House of the Dragon - Season 1 Eps 8 Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Jay and Adam react, review, riff, and rate the eighth, family bonding, episode of House of the Dragon.
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Also, Jacaerys' absolute baller move at the supper. Aegon taunts him about not showing a woman ' a good time', and he then proceeds to dance with Aegon's unhappy wife, literally giving her a good time (from the completely happy smile on her face at the simple joy of dancing). Clapbacks do not come better than that.
A freaking flex!
Had this just been about politics and charisma, and not dragons or physical fights, Jacaerys would've been ahead of the game.
It was cute. She said her husband ignores her most of time besides times when he is drunk and beds her so he gave her a bit of fun by not only giving her attention but also by treating her like a girl she still is
Honestly this is the happiest possible ending for Viserys. On his last day of life he gathered enough strength to walk on his own all the way to the Iron Throne (where thankfully his brother helped him the rest of the way), managed to get his family together for a final dinner, and miraculously managed (if only for a brief moment) to bring the family back together.
Yes he was in agonizing pain, but his last thoughts before he died were of his family gathered around him and having a genuinely happy dinner.
This episode was also slightly triggering for me because mother fought stage 3a breast cancer on and off for almost 10 years and when the radiation and chemotherapy hit her their hardest she looked as pale, thin, and drained of energy as Viserys did. And just like Viserys my mom fought longer and harder than anyone thought a human being was capable of. So while it was only for a brief moment I was so happy that Viserys actually got to see his family happy and together again.
He was a true king this episode shame it was in his final hours
My dad passed away from pneumonia last year, so... yeah, this episode hit me where it hurts too. 🥺 Plus I've always been a sucker for a good father-daughter story. ❤
Ignorance is bliss indeed
My grandfather a few months before he died and almost completely wheelchair-bound by that point flew from Hong Kong to Canada to settle some financial affairs. Cuts too close.
@C. Wright ignore the incel troll
I loved Daemon giving Aemond that look at the end of dinner like, "I decapitated a man like 3 hours ago for doing what you just did."
I hope Daemon realized he was looking at himself, lol
@@ketchup016 Aemond is an anagram of Daemon.
I think it was more that he was seeing a lot of himself.
@@viktorstagnetti7491 oh absolutely and also him recognizing how his past behaviors could've easily gotten him killed.
He was totally thinking why couldn't you have been my son and also frustrated because he was attacking family and also pretty much thinking we're gonna have to kill each other later
Jay's laugh when Daemon said "he can keep his tongue" was pure gold
I loved the maniacal laughter, too
It really was!
Awesome and dont be worried Adam they just pin the Tongue up so it dont flop about.....................jk😂😂
A very nice, clean cut. M0re difficult t00, since he sliced 0n the skull.
@@mannylugz5872 that's Valyrian steel for ya
When Viserys whispered “…my love” with his dying breath I was so sad. Even though we only saw her half of episode 1, you can tell he loved his first wife more than anything and he was finally reunited with her, as he reached up to touch her.
7 episodes later and she still has impact
I’m not so sure she’s as pleased to see him tbh
I think she may have a thing or two to say to him 😅
@@MT-UK 😂😂😂
Just by reading your comment I got shiver....
To me, the most tragic part of the dinner is that you can see a brief glimpse of how good Alicent and Rhaenyra would have been if they worked together. And both of them seem to realize it too. Unfortunately, it's ten years too late. One night of goodwill cannot mend the rift because they've already poisoned the well for the next generation and, with Viserys' death, there are no more opportunities for healing.
Yep. Too little too late. And by this point the rivalry has gone from mere words to a son literally getting maimed.
“They” didn’t poison anything. Otto poisoned his daughter who then poisoned her sons. Before Lucerys cut Aemonds eye, the well was already a cesspool.
@@TheKillaShow I have to agree
@@TheKillaShow Otto may have tried poisoning her but it was at the end of the day, herself who made the choices she did because at her core, her problem was less "rhaenyra gonna kill my kids" but also her jealousy of how Rhaenyra pretty much can get away with anything despite how obvious the mistakes she made are.
After all, there was a massive amount of time where Otto wasnt even around to influence her. Not saying that Allicent is the sole problem or that Otto isnt a fuck. The problem just has way more to it than just "Otto is a fuck"
@@khalduras784 you really have to be BLIND to not understand that Alicent is PARANOID as fuck.
