Hosted by Richie Benaud, the bowlers included Imran Khan, Sarfraz Nawaz, Dennis Lillee, Michael Holding, Jeff Thompson, Andy Roberts, Richard Hadlee, Colin Croft and more...
Bear in mind that Sunny never faced Thomson at his fastest either - the 1977-78 season was AFTER the shoulder injury which robbed him of several yards.
I was 9 years old when this was televised and I was watching keenly when the signal dropped out completely. I never knew the results until today. I did always suspect Thommo as the fastest.
Wow yeah that would of sucked. I was 9 as well. That was fantastic era of cricket.I don’t even remember this. Stumbled across it. Pretty cool tho. Yes Thomo recons he’s even bowled 100 miles an hr/160km a few times. I believe him. He was very fast.
@@russe19642 I think it was Thommo who bowled a bouncer that went for six wides at the WACA. It hit the deck in front of the batsman and hit the sightscreen behind him.
@@mattcorcoran7082 Maybe, but it never affected his bowling. I read a piece about another former player, Bill Edrich who regularly got pissed before a test match and often turned up at the ground still in his dinner jacket from the previous night's party.
I partially agree with you... legends are still part of the game...after 10 - 15 years, people will remember today's teams and say legends were part of the game 😃
An endless debate, of course, but my two cents’ worth. Every cricketing nation has produced express bowlers, and we’ll never know who bowled the fastest delivery ever. What, in my opinion, made Jeff Thomson unique was that he bowled at express pace all day. Quite possibly Frank Tyson, Harold Larwood, Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Shoab Akhtar, Alan Donald, Michael Holding, Patrick Patterson, Curtly Ambrose et al. bowled a few deliveries or an over faster than Thomson ever did. The thing about Thomson was that he bowled at express pace all day. Clive Lloyd said that he was just as quick in the last over before stumps as he was in the first over of the morning session. That’s what made him special. There have been many more intelligent fast bowlers, but none as consistently fast over days of play.
It feels wrong to hear somebody criticising the likes of Imran Khan, but then you remember it’s Richie Benaud and he can say whatever he likes about cricket 😂
What an era it was! All the bowlers featured in this short documentary are the fast bowling legends. Also, West Indies became known for its fast speedy quartet, but few people know that Clive Lloyd thought of recruiting intimidating fast bowlers after the fast bowling duo Dennis Lillee - Jeff Thomson intimidated West Indian batsmen during West Indies' tour of Australia in 1975-76, and the rest is history.
And he brought them in after west indies lost to India and went 1 nil down to them after a test in port of Spain in Trinidad and Tobago. The pace quartet turned the series around, windies won that series 2 to 1. India and west indies played two fascinating series in the 1970's. The first one was the 1971 series, which India won 1 nil. Gavaskar scored a lot of runs in this series. What made both series so fascinating was the contrast between the pace bowling lineup of the windies and the Indian spinners. India was the only test playing nation with a spin dominated attack.
My favourite quote from Clive Lloyd (and didn't we respect big Clive )...."If you face Jeff Thompson, with no helmet, and you were not scared....you are a liar"
Since the horizontal component of velocity is being measured it's best to bowl full (yorker length) and straight to record the highest speed. Most of the bowlers are wasting their efforts by bowling bouncers especially Andy Roberts.
Yeah it's injury risk, no administration is going to let their nation's fastest bowler risk a potentially permanent injury by going all out just for bragging rights. It would be interesting if they could gather data during matches to have an annual fastest bowler or fastest of the world cup award. They can put a camera directly above the bowler with spider cam these days I would think that would let you get extremely accurate measurement without needing the bowlers to bowl just for the sake of being measured.
Super fast bowlers - legends all - but Andy Roberts on the green at full tilt was something else. A bowler with a fast bouncer and a slow bouncer - whew - the Late Mr. Brian Close had talked about it.
I was negative 11 when this was done, but I just appreciate a good spectacle. It's actually pretty impressive how they got the high speed this clean more than 40 years ago. Same goes for time the time of Bradman. A lot of foresight from the camera operators and technicians who made it happen. Although we probably won't know them by name, we can still appreciate their work nearly a century on. P.S. Jeff Thompson mentioned how he cleaned up by bowling full tosses when everyone else was bowling bouncers (in order to be faster). The guy wasn't just a talented athlete but also quite wiley! ruclips.net/video/khpB7ZarKgc/видео.html Cheers!
Bowlers have different days when they are in a riddim and bowled fast. It is hard to put 5 or 6 fast Bowlers to run up and bowl their fastest. Most times a bowler needs some motivation.
Yep exactly, pretty much all these bowlers have clocked 155+ and that was in an actual game against a batsman. You can’t expect usain bolt to even go sub 10 during practice or friendly competition cause there’s no motivation or drive in practice unlike a competition
Those saying the ball was recorded at the batsman's end are wrong. Those saying the ball was recorded out of the hand are also wrong. Modern measurments track the speed of the ball the instant it leaves the hand, the measurment observed here is the distance of the grid (perhaps a couple of feet) over which time the ball will slow down slightly. The numbers these bowlers would be bowling with modern measurments would be marginally faster. Another note is that this competition was held on a 40 degree day.
@@ude3333 I didn't say "two feet", the measurement of the ball speed is measured over the distance between the release point and the edge of the frame, that appears to be around 2-3 feet.
Imran Khan s bowling action was perfect with high jump after him holding, later on Imran Khan became fast in 80s era before injury, he bowled 140 to 147 , and started new art reverse swing introduce to the world,
Jeff Thompson was in an another league altogether. He could have killed batsmen instantly with those speeds especially as they didn't have helmets in those days. That's downright lethal ...
Options to explain speeds: 1. They measured hand-speed at top of action rather than ball after it left hand (there was a slo-mo which stopped at top of action) - wrist adds 5-10kmh itself. 2. They are using the grid and analogue clock to calculate distance/time; given 90mph=40metres/second, and these guys will be through their action in a second, a tiny error in the clock, grid interpretation or if the ball is crossing grid at an angle will change the speed. You also have the parallax of the camera which could affect the speed positively or negatively. I agree with many others these speeds seem low; visually they look quicker. There is a POV video of And Gilchrist facing Brett Lee at 88mph+ and these guys look at least as sharp from the batting end camera
I think the best test would be high speed camera judging hand release to contact on the ground - this older style I’d rate as a better test than nowadays -all these speed gun machines give wild results now and then - I don’t trust they pick up the ball out of the hand.
hello. i have actually emailed the vice president of photosonics on exactly how the speed is being calculated here. he said the film is run through a computer,the computer calibrates the clock in the film by how many frames it takes to spin one rev.... the camera is accurate to within 0.005% using special servo drives. afte the film is developed and run through the computer the ball is timed from release until it leaves the frame.
Under rated great Imran khan by saying he is fast medium and sometimes fast..and Imran khan superseded to most of them like Andy Roberts and Dennis Lillie by speed and accuracy just behind Michael Holding and Jeff Thompson. Anyway they were all great legends, belongs to golden era of cricket. It was like a real clash of the titans.
@@2Tubist Yes, safraz did make all batsman wet their underwear - with laughter:) He was fast medium at best and had a test bowling average of just under 33 and a strike rate of just under 80! Ooooh... scary. His bowling stats against AUS? 15 matches, 52 wickets at 35.15 with a strike rate of 86.9. Calm down.
A fired up Sylvester Clarke would have been up there no question! Ask Alan Kourie? Here's a clip from Wiki.. "Alan Kourie recalls that Clarke, during the unofficial West Indies 1983 rebel tour, recorded speeds between 98 mph and 101 mph by two South African police officers testing out a new automobile speed radar gun who were present at Johannesburg ground."
