Do You Really Want A Powder Blue Tang? (Acanthurus leucosternon)
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2019
- Are you sure you want a Powder blue tang? (Acanthurus leucosternon)
Care requirements of the powder blue tang
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Great video, very professionally laid out and easy to understand. All of your videos awesome!
Great video!
Ive now has mine for almost 15 yrs. So far has survived a reef crash where ATO put salinitt down to 1.021 from 1.025. Was sole survivor. Did full QT on all fish however so that may be my saving grace.
Youre tank looks awsome!
Yes not panicking and letting them ich pass worked for me. 👍🏾👍🏾
Probably my favorite of your fish care videos
I'm trying to improve on them :)
Another good vid from one of my fav reefer channels. And this time, hits close to home.
Currently i am dealing with ich in my latest tank. Its really bumming me out, i am worried for my fish, and stressing about the situation.
I was careful with this tank, it was to be my best setup to date. I started with dry rock, I QT'd all new fish that went in it, i did, however, just transfer some of my oddball fish straight into it from other tanks i have, but there were no problems with them. It has been doing great. Started up last summer, and latest new fish were added a few months ago, after QT ofc.
I added 1 new creature to the system a couple weeks ago, and about 5-7 days after that i started seeing whitespot on my hippo tang. The creature in question.... A red brittle star added to the fuge underneath. I acclimated, and then pulled it out of that water and put him into the fuge, to not dump any unknown water into my system.
I didn't think it was possible to get ich this way, from a starfish. It was shipped to me from an online retailer that i have been very happy with in the past. So, one would think, with the lifecycle, that time in shipping would kill off any the parasites in the free swimming stage. There is really no other explanation on how it arrived in my tank, as nothing new was added for months before this. (The chances seem astronimocal that it would come from the water stuck on the starfish during transfer, (after shipping time of 12-18 hours), make it through the macro, and out my fuge, through the post fuge sponges filled with amphipods, past the skimmer, and pumped up into the display, and then spread so fast). (I suppose it it was holding a detached tomont or 2 it could make it through shipping and spread fast, that is my best guess...)
I am trying to just deal with it and see if it controls itself. I am trying reef medic, (it can't hurt to try), to help combat the free swimming stages(is what it says anyway) and also have increased feeding. Also increased water change percentage to be able to vacuum as much as possible. So far doesn't seem to be getting worse, but not any better yet either, its still early... You know, lifecycles, and stages....
In a perfect scenario, i should pull all the fish and QT them, but its not feesible. Too many fish, not enough QT room, only have a couple small QT tanks, and 1 has fish in it already. Not to mention, having to pull all the rock to get them. Half of these fish love their caves and holes. Impossible to catch without removing all the rock.
So now, most fish are still unaffected, the blue hippo looks bad, not totally covered with white spots, about 25-30, but there are some that look bigger and oddshaped (i also dosed prazipro because of this, just in case, but none fell off and its been 3 days since then). The altantic blue has spots all over, smaller than typical ich spots, but a lot of them, mostly on the body, few on the fins, none on the eyes, And the cowfish has half a dozen spots, typical grain of salt looking ich spots. (Point being each of the 3 fish have different looking white spots).
I do have one other tank that has had ich in the past, (my orange themed tank). i did good vacuumings with water changes, concentrating on spots where stuff normally settles, and kept them fed good, and it passed. (I am thinking the micro fauna helped alot in this case, that tank has an outbreak (if you can call it that), of baby brittle stars, started as tiny whites, but now have little black and white banded arms, some of which a couple inches long now, coming out of my rocks everywhere). Haven't seen a single spot in about 2 years, so i know it can be controlled. But at the same time, because it was infected, it is always the last tank i did water changes on, on cleaning day, so as to not transfer any drops of water to other tanks, just in case. (Now i have 2 tanks that need to be the last to maintain, and the previous last tank just got moved to 2nd to last).
Like i said, bummed. All my favorites were put into this tank. (hard to say that as all my fish are all favorites, but anyway). Some of which in this tank are a Cowfish, comet (marine betta), mated pair of unidentified (rare?) color changing, bottom dwelling, burrowing, gobies(blennies?) flame hawk, midas blenny, mated pair of banded shrimp, longspine cardinal, flame cardinal, flame angel, blue hippo, atlantic blue tang. Even the clean up crew is oddball, using a lot of money cowries(favorite snail), pink serpent star, 2 large (3-4 inches and still growing) starry hermits, rock urchins, (i had pencil urchins also, but they were eating my gorgonians), along with the typical trochus and astrea snails, scarlett and blue hermits. I also added some of those micro fauna, to the tank, (tiny brittlestars, mini nassarius snails), but will take time to get a significant population.