After the shit show with Vaemond her paranoia is even justifyed
It’s also interesting symbolism that as viserys has his mask off, the half of his face that is rotting is also the same side of the dinner table where the Hightower’s and his sons sit. And also when Rhaenyra & Daemon come to see him & later Rhaenyra alone... They're on the side that's not rotting away. But when Alicent comes to give him milk of the poppy before he dies, she sits besides him on the side that's rotting away
I like how Vaemond was feeling bold and empowered while everyone around him were like, 'well, it was nice knowing you. You will be sorely missed.' 😁🤣🤣
When he called Rhae a wr0re, Team Green knew he is a g0ner.
Vaemond was too stupid to continue breathing Westeros air. I'm not mean or political, but even I would have known NOT to call Daemon Targaryen's stepsons 'bastards' in public, not to mention calling his wife a "whore".
Daemon saw a kid cosplaying as him and sighed. That was so funny
Paddy deserves an Emmy/BAFTA
Totally
Totally agreed!
Both give him both goddamn it
Forget the ceremony just priory overnight FedEx them to him now
Absolutely but give one to Antony Starr first Jesus
What got me was the scene of Viserys at the table looking out onto his family because one day, we will all have that time where we look out onto the world one more time and in that moment, he realized that…also, he definitely reunited with Aemma when he said “My Love” with his dying breath 😭😭
I’m not so sure she’s going to be as pleased to see him as he was to see her 😂
@@MT-UK why she loved him too
Vaserys taking that walk to the iron throne definitely got me
Oh me too. So many chills.
Daemon vs Aemond.
Chaotic neutral vs chaotic evil.
The fiercest dragon vs the largest dragon.
Anagrams in name and character.
It has started subtle, but just wait. Their showdown will be immense.
I swear, people calling Aemond "chaotic evil" are the dumbest people. I wish I could be as blissfully stupid as you.
Its incredible how attached we are to these characters after only 8 episodes
I really think the key is the wild pacing. I can't think of any other story that has multiple years pass between each episode like this and still get these deeply personal and dramatic vignettes of important moments. It really creates the illusion that you grew up with these characters and saw their entire lives play out start to finish.
No
@@zoopwhoop cry bout it kid
@@braindead5442 I fucking will and you can't stop me, wah wah wah this show is subpar
Same as Ned 😢
Aegon: “You do know how it works, right?”
Jacaerys: “Cool story bro, brb gonna go dancing with your wife.”
The way Daemon cut Vaemond was at an angle that still had Vaemond's tongue attached to his neck.. 🤣 You can see the tongue stick out from the neck like a reptile. Then he looks at Aemond.
Viserys just saw his family finally in "peace" and just gave up, it's so sad his whole story. He probably knew that dinner would be his last.
Give Paddy Casidine the Emmy for that heartbreaking performance of King Viserys, first of his name, entering the Throne room. 👏 🎭 🎉
introducing the newest product in the House of the Dragon merch line: the Vaemond Velaryon Pez Dispenser
yes Verlaryons and Driftmark are around in the time of Game of Thrones, but the strength of their house was taken down a few pegs. They were bannermen to Stannis Baratheon.
Is their decreased status due to the over throw of the Targaryen dynasty?
@@robbyten100 Partially yes. For example, a Velaryon is known to have served as Master of Ships under Aerys the Mad King.
I just read the 2nd book again because I wasn’t sure either. But as you said they’re definitely still around.
@@madelinegarber7860 Celtigars and Velaryons remained the last Valyrian houses in Westeros
This episode was epic. Paddy did an outstanding job as King of the 7 kingdoms. We'll never see his like again.
And now his watch has ended.
"Sweetie, I think we raised a bond villian" - Quote of the night
This is easily my favorite episode of the season, and the scene with Viseyrs hobbling toward the throne is one of my top (if not my favorite) scenes in all the GOT universe. Such heavy tension in the room, powerful emotion in the presence, and all around superb acting by all those involved--especially Paddy. When his crown falls and Daemon is there to place it back atop his head is when my tears always fall. This episode also solidifies that Daemon truly does care for his family. We see it in the way he cannot bear to make eye contact with his brother on his death bed (it pains him to see Viseyrs that way); we see it in the way he treated young Rhaenyra early on in the series (even making a genuine effort to comfort her at her mother's funeral); and we certainly see it here, when he beheads Vaemond for insulting both his wife and children. My heart is SO IMMENSELY HEAVY for poor Viseyrs. An exceptionally well-written character with a truly tragic tale. He wanted only peace and I was in some ways glad he got to go out the way he did (even if the peace he finally got to see would be short-lived).
It was amazing to see Dark Sister in action.
