>>>>>> PA NERF-HAMMER Guys, PA nerfed this strategy a couple of months ago. We are still optimizing Crypt and trying to be better there every day. Join us in the Goblin Cave Discord to learn more! ►Goblin Cave Discord: discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9 >>>>>>>>>>> I FORGOT TO MENTION that if you are able to overpull packs, that is stack two packs and clear them AND full clear Main, you can skip the cliff pack and go into Lower, since you're over pulling anyway. being able to overpull multiple packs in Lower may have more value due to nearby mobs capable of being overpulled. it's difficult to say, you will have to experiment and practice, as it differs too much class to class and player to player. The faster you clear, the less you should prioritize anything other than DKs when looping for the DKs. I talk about this more in the Goblin Cave, in the crypt-elite-rotation channel. Join to learn more! discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9 1. I somehow accidentally deleted my ground hour I was going to upload with this video. I will be recording and uploading a new one ASAP!!!! 2. Everyone should grind however they want, in whatever manner works, and is comfortable for you. This video showcases how I grind at Crypt, using a method I refer to as the Elite Rotation. As a grinder, my purpose is to benchmark different approaches to grinding. The views expressed are my opinions, formed after dozens of hours of grinding, meticulously tracking results. 3. My goal is to learn new strategies and share what I've learned with you. I encourage you to share your thoughts and experiences with me as well. Together, we can explore different grinding methods and find what works best for each of us :) Join us in the Goblin Cave Discord! discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9 It's a community I just made for min-max grinders to talk about.. min-max grinding and stuff. It's brand new, so come say hello, and let's improve the Elite Rotation together :)
Can you tell me how this was nerfed? After an hour of checking, I can't see how this was nerfed. Sadly, PA's updates about things like these are just really not on point and not newbie friendly
@@BlikDota2 Sure. Essentially, they changed the way DK's spawn. I was never able to conclude how or what triggers DK's to consistently spawn, because even now, when grinded 'normally', DKs are inconsistent. Sometimes they spawn in 7 minutes, sometimes less, sometimes more, it's a mess. Additionally, when rotating between all of the rooms, often, the DKs won't spawn. This just means that all of the walking you're doing ends up being wasted, as you aren't getting a DK + elite + mobs each rotation. Nowadays, the best way to grind Crypt is, sadly, to get really good at your class + crypt specifically, or, reroll (usually still requires getting good, as Crypt is a lot different to most grind zones).
@@sleepingsage thanks, is it better to grind in the marni realm? You said in the video that there's a 3-minute timer for the elites there, is that still in effect or was that nerfed too along with the things you said earlier?
@@BlikDota2 Generally, no, because it's still fewer DKs/hr than doing Main+Lower. You can get similar trash/hr, but that is not what makes Crypt good. It isn't why you grind at Crypt.
@@sleepingsage I tried the Marni realm and you're right, even though the trash loot is actually higher than I usually get, the Dark Knight only appeared 3 times. Thanks for answering my questions, I appreciate. One last question, can I ask if a Dark Knight appears in the room in 3:!7? Because I haven't seen a dark knight there even once, I only got the dark knight on the three rooms (the marni room, the upper room and the one on the entrance)
Yep, I've done two hours so far and it's fun gliding from room to room. Just takes some time to learn the correct path to each room, you can easily get lost in there. hahaha 😂
Yes. I am moving right now and getting my office setup. Currently running into some issues with the installation at the new place, so I haven't been able to get a video recorded and uploaded 😩
Do you think this would still be an improvement in trash for players with a higher clear rate? AFAIK the top grinders are clearing 25.5-26k on 2-room rotation (Marni + downhill). I agree though that even comparable trash with more DKs should be a higher belt droprate, but 15-25% more trash would put those players over 30k.