As long as i mentioned stock list, i will just add, most of my green corals are moved into here also. Echinata, digitata, hydnophora, frogspawn, hammer, radioactive zoas, nepthia, hulk chalice, green palys, candycane, birdsnest. Wanted a bright green theme, with colorful fish.
Not sure y'all needed all this detail, once i get rolling, i just keep going.
Anyway, I'm dealing with ich, sharing my experience, and any other advise or past experience with controlling it in a display tank would be appreciated.
WOW, yet another great intro, SHANK HAHAHAHA!!!!!! I might not be alone in thinking you should consider doing a corals in your reef video or video series. That may entice more people to want in on what you have to offer. Not sure if 120ish corals would be good for just 1 video. It's nice that you're highlighting many different types in your aquarium, but I'd love to see them and there has to be some stories about many of them. Like I got this cali tort from fish store x with James bond because he bet me an Austin Martin I couldn't keep it alive...
Great video as always. I’ve found that using Vitalis/New Era Platinum flake makes a real difference to tangs showing signs of white spot. Within a few days of feeding they start to make a recovery. I have actually chosen to do this instead of use reef safe white spot cures on a few occasions and haven’t lost a fish yet, which I can’t say for copper free “treatments”. Always interesting to hear what has and hasn’t worked for different reefers.
Great video! I find all of this is also true for the powder brown, (Acanthurus Japonicus)
My Blue Tang lives in a peaceful coexistence with a good sized clown Lavender Tang, Bengali, Saphire Damsel and another large fish I can never remember the name. It is a 180 gallon rectangle. She had tail rot when I got her, she was a rescue. I highly suggest growing or buying cheatomorpha, they love it.
I care for 8 tangs in my reef 3 of which are acanthus and IMO there is no way to keep tangs without quarantine first, let alone multiples. I have a dedicated 60g tank with sump that all the fish I own have been in prior to my reef tank and they ALL have been treated with cupramine there would be no way to keep them together if there were ich in my system I plan to document it to try to help people simply for the fishes sake. There is another UK reefer with a large audience as yourself that has a video titled " I hate tangs" which is the most asinine thing to say when you keep repeating the same process leading to failure. Tangs are easy fish to keep as long as there is no ich in the system and all fish should be ran thru cupramine or TTM at the very least and it amazes me that people for the most part don't medicate first and then still wonder why there tang has white spot..... SMFH.
But but but... garlic, and um, every tank has ich because it's in the water supply! And quarantine is harder on your fish than dying!
Great content
Thank you
Mine was super easy to care for. He was definitely skinny when I got him. Day of purchase he was eating live brine in QT. Two days later he was eating frozen food. At this point he was still super skinny, I suspected internal parasite, so I treated him. 2 days later, still no improvements. The next day he finally started to pick on Nori, this is when he fattened up. They need a reliable source of food that they can graze on throughout the day.
Also, something hugely misunderstood about them is their activity level. I have debated getting one at so many different stages in this hobby, but you really have to wait until you get a tank of 200 gallons or bigger. Mine is 4”, now fat. He is in a 7’ by 26” by 26” tank, about 250 gallons. He spends all day fighting the current from the wave maker or arguing with my other tangs.
thanks i,m oredy thinking of getting one
Great review. I agree with you Ryan that giving fish the optimal environment to thrive in is important. Some tangs especially the powder blue can be very challenging to say the least. Having a varied diet with a lot of rock work gives this beautiful specimen the best chance to grow and stay healthy..
You can have an ich free display tank with ich free fish when you properly quarantine them. Powder blues and Achilles should not have to live with ich in the tank. Do TTM for all fish and you wont get ich in your tank. As well as qurantine inverts and corals.
100%
I had one in a 90 gallon and never had any problems and always ran a decent sized uv sterilizer. Always feed my fish multiple types of food.
With the proper Qt procedure and patience the powder tangs are beautiful
No. Because even if you do everything right they can still get stressed out by water changes and spread ich
@@darkmagician2346 not entirely true. If quarantined properly they're isn't ich....