Daemon & Aemond look more like father & son than Viserys & Aemond do - LOL. During that epic stare down between them, their inner thoughts were probably "Geez, it's like I'm looking in the mirror at my younger/older self." Similar features & "don't take no shit" personalities in both the uncle & nephew. During the throne room scene, You can see how Aemond admired the way Daemon handled the disrespect that Vaemond was showing by calling out Rhaenyra & her sons and flat out insulting the King to his face. Oh yeah, he's gonna die now but that was pretty bad ass scene. Ok, well bye-bye Vaemond, it was nice knowing ya... 😵
It's getting difficult keeping all these "aemon" names straight & now we have another Aegon (the younger) to confuse with Alicent's Aegon. I need to start writing all this down, my old brain can't keep up. 😄Plus another little Viserys, but he's just a toddler & old Vis is gone now so... The scene of him fighting to walk on his own to the throne, the bedside scenes with Rhaenyra, & then his death upon seeing Aemma again were so sad. But the real heart wrenching one for me was when Daemon helped Viserys up to the throne & placed the crown back on his head... 😢
Targaryens and Valaryons have no imagination when it comes to names. Family gatherings would be confusing as hell
Viserys' empty eye socket and face rotting away on the side where the Hightowers sit at the dinner table and his good eye on the side where Rhaenyra and Daemon and their children sit. delicious symbolism. This also showed that alicent knows exactly who aegon is and what kind of person he is and knows deep down in her soul that he is unfit to rule the realm but is still willing to go to war with house targaryen to put him on the throne after she heard what she wanted to hear from viserys and it effectively proves that despite her moments of kindness and humility that she still chose power in the end over everything else including her own family’s safety and what was best for the realm…..(slight spoilers mention) and this decision unfortunately seals her fate and the tragedy that will befall her children and grandchildren.
I feel like that’s unfair, Alicent doesn’t push Aegon to be king out of her own desires for the throne but out of her concern for his safety
As soon as Viserys dies there’s going to be countless lords demanding that Aegon be made king, for the same reason ps Vaemond did what he did here, regardless of his or Alicents thoughts on it
@@jonasquinn7977 many hahaha your bullshiting in there only House Hightowers also Half of Reach Lords , House Lannisters all there Vassal Lords , in Riverlands only House Strong and House Bracken , even in Stormlands not all in the side of Greens .
meanwhile in the side of Rhaenyra and the Blacks vast Majority of Lords of Westeros are in there Side just sum of it too you 3 great houses and there Vassals Lords are entirely in the Side of Blacks - House Arryn of Vale, House Starks of North ,House of Greyjoy of Iron Islands ,and also House Tully and there Supporters are on the side of Blacks except those two houses i mention early on , everybody in Crownland are also in the Side of Blacks, in Stormland House Buckel, House Fel and House Tarth are on the side of Blacks, in the Reach equally Divided by Blacks & Greens of the Support, if you know Math The Greens do not have a Massive Support but the Blacks are.
The Greens have only 3 advantages 1) they are first make a move 2) they have nearest Allies to call up 3) they have Vhagar.
@@mikered1974 firstly you're entire argument is based on knowledge from the book which Alicent doesn't have so can't be used against her
Secondly we don't yet know why some houses support the blacks over the greens so assuming that it's just because they would have always supported Rhaenyra is disingenuous
And thirdly I wasn't even saying that the majority of houses would support Aegon, just that enough would that it would cause problems and potentially even a war even if they did nothing to support it. Which your list of houses that support the greens just proves
@@jonasquinn7977 Firstly this Show is much more Book Related as Possible so the Argument against Alicent will be Probably will be same in the Books as want happening in the Next Episodes it more likely going in that Route .
Secondly is Every House indeed have Different Reason in Supporting the Blacks The Likes of House Arryn will Always Choose to Side with Rhaenyra no matter what Scandal against her or how they hate Daemon Remember her mother is a Arryn they are Deeply Loyal to Aemma memory and that is Rhaenyra, The Starks has no issue of Rhaenyra becoming Queen of the 7 kingdoms they actually supported Rhaenys claim in the Great Council of 101 AC and to Solidified there support to the Blacks Prince Joffrey is Betrohed to the Daughter of Lord Manderly of White Harbor and the 1st Daughter of Prince Jace and Princess Baela will be Married to the eldest son of House Starks, The Greyjoy is also have no Problem to Rhaenyra becoming Queen of the 7 Kingdoms but main reason of there siding of Blacks is Deeply Hatred too Both Houses of Lannister and Hightowers , and those other Lords in Crownlands, Riverlands, Reach and Stormlands is supporting Rhaenyra because for them she is the Rightfull Monarch of the 7 Kingdoms .
