the way i understand it, it'll be DRS, but like double, given front wing will just change angle of attack to have less drag, along with rear wing doing the same Also i think, you're thinking of the reworked hybrid system/ERS with the whole "energy boost" thing, which will be tied to the speed car's going, as in it'll more or less shut off at ~350 kph (or give very little extra from the MGU-K)
@@GlassTecRacing I wasn’t talking about the energy deployment, but rather about the active aero which is BASICALLY drs but with the front and rear wing changing their angle with zones around the circuits and without the requirement of being in the range of a second of the car in front of you
yes but it is on the front wing as well so you will have DRS on the rear (similar to the 2021 merc W12) and DRS on the front wing across 2 panels each lap with X mode and Z mode
I think you will find that during races DRS has only ever been permitted in DRS zones and on dry tracks . During practice and qualifying it can be used any where on a dry track
Nope. When it was first introduced, it could be used anywhere. They realized pretty quick that is was unsafe, so they went ahead and implemented the zones, which is followed at all times during a race weekend.
Uh..excuse me? F1 hasn't been about pure racing ability... ever. Remember when a random guy form F2/3 got a chance to drive Hamiltons merc? Oh yeah, he finished in the top 5 I think hahaha. Most of today's drivers are a joke anyways, especially compared to those of the past. And no one, EVER, will be better than Senna. Senna was passing people in better cars, even in the damn Rain, because he was just that good. The end.
the fact that the red bull can take these sequence of corners with drs is already insane enough while other cars struggle for grip when using the drs on these corners
Can this be made ultra clear that this was *only allowed in practice and qualifying!!* Every video keeps missing that out, I guess on purpose to get the chat going.
@@tarkadal5563that's wrong. The DRS zones were introduced in 2012 only. In 2011, u can use it in the race, as long as u r within 1 sec of the guy ahead
Wouldn't using DRS on corners basically beat the point of using spoilers in the first place? Spoilers are used to increase downforce, which is good for cornering and handling, but the tradeoff is drag at high speed. The point of DRS is to reduce that drag, in return for downforce. So, I think this is stupid cuz its really counterintuitive to use DRS "anywhere"
They only opened the DRS when they had enough grip to floor it 100%. At that point you don't need more downforce making it better to shed as much drag as possible instead
We can thank oleg petrov, for bringing DRS into F1. It was after Alonso was stuck behind him for the entire final race, which gave vettel his first title.
2026 we will see the same thing. Both front and rear wing will be active. Its a matter of who will have the strongest PU its 2014 again with the basis of the dominating team have the strongest PU.
They said this was changed due to “safety” I think it really got changed because the gap Lewis, Max, Lando and the other fast drivers would just leave everyone in the dust and it wouldn’t be as exciting to watch. I truly think it’s to make it competitive and not safety lol. “Safety” as I drive a go-kart 220mph.
@@loganpinner5212 no they could only use it if they were within a second of the preceeding driver at any point of the circuit (preferably on straight road) The driver in first wouldn't get to use it
Well, if I understood it correctly, the active aero in 2026 will be similar to this
Will that be equivalent? Isn’t the new DRS just an energy boost rather than a physical flap? I guess the new AA is more of a brand new regulation
the way i understand it, it'll be DRS, but like double, given front wing will just change angle of attack to have less drag, along with rear wing doing the same
Also i think, you're thinking of the reworked hybrid system/ERS with the whole "energy boost" thing, which will be tied to the speed car's going, as in it'll more or less shut off at ~350 kph (or give very little extra from the MGU-K)
@@GlassTecRacingdrs is a flap on the wing dropping down
@@GlassTecRacingno they are still flaps, now in the front as well as the rear
@@GlassTecRacing I wasn’t talking about the energy deployment, but rather about the active aero which is BASICALLY drs but with the front and rear wing changing their angle with zones around the circuits and without the requirement of being in the range of a second of the car in front of you
Comparing Webber's onboard in Barcelona last corner to Maldonado is insane. That Williams is on a knife edge, the RBR is turning with ease.
