3 BODY PROBLEM Season 1 Episode 5 "Judgment Day" First Time Watching Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Cut through the competition with Auggie's Nano-Fibers
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I believe in the books they discuss how the nano-fiber cuts are so fine that they could easily reassemble anything that was sliced
Except human bodies
It is the only choice cause the hard drive can be recovered even if it is cut.
Yes
If you were Mike Evans watching that woman get sliced up by invisible wires, He had to be thinking the San-Ti were doing that. No way he thought other humans were doing that.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” -Arthur C. Clarke
Hence he asked for forgiveness. He thought they're being forsaken.
"WE WILL TEACH YOU, HOW TO FEAR AGAIN." Hearing that line gives me chill. Best line in 2024 for me so far.
What does it mean
@@royalebliss6868 rewatch the evans and 'lord' conversations, about fear
i wonder if in reality the nanofibers would "sing" as they resonated while slicing through the ship. wouldve been insane if all you heard was a shrieking hum echoing throughout the ship, as you saw all your neighbors fall apart.
I liked that the "file type" they didn't recognize is an abbreviation for the book's author.
12:09 "What do you think is happening?", "I think we are at war", perfect moment and delivery. When you have an alien race openly working with humans to subdue our ability to fight back, that is when you know the gloves have to come off.
YES! And the human cause will be horrific, heart-wrenching and evil. It must be done. And if it doesn't bother you, then you are part of a bigger problem.
I always assumed that the San-Ti did the blinking of the night sky by unfolding a Sophon, and having it blink between transparent and opaque. We can already do this with windows, that we can make transition between transparent and opaque by running an electric current through them. It would essentially be the same as what they did at the end with the mirror in the sky. I don't think even the sophons could make every person and camera on earth see the sky blink with out one of the sophons unfolding.
In the book that's basically what they did but in a bit more complicated way and it wasn't the stars but the cosmic background radiation which if your a scientist or atleast understand what that is that's nuts to see it blinking
That was Auggie's "Oppenheim moment." It would be easy to walk away. She had to see the human cost of her invention. The argument still continues about whether or not Truman did the right thing.... and those bombs killed thousands of babies and children.
Many ships that exist Today are specifically made so that they can fit the Panama canal. It is a huge consideration when making ships that are expected to operate in the area. Making a ship that is too big is a huge disadvantage, since you would have to do a massive detour every time you need to transfer from Atlantic to Pacific. As a result, hunge number of ships are sized to exactly and barely fit the canal, so you can have as big a ship as possible, that is still capable of passing the canal. So obviously with every ship you know ahead of time, even before it is constructed if it will fit the canal. There is no "attempt" or "guess" included in the process.
The Panamax size?
@@toddkes5890 Indeed, but since 2016 they opened new expanded waterways and now there is also the "Neopanamax" size, which is larger.
The book didn't have families on the ship. It was just the Trisolarian sympathizers, and one Panama canal guide at the helm of the ship. The character was upset about it, but he got over it quickly. D&D added the family for dramatic effect.
Well it worked, that scene was horrifying
I love how the guy on the left (yellow) is giving side eye to watch his friends reactions, and then......everything else happens and he's like? Okay? What? Now? But still trying to play it cool! LOL.
I love the writing when she's describing the Sophons, it says a lot about their species, arrogant.
Also I love the scene where Ye is like "Am I under arrest"
As if he has to arrest you to hold you there biatch this is off the books
It’s so weird that I felt happy for Tatiana when she saw the eye in the sky😂
It’s her religious experience
and she's hot
The explanation for the nanotechnology and how it was set up was done better in tencent. But I actually liked that Netflix used innocent children instead of criminals. That upped the philosophical and psychological aspect of this scene.
The chilling nature of the Judgement Day attack and the San-Ti show of force was really well conveyed. Nice pick up on the microscopic level of peril.
Man why am i getting "They Live" vibes! Haha who remembers that old school movie !?!? Lol
“He could look up at the sky in his own private rocket ship if he wanted to”
Yep. I choke/coughed at that one.
💀💀💀🧠
£20 million wouldn’t even touch the sides
Can you even imagine the conspiracy theories that would happen if that last scene occurred in real life?