We hear bs stories like those coppers all the time....who is to say that the alleged radar gun had been calibrated correctly to a standard and / or was in calibration. In any case the West Indies so called rebels played in the World Series years 1977 to 1979.
I'm not impressed at all by these speeds. If you listen to old players and commentators you would expect a minimum of 155kph from all these bowlers. The old addage of the truth being exaggerated comes to mind.
Im very surprised with these speeds. If these guys were so slow, how much slower did the other pace bowlers bowl back in the days?? And how has it not been noted by ex players/commentators that bowlers these days are way faster than those back in the days??
Yes, these guys going on and on saying it was 175, 150 blah blah . See this full video ruclips.net/video/0SCu4ju9POg/видео.html 6:10 onwards. they clearly say it is measured at the time of release. 147kph is kinda average
They had high speed camera at the bowling end and one at the batting end and measured the time from end to end then got the average speed. That’s why you can see the timer and the checkerboard from side on. The camera pointing at the bowler is doing what cameras do not measuring speed. Today it’s measured by a radar gun which assume picks up the ball at peak speed but unsure what point that is.
@@MHRT-SS The use of radar guns in cricket started about a full season after they were first used in MLB (1978?). The measurement is generally taken at a point soon after release. These older tests were first performed in Perth WA by UWA Mechanical Engineering dept. You have to remember that the older measurement is done from the side and between two points (level with the bowling and batting creases). The overall velocity therefore includes the velocity lost when contact is made with the pitch. Today's telecasts sometimes indicate the speed measured on release and also the speed on arrival at the batter.
The funniest thing is how they recount everyone's average speed and highest speed at the end - except for Sarfraz. What on earth was he doing there? Medium pacer.
No way those speed recordings are correct! I've seen james Anderson bowl and he gets up to around 138 kph. I've seen Andy Roberts bowl and he was much faster than Anderson Roberts and Holding must easy have got 90mph+ i
@@pubudusenanayake6724 Exactly! The stupidity of some people amaze me. They used basic physics here, distance covered in a particular time, for the calculation and it is extremely accurate.
@@bonjourr100 I've seen Roberts, Thompson, Holding Akram, and on his day Roberts was as fast as any of them. He was more of a subtle bowler who mixed it up
I am surprised so many of these fast bowlers didn't realize that bowling shortish takes a yard or two off the measured pace, because the pace is measured along the pitch alone, and not in the perpendicular direction. Only Jeff Thomson seems to have understood this, bowling full tosses.
@@Jassim666 what do you mean my can't be the fastest in one then not faster in the other the fastest bowl ever bowled was by shoaib akhtar 100.3 mph making him the fastest bowler in history
@@BRG1807 If you were a regular watcher of cricket, you would know that Brett Lee consistently kept bowling long spells at 155+. Shoaib used to bowl at 150+ for about 5 overs after which his pace always dropped to 145-147 kmph and he used to start missing his lengths. Yes Shoaib bowled one ball at 160.1 but that was it. Other than that, Brett Lee was always faster than him. Shoaib's heavy frame used to tire him out fast and hamper his mobility, while Brett Lee used to be ultra-fit and have unbelievable levels of endurance. As much as people would hate to admit it, Brett Lee was the scarier deal because he brought the whole package with him like seam, swing, accuracy and extreme pace. Shoaib used to swing for 4 overs with atleast 4 wides, and after that he would lose all movement and with no options left, he would have to resort to bouncers. After three more overs, he would lose all steam and batsmen would milk him off.
Sorry but bowler in 70's &80's are very fast and accurate on the other hand shoaib wast very fast but you can't compare shoaib with this legend and search malcom marshal dennis lielli jeff thompson andy roberts joel garnal micheal holding
I have NO IDEA why the issue of fastest bowler was ever an issue! FFS - just count the number of frames from release of ball til when it reaches the popping crease!!! Fewest frames = fastest bowler!!! It couldn't be easier if you have the technological means to count frames (which is surely pretty low-tech). Maybe people like to measure how fast it comes out of the hand but I think that's a side issue: what counted, in terms of giving the batsman the least amount of reaction time or time to adjust, was time from release to being adjacent to your bat or body.......
in those days they used to measure speed of the ball from the time it left a bowlers hand until the it reached the batsman.it lost as much as 10% of the original speed.it's different now, speed is measured in the first 4-5 feet it has travelled after leaving the bowler's hand. So technically thomson bowled at 162.69.
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And Thommo was half pissed and had to borrow some shoes and whites for the competition. He was having a few beers with Kerry Packers and after six beers, Kerry asked Thommo why he wasn't at the fastest bowler competition. The rest is history.
This is great. Unfortunately, we'll never know for sure who THE fastest bowler ever was, to me it seems there's a certain level that can occasionally be reached, but we'll never know for sure. Geoff Boycott said that Holding was the fastest he'd faced, and that he felt he had more in him if he wanted it (scary thought). He didn't face Thomson in the mid-1970s though. Benaud swore the fastest bowling he ever saw was Frank Tyson in Australia in 1954/55. Alan McGilvray was convinced Eddie Gilbert was the fastest he'd ever seen (and faced). Fascinating to wonder how quick they all would be captured with modern equipment.
What if such competitions are held now and the same equipment for testing the speed of the current bowlers. Some confusion or myth can be cleared. Also I would like to add another point the 15 degree elbow flexion was not implemented back then . Which seems like they may not be so fast & furious but were genuine pacers with clean undisputed action. Because the flexion gives a clear advantage in terms of bounce swing and pace. Lee ,Tait and akthar cleary have some flexion in their actions. Where as Starc Johnson Bond Milne fidel Edwards and some bowlers who clocked over 150 have very less or sometimes negligible amount of flexion.
Very entertaining, but getting back to reality this is nothing more than a net session shown in prime time to advertise pizza, fried chicken and coca-cola, no surprise it was never tried again. If we are going to gauge athletes on their performances in the nets or at the gym then nobody is ever going to measure up to actual competition. Hanging a 'worlds fastest bowler competition' label on it doesn't make it so. Having been a fast bowler that could break stumps back in my younger days I can tell you that the nets are a training tool to develop strength and stamina and refine technique but nobody ever gets more than 90 percent of maximum performance, you need to a batsman at the other end and something to play for to achieve that extra 10 percent motivation. A fast bowler in a Test match or any serious competition needs to bowl for about 3 hours max over 5-6 days and be at 100 percent every ball, even then you only get top pace perhaps 2 balls per over over a 4-5 over spell, even the fittest athletes cannot do better. These guys had been invited to a competition which was written into their contract to perform in a contest they obviously could not win, Thomson had played no form of organised cricket for 8 months but everybody in the game knew that nothing they could do would ever come close to this guy. Yes there was a nice cash prize for the 'winner' but for everybody else there was literally nothing but the chance of getting injured from over extending and sitting out the rest of the season on the injury bench. Enjoy it but don't use it as any realistic measure of reality.
I can't help thinking that if they had a batsman at the other end, it could have made them all bowl just a little bit faster! If each bowler had been allowed to choose their most hated batsman to bowl to (or at!), then it would have made things more interesting. I also think that bowling a full over, rather than individual deliveries would have helped the bowlers with rhythmn and accuracy.
Speed seems too low. Either these bowlers can be hyped up or speed measurement done in this video vs current speed measurement technique is definately different. Even MS Dhoni bowled 134 kmph which is being hard for Dennis lillee. 20 time slower is the culprit i think it should be more slower also point of relase also matters.
