Thanks for the update, Nad seems a good guy, and generously gave you time to consult with him properly. I believe a lot of the 46 community think throwing shiny track parts at these cars makes them 'focused', yea, a lot more to it than that . Again mate, another thoughtful, mature and considered bit of film making, thanks for the time and effort.
@@davidharris5849 would love to get the KTM on track but it’s running 107+DB according to the owners club so will need a new exhaust to pass noise limits 🤦♂️
@@stoneautomotive hahaha, funny, y'know I was looking back maybe in '12 to buy the exact model bike you have, it was the one I wanted then. Try and come out to Almeria in 2nd week of october with focused events. 6 days on track in the mountains, it's a lovely break with a girlfriend,(aprox £1100 all in, food, car, flights, event) you drive 40 mins to the track from the hotel, rental car races every morning/evening, and you'll improve as a rider 6 fold. Very well run, organised events with no 'noise' tests, just 5 days tracktime, transponders, so you'll move up as you gain track knowledge. If you have time watch simon crafar's track guide to almeria - gold. I used to go 4 times a year when I had dough🤣
Yeah, I'm glad NAD UK made it better for you. I'm not surprised the difference was as much as you hoped for but maybe the track day will convince you otherwise. Keep the videos coming we are really enjoying them.
Awsome videos m8. Always a pleasure to watch and learn. If you are ever in Europe and come to Malta let me know and we’ll meet up. Have an E46 M3 in Estoril blue which i also got from the UK. Keep up the good work. E46 M3 FTW 😄
Thanks Christopher 😎 I’ve discussed another euro trip with the misses but who knows when the world will return to normal! Plenty more planned for the e46 😬
@James, to be honest I went from standard M-Tech suspension with Eibach pro spring kit (20mm lower F, 10mm R) to KW V3 and I was a little underwhelmed too.. The standard suspension from BMW M division is underated..
Great to see you got it sorted James. This is a prime example of a product getting overhyped,. There's no doubt that they are a top quality piece of kit but it's always so difficult trying to find a totally honest review before you buy, it's refreshing to find someone who gives a totally honest review such as yourself. Keep it up mate great channel 👍
Thanks mate, I wish it was as I hoped but lessons learned as always with the world of car modifications 😅 Glad your enjoying the channel, had a few messages/ comments with my honesty in the 1M video, think it was the only one online that didn’t state it was the best M car of all time 🙈
@@stoneautomotive I've got a 1M and my 46 and in my opinion the 1M needs a few mods to dial it in properly, a bit like a 46 really. It completely transformed my car from what it was stock, I considered selling it at one point but decided instead to keep and mod it and now I love the thing. They are a nice couple of cars to run beside each as they are both great drivers cars but at the same time very different.
@@mrmjb9373 I often wonder what I would think of a standard e46 M3 as mine has evolved so much from a stock car 🤔 What have you done to the 1M? I do love the look of them, they just look so trick with the short body and wide arches, the owner of the one I reviewed has just purchased one with 16,000 miles on it 😱
@@stoneautomotive My M3 has also evolved a lot over the years, I've owned her from new so had the car for 18years now. With the 1M the first thing I did was fit a set of performance seats as you know how much the recaros improved your 46, then it got a switchable Akra, then I fitted 18inch 260m wheels along with Ac Schnitzer rs coilovers and a proper geo set up and the last bits uprated Forge intercooler, uprated charge pipe and a mild remap. All those little bits just make a big cumulative effect to the car that make it a lot of fun. I don't use either car on track they are just purely road cars so I like them to be a bit more supple so you can drive them down bumpy back roads and still enjoy them. The 1M's suspension was far to hard from factory and always just felt completely out of its depth on my favourite back roads, it would get to the point where the car would just start pogoing over the bumps and if you didn't slow down it would just throw you off the road, the Schnitzer set up made a massive improvement, much better ride comfort with much better handling.
@@mrmjb9373 awesome! Sounds like you’ve addressed most of the concerns I had in my video 😎 Understand that, no plans to take the e92 on track as it does really hammer the components
Hi! If i were you i would set the dampers to 20 clicks out. For street use there is no reason to run it stiffer. With the high spring rates Öhlins have it will still be stiffer than stock but the dampers amazing damping they handle that perfectly at 20 clicks.
@@stoneautomotive ok😊. I have a M4 with Öhlins and i went down in spring rates on it. Much better, but the springs on the Öhlins kit for the M4 has been changed by Öhlins on the later kits now.
