Good job getting the audio and yes there is a total reason why he’s saying “lads relax” because if one gets emotional it could cost not just one but the whole dive team their lives
I mean in this context the "lads relax" is more about the fact that like he says earlier there are about 30 people in that room, with Russians and interpreters, so what he means by that is "wait until we can figure out what to do next". That being said it's true that they have to be relaxed to not overwhelm their rebreathers.
I did not learn till much later. But It was actually Admiral Popov who went overruled Vladimir Putin who was President at the time as well to finally except foreign aid. Now we will never know for sure but it would not be so hard to believe that the surviving crew of the initial explosion might have had a more then a fair chance if they excepted help earlier on. This is because the Norwegian 🇳🇴 dive team was on Standby and was consistently told to stand down. We can see how old munitions, poor maintenance and bad judgement went into the Kursk. But what about kindness and humanity? Because it looks like today we can see that back then all this mean To Vladimir Putin was just some really bad PR!
@@Greippi10 haha there not using rebreathers mate. they have unlimited gas. they are surface supplied. hes telling them to relax becasue they have just worked out the valve was open when they got there. meaning it had been opened from inside already in an escape attempt. and that there would be no one alive inside. so don't hurry. it was the point where the job turned from rescue to recovery. the primary objective was now completed. they had to discuss the new plan, so the divers where told to wait. happens all the time. you can be 100m underwater just sitting on a pipe twideling your thumbs for an hour waiting for further instructions.
thanks to the internet, we can see the material that was recorded after the disaster, 20 years later. this feels like classified material, not meant to be seen by an audience. thank you for sharing that with us
For what I just saw on the video, I don't see anything that would be considered CLASSIFIED. Now as far as the nuclear part of it, absolutely, I would not show anyone the video except the Russian Government and their military.
@@craigbosko2229 well i would take a bet and say that the russian would argue that the screw used and seen in the video, can give clues, as well as valves and what not. all that could be considered as clues to some, that could be used for sabotage.. like: if the "enemy" knows, that use bolts of type A, those are weak to XY, they could use that- information typ of classified. tho i think thats overreacting, the cold war was over by that point
@@alltehstuffs I think you mistake casualties for deaths. Ukraine has lost many times more than that. And so DPR/LPR are Russian now? They're about 40% of the force fighting. It's good that you confirmed DPR and LPR is Russian and does not belong to Ukraine.
@@CyrilSneer123 for your enlightening, Ukraine is a independent and sovereign nation, and will stay so, never mind if megalomaniac RuZZian Nazis like it or not! ❤️🔥🇺🇦SLAVA UKRAINI🇺🇦❤️🔥
Was a police dispatcher for a time, you used to have to develop "radio ear" which I can best describe as an ability to accurately interpret partial words and distorted noises based on responses/information that should be expected. The ear it must take to communicate effectively with these divers under the effects of helium is insane xD
Human brains are capable of amazing abilities in communication. My uncle was deployed to Korea and roomed with a Morse code operator - the Morse guys could recognise each other's "hands" when sending dots and dashes, in the way that we can recognise accents over the phone.
Believe it or not when you have your 'helium ears' on you get so used to it (and very quickly) you can still tell regional accents, you can tell who is speaking to you with your back turned to them. Some supervisors would turn off the helium Comms descrambler and listen directly to the divers raw Comms without compensation too, some find it easier like that. But diver to diver in a saturation system you actually forget your speaking like that and chat normally and understand everything. I once called my then girlfriend from a porthole on mobile phone, my mother in law answered, she replied "I don't know who this is but it's not very funny!"" And promptly hung up on me. On the occasion I did speak with my wife she was pretty good at understanding, difficult but we would get by. It is actually harder for someone on surface air to understand someone on HeO2 but two diver both on heliox understand eachother no problem, even if the person on air is a seasoned sat diver. So it's definitely something to do with how the brain compensates. Incidentally I was working for Subsea 7 when they took part in the Salvage of the Kursk.
The most important secret to newer submarine stealth is revealed in the first few images ; the propeller has sub fins on the tip of the shaft to reduce noise and cavitation.
I remember this so well. It breaks my heart that some of the sailors could have been saved if Russia had accepted help immediately when it was offered. You did what you could. Well done.
My heart breaks knowing that those poor sailors died a terrible death because their government chose to protect the security of the sub over using the best options to save those men. Underpaid, poorly trained, living in slums, those Sailors deserved better. I am sure they were proud to serve in that elite service but that service was not rewarded by the Kremlin.
The Khazarian Oligarchs were so busy looting Russia, and few understand that was orchestrated by Rockefeller's and Rothschild's Agents who were stealing trillions... Now Russia has driven them out.... That includes the traitor Gorbachev, who will not receive a State Burial for his crimes...
@@alexanderfederowicz When dealing with "greed" I would consider almost any claim to be true but your assertions are beyond believable. In the 80's when R. Reagan became president the United States was 4 trillion dollars in debt. NOT trillions and trillions!! And where did you get your information about Rockefeller and the Rothschild's stealing trillions from the then U.S.S.R., from a Russian corrupt education system. At that time, during the 80's the Ruble was worthless on the open market and Communist U.S.S.R.'s economy was in the tank. If Rockefeller or the Rothschild's were to steal anything it would be the U.S. dollar and NOT a worthless Ruble. And Gorbachev understood this. That is why when the two leaders met in Iceland (as I recall the two met in Iceland to discuss nuclear arms reduction) Gorbachev was willing to seriously reduce nuclear arms in exchange for the Reagan Administration NOT IMPLEMENTING Star Wars. I have a great deal of respect for Premier Gorbachev even though the path he chose to try and bolster U.S.S.R.'s economy failed which caused the complete collapse of the Soviet Communist system of governing. In other words I could care less if you hate Gorbachev but I might suggest you find a different teacher, someone who is more interested in imparting the truth about world events during that period of time or get a teacher who understands "economics" and can teach you that.
I think Putin has made it clear that he doesn't give a shit about his people, just as his people clearly don't give a shit about anyone else. Caring only about oneself is what Moskal culture is all about.
The part that made me sad was the fact that the men wrote letters to their loved ones telling them their fate was that death would overtake them in the sub. Just imagining how it felt to be submerged knowing you faced certain death is just paralyzing. All those young men lost. Just a tragedy.
Russia's Governments have always been ruled by paranoia, lies, cover ups and denial of facts/information. No maintenance of anything, the list goes on and on. Those sailors may have died anyway, but surely by their criminal government refusing to actually do anything to help them. Bye the time Russia asked for help, those men were already dead. Many more of them have suffered the same fate over many decades for the same sick attitudes of the people in command...
Thanks for posting this Paal. Have got plenty of salvage media from back in the day after the initial dives but have never seen your lock out video. Kudos to you all, very sad event. Rip
May God have Mercy on the Souls of these Sailors. I was attached to two Knox Class Frigates as a former US Navy Sonar Technician during the 70's and 80's. The Soviet ballistic submarine threat was very real during the Cold War, and I spent hours on watch acquiring and tracking submarines of many types. It was a game of 'Cat and Mouse' at the time because no 'state of war' existed between the Soviets and our Allies. Many military personnel on both sides were lost during 'war games' and a 'state of readiness' in these dangerous times, even though an uneasy Peace existed. Considering the current situation in Ukraine, apparently we have not learned much from this experience. Nothing has changed. The Cold War never ended. Now my grandchildren carry the torch...
