Flying American and United 737 MAX - How Airlines Are Bringing the MAX Back?
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2021
- I recently flew with United on their B737 MAX 9 and American on their B737 MAX 8, on domestic flights within the US. This video details the flying experiences of the 737 MAX since its grounding.
My United 737 MAX 9 flight was from Miami to Houston. The pilots talked about the cockpit of the 737 MAX, the MCAS and the system in general. I review the MAX passenger cabin and speak about my thoughts on flying the 737 MAX.
My American 737 MAX 8 flight was a quick one from Orlando to Miami. I met up with aviation journalist Chris Sloan in Miami. He flew the first 737 MAX flight, since its grounding in the US, on an American B737 MAX 8 from Dallas to Tulsa. He visited American Airlines Maintenance and Engineering Centre in Tulsa. Pilots of American talked about how they were trained to fly the MAX with the updated cockpit software and the MCAS system. The engineers talked about how long it takes to update each MAX and re-activate the plane from grounding.
Chris also shares his stories from behind the scenes, on how Boeing was rushed by customers to build the MAX instead of a producing clean sheet narrow body airplane.
Follow Chris on his site: theairchive.net
Oh Sam you always put a smile on my face you’re so cheery and happy! Long time follower here
The fact that the MCAS system only used one sensor is an incredibly stupid oversight. First rule of aircraft engineering is redundancy. That lesson was learned decades ago.
Unfortunately, bean counters operate under different set of rules.
That's not oversight, that's stinginess! Even too stingy to build new landing gears, so the new engine would fit.
It was done on purpose. Apparently if it had been done properly with both sensors, it would have been considered a “major system modification” and would have added expense to the extension of pilots’ type ratings from the NG to the MAX. Of course now the cost of the MAX grounding and upgrades has dwarfed anything the bean counters would have saved, but they still get their raises and bonuses and of course no consequences for their actions.
MCAS? The fact that they had to resort to software solution to compensate the aerodynamic flaw that appeared because they had to use an oversized engine that no longer fit the 60 years old airframe is the actual stupid decision.
@@Napoleonic_S That's the point. Everyone is crying how safe this plane is now, but I've my doubts.
It's too highly modified by bean counters that don't understand the dynamics of flight.
In the interview while describing the new bigger screens in the cockpit, the pilot said “ for us older people that are vis..” then cut by short laugh (probably thinking of saying visually impaired) came to realize..”wait i should not say i am visually impired or i will lose my certification” hahaha.
Old people have short vision. No one can deny it
@@kingwata1 true
Visual impaired & also overweight, what could possibly go wrong
@@Crazy--Clown nothing
I was thinking the same thing haha. I bet a superior talked to him and right after he said that he was like o shit
Nice- I am glad to learn more about the Max 8 and see that they are back in service again as well as seeing the steps they are taking and what it is like aboard the planes. Very nice video- have been enjoying your channel since I stumbled upon it recently!
It's not gonna be easy to restore the confidence of the travellers in flying this aircraft but thanks to your video, at least it gives some informations to the people that it is already safe to fly. Flydubai also started flying MAX here in Dubai. Hope to see you onboard Mr. Sam. Our family loves your videos.😍
Glad to see you again Sam ❤️
Thanks so much as I am sure like many I am fearful to step on this plane but your educational video brings back some confidence.
As always, love your videos!!!
Hi Sam you are really good in the job you are doing bringing lots of awareness especially in the background, I sincerely appreciate your good works. Thumps up 👍👍👍
Thank you. Really appreciate it.
Trust is earned, not given ....
Exactly! Many ppl dont get this and they are buying into the hype and forgetting the truth.
When i see this and the Airbus A320/321XLR/350, these are decades ahead. Boeings greed is hilarious.
AND this guy actually plays a part in the biased hype. „For a passenger i dont see any difference“. Oh really? I thought we would be flying in a spa center there. Thats not the point! Its not about how your ass feels when sitting in a plane, its about dying cause of greed, dying in a preventable case, sitting in a 40 year old plane.
@@ICEMANZIDANE yeah sure, why don’t you go back to playing with cars
hypocrite troll
@@ICEMANZIDANE imagine thinking A350 coming out in 2013 is "decades ahead"
@@gusp6612 bro, it is.
don't expect something out of a 40 year old plane
btw you have to be very dumb to comment that
Finally got to hear Chris Loh! Love reading his articles on Simple Flying!