Yes, it's still an improvement, because you're only rotating when DKs are spawned. a DK loop for fast clearers should be even faster. Naturally, classes with better mobility and superior clearing will be able to leverage this advantage more. Also, even if for some reason it ends up being net-neutral, you can still apply the concepts to the standard 2-room variant. Using all 4 rooms is not required, it's just the upper limit of what is possible. Things like taking advantage of known timers, such as DK spawns and keeping a tight respawn on them by killing them as quickly as possible, not wasting time leashing the Marni Bear, efficiently killing the Bear in Lower, leashing the Wolf in Main, are what are important, so you can personally optimize the rotation to suit your grind. All of these things are room-independent mechanics and apply generally at Crypt. So far, no one I know has gotten less than a 15% increase where a skill issue wasn't the primary reason.
@@alienturtle5448yeah iirc he told me his highest was 25.9k. I don't play Mystic or Succ Witch so I can't really attest to what the rotation's like. I am sure there are several considerations that'd required a few hours' observation. Or maybe not. haha. We shall see.
Could you give a quick Insight in how to handle accuracy at this Spot? Ive seen People either stacking Acc with cheap Crystals and Insight perfumes or People taking 2 elkarrs and thats it. Should you Always try to grind without any misses or are some misses okay because of the damage you gain by not stacking accuracy Like a crazy person?
If your ability is for damage, in that it is a part of your main combo and is responsible for mobs dying, it needs to hit. I highly recommend using garmoth.com for your character. once everything is filled out and accurately reflects your character, it becomes very easy to calculate things like hit rate. If you have Discord, join the Goblin Cave discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9 and I can help you more actively. RUclips comments are a bit slow :) Otherwise, it's difficult to say. I could tell you the answer, but a lot of people find it controversial. My next video is specifically about this topic, optimizing your build for Crypt, regardless of class. If you want the simple answer, don't take as much AP as you think you need, and you might be surprised at what you find :)
@@sleepingsage that is a smart answer, keeping me glued to the screen waiting for your next Video :D but thanks, you already said enough. It makes sense If I want my big hits to not miss 5% of the time and rather sacrifice some ap for accuracy. Looking at Garmoth I would need 2 Elkarrs and 2 Vipers to hit 98% of the time. But then, where to allocate it. Use exquisite instead of simple? Or Insight instead of Courage? Ominous instead of Jetina? Vipers (elkarrs already equipped) instead of Macalods or rather instead of Decimations?
@@jonimohniDon't use Courage, do use Exquisite. Do you have a Garmoth link to your gear? As long as your are >830 AP with Exquisite, you should be using that, unless you want/prefer the -6% damage from monsters found on Simple Cron Meal.
No, not anymore.. Sadly PA nerfed this a couple of months ago. :( We are still optimizing Crypt in the Discord, though. Feel free to join if interested.
Nowadays most of us are running hooms + either olucas or decimations or bitterness depending on class and its capabilities. AP doesn't significantly translate to faster time to kill (ttk) on mobs, and so we prioritize defensives/accuracy. However, after the upcoming DR changes, a lot of this durability won't be necessary, and we can slot in other things. Despite this, AP still won't be very beneficial, and the reason is simple: Crypt mobs have an insanely low DR cap which prevents most damage scaling. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. Same story at Ash btw.
Shortly after I revealed this method, PA nerfed almost every aspect of it. :( However, the core principles still stand. The key is to prioritize clearing elite enemies and focus on taking down the DKs quickly. By doing so, you can avoid missing spawns due to the accumulated time that results from repeatedly delaying the defeat of the DKs.
You can grind Main + Lower. I have a couple of things to test, but PA patched everything that enabled the Elite Rotation :( It seems they did not like my video lol
I aim to speak at a comfortable, natural pace to ensure clarity and allow viewers to absorb the information. However, I'm glad RUclips provides playback speed options to accommodate different preferences. I, too, typically listen to content at 1.25x-1.5x depending on the speaker, so I understand completely :)
I understand the challenge of grinding all 4 rooms with Crypt's popularity. As mentioned in the video, however, the 4-room rotation is optional, and not what defines the Elite Rotation for grinding. The 'Elite Rotation' principles leverage advantages by adhering strictly to mechanics. You can apply this logic to the 2, 3, or 4 room variants. Hopefully this clarifies things, because this guide is for everyone grinding Crypt, not those strictly trying to grind 4 rooms.