And im just Pointing out also how the Majority of Lords of 7 Kingdoms do not have a problem to a female ruler those who i pointed out as Supporting the Greens are in the Minority Contradict to what Otto and Alicents saying that Majority of lords of 7 Kingdoms will support Aegon the War is Pointless anyway it just that Minority wanted to Push there Agenda when the Majority is not on there side at all.
well even the Greens have the Largest Dragon and Have Thousand Fighting men they gonna still loss anyway to the Other Side the Blacks have Numbers Both in Men , Resources and Dragons and Battle Experience just Look at the Blacks -Rouge Prince, Sea Snakes, Winter Wolves , the Valeman, The Red Kraken, Red River, Tarlys , The Muppets Tully and what to the Greens have - a Incel Kingsguard, Baratheon "im Gonna wait it out till the Last moment when everybody is dead", Jason " the stupid" Lannister, Aemond one -eyed " i have the biggest momma so i do not need a Strategy from a Incel" and Finally Aegon II " The Rapist " Targaryen.
@@mikered1974: The only reason Aegon III sits on the throne is that Aegon II spares him while Rhaenyra dies a tragic death. If Aegon III was also eaten, the Blacks would have lost.
Paddy Considine deserves an Emmy and whatever possible awards you can get for that performance.
Daemon really should train his stepsons so they can stop getting thrown around like ragdolls
They should be stronger naturally being sir harwin break bones kids. I hope show powers them up some though I know they are young. Aeomond I can see being a bad ass but aegon shouldn’t be all that tough also. Being a drunk and a rapist who doesn’t care about shit he shouldn’t be shit.
For real
Agree.
So how many times do we think Jay will cry this episode? Cuz I mean I cried 3 times at least
Last night watching it, I just kept thinking, OH NO!! He’s gonna cry so much!
Same!
This. LMAO I saw the thumbnail and thought I wonder how much Jay will cry
Same
Aemond didn't steal their dragon. He claimed a dragon. Stealing a dragon tends to result in firy death.
He stole the ability for another to claim it.
@@SolitaryLark Humans don't choose the rider. The dragon does. If Vhagar didn't think Aemond was right, Aemond would be dead. The girl looked at Vhagar as if the dragon was OWED to her. Spoiled brat. She did not deserve Vhagar. Aemond made the effort to claim Vhagar rather than expecting it to be owed. Shut up.
The actor for Aemond plays a pretty convincing dark ages monk in training in this other show where he’s kinda the moral compass to some Vikings so it’s pretty cool seeing him be straight up sinister here
Paddy truly earned his Emmy this episode 😢😢
According to an interview with the director, Alicent was just paying the servant off and giving her the same tea that the King had brought to Rhaenyra before having her "disappear" (by leaving discreetly).
Rhaenyes is by far my favorite character, She has been even before the show started, she's a no bullshit older woman and has seen quite a lot, she's kind of a less sassy queen of thorns haha
Luke laughed with his future wife at Aemond because there was a pig on the table in front of him. Oh dear, someone has not wised up. Aemond is incredible.
Aemond was triggered about a single joke that was played on him as a 10 yr old. He’s a grown man now. With a wholeass dragon. He should have just made a joke about Vhagar being a better first ride then “the pink dread” and moved on 🙄
@@Drummer4President sounds like you've never been bullied. Luke shouldn't have laughed at the guy who clearly wants to murder him.
We must also remember that Luke and Jace bullied Aemond when they were children along with Aegon. Aemond lost his eye and never got justice. I would be pissed too. The STRONG boys needs to grow up.
@@Drummer4President How did this comment get any likes, Luke deserved every bit of Aemond's toast, you take out someone's eye, you see him again after 6 years, you see how big and a skillful fighter he is, yet you laugh at him in front of him.
@@ctvuniverse4414 He took his eye after Aemond was seconds away from bashing his brother's head with a rock and commanding freaking Vhagar to eat them. Not saying that Luke is faultless. The kid definitely made the poor choice of chuckling in a very delicate situation. Just explaining that the eye thing is way less black and white as you make it sound.
Alicent is a good and decent person when she listens to her own heart. It's when her father, Cristen and Club Foot start talking to her that she allows her innate insecurities to blow up into paranoia. She's a tragic character.
Yep she's to easily swayed and manipulated if only she started to put her foot down and not allowed her father to control her when she became queen .
Viserys thought he was talking to his daughter at the end there. He was answering her question she asked him the other night. Because only he and his heir knows about the song of ice and fire.