Thanks for sacrificing your experience with the private jet for this informative video. 🥰
I came from your Biman Bangladesh video! You're great!
I really appreciate your message at the end, Sam. While it is good to see the Max flying again, I personally am still a little hesitant and will give it a year or 2 before purposefully flying one again (I know there's a chance I could fly on one due to a schedule shift or it being the only option). You presented a good video to let people make the decision that feels right to them.
This plane will likely crash within 2 years.
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BOEING ANNOUNCEMENT
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Sorry folks we had to spread covid19 and make global pandemic but we had to buy time to upgrade our shitty design that lead to few crashes.
Hopefully we did not fk this up this time. Time will show.
Safe flying.
Ps. Sorry again for the virus you have to deal now.
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Every 5th os the CEOs is a psychopath. Plenty on this subject on internet.
I am also very hesitant towards flying the max
@@okaunis probs but won't be because of the aircraft.
I appreciate very much that Sam is just giving us information and as he said we can make our own decisions on whether or not to fly on a max
Hello sam, due to covid I was able to watch your videos at home, thank you so much good videos about aeroplanes.
Thanks you once again.
I’m confident that Boeing is giving them very deep discounts.
of course, even when they had the more efficient and more capable a320 neo, they opted for 737MAX. Must be a deep reason...
@@syedhamdan1622 money 💰
Less than 40% of original price...
But capacity wise can it compete with A321?
Coz CAAC and CAAS yet to approve Max
I think that the time has come where I can't distinguish between a microsoft flight sim view outside an airplane and a real one. Hard to describe but sometimes the sim graphics seem more realistic than actual footage on this video at 8.32min.
Awesome video as always Sam, all the best.
Any flight with the 737 Max where you don't die is smooth.
50:50
Hahaha 😀👍👋😎
What a stupid comment.. wow
They are probs the most safe aircraft in the sky at the min
@@natpriest2044 Hello Mr. Calhoun
Of all the airline reports, you are the BEST.
Welcome back Sam. Good to see you back on. Good luck.
They have a long way to prove their safety and reliability.. best of luck
Exactly right
They really don't have a long way to go. For commerical aircraft you have Boeing and you have Airbus. End of story. You can pretend like there are many choices out there but the reality is that the major airlines will be using the 737 MAX as it is cost efficient and quite honestly it is safe and nice to fly (short distances). Airbus simply cannot produce. Maybe you will fly in a Comac...in 2050.
This is very interesting, I'm glad to see and hear that the flight crew is feeling comfortable with flying the 737max👍
I flew on American airlines in 2019 and found out that I was going to be flying on a 737-800, I got nervous thinking that maybe it was a max flying again, I Google searched the 737-800 while I was in the terminal waiting for the flight and I was very happy and relieved to find out that day that it wasn't a 737max.
Thank You for making this video, this will definitely help me to feel more relaxed when I do eventually have to fly on a 737max👍🙂
Sooo excited to watch this all :’)
Beautiful death 😍
Thanks for the video Sam!
I just hope that Boeing and the NTSB learned from their mistakes. What happened never should have happened.
I hope this costly lesson will shape the future design, certification, and culture.
You mean the FAA not the NTSB right ?
I'm waiting with bated breath for the next one to go down.
Poor sods on board. 😢😢😢
@@sibua69 yea i guess
@@labourlawact7826 I think Boeing has made the necessary adjustments. I think they know now that another disaster would mean the end of their company. They're on thin ice. If another disaster happens. I seriously think it would be the end of Boeing.
Happy to see this airplane back in action, especially during COVID. Living in Singapore now, I have to say I miss United domestic service. I love the United staff back in the USA! Thanks for always being so relevant and devoted to your av-geek fans, Sam! ❤️😃 Every book has its tough chapters, BUT, if Boeing did it right this time...here's to the MAX....I hope we'll see the next 737 chapter be positive for everyone.
Ok very good comment sir
Amazing video once again!!!
