In the end Mehrunes Dagon was successful. despite failing to physically seize nirn, he did end up evoking destruction, revolution and change. The disintegration of the empire is a testament to that.
SSJ3 God Broly That doesn't change what he said. Yes, Dagon got defeated, but being a Daedric Prince he basically just got sent back to his plane of Oblivion. What he said was that Dagon, being the Prince with the sphere of change, still managed to accomplish one of his goals, which was to destabilize the current world at the time.
"THIS"^ don't forget ambition aswell, dagon may have physically failed to conquer and destroy tamriel, but spiritually he has & he is more powerfull than ever.
Then all of a sudden, the Dwemer burst out of the ground with fully automated turrets, killing every last Aldmeri soldier. They then rebuild their giant brass God to knock over the White Gold Tower, and replace it with a Dwemer pipe. Truly, the best way to end the war.
None of this would have happened if the Imperials just had curved swords like the Redguards. I mean how else was lonely Hammerfell able to defy the Thalmor?
Mark Daly That's cuz redguards are natural born badasses think about it most of their country is desert they're more at risk travelling to the next city than fighting the aldmeri dominion elves ain't got shit on dehydration
Hammerfell also sounded like a sideshow compared to Cyrodil where the Thalmor sent most of their forces. Easier to beat a piece meal army than the main army.
I always thought that the stormcloaks were right and noble but then I heard an NPC say: Talos may not be worshipped as a god, but this is his empire and it deserves to stand and I realized that if the empire won the second war talos worship would be reinstated.
yup the emperor has a shrine and necklace of talos on him and on his ship. its the empire plan to recruit new troops and win the war outright and take all their land
MinecraftZombieSlayer 69xXAssasinXx I always side with the Imperials, the Stormcloak cause in my opinion isn't right. Why would you try and plunge your homeland into a civil war when you are barely out of a war? Just felt and feels wrong and icky to me.
+iiMuffinsaur agree, specially since is Talos empire. I also decided to side with the Imperials after hearing many people saying that, before Ulfric uprising in Malkrath, many people kept Talos amulets and shrines in their houses. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, when you read Elenwen journal and she literally says the civil war is beneficial for the thalmor. Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings! Although many imperial actions aren't justified
TVegaC First of all, it's states that either side winning the war will be troublesome for the Thalmor, the whole point is to drag the war out. Secondly the Stormcloaks didn't kill any innocent people in the Markarth uprising; sources that indicate this in game are most likely bias. (If you didn't already know a lot of book information on Skyrim is biased)
iiMuffinsaur The Stormcloaks are right, it's essentially nationalism. Why should the Nords be ruled by a far away empire that A. Has little in common with Skyrim, excluding the fact that some of the gods are the same and B. Is in too much of a wretched condition to even enforce its sovereignty.Talos/Tiber Septim won the empire through blood and conquest; so there's no reason why the Stormcloaks shouldn't be able to do the same.
ScoffSlaphead72 Dragonborn is a skyrim thing, if it's taking place somewhere else such as Valenwood, i doubt we will be dragonborn, most likely a new character
I don't want to be dragonborn again, but if it takes place in that timeline, which is a highly likely possibility, then I'd like to play as the wingman of dragonborn, just like I was the wingman of Martin septim, not the center of the show, but a very interesting experience nonetheless
@@cortanaai5083 plus how many years after the skyrim events is tesvi happennig like between oblivion and skyrim there is 200 hundred years..(dragonborn would be dead or very old)
Well this was rather incompetent of the people of Tamriel to break apart like this. They don't stand a chance the next time the races of Akavir decide to launch another invasion
ROFLMAOLOLForfun No remember that during the oblivion crisis the argonians were made into super soldiers by the special hist sap they ingested and were able to defeat the forces of oblivion easily and then capture southern morrowind.
Iam super into TES lore and you're video is the first i see in a long time that is not consisting to 100% out of just reading a wiki page out loud. I really like the effort of the map you made to present the different events. Keep it up, you got yourself a subscriber!
Thanks! I indeed try to keep the wiki out of it. I try to find as much lore as possible in the games but when I cannot find anything I only use wiki's as a failsafe and if I can check if the information given is canon. I make the video's mostly because I like it to learn more about the lore myself, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong in anything. ^_^
And people say that Titus Mede was a weak and cowardly Emperor for surrendering to the Dominion. He knew that the Empire was weakened and that it was in no state to go to war, but he did it anyway. That takes strength & bravery even knowing you're in no fit state to fight a war. He could've accepted the terms of the ultimatum but he refused even knowing that the Thalmor would go to war. Anyone who still doubts if the Emperor made the worng decision to surrender to the Dominion. Think what would've happened to Tamriel as a whole if Titus hadn't surrendered and been killed by the Thalmor, the Empire would've been leaderless and would've collapsed along with every province even Skyrim, Hammerfell & High Rock.
And let's not forget what happened before Titus signed the Concordat, when he retook the Imperial City. If I remember right, Titus Mede II and his troops were getting ready to charge into battle to take back the city when suddenly Titus takes out a Daedric Artifact (the sword Goldbrand) and battles with it. Not to mention how he displayed the defeated Thalmor leader to the entire city by hanging him from the Tower or Imperial Palace or whatever. I forget the details. Titus Mede II was a secret badass. Edit: Did some research. Apparently, the Forgotten Hero was disguised as Titus Mede II for the battle to retake the Imperial City, Titus Mede II himself was leading a completely separate battle to capture the Thalmor general (Lord Naarifin) at the same time. Also, Goldbrand is not a Daedric Artifact (although it was the reward for the Daedric Quest of Boethiah in Oblivion). Also, the rumor that Titus Mede II wielded it has never been confirmed or denied by the Imperial government. Lastly, Lord Naarifin was kept alive for 33 days while hanging from the White-Gold Tower, until a winged Daedra supposedly carried him off on the 34th day.
@@αστρον They are far better, they know what to expect and even made a martyr of Titus Mead II. Not to mention even if they are splintered apart, the stormcloaks and hammerfell will come to the side of the empire.
What if they take the decision from the players and make whatever the majority did cannon for all preceding games? It would be cool to see a franchise be shaped by it's fans on such a scale imo and it would certainly go down in gaming history.
I feel like even though all of Tamerial is broken up and if there was another Akaviri invasion I feel like the Argonians will be able to hold there own because of the Hist. Also the 2nd Great War will be interesting to see how the fight goes.
Joseph Colbaugh Yea and personally I agree but I think the Dunmer and Argonians are the only races that have a chance at taking out the Dominion. But I feel like we don't have enough info to judge if Black Marsh can do such a thing since they attacked a very weakened Morrowind which is why they won and they still got pushed back and out of Morrowind by the Dunmer who were badly weakened. But I do want and think that Dunmer and Argonians could take on the Dominion
what? Dunmers are basically powerless. their population can't even grow big because of the Red Mountain. Plus the Argonians are way too back in technology to take on something like the Aldemeri. It's basically saying that Serbia could conquer USA.
kappa guy The Dunmer have already started rebuilding on Vvardenfel and there population is growing. And the Argonians aren't behind in technology they use the same stuff everyone else uses. They just use a different type of a warfare method. The Dunmer are rebuilding and their population is growing. Plus when Morrowind is under attack all the great houses come together which is a threat to the invaders. Morrowind is recovering at a good pace and with house Redoran at the top, the Dunmeri military will be a focus. In the time of Skyrim Morrowind can most likely win in a fight against High Rock, Elswyr and Valenwood if they didn't have Empire or Dominion support. Even scholars say when It comes to military Morrowind is right behind Cyrodiil in military might. Also Dunmer aren't the ones to just give up so the Dunmer aren't powerless and they have already started rebuilding on Vvardenfel and the rest of Morrowind the got sacked by Black Marsh. One more point If the Imperials have control of Riften they even say that the are afraid that Morrowind might try to do something and that's why they are glad to have Riften as a city to keep a eye on them. Again Morrowind isn't powerless and they are recovering very well. Now for Black Marsh I can't say much because they got beat back by the Dark Elves when they were at their weakest state
Exactly. I joined the Imperial Legion because I wanted to return the Empire to it's glory days in the 3rd era. I kill all Stormcloaks because I'm obligated to but I also kill all Thalmor on sight. They are the true enemy. I hope we get to take them down in TES 6
@@spudthepug Reality has even more such events as political assassination, wars, purges, repressions, rise and fall of great empires. You're just bad at history, mate. Every rpg bases off something real. Every Cyrodilic Empire is a copy of Roman Empire, lmao.