Something I find fascinating as someone that leans more towards Alicent than most is that almost every accusation levied against Rhaenyra is 100% true but people just kinda like to pretend it isn’t
This is why I sit on the fence with my popcorn. But we should hate Otto more than Alicent. She's protecting her family, misguided as she is
And why does that concern them? Why is it a big deal if Rhaenyra hooks up to people she wants? Why is it a big deal if she lies being touched by Daemon? Why is it a big deal if the Strong boys are not a Velaryon? They are still accepted by Laenor and Corlys, and legitimized by Viserys. Laenor can't produce a child, so having no child will weaken Rhaenyra's claim. The accusation is only a big deal because the btchs in the Greens like to nitpick Rhaenyra to justify their r@pist male son to be on the throne.
So my assumption at the end is that Viserys was confused again just like he was talking to Rheneyra earlier calling her Alicent. Rheneyra was the only one he told the story of Ageon to about the Song of Ice and Fire.
So he is saying Aegon (meaning the conquerer not his son) and story about uniting the North and the South, Ice and Fire. With regard to Rheneyra ruling to do so, it is HER JOB. Which Alicent thinks hes saying your job to get Aegon her son on the throne to untie the north and south...cool story and mix up. AWESOME SHOW!
I interpreted it as Jon Snow.
Ugh. So many Aegons in this world!
26:10 Aemond didn't start that fight. The other kids attacked him 4 on 1. If anything he defended himself and was winning till they pocket sanded him and cut his eye. Also, dragons aren't hereditary, you can't really steal them. Going for the claim the night of their mom's wedding was a dick move, but just as Aemond himself said, Rhaena could have tried to claim Vhagar at any point after her mother's death and chose not to.
So powerful & moving. As soon as the throne room went silent, the doors opening & the King’s Guard knight started bellowing his titles: “King Viserys of House Targaryen. The first of his name. King of the Andals, and the Rhoynar, and the First Men. Lord of the Seven Kingdoms. Protector of the Realm” as King Viserys walked in weakened but like a boss, he showed he was a tough mofo & a legend. That should make anyone even the most stoic person a bit teary eyed. Viserys did that walk which required Herculean effort in his frail state was done purely on love & will.
Then when Viserys turned to see his brother Daemon supporting him & showing his brotherly love by helping him get up the thrones stairs, it made all viewers tear up & get goose bumps. What a scene! Intesiboe acting by Paddy & Matt. It got Adam & Jay emotional. Ramin Djawadi also did some of his best music here that just added that much more Emotional depth to the scene. Incredible work. Thrones was amazing across the board but I think Paddy & Matt upped the bar for any actors joining the world of Ice & Fire.
From my understanding during Game of Thrones because the Velaryons were loyal to the Targaryens during Robert's Rebellion, their standing was lowered by the Baratheons when they took over the Seven Kingdoms but they were allowed to keep their lands and titles, much like the Hightowers and any other major house that was loyal to the Targaryens. Robert made his brother Stannis the Master of Ships and gave him Dragonstone to be the Overlord of the Blackwater Bay region in Westeros which included Driftmark. House Velaryon aided Stannis Baratheon when he fought for his claim on the Iron Throne after Robert's death but the Velaryons suffered heavy losses in the Battle of Blackwater Bay which included the death of Monford Velaryon, who was the head of House Velaryon at the time. His son, Monterys Velaryon becomes the new head of House Velaryon but he is only a young child and Driftmark for the most part is ignored after that until Cersei Lanister promotes Monford Velaryon's bastard son Aurane Waters, a survivor of the Battle of Blackwater Bay the new Master of Ships but he betrays Cersei and takes his brand new fleet of expensive ships courtesy of Cersei Lannister to be a Pirate Lord of the Stepstones.
About what the state of the Valyerion is in the events of GoT. They are around in the books as minor players but not in the show. In the books they originally side with Stannis before going over to the Lannisters after Blackwater Bay
In the books they stayed with Stannis, at least the main forces of the house, as Jon would see their banners along Stannis’s forces when they defeated Mance Rayder’s free folk at the Wall. A bastard member of House Velaryon, Aurane Waters, does go over to the Lannisters, but then abandons them after Cersei is imprisoned by the High Sparrow.
Their h0use weakened a l0t after the civil war that they became 0nly min0r h0use. With n0 drag0ns left and n0 great leaders t0 lead them, they just withered.
"What fresh emotional hell are we about to walk into?" Yes.
Seven hells! just give the fucking Emmy best actor to Paddy! first of his god damn name!