>>>>>> PA NERF-HAMMER
Guys, PA nerfed this strategy a couple of months ago. We are still optimizing Crypt and trying to be better there every day. Join us in the Goblin Cave Discord to learn more!
►Goblin Cave Discord: discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9
>>>>>>>>>>> I FORGOT TO MENTION that if you are able to overpull packs, that is stack two packs and clear them AND full clear Main, you can skip the cliff pack and go into Lower, since you're over pulling anyway. being able to overpull multiple packs in Lower may have more value due to nearby mobs capable of being overpulled. it's difficult to say, you will have to experiment and practice, as it differs too much class to class and player to player. The faster you clear, the less you should prioritize anything other than DKs when looping for the DKs. I talk about this more in the Goblin Cave, in the crypt-elite-rotation channel. Join to learn more! discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9
1. I somehow accidentally deleted my ground hour I was going to upload with this video. I will be recording and uploading a new one ASAP!!!!
2. Everyone should grind however they want, in whatever manner works, and is comfortable for you. This video showcases how I grind at Crypt, using a method I refer to as the Elite Rotation. As a grinder, my purpose is to benchmark different approaches to grinding. The views expressed are my opinions, formed after dozens of hours of grinding, meticulously tracking results.
3. My goal is to learn new strategies and share what I've learned with you. I encourage you to share your thoughts and experiences with me as well. Together, we can explore different grinding methods and find what works best for each of us :)
Join us in the Goblin Cave Discord! discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9 It's a community I just made for min-max grinders to talk about.. min-max grinding and stuff. It's brand new, so come say hello, and let's improve the Elite Rotation together :)
Can you tell me how this was nerfed? After an hour of checking, I can't see how this was nerfed. Sadly, PA's updates about things like these are just really not on point and not newbie friendly
@@BlikDota2 Sure. Essentially, they changed the way DK's spawn. I was never able to conclude how or what triggers DK's to consistently spawn, because even now, when grinded 'normally', DKs are inconsistent. Sometimes they spawn in 7 minutes, sometimes less, sometimes more, it's a mess. Additionally, when rotating between all of the rooms, often, the DKs won't spawn. This just means that all of the walking you're doing ends up being wasted, as you aren't getting a DK + elite + mobs each rotation.
Nowadays, the best way to grind Crypt is, sadly, to get really good at your class + crypt specifically, or, reroll (usually still requires getting good, as Crypt is a lot different to most grind zones).
@@sleepingsage thanks, is it better to grind in the marni realm? You said in the video that there's a 3-minute timer for the elites there, is that still in effect or was that nerfed too along with the things you said earlier?
@@BlikDota2 Generally, no, because it's still fewer DKs/hr than doing Main+Lower. You can get similar trash/hr, but that is not what makes Crypt good. It isn't why you grind at Crypt.
@@sleepingsage I tried the Marni realm and you're right, even though the trash loot is actually higher than I usually get, the Dark Knight only appeared 3 times. Thanks for answering my questions, I appreciate. One last question, can I ask if a Dark Knight appears in the room in 3:!7? Because I haven't seen a dark knight there even once, I only got the dark knight on the three rooms (the marni room, the upper room and the one on the entrance)
Wow, this is the highest quality guide I've ever seen lol, good shit
Thanks for the kind words :D
i knew absolutely nothing about crypt, but this video was amazing.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Answers all the questions I had in my mind 😮💨Huge tips thanks!
Glad it helped :)
Great video and I plan to try out this strategy. I am a succ Lahn main player and have 316 ap.