Strange seeing this , my dad was in hospital with cancer when this happened. He'd been a submariner , udm diver , member of the end , the last conversation we had , was about this. I asked " ,wat do you think?. Dad just looked at me and said one word:,"dead' if the Russians had been open about this , asked for help immediately, some of those lads could've been saved. Rip guys
In any event, the Russian rescue teams were poorly equipped and badly organised, while foreign teams and equipment were far away and not given permission to assist.[5]: 143-145 [64] It is unlikely that any rescue by either Russian or foreign specialists could have arrived and reached the sub in time to rescue any survivors
Just the rusty, battered state of that hatch alone was all you needed to know about the maintenance regime. Something tells me the Royal Navy doesn't let its submarine hatches look like that. What was the chain gadget the diver was tapping?
Not sure I’ve seen the chain yet, and he’s not wrong. If maintenance is done properly hatches shouldn’t be looking like that. I’m speaking from experience here. But if you have a poor nation, well…. It is what it is.
@@SuperDylanhall This is a video from soon after it sank, not one made 20 years after, they already raised the hull and took it to Russia to be scrapped decades ago.
@@iamwealthy2242 no there were practically nobody cabable besides them onto the area was monitored the entire time so nobody could have gotten there secretly
Actually I am not surprised, it would be standard practice to have that open, how would you possibly equalise from the inside if it wasn't open. The fact there was two hatches would be the failsafe against valve failure/damage (and the valve was recessed to protect it from knocks). So on both inner and outer hatches I would expect the external side to be open already.
Such a tragic loss of life I feel for the divers having to go through a tough dive and not get the outcome so many hoped for god bless all the dive team and surface team for their selfless bravery and may the 118 lost souls rest in peace 🕊
Paal , I feel I speak for all the good people of this earth, when I say Good Job. Though your teams were not able to rescue any crewmen, you did what few persons would be able and willing to do. Our prayers were with you and your teams, as well as with the trapped crewmen. Hopefully this will highlight the futility of armed nuclear war and someday we will all be at peace.
The nuclear war had nothing to do with this the ineptitude of the Russian navy was to blame and not allowing rescue vessels to do there job I know for a fact that the us navy has at the west cost and east coast a rescue submarine that can be brought to anywhere in the world in 24hrs an can bring 24 survivors out at a time to a depth of round 5000 feet please do ur research before u make a comment bout a tragedy like this one and just to be clear the crew could have free swam up to the surface using special gear they have on board the sub they decided not to because of water temperature at the surface an the navy not looking for them
Tactical nuclear weapons aren't large enough to cause world freezing, crop killing, nuclear winter. Nor is the land unusable for a hundred years, that's a myth. They just blow armies off the map and their puppet leader with them. And don't anybody at me, because Zel wants the war to go nuclear not Putin. 🐻👩💼🇺🇸⚒️🇷🇺
No that valve should be open, there would be no way of equalising from the inside otherwise. Both inner and outer hatches would have the external valve fully open for that reason.
It must have killed the guy giving out directions and kissing arse to the Russians while they left these poor sailors to die in there over pride and pig-headedness n not asking for help.. These divers and crew did an amazing job to get these men home.. Rip kursk
If you actually do your research you would find that they were all dead within 6 hours of the explosion and Kursk wasn't expected to surface until then and that radio comms were frequently going down. It wasn't until the Kursk was expected to surface did they realise something was wrong. And that was about 6 hours after the explosion. In this video the crew of the Kursk was already dead.
@@CyrilSneer123 I have done my research, my comment was not about the time it took the men to perish rather the stubborn Russian leaders who knew she was down and did nothing to help by reaching out.. regardless of country in a maritime disaster all available ships of any country can assist but the Russians said no. But can you imagine the hell those men went thru in 6 hrs. This was a tragedy, period
an excellent video to show people who have no idea about what we do under water and how slow everything happens. lots of explaining, lots of people trying to talk at once, lots of things going on onboard the supervisor is trying to deal with as well as talk to the divers. everything takes ages when you have very little information about the thing you are working on. the best plans always go out the window when you put that bucket on your head.
@@freelectron2029 I’ve done saturation diving, sir. I am a trained cave diver, certified NSSCDS. You still need decos with trimix and a bell. Not to mention the hours you’re going to spend in the chamber. 🖖🏼😎🤙🏼
@@scubaguy007 hahaha this is commercial saturation diving. you dont quite understand the meaning of being saturated. you have not done this. you dont know. very easy to tell when someone is pretending to know about the thing you do for a living. we dont use trimix. you dont spend hours in the chamber. you spend weeks in a habitat. sorry pal. go back to scuba fan club. congrats on your recreational diving hobby. but this is big boys stuff mate. not kiddy diving.
@freelectron2029 Well, Mr. I know more than you. These guys are driving Trimix, and you can hear it in his high-pitched tone of his voice. Plus, these are military drivers, which is a bit divergent than commercial driving. They have deco chambers on the ship. I am very familiar with navy diving. Very familiar. So don't act all high and mighty, I have done saturation trimix diving wrecks off North Carolina, Brunswick Georgia, and way off the coast of the Keys. Nothing deeper than 220 feet, but those dives required lots of deco at a few levels with at least a hour on 80% O2 at 15 feet. I know what I'm taking about so you?
@@scubaguy007 omfg. mate. shut up. you are clueless. I AM A SAT DIVER. I DO THIS FOR A LIVING. i know who these guys are. i know this vessel. i know this dive system. just stop talking mate. these are not military divers. they are not breathing trimix. they are breathing heliox. we dont deco in chambers. we live in saturation. no one decos until the job is finished or 28 days is up. just stop talking mate. go pretend to be hard somewhere else where the people you are talking to arent the real deal. i called you out on your garbage and thats what your going to get when you walk into a room of ACTUAL divers pretending to know what your talking about.go and impress some scuba kiddys with your BS. bye now. off you go.
It still angers me that the Russians sat on their thumbs until it was too late to save the crew. If Russia hadn't been so paranoid about secrecy, international rescue teams could have effected a DSRV rescue sooner. Such an unnecessary waste of life
It was just at the beginning of a glasnost/perestroika and they were still in full 'Soviet' mode. They only started to reveal the extent of the accident when the mothers of the sailors started turning up demanding to know what had happened to their sons.
What do you mean beats they were the only ones holding out hope?!? They knew they were gone this was the British dive master and the Norwegian rescue sub 🇳🇴
Thanks for posting that, I worked on the Mayo and not seen that video before, I think your on the Eagle on this dive, 'on at the bottle, off at the hat' 👍
When those men went down, Putin was in full arse-covering mode. First they denied it had sunk, then when NATO said "Yes, it blew up, we saw and heard it happen." Then the NATO Navies (Royal Navy and Norwegian Navy offered to help (every sailor's first enemy is the sea after all) and Putin and his lackeys said that they were already rescuing them.. no Russian rescue ever came for them. The notes that Dmitri Kolesnikov (a survivor of the initial blasts) wrote in the dark, trapped, waiting to die whilst Putin's stooges were saying that the Kursk was 'fine' when they and everyone outside of Russia knew it wasn't, are heartbreaking to read. Admiral Mikhail Motsak the fleet commander who Putin later decided should be the scapegoat for the fate of the Kursk even though he was just planning the exercises using torpedos that Moscow sent him and told him were perfectly functional, released those notes after divers (Russian Navy didn't even have their own sat divers) recovered the bodies of Kolesnikov and his comrades who died in that room, just as they feared they would. After news broke in Russia days later, after all hope for those men was lost, Putin tried to save face by accepting British and Norwegian help far too late. Putin lies, and everyone dies.
I think they did of course know but they expected to find this valve fully closed but were rather surprised to find it was open when they got there. They really weren't expecting that. With very few exceptions, valves close clockwise.