Love that Daemon looks at Aemond like "Don't even try it kid. I know you, i WAS you, i know exactly what you're about"
*Aemond walks into a room*
Random citizen of King's Landing: "Anyone else hear chanting in Latin?"
He was a one-eyed, blonde haired, dragon ridin, cousin hater! What a sight to see.
Just needs more depth ….perception 😅
Aemond is the epitome of bad guy energy. What throws me the most is that the actor is in The Last Kingdom as Osferth “Baby Monk” and literally is the sweetest most docile character (while also being a warrior). I was blown away when I realized he was the same guy 🤯 If you guys weren’t already bogged down with too much stuff to watch, I would 100% recommend you watch The Last Kingdom….absolutely in your wheelhouse. Maybe when things slow down 😂
The sign of a decent actor?
the way olivia cooke plays alicent is so genius. like that scene with dyana and how she’s being incredibly cruel but she’s on the brink of tears the entire time. the desperation for rhaenyra to stay in kings landing. she’s given what could just be a 2 dimensional villain in a lot of people’s eyes such depth
I love your reactions so much!!! That whole scene in the throne room from start to finish is the best GOT I’ve ever seen from crying to screaming to laughing at the shock of it all, the acting is out of this world, just WOW!!!!
21:25 - shock level on full tilt. Adam losing his soul and all associated faculties. 😂
I cant believe after 8 episodes you are just realizing that dagger is the dagger. Lol
Allicent’s children in birth order are:
-Aegon
-Helaena
-Aemond (super villain who took Vhagar)
-Daeron
Rhaenyra’s children in birth order are:
-Jacaerys
-Lucerys
-Joffrey
-Aegon (with Daemon)
-Viserys (with Daemon)
Daemon’s children in birth order are:
-Baela (twin)
-Rhaena (twin)
-Aegon (with Rhaenyra)
-Viserys (with Rhaenyra)
Remember back during the hunt episode when he talked to Alicent about having a dream about his son being a great king and how he'd become obsessed with the idea it might be prophetic? Thats what Alicent thinks he's talking about at the end.
The part at dinner where Jacaerys is dancing with Helaena is a sign of what could have been if Alicent had accepted Rhaenyra's proposal earlier. Heleana would have had a decent husband by the looks of things. The strong brothers all came across well in this episode.
daemons one liner Cut Vemond so deep ! He was litterally beside himself.
get out
haha, now I can't get the idea out of my head of Sora, Donald and Goofy showing up in Westeros during the Dance of Dragons! 🤣
RUclips included this in an auto-play, and watching it a second time was just as awesome. Loved this episode and your reaction/takes, guys!! 🖤
18:57 I just came here with the sole purpose of seeing you cry with that scene. Of all the reactions I have encountered in RUclips, yours are the most... human.
House Velaryon is around in the GOT time, but they never made it to the show. They are significantly less powerful at that time, though.
For the longest time, Paddy was The Mustache Guy From Hot Fuzz. Now, he's fricking KING. What a performance, throughout the season!
Dude I’ve seen hot fuzz a billion times and just realized it today lol
Aemond didn't steal their dragon, Vhagar was Baelon's mount before Laena, Baelon is Aemond's grandfather, there is no such thing as stealing a dragon, Vhagar chose Aemond.
As someone who has read the book, I do love how the show is using the material. The deathbed scene is not in the book, and makes so much sense.
And man, just give Paddy his Emmy. What an incredible and heartbreaking performance.
Cercei was such a terribly written character in the latter seasons that everyone assumes alicent is like her... aliment is pious but she is actually devoted unlike cercei who just wanted power. Alicent wouldn't just kill some random girl. Cmon guys just pay attention somewhat
The tragedy is that the adults did heal and bury the hatchet… but they fucked up their kids already, and already caused enough hatred among their kids that now its the grudges of the new generation that’s carrying the war forward.
Also this was the last major time skip of the show. We have our final cast now.
It does seem like the kids are happy about their engagement. They all fought together against Aemond and that was probably very meaningful to all involved.
No reason not to be happy. The 4 of them are very handsome and gorgeous.
Yeah I think I saw one of the girls-to-be-wed smiling at the mention of marrying.
Veamond really should have kept his cool, there was no reason for him to lose his mind like that...
I gotta say though, it was a jaw-dropping scene.
He really lost his head there.
he really thought he was going to win the inheritance until CHADserys arrived and was like "nope"
Aemond didn't steal Vhaegar. A dragon isn't a slave or property they choose their riders. I know a lot of people feel that way, but put some respect on Aemond one eye's name!😃
At the time Game of Thrones rolls around, Monford Velaryon is Lord of Driftmark. He follows Stannis, but dies at the Blackwater. Six-year old Monterys Velaryon becomes the new Lord, the old Lords half-brother Aurane Waters bends the knee to Joffrey.