Project Blue Beam! 😂
I used to think encountering aliens, even hostile ones, would at least do something good and unite humanity in a global crisis. Then Covid happened and I learned how fucking wrong I was.
@@AmarthwenNarmacilClimate change will fuck us faster than the San-Ti, and no one cares.
@@AmarthwenNarmacil covid's too small scale and invisible, maybe you're wrong but maybe a big thing could unite
Later episodes are mainly adapting book 2&3 to set up the story.
Regarding them telling us an awful lot, there are a couple of things. We know from Mike Evans that they can not lie. So if they are going to tell us anything, it will end up being a lot. Also, they told Mike Evans that they wanted to teach humans to fear again, and what better way to teach us to fear, than to reveal to us that they are in total control of our ability to progress?
did you guys notice that if you change the giraffe picutre behind you by a same size mirror, you won't spend longer time to edit the video lol.
For the remaining seasons, I have ONE ask from D&D, and that is to PRESERVE how the later books present time.
The cutting part was only a page or two in the book😂
I'm glad that they portrayed the true horror of this plan
The ship is Panamax class (as in, yep, Panama and maximum), it's said once or twice before in the show...
"Your planet is stable, their catastrophes are not really catastrophes," may be one of the most controversial phrases you can say today.
I would address that it's not the small beat the big, it's the fundamental beat the big that the fundamental has happened to be small.
"Very small beats very big." Humans never do learn that lesson, do we.
My ex-girlfriends sure don't.
"We can not understand their reasons." Um, yes, we can. Thinking you can't understand their reasons and motives is a mistake.
The whole bug thing is a fine call back to the book "Silent Spring".
Non readers of the books have an existential shock set for the second series. I can see why they have done the series this way. The nature of the Dark Forest is unrevealed. To give you an idea there are some species who have not even originated from the 3rd dimension..but their weapons are so deadly they lead to eventual collapse of the dimension they are used in. Wait til you see what a Dual Vector Foil is, never mind a Mass Dot.
There is a RUclips Channel called Quinns Idea, he has a series on all books etc. … i found the series kinda interesting, but after hearing The Dark Forest, the DeterrancevArea etc. on Quinns Channel .. i am a believer. The ideas in this books .. the cosmoc horror of the universe..i love it.
Sharpness is thinness. They are the same thing.
one of the best episodes on TV
When talking about "raw numbers," large groups of people sound horrific. However, they are more easily grasped when expressed as a percentage of a planetary (or national) population.
Here's my question... The Santi accelerated the sophon to near light speed. OK.
It's space, so it only needs 1 push.
But then how does it slow down as it gets closer to Earth? It's just a proton
Well considering the massive amount of space they had room to program a planet sized computer on, I suppose they could've put in a ton of energy storage? It maybe somehow dissipates energy it has stored to move around freely like we see it doing in the POV shots. Maybe it can unfold and absorb energy from the sun to regenerate when it needs to? I feel like there's a way it could work.
the sophons can move by themselves, I think it accelerated by itself
Haven't even watched the video yet but that thumbnail is perfect for this episode 😂😂
The seires made the (correct imho) choice to focus on the people, the characters going through this story.
"Never help aliens" or "you forfeit being treated as humans" is exactly why Dr. Ye made the choice she did. We are a ruthless, stupid, cruel people who will always choose death, destruction, easy and evil answers. We cannot save ourselves, just hope and pray someone will save us from ourselves. We cry crocodile tears about slaughtered children then say they deserved it somehow.
so edgy. and a bit cringe
It's exactly why she is wrong, it all makes sense when you consider the authors alignments, as a communist he fundamentally believe in the ability of the masses to usurp the means of production to build a better world, this is shown in contrast to Evans ' "the masses are stupid" saviour complex
The Panama Canal has many sections. Some are visible to people watching
The San-Ti let Auggie finish her work because they knew that the Defense force was going to use her work to destroy the Judgement Day and get the Hard Drive, and they wanted the Defense Force to get the Hard Drive, If they stopped Auggie by resuming the countdown, then the Defense Force would be unable to get the Hard Drive.