I was surprised they seemed to be trying that at first, it's an equalisation valve, you would expect it to be open because there's no way of equalising from the inside otherwise. Both inner and outer hatches I would expect to see both external valves fully open. Don't forget in the moment with a lot of eyes on you it's quite obvious to miss the obvious, the supervisor said there was about 30 in the control room. And it's also quite possible that the Russian engineers wanted to absolutely see for themselves that the valve was already fully open as one would expect before trying it the other way. I can think of a couple of reasons why too 😉
If I understand this correctly, the submarine is in 400+ feet deep, the submarine was 400 + feet long which meant if the sub was disabled straight up and down you would still see the props and rudder sticking out above the waters surface., kinda crazy
I worked out that the US Ohio class, if stood up in our central city district, would be one of the biggest buildings, like, about 50 floors. Crazy is the word.
@@klhaldane absolutely, I never realized the size of those nuke subs, obvioulsy the Kursk explosion was catastrophic but without the front half missing straight up and down. The crew could have walked up many flights of stairs to get out.....
Man it takes some serious balls to dove down in the pitch black cold waters without climbing on a wounded nuke fish , a Russian one at that. About to open a valve/hatch and don’t know if water is going to rush into a room that had no water, or something
Would they have even been able to open the hatch?, as it opened outwards, until the pressures had equalized, like trying to open a car door after submersion in a lake or river i imagine. My concern would have been if one of them poor Russian submariners, floating up at me as the hatch opened. Such a shame that the Russian higher-ups have such extremely low opinion and their even lower regard in the value of their military service personnels lives. Can't even say it had anything to do with pride etc, as they could maybe have had a Russian operative aboard the diving bell, watching eagle eyed over every move, instead of aboard the rescue vessel at sea level, or wherever they were. Such a tragedy for those 118 brave men, R.I.P. And major kudos to the divers who tried to get to them in the end, Must be some special diving suits, to carry their massive cajones in there..
@@d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f well said, but I don’t think they could have put a Russian in the bell. They’re insanely cramped. They were up top, and that was close enough. Russian officers could eff up a wet dream.
It's hard to say what's being recorded. If it's the raw audio the the helium effect will be strong. The communication equipment has a dial that can adjust the pitch to make "helium voices" much clearer to the listener. It's possible that that clarification could be after the recorded voice. So the handlers on the surface may have a much clearer sound.
seeing that giant propeller at the beginning of the video triggered my submechanophobia real quick. Even though the sub is dead in the water, there's always that part of me that would have fear of it starting up and slicing up any diver near it.😨
@Paul Gerald The scary thing is that screw design (props, propellers, whatever) Are a matter of National Security. Passive sonar and acoustics can identify a ship or submarine by it’s wake so to speak. Active sonar, like the, ‘ping’ you see or hear in movies (loud enough underwater to kill people and animals) is only useful to indentify passive assets like mines.
@Pleasureincontempt I would even postulate that diffuse signals from satellites are utilized under the, ‘deep scattering layer’ formerly known as the, ‘ECR layer’.
19:02 I was just wondering if Diver 1 (Tony) said "Those are human beings trapped in there" in a moment of frustration of having to wait? if so, that is a powerful moment in this video. He did not say "Russians".....he said human beings. It hits home at the frustration they must have felt throughout the entire ordeal because all the dive team wanted to do was help their fellow human beings. 😪
Such a shame. Russia is a 2nd world nation, masquerading as a 1st world nation, and all those sailors suffered the consequences. The sea will never give up their souls.
@@smokeonthewater5287 This is false. The crew in the 9th compartment died after about 6 hours. They were running low on oxygen so they tried to fire up a potassium superoxide chemical oxygen cartidge that generates oxygen but it fell into the oily water (prob because they were starved of oxygen) and this ignited a fire that swallowed up the rest of the oxygen killing the rest of them in seconds. There might have been some hope of rescuing them but after the chemical fire there was no hope and by the time the rescue divers reached them they were all dead.
@@CyrilSneer123 This is a convenient story created by the military to relieve responsibility. Tapping sounds were detected for days while the botched rescue attempt was being prepared.
As noticed by the names of diving crews, Norwegians were also involved in the operation, to my knowledge Dutch experts took part as well. Otherwise Wikipedia has enlightening details
@@OmmerSyssel yes the rescue ship, was made up of Norwegians' British and Dutch, , i believe the Russians had a rescue sub, but it was on lease doing tours of the titanic wreck ?
SO the Russian NAVY uses the same garden hose valves I use on the outside of my house, not high-tech stainless or bronze. Something that can handle constant exposure to salt water.
That is incredible, i have watched the dive on the estonia and the bodies them divers had to push passed, to get the bridge. I hope they get counselling and therapy to deal with all this work
@@waynerafferty1048 why should experienced offshore divers need counseling for doing their work? Are you unaware of handling dead bodies is normal part of this sort of qualified job? Ever offered a butcher or a nurse your special interest?
If the Russian sailors had any chance before the rescue efforts met with the impassable valve, they were certainly dead by the time committee figured out "some idiot left this open"
That was only the equalization valve for the first air lock, a Room about 6 feet tall and 3 ft round. The actual door to the interior of the sub was at the bottom of that little room.
When you here a voice like that, you know their extraordinarily deep, wouldnt surprise me if they had to get rig divers to do it,only ones who could i suppose, shame really as we know now they could have got down to the survivers and placed the bell on top...just had a eeby jeeby moment, imagine that lump hammer bouncing back and going through his viewing screen...
350 ft. here is not in the least "extraordinary deep" for commercial or military divers. These are saturation divers working out of a bell chamber at depth. The Helium mix allows them to work for extended periods. Depends upon the working depth & duration of tasks. In fact this is rather shallow compared to what they're used to. Some routinely work beyond 1000 ft.
@@Corentinbes I guess the diving helmet just has really bad accoustics, I was more wondering what he was saying because at the point I marked in the video the diver suddenly starts being very vague and the reply from the operator is also very vague, it seems like they were talking about something that they did not want to be recorded. I mean the part were the operator says "yep you got that right" after the diver asks some question.
That’s when they realized that the previous attempts By the Russian divers, Who would have/should have known the submarine in an out, had already flooded the compartment from The outside with that valve. They’re making the sickening discovery that, amongst all the other lies the Ruskie government told, that they had been lied to as well. They knew good and well that there were no survivors. They made sure they were dead before they allowed assistance from Western countries.
I think at this point they must of realised there's zero pressure from that valve, so obviously the hull is flooded and all sailors are lost. That's why he was asking him to rotate it clock and anti-clockwise just to see if the valve had threaded and was inoperable.
Wouldnt you wanna bang on the outside of the hull? Or not because it was double hulled or what? Im confused on why he would bang right there, to me it seems like one of the worst spots you could bang, but im not a rescue diver so idk lol
Not sure what its full loadout was on that training mission, but this class of submarine primarily carries Granit hypersonic anti ship missiles with conventional warheads designed to destroy US supercarriers.
Extraordinary footage. I think it is obvious now in 2022 that Russia sees its own people as an expendable commodity. These sailors were sacrificed to save face. Just as in Ukraine where civilian conscripts are being fed into a meat grinder to try and stop the top guy looking like a failure.
I expect it to be open, it's an external equalisation valve, so to equalise from inside it would always need to be open. On both the inner and outer hatches.
Rest In Peace Shipmates. If only Russia had acted quicker, these men could have been saved. I went to Sub School and all I can think about is that these Submariners were together. No other explanation would suffice.
We need to design and build a very large and long ROV submersible that can clasp the tail of submarines. The ROV then does its party trick: It becomes a giant inflatable, like a underwater unfolding satellite but gas and airbags. Once the sub is at 50ft, the chances of survival and rescue are good. Plus salvage is possible. I think even a private enterprise could make money from such an invention by assisting all nations.