These bowlers would be smacked easily by any modern great batsman or power-hitter . Akhtar , Brett Lee, McGrath, Steyn>>>> these slow dinosaur bowlers 😆😆
My Respect for Shoaib Akhtar just went up... Like no disrespect to these legends.... But how scary Akhtar must have been with 161.3 Km/h being his highest he used to bowl consistently at over 150+. What a beast of bowler he was
Lee has far more 150 plus deliveries recorded than soaib…even he reached 160 plus 4 times which is more than soaib….yes soaib was more furious because he wanted to kill batsmen where on the other hand lee was focused on the good lengths and the Yorkers only.
Methods used to measure speed are different. Shoaib's speed was measured only at the time of release. But in this video they measure speed based on time taken by ball to reach other end. And we all know that speed drops considerably once you hit the deck
Thomson bowled in this event after his shoulder injury. He was waaaaaay quicker prior to the shoulder injury after a collision on field with Alan Turner.
Why here we continuously saying like that era was golden According to fast, New generation bowlers are much better fast deliveries than those Pls anybody clarify me...??
Fail to see why so many are finding fault with the outcome. Thommo was in a bar when he got the news about the 'shoot-out'. He hadn't played in 6 months as he has said on many occasions in interviews, Channel 7(?) knew this but encouraged him anyway. The others were all match fit, playing or at least training for a 'season' coming up. They all had the same rules and conditions. They knew the rules... no real warm-ups as if playing in a match and having had several overs to get rhythm. The comments from batsmen and commentators of the time talking about Thommo, pretty much backed up the truth he was the fastest. Lloyd, Richards, Bumble ( David LLoyd) Lawrence Rowe, Dujon, Lillee, Pascoe, Grieg and here's a direct comment from England Captain Mike Brierley said, “Broken marriages, conflicts of loyalty, the problems of everyday life fall away as one faces up to Thomson.” The accuracy prize must been sweet for him as the detractors have always said he was wild and no control. Truth is he always bowled to get the ball down to the batsmen/stumps as fast as he could so that was his style...he pretty much bowled using sheer pace, (he has said that too on many occasion, think sometimes he does play up to the image some people have of him)... whereas the others were trying to beat him ( they all knew who was the fastest) and by just bowling as fast as they could.. accuracy went. I find it funny that the relatively unfit 'Bankstown beach-bum's' average speed was still faster than any of their fastest balls !!
I believe Kerry packer asked thommo why he wasn't down there trying out . Thommo had problems with contracts with cricket Australia or something. Mr packer in true packer style told thommo i own this you get your ass down there and you'd better win, I think thommo said Mr packer had had a substantial side bet for thommo to win .packer made sure thommo was included..
@@aussiesmoko Thomo is the Chopper Reed of the cricket world. Some of what he says may be accurate but you don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn!
In his own words, "I'd been sittin' on me arse on me back verandah all summer, drinkin' beer". Bear in mind this was also a couple of years after the collision with Alan Turner which wrecked hos shoulder and robbed him of several yards. He was still quick after that but no longer terrifying.
Best? Lillee also took 67 wickets in World Series cricket (probably higher standard than test cricket, and he was the top wicket-taker), which would put him on 422 when added to his “official” 355 test wickets.
Hate me all u want. Curse me all u want. BUT I cam here tk say that, these bowlers played during a time when there were no helmets, arm guards etc. If these bowlers played today, they d get smacked the hell out of the ground left right and center. See thats the thing. Today's batsmen dont have to deal with the fear of injury due to their protective gear hence they d ve whooped their asses. Back then they just bulied batsmen who had no protective gear. As soon as the helmet came, batsmen started smacking the shit out of these bullies. The 4 feared west indian bowlers would get their ass handed to them by Rohit, Kohli, Warner,l etc. Hell, Tendulkar would ve pissed all over them😂
Shame Thommo wasn't recorded before his injury in 1976/77. Yes 1974/75 he was at his peak. Can you imagine him with raw pace before the broken collarbone. I just shuffle up and go whammo !! Might have been the quote.
I think Thommo was recorded in 1975 at 99.8 mph. The record lasted for 30 years. But I still think to this day that he bowled faster. True Aussie larrikin.
Remember,speed in those days were calculated when the ball reached the batsmen it means that speed of the ball when it reached the batsmen was considered actual speed,but when shoib and bretlee started to bowl from then onwards bowls sperd started to be measured when it left the bowlers hand.So as per todays standards all of them were bowling above 150 km/h regularly and jeff thompsons 147 was above 160.
I don't think that was the way they measured in this competition...notice the square grid in background...they calculate speed by simple distance travelled divided by time taken...
Hum andhe hain kya jab shoaib aur brett lee bowl chorte the dekh k pata lag jata tha 150 k speed daal rahen hain same with waqar younis also agar speedo meter naa bhi available ho toh tab bhi naked eye se pata lag jata tha
Methods used to measure speed are different. Shoaib's speed was measured only at the time of release. But in this video they measure speed based on time taken by ball to reach other end. And we all know that speed drops considerably once you hit the deck
Yes but Michael Holding was tested using very similar equipment and methods to current ones in 1980 by an Aussie Uni and he topped out at around 138km. I watched a lot of Garth Le Roux and Croft in the 80s and these speeds look bang on the mark.
yep, that was the classic era huh, late 70s early 80s, so many great players and characters in the game and one day-ers white ball coloured clothing were new and exciting etc.
1979 - One player springs to mind immediately Jeff Thomson but don’t forget Harold Larwood in the 30’s and Frank Tyson in the 50’s for we will never know how fast they bowled.
So Imran Khan's fastest and average are about the same. Though at the start he was being called Medium to fast and Lilliee as furious fast, but he is no where in the competition at all.
It was always known that Thommo was the fastest of his era. He was a top Javelin thrower that is why he had such a slingee action. In my 40 years of watching top level cricket only Shoaib A and Brett Lee have clocked as fast. Special mention to Waqar who was super quick for a smaller guy.
Waqar Younis was officially timed at 153kph after his injuries. I heard that he was recorded around 157kph before he got injured, but it was not officially verified so it remains speculation. Regardless Waqar was a true freak in his own regard. Can you name any other bowler who could reverse swing the ball like he did at 150+ with lethal accuracy on the stumps, like he did during the 1990s?
@creativity2598 Are you for reel ? There were fragments of Mike Gatting's nasel bone tissue in-bedded in the ball after Marshall hit him in the face at Sabina Park !! Marshall also took his 376 Test wickets at 20.94. He was also fit and could bowl all day unlike Shoab
IMRAN KHAN was my favourite of all times, not only was he a fast bowler, a great all rounder but the best Captain out of all these great Cricketers , they were all legends .
Mesurements were carried out at 90Deg. to the two creases near to the boundary. Testing was done in Perth WA as part of studies performed by UWA. There were no devices that measured linearly in 1979.
@@flamingfrancis for this competition, or for games? Surely in this one the grid parallel to the crease, plus the frame rate is what calculates the speed? Ie distance over time?
Richard Hadley is running a successful business in South India with my Malyali friend's friend. People always encircle him for autographs and stuff here. He is so fond of South India I believe.
Lillee and Thompson were my idols and quite young I could imitate their actions quite well. My dad took super 8. I adapted the Lillee style to use because it was more consistent for me and I could hit the seam, but I felt the "Tommo" was faster. As a physio I now know that's because you create a lot more leverage across the left knee, which more easily obtains terminal extension and has less forward flexion force to overcome - faster for longer. When I got to high school and learned javelin I realised that that was Thompson's technique. I still dont understand why conventional and Thompson's javelin stye aren't both taught to youngsters, so they may choose what works for them. Even if only 10% can master javelin style, they will have a lot of success.
