This Survival Tool Is Built to Last Forever
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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In todays video we review an item that is over 100 years old yet is still highly innovative and unique.
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Ordered one, December 2021 and it's now February 2022 and no response to my email?
Canada Post shows it in transit since Jan 6....
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~May I ask, you ordered one from where, what web-site.?
~ If it is already been shipped out and Canada Post shows it in transit since Jan. 6 then that means it could be lost in the mail or maybe mail theft.?
~Because I also wouldn't mind ordering one.
@@royjohnson465 ok, ordered from canadianpreparedness
- it just arrived, i was somehow in transit from December till today, very weird. it would always help with these hot items to call the seller ahead and double check the eta before ordering, my advice now
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~Okay thanks for the advice, a long time, so it has finally arrived, great.!! Enjoy using it, wash(I would use half vinegar & half water and let it soak overnight) and then rinse it out before using it.
What is the water capacity of this stove. And of course you can only boil water...?
Good to see a Kelly on your show . Had mine for 28 years now and common here in UK , just the best bit of kit ever . The upgraded plug is vented and whistles when the water is boiling . The hole at the bottom is usually used for putting fuel while cooking . Drop the chain down the centre to keep it secure . The base is separate to allow cleaning of the inside of the Kelly when it gets sooted up which obviously slows down boiling time .
what a nice and helpful comment!
cheers
How much are they sold for in the UK just wondering for comparison to Canadian price 👍💯💯 God bless the UK 💯💯
@@adamthiessen2676 Without the gubbings , pots and cups and stuff about 60 UK Pounds . With all the gubbings about 100 UK pounds . I built a hot plate for mine .
@@adamthiessen2676 i picked up a ghillie (called ghillie kettle over here for some reason?) for around 42 quid for the 1 litre. just the kettle and a bag though, none of the extra cooking stuff
You ever use fuel with it? Like an isobutane stove to heat the water instead of wood?Thanks
It works even better if you read and follow the instructions that come with it when it comes to lifting the kettle off the base while the fire is burning. Put the handle toward the back (away from the spout) at about 90° to lift it off the base. Then you can carry it or pour water with the handle over the chimney after it has been removed from the base.
I've been using my Kelly for decades. I can usually have coffee poured before most folk can get their stove lit. I prepack about a dozen pencil sized pieces of pencil sized wood in a strip of wax paper. the paper is the tinder and that much fuel boils my 1 litre pot.
Many of the drawbacks in the comment section can be fixed by learning to use the kettle, property.
After using the kettle, (practice or rehersal) you can better gauge how much fuel is needed to boil, without leaving a raging fire going that will spill out and burn down a forest.
The clip base idea is nice, but risky. Pouring the water out with the fire going, (again the raging fire) can be enough to warp the kettle in cold enough conditions. And if you're thinking i wouldn't have a raging fire.. then you wouldn't need the clip on base.
So with the right amount of fuel, you can remove the kettle, with a decent bed of coals in the base, refill and restoke. Simple. Just a little practice using a new tool makes a big difference.
Like placing the base on a level surface so it doesn't tip. Digging out snow or creating a platform so it won't sink and choke out the fire or tip.
The design is elegant. Spend some time using one and it all begins to make sense.
It is however a specialty item. Boiling water is where kelly shines.
Other "stoves" are more efficient at cooking.
I representative from Kelly Kettle should ask for a better video. He clearly has no idea how to use the damn thing. He then goes on to make suggestions on how to improve its design.
@@troyfreedom actually the design could be improved.
He's right about the clip on base.
I would also provide a better method for a pot stand on top for actual cooking, and "A ONE GALLON WATER CAPACITY."
I really like my tea and hot chocolate and I also like clean dishes and utensils!
Trying to heat enough water to clean up after dinner for 3-4 people even with minimal water usage is lamentable in a camp with those tiny cook pots most of which were used to make dinner for 4 people.
Don't be so high and mighty that you think you're perfect.
Be open to constructive criticism and remember that in the business world "stagnation is death."
Aside from the price of the Kelly kettle the other thing that's kept me from buying one is that even the largest one available is too small for my needs.
I've taken to carrying a 12 quart stock pot with me. (Sometimes I even carry a 20 quart.)
I put all my food my water filter and my cooking gear inside, place that in my bear bag in Nestle in the bottom of my backpack. (Or the top depending on I'm doing and where I'm going.)
@@kenkneram4819 Large amounts of water can be boiled in a "samovar" style boiler. I have one it is considerably bigger than a kelly kettle (i have two of those) and works very well as a family camp source of hot water using exactly the same principles. It is not suitable for hanging off your backpack. The Kelly/Ghillie kettle is pretty unmatched as as a quick boiling biofuel water heater in the field. I have one in my car,i can set it up, fuel it with roadside twigs and make a cup of coffee in 10 minutes. A gas stove would be quicker but I don't have to worry about running out of gas.
@Repent to Jesus Christ!