The Bull was so planted
suzuka isn't it?
@@ikhsan-l7fI can see why you’d be confused but no, it’s Barcelona
@@Nice_Guy3012 that's not the last turn of Barcelona, that's the last corner (double chicane) in suzuka
@@ikhsan-l7fit’s Barcelona 100%
DRS in a 90 degree corner is insane yo
They are no 90 degree corners in this video
90 degree corner? Where?
@@vectro4284 spain last corner. its technically 90 degrees
@@thomasconway95 spain final turn, its a long sweep but technically its a 90 right
Vettel also used it in the 130R on Suzuka in his pole lap haha
The difference between the williams and the Red Bull through the last corner in spain is insane… the downforce on the RB8 was on another level
It's crazy. I think that might be the year the RB had a blown diffuser, but I might be wrong.
@@fcke8820they all did from late 2010-2013
@@deadmarch101 not all teams, the teams at the back of the grid weren‘t able to afford it.
@@fcke8820 exactly, thats the reason they had such an insane downforce. You can also hear the blown diffuser in the video.
Funny thing, Maldonado won that race lmao.
These cars look so much more nimble and they really show the talent of the drivers
They where like 15 seconds slower than they are these days
@ and? Faster cars doesn’t mean better racing. And it’s not 15 seconds per lap. No way. Check your numbers again.
that williams in spain last corner was on a knife edge. the steering wheel was straight almost the whole corner
Bro what his steering is all over the place, Webber and the rb are the ones who are straight
DRS should be timed. You get 200 seconds at the start of the race and you can use it whenever you want
That makes sense. That’s how Indycar does it. It’s a good concept.
@@Georgieboy1776 we already have p2p and it's called ERS, no need to make DRS same as p2p in indy
Drs should be banned,not limited
yes but it is on the front wing as well so you will have DRS on the rear (similar to the 2021 merc W12) and DRS on the front wing across 2 panels each lap with X mode and Z mode
I think you will find that during races DRS has only ever been permitted in DRS zones and on dry tracks . During practice and qualifying it can be used any where on a dry track
Nope. When it was first introduced, it could be used anywhere. They realized pretty quick that is was unsafe, so they went ahead and implemented the zones, which is followed at all times during a race weekend.
@@jackson3190 Nope. You're wrong. It was strictly allowed in the drs-zones during the race from race 1 in Australia
I've always wanted this back
When F1 was pure racing ability and speed on a knife edge
Uh..excuse me? F1 hasn't been about pure racing ability... ever. Remember when a random guy form F2/3 got a chance to drive Hamiltons merc? Oh yeah, he finished in the top 5 I think hahaha. Most of today's drivers are a joke anyways, especially compared to those of the past. And no one, EVER, will be better than Senna. Senna was passing people in better cars, even in the damn Rain, because he was just that good. The end.
the fact that the red bull can take these sequence of corners with drs is already insane enough while other cars struggle for grip when using the drs on these corners
Can this be made ultra clear that this was *only allowed in practice and qualifying!!*
Every video keeps missing that out, I guess on purpose to get the chat going.
They should've always kept this for qualifying
It’s very very dangerous.
@ that's what makes F1 good
@@TheHesK9 So, more danger is better?
@ yes. F1 cars nowadays are so easy to drive
@@TheHesK9 Sure, just hop in and go 🤷🏼♂️
As if driving those cars wasn't dangerous enough. "Let's give drivers the option to forgo most of their downforce at their own risk." Insane.
Yeah only in qualifying and practice 🙄
Did they not use DRS at all in the race?
@ Only ever in set areas, they’ve never been able to use DRS anywhere on track during race.
@@tarkadal5563that's wrong. The DRS zones were introduced in 2012 only. In 2011, u can use it in the race, as long as u r within 1 sec of the guy ahead
@ Only in set zones, within 1 second of car in front, not anywhere on track.