To my untrained eye, Thomson's style looks like a recipe for shoulder and other injuries? And perhaps that's why youngsters are encouraged to stay away from that technique?
Who gives a shit ! The top wicket takers are all spinners at test level , then is a swing bowler from England who is medium pace . The more important question is... is there a better opening bowling attack than Ambrose and Glenn Mcgrath 🤔
if we want to compare these bowlers with the modern bowlers....then .only way is to use same old techniques to measure pace of current bowler just to examine(not for the game)alongside with the modern techniques...,and from that data we can take a reference b/w paces measured....and surely we will get the answer....although i think people generally used to boast a lot of vintage bowling....if we compare pace from the video itself we would see that imran Khan who is a not sheer fast bowler like Thompson and Lillie...he is hitting 135+,,,frommy point of view keeping all in mind....fastest bowler was shoaib akhtar...and Thompson but Lillie,brett lee,holding,starc,johnson,shane bond,tait,andy Roberts,garner r too close and in a same league
Another factor is that different makes of speed guns were used to measure Akhtar and Lee. When the differences in speed are fractional, wouldn't matters such as instrument calibration be needed to produce definitive results? Also, Lillee was recovering from flu when this test was done - 'The art of fast bowling', by Dennis Lillee
A much better way of testing real speed would have been giving them bowl 1 complete over of 6 balls in one go. It gives them the rythm needed to bowl faster.
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The fact that Sunny Gavaskar says Thomson was noticeably faster than Michael Holding or anyone else says a lot for me.
That goes for me too. Nobody was quicker than Thommo during the 70s.
Bear in mind that Sunny never faced Thomson at his fastest either - the 1977-78 season was AFTER the shoulder injury which robbed him of several yards.
@@rickydumas9994 What exactly is a yard when referring to pace? Is it 2mph, 4mph or what?
I was 9 years old when this was televised and I was watching keenly when the signal dropped out completely. I never knew the results until today. I did always suspect Thommo as the fastest.
Wow yeah that would of sucked. I was 9 as well. That was fantastic era of cricket.I don’t even remember this. Stumbled across it. Pretty cool tho. Yes Thomo recons he’s even bowled 100 miles an hr/160km a few times. I believe him. He was very fast.
I was probably 15, world series cricket was at its peak and remember watching this and remembered he was the most accurate as well
@@russe19642 I think it was Thommo who bowled a bouncer that went for six wides at the WACA. It hit the deck in front of the batsman and hit the sightscreen behind him.
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43 years later you got the answer
Thommo was drunk when they filmed this. He wasn’t going to compete but Kerry Packer made him go out there. He wasn’t wearing his own gear.
From what I have heard he tended to get smashed the eve before bowling as the discomfort of a hangover made him bowl his quickest.
@@AlunThomas-mp5qo or he was an alcoholic
@@mattcorcoran7082 Maybe, but it never affected his bowling. I read a piece about another former player, Bill Edrich who regularly got pissed before a test match and often turned up at the ground still in his dinner jacket from the previous night's party.
It was a golden era in the world of cricket -- non commercial, pure gamesmanship and legends were part of the game.
I partially agree with you... legends are still part of the game...after 10 - 15 years, people will remember today's teams and say legends were part of the game 😃
What are you saying without commercial cricket was never played there were sponsor
Always commercial.
Kerry Packer "Non Commercial? Hold my beer mate"
Yes, lots of bookies. Good that cricket was non commercial
An endless debate, of course, but my two cents’ worth. Every cricketing nation has produced express bowlers, and we’ll never know who bowled the fastest delivery ever. What, in my opinion, made Jeff Thomson unique was that he bowled at express pace all day. Quite possibly Frank Tyson, Harold Larwood, Kapil Dev, Richard Hadlee, Shoab Akhtar, Alan Donald, Michael Holding, Patrick Patterson, Curtly Ambrose et al. bowled a few deliveries or an over faster than Thomson ever did. The thing about Thomson was that he bowled at express pace all day. Clive Lloyd said that he was just as quick in the last over before stumps as he was in the first over of the morning session. That’s what made him special. There have been many more intelligent fast bowlers, but none as consistently fast over days of play.
Also waqour younis..
Kapil dev was only a medium pace bowler and not even fast medium let alone real fast!
Kapil Dev was at best medium fast.
Thommo was measured at 160, there's no way some of these names, maybe all, ever reached that pace.
Makes sense , because it appeared Thomo's action gave him the pace. Bumra is one of the current bowlers who falls into such a category.
It feels wrong to hear somebody criticising the likes of Imran Khan, but then you remember it’s Richie Benaud and he can say whatever he likes about cricket 😂
What an era it was! All the bowlers featured in this short documentary are the fast bowling legends. Also, West Indies became known for its fast speedy quartet, but few people know that Clive Lloyd thought of recruiting intimidating fast bowlers after the fast bowling duo Dennis Lillee - Jeff Thomson intimidated West Indian batsmen during West Indies' tour of Australia in 1975-76, and the rest is history.
And he brought them in after west indies lost to India and went 1 nil down to them after a test in port of Spain in Trinidad and Tobago. The pace quartet turned the series around, windies won that series 2 to 1. India and west indies played two fascinating series in the 1970's. The first one was the 1971 series, which India won 1 nil. Gavaskar scored a lot of runs in this series. What made both series so fascinating was the contrast between the pace bowling lineup of the windies and the Indian spinners. India was the only test playing nation with a spin dominated attack.
@@vijayiyer8518More specifically, they had a number of spinners in their lineup and failed to defend 405 runs or something against India
No my friend it's the most well known story in cricket
Facing such express pace without helmets ...those Batmen had some real big Balls !!
200% Agree n Brave Hearts Too
I've faced a bowler who played for Middlesex colts.He was over 80mph
That felt very quick!😫😫
No they were crazy!!!!
Balls had protection:)
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My favourite quote from Clive Lloyd (and didn't we respect big Clive )...."If you face Jeff Thompson, with no helmet, and you were not scared....you are a liar"
Lloyd never said that. What he did say was that Thompson's cousin , Jeff Thomson was the quickest he had ever faced.
Fastest ball results 11:11
Since the horizontal component of velocity is being measured it's best to bowl full (yorker length) and straight to record the highest speed. Most of the bowlers are wasting their efforts by bowling bouncers especially Andy Roberts.
They said in some other video that they measured from the bowling end while the release hence the proper camera set up showing their release
Ya ground eats lot of pace.
@@anonymous4531 incorrect,its being measured out of the hand.
Thomson wasn’t even playing at the time - he borrowed someone else’s boots and clothes and still won !
Remember watching this as a kid, brings back memories of a golden era of cricket.
English losing 23 world cu
Why aren't they conducting world's fastest bowler competition nowadays?
I suppose fear of illegal actions such as the pace race involving Lee, Ahktar, et al. Just a guess though.
Cricket is no more a game of bowlers let alone fast bowlers
Probably injuries, lots of effort that goes into bowling express,
Injury risk means most players on central contracts aren’t allowed to
Yeah it's injury risk, no administration is going to let their nation's fastest bowler risk a potentially permanent injury by going all out just for bragging rights. It would be interesting if they could gather data during matches to have an annual fastest bowler or fastest of the world cup award. They can put a camera directly above the bowler with spider cam these days I would think that would let you get extremely accurate measurement without needing the bowlers to bowl just for the sake of being measured.