Okay number one, this is utterly fascinating. I had no idea this video even existed. Secondly though, I don't understand the importance behind turning this valve. Obviously I know they're doing it for a very important reason, I just don't know what that reason is and I wish I did.
the big black flat ring surface is the area where a rescue diving bell seats on. To enable both the diving bell and submarine to open their hatches for crew to transfer, the water in that space needs to be pumped out or blown out by air. That valve is there to do that, so the diving bell will be pushed against the sub to seal it. I have been involved in X-raying the welds on the exact type of valve on a sub. It can also be that that valve is a clockwise to open type. I have seen water drain valves like that on starter air tanks mounted on the ceiling of engine rooms.
@@JR-sx3cu ohh I see. So opening that valve would have allowed them to unflood that compartment and potentially refloat the submarine, that was the general point of what they were trying to do with that?
No they were checking if there was air in the compartment below. That's were any survivors would have locked themselves in if the sub was flooded. That's why they used dye to see if water would rush in when opening the valve. It didn't so the compartment was obviously flooded and they knew there were no survivors
Yeah - that's why NASA needed to purchase Russian engines for their rockets because they outperformed their own. The Russians might not have the resources of, say, the US. But don't think for a moment they're a bunch of incompetents because they aint. As a general rule Russian military tech tends to be less sophisticated. But they design their equipment so that a moron can be trained up to operate it within a few weeks. A good example is the AK-47. Much is made of the fact that it's inferior to this or that Western design. But the AK was designed to be operated and serviced by people with almost no firearms skills. The same goes for the SU-27. Lacks the bells and whistles of an F15 or F16. But they are incredibly easy to fly and don't require ten million dollars of training using equally expensive flight simulators.
@@deaddropholiday russian doctrine utilizes low grade soldiers using simple equipment. Doesnt compare to western equipment. But then the soldiers of the west are far better trained.
@@StellarJay The Russians have begun the same process instigated by the US after it discovered you cannot fight a brutal, imperialist war in S.E. Asia (specifically Vietnam) with a conscript army. It's the same story for them in Ukraine. Still, you don't need to possess the greatest bunch of killers this side of the Urals when you have several thousand tactical and strategic nukes at the touch of a button. We will never attack them directly and vice versa because it's impossible. What both sides CAN DO is profit from insanely overpriced weapon sales in the Ukrainian theater putting their people through the meat grinder for ours and their profit. Sickening.
@@OmmerSyssel Yep. A twelve inch Maksutov-Cassegrain optically stabalized and fully motorized telescope. Russian optics are outstanding quality. Much better than the crap Meade or Celestron were churning out. They also make some of the best RTGs although not for private export. Their closed cycle rocket engines were the best anywhere in the world. Which NASA conceded before buying a ton of them.
There were no bodies alive when the US navy dive operations began. Any survivors possibly had 3 days, only evidence shows survivors living 6 hours after accident.
Reason #2 not to go hundreds of meters deep in a giant coffin full of dudes. Reason #1 is its a giant coffin full of dudes hundreds of meters below a chance of survival. N.ever A.gain V.olunteer Y.ourself
Geez if 2 people aren't sure of what they're doing mayhem ensues. So leave it to the man on the tools and through trial and error he will get there in the end, and probably in less time.
That is sovereign property of the Russian government. It is amazing they let divers from another country touch it. THEY have the final say as to what is done.
The Russian navy top brass were controlling the whole operation, from the control room above . Every thing was done by their commands.. As everyone knows Russia isn't working logical, never mind the costs 🤷🏼🤪💩
Good job getting the audio and yes there is a total reason why he’s saying “lads relax” because if one gets emotional it could cost not just one but the whole dive team their lives
What happened when he said relax, i thought the diver said they was trying to get out wasnt they, before being told to shush..
I mean in this context the "lads relax" is more about the fact that like he says earlier there are about 30 people in that room, with Russians and interpreters, so what he means by that is "wait until we can figure out what to do next". That being said it's true that they have to be relaxed to not overwhelm their rebreathers.
I did not learn till much later. But It was actually Admiral Popov who went overruled Vladimir Putin who was President at the time as well to finally except foreign aid. Now we will never know for sure but it would not be so hard to believe that the surviving crew of the initial explosion might have had a more then a fair chance if they excepted help earlier on. This is because the Norwegian 🇳🇴 dive team was on Standby and was consistently told to stand down. We can see how old munitions, poor maintenance and bad judgement went into the Kursk. But what about kindness and humanity? Because it looks like today we can see that back then all this mean To Vladimir Putin was just some really bad PR!
@@Greippi10 haha there not using rebreathers mate. they have unlimited gas. they are surface supplied. hes telling them to relax becasue they have just worked out the valve was open when they got there. meaning it had been opened from inside already in an escape attempt. and that there would be no one alive inside. so don't hurry. it was the point where the job turned from rescue to recovery. the primary objective was now completed. they had to discuss the new plan, so the divers where told to wait. happens all the time. you can be 100m underwater just sitting on a pipe twideling your thumbs for an hour waiting for further instructions.
thanks to the internet, we can see the material that was recorded after the disaster, 20 years later. this feels like classified material, not meant to be seen by an audience. thank you for sharing that with us
Indeed CLASSIFIED, because of nuclear secret. That's why the Kursk sank, some guys could be still alive today.
For what I just saw on the video, I don't see anything that would be considered CLASSIFIED. Now as far as the nuclear part of it, absolutely, I would not show anyone the video except the Russian Government and their military.
@@craigbosko2229 well i would take a bet and say that the russian would argue that the screw used and seen in the video, can give clues, as well as valves and what not. all that could be considered as clues to some, that could be used for sabotage.. like: if the "enemy" knows, that use bolts of type A, those are weak to XY, they could use that- information typ of classified. tho i think thats overreacting, the cold war was over by that point
@@craigbosko2229 the propeller was absolutely the most classified thing on the boat except what's in the boat.
I saw a shorter piece of this video on TV right after the disaster so no, this wasn't classified.
Mother Russia looking after her sons by sitting on her hands while they died. May they forever rest in peace. Thankyou for posting mate.
You should watch the Benghazi movie. Russia isn't the only one sitting on hands.
@@darylsmioth1904 I will do thank mate. That was mentioned in a podcast a few weeks ago. Cheers
70,000 Russians dead since start of Ukraine
@@alltehstuffs I think you mistake casualties for deaths. Ukraine has lost many times more than that. And so DPR/LPR are Russian now? They're about 40% of the force fighting. It's good that you confirmed DPR and LPR is Russian and does not belong to Ukraine.
@@CyrilSneer123 for your enlightening, Ukraine is a independent and sovereign nation, and will stay so, never mind if megalomaniac RuZZian Nazis like it or not!
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Was a police dispatcher for a time, you used to have to develop "radio ear" which I can best describe as an ability to accurately interpret partial words and distorted noises based on responses/information that should be expected. The ear it must take to communicate effectively with these divers under the effects of helium is insane xD
You’re spot on. This is a highly specialized skill.
the helium noise runs through a filter and then is pitcheddown to a normal voice.! it sounds way bettewr in the superviso cabin onboard.
Human brains are capable of amazing abilities in communication. My uncle was deployed to Korea and roomed with a Morse code operator - the Morse guys could recognise each other's "hands" when sending dots and dashes, in the way that we can recognise accents over the phone.
@@klhaldane That's amazing
Believe it or not when you have your 'helium ears' on you get so used to it (and very quickly) you can still tell regional accents, you can tell who is speaking to you with your back turned to them. Some supervisors would turn off the helium Comms descrambler and listen directly to the divers raw Comms without compensation too, some find it easier like that. But diver to diver in a saturation system you actually forget your speaking like that and chat normally and understand everything. I once called my then girlfriend from a porthole on mobile phone, my mother in law answered, she replied "I don't know who this is but it's not very funny!"" And promptly hung up on me. On the occasion I did speak with my wife she was pretty good at understanding, difficult but we would get by. It is actually harder for someone on surface air to understand someone on HeO2 but two diver both on heliox understand eachother no problem, even if the person on air is a seasoned sat diver. So it's definitely something to do with how the brain compensates. Incidentally I was working for Subsea 7 when they took part in the Salvage of the Kursk.