+Adolf Hitler Just like when you invaded poland (Hihi history joke) I don't think the Stormcloaks would be able to hold of the Thalmor. Remember that the Imperial legion is waaay bigger than what you see in Skyrim. Those in Skyrim are just local recruited soldiers while 90% of the Legion is stationed at the border with the dominion (Tullius tells you that somewhere in the questline I believe, correct me if I am wrong) Also the reason Hammerfell was able to repel the Dominion was because half of the Legion stayed there under "Retirement" so they had twice the strenght (If not more) of regular Hammerfell. So to conclude, no, I don't think the stormcloaks would be able to stop the Dominion if they are the leading power in Skyrim. Because the Thalmor army is 29397 times larger than the small legion stationed in Skyrim which the Stormcloaks already struggle to defeat. I hope that answers your question ^.^
"After Oblivion crisis, the whole Tamriel was in chaos, at it ended. But wait.... THERE'S MORE! How about red mountain, some Stormcloaks, some dragons and sheit?"
i was so blind to why the elves one the war, and what astonishes me even more(not pertaining to this video) is that it was never really about just bending the worship of Talos. it was also about destroying mankind FOREVER. they've already destroyed every Tower including the white-gold tower and now all they have to do is completely ban the worship of Talos and Destroy mankind.
Red J the aldmeri want revenge on men as they worship Tiber Septim who committed genocide on the summerset isles with a dwemer machine given to Tiber Septim by false gods and were forced into an empire they never wanted to enter
Red J you'll probably never see this but not every tower is destroyed; if that was the case then Mundus would've already fell apart. There's still the Snow Throat (Throat of the World) and some others
The Dominion didn't win the war. It was a stalemate. The final battle of the war was the Battle of Red Ring when the Empire retook the Imperial City and decimated the Dominion's main army in Cyrodil, preventing their retreat and killing them all, and left Lord Naraafin to hang from the White Gold Tower for 33 days.
oh they will. they r waiting out the civil war. they don't want either side to win. they want them to go as long as possible until the Empire stop sending troops and recalling wats left the legion in Skyrim. because the empire cant keep sending in soldiers to quell a rebellion. the civil war is in a stalemate and as long as the Dragonborn doesn't join a side, itll only be a matter of time until the Empire gives up and recalls wats left of their legion. only then will the dominion attack. now, if the Dragonborn joins the rebels, itll be beneficial for both sides. the empire will have to recall their soldiers from Skyrim. which means less land to protect and more soldiers in Cyrodiil to protect it from the dominion *though High Rock would have to rely on the Imperial Navy now but who cares :D* and though they will be much weaker from the war, at least they will have more soldiers on the border of the dominion and the empire. the Kingdom of Skyrim will be independent, lead by High King Ulric Stormcloak, and will provide a safe haven for all the talos worshippers who r hiding from the thalmor. not only that, but Skyrim can focus on building their own military. a actual army of soldiers instead of militia. they will also focus on building a navy to protect their only coast; the northern coast. and if the thalmor want to take Skyrim but not go to war with the empire yet, they will have to land in Skyrim by sea. and Skyrim will already heavily fortified their borders. not to mention the Dragonborn will be fighting along side the new Skyrim Military. itll be very costly to the Dominion and would most likely be a failure
GodofGames2468 It is much more beneficial if the dragon born joins the side of the imperials. The thalmor themselves state that it would be more beneficial for the stormcloaks to win as it would weaken the empire and leave skyrim in a state of disarray making it much easier to conquer in the future. After the stormcloaks have been defeated the empire can focus on destroying the thalmor with them help of the dragon born.
Use to respect Titus Mede for being a strong leader and taking back his city... that was until TES Legends came out and showed us it was Not Titus but the forgotten hero that lead the counter attack that took back the imperial city
Dark Elf The forgotten hero only took action in the final battle vs Narafiin. The rest was the real emperor. That's kinda like saying fuck Talos bc he didn't deserve his divinity, the Numidium just wrote him into the song of existence as shor.
TES in general. Have never 'completed' it (or at least see the main quest lines to the end) but it is still a game I keep coming back to - new game every time...Time to learn all about it's beautiful lore. Brilliant channel!
Comrade Mihco dumb stormcloak sympathizer even if you win it'll still be a gain for the thalmor and they could crush your pitiful independent Skyrim without the empire so I suggest stop your rebellion, surrender, and fight with the imperials against the thalmor scum which is the true enemy
If you've played the Helgen Reborn mod in Skyrim, you'll know it makes references to the Sacking of the Imperial City by the Aldmeri Dominion. One of the main characters you meet in the quest mod is a former renowned general in the Imperial Legion, who is now in hiding in Helgen and is being hunted down by the Thalmor. Long story short, during the war, he fought along side the Redguards in Hammerfell, but he was not there when the elves sacked the capital. He had family in the city, and they were subjected to their atrocities. Because he is renowned, a high ranking Thalmor leader ordered the rape of his wife, his daughter, and even his son. What's really fucked up is how later on the same Thalmor leader brags about it hysterically in front of the general while he is dying from a spell he cast upon him.
+Dragonlight Reaper I know, but it sheds a very graphic light on that moment in Tamriel history. Really got my blood boiling the first time, like "I wanna kill me some elves!".
+Galadhrim Not canon, but the atrocities committed by the elves within the Imperial City was real... Never thought too much about it until I played the mod is what I'm saying.
Nope, Cyrodiil is more militarized than it's ever been before and more than every other province, however most of the soldiers are stationed at the borders waiting for the Dominion's next invasion. The Emperor even hesitates to give General Tullius reinforcements because he doesn't want to weaken their defenses in Cyrodiil in case the Dominion attacks.
Martin Stich The way you put it, is that the Empire barely has a military left. The Argonians still couldn't invade because that area still would be hot with soldiers and it's just across from the Niben river. All they'd have to do is march a Legion or two across and destroy any Argonian invasion.
Excellent explanation of the events leading up to the White-Gold Concordat (not sure if I spelled it right). It's sad to me that Morrowind is effectively persona non grata. The Dunmer hold a special place to me and I love playing a Dunmer in the games. Maybe the Empire will get its shit together and start rebuilding it or the Dunmer will return on their own and set up a new independent nation.
The Dunmer's were always outcasts in the Empire, they worship Daedra and hate all non-Dunmer. So it's interesting to see how they cope with having to live in other races countries
Now this is some cool stuff, you deserve way more subscribers. Also, does somebody else also wants the Stormcloaks to win the war against the empire, and then have High Rock separating from the Empire too, so another empire can rise from a more powerful nation, like Hammerfell, Argonia, High Rock or Skyrim?
I don't know if that is even possible to be honest. If it was possible it would definitely be the best outcome... but it is very unlikely that would happen. The best chance the humans have against the Thalmor is to be united in the current Empire. But it is certainly interesting to think about an outcome where the provinces that left reunite in a new Empire against the Thalmor, I just don't see it happen in the near future, unfortunately
Imperial Knowledge I think that the stormcloak victory will turn out to be canon, and the empire will fall and the aldmeri dominion will take over from it. This opens up many game possibilities for Bethesda...
+Schlomo Shekelstein I believe that Skyrim will remain to the empire, and probably the Dragon Born will become the new Emperor, becouse he destroyed the dragons and reunited skyrim with the Empire.