It’s a very good post. We can see behind the backdoor of re-certification of the 737 MAX. It’s a quite comprehensive coverage. Thank you Mr. Sam Chui 😊🙏🏼
This reminded me of the dc10 cargo door 346 deaths from the max and dc10 and both ended being successful planes
I’m sure that it will be one of the safest aircraft in the skies now. Boeing’s reputation and business is on the line. I would have no problem flying on one.
Idk, I think their image it's already damaged by all those lies. People talked bad about Airbus (scarebus) but we already know a scary plane to fly and it’s American.
thank you Sam for the video I understand everybody opinion or feelings for the max but I feel this video gave me some confident when I take my next flight trip
I just flew on a max after flying the older 737 back to back.
The max was noticeably quieter and the buffetting when flight attitude transitions seemed much more subdued and smooth.
May sound strange but the flex in the wings seemed to help tremendously.
I've got to think all the updated systems helped as well. For example the dual pronged wing tips.
Nice to see such a simple fix. Where they can just turn off mcas if it's not working properly.
This is an old comment, but the wing is the exact same with the exception of the winglet at the end. It flexes the same amount. The thickness/quietness of the skin is the same too, but I agree it just seems better all around
Hi Sam, Horray to see the 737 max in the sky again!! ❤❤❤🎉🎉
They have been in the sky for literally more than a month
Yes, it is great to see these planes get to fly again. They can prove they're safe in the sky, not on the ground.
@@SamChui OMG SAM IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN
Boeing bot
@@Butter-or2yo i can probably find 10 other people who will claim that.
I am interested if with a power failure would the plane be stable enough to fly on throttles with neutral control surfaces, albeit with difficulty, like that DC10 where a rear engine failure blew out its hydraulics? People say fighter planes are unstable but they do have zero zero ejector seats. Unless it is all so automated nowadays such that no electricity no fly. It is interesting how much redundancy there is compared to more inherently aerodynamically stable aircraft with increasing loss of pilot control if automated fly by wire systems start to fail.
Great video its nice to see the 737 MAX make a comeback.
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Hi SAM, this video is very great thank you for shared.
I am flying to Seattle next week on the MAX 9. When I booked the flight it was going to be on a 737-900ER and then they changed the plane to the 737-9 MAX and I am so so happy. I will be flying first class so even more excited. Return will be on the 737-800....bummer
Great to hear, is it Alaska or United? Hope you enjoy it!
@@SamChui United ! KIAH-KSEA
@@thebulge6295 will you fly alaska soon? 😏
@@childish8469 Maybe not, I love Alaska but my hub is United
@@thebulge6295 np, i honestly don't fly much and i haven't been on united but they seem good. and alaska is pretty good. not to mention alaska being one of the best regional airlines in the world, plus one of the safest too. that might have to make it the best regional airline in america
For an airplane that has returned to active service after 2 years of being banned from flying, it does take time for public trust in it to recover and fly safely. So, the Boeing 737 MAX still has a long way to go to get their hearts to fly with them. Time will tell about it...
Dear Sam you are really a very good human being....I love all your vlogs..thanks..
I actually flew the same flight you did on the Max last week on AA MCO to MIA! It was also my first flight since the pandemic began so it was quite interesting.
PEACE
PROSPERITY
BONANZA
HONESTY
FREE THINKING
United has some of the best pilots in the world.
As 737 Max Avionic Engineer... I just said, this is awesome aircraft. And Boeing do the great job to improve this Baby... Can't wait to see this 737Max Fly again...😊
Thank you Sam for your awesome videos. I hate flying but watching your videos keep me calm. I used to be a paratrooper in the U.S Army so I don't understand why I'm still afraid to fly. Either way I hope to one day I get to fly first class and enjoy the seats :) Thank you again for the videos and hope to keep watching more.
I’m happy she’s back! Look at the DC-10s when they began service and some are still flying plus the MD11s!
I will be flying on a 737 Max 9 in June, from PTY to PUJ and then from PTY to SJO on the connection on the flight back. I will not deny I am a little concerned, however, I really hope that all has been addressed and the flights go well.
Still alive? 😄
@@MA-nl6js oh nahh 😂 but they have the option to turn off mcas if there’s a problem like what happened
Hope they improve safety more and more, good luck.