Repent for what exactly?
that actually makes alot sense after thinking a bit about it. the not connected base realy threw me off, but with a little practice it stops to be a big deal. thx for pointing it out, its such a "selfexplaining" thought that it didnt even occure to me to think on it tbh *^^*
Very good review. I own a kelly stove. For 22 yrs now. It still looks as it did 20 yrs ago and i use it every weekend. I clean mine with a brush after every use when i get back home as with all my gear. With all due respect, nothing lasts forever without being mindful that it does require cleaning from time to time. Just as anything. Being repectful of the things one has will make it last for generations to come.
Respect in everything in life secures it for the future. Like family, friendships, animals. Onky take what we need and leave the rest for someone else.
Wise advice - thank you 🙏
I wonder if you rub liquid soap all in the inside where the fire goes if it would make it easy to clean. Thats what you can do to a pot if you don't want the fire to make it black
I own two Kelly Kettles that I got from my grandfather who lived through the great depression, they still even have the cork plugs, not the new rubber.
Great item to have.
Very cool!! And special
The first kettle dates back to the 1890's to a small farm on the shores of Lough Conn, County Mayo, Ireland, when a young Patrick Kelly (Great grand-father of the current Co. Directors), a small farmer and fisherman, developed his first kettle from Tin after a cold winter of tinkering and experimenting in a shed.
I love Kelly, she heats up water like a rocket on very littl fuel. The one thing I've never bothered doing yet is filling the middle up with fire lighting, fuel etc. You've missed the main trick with the chain as well, feed that through the handle gap and you can use it to take it off without burning your hands and you can tilt the kettle to pour it too.
You don't want to fill up the center like he did. That is why it was burning so dirty and putting out that black smoke, he was blocking the natural draft as it is essentially a rocket stove so it's very fuel efficient in terms of wood use, a little goes a long ways as it creates a strong draft and thus a complete burn of the wood.
Most of his cons are self inflicted on just doing stupid stuff that while I've never used one personally I instantly said "Wait that is user error" just from the looks of it.
@@SilvaDreams the reason why his stove wasnt burning is beause the base melted in the snow and his air vent got closed off with snow thats why when he tilted it off the base a bit it fired up again.
Right. RTFM before showing how to use shit on a youtube channel!
Seems like a cool design but I wonder how it would hold up for "successive" boiling for a number of people. Metal reacts poorly when cold water is poured into it while still very hot. Especially when there is a large difference in heat between the inner and out layer. I hear pinging already.
That is a great trick. Especially when it's below zero and you don't like messing around.
Bought one of these about 6 months ago and immediately took it out to the pond and boiled and drank the water from it. It works exactly as advertised. Since then we also picked up a Minuteman k rocket stove. There again worked really well and should be able to cook anything we need with small branches or whatever else we have on hand. Would recommend both.
There are a lot of advantages to Kelly Kettles. 1 They work when it's properly cold like -60C (-76F) or colder. Butane stoves don't do that. 2 You can also make a sort of "puck" of fuel with some candle wax on it and a bit of cotton wool with a bit of vaseline on it in the middle and it will light from a single match or a single strike from a ferorod. IE ideal for when someone is going down with hypothermia to get a hot drink into them. 3 no fiddly bits to fall off and break. 4 If you get the right type, an alcohol burner fits in them just right. Beware though if the alcohol gets too hot it starts boiling and you get a blow torch effect in all directions. You have to use a burner that is low profile.
If you make a puck, you may end up with more fire than you need and no way to extinguish it.
I have had one for many years and love it. Use less wood (like 3 x less than you did ) and the wood will still boil fast and you will have no flame issues when you take it of the base. Noticed you burnt the handle on the over flamed fire. We all do that at least once . Great product.
I saw the black on the handle then realized it was his black glove not charred handle.
@@mlothyan8154 No the handle is definitely charred.
I have had that same one for years! Love it. The smaller the fuel the less it smokes with dark black smoke. I've tried loading it up with fuel and it simply doesn't work as well. I've used the Kelly kettle pan and simply it's not something I would take with me. The silicone plug is simply to keep the water chamber clean. Great product for car or horse camping. The small one would possibly work for personal carry. Great product
Those are made right down the road from me, Leesburg FL. Only issue I have with them is not alotta capacity & takes some time to get the temps right with fuel.
I'm not to far myself
Where at in Leesburg? Not far from there.
@@cathyd.williamssaltlight5373 right off 44 & main street .heading towards 75. Near the old bowling alley
@@truthlight2816 eustis
@@Wheeling88 thank you!
The kelly kettle is a nifty idea. Basically a teapot with a built-in rocket stove. It's too bad its flexibility beyond that is limited. I think we could make this design better & more versatile.
A bit like the lower and larger part of a Samovar.
Though I think could be hard to get clean if you boil or cook something else then water.
Its pretty perfect as is .Never breaks , boils water in minutes with little fuel , cooks a great fry up . Keep a bag of bone dry wood or pine cones with the Kelly and you are good to go whatever the weather . If you have the inclination you can get a 2ft square piece of steel plate ,drill a hole in each corner , tap and dye and get 4 pieces steel rod ,thread and screw . you get a good hot plate which is great for a fry up and pancakes rather than all the pots . Less cleaning with a hot plate i find . Oh . if its really windy (a normal day her in Scotland ) and on open ground try digging a hole to put it in as a wind shield .
