Don't Wait - Get Your Bow Drawn - Shot Selection Tips | Bowhunting Whitetails w/ Bill Winke

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • The biggest buck I have ever seen from a tree stand got away because I was too careful. I was almost paralyzed by my fear of messing it up that I didn't take the killing shot when the buck first offered it. I waited for the perfect shot that never came and in the end, wound up taking a much harder shot than the slam dunk I passed up.
    That buck and that encounter taught me a lot of lessons, another one was the fact that I will never again lose sleep over a deer, no matter how big he is. It ended up being my darkest season.

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  • @trhaase0379
    @trhaase0379 Год назад +4

    Hey Bill- one of the things I admire most about you is your courage to always be real, vulnerable and honest about everything you show and talk about. Thank you for for that.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +2

      Thanks. I appreciate the comment and the support. I would much rather have told a story of how I killed that buck, but the hard lessons tend to be the most valuable. I hope you have a great day.

  • @user-vd7hj9eb9y
    @user-vd7hj9eb9y Год назад +8

    Best episode yet, Bill. Incredibly relatable for all bow hunters. Thanks for sharing.

  • @independentredneck2555
    @independentredneck2555 Год назад +2

    A smart man learns from his mistakes! A wise man learns from others mistakes! Thank you for the lessons your teaching.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Thanks. I appreciate it. I hope you have a great day.

  • @rogertyler8804
    @rogertyler8804 Год назад

    Practice practice practice. Draw early and hold. Know what shot is deadly and take it. Be confident and competent. Thanks for a great tutorial.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks Roger for the support. Have a great day.

  • @mikeginop1183
    @mikeginop1183 Год назад

    Sorry you were not able to get him Bill, but I could listen to these stories all day every day.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks Mike. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, I have plenty of stories about ones that got away. That same fall I had a giant typical ten pointer give me the slip in Louisiana. He believe he would have been the Louisiana state record, he was that big. That one wasn't my fault as much as it was just really bad luck, but it still stung. Have a great day.

  • @stevenschmidt5712
    @stevenschmidt5712 Год назад +2

    I’ve always felt that if I get drawn back undetected and did that at the right time, he’s a dead deer. Of course their have been a few poor shots over the years but on some of them I’ve been lucky and the rest, like you, they haunt me. It’s all part of the learning curve. Sitting in the tree stand I now go over shot selections, distances and visualize the deer coming in and when I would draw back. It’s worked a few times now. Plus it helps pass the time. Thanks Bill!

  • @muleskinner485
    @muleskinner485 Год назад +1

    Boy have i been there done that, great topic, great story, well done and said.............

  • @brown7002
    @brown7002 Год назад +2

    All good for me.. Thanks Bill for the story and tips. We all have that one that got away just most of us it wasn't that big.

  • @lonniechartrand
    @lonniechartrand Год назад

    You are so correct in "taking the first shot you can take".
    This past season I had a very nice 8 point CHOCOLATE racked buck at 27 yards, broadside, and at ease. So much at ease that I was video taping him for twenty minutes while deciding whether to shoot him or not as I kept thinking "What if I wait another year?".
    When I did finally decide to take the shot, a doe showed up and he decided to chase her!
    So instead of an easy 27 yard broadside shot, I ended up taking him as he RAN past my blind. BTW, this was a rifle hunt, and the shot was perfect, taking out his heart and I watched him drop at 50 yards.
    But I wanted to thank you for keeping it real, and reminding us that "things happen".

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Congrats on the buck. With bowhunting you never know when something will unravel as it did for me with the wind flickering in the wrong direction. If you have a shot you know you can make, you best be taking it right away. Have a great day.

  • @RushOutdoors
    @RushOutdoors Год назад +1

    100% a fact Bill always take your first shot been doing this 30yrs plus this season Like you I have come to the same conclusion! great video as always!

  • @robertforss8881
    @robertforss8881 Год назад +2

    Great advice Bill. I learned a long time ago to take the first good shot you have. I learned that the hard way. But those are the lessons that stay with you.

  • @redwolfmedia1276
    @redwolfmedia1276 Год назад +4

    Thanks Bill! That was really a good message to instill in all of us. I don't know about others but it seems the older I get the easier it is to pick up bad habits or fall back into them. Stay vigilant and practice. Another thing I feel many young guys make is thinking they have to draw heavy poundage. I believe this changes when a guy will draw because it's such an effort they almost dread it. This leads to hesitation or blown hunts because their having to jerk their bodies all around to get the bow drawn. Especially late season or buck fever. Enjoyed this video alot thanks for sharing!