Super fast bowlers - legends all - but Andy Roberts on the green at full tilt was something else. A bowler with a fast bouncer and a slow bouncer - whew - the Late Mr. Brian Close had talked about it.
i still maintain he was the greatest WI bowler of them all
@Tech SUPPORT I'm not dissing Marshall at all. He was definitely one of the best. I guess it's too hard to really seperate them when they're that good
Which brand of sundial did they use to calculate Sarfraz's velocity?
I was negative 11 when this was done, but I just appreciate a good spectacle. It's actually pretty impressive how they got the high speed this clean more than 40 years ago. Same goes for time the time of Bradman. A lot of foresight from the camera operators and technicians who made it happen. Although we probably won't know them by name, we can still appreciate their work nearly a century on.
P.S. Jeff Thompson mentioned how he cleaned up by bowling full tosses when everyone else was bowling bouncers (in order to be faster). The guy wasn't just a talented athlete but also quite wiley!
ruclips.net/video/khpB7ZarKgc/видео.html
Cheers!
Bowlers have different days when they are in a riddim and bowled fast. It is hard to put 5 or 6 fast Bowlers to run up and bowl their fastest. Most times a bowler needs some motivation.
Exactly.. having a batsman at the other end to knock his head off gives the motivation for me to bowl faster
Yep exactly, pretty much all these bowlers have clocked 155+ and that was in an actual game against a batsman. You can’t expect usain bolt to even go sub 10 during practice or friendly competition cause there’s no motivation or drive in practice unlike a competition
$10,000 is enough motivation 😂
riddim loool
Playing any sport is motivation enough regardless of level.
RB referred to Holding as a former champion athlete, but Holding himself said that they mixed him up with another guy and he wasn't!
I remember watching this one when I was a kid.Len Pascoe was one of my favourites along with Jeff Thompson,the world's fastest.Fond memories.
I remember watching this as an old man
Now I am a young one
@@drnaveedyazdani1619 Ah! Reincarnation, good for you! 🙂
Those saying the ball was recorded at the batsman's end are wrong. Those saying the ball was recorded out of the hand are also wrong. Modern measurments track the speed of the ball the instant it leaves the hand, the measurment observed here is the distance of the grid (perhaps a couple of feet) over which time the ball will slow down slightly. The numbers these bowlers would be bowling with modern measurments would be marginally faster.
Another note is that this competition was held on a 40 degree day.
Yeah, I suspect add 15kmh to match modern measurements
Where did you get the "two feet" part from?
@@ude3333 I didn't say "two feet", the measurement of the ball speed is measured over the distance between the release point and the edge of the frame, that appears to be around 2-3 feet.
@@ethybubs I dont think thats the case. Because the video doesn't explain it properly. so thats only an assumption.
@@ude3333 It's just obviously how they're measuring it. That's the point of the grid and the clock.
Imagine how India's Sunil Gavaskar stood up to them and scored tons of runs! Most courageous indeed.
and that too without wearing a helmet most of the times
No doubt but all deliveries wont be that quick.
Yeah but he played mainly on dead, dusty Indian pitches that nullified the fast bowlers.
@@theunquietdead8138 check his runs in West Indies
No bowler from India?
Imran Khan s bowling action was perfect with high jump after him holding, later on Imran Khan became fast in 80s era before injury, he bowled 140 to 147 , and started new art reverse swing introduce to the world,
Jeff Thompson was in an another league altogether. He could have killed batsmen instantly with those speeds especially as they didn't have helmets in those days. That's downright lethal ...
The days when mc Donald’s would give away a World Series cricket poster with every Big Mac
Options to explain speeds:
1. They measured hand-speed at top of action rather than ball after it left hand (there was a slo-mo which stopped at top of action) - wrist adds 5-10kmh itself.
2. They are using the grid and analogue clock to calculate distance/time; given 90mph=40metres/second, and these guys will be through their action in a second, a tiny error in the clock, grid interpretation or if the ball is crossing grid at an angle will change the speed. You also have the parallax of the camera which could affect the speed positively or negatively.
I agree with many others these speeds seem low; visually they look quicker. There is a POV video of And Gilchrist facing Brett Lee at 88mph+ and these guys look at least as sharp from the batting end camera
I think the best test would be high speed camera judging hand release to contact on the ground - this older style I’d rate as a better test than nowadays -all these speed gun machines give wild results now and then - I don’t trust they pick up the ball out of the hand.
hello. i have actually emailed the vice president of photosonics on exactly how the speed is being calculated here. he said the film is run through a computer,the computer calibrates the clock in the film by how many frames it takes to spin one rev.... the camera is accurate to within 0.005% using special servo drives. afte the film is developed and run through the computer the ball is timed from release until it leaves the frame.
Richie - that maaaarvelous flowing action
Under rated great Imran khan by saying he is fast medium and sometimes fast..and Imran khan superseded to most of them like Andy Roberts and Dennis Lillie by speed and accuracy just behind Michael Holding and Jeff Thompson.
Anyway they were all great legends, belongs to golden era of cricket.
It was like a real clash of the titans.
Love the Safraz run up 10:18 , always ran like his underwear was a fraction too tight
Yeah, with that same style he made Aussies wet their underwear back in 70s, and that was before lunch
@@2Tubist
Yes, safraz did make all batsman wet their underwear - with laughter:) He was fast medium at best and had a test bowling average of just under 33 and a strike rate of just under 80! Ooooh... scary.
His bowling stats against AUS? 15 matches, 52 wickets at 35.15 with a strike rate of 86.9.
Calm down.
I hate to compare players of different eras but I don't think Thompson was as fast as Tait, Shoaib or Brett Lee.
A fired up Sylvester Clarke would have been up there no question! Ask Alan Kourie? Here's a clip from Wiki.. "Alan Kourie recalls that Clarke, during the unofficial West Indies 1983 rebel tour, recorded speeds between 98 mph and 101 mph by two South African police officers testing out a new automobile speed radar gun who were present at Johannesburg ground."
We hear bs stories like those coppers all the time....who is to say that the alleged radar gun had been calibrated correctly to a standard and / or was in calibration. In any case the West Indies so called rebels played in the World Series years 1977 to 1979.
I'm not impressed at all by these speeds. If you listen to old players and commentators you would expect a minimum of 155kph from all these bowlers. The old addage of the truth being exaggerated comes to mind.
Im very surprised with these speeds. If these guys were so slow, how much slower did the other pace bowlers bowl back in the days?? And how has it not been noted by ex players/commentators that bowlers these days are way faster than those back in the days??
With camera setup clearly on bowling end and measuring release speed i still see comments saying speed was measured at batsmen end. 👏.
Yes, these guys going on and on saying it was 175, 150 blah blah
. See this full video ruclips.net/video/0SCu4ju9POg/видео.html 6:10 onwards. they clearly say it is measured at the time of release. 147kph is kinda average
Yeah some people are just dumb
They had high speed camera at the bowling end and one at the batting end and measured the time from end to end then got the average speed. That’s why you can see the timer and the checkerboard from side on. The camera pointing at the bowler is doing what cameras do not measuring speed.
Today it’s measured by a radar gun which assume picks up the ball at peak speed but unsure what point that is.
Exactly
@@MHRT-SS The use of radar guns in cricket started about a full season after they were first used in MLB (1978?). The measurement is generally taken at a point soon after release. These older tests were first performed in Perth WA by UWA Mechanical Engineering dept.
You have to remember that the older measurement is done from the side and between two points (level with the bowling and batting creases). The overall velocity therefore includes the velocity lost when contact is made with the pitch. Today's telecasts sometimes indicate the speed measured on release and also the speed on arrival at the batter.
The funniest thing is how they recount everyone's average speed and highest speed at the end - except for Sarfraz. What on earth was he doing there? Medium pacer.