They literally been in the skys for more then a month
@@Butter-or2yo Try going on 4 months
@@Butter-or2yo Don’t forget, the Boeing 737 MAX 8 is back
@@jjsaviationexperience7749 for now
@@kirilmihaylov1934 a loss for one is a loss for the whole aviation community. competition is worthless when innocent lives are at stake.
Just watching all your videos, then this notification appears, its a good times for me
Great vid .. I learned a lot
Great to see that max is back to service! It's a great plane that saves fuel
And lives hopefully
Yes
saves fuel -but not lives-
@@LotusFlyer The MCAS system has been changed. The plane was not grounded 1 year and 8 months to crash again
This airplane has fundamental flaw in the design. They are never going to fundamentally redesign the plane. It is so lame that they have overcome this flaw by a software and a sensor!!
Great video lol
Great Video Sam!
I just flew on the max for the first time and was pleasantly surprised. It was very smooth and comfortable.
thanks for the video Sam. I'll be looking at a 5 years track record before i got on Max. Funny how the video show that the airlines had to convince passengers that the aircraft is safe to fly rather than Boeing themselves. But saying the death of hundreds are "accidents" are just a bit light handed.
Well the general public probably doesn't spend their time keeping up with an aircraft manufacturer's tweets, so the airline is the one who ends up trying to convince passengers.
People who says they won't fly on a Boeing seems to justify with a zero airbus accident record......
No one wants to have an accident but simply saying airbus is better is not much of an argument because I can find quite a big list of airbus accidents.
In my opinion when someone has the most the lose, I'm quite confident they'll make sure it's bulletproof.
There is no guarantee that there would be a such thing as an uncrashable plane.
Good reporting here. Thanks.
Woah this is amazing :O
WOW!!!!what an AMAZING. airplaine i love seeing the cockpit and pilots!!💝💝💝
Let's not forget about 300+ people who died in 2 crashes which preventable.
No one has forgot but like any other crash in transport we must continue
@@ethansaviation2672 or we could have learned our lesson and compelled Boeing to scrap this plane, which has fundamental design flaws.
@@soravulpis96 Scrap it for what? There is no need for that. If we did that for ever time a plane crashed we wouldn't have alot of aircraft.
Life moves on
Yes we will remember them then forget and enjoy the vid
I flew in 3 of them since they came back. There’s absolutely nothing to worry about.
Thanks for the Info Sam
i’m actually a MAX fan, and totally confident in it
Me too. There’s no reason not to be confident given how many eyes have looked at it now. It’s probably the safest thing in the skies now
well after the door plug on the MAX-9 I’m not too confident flying on the max but hopefully the plane doesn’t have problems again after those 3 incidents
@Sam Chui please make a review of Air Astana a321LR from Almaty (my home) to male. I’m going soon with my parents, can’t wait. I want a heads up.
I am glad you enjoyed fly on the 737 Max. We will let this aircraft continue to see how it will continue to be safe.
Yrs, the industry has to see how the aircraft holds up.
This is good time to release this video we are clear on the rectified issues , pls add few more videos to get more confidence on this.
Hey Sam ! Regardless of how much effort you are putting in polishing the image of the 737-MAX, yet the mistakes there were committed by Boeing are quite unforgettable !
Problem is, people can't choose which plane they fly
the guy was paid by Boeing.
Yes indeed, it was also sickening how they initially blamed the pilots. Corporate greed at its best.
I just had a flight with a 737 8 Max two days ago and it was pretty smooth. The same plane I flew with is 3 months old and conducts 4 flights daily and nothing happened so far. The problem with the Max was the MCAS which was fixed and now all pilots receive special training for the system. It’s normal to feel a bit scared considering what happened and how easily Boeing let it happen, but it’s hard to believe the planes are not safe now. If something happens the odds are to happen when you fly a 737-800 too as those aircrafts are maybe 20 years old.
Airbus is better then Boeing, Boeing is trash
@@HSJDL umm STOPPP NOW BOTH ARE GOOD
@@HSJDL SO SHUSH
@@vrishankbojja3347 A380 > 747-800
@@HSJDL I think both are great they managed changing ceos for Boeing the old owner of Boeing only cared about money so there’s nothing to worry about the problem with the max is the MCAS but they have upgraded it and Boeing is now safe and great so don’t worry
Great video! United is my airline.