  • @cdp50359
    @cdp50359 Год назад +2

    Absolutely great story. And a great lesson. Thanks for sharing

  • @josephlindloff6305
    @josephlindloff6305 Год назад +3

    Incredible lessons and honesty! Thank you so much, Bill.

  • @ericbowhunter
    @ericbowhunter Год назад

    Wow Bill that sure is an awesome buck! I wish you would’ve got him. Great advice man.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Thanks. Me too Eric. That buck haunted me for years. I still think about that encounter at times.

  • @thomashood3748
    @thomashood3748 11 месяцев назад

    Good story. Told very well. Very helpful.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks Thomas. Much appreciated. Have a great day.

  • @nathanlester5054
    @nathanlester5054 Год назад +1

    Thank you for such a great story and the lesson learned.

  • @woodsdog7849
    @woodsdog7849 Год назад

    Great episode. 100% agree and I know and understand that feeling. I like your perspective too about not letting any animal have that kind of power over your enjoyment of the hunt and hunting. Great insight. Appreciate that honesty.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks Woodsdog. I appreciate the support and the comment. Have a great day.

  • @shanetrudell4061
    @shanetrudell4061 Год назад

    Very good tip bill I've been working on it for years staying alert seems the second you stop they sneak in

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Agree. I keep my head on a swivel. You have to see them before they get too close or you won't be able to dictate the action, you will get stuck in the wrong position. I have had a few really good bucks get away because I wasn't alert on stand. Those lessons stick with you.

  • @daves4971
    @daves4971 Год назад

    Great words of bowhunting wisdom, Bill. This sums up hours of discussion with my bowhunting group! Thanks, Bill!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the comment Dave. I appreciate you taking the time.

  • @perryrusso3764
    @perryrusso3764 Год назад

    I always draw my bow when I see a buck coming in and not aware of my presence…like yourself Bill learned this lesson yrs ago…Good info🦌🦌🏹🏹🏹

  • @chrisjanis_kiloterra
    @chrisjanis_kiloterra Год назад

    4 great deer that’s happened to me over the years. Thanks for sharing because that’s a tough lesson in bow hunting. That’s why I always rehearse when I’m settled in tree each of the distances and angles that I have a shooting lane.

  • @patrophymanoutdoors5102
    @patrophymanoutdoors5102 Год назад

    Bill great msg. This is the exact advice I give and even the way I phrase it. Despite having much success with a bow I also crippled the biggest deer I have encountered from not following my own advice. I passed a makeable 27 yard shot and botched a awkward one when the deer got in a weird angle close to me and I lost my cool. Haunted me for a long time also.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      It is common to get too careful when the buck of a lifetime is there in bow range. We just don't want to screw it up, but that is all the more reason to handle that buck like any other. I have learned that the first good shot is never a mistake.

  • @timmytim6427
    @timmytim6427 Год назад

    Boy after watching this I think I'll be able to let some heartache from yrs past finally go. Thanks Bill

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Not all stories have a happy ending. It took me a while to get over that one.

  • @rfcorreiaiv
    @rfcorreiaiv Год назад

    Look forward to these videos so much- thank you for the lesson Bill.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks for the support Ralph. I really appreciate it. Have a great day.

  • @shaneallison3370
    @shaneallison3370 Год назад

    Made me think back on some hunts that your tips applied. WOW. Both tips certainly had dictated some deer not being taken. Take that first opportunity your comfortable with and the bow needs to be drawn to give you That chance. Thanks Bill Great story 🦌🇺🇸

  • @PAKraig
    @PAKraig Год назад

    Thanks for recounting this story for us. I always enjoy listening to you tell it how it really happened, and never have to wonder "is he exaggerating that?" Easy to hear the genuineness in your tone. Those big buck always keep us humble, and always have something to teach us 👍

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      They definitely keep us humble. As soon as you think you have it figured out, you get kicked in your backside. I guess that is the best part, you can never know enough to make it easy. Have a great day.

    • @PAKraig
      @PAKraig Год назад

      @@bill-winke like any sport, you gotta play the games! So glad and thankful you're still bringing us content, Bill.

  • @drewcollins77
    @drewcollins77 Год назад

    Really enjoyed seeing the story and maps on the old farm!!!