Mine was perfectly fine, was in an observation/QT tank for 2 weeks, moved him into the display, prestige reef is 100% right, if they’re healthy at the store, and they get it in your tank, it’s due to stress. I took the safe route, took out the two tank bullies to let the powder blue acclimate to his new surroundings. Then once he was settled, I added them back in, no white spot outbreaks, no fighting, etc
The aggression is no joke. At first my powder showed little temper, but for over a yr now he constantly chases my starry blenny.. both were added around the same time. Any new fish added are put through the ringer.. but I do love him regardless. He will get ich from time to time but it goes away on it's own. I've never experienced any hunger strikes though.
I've had my Powder Blue Tang for almost 13 years. In a 54 gallon bow front. His mates have since moved on and living solo in the tank for the last few years. Introduced some fish, and Tang started beating the crap out of the new fish, which I removed and returned. Now I have a tone of Bristle Worms in my rock. Thinking of getting a wrasse, as the wrasse can hide in the rocks in case of my Tang gets territorial. Thoughts??? Just running live rock in the tank
I live in Houston, Tx. I'm fowlr, let us know when you start fraggin'.
I can't ship to the US I'm afraid... plus you already have all the good stuff :p
I hope you are wrong. I bought a
How's your coral frag business going?! Sounds funzies!!
She’s a beauty!
Shes quite the showpiece :)
I would still buy one but only when I have a couple of years under my belt and a 175 gallon in my possession with some other fish in the tank
Wow are the powder brown a lil easyer Thx you
Hi, if cube aquariums are implemented instead of rectangle type, what is the minimal tang footprint they should have in your opinion?
Hi! Awesome video! So in some cases i could cure ich just feeding more times a day and maybe adding garlic oil?
Adding garlic appears to have mixed opinions with many saying it has no or even a negative effect, whereas some swear by it
If you want to keep a tang it's easy. Quarantine it and treat with copper no matter what. Or use TTM. Assume it has ich even if you don't see it. I personally started using TTM and no longer have problems with ich. You just have to treat for it even if you don't see it because it can be in the gills.
Came here to say this
My dream fish
When I first started in the Hobby about 8 years ago I got myself a powder blue called it Smithy within three weeks all my fish was dead for white spot vowed I never have one again my local fish shop will not sell them never gets them in they took transport well from abroad apparently probably easier if you lived in America just one of those fish I think should be left in the ocean but are a beautiful fish
Great video!! As always, iv just added a scooter blenny to my nano tank was just asking for some advice and tips will he eat the mysis that my other fish eat or will I have to get some additional food? Thanks in advance 😊
Jay W he may eat it but you need to make sure he’s eating enough of it
Hey didn't know where to post this but does anyone know the best way to get a regal angelfish to be fine with a multicolor angel (I have a 125 gallon tank) I read regal Angels can work with dwarf angels but not how
Love my pbt
Goes for the japonicus too..had one.
Most gorgeous animal but most stressfull addition to my tank ever.
Would never buy one again unless I have a 2000 liter tank
What are you feeding the box fish?
What size tank would you recommend for a Powder Blue? I've got a 6 foot 125 and I've heard a variety of things as to whether or not a 125 is a good size. Some recommend that 180 is the bare minimum while sites such as LiveAquaria say it's 125. I ask this because this is certainly a fish I'm interested in keeping despite its difficulties. Perhaps as something to build towards as I gain more experience but I want to make sure the tank size is enough so that it's able to live a comfortable life if I do decide to pick one up.
I've got a cantankerous little buddy in my 150 that is doing quite well. He is a little turd though. He's killed two wrasses that I've introduced. I also had a yellow tang die that the powder blue didn't like. I won't say that he killed it, but the yellow tang withered away.
The Powder Blue is my Achilles Heel. I just lost one a few weeks ago that was a beautiful specimen. At this point I think I’m just being selfish as that was my 3rd over a span of a couple years. I think I’ll wait till my new build is completed before trying again. If I have no success after that point I will gladly refrain from keeping one. Also, sorry to have missed the premiere for this video. As always Thank you for all your hard work and Thanks for the upload !!
2PLEEZ Coral Reefs Imo, some fish are just better off the in the ocean man, I think 3 times is enough, but in the end is up to you!
JekCynical .... Ya I’m not trying to be a fish killer by any means. I guess I was just determined to keep one and it got to me.
@@2pleez122474 I understand man, best of luck
JekCynical .... Thanks ✌🏻
I had a powder blue and powder brown tang and they both got ich and died. Seems like the more expensive fish are the ones susceptible to ich. My blue hippo tang “dory” got a taste of ich at one point but shook it off
These are sooo pretty but super prone to infection.