The Velaryons are still there, 170 years after the Dance of Dragons.
Who knew lord Velaryon was a South Park Canadian after all?
Also, note how Viserys (who made me cry twice this episode) had the entire side of his face on the side of the greens, be the one corrupted, whilst his good side was to the blacks
when i say i sobbed for like 2/3rds of this episode! my head still hurts. such a great episode and such a great performance from the actor who plays Viserys
"What fresh, emotional hell are we about to walk into?"
Me, having already spent the entire episode inconsolable and in tears: "Oh, my sweet summer childs." 🥺💔
In the books House Velaryon is not longer "important" per say, they still exist but don't have the same strength. They support Stannis during the War of the Five Kings, as they are vassals to whatever house sits on Dragonstone. Before Robert took the throne, the Velaryons supported the Mad King,
Not a lore expert, but from what I remember from the books, the Velaryon's where historically the master of ships in the council and subservient to Dragonstone, which belonged to the heir to the throne/Targeryen. During Robert's Rebellion, they backed the Targeryens and all the houses that did, were pushed off to the side in favor of the houses that backed Robert. In the events of GOT, not sure if the show mentions it, but they back Stannis in the War of the Five Kings as he was the lord of Dragonstone. It gets a little murky for me here, but I know that the head of Driftmark is killed in the Battle of Blackwater Bay. I think Tyrion has an epic battle in one of their main ships. And last I remember of them, is that the bastard brother called Aurane Waters, is named the new master of ships by Cersei in part to win them over to her side and because she starts having an affair with him. He's supposed to resemble a true Targeryen. She commissions him to build a fleet for the crown and intend to send them off to sack Highgarded, the Tyrell home as war between Cersei and Margery is looming, but then Cersei is imprisoned by the High Sparrow and Aurane takes the fleet dips out. It is said that he becomes a pirate with his fleet in the stepstones and I don't think he's mentioned again. That fits inline with the Valeryon blood and love of the sea.
Daemon: We doing this?
Aemond: … not yet
Daemon: That’s what I thought
Seriously, there is a reason *everyone* fears Daemon Targaryen...
5:42 there are still Velaryons in the GoT era-they are bannermen of Stannis as the Lord of Dragonstone following Robert’s Rebellion, though they supported the Mad King during the conflict (and even supported Aerys II against Rhaegar’s supposed attempts to take power prior to the Rebellion).
Actually Jace didn't take Aemonds eye, sweet Lucerys did, to defend his brother from another hit from a brick, while also having a broken nose from Aemond too. It was self defense, Rhaenyra's boys wouldn't intentionally set out to harm their uncles like that.
Alicent and Rhaenyra apologized sincerely, but the next generation has already been poisoned beyond recovery. Add to that the misunderstanding about Aegon in the last scene, and all bets are off.
"Aemond is a stone cold killer..."
Daemon: hold my beer...
There’s something about blurring the King’s face but completely keeping the scene of that dude’s head getting chopped in half that just feels so on brand for this channel lmao
A bit of a correction about all the stars, since it wasn't stated outright: at this point in history, the center of the church is in Oldtown, where house Hightower resides. Naturally, they have a lot of influence on the church and it's one of the sources of their power. So symbols of faith replacing the Targaryen heraldry is not really about the Seven, it's about Hightowers overtaking King's Landing.
There shouldn’t be anymore big time jumps now! We are officially in Dance with Dragons timeline 🐉 🔥!
I've been alive for longer than I care to admit and I have never heard a "bastards!" like that before!
Love the sephiroth/cloud references lol
I have to give it to Princess Rhaenys she has the best poker face. Based on how the episode opened I think she was always planning to back Luke's claim as her husband wanted, however she was waiting for Rhaenerya to show her hand and she just jumped on it. "Bet, I got my grand babies some security. My job is done". She would have made the best Queen (that never was).
Viserys told Alicent about a (possibly prophetic) dream of seeing his son on the throne. Her interpretation of his dying wishes should be seen in that context.
I love how we're all enthusiastic and good with 4 teenaged cousins being married off together. "Hey! That works! Cool, let's do that!" 🤣🤣🤣
We are used to it now...
Viserys entering the throne room with the mask on, looked a lil bit like Crabfeeder
Just a thought… Didn‘t Daemon bring the sword of the Crabfeeder to Viserys after he defeated him in order to put it to the Iron Throne? What if that was the sword that cut into Viserys‘ finger and he got the leprosy from that as the Crabfeeder had a similar or maybe even the same disease? Or am I messing up the timeline of events?