  • @laneparkins7281
    @laneparkins7281 Год назад

    Great tip Bill. I know this feeling all too well after this past fall the day before rifle season with my Hoyt compound. It was the perfect storm, I was on the ground and I rattled in my target buck to 25 yards. My gut told me to draw while he was behind a black oak. I thought I had made the right decision when he stopped behind it. I elected to wait because I was anticipating that “perfect moment” and that buck came walking in at 18 yards. He locked up as I was trying to draw my bow, he bugged out and bounded off out of site. I have replayed that moment over and over in my mind. It all comes down to one common denominator. Trust your gut and take the first good opportunity you have to draw and execute the shot you’ve practiced.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Dang, I hate that he got away, but the nice part is, he is probably out there for you to hunt next season. I hope so anyway. Good luck on round two. Have a great day.

    • @laneparkins7281
      @laneparkins7281 Год назад

      @@bill-winke thanks for the reply! Unfortunately, that buck was killed in rifle. I have another mature deer I’m in there after as well for fall of ‘23. He is more mature and more daylight regular and I confirmed he made it through gun with my trail cams. It’s a relatively secluded area with little to no pressure. A recent job change is allowing me to have Fridays off so I’m looking forward to hunting the bedding fringes and being smart with my wind with hopes that I load him in my truck before years end. Good luck as always Bill, I have always enjoyed your content!

  • @EthanPageHunter
    @EthanPageHunter Год назад

    I remember years ago reading an article from Randy Ulmer in Petersons on the same topic. I even recall Fred Bear making similar remarks. You will seldom get a perfect shot on a wild animal. Understand the anatomy of what you are hunting, shoot your dadgone bow enough to have faith in it and take the shot you have. Quartering too, quartering away, broadside, frontal, etc. Great video Bill!

  • @midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272

    Great tips on NOT getting too wrapped up in any deer. That’s a big problem with today’s bowhunter. The experience, stewardship, successful plan of action is the reward! The shot is only seconds in time. God bless!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Agreed, as the old saying goes, the journey truly is the destination. Once the buck is dead, the fun is over. The hunt and all the pieces that lead into it are the best part of any successful season. Good input.

  • @mztd912
    @mztd912 Год назад

    I always take that first shot opportunity. BUT the thing is....I forgot to nock an arrow. Biggest buck of my life too. 17 yds broadside, I was already at full draw, settled the pin on his armpit and squeezed the trigger and followed through. Shot sequence was perfect. But no arrow left my bow. I can't win Bill. Some bucks can't be killed. They're demons.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Maybe you are right. I once had a really good buck at full draw and the cameraman bumped my stand just as the my finger was squeezing on the trigger causing me to lose my balance at the exact moment the trigger broke. We couldn't have done that if we had counted it down and said, "OK, 1, 2, 3 GO!"

  • @HucksDad08
    @HucksDad08 Год назад

    Thank you Bill. Really enjoyed your humility. Wish I could have seen this when I lost my big one not too many years from yours. I know I learned a lot from that missed buck and I approach all my seasons differently

  • @dennismiller1602
    @dennismiller1602 Год назад

    Thanks Bill, Good story with more than one take away.

  • @wskoutdoors
    @wskoutdoors Год назад

    This is a great reminder for even a more seasoned archery hunter

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment WSK. Much appreciated. Have a great day.

  • @mitchellgenz1373
    @mitchellgenz1373 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing Bill, great tip’s as always.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks Mitchell. I really appreciate it. Have a great day.

  • @chubsteriffic
    @chubsteriffic Год назад

    These moments are so fluid…a blend of unconscious action based on experience and instinct keeps the situation from unraveling into the deer’s favor. Turkey hunting without a blind is also very similar: “How did he get away this time?” Look forward to you analysis on string jumping…which is also a huge factor as you let they arrow go: male/female…head down/head up…alert/relaxed…