Glad you enjoyed the vid!
It is very good for Lahn! I think you will enjoy it :)
Yep, I've done two hours so far and it's fun gliding from room to room. Just takes some time to learn the correct path to each room, you can easily get lost in there. hahaha 😂
Me not goblin but still good video to get some good information on how to improve. If I ever go back to crypt imma be taking these tips with me
Nice, big help!
Will there also be a full 1hour grind video of you pulling it off?
Yes. I am moving right now and getting my office setup. Currently running into some issues with the installation at the new place, so I haven't been able to get a video recorded and uploaded 😩
Great video and explanation dude. cheers
Much appreciated! Glad you liked it!
holy shit i just grind crypt coz i just reach the certain GS thank you sage 100/10
This guy is NEITHER Sleeping NOR a sage
UNBELIEVABLE
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Inconceivable!
this is good stuff!
Glad you liked it!
Do you think this would still be an improvement in trash for players with a higher clear rate? AFAIK the top grinders are clearing 25.5-26k on 2-room rotation (Marni + downhill). I agree though that even comparable trash with more DKs should be a higher belt droprate, but 15-25% more trash would put those players over 30k.
Yes, it's still an improvement, because you're only rotating when DKs are spawned. a DK loop for fast clearers should be even faster. Naturally, classes with better mobility and superior clearing will be able to leverage this advantage more.
Also, even if for some reason it ends up being net-neutral, you can still apply the concepts to the standard 2-room variant. Using all 4 rooms is not required, it's just the upper limit of what is possible.
Things like taking advantage of known timers, such as DK spawns and keeping a tight respawn on them by killing them as quickly as possible, not wasting time leashing the Marni Bear, efficiently killing the Bear in Lower, leashing the Wolf in Main, are what are important, so you can personally optimize the rotation to suit your grind. All of these things are room-independent mechanics and apply generally at Crypt.
So far, no one I know has gotten less than a 15% increase where a skill issue wasn't the primary reason.
On another note, I'm trying to convince Clome to try it out. I think he's giving in >:)
@@sleepingsage Excellent, I know he has passed 26k on the 2 rooms.
@@alienturtle5448yeah iirc he told me his highest was 25.9k. I don't play Mystic or Succ Witch so I can't really attest to what the rotation's like. I am sure there are several considerations that'd required a few hours' observation. Or maybe not. haha. We shall see.
great giude thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Long time no see
Yes, I made a Discord for myself. And then another! haha Welcome back :)
@@sleepingsage olun deikia later bro!
Could you give a quick Insight in how to handle accuracy at this Spot?
Ive seen People either stacking Acc with cheap Crystals and Insight perfumes or People taking 2 elkarrs and thats it.
Should you Always try to grind without any misses or are some misses okay because of the damage you gain by not stacking accuracy Like a crazy person?
If your ability is for damage, in that it is a part of your main combo and is responsible for mobs dying, it needs to hit. I highly recommend using garmoth.com for your character. once everything is filled out and accurately reflects your character, it becomes very easy to calculate things like hit rate.
If you have Discord, join the Goblin Cave discord.gg/pmBvHqTmB9 and I can help you more actively. RUclips comments are a bit slow :)
Otherwise, it's difficult to say. I could tell you the answer, but a lot of people find it controversial. My next video is specifically about this topic, optimizing your build for Crypt, regardless of class. If you want the simple answer, don't take as much AP as you think you need, and you might be surprised at what you find :)
@@sleepingsage that is a smart answer, keeping me glued to the screen waiting for your next Video :D but thanks, you already said enough. It makes sense If I want my big hits to not miss 5% of the time and rather sacrifice some ap for accuracy. Looking at Garmoth I would need 2 Elkarrs and 2 Vipers to hit 98% of the time. But then, where to allocate it. Use exquisite instead of simple? Or Insight instead of Courage? Ominous instead of Jetina? Vipers (elkarrs already equipped) instead of Macalods or rather instead of Decimations?
