rocking It New Jersey !!
Question... When more than one Ship Museum is on a "Strip Trip" , is it finders keepers, turn by turn, or does any particular search party has preference over another?.
The girth of it's guns
TIME VS BEARING, through number one scope
Fuel remaining
I'd like to say, it's not size that counts, it's knowinig what to do, with what you have.
Been telling that to the girls since forever.
Ryan knows what I'm talking about.
Same! That explains why I don't get it that much...And all the laughing...😢
Freedom Class LCSs -- always amazed when I hear they are in the reserve fleet. Then again, maybe I'm that old.
Na man, I'm 24 but I remember reading about the Freedom Class LCSs when they were new in middle or high school, I cant remember. Crazy how they are going into the reserve fleet.
no, they are just that big of a pile of junk.
You're not old, they are just piles of steaming crap.
Meanwhile, my first USCG cutter was 50 years old when I was on it. My second cutter was 30. Second one took me to the middle east.
Both are in foreign navies now. One ship from WWII, the other Vietnam.
How long until shore leave?😎
Favorite response so far
liberty is secured until morale improves!
Only officers get shore leave. Enlisted pukes get liberty. If they're lucky.
Range to target
Especially when combined with bearing (as in “bearing steady, range decreasing”)
This goes hard af 😂
You’ve got that right!
One could also argue for ship power voltage. Sensitive electrical equipment really doesn't like being fed the wrong juice.
Before watching the video, I'll say the most important measurement is the size of the ice cream maker and the capacity of the coffee pots.
most important measurement is the size of the cookie sheet trays in the bakery oven😋
DUMPSTER DIVING 👍🏽🤠🤗
Love it -
Door width may not be the most "important" dimension on the ship, but it's probably the dimension that impacts the day-to-day life of those on board the most.
I googled it, but I'm not sure if Ryan's version and goggle's version are the same, my first guess was how much firepower a ship has☺
I'm an Air Force guy so for us it was how much ordnance a plane can deliver and how fast it can get to a target.
A AC130, B1B and a A10C can deliver quite a hurt on ground targets if need be.
26 Inches. That would be the width of the standard watertight door, and therefore any hatch that penetrates the Citadel.
@ 5:45 HA! Told ya'll so. I will also, at this point, add that even if you CAN sling a load on Broadways cross ammo loading rail.... You have to get it down to Broadway FIRST. And guess what? Again, 26" applies!
I would say the draft is also pretty important. Considering it dictates where a ship can even go
Ya gotta get it through the hatch to get yer haul out on the deck.
Depth of the water under the keel. Was my guess.
Exactly, That determines if the Commanding Officer, keeps his position. Or shuffles supply forms at a desk in Idaho for running his Battleship aground!
Most important measurement of a battleship is the size if the pancakes followed by size of donuts.
I should have guessed -- we use to have a Harris computer that was specifically designed to fit through a 26" hatch.
Is there equipment which does not break down to 24” wide?
For example, on the tour of Broadway, at time 6:30, a big hatch is shown in the floor above Engine Room #1. It looks larger than 26” square.
Depth under the keel!
Yes water under the keel , ask another battleship
Brave leaving it out in the open in Camden. I was worried about parking my car for 10 minutes to grab a pack of smokes. 😂
All depends on where you park. I used to visit the DRPA building in the docks. I was always able to park behind the guarded gate, so my main worry was a flat tire. And I got several after trips there. I was also told that there were still warehouse sections from when it was the shipyard. Still with naval spares. That might be worth the curators exploring.
I also visited several schools in north Camden as a substitute teacher. No issues there other than picking up an occasional shell casing in the parking lot.
The width in order to fit thru the Panama Canal.
Ryan is silly we all know the most important measurement is the unit of curator. Well, at least on a museum ship! :)
Weight Capacity/Cargo displacement is in reality for an active ship the most important measurement, if you overload 1 side ship will capsize, to much weight it is liable to sink, ballast can only do so much to counter, any physical measurement is already set therefore pre-accounted for in the well designed phase of any project
Where did you manage to find a DRT from WWII on a Tico, Perry, or Freedom class?
GM is pretty important.
An interesting video could be what is the most irreplaceable components on the ship. Like what is the most unique piece of equipment specific to New Jersey that no other ship has or you’d consider the rarest. And no stuff like the bell and china do not count.
Hull width for the Panama Canal, and top heavy weight. Those I think are more crucial than door size. If the door size is not the same as every other navy ship, at least you know what size you’ve got to work with. It’s not going to affect the operation of the ship when she’s at sea.
3:45 thats kinda crazy that was just some dudes ... job? "Hey you do the math for our shore bombardment" Must have been a crazy job. would love to see how they did it.
