⁴ᴷ Exploring Abandoned NYC LIRR Rockaway Beach Branch near Forest Park, Queens
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The Rockaway Beach Branch was a rail line owned and operated by the Long Island Rail Road in Queens, New York City, United States. The line left the Main Line at Whitepot Junction in Rego Park heading south via Ozone Park and across Jamaica Bay to Hammels in the Rockaways, turning west there to a terminal at Rockaway Park. Along the way it connected with the Montauk Branch near Glendale, the Atlantic Branch near Woodhaven, and the Far Rockaway Branch at Hammels.
After a 1950 fire, the Jamaica Bay bridge was closed and the line south of Ozone Park sold to the city, which rehabilitated the portion south of Liberty Avenue and connected it to the New York City Subway system as the IND Rockaway Line. The portion north of the subway connection was closed in 1962, and three proposals exist for the reuse of the line.
Legacy and planned restoration
The city never filed to abandon the isolated section of double trackage between Elmhurst and Ozone Park, due to the intended connection to the IND Queens Boulevard Line subway. This had been proposed under the IND Second System and later by Robert Moses, with an existing provision at the 63rd Drive subway station for a future connection to Whitepot Junction. An additional plan proposed a connection to the BMT Jamaica Line around the Brooklyn Manor station. However, in October 1955 shortly after LIRR service on the Queens portion of the Far Rockaway Branch ended, it was decided to terminate subway service at Liberty Avenue, with only the connection to the Fulton Street El completed. The right-of-way was sold to the City of New York and is now in most sections administered by the New York City Department of Citywide Administrative Services ("DCAS"), except for a 7 acres (2.8 ha) section in Forest Park that has been mapped as parkland. The line remains officially out of service and is known by locals as "the forgotten spur", a name which dates back to the mid-1950s when the subway plans for the spur were dropped. Much of the original infrastructure has either been removed, damaged, rotted or undermined, though some rails, wooden ties, electrical towers and even de-electrified third rails can still be found in some sections, with much of it dating from 1908 or earlier, when the line was originally electrified. The failure to reactivate the northern portion of the line had been attributed to the potential high costs of connecting it to the Queens Boulevard Line, and capacity issues on the line which persist to day, making the Fulton line connection more feasible.
The line is a regular haunt for hikers, homeless, and such. The right-of-way can be easily be seen, especially along the abandoned elevated embankment in Woodhaven and Ozone Park. With exception to areas around the former junction with the Montauk Branch that have been redeveloped, and the Logan Bus Company lot, the line in its entirety is owned by the City of New York. The line is encroached by a number of adjacent property owners, which is an obstacle for anything to be done with the right-of-way.
There are proposals for rail service and a rail trail on this right-of-way. One proposal juxtaposes both plans.
This would have been very beneficial for the people in Ozone Park.
Grew up trekking thru all forest park. In the 80s the heavy metal devil worshipping "woodeys" used to lurk in there. Can't tell u how many times I've seen sacrificed chickens and cats with no heads
At the west end of those lines is a cool tunnel that goes under the current LIRR track. First time I walked thru it was super creepy but i was probably 12.
Reactivate the line for subway purposes
That line should be reactivated, the R.O.W. is already there ! Queens Public Transit Committee is trying to get this restored and running. Unlike the "High Line Park" this railway is NEEDED ! Join QPTC and help get this line reactivated !
I definitely agree this should be restored for H train service (H is the extension of the Rockway shuttle) and unlike the stupid ass queensway park this subway IS ACTUALLY NEEDED
@@Amiri_Francis The stations are still there. You can see it ALL on Google maps Satellite view. This means that you can see it from space ! You can easily walk up from Metropolitan ave and look at it. Following it can be done to the main line tunnel (much over-Growth and poison ivy like you have never seen) and it's journey is better started at Fleet st bridge to main line tunnel (open on both sides) you can walk through. Looks like they added extra railing. Someone musta fell.
I walked those Tracks many time when I was younger. Me and my friends get on at Atlantic Ave and walk all the way to Forest park
This will hopefully be a LIRR future project one day kinda like the lirr to grand central project
I agree. There needs to be a better service for the people who use the Rockaway line without going through Brooklyn.
Howie Friedman Subway Service would be ideal, but you would have to deinterline the Queens Blvd Line or else Service would be inadequate.
_"The line remains officially out of service and is known by locals as 'the forgotten spur',"_ never heard the term in my life. I just called it "the abandoned tracks." The walk toward Atlantic Ave is cool too! I know around that area we called "the trestle" when we'd enter through a gate near 88 Ave.
Fax lmfao
I would love to walk there but homeless people and junkies live there. Be careful guys.
I don't know how these tracks could be restored the A train uses these tracks further up after the ozone Park station so where will the LIRR go along the A stopping at all the stops or I don't know what cause they will have to share the bridge. You have any ideas?