  • @RS-ms1bz
    @RS-ms1bz Год назад

    Bill, I have been guilty of this more than once. However, the most dejecting incident happened two years ago. I had been on stand the evening before this hunt and was caught in the rain. I decided to sit the showers out until dark. Everything was soaked. It was well below freezing the next morning, and about fifteen minutes after shooting light, the biggest buck I have ever encountered came in from behind me. I had plenty of pictures of him and was my dream buck. I went to attach my release onto the string when the caliper wouldn't close. Apparently, there was enough moisture left inside the release that it froze. I did everything possible to get it unstuck, and by the time I did, he was forty yards past my stand and angling away...too risky of a shot at that point. All I could do was watch him slowly walk away. Lesson learned. Double and triple check all your gear before heading out to the stand. Something as simple as moisture trapped in the caliper of a release can and will cost you a trophy of a lifetime. I feel your pain.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      It really is tough when the buck of a lifetime gets away. One thing we should all do is take a single practice shot from the stand shortly after arriving (or at least a practice draw) to make sure everything is working. One of my buddies once had a really good buck get away because the nocks of his arrows were filled with dirt and when he attached the arrow to the string he didn't notice, but the arrow fell off the string when he drew the bow and bounced harmlessly off the stand. That's another one that could have been avoided with a simple practice draw. I am guilty too. Have a great day.

  • @courtofficermcilvaine7928
    @courtofficermcilvaine7928 Год назад

    Incredible story. Thanks for sharing.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      I appreciate the comment. I hope you have a great day.

  • @natbeach8141
    @natbeach8141 Год назад

    Bill, I can’t tell you how much I share your pain!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      I hate it that you can, but at least you know you are not alone. Have a great day.

  • @kevinfowler6065
    @kevinfowler6065 Год назад

    Okay that lesson is gonna stick with me more than most, thanks.

  • @gouchmcdougal7831
    @gouchmcdougal7831 Год назад

    Yea sir. Great advice. I try to teach young bow hunters the same thing. And I stress to my wife. Don’t let the shot opportunity pass. Be ready!! She killed 4 this year! I killed 1!! Great advice. I also practice holding for super long times then shooting. While practicing of course. When we are practicing I’ll ask everyone hold till their shot breaks down. Then let down. Then repeat. I’ll hold up to 2 minutes then shooting at home. Because you never know what they will put you through. Love bow hunting. Love your videos. Luke 9:62

  • @brian1110
    @brian1110 Год назад

    Excellent advice Bill. I’m the same way now with trying to be ready for the first shot I know I can make instead of waiting for a shot that may never happen. I’ve missed out on a number of opportunities and it leaves a bad taste watching that chance slip away.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Yes, a person doesn't want to be too aggressive and cross the line, but you will never shoot them if you don't get the bow back and stand at the ready. Good luck.

  • @gregbunn4642
    @gregbunn4642 Год назад +1

    I know your pain Bill. I have one that still haunts my dreams.

  • @robertfmccarthy2360
    @robertfmccarthy2360 Год назад

    Yes, where I hunt, very high pressure!
    I say to people that I hunt with, you get “One move, on a mature buck” (doe too) if you’re not standing w bow in hand. It’s over !!
    After 40yrs I seen it and done it 😢
    Durn the first & last hour on stand, bow in hand and release on. Or stay home. You’ll never see that deer from that stand again.…. Don’t educate them. I been bag by mature deer 100 yds out, sometimes they’ll come, but they’re watching (they saw you stand or grab the bow) One move!
    Good vid, keep it going.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Thanks Robert you are so right. My way to overcome that is to keep very watchful on stand. My head is like a turret, constantly scanning. I want to see the deer before it gets too close for me to get in position, and I almost always do by just staying hyper-watchful. Good comment.

  • @danhoff4401
    @danhoff4401 Год назад

    Great advice.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks Dan. Much appreciated. Have a great day.

  • @JavinMullet
    @JavinMullet Год назад

    This topic sets the great hunters apart from the good. Loved the story 👍

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      I know some guys that seem to never screw up. I am not sure how they do it, other than maybe having ice water in their veins. I sure have screwed up on a lot of big deer in my life.

  • @peanutbutterripple1083
    @peanutbutterripple1083 Год назад

    invaluable information. can’t thank you enough Bill. thank you thank you!

  • @Wabblewater22
    @Wabblewater22 Год назад

    Always easy to second guess ourselves. Had similar experience. Life goes on. Thats why we practice and hunt. Respect for the animal is what keeps me up. Have always preached. TAKE THE FIRST GOOD SHOT. Honesty goes a long ways.

  • @MrMblakec
    @MrMblakec Год назад +1

    I know what you went through. I choked on a 5½ buck in the 2021 season and didn't take the shot that presented itself. It haunted me the rest of the season and up until the 2022 season. The buck is still alive and is 6½ this past season. I passed him twice as a 4½ year old in 2020. I hope I get a shot at him next season at 7½. If I don't I won't lose any sleep over it.