The dead reckoning tracer is a mechanical computer. I'm sure Ryan will have a video explaining it as soon as it's installed!
Center of gravity would be my guess, would not want her to become top heavy and topple over when mother nature gets a bit active with waves and wind.
Would metacentric height be a better predictor of stability.
Hello Ryan, is any of the equipment, such as the bombarment computer, powered up at all?
I would have guessed that the most important measurement was the distance between the deck and the water. When that goes negative, things get a bit dicey.
the angle of the dangle is inversely proportional to the heat of the meat, provided that the maxis of the axis, and the gravity of the cavity, remain constant.
Sitting down to blank piece of paper, the first question must be, "How wide is smallest canal the vessel will need to transit?"
Draft. If you are stuck on the bottom, nothing else matters.
Everyone knows it's Curators
I agree, anything going through a ships watertight door must be 1/3 Curator or less. 😊
Yeah, it's really rough when you get a new one and have to rebuild the entire ship to match the new guy's length.
I didn't know it was 26 inches, but at least a knew the answer. Armor, armament is all irrelevant if the items needed to control the ship, communicate, plot, etc. cannot be added because they won't fit through doors and/or hatches.
Displacement!
Distance to the leeward rail when feeling seasick.
Time spent in port is the most important measurement.
I was thinking List and Pitch... Happy to be wrong
I’m a fan of a British radio comedy called the Navy Lark. They keep forgetting how wide their ship is and keep hitting things……
If I had to pick one thing, buoyancy in excess of mass probably has to be #1.
Once we ensure that our ship is reliably floating, then I'd probably have to go with height of CG above CB as the next most important measurement (I may be a traditionalist, but I put high value on floating upright...but hey, each to their own). Now that it is floating upright, we can move on to other important things like the hatch dimensions.
Not a fan of SS Imperator then? And yes, Buoyancy - Mass is pretty important for a ship. If it's negative, then either it's a submarine which is a boat and not a ship or it's a ship that's about to become a submarine unexpectedly.
Do the museum ships have a pecking order for strip trips or is it first come first served?
Tins of coffee in stores
Luce hall at the naval academy has one of those mechanical computers…
What ever happened to all the Iowa class spare parts on Charleston?
Surplus buoyancy.
Most important measurement is the length of the chow line.
dang that DRT is trashed. missing all the good bits inside. synchros, stepper motors gears. its wizardy the first time you open one up in A school.
Could you make a unit that is composed of smaller units easy to fit accurately together.
Question: How much of the ship's spaces are currently heated? Is it done by a central heating system or individual heaters in specific spaces? i.e. store, on board offices, etc.
We've got a heating boiler that heats about a third of the ship, so most of the tour route. The engine rooms were never heated so those don't have the plumbing for it and are still cold but most other places are
I'm doing a Model of the USS Massachusetts, Learning about ww2 dazzle camo right now
If I fits, I sits!
The size of the sea chest and how easy it is for a new sailor to open?
It's where the polka dot paint is stored, everyone knows that.
The key to the sea chest is kept near the steam blankets under the watchful eye of the mail bouey watch.
If you go to the fireroom and ask for a BT punch they'll show you where it is
💯If you are the security manager and you are moving 250lb GSA safes, for example.
I noticed the watertight doors along Broadway are significantly wider. What width are they, and why? Is it to allow two people to simultaneously pass in opposite directions?
During my time in the Navy was how much water you had on your draft .
The amount of coffee put into the pot.
As a naval architect/marine engineer, I'd personally say most critical measurement to any ship is GM.. metacentric height too great, and the ship jerks around too much for the crew, guns or anything else to function.. metacentric hight too small, and the ship rolls over, glub, glub.. 😁
my guess is how tall the ship is because the last thing you wanna do is drop a suspension bridge on it
the width of the hatches is also pretty limiting though
I thought he was going to say the draft depth is the most important measurement on a ship. Since if you run aground you become a stationary target and could lose the entire ship that way.
Was there anything from the JFK carrier?
How much fuel is in the tank
good point, no argument here.
Striptrip. LOL
Pretty sure the thrust bearing dimensions are very important. Without that, the ship can't move under power.
Draught. Has to be. Its the only one that will bite you if you forget it.
will it fit through the canal.
They yield of the dive bomb that's about to turn your battleship into a coral reef
Rate of production per hour of the doughnut shop?
Gallons per hour of coffee brewing?
i'm going to go with depth of water below keel.
Did you get anything off the Elrod? I know you said it was in Phillie the other time you got stuff off of mothballed ships. My son served on the Elrod in the mid 2000's.
On a previous trip we did.
Thanks
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I think that musem ships should be before any foriegn ship period