They make a rack that fits in the top for holding a small pot
@@Chris-tz9ct I'm confused/curious about the 2ft metal sheet. Are you supposed to carry that around with you?
@@nii0l Its just something i made for myself many full moons ago . 1/4inch plate (6mm) and i drilled hole in each corner tap and dye . Legs screw in and it looks like a wee metal table that the Kelly sits under . I like a fry up and pancakes and stuff and i find it easier to cook and clean on a hot plate plus its pretty stable and tip proof ,thats all . I keep it in the back of my Defender but if i have to use it during a power cut it sits just out side the back door . .
I have had one of these for about 20 years, the silicone plug is actually a whistle as well as a plug to keep muck out of the double skin as Chris below said.
We had a similar contraption on the back of my tank while in the army to heat water for washing made from a 5 gallon oil drum and a tube welded into the centre, we called that a Bengasi which works the same principle as the Kelly Kettle only the fuel was a a bean can with sand soaked in petrol.
Like the beaver throw.
I just read about Kelly kettles in a series of British novels! I had no idea how they worked! This would be a great thing to have going inside a tent or shelter. It acts as a heater, and having hot or boiling water on hand is always an essential in a well-run camp. With my then-husband, I used to cook for anywhere from 12 to 40 people out of a camp kitchen, and we kept at least 3 large thermos flasks full of hot water full all day long. Hot drinks, washing hands thoroughly, warming up, dishes and kitchen cleanup, and first aid all can use a lot of hot water. This is going on my wish list for sure!
Without proper ventilation you could die from carbone menoxide in your sleep. Happens a lot to inexperienced backpackers / hikers
Absolute genius, this product. Had mine for over a year. Best kettle I’ve owned. Remove it from the fire by holding the handle with both hands at a 90degree angle from the kettle. This avoids your hand from being burned. The stopper whistles when the boil is reached. Also you can use the kettle with any hobo stove or the Firebox. It works perfectly everytime and boils (mine is the smallest) 650ml in under 3 min. Go for one if you hesitate.
Enjoy the good times while we can. Thanks CP you always keep it realistic. I hope to run across people like you when TSHTF. We are all each other have.
good point
Geez, i thought we were all gonna be safe and sound in meta!?
Amen. This year is going to be crazy.
We have a kk. Bought it 10 year’s ago. LOVE IT! Everyone needs one for hot water fast with only sticks! Coffee, tea, noodles …..
LOVE my Kelly kettle! 1800's tech to the rescue!
Remeber.. Filter first, then boil!
My heat pump quit working once it froze out.
THIS IS WHY I PREP!!!
I HAVE 2 MY LITTLE BUDDY HEATERS WITH LOTS OF PROPANE BOTTLES.
I'M SO HAPPY I STARTED WATCHING YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU.
I WOULDN'T HAVE WHAT I HAVE IF I WASN'T A PEPPER. YES HEAT GO'S DOWN!! THANK YOU SO MUCH..
You should have shown how to grip the handle whilst taking it off of the stove. Many a people have burnt themselves severly because they did not do it the right way. Had mine for over twelve years now and it is an amazing peace of gear.
I've had my Kelly Kettle for 20 years now and love it. It works, I wish I had it when I was a SERE Instructor in Maine.
I was thinking about Maine today..spent a summer in bar harbour and revisited a few times.... '89, summer of love
Good comment from parallaxacal. You don't need to overfeed the fire. When your kettle sank in the snow it restricted the air intake hole at the bottom. Keep that hole open, and better, turn it to the breeze and you'll get a blast furnace inside. You won't need to feed as much fuel. Love my Kelley Kettle.
Don't wait for improvements, make them - two small holes drilled in the base, two pieces of steel wire to connect it to the bail holders and you are fine and have what you want !
A happy new year and stay safe
Love my Kelly Kettle been using one for years
Couple of pointers .you need to hold it correctly .hold handle in left hand and hold stopper in right and use chain to control the flow
Also the green stopper is a whistle stopper and will tell you when it boiling the old cork stoppers must not be used when boiling thats why they were changed
Also make sure you buy the stainless steel kits the Alumium ones wont last as long
Finally the Kelly family are great people and still run fishing trips from the lake where this kettle was designed ..it was designed as a fishing kettle
kelly is a good kettle, there is also a uk version called a ghillie kettle which is every bit as good but riveted rather than spot welded, they are repairable in the field, and they have a traditional whistle. both are very good bits of kit.
I looked the Ghillie Kettle up: campingkettle
It looks very good.!!
I considered one for quite awhile. I opted to go with a solo stove and zebra billy pot - The Kelly kettle really is a quality piece of gear, and I suspect I'd have been happy with it. Picking gear is hard even when you've got a bazillion reviews - what works for me, might not work for you. Think about how you do things and if what your looking at would work for you, and maybe even improve your routine.
If you use the solo stove in place of the Kelly kettle firebase, it will boil water even faster
Solo Stove products have never failed me👍💨
@@Skyhanger I'd be a bit surprised since the interface between the kettle and stove would allow heat to escape around the sides - I don't doubt that it would work, I just don't see a mechanism for it being faster. I suppose the Solo stove might burn hotter, but I would expect that to be offset by the heat escaping around the outside.