+David Donnelly the elder scrolls wiki is shit, use the unofficial or the imperial library, the Elder scrolls wiki doe's not even have an article on Aka
yes that is a problem but Meade only conquered the human nations and the two khajjit nations, the empire in skyrim is the fourth Cyrodillic empire of man and one thing to remember is after the oblivion Crisis Redoran and Indoril, I presume as they are the only two houses that would have the political reasons and house unity to do so, blamed Hlaalu for the weakness of morrowind and lynched them out of Resdayn. so why would Redoran or Indoril, most likely Redoran as the capitol is the Redoran capitol, join the fourth empire of man. and in skyrim Imperial troops say "good thing we have Riften so we have a launching point into morrowind, just incase"
I can see some people here are real retards. And calling the Empire cowards, after something like the Battle of the Red Ring, is a new level of stupidity. Welp, Stormcloaks.
this is what those stromcloak didnt get it . the empire u see suffering during the first great war . they just preparing for the upcoming war so the empire is ready to attack once more
I never understood why people consider it an Aldimeri victory. The Aldimeri Dominion ended up paying the Empire a ton of gold, their army groups were both nearly totally destroyed (and their main general was captured), and Hammerfell defied one of the terms of the Concordat (thus succeeding from the Empire) and kept up the fight. The situation is a textbook stalemate at the Valenwood, Elsweyr, Cyrodiil border. In fact, I would say the Empire is most likely to win a second great war considering that Hammerfell is still kinda friendly with the Empire, and Skyrim stays with the Empire no matter what side of the Civil War you choose.
People shit on Skyrim, but I do love the backstory of the Great War. I mean people still debate Stormcloaks vs. Empire. That has to stand for something. Really hoping that Elder Scrolls 6 explores a Second Great War.
the internet... the only place where I can talk about my lore nerdyness of the elder scrolls... seriously I know WAY more than I should about elder scrolls lore.
Titus Mede II didn't have to sign the white gold concordat as the Aldmeri forces were weakened. There was a chance they would be defeated but they had a good chance of winning even if it was a hard fight.
If they make the Stormcloaks win and it is set at that, it would be smart to have an independent Skyrim that is an ally to the Empire. The nords would still be happy with no empire in their borders, and they could both work to end the Aldmeri Dominion. It’s a win win if they join but not under the same banner, Stormcloaks and Imperials together with no need to fight amongst themselves.
The Heir Of Rome Moral of the story you're a heretic worshiper of a dead man, yes I said right, *DEAD MAN* Tiber Septim never become a God, that's because lesser races like Breton, Nord, Redguard, Imperial, Khajiit and Argonian can't become Gods, only Mer races are Gods, so learn it once and for all: *TALOS IS NOT A GOD, ELVEN SUPREMACY IS THE ONLY TRUTH*
Marcos Ashford #SomosTodosDoAlém so riddle me this to open a portal from the oblivion do you not need a artifact or blood of a divine and if I’m not mistaken didn’t some one use the armour of Talos and BOOM portal
Marcos Ashford #SomosTodosDoAlém Alright you think that alright well at the time of the oblivion crisis you know when Talos was and always is praised a god Martin Septim sent a hero of course if you know who the hero is he went to Sancra Tor and got the Armour of Talos and brought it back and he opened a portal which Martin read in a book that the only way to open such a portal is with again a artifact or blood of a divine and well at the time people believe tales is a divine and guess what he is a divine
The Heir Of Rome I guess not, the Armour of Talos is just a armour like anyother, the armour have the blood of Talos, Talos was Dragonborn, Dragonborn have the blood of Akatosh and Akatosh is a divine, Martin Septim realy used the blood of a divine, but that divine was Akatosh not Talos.
Hehe perfect music choice. I put all of the Skyrim and Morrowind music files I could into an Oblivion play through and this is just great. Also good delivery on the storytelling aspect, although voice quality isn’t great. Sounds like that’s been fixed going through popular videos rn
Either side could potentially have used these forbidden strategies against the other: Feint attacks while retreating, forcing the other side to level up too quickly on animal spawns, bandits and necromancers, making them forever unable to get the maximum amount of attribute points.
Send spies into their camp to engage them in conversation, increasing their Charisma too much and draining their fighting ability. Retreat into canyons and other narrow passages: place low ceilings, whereupon the enemy must crouch, raising its Sneak levels.
In similar chokepoints, place locked doors, ensuring a hapless foe that only knows Security techniques. Leveled too high and completely inept at battle, the effete rabble will quickly fall prey to Billies, Ogres and giant bears.
Talos was the same if not worse than this, he forced the Summerset Isles into the empire with a magical robot from the Dwemer because he was too bitchass to take them in a fight. I don't even blame them for banning his worship. He wasn't so holy. I really hope the next Elder Scrolls are in Summerset Isles so we get a inside look at them, because right now they are just a villain with no depth.
I agree with some of what you said, but not all. Tiber Septim did viciously conquer most of Tamriel (some provinces wanted to join the Empire and they only loosely took hold of Black Marsh (as shown by how easily they left)), but he was a tactical genius about it. Taking your best shot at victory isn't really being a bitchass. While I do sympathize with pre-Thalmor Altmer for being forced into the Empire, their retaliation was an overreaction. Thoughts of their racial supremacy bolstered their already inflated egos and imposed thoughts of grandeur. While his methods were more than a little questionable, the Empire did bring upon an almost unheard of time of peace, prosperity, and and continental trade. The new Dominion mainly wishes to take Tamriel to prove how large their cumulative cocks are. This wouldn't be a problem if they just took a more passive state like the Argonians. They didn't attempt "revenge" or anything of the sort towards the Empire. Their only hostile actions were towards the Dunmer, who have mistreated the Argonians almost since the dawn of their race.
And then the dragons showed up, eating man and mer alike, torching Skyrim, harassing the Dragonborn by killing their 15th f*cking horse when they were over-encumbered, and generally being douchebags until Alduin's defeat, after which, the skies over the Summerset Isles were filled with dragons, routinely stopping by to take a dump on the capitol.
I really want to see a story where skrim breaks off then comes into an alliance with hammerfell. Being cut off high rock leaves. The Dominion invades and takes cyrodil. Then a alliance of Skyrim hammerfell and high rock invade cyrodiil with the dragonborn at the lead with the upper hand with an army of dragons with the objective to reclaim it. Valenwood leaves the Dominion due to high elven purges on the natives. The imperial city is reclaimed with the dragonborn crowned emperor. Elsywer is "persuaded" to join the new empire. Valenwood is also excepted because of their "neutrality" in the liberation of cyrodiil. A full on invasion on summerset. A battle with all races save the argonians and the dunmer. Dragons sweeping through aldmeri forces clashing of blades a naval battle along the entire cost and magic flying from one side to another. Thanks to the dragons and an anti thalmor rebellion leads to the fall of the aldmeri Dominion. a new empire is founded with Morrowind and argonia maybe joining later on.
He is only the last dragonborn because there were several possibilties on the fate of the world including Alduin winning in one meaning they could not past this point to see if there will be anymore dragonborn because it was uncertain if the world would have survived. Now that Aluduin is defeated they will be able to see the future again
How about the dragonborn uniting the empire and stormcloaks and wake their dumb assrs to face the real enemy, much easier and better than an indepenfent Skyrim imo, then he could partially teunite with the redgaurds or alliance with them, then declare full scale war to the damn elves for all it's worth it
Looking back at this now that TES6 has been teased, it makes sense that the events of Skyrim have a direct sequel at Hammerfell. We’ll see it in the 2020’s.
Because they have no power to do anything in the 4th era. Cyrodiil itself was overrun by bandit groups and Mede has only partially restored it by the time the war breaks out. I recommend the novels, The Infernal City and Lord of Souls.
Isn't the Dragonborn in Skyrim actually not the legitimate ruler of the Empire now? Wasn't Tiber Septim not a dragonborn aswell? Put the fking demigod of a mortal on that throne and end this war, he could easily be hailed as the reincarnation of Tiber Septim.