The saddest part is that some of them could have been saved if the Russians would have accepted outside help sooner.
Sounds familiar to Chernobyl doesn't it
@@metallicaKSA yes bro 💯
The most important secret to newer submarine stealth is revealed in the first few images ; the propeller has sub fins on the tip of the shaft to reduce noise and cavitation.
Americans will pretend they want to help but then the real objective isw gather fucking intelligence...No wounder most of the World hate them.
These saturation divers operate at another level
Great respect to them
I remember this so well. It breaks my heart that some of the sailors could have been saved if Russia had accepted help immediately when it was offered. You did what you could. Well done.
My heart breaks knowing that those poor sailors died a terrible death because their government chose to protect the security of the sub over using the best options to save those men. Underpaid, poorly trained, living in slums, those Sailors deserved better. I am sure they were proud to serve in that elite service but that service was not rewarded by the Kremlin.
The Khazarian Oligarchs were so busy looting Russia, and few understand that was orchestrated by Rockefeller's and Rothschild's Agents who were stealing trillions... Now Russia has driven them out.... That includes the traitor Gorbachev, who will not receive a State Burial for his crimes...
@@alexanderfederowicz When dealing with "greed" I would consider almost any claim to be true but your assertions are beyond believable. In the 80's when R. Reagan became president the United States was 4 trillion dollars in debt. NOT trillions and trillions!!
And where did you get your information about Rockefeller and the Rothschild's stealing trillions from the then U.S.S.R., from a Russian corrupt education system. At that time, during the 80's the Ruble was worthless on the open market and Communist U.S.S.R.'s economy was in the tank. If Rockefeller or the Rothschild's were to steal anything it would be the U.S. dollar and NOT a worthless Ruble. And Gorbachev understood this. That is why when the two leaders met in Iceland (as I recall the two met in Iceland to discuss nuclear arms reduction) Gorbachev was willing to seriously reduce nuclear arms in exchange for the Reagan Administration NOT IMPLEMENTING Star Wars.
I have a great deal of respect for Premier Gorbachev even though the path he chose to try and bolster U.S.S.R.'s economy failed which caused the complete collapse of the Soviet Communist system of governing. In other words I could care less if you hate Gorbachev but I might suggest you find a different teacher, someone who is more interested in imparting the truth about world events during that period of time or get a teacher who understands "economics" and can teach you that.
I think Putin has made it clear that he doesn't give a shit about his people, just as his people clearly don't give a shit about anyone else. Caring only about oneself is what Moskal culture is all about.
The part that made me sad was the fact that the men wrote letters to their loved ones telling them their fate was that death would overtake them in the sub. Just imagining how it felt to be submerged knowing you faced certain death is just paralyzing. All those young men lost. Just a tragedy.
Russia's Governments have always been ruled by paranoia, lies, cover ups and denial of facts/information. No maintenance of anything, the list goes on and on. Those sailors may have died anyway, but surely by their criminal government refusing to actually do anything to help them. Bye the time Russia asked for help, those men were already dead. Many more of them have suffered the same fate over many decades for the same sick attitudes of the people in command...
Thanks for posting this Paal. Have got plenty of salvage media from back in the day after the initial dives but have never seen your lock out video. Kudos to you all, very sad event. Rip
Such a tragedy. The salvage divers are truly amazing.
Saturation diving is so insane. The fact that these guys can understand the Mickey Mouse voice from the helium! So dangerous and so hard core.
May God have Mercy on the Souls of these Sailors. I was attached to two Knox Class Frigates as a former US Navy Sonar Technician during the 70's and 80's. The Soviet ballistic submarine threat was very real during the Cold War, and I spent hours on watch acquiring and tracking submarines of many types. It was a game of 'Cat and Mouse' at the time because no 'state of war' existed between the Soviets and our Allies. Many military personnel on both sides were lost during 'war games' and a 'state of readiness' in these dangerous times, even though an uneasy Peace existed. Considering the current situation in Ukraine, apparently we have not learned much from this experience. Nothing has changed. The Cold War never ended. Now my grandchildren carry the torch...
Strange seeing this , my dad was in hospital with cancer when this happened. He'd been a submariner , udm diver , member of the end , the last conversation we had , was about this. I asked " ,wat do you think?. Dad just looked at me and said one word:,"dead' if the Russians had been open about this , asked for help immediately, some of those lads could've been saved. Rip guys
What happened to the missiles(nuclear tipped)
In any event, the Russian rescue teams were poorly equipped and badly organised, while foreign teams and equipment were far away and not given permission to assist.[5]: 143-145 [64] It is unlikely that any rescue by either Russian or foreign specialists could have arrived and reached the sub in time to rescue any survivors
@@bradklukowski3018 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster
Can You upload more parts of whole video ? Very interesting
What an immensely challenging procedure under those conditions, always allowing that there might be survivors.
Just the rusty, battered state of that hatch alone was all you needed to know about the maintenance regime. Something tells me the Royal Navy doesn't let its submarine hatches look like that.
What was the chain gadget the diver was tapping?
You couldn't be so wrong. Having dived on nuke subs up in Faslane, I can confirm they are in same condition. They are work tools, not prestige cars.
Not sure I’ve seen the chain yet, and he’s not wrong. If maintenance is done properly hatches shouldn’t be looking like that. I’m speaking from experience here. But if you have a poor nation, well…. It is what it is.
Its also been down there for 20 years
@@SuperDylanhall hadn't been there for 20 years when it sank........
@@SuperDylanhall This is a video from soon after it sank, not one made 20 years after, they already raised the hull and took it to Russia to be scrapped decades ago.
Fascinating, it was curious that the door valve was found in the fully open state, they seemed surprised by the realization.
Maybe some1 had been down b4 these divers..just an idea as daft as it sounds but there was alot of corruption with all this
@@iamwealthy2242 no there were practically nobody cabable besides them onto the area was monitored the entire time so nobody could have gotten there secretly
There were other team’s down already. This was the very first dive of this team. You can read about it on line
Actually I am not surprised, it would be standard practice to have that open, how would you possibly equalise from the inside if it wasn't open. The fact there was two hatches would be the failsafe against valve failure/damage (and the valve was recessed to protect it from knocks). So on both inner and outer hatches I would expect the external side to be open already.
@@rayhsetwo8594In the movie.They open it to test for suction.
Such a tragic loss of life I feel for the divers having to go through a tough dive and not get the outcome so many hoped for god bless all the dive team and surface team for their selfless bravery and may the 118 lost souls rest in peace 🕊
Paal , I feel I speak for all the good people of this earth, when I say Good Job. Though your teams were not able to rescue any crewmen, you did what few persons would be able and willing to do. Our prayers were with you and your teams, as well as with the trapped crewmen. Hopefully this will highlight the futility of armed nuclear war and someday we will all be at peace.
The nuclear war had nothing to do with this the ineptitude of the Russian navy was to blame and not allowing rescue vessels to do there job I know for a fact that the us navy has at the west cost and east coast a rescue submarine that can be brought to anywhere in the world in 24hrs an can bring 24 survivors out at a time to a depth of round 5000 feet please do ur research before u make a comment bout a tragedy like this one and just to be clear the crew could have free swam up to the surface using special gear they have on board the sub they decided not to because of water temperature at the surface an the navy not looking for them
Tactical nuclear weapons aren't large enough to cause world freezing, crop killing, nuclear winter. Nor is the land unusable for a hundred years, that's a myth. They just blow armies off the map and their puppet leader with them. And don't anybody at me, because Zel wants the war to go nuclear not Putin.
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People aren't adversaries - governments are.