Either way, I'm pretty happy with the flexibility I get with the Zebra.
@@vincentkeith5259 You are probably right but the double wall, secondary burn design Solo uses is very efficient and still requires very little fuel or time while being more versatile. I'm not knocking this water heater, it looks like a great piece of gear, but the double wall design is something many might want to try in addition or alternatively.
@@pnwcruiser If I had access to both I'd give it a shot. I love the fact that we have as many choices as we do. I think picking at least one of the twig burners is sound strategy - Unless we get hit with the Fero Plague (Horizon Zero Dawn ref) twigs should be plentiful and easy to collect. Except maybe in the desert - then I'd be looking at a solar stove.
I really like mine. Two downsides: It is cumbersome and it's not optimal for melting snow because you have to shove it through it's small opening. The thing it is really good for is canoe camping since volume is not as much an issue it's lightweight and liquid water is all around.
S-hooks, 1/16" steel cable and cable crimps would allow connection of the fire base with the kettle.
Drill 1/8" holes at base edge, run cable through and crimp. Run cable to approximate length/ height of kettle.
Make a small loop and crimp one end of the s-hooks, Leave other end wide enough to hang over the chimney edge. Close enough to hang, but be removable.
Totally agree with Chris. I'm an archaelolgist & have used Kelly Kettles all over the World from Middle to Canada since the 80s.. Even used Camel & sheep shit as fuel. With a little practise, the hobby attachment works well. Word of warning don't use as a water carrier.. I find the stainless steel are best.
Why not as a water carrier? Because it leaks from the top? A rubber membrane underneath the silicone plug held together by a couple of rubberbands or tape should work perfectly.
@@DKFX1 well I suggest you try using it as a water carrier, see how you get on🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelbardill5310 I already did. Just tested it out a few hours ago in fact, works great. This is what you do, take a regular plastic bag, tear it up and fold it so it's double layered, place it on top of the spout and seal it with the rubber plug, now secure it around the spout with either rubber bands or duct tape. Won't leak a single bit.
To avoid burning your paws when lifting the kettle, use two hands to hold the bail in a horizontal orientation and lift the kettle off the base.
Set it aside; then use as normal.
To get a cleaner faster burn you can add a Stainless steel wood gasifer stove in the base pan. They fit perfectly in my Ghillie Kettle "Adventurer" Hard anodised pan set.
I've been using a Kelly Kettle for at least six years. The grill attachment died but everything else works perfectly, and it is really lightweight with a carry bag
Edit: I just remembered mine came was a cork and that was a poor design because the cork plug eventually dried out blackened and basically died
get the silicon cork. I have one.
The new plug is a whistle aswell
Just chiming in with a couple of hacks I found useful for my 2 kettles:
1) if you get some stainless shim stock, you can make a spout extension that slides into the existing pour spout. That way, if you have really topped up the water, and get a roiling boil, it won't burble out, down the side, and into the base, making soup out of your precious coals. Being shim stock, you can still use the stopper too. Alternatively, you can cut a strip of silicon from a grilling mat found in the BBQ sections of most stores that sell BBQ and grilling equipment to make the same thing. Roll it into a ring, and push it into the spout. This has the additional options of being a pot grabber, etc. Just cut it wide enough so that it extends past the base when rolled into a ring and put in the spout. You can opt to remove it when pouring, or leave it in place, though it may dribble a bit when pouring. You won't be able to use the plug at the same time though as the matt material is too thick, but I prefer this option over the shim stock as it is a multi-purpose piece.
2) Make an inner cone out of some 1/2 x 1 fence wire in 16 gage or heavier (most hardware stores offer this in rolls). Opt for stainless if your store offers it, or uncoated. Don't use the galvanized wire fencing, galvanizing turns toxic when heated and off gasses vapors you don't want to be around, let alone any water or food you are preparing can absorb it and toxic or not, will taste horrible. Form the wire fencing to the shape of the inner funnel so that it rests in the base and comes up 1/2 to 2/3 of the height of the kettle. It won't effect feeding or the burn at all, but will hold your fire in place when you remove the kettle to pour or refill it. You can now remove and replace the upper kettle over the fire without the fuel spilling out. It can be used as a stand-alone option with the base to give you a small open camp fire/cook fire too. Both additions can be stored in the kettle itself, so neither present any increase in bulk or storage requirements, but do add a couple extra ounces of weight, though minimally so.
Good, but make a RUclips video(s) of you demonstrating these techniques, you have a special talent, share it with your own personal RUclips channel.!!
i will wait for a version with a clipping in the botton, you don't want to risk the spread of the fire when is windy, or to loose you fire when you turn your water up.
You'll be waiting another 100yrs.
You can also heat water over a gas stove. Another thing is you can use a big candle to keep the water warm after heating. Think out of the box with everything you use. I have 3 of them.
10:35 had me rolling laughing. I love how nonchalant you were making that comment. Love your vids brother. God bless.
The first solution.
Thanks but, here’s my extra idea! You make a faucet by the side of the hot water tank, by welding and the thing is solved. Then you don't have to tilt the container. From above, you add new cold water anyway. Or suggest it to those who make this dish to make it even more ideal and perfect.