Great video! I'm actually glad this was made before Legends, cause it just makes it so underwhelming? Like, you have a Hero marching out at literally every major conflict now, and also everything is a Daedric plot?
this reaffirms my stormcloak position, with the main Aldemeri army "destroyed" and the second army on the retreat in Hammerfell, the emperor should have easily been able to occupy northern Anequina at the very least, considering they had 3 yes damaged but battle hardened armies against either no Thalmor armies or an occupation force which would be thin and inexperienced, Titus Mede took the cowards way out.
I never realized how the civil war in Skyrim really played a huge part, as if the cloaks win it cuts the remaining empire in half and 100% sure the Bretons would leave the empire leaving only cyrodil. that would be disastrous for the empire. The obvious choice to leave the realm of men connected as one nation as the elves are. that's the only way to keep a balance
this video opened my eyes to something, the civil war in Skyrim, not the Empire's fault, they did sign the White-Gold Concordat, which the Thalmor purposely targeted to piss of the people of Skyrim, and as some points of lore tell us, the Thalmor don't want the civil war to end, because it means both the empire and Skyrim, which is arguably one of the strongest provinces, are both weakened, and if the civil war wasn't altered by the dragonborn, the Thalmor may have been able to just sorta walk through the remaining empire and Skyrim, with some defense of course, say the warriors of hammerfell, they wouldn't just roll over and be taken over, but the point was to make it easier for them to invade, so, headcanon just made up by me
Not sure why there are so many comments asking why the Bretons of High Rock didn't fight, is that mentioned somewhere that I missed? According to the map they remained part of the Empire, so it's safe to assume their citizenry would be allowed to volunteer for or be drafted into the Imperial Legion forces...
I would like to know your source for the statement that Thalmor agents installed the An Xileel in Black Marsh. Mede simply lost his nerve, and he's wasting resources trying to prop up the empire's rotting structures rather than accept that the old empire is dead.
So pretty much: Summer Set Isles, Valenwood, Elswyr VS Cyrodil, Hammerfell, Daggerfall, Skyrim High and wood elves vs imperials, red guards, nords, bretons?
I find the Argonians stand neat. They left the Empire and decided to invade Morrowind (Which I don't blame them) and if all failed they can easily return to Black Marsh and defend their land if they have to because it is pretty hard for foreigners to Black Marsh to survive aswell as fight the Argonians.
I read the thalmor dossier that saying ulfric is thalmor's secret weapon .I find it interesting if I can backfire Thalmor by using their own so-called secret weapon, so I join Stormcloak and destroy Empire. Plus ,I just want to cause some chaotic environment in the game .(Hopefully I can destroyed Thalmor and betrayed Stormcloak after a destruction of the Empire in Skyrim. Too bad I can't do them in the game.)
Just as you shouldn't invade Russia in winter, you shouldn't invade Hammerfell in the summer.
Can't imagine wearing full metal armor in the middle of a literal desert.
You shouldnt invade hammerfell without a mechanic titan
@@Joinord1e indeed, the thalmor wont use metal armors, they uses cristal armors
@@Joinord1e crusaders managed for a while
The worst part is neither Hitler nor Napoleon invade Russia in the winter
You know the lore is good when you feel like you're watching a documentary about real history
I was just thinking this the other day lol
In the end Mehrunes Dagon was successful. despite failing to physically seize nirn, he did end up evoking destruction, revolution and change. The disintegration of the empire is a testament to that.
SSJ3 God Broly That doesn't change what he said. Yes, Dagon got defeated, but being a Daedric Prince he basically just got sent back to his plane of Oblivion. What he said was that Dagon, being the Prince with the sphere of change, still managed to accomplish one of his goals, which was to destabilize the current world at the time.
Not to mention the Stormcloak rebellion. Perhaps he was purposefully dividing the Empire between Regionalist areas and the Thalmor.
Genius
"THIS"^ don't forget ambition aswell, dagon may have physically failed to conquer and destroy tamriel, but spiritually he has & he is more powerfull than ever.
Then all of a sudden, the Dwemer burst out of the ground with fully automated turrets, killing every last Aldmeri soldier. They then rebuild their giant brass God to knock over the White Gold Tower, and replace it with a Dwemer pipe. Truly, the best way to end the war.
Joseph Colbaugh Sadly, Dwemer are all gone since First Era.
That's what they want you to believe. #Dwemerconspiracy.
Sionistr
Replace the White-Gold Tower... with a pipe? That's not? Not a new Dwemer style building, just a... pipe?
Brother Judas
just a big fuckin pipe, doesn't even connect anywhere
They're dead. D E A D. The Gods grew tired of their atheistic and slaveristic shit and just sent their elven asses to Oblivion.
None of this would have happened if the Imperials just had curved swords like the Redguards. I mean how else was lonely Hammerfell able to defy the Thalmor?
Curved swords. Curved. Swords.
Mark Daly That's cuz redguards are natural born badasses think about it most of their country is desert they're more at risk travelling to the next city than fighting the aldmeri dominion elves ain't got shit on dehydration
BRCR It's a good thing the general that was posted in Hammerfell let those Redgaurds stay, or the entire provenance would be under dominion control.
Hammerfell also sounded like a sideshow compared to Cyrodil where the Thalmor sent most of their forces. Easier to beat a piece meal army than the main army.
@@random_me666 you had every reason in the world to not do that, but you did
I always thought that the stormcloaks were right and noble but then I heard an NPC say: Talos may not be worshipped as a god, but this is his empire and it deserves to stand and I realized that if the empire won the second war talos worship would be reinstated.
yup the emperor has a shrine and necklace of talos on him and on his ship. its the empire plan to recruit new troops and win the war outright and take all their land
MinecraftZombieSlayer 69xXAssasinXx I always side with the Imperials, the Stormcloak cause in my opinion isn't right. Why would you try and plunge your homeland into a civil war when you are barely out of a war? Just felt and feels wrong and icky to me.
+iiMuffinsaur
agree, specially since is Talos empire. I also decided to side with the Imperials after hearing many people saying that, before Ulfric uprising in Malkrath, many people kept Talos amulets and shrines in their houses. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, when you read Elenwen journal and she literally says the civil war is beneficial for the thalmor. Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings! Although many imperial actions aren't justified
TVegaC First of all, it's states that either side winning the war will be troublesome for the Thalmor, the whole point is to drag the war out. Secondly the Stormcloaks didn't kill any innocent people in the Markarth uprising; sources that indicate this in game are most likely bias. (If you didn't already know a lot of book information on Skyrim is biased)
iiMuffinsaur The Stormcloaks are right, it's essentially nationalism. Why should the Nords be ruled by a far away empire that A. Has little in common with Skyrim, excluding the fact that some of the gods are the same and B. Is in too much of a wretched condition to even enforce its sovereignty.Talos/Tiber Septim won the empire through blood and conquest; so there's no reason why the Stormcloaks shouldn't be able to do the same.
The 2nd Great War will be fucking epic.
Leron Benari I hope the 2nd Great War happens in TES VI
Leron Benari I think it will. I kind of hope you play as the dragonborn in tes 6 and save the empire. maybe you could become emporor. idk
ScoffSlaphead72 Dragonborn is a skyrim thing, if it's taking place somewhere else such as Valenwood, i doubt we will be dragonborn, most likely a new character
I don't want to be dragonborn again, but if it takes place in that timeline, which is a highly likely possibility, then I'd like to play as the wingman of dragonborn, just like I was the wingman of Martin septim, not the center of the show, but a very interesting experience nonetheless
@@cortanaai5083 plus how many years after the skyrim events is tesvi happennig like between oblivion and skyrim there is 200 hundred years..(dragonborn would be dead or very old)
Well this was rather incompetent of the people of Tamriel to break apart like this. They don't stand a chance the next time the races of Akavir decide to launch another invasion
Chloe Price The only race I can see standing up to the Akavir are the Argonians due to where they live, and the Hist.