  • @hughgerhart4011
    @hughgerhart4011 Год назад

    Great Advise. We learn from our mistakes

  • @bradbareis2798
    @bradbareis2798 Год назад

    Thanks for that video Bill, I had a similar experience this yr on last day of season & it's the last thing I think of at night. It's been almost two months & still bothers me.

  • @mx45774
    @mx45774 Год назад

    Good lesson, Bill.

  • @davew1919
    @davew1919 Год назад

    Awesome video and advice Bill!! Thanks

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment and the support, Dave. Have a great day.

  • @branndonbowman
    @branndonbowman Год назад

    Appreciate the knowledge

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Thanks Brandon. I appreciate the comment and the support. Have a great day.

  • @allentodd5436
    @allentodd5436 Год назад +1

    Its good to know im not the only one who makes mistakes. Ive been trying to kill a " big" mature buck behind my house in Georgia for 5 years. The afternoon of November 9th I was in the stand in a great spot about 4:00 and a "big" antlered buck comes from my left down a path that Ive never seen a buck come from. I was looking at my phone(big mistake) go it put away. I ended up drawing and stopping the buck about 30 yards out but I was shooting through a hole in some tree limbs. I hit the buck farther back than I was aiming ( assuming it nicked a branch). Buck took off and I backed out after an hour not even looking for my arrow. I searched the next day for 4 hours and followed a blood trail for a quarter mile that I couldnt pick up again. Really questioned why I was even hunting making such a bad decision. I did kill a buck later on some different land in January though not anywhere near the caliber. Thanks for being transparent Bill👍

  • @alextownsend3264
    @alextownsend3264 Год назад +2

    I took a 7.5 year old this year. 1st time I ever laid eyes on him after being on and off the farm for 4 years. He was just so unpredictable. Finally he crossed a bean Field I was watching at 7:30am behind 2 does. It was a running shot at 140 yards but the 450 bushmaster caught just enough of him to close the curtains on 4 years of a great cat and mouse game. Gotta love targeting specific deer and making strategic moves. Greatest lifestyle in the world!!!

  • @shawiniganbowhunter4625
    @shawiniganbowhunter4625 Год назад

    Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @thebigbuckslayerr579
    @thebigbuckslayerr579 Год назад

    Ya know I had the same thing happen to me . I had the biggest bodied and antlers buck I had ever seen come in chasing a doe and I had a 50 yard shot I know I could make but didnt take it bc the doe cane right to me at 20 yards I thought hes going to come into 20 and hes dead. Well a smaller buck cane in behind him and he took off after him and took the doe with him . I regret not taking that shot that buck was soo big it wouldve been my PB. Glad I watched this

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      It is a common story. I have other sad stories too, I am sure I will get around to telling them all eventually. Thanks for the support.

  • @artbrennhofer8283
    @artbrennhofer8283 Год назад

    Hi Bill, great video. I think sometimes people don't get ready because of a lack of confidence in making the shot. For me I used to be really confident in making a shot within 40yds and would be ready as soon as I thought the deer was moving towards an area I could get that shot. Seems now I don't have the confidence I used to and that makes me a little more hesitant in picking that shot. I practice from early July to the end of the hunting season 4-5 days a week. I shoot pretty good out to 60yds but still have that feeling something is going to go wrong. Maybe I need to shoot more does. Thanks again for the video. .

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Yes, the longer you live the more things you see go wrong and the more careful you get. When I was a kid I thought I was bulletproof so I acted that way. Now, I realize I am not and I tend to be more cautious about a lot of things. I do think that shooting does would be very good for you as relates to gaining confidence. I still need to do that myself. Have a great day.

  • @anthonyfiducia
    @anthonyfiducia Год назад

    Thank you for this video, I had a couple of bucks that I could not recover, this past season, It’s been very hard to get over, considering I shot the deer and they probably died. Thanks for the lesson I will take that advice.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      That is really tough to get over, but you would be surprised how tough they are. I have seen them recover from hits that I thought would kill them. Maybe take a walk this spring before green up and see if you can find them. Have a great day.

  • @marijuonko7092
    @marijuonko7092 Год назад +1

    He has the same look to his antlers as the general buck.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      He was a freak of nature. I often wonder what he would have scored had he lived to be 6 years old. Might have been 270+ He had that kind of frame.

  • @lisaannaallen6283
    @lisaannaallen6283 Год назад

    agreed ! also after the first shoot get another one in them bow or gun . bill in the 90s shot a buck breeding a doe that buck was shot about 1/3 the way up in the lungs both lobes, had infection on outside of his ribcage . he might have died but was still alive maybe a week after being shot in the lungs.