You can tell it's the first few times you used it from the way you picked it up off the fire, the handle should be at 90 degrees to the pot and use both hands on the handle, then lift, i guess it was because you had gloves on, but don't ever attempt to pick it up that way without decent heat proof gloves, not unless you want a burnt hand.
Been looking at these for a while. A few design changes I think would be beneficial:
Change the spout to a more horizontal angle - easier to fill and to pour. Put an optional flip cover on the spout.
Have a 1/4 turn thread to lock the base on.
Have two flat straps on the side opposite to the spout with a spring steel handle to clip on to carry and pour the kettle.
horizontal spout the water will boil and easily exit the spout, it has a handle already and if you use it properly there is never too much fuel left to spill by the time the water has boiled
It’s big, but it’s lightweight and you’re effectively carrying the potential for uncontaminated water with minimal fuel and fire footprint.
I have not used one of these but have been aware of them for many years. I think the simplicity of a simple billy can is more than adequate and more versatile.
This looks like a very clever adaptation of a Russian samovar. A samovar (invented somewhere in the mid 18th century) has a little spiggot at the bottom for letting the hot water out, and a little tea pot on the top for brewing a very strong tea. One pours a little tea from the pot into one's cup, and then adds water from the spiggot to taste. Not the sort of contraption that one can easily pack, though.
Well I’ll be damned!
I literally just ordered one of these this past weekend. I ordered it from Kelly Kettle. Sorry Nate. My ex-wife is from Ireland and I saw these things about a dozen years ago. A couple of fishermen were using one on the pier to make tea. They were using the old style aluminum one with the dark wooden handle and the cork stopper. I was told that the originals were made out of tin with a bit of brass and copper.
The trick with using the Kelly Kettle is actually two things. First of all you need to know how to handle it while it is hot. Just lift the handle perpendicular to the kettle and you don’t ever put your knuckles or handle above the chimney o you’ll burn the hell out of yourself. You can also use the stopper and chain as a second point to tilt it and pour the water. The spout is wide mouth because it is meant to be submerged in a clear running stream or cold water lake. It’s meant to be an intake as well as a spout that’s why it’s so wide. The second thing is to know how much to feed it and what kind of wood. Birch is not very good. Lots of smoke and oil, and also not that much heat. It’s great for making birch tar glue though.
. I would go with something else such as Hickory, Locust, oak, Beach, maple, or ash. Cedar, birch, sycamore and pine aren’t very good Unless you are talking about the fat wood of an old pine With all the resin. I’m looking forward to getting my cattle. Can’t wait to try it out with a number of different things and see what works best for me. Great video.
In the 'far north', a hardwood called "Poplar" is the the best firewood for wood stoves, clean burning. Spruce and Pine have too much 'sap' causing residue. Also like you said Birch causes residue too. No wild Maple, Oak, or Ash in the bush as far as I know.
Love the stove.
**But, from my angle it looked like the air intake holes were buried in the snow. Just saying.
** Thank you so much for caring for the prepping community. Because you sell some very well-built gear. Once I bought a fake magnesium fire starter. Thank God I tried it out before I took it into the winter woods. The magnesium would not burn Even if you struck a match to it. Please tell everybody to test their magnesium fire starters, to make sure that it is real magnesium and not a cheap Chinese knockoff.
Keep up the great work!!!
Tar-Zan
I love my Kelly Kettle, not only are they robust, versatile, long lasting, great for SHTF but they are also just very asthetically pleasing and fun to use. Every time I light it I just generally am in a good place mentally and usually somewhere in nature that I thoroughly enjoy so it just fills my head with good thoughts every time I grab it. Would never be without one.
In New Zealand it’s called a thermette made out of copper with a handle on the side for easy pouring John Ashley Hart (1887-1964) - an electrical engineer - invented the thermette in 1929. First advertised for sale in November 1930, Hart patented the thermette in 1931. The 'Picnic Kettle, described as 'a billy and fireplace all in one' and marketed as a 'Wonderful Xmas Present for Dad!', could boil enough water for 12 cups (1/2 a gallon) of tea in five minutes. Potential users included motorists, campers, bach owners, farmers, sportspeople, carpenters, road workers and other outdoor workers, picnickers, and people out fishing. Eight thousand had been purchased by the late 1930s.
Hart was persuaded to waive the patent in WWII, when the New Zealand army began using the thermette in the North African desert. From this usage, the thermette earned its nickname the 'Benghazi Boiler' after the town in Libya. It was also recommnded to New Zealanders on the home front when there was a shortage of gas during the war.
The thermette has remained more or less unchanged since Hart designed it in 1929 and is now celebrated as an example of 'Kiwi ingenuity', originality, and 'No. 8 wire' thinking (even though it is similar to 'volcano kettles' used in Ireland in the mid-19th century).
Nice video.
To me in my area noisy gear is a plus. It alerts bears your coming which keeps them from being surprised by you suddenly at close range. I'll hang a couple items outside my pack intentionally to make noise. While I've seen bears they have been at a distance moving away from me.