No way those speed recordings are correct! I've seen james Anderson bowl and he gets up to around 138 kph.
I've seen Andy Roberts bowl and he was much faster than Anderson
Roberts and Holding must easy have got 90mph+
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They used a totally different technology back in those days and the bowlers are not bowling in match conditions.
Oh yeah, your eyes are much better at gauging speed than actual measurements ...
@@pubudusenanayake6724 Exactly! The stupidity of some people amaze me. They used basic physics here, distance covered in a particular time, for the calculation and it is extremely accurate.
@@bonjourr100 I've seen Roberts, Thompson, Holding Akram, and on his day Roberts was as fast as any of them. He was more of a subtle bowler who mixed it up
@@bonjourr100 I can only say from what I've seen and Holding, Thommo, Roberts were as fast as anyone I've seen, certainly in recent years
I am surprised so many of these fast bowlers didn't realize that bowling shortish takes a yard or two off the measured pace, because the pace is measured along the pitch alone, and not in the perpendicular direction. Only Jeff Thomson seems to have understood this, bowling full tosses.
they look slow compared to bret lee and shohaib akhtar or maybe they look slow in video.
Let's summarise this. Fastest bowler EVER:
************SHOAIB AKHTAR*********** Of Pakistan
Brett Lee says hello mate.
In odi ita shoib
In test its brett lee
@@orion7326 yeah bret lees the 2nd fastest
@@Jassim666 what do you mean my can't be the fastest in one then not faster in the other the fastest bowl ever bowled was by shoaib akhtar 100.3 mph making him the fastest bowler in history
@@BRG1807 If you were a regular watcher of cricket, you would know that Brett Lee consistently kept bowling long spells at 155+. Shoaib used to bowl at 150+ for about 5 overs after which his pace always dropped to 145-147 kmph and he used to start missing his lengths.
Yes Shoaib bowled one ball at 160.1 but that was it. Other than that, Brett Lee was always faster than him. Shoaib's heavy frame used to tire him out fast and hamper his mobility, while Brett Lee used to be ultra-fit and have unbelievable levels of endurance.
As much as people would hate to admit it, Brett Lee was the scarier deal because he brought the whole package with him like seam, swing, accuracy and extreme pace. Shoaib used to swing for 4 overs with atleast 4 wides, and after that he would lose all movement and with no options left, he would have to resort to bouncers. After three more overs, he would lose all steam and batsmen would milk him off.
What happened to TV programs like this....mostly hype-less without some idiot uninformed commentator shouting?
Shoaib akhter… *hold my cap*.. 😂
Sorry but bowler in 70's &80's are very fast and accurate on the other hand shoaib wast very fast but you can't compare shoaib with this legend and search malcom marshal dennis lielli jeff thompson andy roberts joel garnal micheal holding
@@GurmeetSingh-pp9xt also their uniform and kits used to be tight. Whereas in the modern day bowlers are more comfortable with their action.
Thomson bowled full tosses and overpitched balls whereas Holding and Andy Robert's bowled short pitched. Not an equal comparison.
Take into account the views of the wicketkeepers. Jeff Dujon once said Patrick Patterson was the fastest that he kept wicket to.
Patrick Pattetson story is really sad .
He suffered from depression and suddenly went into oblivion till.he was spotted by an Indian ,
David Williams told me the same thing.
Pattrick Patterson didn't debut at this time..
@@Jack-qn9ic talking about the real fast and patsy was.up there and vanished intp the blue
He would not have to playing for the w.i at the time. Regional and club cricket they would have crossed paths.
I have NO IDEA why the issue of fastest bowler was ever an issue! FFS - just count the number of frames from release of ball til when it reaches the popping crease!!! Fewest frames = fastest bowler!!! It couldn't be easier if you have the technological means to count frames (which is surely pretty low-tech).
Maybe people like to measure how fast it comes out of the hand but I think that's a side issue: what counted, in terms of giving the batsman the least amount of reaction time or time to adjust, was time from release to being adjacent to your bat or body.......
147.9 measured at the stumps, that's fucking rapid
in those days they used to measure speed of the ball from the time it left a bowlers hand until the it reached the batsman.it lost as much as 10% of the original speed.it's different now, speed is measured in the first 4-5 feet it has travelled after leaving the bowler's hand. So technically thomson bowled at 162.69.
@@aamirkhan1846 still a myth.. all theoritical calculations. There is a reason why nobody has bowled faster than just 100mph
World 🌎 no 1 fastest boller Sylvester class no 1
Patric Petersen no 2
Shoheb Akhter 💚 no 3
Breat Lee no 4
Jeff Thomson no 5
Andy Roberts no 6
Maikle holding no.7
Imran Khan no.8
No bady indian fast boller 😂😂😂
Final Standings After 8 balls:
By Top Speed:
1. Jeff Thomson: 147.9 Average: 142.0
2. Michael Holding: 141.3 Average: 135.3
3. Imran Khan: 139.7 Average: 138.3
4. Colin Croft: 139.2 Average: 134.7
5. Andy Roberts: 138.6 Average: 135.3
6. Dennis Lillee: 136.4 Average: 132.5
7. Garth Leroux: 135.9 Average: 132.4
8. Wayne Daniel: 133.5 Average: 128.2
9. Len Pascoe: 131.6 Average: 127.7
10. Richard Hadlee: 129.8 Average: 128.1
By Average Speed:
1. Jeff Thomson: 147.9 Average: 142.0
2. Imran Khan: 139.7 Average: 138.3
3. Michael Holding: 141.3 Average: 135.3
4. Andy Roberts: 138.6 Average: 135.3
5. Colin Croft: 139.2 Average: 134.7
6. Dennis Lillee: 136.4 Average: 132.5
7. Garth Leroux: 135.9 Average: 132.4
8. Wayne Daniel: 133.5 Average: 128.2
9. Richard Hadlee: 129.8 Average: 128.1
10. Len Pascoe: 131.6 Average: 127.7
By Accuracy:
1. Jeff Thomson: 5
2. Garth Leroux: 4
3. Sarfraz Nawaz : 4
4. Mike Proctor: 3
5. Wayne Daniel: 2
6. Dennis Lillee: 1
Michelle stark too lad
And Thommo was half pissed and had to borrow some shoes and whites for the competition. He was having a few beers with Kerry Packers and after six beers, Kerry asked Thommo why he wasn't at the fastest bowler competition. The rest is history.
So, Dennis Lillee was marginally slower than Shardul Thakur. LOL.
And all old players still continue to say they were faster than Bret Lee, Shane bond or akthar.. who can bowl around 155..
Shaun Tate AVE 250!!
This is great. Unfortunately, we'll never know for sure who THE fastest bowler ever was, to me it seems there's a certain level that can occasionally be reached, but we'll never know for sure. Geoff Boycott said that Holding was the fastest he'd faced, and that he felt he had more in him if he wanted it (scary thought). He didn't face Thomson in the mid-1970s though. Benaud swore the fastest bowling he ever saw was Frank Tyson in Australia in 1954/55. Alan McGilvray was convinced Eddie Gilbert was the fastest he'd ever seen (and faced). Fascinating to wonder how quick they all would be captured with modern equipment.
What if such competitions are held now and the same equipment for testing the speed of the current bowlers. Some confusion or myth can be cleared. Also I would like to add another point the 15 degree elbow flexion was not implemented back then . Which seems like they may not be so fast & furious but were genuine pacers with clean undisputed action. Because the flexion gives a clear advantage in terms of bounce swing and pace. Lee ,Tait and akthar cleary have some flexion in their actions. Where as Starc Johnson Bond Milne fidel Edwards and some bowlers who clocked over 150 have very less or sometimes negligible amount of flexion.