ROFLMAOLOLForfun No remember that during the oblivion crisis the argonians were made into super soldiers by the special hist sap they ingested and were able to defeat the forces of oblivion easily and then capture southern morrowind.
The Human Akavir Are All Dead And The Four Reaming Races Have No Intentions Of Taking Tamriel
Jon Snow Classic Jon, looking at the big picture. Personally I say fok elves.
Look, the White Walk- I mean, the Akavir are coming, and we must be prepared.
Iam super into TES lore and you're video is the first i see in a long time that is not consisting to 100% out of just reading a wiki page out loud. I really like the effort of the map you made to present the different events. Keep it up, you got yourself a subscriber!
Thanks! I indeed try to keep the wiki out of it. I try to find as much lore as possible in the games but when I cannot find anything I only use wiki's as a failsafe and if I can check if the information given is canon.
I make the video's mostly because I like it to learn more about the lore myself, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong in anything. ^_^
I used some dialogue and books ingame. I also have the physical copies of the Skyrim Library so whenever I can I use them ^_^
And people say that Titus Mede was a weak and cowardly Emperor for surrendering to the Dominion. He knew that the Empire was weakened and that it was in no state to go to war, but he did it anyway. That takes strength & bravery even knowing you're in no fit state to fight a war.
He could've accepted the terms of the ultimatum but he refused even knowing that the Thalmor would go to war. Anyone who still doubts if the Emperor made the worng decision to surrender to the Dominion.
Think what would've happened to Tamriel as a whole if Titus hadn't surrendered and been killed by the Thalmor, the Empire would've been leaderless and would've collapsed along with every province even Skyrim, Hammerfell & High Rock.
Nuka Scotia I assasinated him
Diablo Acez DUDE! SAME HERE!
Titus Mede would die either way whether by the player in skyrim or by other means.
And let's not forget what happened before Titus signed the Concordat, when he retook the Imperial City. If I remember right, Titus Mede II and his troops were getting ready to charge into battle to take back the city when suddenly Titus takes out a Daedric Artifact (the sword Goldbrand) and battles with it. Not to mention how he displayed the defeated Thalmor leader to the entire city by hanging him from the Tower or Imperial Palace or whatever. I forget the details.
Titus Mede II was a secret badass.
Edit: Did some research. Apparently, the Forgotten Hero was disguised as Titus Mede II for the battle to retake the Imperial City, Titus Mede II himself was leading a completely separate battle to capture the Thalmor general (Lord Naarifin) at the same time. Also, Goldbrand is not a Daedric Artifact (although it was the reward for the Daedric Quest of Boethiah in Oblivion). Also, the rumor that Titus Mede II wielded it has never been confirmed or denied by the Imperial government. Lastly, Lord Naarifin was kept alive for 33 days while hanging from the White-Gold Tower, until a winged Daedra supposedly carried him off on the 34th day.
Nuka Scotia I hate my self for killing him
I find it hilarious that the aldmeri dominion still couldn't beat an almost completely destroyed empire at the height of their power.
Because they suck THAT BADLY at war. The 2nd great war will have the Empire absolutely mop the floor with the Aldmeri Dominion
@@1-4-johnny.cash.fan-8-8 the empire isn't in a bezter shape than before the last war.
@@αστρον They are far better, they know what to expect and even made a martyr of Titus Mead II. Not to mention even if they are splintered apart, the stormcloaks and hammerfell will come to the side of the empire.
We need a game to be set during the great war
Jesus 1999 Theres a mod of the elder scrolls in Total war II i think, it will be the closest thing that we will have to see the great war in a game
The only problem is we already know pretty much everything that happens.
Elder Scrolls Legends?
What if they take the decision from the players and make whatever the majority did cannon for all preceding games?
It would be cool to see a franchise be shaped by it's fans on such a scale imo and it would certainly go down in gaming history.
FictionSmith led by a failed mage who got political?
I feel like even though all of Tamerial is broken up and if there was another Akaviri invasion I feel like the Argonians will be able to hold there own because of the Hist. Also the 2nd Great War will be interesting to see how the fight goes.
Harambe The argonians are such badasses. The races I honestly want to see crush the Aldmeri Dominion are the Dunmer and Argonians
Joseph Colbaugh Yea and personally I agree but I think the Dunmer and Argonians are the only races that have a chance at taking out the Dominion. But I feel like we don't have enough info to judge if Black Marsh can do such a thing since they attacked a very weakened Morrowind which is why they won and they still got pushed back and out of Morrowind by the Dunmer who were badly weakened. But I do want and think that Dunmer and Argonians could take on the Dominion
Harambe we'll have to wait till Elder Scrolls 6
what? Dunmers are basically powerless. their population can't even grow big because of the Red Mountain. Plus the Argonians are way too back in technology to take on something like the Aldemeri. It's basically saying that Serbia could conquer USA.
kappa guy The Dunmer have already started rebuilding on Vvardenfel and there population is growing. And the Argonians aren't behind in technology they use the same stuff everyone else uses. They just use a different type of a warfare method. The Dunmer are rebuilding and their population is growing. Plus when Morrowind is under attack all the great houses come together which is a threat to the invaders. Morrowind is recovering at a good pace and with house Redoran at the top, the Dunmeri military will be a focus. In the time of Skyrim Morrowind can most likely win in a fight against High Rock, Elswyr and Valenwood if they didn't have Empire or Dominion support. Even scholars say when It comes to military Morrowind is right behind Cyrodiil in military might. Also Dunmer aren't the ones to just give up so the Dunmer aren't powerless and they have already started rebuilding on Vvardenfel and the rest of Morrowind the got sacked by Black Marsh. One more point If the Imperials have control of Riften they even say that the are afraid that Morrowind might try to do something and that's why they are glad to have Riften as a city to keep a eye on them. Again Morrowind isn't powerless and they are recovering very well. Now for Black Marsh I can't say much because they got beat back by the Dark Elves when they were at their weakest state
Lol this made me regret joining the stormcloaks. The Empire needs Skyrim and Skyrim needs the Empire
DB The stormcloacks are fighting against The wrong enemy
Yes they are. Ulfric made them fight for the wrong cause
Exactly. I joined the Imperial Legion because I wanted to return the Empire to it's glory days in the 3rd era. I kill all Stormcloaks because I'm obligated to but I also kill all Thalmor on sight. They are the true enemy. I hope we get to take them down in TES 6
DB what has the empire ever done for us?
I always just stay out of the war, because I honestly think both sides are wrong, and should be fighting on the same side, not against each other.
I can't believe I'm learning the political history of a game, but I can't remember most of the history of my country, I'm trash
Me too
This is interesting, reality is most definitely not.
@@spudthepug Reality has even more such events as political assassination, wars, purges, repressions, rise and fall of great empires. You're just bad at history, mate. Every rpg bases off something real. Every Cyrodilic Empire is a copy of Roman Empire, lmao.
@@Раббожий-щ5ч harsh but true
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Imperial Knowledge
Argonian master race
+Adolf Hitler Just like when you invaded poland (Hihi history joke) I don't think the Stormcloaks would be able to hold of the Thalmor. Remember that the Imperial legion is waaay bigger than what you see in Skyrim. Those in Skyrim are just local recruited soldiers while 90% of the Legion is stationed at the border with the dominion (Tullius tells you that somewhere in the questline I believe, correct me if I am wrong)
Also the reason Hammerfell was able to repel the Dominion was because half of the Legion stayed there under "Retirement" so they had twice the strenght (If not more) of regular Hammerfell.
So to conclude, no, I don't think the stormcloaks would be able to stop the Dominion if they are the leading power in Skyrim. Because the Thalmor army is 29397 times larger than the small legion stationed in Skyrim which the Stormcloaks already struggle to defeat.
I hope that answers your question ^.^
Imperial Knowledge So does that mean that the Thalmor Have somewhat control of The Imperial Legion
Yes, at the moment the Thalmor de facto
control the Empire.
Imperial Knowledge Thank you, that's what troubled me to understand.
This would make an epic elder scrolls storyline for a future game.