Interesting. Thumb up
Never understood the whole bugging out thing...where are you going to bug out to? I guess this would apply to people in cities but I'm out in the woods already. If they come to get me here, they are going to get me anywhere. Additionally, if you're bugging out from the city you just can't bug out to someone else's land...if it's bad enough to have to bug out, EVERYONE is going into security mode and will vehemently defend their land/property/belongings. It would benefit you to have a piece of land with a shelter on it already but again, that would be called vacationing, not bugging out. If you have your bugout bag on your back and your walking the land like in the Walking Dead, camping at night and catching your own food...good for you, but that is not sustainable for too long cause again, you're going to walk across the wrong persons land and they are going to take it personal. Add a kid or two, or heavens forbid your wife, into the mix- How long is walking the land going to last? Are we there yet? Is this the biggest tent you could have bought? What do you mean there's no toilet paper? You want me to eat what? After a while you'd probably just beg for a roving group of marauders, a zombie or a bear to come along and put you out of your misery!
I'm a country person myself I'd be polite enough to go to the person and ask if I could set up a camp and maybe help with small things as I'm very crippled up in exchange for food and a camp site for me and my group
I’ll never understand this getting all twisted up because someone walks on “my land”. Selfish, stingy bastards every single “gotta post my property” one of them. And yes I own land. Come on it and treat it with respect and you’re welcome. Let’s live and let live folks.
If you own land, it will be taken by the gov, whoever is invading the nation, or people bugging out. If you set up a fortress on your land it will happen sooner. It's better to know how to survive a year or greater traveling only at night, and leaving no trace.
If you own land, it will be taken by the gov, whoever is invading the nation, or people bugging out. If you set up a fortress on your land it will happen sooner. It's better to know how to survive a year or greater traveling only at night, and leaving no trace.
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Nate or anyone reading this--does this work similar to a samovar, if you're familiar with their internal makeup? If so, awesome! I have a couple samovars--one is quite huge, and the other more portable. I originally bought them for decorative purposes. I've never considered using them, although they have their working parts. In normal situations, a teapot on the stove is all that's needed in the morning.
For those who don't know, samovars are typically used in more social situations --historically samovars were for lots of tea drinking for the Russian aristocracy, but in an STHF, one or both of them might come in handy.
Thanks for this video! I think your videos help people realize that they may already have some preps on hand if they just reimagine an item's use.
It's basically a wood-fuelled samovar with a conic pipe and no tap. The cone may be an improvement, though the lack of a tap probably isn't.
I love my Kelly Kettle! It boils water so fast with very little fuel.
Your southern neighbor in the PNW thanks you for this video. Perfect companion for our local neighbor that manufacturers MH. Looking forward to putting it through it's paces while the winter weather is full effect.
Looks like a worthy device but people might want to look at the more versatile double walled wood burning stoves which feed heated combustion air into a secondary combustion zone (very efficient, little fuel required). The Solo Stove is a well made example, but there are other brands as well as no name models. I used a different brand employing the same principle for years while backpacking and it worked amazingly well. Being accustomed to gas canister and liquid fuel backpacking stoves I almost didn't try it, because it sounded like a crazy idea, but after a little experience I never used anything else on the trail. Larger designs are available from Solo and others.
The stove base can be secured to the ground, drill a couple of small holes and fasten down with tent pegs, make a pot stand that slots on the top ( two pieces that form a cross ), and you can cook on it. I think you can buy them now, but I made one years ago. Only downside, they're a bit bulky. Good video 👍, best wishes for the new year 🇬🇧🇨🇦
After watching at least 10 prepper videos I immediately went online and order the full campset of Kelly kettle amazing item everyone should own one.
It needs a fixed handle on the back side so it can be lifted without burning your hand like with the current handle right over the fire.
A great bit of kit, had one for years and still going strong.
I bought mine about 5 years ago for when SHTF. Best kit, ever!
Having used gas, petrol, paraffin and methylated spirit stoves, the Kelly Kettle is a must have for extended or vehicle based trip. The only downside is the overall size.
Easily lifted using the chain and handle, and any fire spillage risk is negated by using shorter sticks. They burn faster, and therefore cleaner, which means a cleaner kettle and faster boil.
Have used anything dry and combustible, from dried dung, to twigs, and pine cones.
I keep the kettle in a plastic tool box which allows me to keep a tobacco tin of tinder ready with it, and enough fuel for one boil up.
Any small scrap from my workshop goes into the Kelly Kettle fuel store.
For day trips a lightweight gas stove is more convenient, but I can't think how anyone buying a Kelly Kettle would be disappointed.
"This very well could be the end of the species. Enjoy the days. Enjoy the good times while they last."
He's not just Whistlin' Dixie.
Happy Holidays, Nate (&, to your family).
"This may well be the peak of the human species" - as he calmy eats his scrambled eggs with a slight grin. Let the good times roll Nate!
Fire box has some great add ons too if we're comparing the extras. I would say get both. With both you may not have to get the biggest Kelly with a titanium fire box. Could cook for any number of people especially if adding a mengrill Afghan pressure cooker. All the makers are so humble and amazing people.