Pigeon too had flexion
Very entertaining, but getting back to reality this is nothing more than a net session shown in prime time to advertise pizza, fried chicken and coca-cola, no surprise it was never tried again.
If we are going to gauge athletes on their performances in the nets or at the gym then nobody is ever going to measure up to actual competition. Hanging a 'worlds fastest bowler competition' label on it doesn't make it so. Having been a fast bowler that could break stumps back in my younger days I can tell you that the nets are a training tool to develop strength and stamina and refine technique but nobody ever gets more than 90 percent of maximum performance, you need to a batsman at the other end and something to play for to achieve that extra 10 percent motivation. A fast bowler in a Test match or any serious competition needs to bowl for about 3 hours max over 5-6 days and be at 100 percent every ball, even then you only get top pace perhaps 2 balls per over over a 4-5 over spell, even the fittest athletes cannot do better. These guys had been invited to a competition which was written into their contract to perform in a contest they obviously could not win, Thomson had played no form of organised cricket for 8 months but everybody in the game knew that nothing they could do would ever come close to this guy. Yes there was a nice cash prize for the 'winner' but for everybody else there was literally nothing but the chance of getting injured from over extending and sitting out the rest of the season on the injury bench. Enjoy it but don't use it as any realistic measure of reality.
Such an absolute gift. Thank you!!!
I can't help thinking that if they had a batsman at the other end, it could have made them all bowl just a little bit faster! If each bowler had been allowed to choose their most hated batsman to bowl to (or at!), then it would have made things more interesting. I also think that bowling a full over, rather than individual deliveries would have helped the bowlers with rhythmn and accuracy.
Speed seems too low. Either these bowlers can be hyped up or speed measurement done in this video vs current speed measurement technique is definately different. Even MS Dhoni bowled 134 kmph which is being hard for Dennis lillee. 20 time slower is the culprit i think it should be more slower also point of relase also matters.
The speed measurement must of gone wrong that day MS Dhoni 134 kmph !!!
@@jahno7154 not MS DHONI ITS SHAHID AFRIDI
@@Adilpathan-qc9qnI could believe that. Didn't Shahid Afridi bowl one at 85 mph
These bowlers would be smacked easily by any modern great batsman or power-hitter .
Akhtar , Brett Lee, McGrath, Steyn>>>> these slow dinosaur bowlers 😆😆
My Respect for Shoaib Akhtar just went up... Like no disrespect to these legends.... But how scary Akhtar must have been with 161.3 Km/h being his highest he used to bowl consistently at over 150+. What a beast of bowler he was
Lee has far more 150 plus deliveries recorded than soaib…even he reached 160 plus 4 times which is more than soaib….yes soaib was more furious because he wanted to kill batsmen where on the other hand lee was focused on the good lengths and the Yorkers only.
@@writamchatterjee4676Absolutely 💯
Methods used to measure speed are different. Shoaib's speed was measured only at the time of release. But in this video they measure speed based on time taken by ball to reach other end. And we all know that speed drops considerably once you hit the deck
Thomson bowled in this event after his shoulder injury. He was waaaaaay quicker prior to the shoulder injury after a collision on field with Alan Turner.
The speed Thomson bowled at in Brisbane in 1974 against England must have topped 160km/hr@@AndyTychon
Why here we continuously saying like that era was golden
According to fast,
New generation bowlers are much better fast deliveries than those
Pls anybody clarify me...??
Fail to see why so many are finding fault with the outcome. Thommo was in a bar when he got the news about the 'shoot-out'. He hadn't played in 6 months as he has said on many occasions in interviews, Channel 7(?) knew this but encouraged him anyway. The others were all match fit, playing or at least training for a 'season' coming up. They all had the same rules and conditions. They knew the rules... no real warm-ups as if playing in a match and having had several overs to get rhythm. The comments from batsmen and commentators of the time talking about Thommo, pretty much backed up the truth he was the fastest. Lloyd, Richards, Bumble ( David LLoyd) Lawrence Rowe, Dujon, Lillee, Pascoe, Grieg and here's a direct comment from England Captain Mike Brierley said, “Broken marriages, conflicts of loyalty, the problems of everyday life fall away as one faces up to Thomson.” The accuracy prize must been sweet for him as the detractors have always said he was wild and no control. Truth is he always bowled to get the ball down to the batsmen/stumps as fast as he could so that was his style...he pretty much bowled using sheer pace, (he has said that too on many occasion, think sometimes he does play up to the image some people have of him)... whereas the others were trying to beat him ( they all knew who was the fastest) and by just bowling as fast as they could.. accuracy went. I find it funny that the relatively unfit 'Bankstown beach-bum's' average speed was still faster than any of their fastest balls !!
I believe Kerry packer asked thommo why he wasn't down there trying out . Thommo had problems with contracts with cricket Australia or something. Mr packer in true packer style told thommo i own this you get your ass down there and you'd better win, I think thommo said Mr packer had had a substantial side bet for thommo to win .packer made sure thommo was included..
@@aussiesmoko Thomo is the Chopper Reed of the cricket world. Some of what he says may be accurate but you don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn!
In his own words, "I'd been sittin' on me arse on me back verandah all summer, drinkin' beer".
Bear in mind this was also a couple of years after the collision with Alan Turner which wrecked hos shoulder and robbed him of several yards. He was still quick after that but no longer terrifying.
This era was the real ERA for FAST BOWLERS 💀☠️🗿
Hadlee not the fastest but the best and most accurate normally.
FIXED
Where do you get that from?
@Rushi Prajapati no it is clearly out of the hand
Best? Lillee also took 67 wickets in World Series cricket (probably higher standard than test cricket, and he was the top wicket-taker), which would put him on 422 when added to his “official” 355 test wickets.
@@rufioswitch2132 Hadlee played in a worse team.
Hate me all u want. Curse me all u want. BUT I cam here tk say that, these bowlers played during a time when there were no helmets, arm guards etc.
If these bowlers played today, they d get smacked the hell out of the ground left right and center. See thats the thing. Today's batsmen dont have to deal with the fear of injury due to their protective gear hence they d ve whooped their asses.
Back then they just bulied batsmen who had no protective gear. As soon as the helmet came, batsmen started smacking the shit out of these bullies.
The 4 feared west indian bowlers would get their ass handed to them by Rohit, Kohli, Warner,l etc.
Hell, Tendulkar would ve pissed all over them😂
Shame Thommo wasn't recorded before his injury in 1976/77.
Yes 1974/75 he was at his peak. Can you imagine him with raw pace before the broken collarbone.
I just shuffle up and go whammo !! Might have been the quote.
I think Thommo was recorded in 1975 at 99.8 mph. The record lasted for 30 years. But I still think to this day that he bowled faster. True Aussie larrikin.
Lol. Bunch of medium pacers with no accuracy. People gotta start appreciating the modern day greats.
Remember,speed in those days were calculated when the ball reached the batsmen it means that speed of the ball when it reached the batsmen was considered actual speed,but when shoib and bretlee started to bowl from then onwards bowls sperd started to be measured when it left the bowlers hand.So as per todays standards all of them were bowling above 150 km/h regularly and jeff thompsons 147 was above 160.
I don't think that was the way they measured in this competition...notice the square grid in background...they calculate speed by simple distance travelled divided by time taken...