Oh nice man glad she's handling well again. I think you'll only notice a real difference on track. I personally love Ohlins for a fast road occasional track setup. So compliant compared to some other track stuff. Yeah E46 is a bit of a porker... Hides it's weight well! I guess without that much fuel and 90kg it be close to sub 1500kgs. Chuck a Deadweight Industries battery in there and knock out another 14kgs 💪
Agree it certainly needs to get on track, almost fell off the chair when I looked at track day prices at the moment - no one going abroad has certainly ramped those up! Could have done spa for the money pre-covid 😅 Yea there’s certainly some weight to be saved whilst still keeping it in road car trim - really tempted with some Apex Wheels in 18” to save some rotating mass and turn the look up 😎
Hi Gerard, I’m certain the KW kit is far more advanced than the oem dampers but what I was more pointing out was when I reviewed Matts Z4M with them fitted it didn’t handle/ feel any different to my set-up but this was road use only (I’m hoping track is where I will notice the difference 👍)
I wish I could say it had changed but still feel the same about them even more so after getting it out on track at Anglesey. It’s a lovely piece of kit but I wouldn’t say it warrants the price tag “personally” I find there very firm for road use even on the softest setting, at least for British back roads anyway.
@@stoneautomotive thanks for the quick response! I'm looking to replace the pss9s that have been on my M3 for well over 10 years now, but it's pretty hard to get a feel for what will improve the ride and if the premium is worth it. So appreciate the feedback on your experience.
Yep I would like to get her down a few KG’s but it always comes down to the same balance of cost vs practicality - my Clio 172 Cup is proof you can go too far for road use 😅
Thanks for the update, Nad seems a good guy, and generously gave you time to consult with him properly. I believe a lot of the 46 community think throwing shiny track parts at these cars makes them 'focused', yea, a lot more to it than that . Again mate, another thoughtful, mature and considered bit of film making, thanks for the time and effort.
Glad you enjoyed it David & thanks for the kind words 👍
We all get sucked in with shiny parts 😅
@@stoneautomotive now leave the cars, get some track fairings on your ktm, trackdays, and get back down to 80kilos 🤣🤣
@@davidharris5849 would love to get the KTM on track but it’s running 107+DB according to the owners club so will need a new exhaust to pass noise limits 🤦♂️
@@stoneautomotive hahaha, funny, y'know I was looking back maybe in '12 to buy the exact model bike you have, it was the one I wanted then.
Try and come out to Almeria in 2nd week of october with focused events. 6 days on track in the mountains, it's a lovely break with a girlfriend,(aprox £1100 all in, food, car, flights, event) you drive 40 mins to the track from the hotel, rental car races every morning/evening, and you'll improve as a rider 6 fold. Very well run, organised events with no 'noise' tests, just 5 days tracktime, transponders, so you'll move up as you gain track knowledge. If you have time watch simon crafar's track guide to almeria - gold. I used to go 4 times a year when I had dough🤣
Glad to hear that it’s been sorted. A decent a alignment makes a huge difference; my M140i was a different car after a morning at Centre Gravity.
Yeah, I'm glad NAD UK made it better for you. I'm not surprised the difference was as much as you hoped for but maybe the track day will convince you otherwise. Keep the videos coming we are really enjoying them.
Fingers crossed Mike & thanks - plenty more to come for the channel 😬
Coilovers on my E46 M3 absolutely transformed the car! Definitely the #1 mod I’ve done on it, even over the ESS525 supercharger kit I put on it
Which coilovers did you go with? I’m considering Öhlins Road and track of KW V3 at the moment
Awsome videos m8. Always a pleasure to watch and learn. If you are ever in Europe and come to Malta let me know and we’ll meet up. Have an E46 M3 in Estoril blue which i also got from the UK. Keep up the good work. E46 M3 FTW 😄
Thanks Christopher 😎 I’ve discussed another euro trip with the misses but who knows when the world will return to normal! Plenty more planned for the e46 😬
@James, to be honest I went from standard M-Tech suspension with Eibach pro spring kit (20mm lower F, 10mm R) to KW V3 and I was a little underwhelmed too.. The standard suspension from BMW M division is underated..
I think that’s it Warren, standard stuff for road use is actually pretty good
pleased he freed up those seized fasteners for you too
Any video with this car in gets my thumbs up mate. Look forward to the next one.
Thanks for the continued support Steve 👌
Great to see you got it sorted James.
This is a prime example of a product getting overhyped,.
There's no doubt that they are a top quality piece of kit but it's always so difficult trying to find a totally honest review before you buy, it's refreshing to find someone who gives a totally honest review such as yourself.
Keep it up mate great channel 👍
Thanks mate, I wish it was as I hoped but lessons learned as always with the world of car modifications 😅
Glad your enjoying the channel, had a few messages/ comments with my honesty in the 1M video, think it was the only one online that didn’t state it was the best M car of all time 🙈
@@stoneautomotive
I've got a 1M and my 46 and in my opinion the 1M needs a few mods to dial it in properly, a bit like a 46 really.