There is something the Nanofibers can be used for that hasn't been discussed yet (but I have been told will be in the later books) that is the reason that the San-Ti put a stop to her research. So now that they have let her complete her research, that application is now open again. Will the San-Ti be done in by unintended consequences? Because they wanted the Defense force to get ahold of the Hard Drive, they allowed a technology to be developed that could, in the future, be used to help humans defeat them.
You telling me the nano fibers have a lot to do with defeating them or Auggie character is not that impot
Well what's stopping them from restarting the countdown now that the hard drive is recovered? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
But wh did they allow for the hard drive to be taken? is it spoiler?
@helloneighbour2408 all I'll say is they wanted the Earth Defense force to have it. Keep watching, and your question will be answered.
I'm late to the party, but was the bugs thing done by the ETO hackers? Because the limitations of the sophons should prevent them from achieving that, from my understanding they would kinda suck at manipulation of computers, having to change bits one at a time, for every display on earth, their speed would prevent them doing this in real time.
I guess they could have set it up advance, which would explain the recorder screens that arent internet connected, but this sounds like it would require a prepared hack for the most part, but things like the recorder screen wouldnt be affected - i hope the books covered this better.
The Chinese series didnt really do so from memory either, which was disappointing...
LETS GOOOOO! ep 5 is the GOAT
IMO they left too many characters on the... cutting floor. ;)
Replace all the parts with robot parts? The 6 Million Dollar man was 50 years ago, so with inflation that would be what? And when it spreads to the brain? Maybe developing consciousness transfer might make more sense. He'd die, but a questionable facsimile might continue.
Your neck must get really sore with the amout of head turning you do to look at eachother when you talk. No idea if it is a societal thing for where or how you grew up but i mostly see it in Americans who seem to do it the most, do you see it as a polite thing to do when talking you have to face them? Most of the time it does not seem register for me but when you do not look at the thing you are reacting to then i really cant not see it. Just a random thing that came to me, still nice reaction so thanks for that
Yes it's a big cultural thing here in the states, you're supposed to look at someone when you speak to them. It's not like a huge stigma if you don't or anything but you get very used to it and then it feels weird not to do it.
this episode was so dope
Mike Evan's inability to explain allegory and metaphor is disastrous.
I feel like even if he could explain it well, it’s still alarming to the San-Ti to find out that humans are capable of hiding their intentions in their communications, something they themselves hadn’t considered as a possibility due to their own subjective view of communication. No matter what, they would’ve made that same decision regardless
@dysn3961 The thing is, allegory and metaphors are ways of communicating the truth. That is the thing he failed to communicate to the San Ti. In any case, it doesn't matter because enslaving the human species was always the best case scenario.
if they have technocology to build sophons, they cant build a faster way to travel to earth like may be opening worm hole or something instead of 400 years?
13:55 boat ÷ 654
If the human race/culture no longer exists, then its problems have been solved because they no longer affect them.
This is also true of the San-Ti
The Sophons are examples of Clarke-Tech, and the implications of being able to create such a device completely erase the need for the Santi to come to Earth and conquer humanity.
9:10 _Thank you!_ So happy it’s not just me thinking this. Yes, the show reeeally has a small group problem, and you’ve got more episodes to go (unfortunately).
I’m gonna rant a bit below, so feel free to avert your eyes.
They have a bad habit of lampshading the really ridiculous stuff and moving on.
Isn’t this VR headset literally impossible? Yes. Moving on.
Isn’t it weird that Jin’s BF is selected, and also just happens to be “the best” officer in the Royal Navy? Yes. Also, Wade picks him before they even have a plan they’d need him for.
Isn’t it weird that Auggie’s whole “shutting down the lab” just meant she had to log back in to a single PC? And then move straight from tabletop demo to mass production in a week’ish? What will her company ever do without her? Yeah, we’re not even lampshading that, that’s just silly.
Not to mention that whether or not the San-Ti have abandoned Evans and co, that’s not a reason for them to suddenly let Auggie continue her work. As they themselves say, the idea is to _prevent_ technological progress.
But the Sophons really wanted to monologue, I guess, so better let Auggie go to Panama with her BFF’s BF. Crazy random happenstance, that.
Alright, well most of these can be very directly addressed:
-The headset gets explained. Yes it's impossible for humans, and it's found out that aliens worked with the ETO group to make this headset (alien technology, human design + monitoring).