I want to bring up a product I don't see preppers show on their channels often. It's basically a flammable twine coated in bees wax that potheads wrap around bic lighters. It's meant to limit lighter fumes when you smoke weed as a health alternative. Buy at smoke shops. One flick from the lighter ignites the end of the twine and you extend the life of your lighter fuel during fire starting. I have this combo in my survival kit.
Shane Hollis
~Yes, Beeswax coated (100% organic) rolled Hemp twine (Hemp Wick). It is used because breathing butane fumes from cigarette lighters (when lighting pipes and joints) into the lungs is harmful. Yes it also saves (extends) lighter fuel.
But also a great idea when used for camping, thank you for the idea.
They are great, had one for years and made my own top piece for frying out of chequer plate which breaks down and fits inside.
If all you have is grass/leaves/lichen etc this thing will cook your dinner, you will never run out of fuel.
This is an awesome little kettle I can see how this kettle could improve the situation a lot if in a bad situation even just sipping on hot or warm water will bring up your internal body temperature which will save your life thanks a lot for teaching me about this cool kettle I will be getting 2 of these for sure 👍👍💯💯
We have an antique copper Kelly kettle (thermette). It has a proper spout and a fixed handle on the back so it’s much easier to pour. Your modern one looks really awkward to use.
Thank You for showing this. I bought the full Kelly Kettle kit right after viewing your video.
I'm a little jealous of your beaver throw. I need to get me one of those !
To me, the peak of our species was when I first made Timmy Ho's over a campfire.
Nothing better than a double double 5 hrs from the nearest Timmies.
I hope you have a safe and happy New Year. May 2022 bring positive change for our beautiful country, and this wondrous ball of life we call earth.
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Brings back good ole memories, grandad had one when I was a young lad, he took it on every hunting trip or just when working on the farm. Very popular here in the United Kingdom at the time probably still is, he called his the hillbilly belly warmer 😂
I think that I'll be adding one of these to my kit. I can see lots of opportunities for modifications. I'm guessing that you could fill the "pot" chamber with sand to turn it into a heater. You may even be able to add a type of chimney with the right diameter pipe. Great video
I think you would burn the inside chamber out of it Trying to use it as a heater with sand in it.
If you do it, please upload a video because there's no video on RUclips of people using these without water for a prolonged time. It would be amazing if they could burn without water, but I don't want to risk mine by testing it, because I'm a poor student and don't have ressources to buy a new one.
With a micro solar powered fan that JUST fits the pour tube for heat distro!
You can pick it up with handle perpendicular to the kettle.. and once you have boiled water one time you will know how long it takes so next time you can estimate the amount of wood to throw in there..
Not currently an owner but did order one 4-5 years ago and gave it to a prepper friend, she had 3 kids (2 are now adults) to provide for, I feel good knowing they have that extra safety…
Looks like as good as some say it is; based on your demo. It would add variety to my cooking tools. I like to have a variety of equipment to meet my needs or situations.
Like your assessment of the Kettle. Needs some tweaking like a mesh holder for the sticks you put in the top because once you use it you have to dump out what's burning and start all over to boil more water. 🇺🇸👍❤
Not really because he wasn't using it properly and over feeding it, you are suppose to feed from the hole in the bottom and not fill up the kettle chamber much like you would a "rocket stove".
It uses minimal wood to create a high draft and make an efficient burning stove which is why he was getting so much black smoke. Hell he could burn some really pitchy pine in that and get barely any smoke.
Those things are awesome! VERY well designed and constructed. For those of us that are mechanically inclined, and handy out in the shop...One can fashion pretty useable little stove units out of nothing more than tin cans. Rocket stoves are definitely the most efficient and clean burning. But Wood Gas stoves work quite well too...and can be constructed out of nothing more than a couple of tin cans (though a stainless steel construction would be MUCH longer lasting).
I was enamoured with this design from the first time I viewed it. I ended up buying 4 of the camp size units in stainless steel & gave 3 of them as gifts. If there is room in the pack & you'll be cooking for more than 2 people, this is a must have.
I’ll stick with my OmnilightTi and my titanium wood stove BUT…these things have been around forever, very good choice and I would get one if I didn’t already have some. 🤩
That's just a re-invention of the Samovar kettle that's been around for thousands of years.
A small note is that you can use this without the base in a normal camp fire. Just place 2 flat rocks or thick branches with a gap between them so the bottom isn't sitting on the coals and put fuel down the chimney as normal, that way when it boils you just lift it out of the fire and any unburnt fuel falls into the fire pit. Works fine that away. My dad used to have something similar to this decades ago and we always used it that way.
I've had the large KK for over six years now. A friend that was an Airforce sere instructor told me about these. FYI, 4 or 5 charcoal briquets will boil water in 2 minutes in this. Thumb up.
Appreciate the honesty of the stove demo. The longer I watched this video, the dumber the idea of this stove became. 😀( burning wood falls out the bottom of you pick it up, “it fell over,” the way it could explode if it had a screw on cap😀😀😀, it does a bad job of cooking stuff on it top, also seemed easy to burn your hand if you weren’t really careful.)
His presentation was obviously very green with this kettle. They are actually very good once you have some practice and a system with them. I have all 3 sizes. Never been burnt or knocked one over.
The pot support is generally just a preheat using that lost heat.