"After Oblivion crisis, the whole Tamriel was in chaos, at it ended. But wait.... THERE'S MORE! How about red mountain, some Stormcloaks, some dragons and sheit?"
i was so blind to why the elves one the war, and what astonishes me even more(not pertaining to this video) is that it was never really about just bending the worship of Talos. it was also about destroying mankind FOREVER. they've already destroyed every Tower including the white-gold tower and now all they have to do is completely ban the worship of Talos and Destroy mankind.
yup thats their plan why abunited empire id the only way unless all humans will be killed
yup thats their plan why abunited empire id the only way unless all humans will be killed
Red J the aldmeri want revenge on men as they worship Tiber Septim who committed genocide on the summerset isles with a dwemer machine given to Tiber Septim by false gods and were forced into an empire they never wanted to enter
Red J you'll probably never see this but not every tower is destroyed; if that was the case then Mundus would've already fell apart. There's still the Snow Throat (Throat of the World) and some others
The Dominion didn't win the war. It was a stalemate. The final battle of the war was the Battle of Red Ring when the Empire retook the Imperial City and decimated the Dominion's main army in Cyrodil, preventing their retreat and killing them all, and left Lord Naraafin to hang from the White Gold Tower for 33 days.
Does the Aldmeri Dominion attack the Empire a second time?
They probably will, but we will never know sure until The Elder Scrolls 6.
They always prefer the Great War as the First Great War so yes they will.
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oh they will. they r waiting out the civil war. they don't want either side to win. they want them to go as long as possible until the Empire stop sending troops and recalling wats left the legion in Skyrim. because the empire cant keep sending in soldiers to quell a rebellion. the civil war is in a stalemate and as long as the Dragonborn doesn't join a side, itll only be a matter of time until the Empire gives up and recalls wats left of their legion. only then will the dominion attack. now, if the Dragonborn joins the rebels, itll be beneficial for both sides. the empire will have to recall their soldiers from Skyrim. which means less land to protect and more soldiers in Cyrodiil to protect it from the dominion *though High Rock would have to rely on the Imperial Navy now but who cares :D* and though they will be much weaker from the war, at least they will have more soldiers on the border of the dominion and the empire. the Kingdom of Skyrim will be independent, lead by High King Ulric Stormcloak, and will provide a safe haven for all the talos worshippers who r hiding from the thalmor. not only that, but Skyrim can focus on building their own military. a actual army of soldiers instead of militia. they will also focus on building a navy to protect their only coast; the northern coast. and if the thalmor want to take Skyrim but not go to war with the empire yet, they will have to land in Skyrim by sea. and Skyrim will already heavily fortified their borders. not to mention the Dragonborn will be fighting along side the new Skyrim Military. itll be very costly to the Dominion and would most likely be a failure
GodofGames2468 It is much more beneficial if the dragon born joins the side of the imperials. The thalmor themselves state that it would be more beneficial for the stormcloaks to win as it would weaken the empire and leave skyrim in a state of disarray making it much easier to conquer in the future. After the stormcloaks have been defeated the empire can focus on destroying the thalmor with them help of the dragon born.
So highrock doesnt do anything right?
They dont even join the fight?
Razor Shell They do. They assist the Redguards in fighting of the Aldmeri Dominion
Use to respect Titus Mede for being a strong leader and taking back his city... that was until TES Legends came out and showed us it was Not Titus but the forgotten hero that lead the counter attack that took back the imperial city
Dark Elf The forgotten hero only took action in the final battle vs Narafiin. The rest was the real emperor.
That's kinda like saying fuck Talos bc he didn't deserve his divinity, the Numidium just wrote him into the song of existence as shor.
TES in general. Have never 'completed' it (or at least see the main quest lines to the end) but it is still a game I keep coming back to - new game every time...Time to learn all about it's beautiful lore. Brilliant channel!
It would have been nice if you explained how important the moons were to the Khajiit when you were talking about the Void Nights.
Long Live The Empire!
ARTEMIS The Empire will be destroyed soon or late, *Long live Mehrunes Dagon*
OOOOO I'll have your head, rebel!
Scott Glennon ulfric is the true high king of Skyrim!
Comrade Mihco dumb stormcloak sympathizer even if you win it'll still be a gain for the thalmor and they could crush your pitiful independent Skyrim without the empire so I suggest stop your rebellion, surrender, and fight with the imperials against the thalmor scum which is the true enemy
If you've played the Helgen Reborn mod in Skyrim, you'll know it makes references to the Sacking of the Imperial City by the Aldmeri Dominion. One of the main characters you meet in the quest mod is a former renowned general in the Imperial Legion, who is now in hiding in Helgen and is being hunted down by the Thalmor. Long story short, during the war, he fought along side the Redguards in Hammerfell, but he was not there when the elves sacked the capital. He had family in the city, and they were subjected to their atrocities. Because he is renowned, a high ranking Thalmor leader ordered the rape of his wife, his daughter, and even his son. What's really fucked up is how later on the same Thalmor leader brags about it hysterically in front of the general while he is dying from a spell he cast upon him.
That's not canon lore, though.
+Dragonlight Reaper I know, but it sheds a very graphic light on that moment in Tamriel history. Really got my blood boiling the first time, like "I wanna kill me some elves!".
I doubt the Thalmor rapes any of their prisoners, they consider themselves extremely superior.
+Galadhrim Not canon, but the atrocities committed by the elves within the Imperial City was real... Never thought too much about it until I played the mod is what I'm saying.
Goddamned mede he should have change the imperial swords to *CURVED SWORDS* .
Holy shit. at the current state, argonia could feasibly overtake Cyrodil
Nope, Cyrodiil is more militarized than it's ever been before and more than every other province, however most of the soldiers are stationed at the borders waiting for the Dominion's next invasion. The Emperor even hesitates to give General Tullius reinforcements because he doesn't want to weaken their defenses in Cyrodiil in case the Dominion attacks.
you just supported my argument. the empire is wide open to an attack by the argonian forces.
Martin Stich The way you put it, is that the Empire barely has a military left. The Argonians still couldn't invade because that area still would be hot with soldiers and it's just across from the Niben river. All they'd have to do is march a Legion or two across and destroy any Argonian invasion.
But why would they need/want to? There's no sense in it, unless the Hist told them to, which is unlikely.
I didn´t say they would, just that it was possible. I personally don´t think they would attempt to do so if given the chance.
Excellent explanation of the events leading up to the White-Gold Concordat (not sure if I spelled it right). It's sad to me that Morrowind is effectively persona non grata. The Dunmer hold a special place to me and I love playing a Dunmer in the games. Maybe the Empire will get its shit together and start rebuilding it or the Dunmer will return on their own and set up a new independent nation.
The Dunmer's were always outcasts in the Empire, they worship Daedra and hate all non-Dunmer. So it's interesting to see how they cope with having to live in other races countries
Tamriel is tiny, even that island in the centre of cyrodill is taken up mostly by a small city
In game yes but lore wise the imperial city is supposed to be huge.
best lore video ever . it really helps me when I can see the maps . thanks for video!!
Now this is some cool stuff, you deserve way more subscribers. Also, does somebody else also wants the Stormcloaks to win the war against the empire, and then have High Rock separating from the Empire too, so another empire can rise from a more powerful nation, like Hammerfell, Argonia, High Rock or Skyrim?
I don't know if that is even possible to be honest. If it was possible it would definitely be the best outcome... but it is very unlikely that would happen. The best chance the humans have against the Thalmor is to be united in the current Empire.
But it is certainly interesting to think about an outcome where the provinces that left reunite in a new Empire against the Thalmor, I just don't see it happen in the near future, unfortunately
Imperial Knowledge I think that the stormcloak victory will turn out to be canon, and the empire will fall and the aldmeri dominion will take over from it. This opens up many game possibilities for Bethesda...
+Schlomo Shekelstein I believe that Skyrim will remain to the empire, and probably the Dragon Born will become the new Emperor, becouse he destroyed the dragons and reunited skyrim with the Empire.