I flew on a max 8 last week
I was very impressed ❤️✌️
I have to say that I think it’s great that Sam isn’t trying to persuade us to fly on the MAX but rather he is sharing with us his experiences in a great way as usual. Keep up the great work!
Thanks. No travel experience is alike. Like all my reviews, not try to hard sell it but more showing of my personal travel experience.
were you paid or recruited for this ?
@@mp1p One don't ask such personal questions.
@@labourlawact7826 i think That it’s a legit question . As an audiences, it’s important to Check the neutrality of these kind of contents. Especially with the Max case
@@mp1p Just to confirm, I was not paid or recruited to make this comment. I would like to think that Sam wouldn't do such a thing!
I just recently flew on United's 737 MAX 9 and absolutely loved it.
Boeing bot
@@baymax6894 Except, I'm not? lol
Toilet is small but.
@@baymax6894 So anyone who disagrees with you is a bot? 😆 Let me guess, the earth is flat too?
@@aerofiles5044 well the last ceo put bots on the RUclips pages dealing with the max to deal with bad press... Now I'm not sure as to what logical human would fly on a Max or say it's a wonderful peice of engineering, if you are a real person and think this, I think you are a moron and here's why
1. The test engineers said it was junk and thought it was a joke
2. It killed a bunch of people with a known issue
3. They was allowed to self inspect there own planes and after further investigation it seems they didn't give care, (wire harness, debris in fuel tanks, MCAS) they just wanted $$$
4. After it did kill all them people, the second plane, the CEO at the time said no Mr.president it's safe... - buzzer-
Thanks Sam! Please be careful out there 😊
I did fly on the Max 8 via Turkish Airlines on late August, was a little nervous at the beginning but at the end of the day nothing bad to say 😉✈️
Definitely have no problem flying any of the MAX aircraft. 👌
Good Luck Sam, I will never fly on the MAX!
😂
Was about booking my flight to Turkey 🇹🇷 and once I noticed I was gonna fly on the MAX 8, uhhh…
I agree Sam the Max do have to fly to be able to prove it is safe to fly again! I flew on a Air Canada Boeing 737 max 8 in august of 2018 I found it great but after the grounding it really had me thinking like what if it had been our plane. It’s always scary when you fly because you don’t know what may happen. I love flying but I don’t think I will fly a max until it can prove itself that it’s now safe to fly
Great video
Look how quickly the flying public forgot about the earlier 737's hard-over rudder malfunction that resulted in fatal crashes in the 1990's. Sadly the Max's deadly flaws will probably disappear down the memory hole sooner than later.
United 585 USAir 427 and Eastwind 517 (though no one died)
Public forgot about the rudder issue because that issue has been fixed long ago, and after that, the 737s have not had rudder hardovers since
@@Blank00 good for you 👍 let get you will flying the ✂️ corner max plane from sack previous ceo haha 😄 and landed still alive.
hopefully, since these will be flying so it's best that this never happens again.
because most of people only care about ticket price.
even if you care about which air plane you are going to fly, the airlines can change plane 1 minutes before boarding.
Before the Max crashes the 737 had one of the best safety records in the business. Remember the 737 was certified in 1967. But in the 1990’s it was grounded because of a condition called runaway ruder caused by a servo unit manufactured by Parker Hannifin. Two crashes killed 153 people which caused the grounding of the plane just like now with the MAX. The plane that came out of that accident investigation became the safest plane until the Max accidents. I have no doubts that just like before, this new 737 will be the best and safest aircraft ever built. I flown in the 737-8 already and I am perfectly satisfied.
737 is a great plane but it is old and not efficient. The MAX is a bad modification of it. Because of new big engine the plane is not balanced and it wants to go nose down but they compensated this with software which uses the tail aileron. For normal weather situations this will work but in case of emergency when you need to pull up fast the nose of the plane it will fail.
@@markmd9 No
I flew the max in April from lax to sfo on United Economy to connect on my award ticket with Asiana in business class to Seoul Incheon.
Sam, at AA below 900 miles we have service on requests only in Premium Cabins. Not to mention that you’re comparing a MIA-IAH vs a MCO-MIA. Just to be fair AA does provide a snack as well from MIA to DFW in J.
The Max is a beautiful plane
Boeing bot
@@baymax6894 so apparently we aren't allowed to have opinions on how something LOOKS?