@ 10:30 basically someone had left the Red inlet valve open, or it had been opened by others before the British Rescue team arrived.
Might be from a failed rescue attempt by the russians. They tried, failed and then asked for help. By that time it was too late for the crew...
@@smokeonthewater5287 yes absolutely I think the Russians had already been there b4hand..
Russians tried to attach a rescue bladder to the hatch but the batteries on their submersible were depleted and the rescue team had to surface
No that valve should be open, there would be no way of equalising from the inside otherwise. Both inner and outer hatches would have the external valve fully open for that reason.
The Helium in the tri-mix makes a deadly serious job sound hilarious
Not only hilarious, but makes it sound cute 😂🤣
It’s a very sad disaster, but at first I thought Jawa‘s were salvaging the sub.
It'll be heliox they're on
@@bam-skater correct. not trimix. thats for scuba kiddies
I love how the first thing to get pictured was the screw (propeller).
Hehe I'm sure they already knew what it looks like, but since they're there why not take a REEEEALLLY good look at it?
a tragedy indeed! i really admire the divers they are special human beings!
It must have killed the guy giving out directions and kissing arse to the Russians while they left these poor sailors to die in there over pride and pig-headedness n not asking for help.. These divers and crew did an amazing job to get these men home.. Rip kursk
If you actually do your research you would find that they were all dead within 6 hours of the explosion and Kursk wasn't expected to surface until then and that radio comms were frequently going down. It wasn't until the Kursk was expected to surface did they realise something was wrong. And that was about 6 hours after the explosion. In this video the crew of the Kursk was already dead.
@@CyrilSneer123 I have done my research, my comment was not about the time it took the men to perish rather the stubborn Russian leaders who knew she was down and did nothing to help by reaching out.. regardless of country in a maritime disaster all available ships of any country can assist but the Russians said no. But can you imagine the hell those men went thru in 6 hrs. This was a tragedy, period
Sad to see him tap on the hull and get no response. RIP to these poor young men.
an excellent video to show people who have no idea about what we do under water and how slow everything happens. lots of explaining, lots of people trying to talk at once, lots of things going on onboard the supervisor is trying to deal with as well as talk to the divers. everything takes ages when you have very little information about the thing you are working on. the best plans always go out the window when you put that bucket on your head.
Love to see investigation footage of wreck in dry dock
I'm pretty sure the ship was never moved and this is now the crews grave...I take that back I just Wikipediad the ship
@@justinhealey2408 there's some footage of the sub in the dry dock in this documentary
ruclips.net/video/T_tJfrJ_Z_8/видео.html
@@wurlyone4685 thank you
God bless all those involved. 107 meters is some deep stressful diving. I can only imagine the decos for that that mission were incredibly long. 🖖🏼😎🤙🏼
its saturation mate. not kiddy scuba diving
@@freelectron2029 I’ve done saturation diving, sir. I am a trained cave diver, certified NSSCDS. You still need decos with trimix and a bell. Not to mention the hours you’re going to spend in the chamber. 🖖🏼😎🤙🏼
@@scubaguy007 hahaha this is commercial saturation diving. you dont quite understand the meaning of being saturated. you have not done this. you dont know. very easy to tell when someone is pretending to know about the thing you do for a living. we dont use trimix. you dont spend hours in the chamber. you spend weeks in a habitat. sorry pal. go back to scuba fan club. congrats on your recreational diving hobby. but this is big boys stuff mate. not kiddy diving.
@freelectron2029 Well, Mr. I know more than you. These guys are driving Trimix, and you can hear it in his high-pitched tone of his voice. Plus, these are military drivers, which is a bit divergent than commercial driving. They have deco chambers on the ship. I am very familiar with navy diving. Very familiar. So don't act all high and mighty, I have done saturation trimix diving wrecks off North Carolina, Brunswick Georgia, and way off the coast of the Keys. Nothing deeper than 220 feet, but those dives required lots of deco at a few levels with at least a hour on 80% O2 at 15 feet. I know what I'm taking about so you?
@@scubaguy007 omfg. mate. shut up. you are clueless. I AM A SAT DIVER. I DO THIS FOR A LIVING. i know who these guys are. i know this vessel. i know this dive system. just stop talking mate. these are not military divers. they are not breathing trimix. they are breathing heliox. we dont deco in chambers. we live in saturation. no one decos until the job is finished or 28 days is up. just stop talking mate. go pretend to be hard somewhere else where the people you are talking to arent the real deal. i called you out on your garbage and thats what your going to get when you walk into a room of ACTUAL divers pretending to know what your talking about.go and impress some scuba kiddys with your BS. bye now. off you go.
Man just understanding what they're saying is a job of it's own. The Helium makes them sound like cartoon characters!
God bless the divers and those poor souls inside.
Gives a whole new meaning to the saying “DOWN THE HATCH” !!!!!!
7:27 lol a bit of humor can go a long way in a tense situation like this.
It still angers me that the Russians sat on their thumbs until it was too late to save the crew.
If Russia hadn't been so paranoid about secrecy, international rescue teams could have effected a DSRV rescue sooner.
Such an unnecessary waste of life
America had already been there, or someone else and killed them all.
It was just at the beginning of a glasnost/perestroika and they were still in full 'Soviet' mode. They only started to reveal the extent of the accident when the mothers of the sailors started turning up demanding to know what had happened to their sons.
I think Putin had just taken office and went on his holibob but didn’t do anything for some reason
What a great way to show the Russians submarines top secret. The Propeller blades!!!
U.S. Technology shared by Toshiba to the Russians long ago.
It’s not secret at all. It’s old even than .
From Holland: when the next one sinks: don't call!
2:48 were these beats to see if someone was alive and would respond back?
Yes, they were trying to see if someone would knock back.
@@_C_E_C_ Sinister
Yes, and to alert the rescue outside (3x)
What do you mean beats they were the only ones holding out hope?!? They knew they were gone this was the British dive master and the Norwegian rescue sub 🇳🇴
Thanks for posting that, I worked on the Mayo and not seen that video before, I think your on the Eagle on this dive, 'on at the bottle, off at the hat' 👍
When those men went down, Putin was in full arse-covering mode.
First they denied it had sunk, then when NATO said "Yes, it blew up, we saw and heard it happen." Then the NATO Navies (Royal Navy and Norwegian Navy offered to help (every sailor's first enemy is the sea after all) and Putin and his lackeys said that they were already rescuing them.. no Russian rescue ever came for them. The notes that Dmitri Kolesnikov (a survivor of the initial blasts) wrote in the dark, trapped, waiting to die whilst Putin's stooges were saying that the Kursk was 'fine' when they and everyone outside of Russia knew it wasn't, are heartbreaking to read. Admiral Mikhail Motsak the fleet commander who Putin later decided should be the scapegoat for the fate of the Kursk even though he was just planning the exercises using torpedos that Moscow sent him and told him were perfectly functional, released those notes after divers (Russian Navy didn't even have their own sat divers) recovered the bodies of Kolesnikov and his comrades who died in that room, just as they feared they would.
After news broke in Russia days later, after all hope for those men was lost, Putin tried to save face by accepting British and Norwegian help far too late.
Putin lies, and everyone dies.
Tells you everything that the Soviet 'experts' didn’t know which direction opened the valve.
I think they did of course know but they expected to find this valve fully closed but were rather surprised to find it was open when they got there. They really weren't expecting that. With very few exceptions, valves close clockwise.
@@Stigstigster Righty tighty, lefty loosy.