  • @ryanfarmer5155
    @ryanfarmer5155 Год назад

    Great lesson today, very true advice. I have followed your content for a long time, do you have any regrets selling your place or miss it? Thanks for always sharing great videos Bill

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Ryan, I miss all the mature bucks on that farm and I miss the house where we raised our kids (lots of memories there) but I think I actually have more fun building things than owning them. I am back to building and creating and that is fun. In that way, I don't miss the farm. It was as big as I wanted so there wasn't much left other than shooting as many big deer as possible, and eventually even that started to lose its appeal. I am enjoying the challenge of the new situation and the opportunity to try to create something special again. Have a great day.

  • @Farmersforever1993
    @Farmersforever1993 Год назад

    Definitely understand this feeling. I passed up a 4.5 year old in 2021 and i had him at 40 yards three times but with only one shot at him. I wasn’t comfortable with the shot especially with him being right there at 40 yards but it was in timber and it’s open some but enough that wasn’t comfortable for me. He turned into a giant this year but unfortunately the neighbor killed him.

    • @ddbronco1873
      @ddbronco1873 Год назад

      Nothing to feel bad about. You didn’t feel comfortable and didn’t shoot. That’s better than hitting him bad somewhere and losing him. Good job 👍

  • @jerimahjohnson8698
    @jerimahjohnson8698 Год назад

    Bill that's unreal a 230nt as a 4 year old.
    I know the area and even there that's a giant.
    I'm still reliving a shot on a potential top 10 typical I shot in Illinois in 2006.
    Rattled him into 12 yards and was at full draw and he never knew I was there.
    At the sound of the shot or on his own he stopped walking thus me hitting him too far forward.
    We never found him the arrow or anything.
    Recently got some leads on a handful of guys who may have the deer.
    Giant 200 plus 6x6 that still gives me nightmares

  • @edwardclark5211
    @edwardclark5211 10 месяцев назад

    Dream Big man 🙏

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  10 месяцев назад

      Edward, you go it. You too.

  • @josephtreadlightly5686
    @josephtreadlightly5686 Год назад

    That was absolutely riveting Bill. Until u said those words, 'the neighbor'.
    I knew it wasn't going to end well but u seem to get some nice pics of those long beams. U always say dream big. But I think that buck was Dream Beams.
    That year I lost my hunting buddy to non-Hodgkins lymphoma. He had great instincts as a hunter. That year I didn't have a target buck to chase or dream about. For my fallen friend I shot a body deer. That deer & I had some history. I watched that deer when he was a buck fawn following his mother across the road. She jumped a barbed wire fence in the ditch & he tried going between strands. He damaged his pedicle on the right that he had 2 antlers that didn't match. He was very territorial & he never left the area he was born on. I believe his mother must have died so she never got the chance to chase him off. I got the hunt on video & made a good shot & he went maybe 40 yards. This year I'm going to shoot more & hunt with a new recurve/arrow setup I'm building now. Something that I've always hunted fish with that I'm going to incorporate into deer. With the recurve that first shot snap shot takes away all the what-ifs & really makes u focus like Tom Brady throwing a laser pass over the middle. It's the only way I can run 2 cameras that I haven't been doing as a solo hunter. One thing I've said about whitetails is that u can't use the words 'never or always" about them. They just have such a survival skill that is so unique that with the best laid plans with a late evening thermal they have a 💯 to one advantage over us & that makes it challenging & fun all @ once. Thanks again for another real-life story & take care.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Thanks Joseph. I appreciate it. Great insight. You are right; neighbors are usually there for you on the big stuff like sickness, accidents, etc. but sometimes they can be hard to deal with on the little stuff like deer antlers. Have a great day.

  • @jasoncarll8073
    @jasoncarll8073 Год назад

    happened to me last fall, seem him at 50 yards, he came to 14 yards, however was a real quite evening and i couldn't draw without him hearing me so i didn't , he made the deer season and i got both of his sheds on the 3rd of January 6x6 with match spilt g2's sheds were 75 - 72 rough gross score around 165. Maybe if drawn at 50 i would of got him :)

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Dang, I hate that he got away, but on the bright side, you get to hunt him again this fall and maybe he will be even bigger. Good luck.

    • @jasoncarll8073
      @jasoncarll8073 Год назад

      @@bill-winke Thanks Bill, I have 4 years of history with him now, 2 full sets of sheds hopefully 2023 is the year!