Hum andhe hain kya jab shoaib aur brett lee bowl chorte the dekh k pata lag jata tha 150 k speed daal rahen hain same with waqar younis also agar speedo meter naa bhi available ho toh tab bhi naked eye se pata lag jata tha
@@ayushsinghchauhan22 yeh more calculated than like towards speed cameras
Honestly if they didn't make the ball bounce they might have beaten their own record
Methods used to measure speed are different. Shoaib's speed was measured only at the time of release. But in this video they measure speed based on time taken by ball to reach other end. And we all know that speed drops considerably once you hit the deck
Yes but Michael Holding was tested using very similar equipment and methods to current ones in 1980 by an Aussie Uni and he topped out at around 138km.
I watched a lot of Garth Le Roux and Croft in the 80s and these speeds look bang on the mark.
whopping $1000 for prize money - congratulation guys!
Jeff Thomson is quickest bowler,but great Malcolm Marshall is complete bowler.
Thommo the most accurate he must have had an off day lol
I think they would've bowled faster if they had a batsman to bowl at.
😂😂🤣🤣
@@g.r.smurthy62
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How come Shoaib and Brett Lee bowl at 150km/hr ...??
Now those were the good old days of cricket..... Long gone now
yep, that was the classic era huh, late 70s early 80s, so many great players and characters in the game and one day-ers white ball coloured clothing were new and exciting etc.
1979 - One player springs to mind immediately Jeff Thomson but don’t forget Harold Larwood in the 30’s and Frank Tyson in the 50’s for we will never know how fast they bowled.
I watched this when it first aired on TV. Thommo, fastest and most accurate.
So Imran Khan's fastest and average are about the same. Though at the start he was being called Medium to fast and Lilliee as furious fast, but he is no where in the competition at all.
I heard thommo was pretty fast, Patrick Patterson was the fastest I saw. Depends on the day really
Brett Lee.
Big Joel could sling em
Imagine what Rohit the Hitman will do to these bowlers back in the day🤣🤣
I salute you Richard handlee
hats off windies
It was always known that Thommo was the fastest of his era. He was a top Javelin thrower that is why he had such a slingee action. In my 40 years of watching top level cricket only Shoaib A and Brett Lee have clocked as fast. Special mention to Waqar who was super quick for a smaller guy.
@Tech SUPPORT I Googled it 1.83m - 6ft. Yes taller than I thought.
Starc and Tait??
@@mjt7585 Yes, Tait has 2nd fastest delivery of 100.1 mph, Starc, I think is just behind Lee in speed ranking.
Waqar Younis was officially timed at 153kph after his injuries. I heard that he was recorded around 157kph before he got injured, but it was not officially verified so it remains speculation. Regardless Waqar was a true freak in his own regard. Can you name any other bowler who could reverse swing the ball like he did at 150+ with lethal accuracy on the stumps, like he did during the 1990s?
Where is Kapil Dev?
The most graceful and deadly fastest bowler of all time Malcolm Marshall.
Shoaib akhtar laughing in the corner 😂
@creativity2598 Don't think so pal he might have been quicker but was not in the same league as Marshall !!
@@liamfitzgerald8557 Marshall was cute in front of Shoaib's bouncer's
@creativity2598 Are you for reel ? There were fragments of Mike Gatting's nasel bone tissue in-bedded in the ball after Marshall hit him in the face at Sabina Park !! Marshall also took his 376 Test wickets at 20.94. He was also fit and could bowl all day unlike Shoab
@@liamfitzgerald8557 Marshall is nowhere close records speak for themselves
Where is Kapil Dev?
Dennis lillee is my all time fav.
Yassssss!!!! 👌🏻
DK off the long run!!!
Yes... At the end of the day Pace does Matters
No even the West Indies players acknowledged at the time, Thompson was the fastest by far
So yesteryears express bowlers are equal to today's medium pacers.
IMRAN KHAN was my favourite of all times, not only was he a fast bowler, a great all rounder but the best Captain out of all these great Cricketers , they were all legends .
Plus his ex-Mrs was HOT! 😁
You need a psychiatrist along with Imran
Ball tamperer
@@aryanwarrior6233typical indian
@@cryptonews5943 accpt d truth bro cheaters like imran have tainted d game of cricket
7:45 condolences to the stump’s family
Speed was calculated from the hand in those days too.. that’s why the screen is placed behind the bowler.
Mesurements were carried out at 90Deg. to the two creases near to the boundary. Testing was done in Perth WA as part of studies performed by UWA. There were no devices that measured linearly in 1979.
@@flamingfrancis for this competition, or for games? Surely in this one the grid parallel to the crease, plus the frame rate is what calculates the speed? Ie distance over time?
Sly Clarke would hit you on the helmet and the ball would have gone for 4*(no ballshit.)
Those days Speed is measured when ball is reached to the batsmen and now a days Speed is measured when ball is delevred from hand .. .
Bowling is measured at bowling end and Thompson era it's a batting side
Wrong. The speed is measured from the bowlers end in this comp. (With the grid you see). Therefore it's from the hand.
@@pubudusenanayake6724 exactly, with high speed camera's from the time
@@thehoppo So does that mean it's measured at the batsmen? No ...
@@pubudusenanayake6724 it was measured using high speed cameras from the hand
Richard Hadley is running a successful business in South India with my Malyali friend's friend. People always encircle him for autographs and stuff here. He is so fond of South India I believe.
What would you call Lee Akthar and Tait then?
yesteryear players looked more manly.
All these players in the video except Thomson are not throwing really fast. 150kmph is high school speed in baseball.
Faster the ball farther it goes. Example mark wood in this world cup
Lillee and Thompson were my idols and quite young I could imitate their actions quite well. My dad took super 8. I adapted the Lillee style to use because it was more consistent for me and I could hit the seam, but I felt the "Tommo" was faster. As a physio I now know that's because you create a lot more leverage across the left knee, which more easily obtains terminal extension and has less forward flexion force to overcome - faster for longer.
When I got to high school and learned javelin I realised that that was Thompson's technique.
I still dont understand why conventional and Thompson's javelin stye aren't both taught to youngsters, so they may choose what works for them. Even if only 10% can master javelin style, they will have a lot of success.
To my untrained eye, Thomson's style looks like a recipe for shoulder and other injuries? And perhaps that's why youngsters are encouraged to stay away from that technique?
Who gives a shit ! The top wicket takers are all spinners at test level , then is a swing bowler from England who is medium pace . The more important question is... is there a better opening bowling attack than Ambrose and Glenn Mcgrath 🤔
if we want to compare these bowlers with the modern bowlers....then .only way is to use same old techniques to measure pace of current bowler just to examine(not for the game)alongside with the modern techniques...,and from that data we can take a reference b/w paces measured....and surely we will get the answer....although i think people generally used to boast a lot of vintage bowling....if we compare pace from the video itself we would see that imran Khan who is a not sheer fast bowler like Thompson and Lillie...he is hitting 135+,,,frommy point of view keeping all in mind....fastest bowler was shoaib akhtar...and Thompson but Lillie,brett lee,holding,starc,johnson,shane bond,tait,andy Roberts,garner r too close and in a same league
Just don't put Tait among them. If anything Tait was actually quicker than both lee and akhtar.
Another factor is that different makes of speed guns were used to measure Akhtar and Lee. When the differences in speed are fractional, wouldn't matters such as instrument calibration be needed to produce definitive results?
Also, Lillee was recovering from flu when this test was done - 'The art of fast bowling', by Dennis Lillee
Now a days even Hardik bowl at 140 kmh
A much better way of testing real speed would have been giving them bowl 1 complete over of 6 balls in one go. It gives them the rythm needed to bowl faster.
How are they going to hold 6 balls?
@@cooper512 He was talking about cricket balls.
Batters were brave enough to face such formidable pace attack without a helmet..