I was surprised they seemed to be trying that at first, it's an equalisation valve, you would expect it to be open because there's no way of equalising from the inside otherwise. Both inner and outer hatches I would expect to see both external valves fully open. Don't forget in the moment with a lot of eyes on you it's quite obvious to miss the obvious, the supervisor said there was about 30 in the control room. And it's also quite possible that the Russian engineers wanted to absolutely see for themselves that the valve was already fully open as one would expect before trying it the other way. I can think of a couple of reasons why too 😉
Doesn't make much sense having a closed valve in that construction. Who is ever going to open a closed valve, situated outside a submarine..
You’ve not been pissing into it
I noticed that as well .. 😏
If I understand this correctly, the submarine is in 400+ feet deep, the submarine was 400 + feet long which meant if the sub was disabled straight up and down you would still see the props and rudder sticking out above the waters surface., kinda crazy
I worked out that the US Ohio class, if stood up in our central city district, would be one of the biggest buildings, like, about 50 floors. Crazy is the word.
@@klhaldane absolutely, I never realized the size of those nuke subs, obvioulsy the Kursk explosion was catastrophic but without the front half missing straight up and down. The crew could have walked up many flights of stairs to get out.....
Thank you Paal
Man it takes some serious balls to dove down in the pitch black cold waters without climbing on a wounded nuke fish , a Russian one at that. About to open a valve/hatch and don’t know if water is going to rush into a room that had no water, or something
Right?
Would they have even been able to open the hatch?, as it opened outwards, until the pressures had equalized, like trying to open a car door after submersion in a lake or river i imagine.
My concern would have been if one of them poor Russian submariners, floating up at me as the hatch opened.
Such a shame that the Russian higher-ups have such extremely low opinion and their even lower regard in the value of their military service personnels lives.
Can't even say it had anything to do with pride etc, as they could maybe have had a Russian operative aboard the diving bell, watching eagle eyed over every move, instead of aboard the rescue vessel at sea level, or wherever they were. Such a tragedy for those 118 brave men, R.I.P.
And major kudos to the divers who tried to get to them in the end, Must be some special diving suits, to carry their massive cajones in there..
@@d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f well said, but I don’t think they could have put a Russian in the bell. They’re insanely cramped. They were up top, and that was close enough. Russian officers could eff up a wet dream.
It's hard to say what's being recorded. If it's the raw audio the the helium effect will be strong. The communication equipment has a dial that can adjust the pitch to make "helium voices" much clearer to the listener. It's possible that that clarification could be after the recorded voice. So the handlers on the surface may have a much clearer sound.
fantastic .......much respect
Thank you for this video
Very Eerie like the submarine scene from “The Abyss “
Do they have an electronic device these days that can audio correct the divers voice for more clarity? And block out the breathing noise?
Yes we do. But does it work consistently is the better question.
Yes
After Julius Manuel... ❤️
Great vid. Thank you.
How long was this after the explosion?
seeing that giant propeller at the beginning of the video triggered my submechanophobia real quick. Even though the sub is dead in the water, there's always that part of me that would have fear of it starting up and slicing up any diver near it.😨
@Paul Gerald The scary thing is that screw design (props, propellers, whatever) Are a matter of National Security.
Passive sonar and acoustics can identify a ship or submarine by it’s wake so to speak.
Active sonar, like the, ‘ping’ you see or hear in movies (loud enough underwater to kill people and animals) is only useful to indentify passive assets like mines.
@Pleasureincontempt In fact, Sonar technology is so sophisticated these days; Any acoustical anomaly like a, ‘Whale call’ paints a vivid picture.
@Pleasureincontempt I would even postulate that diffuse signals from satellites are utilized under the, ‘deep scattering layer’ formerly known as the, ‘ECR layer’.
This is an anxiety-inducing video of the dive. Just a horror.
good video.
19:02 I was just wondering if Diver 1 (Tony) said "Those are human beings trapped in there" in a moment of frustration of having to wait? if so, that is a powerful moment in this video. He did not say "Russians".....he said human beings. It hits home at the frustration they must have felt throughout the entire ordeal because all the dive team wanted to do was help their fellow human beings. 😪
Why would he say Communists, this was well after the Soviet Union
@@maxstr That was my bad. I had a moment where I confused the Kursk disaster with the K129. I have since corrected my original comment
You're gonna have communication issues if you send a chipmunk into the water.
Such a shame. Russia is a 2nd world nation, masquerading as a 1st world nation, and all those sailors suffered the consequences. The sea will never give up their souls.
Not sure you understand the meaning between 1st and 2nd world countries. Russia has always been a 2nd world nation
@@ChaplainAppollus agreed, did you read my comment?
Sad...
There really wasn't much hope.
RIP SAILORS
Actually the a part of the crew survived for many days, the government was just reluctant to ask for help from the west.
@@smokeonthewater5287 This is false. The crew in the 9th compartment died after about 6 hours. They were running low on oxygen so they tried to fire up a potassium superoxide chemical oxygen cartidge that generates oxygen but it fell into the oily water (prob because they were starved of oxygen) and this ignited a fire that swallowed up the rest of the oxygen killing the rest of them in seconds. There might have been some hope of rescuing them but after the chemical fire there was no hope and by the time the rescue divers reached them they were all dead.
@@CyrilSneer123 This is a convenient story created by the military to relieve responsibility. Tapping sounds were detected for days while the botched rescue attempt was being prepared.
@@smokeonthewater5287 says who? You sound uneducated and ignorant
amazing British doing the rescue for the Russians
As noticed by the names of diving crews, Norwegians were also involved in the operation, to my knowledge Dutch experts took part as well. Otherwise Wikipedia has enlightening details
@@OmmerSyssel yes the rescue ship, was made up of Norwegians' British and Dutch, , i believe the Russians had a rescue sub, but it was on lease doing tours of the titanic wreck ?
At a time like this, there are no adversaries just emotions for all who were on board, R.I.P. Sailors.
Wrong because according to the Russians their submarine was sunk by a US sub. All offers of help were also refused.
These guys believed in their country . Their country didn't believe in them . A real tragedy i remember it well .
damn!! so intense, and knowing the results...
SO the Russian NAVY uses the same garden hose valves I use on the outside of my house, not high-tech stainless or bronze. Something that can handle constant exposure to salt water.
same diviers who went down to MS Estonia?
That is incredible, i have watched the dive on the estonia and the bodies them divers had to push passed, to get the bridge. I hope they get counselling and therapy to deal with all this work
@@waynerafferty1048 why should experienced offshore divers need counseling for doing their work? Are you unaware of handling dead bodies is normal part of this sort of qualified job?
Ever offered a butcher or a nurse your special interest?
Thanks. RIP 🙏✌️💛
The valve was probably already opened by russian divers. They seemed shocked that the valve was already opened.
Just some of Vlad The Butcher's many victims died on that sub.
If the Russian sailors had any chance before the rescue efforts met with the impassable valve, they were certainly dead by the time committee figured out "some idiot left this open"
That was only the equalization valve for the first air lock, a Room about 6 feet tall and 3 ft round. The actual door to the interior of the sub was at the bottom of that little room.
The Russians left them to die
Tragic breaks my heart.
When you here a voice like that, you know their extraordinarily deep, wouldnt surprise me if they had to get rig divers to do it,only ones who could i suppose, shame really as we know now they could have got down to the survivers and placed the bell on top...just had a eeby jeeby moment, imagine that lump hammer bouncing back and going through his viewing screen...
350 ft. here is not in the least "extraordinary deep" for commercial or military divers. These are saturation divers working out of a bell chamber at depth. The Helium mix allows them to work for extended periods. Depends upon the working depth & duration of tasks. In fact this is rather shallow compared to what they're used to. Some routinely work beyond 1000 ft.
@@jalspach9215 if that the case then, why not their own, DS divers go down then?? Dik hed!!
@@wor53lg50 Ah, well I was doing my best to be diplomatic with correct information. The entirety of your original comment was extraordinarily stupid.