@@tarkadal5563 You were right, some tracks even had only one zone. Thanks for the quick history lesson
Wouldn't using DRS on corners basically beat the point of using spoilers in the first place? Spoilers are used to increase downforce, which is good for cornering and handling, but the tradeoff is drag at high speed. The point of DRS is to reduce that drag, in return for downforce. So, I think this is stupid cuz its really counterintuitive to use DRS "anywhere"
They only opened the DRS when they had enough grip to floor it 100%. At that point you don't need more downforce making it better to shed as much drag as possible instead
Bring back the good old days FA
Found out about it in the f1 2012 game and crafted it after a few spins in all sorts of corners
I mean, extra Out of the corner Speed Is EVERYTHING, So I get why they limited it to zones, but Still.. This was pretty good...
That stuff was nuts but it wasn't during the race.
That 2011 Ferrari sounds amazing!
Are the new X and Z mode going to work like this as well?
👍
no, it will be auto deploy
@ so it would always activate at the same place each lap?
@@kala457 yes, drs zone will also be adjusted, i hope more
Title correction: ,,When Red Bull were able to use DRS anywhere on the track" 😂
I think DRS can be used anywere on the track is considered to be still amazing till this day.
Taking turns at +260kph is mental 😅
I remember one qualy lap from schumi full drs
That's what I want to see. Much higher skill ceiling that way.
Should bring it back for qualifying I understand why it would be an issue in the race
The last turn at barcelona is nuts… g forces want the car to spin so bad you can just see it skidding across the track
We can thank oleg petrov, for bringing DRS into F1. It was after Alonso was stuck behind him for the entire final race, which gave vettel his first title.
Vitaly, not Oleg ;)
2026 we will see the same thing. Both front and rear wing will be active. Its a matter of who will have the strongest PU its 2014 again with the basis of the dominating team have the strongest PU.
Well, they did call it the "golden era"
can we please go back to these cars . kthnxbye
If I recalled it was only allowed during practice?
it was only in P1, P2 and P3!
Maldonado had no balls, look at the amount of drifting my dude did
i think you meant "Maldonaldo had the testicular fortitude of a god"
@RandomAccount6241 I Will remember this comment for the rest of my time on the face of this planet
Respect to Maldonado, last williams race winner 😎
BRING IT BACK
Back when they had proper engines
During qualifying
The intended way
Ladies and gentlemen that's how vettel took 15 poles out of 19 races. He could just maximise it
Back when Williams could still win races
As it should be
Good times
They said this was changed due to “safety” I think it really got changed because the gap Lewis, Max, Lando and the other fast drivers would just leave everyone in the dust and it wouldn’t be as exciting to watch. I truly think it’s to make it competitive and not safety lol. “Safety” as I drive a go-kart 220mph.
Bro Lando and max weren't even In formula one and lewis wasn't dominating at this time
@ right, but in the world we live in today it would happen.
@@loganpinner5212 they wouldn't be able to pull a gap anyway if they are first place
@ if DRS was able to be used by any one at any time. (Like it was at one point) this would happen every weekend
@@loganpinner5212 no they could only use it if they were within a second of the preceeding driver at any point of the circuit (preferably on straight road)
The driver in first wouldn't get to use it
What year is this again?
2012
Great times
Only in qualifying
There is a line they cross
only in practice and quali tho
Big balls needed
But only in qualy and FP
This is when 14yo me f-ed up and enable DRS mid cord er 😂
Back when Ferraris were actually FAST
Yeah in practice
AND kurs
That’s only practice and qualy
And all in for that .
You could use DRS anywhere???
Nahh bro they use to cook
So much better
Whats drs
wtf is DRS
Its just for quali you brainiacs
Must of be a dream to do this
😊
Before F1 became woke...
woke? Yall people only care about woke
It changed in 2012, so what has this got to do with that?
@@vectro4284 Most likely talking about the sound (and I'm surprised he's the only one talking about it in a video with the V8 engines)
@@ntinosgkougkoulias7271 But what has car sound to do with “woke”? I do not see a connection.
@@vectro4284 the whole hybrid thing. You know reduce the carbon footprint protect the environment kind of stuff