+Baldons not necessarily as we don't know what's canon yet
theZXDgames I agree. I don't see Argonia doing it though because they are pretty secluded
Morrowind is still part of the Empire, though there isn't much of an imperial presence in the province.
no after the fall of House Hlaalu, they declared independence, albeit the Indoril and Dres never accepted imperial rule
They never declared independence, the wiki says Morrowind is still part of the Empire.
+David Donnelly the elder scrolls wiki is shit, use the unofficial or the imperial library, the Elder scrolls wiki doe's not even have an article on Aka
+Fegelein abolitionist
yes that is a problem but Meade only conquered the human nations and the two khajjit nations, the empire in skyrim is the fourth Cyrodillic empire of man and one thing to remember is after the oblivion Crisis Redoran and Indoril, I presume as they are the only two houses that would have the political reasons and house unity to do so, blamed Hlaalu for the weakness of morrowind and lynched them out of Resdayn. so why would Redoran or Indoril, most likely Redoran as the capitol is the Redoran capitol, join the fourth empire of man. and in skyrim Imperial troops say "good thing we have Riften so we have a launching point into morrowind, just incase"
great video I didn't even know hamerfell didn't sign the white gold concorgent
why do the stormcloaks blame the empire for the signing of white gold concordate? they literally had no choice
they dont understand tatics the emperor is rebuilding his forces but ulfric is too blood thirsty to understand
+Rafael Lopez yup but hia followers dont get it
They have no choice... best thing to do is to genocide the elfs and then they will have a choice.
I can see some people here are real retards. And calling the Empire cowards, after something like the Battle of the Red Ring, is a new level of stupidity. Welp, Stormcloaks.
like how the nazi’s blamed their predecessors for signing the treaty of Versailles...
this is what those stromcloak didnt get it . the empire u see suffering during the first great war . they just preparing for the upcoming war so the empire is ready to attack once more
so i guess you think hammerfell was also wrong to go into open rebellion
Mount & Blade: Dominion Empire
TES VI: Bannerlord When
Honestly an elder scrolls set during the Hammerfell and Aldemeri Dominion war would be cool
If the Bretons had helped in the 1st Great War it would have been far different. They and their mages are the strongest in the Empire
i think your video is great, i think if you talked a bit more energetically, it would have even more views! just a thought. subbed
thanks! it was my first vid, in my other vid's I am doing that, I am also working on a video now that will go online in 1-2 days so stay tuned ^_^
the empire was smart they cqn have children the elves takes decades to mature the empire will win the war.
I never understood why people consider it an Aldimeri victory. The Aldimeri Dominion ended up paying the Empire a ton of gold, their army groups were both nearly totally destroyed (and their main general was captured), and Hammerfell defied one of the terms of the Concordat (thus succeeding from the Empire) and kept up the fight. The situation is a textbook stalemate at the Valenwood, Elsweyr, Cyrodiil border. In fact, I would say the Empire is most likely to win a second great war considering that Hammerfell is still kinda friendly with the Empire, and Skyrim stays with the Empire no matter what side of the Civil War you choose.
Where did it ever say the Dominion payed gold to the Empire? I believe the Concordat said it was the Empire who payed the Dominion.
58 subs? hedeserved way more than that
Fardin Noohan He has got 7K now
People shit on Skyrim, but I do love the backstory of the Great War. I mean people still debate Stormcloaks vs. Empire. That has to stand for something. Really hoping that Elder Scrolls 6 explores a Second Great War.
the internet... the only place where I can talk about my lore nerdyness of the elder scrolls... seriously I know WAY more than I should about elder scrolls lore.
Fun fact this the only video where you dont say hello youtube
Titus Mede II didn't have to sign the white gold concordat as the Aldmeri forces were weakened. There was a chance they would be defeated but they had a good chance of winning even if it was a hard fight.
The connected island under Hammerfell looks like a guy in a robe fighting with his shield raised
If they make the Stormcloaks win and it is set at that, it would be smart to have an independent Skyrim that is an ally to the Empire. The nords would still be happy with no empire in their borders, and they could both work to end the Aldmeri Dominion. It’s a win win if they join but not under the same banner, Stormcloaks and Imperials together with no need to fight amongst themselves.
+Eric Barcelona You should watch my Ulfric theory, I go over this situation ;)
Moral of the story the elves hated the fact that a race of man rules over them and hate the fact that a man A MAN becomes a god damn elves
The Heir Of Rome Moral of the story you're a heretic worshiper of a dead man, yes I said right, *DEAD MAN* Tiber Septim never become a God, that's because lesser races like Breton, Nord, Redguard, Imperial, Khajiit and Argonian can't become Gods, only Mer races are Gods, so learn it once and for all: *TALOS IS NOT A GOD, ELVEN SUPREMACY IS THE ONLY TRUTH*
Marcos Ashford #SomosTodosDoAlém so riddle me this to open a portal from the oblivion do you not need a artifact or blood of a divine and if I’m not mistaken didn’t some one use the armour of Talos and BOOM portal
The Heir Of Rome Oh yes, the blood of Akatosh, my Altmer have the blood of Akatosh too, is my Altmer a God too?
Marcos Ashford #SomosTodosDoAlém Alright you think that alright well at the time of the oblivion crisis you know when Talos was and always is praised a god Martin Septim sent a hero of course if you know who the hero is he went to Sancra Tor and got the Armour of Talos and brought it back and he opened a portal which Martin read in a book that the only way to open such a portal is with again a artifact or blood of a divine and well at the time people believe tales is a divine and guess what he is a divine
The Heir Of Rome I guess not, the Armour of Talos is just a armour like anyother, the armour have the blood of Talos, Talos was Dragonborn, Dragonborn have the blood of Akatosh and Akatosh is a divine, Martin Septim realy used the blood of a divine, but that divine was Akatosh not Talos.
Awesome video! Thank you!
wish they would make a game where your a soldier in the great war choose your side. or even a dlc but a big one idk would be cool In my opinion
Dominic p like the Anchorage dlc but with more choices
Nice job explaining the Great War boss
How informational thank you for this! 👍
Hehe perfect music choice. I put all of the Skyrim and Morrowind music files I could into an Oblivion play through and this is just great. Also good delivery on the storytelling aspect, although voice quality isn’t great. Sounds like that’s been fixed going through popular videos rn
"Aennaeville", lol I needed a few minutes to understand that was "Anvil".
Nois, to
Either side could potentially have used these forbidden strategies against the other: Feint attacks while retreating, forcing the other side to level up too quickly on animal spawns, bandits and necromancers, making them forever unable to get the maximum amount of attribute points.
Send spies into their camp to engage them in conversation, increasing their Charisma too much and draining their fighting ability.
Retreat into canyons and other narrow passages: place low ceilings, whereupon the enemy must crouch, raising its Sneak levels.
In similar chokepoints, place locked doors, ensuring a hapless foe that only knows Security techniques. Leveled too high and completely inept at battle, the effete rabble will quickly fall prey to Billies, Ogres and giant bears.
Talos was the same if not worse than this, he forced the Summerset Isles into the empire with a magical robot from the Dwemer because he was too bitchass to take them in a fight. I don't even blame them for banning his worship. He wasn't so holy. I really hope the next Elder Scrolls are in Summerset Isles so we get a inside look at them, because right now they are just a villain with no depth.
I agree with some of what you said, but not all. Tiber Septim did viciously conquer most of Tamriel (some provinces wanted to join the Empire and they only loosely took hold of Black Marsh (as shown by how easily they left)), but he was a tactical genius about it. Taking your best shot at victory isn't really being a bitchass. While I do sympathize with pre-Thalmor Altmer for being forced into the Empire, their retaliation was an overreaction. Thoughts of their racial supremacy bolstered their already inflated egos and imposed thoughts of grandeur. While his methods were more than a little questionable, the Empire did bring upon an almost unheard of time of peace, prosperity, and and continental trade. The new Dominion mainly wishes to take Tamriel to prove how large their cumulative cocks are. This wouldn't be a problem if they just took a more passive state like the Argonians. They didn't attempt "revenge" or anything of the sort towards the Empire. Their only hostile actions were towards the Dunmer, who have mistreated the Argonians almost since the dawn of their race.