@@jonimohniDon't use courage. Use exquisite. Ominous, vipers. Skip decimations + macs. trust me ;) whatever combo gets you to 100%.
@@sleepingsage dont use Courage? or do you mean simple?
@@jonimohniDon't use Courage, do use Exquisite. Do you have a Garmoth link to your gear? As long as your are >830 AP with Exquisite, you should be using that, unless you want/prefer the -6% damage from monsters found on Simple Cron Meal.
Is this woking ? every time i go to the other room i dont see the dark knight even if i went and agro them at the start
No, not anymore.. Sadly PA nerfed this a couple of months ago. :(
We are still optimizing Crypt in the Discord, though. Feel free to join if interested.
for the algo (:
got a crystal setup? or just basic, as chasers stun, maybe some stun resist
Nowadays most of us are running hooms + either olucas or decimations or bitterness depending on class and its capabilities. AP doesn't significantly translate to faster time to kill (ttk) on mobs, and so we prioritize defensives/accuracy. However, after the upcoming DR changes, a lot of this durability won't be necessary, and we can slot in other things. Despite this, AP still won't be very beneficial, and the reason is simple: Crypt mobs have an insanely low DR cap which prevents most damage scaling. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. Same story at Ash btw.
Does this method currently work?
The way DarkKight appears has been changed.
Shortly after I revealed this method, PA nerfed almost every aspect of it. :( However, the core principles still stand. The key is to prioritize clearing elite enemies and focus on taking down the DKs quickly. By doing so, you can avoid missing spawns due to the accumulated time that results from repeatedly delaying the defeat of the DKs.
@@sleepingsage so do we just kill the elites in the other rooms now? I tried your method and the dks were incosistent since the update
@@vaggelisv.8273 Yeah PA nerfed the Elite Rotation.. We can only grind Main + Lower now or DKs break.
they update the darknight so we can grind only 1 room now right?
You can grind Main + Lower. I have a couple of things to test, but PA patched everything that enabled the Elite Rotation :( It seems they did not like my video lol
hey did you have any gears advice's and cristal's build ? i feel so lost when i grind there ^^' I'm 306 AP 391 DP btw
Send me a garmoth link and I will send you something back ^^
@@sleepingsage did you get my garmoth link ? i'm not shure if youtube send my last message ^^'
Nope, I don't see another comment. Send it again and I will look at it tomorrow after I sleep :)
@@sleepingsage Look on you verification message for the video I think we are not aloed to send links in coms
@@iorage2824 Oh I will check it! Thanks for letting me know, didn't think about that!
commenting for algo
Commenting back for algo 🙏
its outdated ?> or its works untill today?
PA nerfed the mechanics that made it possible :(
Whats your hardware specs sir?. Fps?
Bad. I haven't upgraded in some years. 2070 super with an 8700k.
I'm upgrading in the next couple of months to a 7950x3d and a 4090.
@@sleepingsage 4090’s huge. Playing BDO in 4k then
Thats... helpful vid, but it should be speed up to atlest 1.25 or its unbearable...
I aim to speak at a comfortable, natural pace to ensure clarity and allow viewers to absorb the information. However, I'm glad RUclips provides playback speed options to accommodate different preferences. I, too, typically listen to content at 1.25x-1.5x depending on the speaker, so I understand completely :)
guide for only mena servers lol
I understand the challenge of grinding all 4 rooms with Crypt's popularity. As mentioned in the video, however, the 4-room rotation is optional, and not what defines the Elite Rotation for grinding. The 'Elite Rotation' principles leverage advantages by adhering strictly to mechanics.
You can apply this logic to the 2, 3, or 4 room variants. Hopefully this clarifies things, because this guide is for everyone grinding Crypt, not those strictly trying to grind 4 rooms.
nerd