Generally they boil too fast to cook much ontop on the first boil, but if your boiling your second batch in group senarios, or water purification. its more efficent, and you can start with hot water in your pot. And by the time it boils a second time your well under way and can continue to cook on your hobostove over the coals.
CP, how long does it take to start the 1.6 litres boiling? Thanks!
3-5 minutes, according to kelly kettle.
@@TheGastropodGamer thanks!
@@Mrs.LadeyBug no problem
@@TheGastropodGamer I got one in any case!!
Wearing mismatched gloves is actually a good idea. That way you don't get confused over which hand to scratch your butt with. I find it works great for my purposes.
Had mine for years. Awesome bit of kit. Not read the comments so don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but to lift it without burning your hands, take a hold of the handle whilst still at its lower position and use the chain to lift the kettle at a tilt. That way, your hands never go above the actual flame. Admittedly I do have one of the smaller versions, but it should work for all versions.
I just saw your videos about equipment that lasts forever. In this context, I can recommend the Trangia oven. These have been around for almost a hundred years in an unchanged form and burn ethanol / alcohol (which you could make yourself as a prepper). Small, cheap and lasts forever
Everybody looks at me like i'm crazy, when I tell them "These ARE the Good Old Days " !! Happy to hear you say it too !
Thank you for your review.
The last 50 years i have been using them all. The foldable fireboxes. And also the Kelly Kettle.
But for me the product that really stands out is the Biolite. Don't get me wrong. Every products has its downs. I could not appreciate the Kelly Kettel. The things that you told are correct. And with some minimal effort they could correct those things.
The Biolite boils water very quicly. And also a very good way to cook your meal. Also it can give you some elecrical juice for all of your USB powered products. That is a nice thing. Alhough i did not buy it for that function. But became quicly a fan of that.
You have to become a little bit experienced with it. Cause you can overfill it very quicly. And you have to constantly filling it with wood. I learned that after i had prepared my food that without the kettle onto it i coukd use larger and thicker sticks. Used some metal wire above the biolite so sticks with a lenght of 30 cm will stay op right. In this way you can easily let it burn for 2 hours so your powerbank is fully charged. And also you can benefit from the heat radiation. This Biolite would be handson my pick in a apocalyptic situation. Also because there is hardly any smoke. But please to all. Be aware that being hungry will bring someones senses really up. So the smell of food can be picked up from a great distance by others. Where people in a "normall" situation would not even think about of doing something crazy can become a completely different matter when there is hunger involved. 95 percent of the people you will encounter won't be prepared. And seeing someone with a little but very effective gear can bring very dark thoughts into their minds. Please be aware of these things. It is not a bad thing to help someone out. It really is not. But try to be very logicall but also listen to your vibe. Cause there is one major rule when you are finally in this situation. Being injured and hurt will downgrade the chance of you own survival greatly. Think in advance about everything you will be doing. And learn to avoid.
I've had one of those for years. Use only half as much fuel as you think you'll need. If you're doing dishes or need a lot of water, this is your tool. Good for base camp or a power outage situation.
I’ve got the Base camp model and have used it for years trouble free, I’ve just bought the Stainless slightly smaller Trekker but haven’t used it yet , . I bought the Trekker for my BOB.
I've had mine for 10 years. It's been everywhere with me. 3 weeks on the West Coast and not a Single problem..
A Kelly Kettle has been on my list for a long time, and I finally took the plunge and bought one recently. Have to say it loves upto its reputation, it is hands down one of the best pieces of kit. I got the Ultimate Base Camp Kit, for under £85 with free shipping from Camping World here in the UK, and it arrived within 24 hours. I'm beyond impressed with it so far! I'd recommend it to anyone 👍🏼
As for attaching the base to the top, what about using a large hose clamp around the top and one on the bottom? With some creativity, you could use some steel wire and a few a bits of random hardware (something hook like) to rig up a quick disconnect that would temporarily hold the 2 parts together.
Basically, the hose clamps would hold the attachment points for the wire.
You could also use the bottom hose clamp to incorporate some legs for stability.
The Kelly Kettle is a great bit of kit. I live in the UK and have had mine for years. Highly recommended!
I like the look of this. I recently bought a couple of boxes of butane canisters for my little camping gaz stove(just in case) now for the same money I could have one of these nifty sets with the "hobo" stove etc.
Some of us old folks know how to deal with things without clips. Kellies are great to have even if you just need hot water in small bursts.
Ahhh, once again, I can say, "I already have that." Thanks for youe work. Keep breathin'.
When I was in the Royal Marines, we had a similar kettle that we called a Volcano. Same idea and very efficient. We used to put a lump of plastic explosive in as fuel, light it and it boiled in seconds. The heat off burning PE is intense, the trick is knowing how much to use.😁😁😁
Just like cellulose, what guitar picks are made of is highly flammable for starting a campfire for cooking food and boiling water.
I appreciate that you're very honest and thorough with your reviews even though you're selling the product on your website. Thanks.
I don’t know if I would replace my Stanley cooker or Nalgene bottle. But I bet this heats up 10x easier in -20 and colder weather. Amazing design you could pair with another cooking setup. A little breeze in cold weather sucks that heat away in a normal wood box