Wow Thanks man for the video!
And then the dragons showed up, eating man and mer alike, torching Skyrim, harassing the Dragonborn by killing their 15th f*cking horse when they were over-encumbered, and generally being douchebags until Alduin's defeat, after which, the skies over the Summerset Isles were filled with dragons, routinely stopping by to take a dump on the capitol.
*Hail the Hist! Long live Argonia!*
I really want to see a story where skrim breaks off then comes into an alliance with hammerfell. Being cut off high rock leaves. The Dominion invades and takes cyrodil. Then a alliance of Skyrim hammerfell and high rock invade cyrodiil with the dragonborn at the lead with the upper hand with an army of dragons with the objective to reclaim it. Valenwood leaves the Dominion due to high elven purges on the natives. The imperial city is reclaimed with the dragonborn crowned emperor. Elsywer is "persuaded" to join the new empire. Valenwood is also excepted because of their "neutrality" in the liberation of cyrodiil. A full on invasion on summerset. A battle with all races save the argonians and the dunmer. Dragons sweeping through aldmeri forces clashing of blades a naval battle along the entire cost and magic flying from one side to another. Thanks to the dragons and an anti thalmor rebellion leads to the fall of the aldmeri Dominion. a new empire is founded with Morrowind and argonia maybe joining later on.
He is the Last Dragonborn. Pretty fitting for him to end the Dragon Blood legacy with a bang.
Good luck with the invasion of Summerset Isles lmaooooo
Milkman McGregor I'm going to say that would perfect for a series finale
He is only the last dragonborn because there were several possibilties on the fate of the world including Alduin winning in one meaning they could not past this point to see if there will be anymore dragonborn because it was uncertain if the world would have survived. Now that Aluduin is defeated they will be able to see the future again
How about the dragonborn uniting the empire and stormcloaks and wake their dumb assrs to face the real enemy, much easier and better than an indepenfent Skyrim imo, then he could partially teunite with the redgaurds or alliance with them, then declare full scale war to the damn elves for all it's worth it
Looking back at this now that TES6 has been teased, it makes sense that the events of Skyrim have a direct sequel at Hammerfell. We’ll see it in the 2020’s.
This Video Made me Love even More The Empire.
You should watch the remake of this video with better editing and mic, its even more epic
I've never understood how the empire could just let nations secede from their control like that. Sounds more like a union than an empire.
Because they have no power to do anything in the 4th era. Cyrodiil itself was overrun by bandit groups and Mede has only partially restored it by the time the war breaks out. I recommend the novels, The Infernal City and Lord of Souls.
Celan ooh, i'll check those out. Thanks!
Because of lack of manpower. Just look at the collapse of the Roman provinces like britannia when Atilla attacked.
Isn't the Dragonborn in Skyrim actually not the legitimate ruler of the Empire now? Wasn't Tiber Septim not a dragonborn aswell? Put the fking demigod of a mortal on that throne and end this war, he could easily be hailed as the reincarnation of Tiber Septim.
I guess the goal for a future elder scrolls game is for the map to encompass all of tamriel for the player to explore.
The empire is going to make a comeback bitches since my Dragonborn sided with the true rulers of Skyrim.
Make the Empire great again !!!
I'm Just hoping for an Orc Invasion! WAAAAARG!
Smashing Aldmeri skulls and drinking sweet sweet skooma.
and despite it all
they still blamed germany
How Germany?
@@bryanmanuel4945 Cuz Germany
Wow Awesome! Thank you so much!
Great video! It"s really coherent, interesting and informative. But I think the music was too loud compared to your voice.
if you had better sound quality and added more visuals I think you could be huge in the ES community. keep up the good work
Clannad Cryer This was my first vid! check out the others
A Norwegian with a strong texan accent and actually managing to not get a single lore-word right. I'm digging it, I already love this channel
+edraith It was my first vid. And that is a Dutch accent, but the Netherlands is basically the Texas of Northern Europe
Sorry, I mislocated the accent. I liked and subscribed, anyway
Great video! I'm actually glad this was made before Legends, cause it just makes it so underwhelming? Like, you have a Hero marching out at literally every major conflict now, and also everything is a Daedric plot?
Hey great video, but it would of been a lot better if the background music was quieter.
Good video, thank you kind sir 👍
Make Leowyn Khajiit again
Awesome lore video
this reaffirms my stormcloak position, with the main Aldemeri army "destroyed" and the second army on the retreat in Hammerfell, the emperor should have easily been able to occupy northern Anequina at the very least, considering they had 3 yes damaged but battle hardened armies against either no Thalmor armies or an occupation force which would be thin and inexperienced, Titus Mede took the cowards way out.
So, fragment and tear appart half of the only empire of men so the elves can take over easier right, stormcloak?
Indded, if there is an Elder Schrolls VI, it will be interesting how the state of the Empire will be. Will it fall? ;)
Sowieso nederlands. Thank voor dit filmpje
Ben je Nederlands?
I never realized how the civil war in Skyrim really played a huge part, as if the cloaks win it cuts the remaining empire in half and 100% sure the Bretons would leave the empire leaving only cyrodil. that would be disastrous for the empire. The obvious choice to leave the realm of men connected as one nation as the elves are. that's the only way to keep a balance
And to think that this whole empire can be crossed in a few hours of gameplay.
I do a this lecture instead of my next day examination
Instead of doing my history homework I watched these videos.
I should make history videos
well hammerfell looks like a badass state tbh
good video
i liked this video, it was verrryyy good. i fill like skyrim could take all of tamriel if they would team up.
this video opened my eyes to something, the civil war in Skyrim, not the Empire's fault, they did sign the White-Gold Concordat, which the Thalmor purposely targeted to piss of the people of Skyrim, and as some points of lore tell us, the Thalmor don't want the civil war to end, because it means both the empire and Skyrim, which is arguably one of the strongest provinces, are both weakened, and if the civil war wasn't altered by the dragonborn, the Thalmor may have been able to just sorta walk through the remaining empire and Skyrim, with some defense of course, say the warriors of hammerfell, they wouldn't just roll over and be taken over, but the point was to make it easier for them to invade, so, headcanon just made up by me
Not sure why there are so many comments asking why the Bretons of High Rock didn't fight, is that mentioned somewhere that I missed? According to the map they remained part of the Empire, so it's safe to assume their citizenry would be allowed to volunteer for or be drafted into the Imperial Legion forces...
I would like to know your source for the statement that Thalmor agents installed the An Xileel in Black Marsh.
Mede simply lost his nerve, and he's wasting resources trying to prop up the empire's rotting structures rather than accept that the old empire is dead.
Wow, the Empire is badass
So pretty much:
Summer Set Isles, Valenwood, Elswyr VS Cyrodil, Hammerfell, Daggerfall, Skyrim
High and wood elves vs imperials, red guards, nords, bretons?
I find the Argonians stand neat. They left the Empire and decided to invade Morrowind (Which I don't blame them) and if all failed they can easily return to Black Marsh and defend their land if they have to because it is pretty hard for foreigners to Black Marsh to survive aswell as fight the Argonians.
Lurtz The Orc well I think the argonians invaded because years of enslavement by the dark elves
I really hope the 2nd great war isn't skipped in Elderscrolls 6
I read the thalmor dossier that saying ulfric is thalmor's secret weapon .I find it interesting if I can backfire Thalmor by using their own so-called secret weapon, so I join Stormcloak and destroy Empire. Plus ,I just want to cause some chaotic environment in the game .(Hopefully I can destroyed Thalmor and betrayed Stormcloak after a destruction of the Empire in Skyrim. Too bad I can't do them in the game.)
and now Skyrim is pissed off at the Empire simply giving up against the Aldmeri Dominion