  • @royguidry1311
    @royguidry1311 Год назад

    God, My PTSD of my own Giant buck Frig up just came back...........

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Sorry. I get it. Just telling my story put me into short-term depression.

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 Год назад

    I learned over forty years ago to take the first good clean shot any animal offered. That was before I was really into bow hunting hard. Bow hunters need to be as ready as possible every minute in the field. It takes many encounters to begin to learn about their movements and habits so as to be able to take the shot. I’ve missed opportunities many times because I hesitated just a few seconds too long. It’s really a no win win scenario so many times because the animal moved and I wasn’t drawn and ready. All a hunter can is try their best to take that first ethical shot.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Agree 100% but as you note, it sure helps to be at full draw. Have a great day.

  • @TheMidwestCam
    @TheMidwestCam Год назад

    Bill, where is that rack now ? I remember reading a article you wrote which you included this story. You mentioned it could of been a Iowa state record typical bow.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      No, I don't think it was typical enough for that. I had another buck I shot that if he had grown just a bit differently toward the end of his life could have been a world class typical. But this one had potential to be a giant non-typical with the start of the forks and all the big stickers he was growing. Usually, they get trashier as they get older, and this one being only four years old had a very bright future as a non-typical with that huge 205 inch typical frame. As far as I know the neighbor's son still owns the rack. I stopped asking about it when he told me he didn't want to sell it. I tried to forget about the deer completely because of the bad feelings I got when I remembered how I messed that up.

  • @ronniemilsap7716
    @ronniemilsap7716 Год назад

    I had a buck walking into me. I was watching him threw the binos, it was to late when I went to grab my bow and he caught me. Lesson learned I blew it lol

  • @AnthonyXiong
    @AnthonyXiong Год назад

    Dang you know what would be cool?? If you uploaded your older videos!! Like the classic hunts from early 2000s. Be cool to see a younger Bill shooting big bucks lol.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Anthony, if you look at the channel you will see a playlist called Classic Hunts. That goes back to 2008. I didn't film any hunts before that. I can do videos about bucks I shot before then, but it won't have actual footage, only photos. I will do some of that. Some of those hunts before filming were pretty cool.

    • @AnthonyXiong
      @AnthonyXiong Год назад

      @@bill-winke thanks bill! I will check that out for sure

  • @shanetrudell4061
    @shanetrudell4061 Год назад

    Had a similar situation this past season he dropped hit him high barely any blood I figured he was alright 2 weeks later found him what was left anyways coyotes cleaned him up for my european mount.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      That stinks. Did you ever figure out where you hit him? Those high hits rarely kill them.

    • @shanetrudell4061
      @shanetrudell4061 Год назад

      @@bill-winke it looked right above the lungs the rib was broken it was such a close shot (10yards) think it might have just nicked a lung hard to say though I watched your video on bending at the hip something I need to practice more.

  • @roberthancock7055
    @roberthancock7055 Год назад

    Great advise, how do I know let me just say I know what staring at the ceiling is like.

  • @bch5513
    @bch5513 Год назад

    I did the opposite.😢 given mechanicals and dumbly shot quartering too off ground on first available shot at 15 yards..
    First time ground blind with a decoy.. thought he was going downwind and he was coming up on decoy.. never shot mechs before and shoulder screws me. Walked in front of my camera right before I shot him.. biggest deer I've ever had in range. 160" 8 point. 🤮

  • @mb748
    @mb748 Год назад

    Bill Holy Smokes...145" 2yo! No way he was 3yo at that point? Not doubting, just trying to learn. Would that be an anomaly even in Iowa? That'd likely be a 4yo deer in NJ!

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      No, I am pretty decent at aging deer on the hoof from 1 1/2 through 3 1/2. After that it is tougher without some actual history with the deer. I am 100% sure he was 2 1/2 in 2002. He had all the features of a 2 1/2 year old buck and backed that up in 2003 with all the features of a 3 1/2 year old. That would be a huge anomaly even in Iowa. By far the biggest 3 1/2 year old I have ever seen. I have seen other 2 1/2 year olds that would go over 140 (just a few) but none that made that huge leap to 185 as 3 1/2 year olds.

  • @davidmosesso2573
    @davidmosesso2573 Год назад

    I can honestly say I've never passed up an opportunity to shoot at a 225" whitetail😅

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      If the chance comes remember the old quote, "He who hesitates is lost."