@@wor53lg50 you sound brain dead
@@jalspach9215 right that why on HE then ya twat?..or sniffing tri mix, still jog on..
what where they talking about at 18:46? seeing this video with the radio comms is even more interresting, crazy stuff. at a depth of 100 meters
It's really hard to understand the diver. I wonder if they sound that way because of helium in their oxygen mix?
@@Corentinbes I guess the diving helmet just has really bad accoustics, I was more wondering what he was saying because at the point I marked in the video the diver suddenly starts being very vague and the reply from the operator is also very vague, it seems like they were talking about something that they did not want to be recorded. I mean the part were the operator says "yep you got that right" after the diver asks some question.
That’s when they realized that the previous attempts By the Russian divers, Who would have/should have known the submarine in an out, had already flooded the compartment from The outside with that valve.
They’re making the sickening discovery that, amongst all the other lies the Ruskie government told, that they had been lied to as well. They knew good and well that there were no survivors. They made sure they were dead before they allowed assistance from Western countries.
@@danielmfpv5475 Probably about encountering remains.
I think at this point they must of realised there's zero pressure from that valve, so obviously the hull is flooded and all sailors are lost. That's why he was asking him to rotate it clock and anti-clockwise just to see if the valve had threaded and was inoperable.
Doe anyone know what he is banging on the hammer with? It kinda looks like hes banging on the anchor chain? Idk why you would bang on that tho? lol
Wouldnt you wanna bang on the outside of the hull? Or not because it was double hulled or what? Im confused on why he would bang right there, to me it seems like one of the worst spots you could bang, but im not a rescue diver so idk lol
Did it not contain nukes?
Not sure what its full loadout was on that training mission, but this class of submarine primarily carries Granit hypersonic anti ship missiles with conventional warheads designed to destroy US supercarriers.
Apparently the Geiger registered zero emissions
Extraordinary footage. I think it is obvious now in 2022 that Russia sees its own people as an expendable commodity. These sailors were sacrificed to save face. Just as in Ukraine where civilian conscripts are being fed into a meat grinder to try and stop the top guy looking like a failure.
Every country sees its citizens as an expendable commodity. Not just the Russians.
@@deaddropholiday ever considered travelling in modern civilised democracies? Might be enlightening ...
@@OmmerSyssel I'm sure I've travelled to far more than you. In addition to Russia.
@@deaddropholiday Congratulations 🍻
so sad, such a terrible loss of life.
Why was the Hatch Valve already Open!?? Did Russia send their Frogmen Down Earlier??
I expect it to be open, it's an external equalisation valve, so to equalise from inside it would always need to be open. On both the inner and outer hatches.
Russia left them die...
Rest In Peace Shipmates. If only Russia had acted quicker, these men could have been saved. I went to Sub School and all I can think about is that these Submariners were together. No other explanation would suffice.
We need to design and build a very large and long ROV submersible that can clasp the tail of submarines. The ROV then does its party trick: It becomes a giant inflatable, like a underwater unfolding satellite but gas and airbags. Once the sub is at 50ft, the chances of survival and rescue are good. Plus salvage is possible.
I think even a private enterprise could make money from such an invention by assisting all nations.
Yeah an inflatable submarine that can lift the weight of a sunken sub the size of the Kursk? Sounds easy
@@JD-re3cj It does sound easy. Do it with models then scale it up.
So sad.
Pretty morbid adventure to send Alvin and the chipmunks to do😳
Rip sailors
Russian government is the only reason for everything.
Poor divers are going to pass out from old age following procedures.
"Understood" -- I don't believe that
Okay number one, this is utterly fascinating. I had no idea this video even existed. Secondly though, I don't understand the importance behind turning this valve. Obviously I know they're doing it for a very important reason, I just don't know what that reason is and I wish I did.
the big black flat ring surface is the area where a rescue diving bell seats on. To enable both the diving bell and submarine to open their hatches for crew to transfer, the water in that space needs to be pumped out or blown out by air. That valve is there to do that, so the diving bell will be pushed against the sub to seal it. I have been involved in X-raying the welds on the exact type of valve on a sub.
It can also be that that valve is a clockwise to open type. I have seen water drain valves like that on starter air tanks mounted on the ceiling of engine rooms.
@@JR-sx3cu ohh I see. So opening that valve would have allowed them to unflood that compartment and potentially refloat the submarine, that was the general point of what they were trying to do with that?
No they were checking if there was air in the compartment below. That's were any survivors would have locked themselves in if the sub was flooded. That's why they used dye to see if water would rush in when opening the valve. It didn't so the compartment was obviously flooded and they knew there were no survivors
@@JR-sx3cu ahh I see, got it.
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I wonder who got to keep the 22 nuclear missiles on the sub?
Russia of course,
There is well made documentary on RUclips of the salvage operation. Guess it was Dutch Mamooet, or something like that
Russian equipment is not well designed or maintained
Yeah - that's why NASA needed to purchase Russian engines for their rockets because they outperformed their own. The Russians might not have the resources of, say, the US. But don't think for a moment they're a bunch of incompetents because they aint. As a general rule Russian military tech tends to be less sophisticated. But they design their equipment so that a moron can be trained up to operate it within a few weeks. A good example is the AK-47. Much is made of the fact that it's inferior to this or that Western design. But the AK was designed to be operated and serviced by people with almost no firearms skills. The same goes for the SU-27. Lacks the bells and whistles of an F15 or F16. But they are incredibly easy to fly and don't require ten million dollars of training using equally expensive flight simulators.
@@deaddropholiday russian doctrine utilizes low grade soldiers using simple equipment. Doesnt compare to western equipment. But then the soldiers of the west are far better trained.
@@StellarJay The Russians have begun the same process instigated by the US after it discovered you cannot fight a brutal, imperialist war in S.E. Asia (specifically Vietnam) with a conscript army. It's the same story for them in Ukraine. Still, you don't need to possess the greatest bunch of killers this side of the Urals when you have several thousand tactical and strategic nukes at the touch of a button. We will never attack them directly and vice versa because it's impossible. What both sides CAN DO is profit from insanely overpriced weapon sales in the Ukrainian theater putting their people through the meat grinder for ours and their profit. Sickening.
How surprising...! Ever bought any useful ordinary product from that clown nation?
@@OmmerSyssel Yep. A twelve inch Maksutov-Cassegrain optically stabalized and fully motorized telescope. Russian optics are outstanding quality. Much better than the crap Meade or Celestron were churning out. They also make some of the best RTGs although not for private export. Their closed cycle rocket engines were the best anywhere in the world. Which NASA conceded before buying a ton of them.
Looks like a cheap gate valve broke the stem
Your damn lucky you got to see what you saw, really damn lucky, don't push your luck any further.
Bad day
What is awful about this footage is that in the initial dives YOU/WE are watching, tapping was (initially) heard from inside the submarine.
There were no bodies alive when the US navy dive operations began. Any survivors possibly had 3 days, only evidence shows survivors living 6 hours after accident.
Really? How do you know?
Absolute stupid lies. All the crew were proven to be dead by then
amazing British divers ?
RIP🌹🌹🌹
Reason #2 not to go hundreds of meters deep in a giant coffin full of dudes. Reason #1 is its a giant coffin full of dudes hundreds of meters below a chance of survival. N.ever A.gain V.olunteer Y.ourself
Geez if 2 people aren't sure of what they're doing mayhem ensues. So leave it to the man on the tools and through trial and error he will get there in the end, and probably in less time.
That is sovereign property of the Russian government. It is amazing they let divers from another country touch it. THEY have the final say as to what is done.
The Russian navy top brass were controlling the whole operation, from the control room above . Every thing was done by their commands.. As everyone knows Russia isn't working logical, never mind the costs 🤷🏼🤪💩
Looking at how things are now, it was good the Kursk sunk. Otherwise it possibly was used to fight against Ukraïn