My powder brown get ich every time I change the water or add new fish. Have taken to doing water changes in the sump so not to stress him out.
Omg for reals someone who knows my pain😭 I had a blue tang and it always broke out every time I did a water change lol
Great video, question, would a powder blue tang, and a yellow tang work well together in a 125 gallon FOWLR aquarium?
I think so, but powder I think you can only put babys or very small ones it can get to 9 inches
I ended up getting a convict tang, it is much easier than many other acanthurus genus tangs
I wish I could meet you in real life, you seem like so much fun
I'm no where near as much fun in real life
Hi mate, excellent videos. A big hello from the Rock of Gibraltar. I've been a keen hobbyist for over 20years but always stayed loyal to fresh water setups. I've recently migrated to a 325l reef aquarium. Could you advise what would be the best 3 gangs to introduce?
Hi there. How has your experience been so far with your reef tank? I'm a veteran in the freshwater tank game but on the fence as to whether I wanna take it to the next level with a saltwater tank. Cost is one thing, but the extreme level of attention and care is another.
@@EtoTheKay doing well ungraded to a 550l now. Have had challenges but relatively confident now 🤞
Another great video. Does garlic help also with preventing white spots? I heard this before and give my fish and the tang I had before, 2-3 a week with the frozen food. I never saw any on him or the other fish. Hope you would consider shipment to Germany when the time comes to sell your corals? Great info!
Garlic is heavily debated as to if it has any effect at all, I use it but I cant say it actually works for sure
I have used brine shrimp with garlic for years and I have never had any diseases
Garlic doesn't help with ich but it can help entice a finicky fish to eat.
I'm from the U.S. and would love to purchase some corals or perhaps fish if you get to that!
When you say “white spot” do
You mean ich? Velvet? I have one of these in quarantine now and his aggression towards the hippo tang I also have in that tank (seperating them with a sheet of glass) suggests he wi go in last lol. You are correct that they are prone to getting ich, however if ich doesn’t exist in your tank to start with, then it can’t manifest an ich outbreak on its own....
Couple points of correction. Acanthurus tangs do not have appreciable scales or slime coat, (some studies suggest that their exterior is not comprised of “traditional” scales and that they actually don’t have any form of slime coat) this is why they are prone to catching things like ich. They also have a delicate digestive tract, which would cause them to boycott food. Periodic feeding of medicated food will help keep their digestive tract In good shape, and they will likely never boycott food.
Ich, its referred to as whitespot more commonly over here
I want one soooooooo bad
My powder blue did not do well in my tank…I should have quarantined him.
My pbt died last nite, No clue why tho. Came home from work and fed the fish then when I woke up he was dead.
I’m 100 like no dislikes to, nice seems like his channel is growing sad I don’t live in the uk
Lol the trolls must be on holiday
Prestige Reef I’m also looking to get a scopas tang in a 54 any tips
This made me spit my coffee out
Time to get a wet wipe
I still want one
lol if this hasnt put you off... maybe you should get one :p
my powder blue is a good boy...
What type of fish at 1.28 ?
Trop fragile comme poisson !!! 👏👏👏
I’m in Orlando, Florida I wanna get this tang buying it from world wide corals to go in my 220
Lucky you, I wish I was near WWC
I have one 3 years to date , he is amazing , just keep feeding them with .Garlic , Ginger infused food
Thats pretty good going
@@PrestigeReef Thank you ..ps my Box Fish has tripled in size since we last spoke about them. He goes up the auto feeder and snatches the flakes before they can spread into the aquarium..i have stopped that now with a barrier ...
what food did you stick on the glass? Thanks
Probably nori/seaweed
They're so pretty. So tempting. But I'm scared it would nuke my tank
Mines is a complete psychopath 🤦♂️
lol sounds familiar...
tangs in general generally do not seem like good animals for captivity
Get a UV and you will never see white spot again.
Thanks for the smack in the head. I appreciate it. 🤪
😍😍😍
lol
I got powder brown instead
Oh geez mine gets it in fall. Ugggg. It's so irritating.
What do I do to make my tank the best for him
Try and keep it as stress free as possible, clean water and plenty of food
You're getting funnier
lol I try my best
Tangs are like cows if cows had razor blades on their butts.
lol this made me actually laugh
So I just got this fish today he’s acoamating but I khow he came from a trusted lfs so I hope he will be ok
Hopefully you got a good one
🤣😂🤣 so you're gonna start selling coral huh!!
Awesome job bud !
This video is old… I now am selling coral 😂
@@PrestigeReef o wow you actually responded! Nice!