Great point, it can just be restored up to that point too.
They could always dismantle a smal portion of the connecting tracks and reconfigure them.
David B Subway Service would mostly be the best bet.
All these videos of someone walk-in through abandoned tracks but none to show exactly where it connected with the LIRR main line
did you read the description? this is an isolated part of the tracks not controlled by the state. pretty sure it's safe to assume that entering the area controlled by the state, including where the tracks connect, would land the OP in a lot of trouble.
Behind Alderton near 67th rd
Quick question from forest park how do I get here?
Approximately here: www.google.com/maps/@40.7031417,-73.8523588,147m/data=!3m1!1e3
actionkid105 brooo I never thought you’d reply I thought this was actually at forest park took me a whole day for nothing I can finally do my smoke grenade shoot here thank you so much.
John Gregorios No problem! In forest park there’s a long trail that approximately circles the perimeter of the park. At around that point on the map I linked there’s a portion of the fence that’s cut open. Keep in mind this video was from May of last year so the opening might be not be there anymore.
The link doesn’t work
Can't believe that's in Queens. It looks like it's in the middle of upstate or something, far far far away from the city.
Yeah, it's creepy.
Same, I was surprised too!
Joseph Davis I live in Jackson Heights and wish I had someone to go with
Who's down to go lol
I say reactivate the abandoned railroad tracks New York city commuters need it so that their commute time will be 20 minutes in each directions get senator Joseph p addabbo.s office invovled
bill Slattery If you want this corridor for subway service, you would need to deinterline Queens Blvd.
That’s near where I live!
Same back from my apartment haha
Templar Knight me too I live in Glendale by cypress ave
I got a plan improve the (G) train lets sent it to Howard JFK airport or maybe even Rockway park how we can do this first extend the G train back to queens blvd and instead of it going to forest hills let’s rebuild and reactive the Rockway branch line and have it run don to ozone park meeting up with the A train and both run down to Howard JFK airport. I mean sure it will be expensive but I think we can all agree that it a FAR SMARTER plan than building a stupid ass queens way park. Seriously come on people we need transportation
What was that at the end? Was that an old baby carriage? Spooky.
Very spooky indeed
@@ActionKid hey, how do I get there?
I think NYCT owns those tracks and they go from Rockaway beach to Long Island City. It would be awesome to have a train line that runs from Rock Park to Long Island City and have the A service split between Lefferts and Far Rockway, rather than run that stupid shuttle.
Forgive me if I sound stupid but how do we get to this trail in forest park? I’m so confused
How do I get here please someone tell me
A lot of the park is not taken care of since its such a huge area and much can careless
Was this by the park that has this large jogging track? It's kinda cool though because they left behind some of the rusted towers that either once either supported wires to send information to station to station or they were radio towers. They are wilting and bending to the rust with time. Me and my dad walked down there one time. We came across this stoplight that had fallen over down the track and we could not proceed further because the leaves and branches grew too over.
Does anyone know how to enter?
Behind the forest view crescent condo on union turnpike there is an entrance.. That's the massive apartment building that you can see from Woodhaven blvd in glendale..
@@QueensNativeNYC thank you so much!
@@letstalk730 You're welcome
@@QueensNativeNYC I know this is a 3 year old comment, but if you remember, is the entrance the stone path on the right side of the building (right side of the building when you are facing towards it from where the crescent curves out)
Hey, where is the clown?
I'm glad I survived to talk about it!
Ha, the next season of Walking Dead will be filmed here.
Great clip!
I did not know that there was a Subway on Queens like there but this location that's your people do nose other they don't it is so bad that I did location is so top-secret but however sometimes that location could be safe others it's not so try to be next to you your own table or your friends and be safe
I didn't really like the new York central Railroad, because it, and the PRR we're bitter rivals. Always competing with each other
Don't like "competition"? You're in the wrong country.
I don't understand, often see abandoned rail lines with rails left in place, shouldn't the RR remove them? If not usable can't they be sold for scrap, or is that not economically feasible?
I don't know why they haven't scrapped the rails yet. It makes sense to me.
the cost of removing rails is more than the cost of steel itself. because you can't just remove them since most of it is in the park you gotta do environmental studies etc. Its costly and not worth it.
LinesEM Railfanning Agreed, but you would have to deinterline the Queens Blvd Line for this to work.
I live by the adandoned tracks
ghost.nation tv do you know how or where to access the tracks?
ghost.nation tv I'm wanna know too
baseballfan 12333 me too I live off cypress
B DLeon get into forest park and take orange route. There will be a split not to far where you take the other path.
Cool! I just posted a video I made of that branch in 2013 soon after Hurricane Sandy. So many trees on tracks. I can see from your video it's been cleared out a bit. Yeah, this definitely needs to be reactivated. As for the residents that complain about the possible noise, there is something called sound proofing. They'll come around.