@@gperm3710 no, because it killed people and boeing did all of this for profit. Kinda like rewarding a pitbull after it chewed on someone. OH BEAUTIFUL DOG, BUT KILLED SOMEONE. 😒
@@baymax6894 alright, I'll admit you do have a point, but I don't think these are "Boeing bots", more of just fans of Boeing, I'm not biased towards Boeing or airbus though
@@gperm3710 look at there other youtube videos around, they don't give no rebuttal. When the plane first came out it was just full of them. You clearly aren't one. But the others was pure fake accounts
Max is slowly coming back soon in some countries. Love from Indonesia. Sam, I think this video will proof like other videos that the 737 MAX is safe to fly in the future after the Max is recertified to fly again from the FAA.
I flew a United MAX9 Houston to San Jose a couple weeks ago. Great flight and never had a minute's worry about it. Since recertification, MAX aircraft now have over 300,000 flights and over 600,000 hours with zero incidents. With all the attention, scrutiny and review it received, the MAX is probably one of the safest aircraft to fly. While there are likely some folks who are still hesitant or refuse to fly on a MAX, you wouldn't know it by the flight I was on - every seat was occupied. And apparently, airline companies are too concerned about the MAX safety with over 4,000 planes currently on order with Boeing.
Sam I'm determined never to fly the Max ever but now that I see you flying it I may. We'll see
I think there is still some way to go to get all trust and confidence back into this machine. Nice vid though.
Stepping on one is a serious gamble though, how many lives have they ruined? 500? 1000?
No chance I am flying on this
It's not about confidence in the machine but confidence in the greedy management of Boeing!
@@francescoschettino5726 You’re speaking in terms of pre-grounding. Those type of crashes with MCAS aren’t physically possible anymore. Just check what they’ve done to make sure it can’t happen again.
@@Jack3md The problem is once you have fucked people this hard, Pilots were complaining about the sketchy max failures, I think some came close to crashing and they were ignored.
It took 500+ people dead to make boeing react
I say scrap the 737max project
@@francescoschettino5726 I understand what you mean I would rather fly on a a320 any day than the max but it seems safer i probally gonna wait until it’s flown more to trust it
Do a video about royal brunei and malaysia airline and try to check old aircraft in subang (pelangi airways
I flew on an American Airlines 737 Max 8 from Miami to Houston just a couple weeks ago.
Good vid Sam.
Max beautiful aircraft✈️🤗
I will be flying on a 737-MAX8 with Air Canada on my return flight from Vancouver to Montreal in July
I flew on the AC Max from Toronto - Vancouver 2 years ago before the grounding, and loved it!
RIP.
@@davenz000 😂
The SIA b738 B73M is starting soon can u try both of it as both has different interior also can u try the silk air before it's gone
I’m going to be a flight attendant for United Airlines soon, I’m believing in hope that I step on a 737MAX8/9!
I question the FAA for certifying something that was unprepared by the manufacturers themselves.
Bribery 💸 💰 under desk.
It’s probably the safest plane out there right now!
After all thats happened to the Max, I think that if the pilots and staff are happy to fly these planes now, Then we should be ok with them. The Max is now the most checked airplane out there now. So should be the safest. Lets just hope that there are no other issues, that are not related as it could be the death of that aircraft. Another great Video Sam.
I prefer yoke than side stick
I prefer side stick than yoke
@@m.y.m401 I agree
Yeah, it's an airliner! Not a video game! But in terms of passenger comfort Airbus wins no doubt.
Got to experience on both. Both have pros and cons, I prefer side stick as well.
Unfortunately 346 souls were not able to go back to their families that is who we should be thinking of
2 crashes same plane type.
no thanks troll
@@reiner5593 DC-10 55 crashes,....
COVID-19... 2,818,509 dead, and counting... perspective
Corporate greed is this cause of this
Thank you Sam for your candid opinion.
That pilot loved the United 737 that’s just awesome
The harsh reality is, if there’s an identical flight operating and you can board the Neo or the Max.... you’re boarding the Neo.
Absolutely.
Nah
I’d actually go on and prefer the MAX
@@ktjmitchell7722 Until MCAS takes over again and kill all you fools...
Yeah! I agree.
This max is not to be trusted.