It completely transformed my car from what it was stock, I considered selling it at one point but decided instead to keep and mod it and now I love the thing.
They are a nice couple of cars to run beside each as they are both great drivers cars but at the same time very different.
@@mrmjb9373 I often wonder what I would think of a standard e46 M3 as mine has evolved so much from a stock car 🤔
What have you done to the 1M? I do love the look of them, they just look so trick with the short body and wide arches, the owner of the one I reviewed has just purchased one with 16,000 miles on it 😱
@@stoneautomotive My M3 has also evolved a lot over the years, I've owned her from new so had the car for 18years now.
With the 1M the first thing I did was fit a set of performance seats as you know how much the recaros improved your 46, then it got a switchable Akra, then I fitted 18inch 260m wheels along with Ac Schnitzer rs coilovers and a proper geo set up and the last bits uprated Forge intercooler, uprated charge pipe and a mild remap.
All those little bits just make a big cumulative effect to the car that make it a lot of fun.
I don't use either car on track they are just purely road cars so I like them to be a bit more supple so you can drive them down bumpy back roads and still enjoy them.
The 1M's suspension was far to hard from factory and always just felt completely out of its depth on my favourite back roads, it would get to the point where the car would just start pogoing over the bumps and if you didn't slow down it would just throw you off the road, the Schnitzer set up made a massive improvement, much better ride comfort with much better handling.
@@mrmjb9373 awesome! Sounds like you’ve addressed most of the concerns I had in my video 😎
Understand that, no plans to take the e92 on track as it does really hammer the components
Hi! If i were you i would set the dampers to 20 clicks out. For street use there is no reason to run it stiffer. With the high spring rates Öhlins have it will still be stiffer than stock but the dampers amazing damping they handle that perfectly at 20 clicks.
Yep that’s the setting I’ve been running for some time on road, fully soft on the damping (it’s still pretty firm 😅)
@@stoneautomotive ok😊. I have a M4 with Öhlins and i went down in spring rates on it. Much better, but the springs on the Öhlins kit for the M4 has been changed by Öhlins on the later kits now.
Every car you own should go on The Hunter as a matter of course !
I’ve always had them set up on a Hunter systems but NAD UK will now be my go to man 👌
Oh nice man glad she's handling well again. I think you'll only notice a real difference on track. I personally love Ohlins for a fast road occasional track setup. So compliant compared to some other track stuff.
Yeah E46 is a bit of a porker... Hides it's weight well! I guess without that much fuel and 90kg it be close to sub 1500kgs. Chuck a Deadweight Industries battery in there and knock out another 14kgs 💪
Agree it certainly needs to get on track, almost fell off the chair when I looked at track day prices at the moment - no one going abroad has certainly ramped those up! Could have done spa for the money pre-covid 😅
Yea there’s certainly some weight to be saved whilst still keeping it in road car trim - really tempted with some Apex Wheels in 18” to save some rotating mass and turn the look up 😎
The Z4 with the KW V3s are similar to a stock E46 M3 suspension setup?
Hi Gerard, I’m certain the KW kit is far more advanced than the oem dampers but what I was more pointing out was when I reviewed Matts Z4M with them fitted it didn’t handle/ feel any different to my set-up but this was road use only (I’m hoping track is where I will notice the difference 👍)
So it's been a while since this video. @stoneautomotive5950 has your perspective on the Ohlins changed since this or still the same?
I wish I could say it had changed but still feel the same about them even more so after getting it out on track at Anglesey.
It’s a lovely piece of kit but I wouldn’t say it warrants the price tag “personally” I find there very firm for road use even on the softest setting, at least for British back roads anyway.
@@stoneautomotive thanks for the quick response! I'm looking to replace the pss9s that have been on my M3 for well over 10 years now, but it's pretty hard to get a feel for what will improve the ride and if the premium is worth it. So appreciate the feedback on your experience.
Imagine how she'll feel at around 1400kg. Maybe time to focus on weight savings.. Get some carbon door inserts perhaps?
Yep I would like to get her down a few KG’s but it always comes down to the same balance of cost vs practicality - my Clio 172 Cup is proof you can go too far for road use 😅
@@stoneautomotive would you say you are pretty much there with your E46 in terms of what you wanted to achieve.
@@USMANKYOUSAFZAI nope 🙈😅 still more I have planned but nothing drastic really - no plans to super charge it all even with all the messages lol
The e46 m3 doors weigh at least 600kg easy 😆
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