@@anitaklinz7914 sounds about right except I think crabfeeder had greyscale
@@anitaklinz7914 He cut his finger in the first episode.
I still think Alicent loves Rhaenyra. She just let her insecurities and petty jealousy destroy her and by proxy her children. In their youth the kids seemed to get along just fine
Rhaenyra has committed a crime. Alicent isn't mad at her for nothing. And like it or not her kids are in danger if Rhaenyra's claim is contested. Its not an insecurity, but a legitimate possibility. She not leaving it up to chance. As far as Alicent knows she killed her own husband of 10 years for advantage. Alicent was first mad at her for lying to her. She backed up Rhaenyra which she sees as getting her father ousted. Then Rhaenyra had the bastarrds, which is a high crime. She has legitimate reasons to be against Rhaenyra.
@@crescendyr8438 why would her kids be in danger if Rhaenyra's claims are contested? The king accepts her children why can't she. It seems her father poisoned the well more than anything. They both need to chill and remember they actually care about each other
@@SE-gs6gd If Rhaenyra's claim is contested then they would be trying to put Aegon on the throne because he is the rightful male heir by law. To remove that threat Aegon and Aemond both would need to be killed. Naming her heir was against the law. Kings get away with it in life, but once he dies all bets are off because his decree was illegal to begin with. Any fealty sworn to Rhaenyra was done under duress. It's not like they really had much of a choice.
Rhaenyra is a a criminal. Adultery is a crime. In her position, a high crime. Alicent is under no obligation to join Rhaenyra in her criminal fraud conspiracy. It doesn't matter what the king accepts them. He's wrong and just as guilty of a crime. Remember that he's not acknowledging them as Strongs and naming them heirs anyway. He's lying about them because even he wouldn't dare to openly defy the succession law like that. Everyone knows they are bastarrds. It's not a secret. I know it doesn't seem that way because nobody will call them out, but the law is the law.
@@crescendyr8438 someone contesting rhaenyras claim to the throne wouldn't be the fault of her. Otto created a danger from Rhae that there's no evidence of. If someone is contesting rhae as heir Ali should be the first one to squash that. I think she meant it when she said her friend would make a good queen
Edit: to me it seemed naming a male heir was more by tradition than law- i didnt see anyone say it was a law- and as Daemon said the king is the dragon and can do whatever he wants.
@@SE-gs6gd Her very acceptance of it makes it her fault as well as the kings. It's like saying if I rob a bank it's not my fault the police come after me. Otto is a learned man who knows how the world works. The threat is a legitimate possibility. Perhaps you would leave your children's fate up to chance, but Alicent is apparently just a better parent than you would be. Alicent is very much like Ned Stark, but more intelligent. Very adamant about upholding laws and tradition no matter the cost.
I thought the male thing was tradition too until Vaemon said it was against the law as well. This makes sense is a patrilineal society. The children are the bloodline of their fathers. Corlys didn't care that Laenor's first born would be named Targaryen at coronation. Everyone would know his grandson was of the Velaryon bloodline regardless. This is why Otto suggested Rhaenyra marry her brother Aegon. That would continue the Targaryen bloodline and make a Queen more palatable. The king clearly can't do whatever he wants. If he could he wouldn't be hiding behind a lie in regard to Luc and Jace. He clearly knows the limits.
I love that daemon picking up the crown was improv
What a powerful episode. This season could be one of the best ever if they stick the landing.
There is no line of succession for a dragon.. the dragon chooses the rider!
There are still Valaryon's in GoT. They sided with Stannis. They aren't a powerful house anymore, as they lost most of their wealth. Corlys is the one who made their house powerful.
Notice how Aemond didn't do anything until Luke started laughing at him when the pig was brought? Luke deserved to get some ribbing after that. Also how Aegon immediately went for the other nephew when shit popped off and before that Aemond stood up ready to defend Aegon. The brothers are definitely in-sync with oneanother
I think at the end when the King is talking to Alicent, he thinks it is Rhaenyra.
Title: how to not get ahead
Real title: how to lose half a head
King Viserys be like... "I wish I've been tested as a king.".
You've been tested alright... to the very last breath.
Daemon loved his brother more than anything, he genuinely wanted to be his Hand to help him, it broke his heart that Viserys didn't want him as his hand but this just shows Daemon was always going to be there for Viserys, Daemon wasn't bothered about the throne he just wanted his family to be strong and was willing to do anything to make it so