Haha yeah it was kind of a joke and a thumbs up at the same time!
It's awesome that selling coral has worked out so well for you , and cool for me to be able to watch it happen!
Love the channel ,keep up the awesome work!!!
You do need plan your tank it, as otherwise it won't be able to remain living in water, and would remain exposed to air LOL. Nice tang.
lol Shank!
Its because they are like prison thugs
Very lovely. I have 9 tangs and yes the powder blue is nutty aggressive!!! All other are just fine. No ich issues cause I religiously run a uv sterilizer....its a must have to keep your sanity....trust me on this one. Check out my video...only 240 gallons and 9 tangs in harmony but I keep my rock work only in the middle of tank which gives more roaming area and no dead spots for flow issues. Try it
How did you introduce the box fish in with the tangs? I want one
Add them all at once
MATT AQUATICS there other way round
Never understood why the powder blue tang is popular, they look 💩 to me
Powder blues should be left in the ocean the death rate in captivity is so high....
Eh...QT a fish never have. I feel it stressed them more. 18 tangs never lost one. Call it luck or experience. Dont really care what others think. Collection is key reputable suppliers and Transportation/Collection are key. 8 purple tangs 1 sohal 1 naso 1 yellow eye 2 gem tangs 1 yellow belly regal. 1 flame fin 1 Sail Fin tang and a Dussumieri tang. I know what I have and had for 17 years. Good advice for newbies but not the law of the land. If you know what you are doing. With tangs size of tank does matter. You need room to break up aggressive behavior.
Mine is as good as gold but its only a baby
lol you just wait
Got mine as a baby as well and I was quit worried from many stories as the one above, but after a year so far no problems whatsoever. I was worried at first as I got him small enough he didn't have much color (ordered online), but he is now a brilliant color and well behaved so far. His mates are yellow tang, Humu Humu, diamond goby, two true clowns, and fox face, fire shrimp, and skunk shrimp.
Oh no, you have a nuke fish!
Lol are you taking about the boxfish?
@@PrestigeReef Yes, the cute little guy, I would name it Chernobyl.
Yeah can’t a box fish kill all the fish In your tank if they release toxin? Curious cause iv wanted one but thought this was the case and never pulled the trigger on one
Hahahahah jab, jab, jab jab, Jabby jab jab 😁
Quote Bart Simpson
Lol I think I'll name mine when I get it bart
um ur boxfish is cool
Lets not beat around the bush here people. Quarantine all new arrivals! If you don't add un-quarantined fish you won't have any white spot or any other disease in your tank that you treated in quarantine. As for my powder blue, he's amazing and he's my favorite fish but they are cheeky little bastards! I can't say he hasn't murdered several of his tank mates.
Shank 😂
lol couldnt resist
My ptb tang is a butt head
This fish is absolutely not as hard to take care of as always said….
Stunning fish but I wouldn’t dare get one !!!!!!!!!!!!
lol fortune favors the brave... :p
I really like the informative videos that you make, however I’ve noticed that we don’t really see much of your experience and expertise through the results of your “own” aquarium???
Sean Turner 6 lol that is my aquarium in most of the video
Prestige Reef please note that I said “much” keep the videos coming
I make vivariums, why am I watching this?
Lol maybe you secretly want to make aquariums
@@PrestigeReef If I had enough money for that :)
First!
lol you might want to recheck that :p
Second
lol Im not sure you get anything for second place
First
I'm not even sure how you were able to comment here during the premiere :p
I'm going to own a fish store one day
I wonder why so many people keep tangs, given all of their "issues." A large angel seems more entertaining than a load of tangs, and some species are said to be relatively reef safe in a large enough tank. While tangs are technically more reef safe, there is nothing safe about disease magnets and deadly agression.
Even in a big tank, a fish will not offset its nitrate footprint with its algae eating, or so it seems to me. Let inverts handle it.
Tangs > angels
Sorry, but I'm not taking advice from anyone who has had ich in their tank
lol it sounds like you’re taking advice from only people that are lucky and very new to the hobby then 😂
You realise that every experienced reefer will have had it at some point… BRS, Reef builders, and many many other people offering advice have had it 😅
Don’t go taking any advice from your local fish shop either
Looks like you'll be getting advice from your fishmonger then!
Good luck with that, I’m sure they’ll give wonderful expert hands on advice you muppet 😂
@@PrestigeReef My tank is over five years old and zero ich outbreaks. That's because every single fish went through a quarantine tank.