  • @marijuonko7092
    @marijuonko7092 Год назад

    Did anyone else think the title said 225 Inch deer give away? I about fumbled my phone into the sink trying to figure out how to enter. Lol

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      That made me laugh. If I ever start giving away 200" bucks then you know I have lost my mind! Have a great day.

  • @JayN4GO
    @JayN4GO Год назад

    Had the same thing happen to a buck I watched for years. Of course the evening I shot him I was walking in. Hit him forward and he leaped through a cedar thicket. I waited 30 minutes before going to look for the arrow. When I got to that spot he was bedded about 5 yards inside those cedars. He ran and I never saw him again. He was about 8 years old and declined to 175”. After that I never lost sleep again over a buck. It can get personal for us. Makes for misery

  • @missionman4539
    @missionman4539 Год назад

    Been there a few times :(

  • @rorynelson7548
    @rorynelson7548 Год назад

    Bill, the way that hunting sometimes goes, you very well could have taken that first shot and something would have went wrong. You'd be saying in this video, "don't get hasty, don't take a shot you're not 100% on. Wait for that perfect shot" lol

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Yes, you make a good point, but I still think passing up what was really a slam dunk because I was trying to be too careful is what really cost me that buck. Thanks for the comment. Have a great day.

  • @paulcrave3112
    @paulcrave3112 Год назад

    Mr. Bill, does Mrs. Bill still hunt? Why don’t you ever see any of her hunts?

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      It never really caught on for her. She hasn't hunted in close to 15 years.

  • @michaelgatlin5378
    @michaelgatlin5378 Год назад

    Did you get to keep the rack?

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Nope. Unfortunately. I tried to buy it even but they wanted to keep it.

  • @oldfatnugly
    @oldfatnugly Год назад

    id say ive drawn too early a few times, cant say i ever drew too late

  • @ryanketcham3383
    @ryanketcham3383 Год назад

    Great advice but…Ain’t quite the same with a recurve

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад

      Nope, you aren't gonna hold that back for a minute! Thanks for the comment.

  • @double_patchoutdoors
    @double_patchoutdoors Год назад

    I had an opportunity on a deer and rushed it the first shot. The second encounter I had with him I pulled It off. Now granted, the deer I shot Wasn’t near as big 😂 you guys can watch the whole thing on my channel. Self filmed.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      Thanks Caleb. I took a look at it. You did a really nice job. Congrats!

    • @double_patchoutdoors
      @double_patchoutdoors Год назад

      Wow. Thank you. Means so much. I love Your videos and for you to watch one of mine is very humbling.

  • @petergozinya2607
    @petergozinya2607 Год назад

    I've been deer hunting for nearly 40 years..bow hunting for 35 plus...serious trophy hunter for over 20 years... ..25 years of competitive archery-3D shooting.. and ill argue with anyone...deer don't "drop" at the shot..they "drop" hearing the arrow in flight...period..

    • @artbrennhofer8283
      @artbrennhofer8283 Год назад

      I don't want to argue with you and I agree to an extent depending on the distance the shot is. I read an article quite a few years ago from either Randy Ulmer or Chuck Adams that if a deer was within 15-20 yards they would drop from the sound of the bow and beyond that it was from the arrow approaching them. You can watch a video in slow motion and this seems to show exactly when a deer starts to drop and how close the arrow is to them. Now this was 10-15 years ago and compound bows were much slower and noisier at the shot. The newer bows are much quieter so I don't know if those distances still hold true or not.

    • @bill-winke
      @bill-winke  Год назад +1

      For me, the jury is still out on exactly what they are reacting to. We have filmed enough of them jumping the string that I really think it is the sound of the shot. I think they wouldn't be able to move that quickly if they had to hear the arrow to know something was heading their way.

    • @JavinMullet
      @JavinMullet Год назад

      @@bill-winke I think someone needs to film some deer reactions at different distances while firing field points in the opposite direction. This would surely settle the jury?

    • @bradschippers8599
      @bradschippers8599 Год назад

      I'll argue with you! I've been hunting with bow for over 30 years and gun for 35 yrs ( does not make me an expert!) and they don't hear the arrow in flight! They take a second to respond to the shot, making it appear that they are reacting to arrow in flight! They don't move to planes they don't move to humming birds they don't move to many noises! even shotguns sometimes but they can hear the arrow in flight!? Love you Peter

    • @petergozinya2607
      @petergozinya2607 Год назад

      @@JavinMullet it's the fletching that makes the noise