-I think it is a little strange he selected Raj, and just so happens to select Jin, as the best people in their respective fields. They glossed over this saying he has his own way and reasoning about things. I think there's a good chance this will be explained later though. I feel like Raj's storyline will continue, and we still don't even know who Wade is lol. I think this will all get revealed when it's meant to. I do agree this was kinda left up in the air, but I think is intentional.
-Wade already had a plan, it just wasn't vocalized/revealed to us yet.
-I don't think it's fair to assume they just started "mass production" of the nanofibers when they needed it. We only saw a small sample get tested. Who knows what variations of the product they already had prepared, and how much of it they had in store. As far as we know, Auggie & her team could have an innovative process for insanely simple and fast production.
-& considering it's her invention and she's the Chief Technology Officer, I don't think it's far fetched that she's able to turn production on/off from a single source in the lab. If anything, I think even if it's not ALL-ENCOMPASSING of every action she has to take to truly shut it down or start it back up, doing so from the PC represents her motivation to keep it running or not, which is all the aliens care about.
-I think stopping Auggie's nanofibers was mostly about protecting the ETO group, but either way, after Mike Evan's conversation, the San Ti just straight up didn't trust him, and may have even WANTED Auggie's nanofibers to kill them. I also have a feeling their overarching plan will not be affected by Auggie's nanofibers at this point. But if the nanofibers do end up being a turning point in our battle against San Ti, then yeah it would be stupid that they didn't make Auggie shut it back down after the ship slicing. I think it's just not relevant to them at this point.
You make some good points but I think many of them are explained when looking past the face value of what's presented, and hold on to more potential reveals. Like- it took us 5 episodes to find out what was even going on from the 1st episode 🤷🏻♂️
@@AUniqueName Some good points. Thanks for taking the time! And I do mean that, even though I'll still argue my case :)
- What I meant about the headsets was that the characters say they're impossible - but then they don't act accordingly. I.e. lampshading the issue. You're of course right that the San-Ti helped make them, that's clear, but the characters don't yet know aliens exist. So they can only assume they're manmade, and rightfully conclude that that makes no sense. But acknowledging that issue doesn't in any way resolve it, and instead they just keep playing. Sure, the game's compelling, but at least, I dunno, google a bit? They're scientists, but they're completely incurious. Jack points out that you can't even charge the headsets; show a physicist something that teeters on challenging thermodynamics like that, and I'd expect them to, well, react. Funnier is when Raj finds Jin playing the game, and the conversation just turns to dinner with his family. Apparently, it's NBD that his girlfriend keeps wearing a literal impossibility on her head.
- As for Auggie's nanofibers: If the sophons stopped her work to protect the ETO specifically, then they'd have to be have seen the future. If they can do that, the story's just got more problems. So I'd like to believe they were just trying to stop her work on general principle, since it's a tech advancement and it's explicitly their job to stop those. True, they later abandon the ETO and Evans, but even then, why would they let us have a new toy? Or let us have the comms archive? Or give us the villain monologue? Why not let us kill each other the old fashion way and keep us in the dark? One might also ask why they would give humans that headset technology. Those sophons just seem hellbent on advancing the plot for us. It'd be more compelling if one of our protagonists actually figured things out or forced the reveal, but it's all on the antagonists.
"You are bugs and it's our stated purpose to sabotage your development, but please accept these gifts of knowledge and technology".
But for the nano-thing specifically, maybe the sophons realized they'd already messed that up. Because Auggie shut down the lab _after_ she demonstrated her breakthrough - people clapped and everything. The countdown accomplished nothing, as far as I can tell. If she'd randomly dropped dead, I imagine the company could carry on fine. Especially if they're already set up for mass production too. She's chief science officer, yes, but the company seems large and professional enough to know how to mitigate the so-called "bus factor" in their tech dev. And here the tech's already been dev'ed.
There's just so many contrivances, and it really irks me. I could go on and on with examples, but really my main gripe isn't those plot points but the "small group problem" the guys mentioned in the reaction. The story's cosmic in scale, but all our heroes just happen to all know each other and can fulfill any role the plot calls for? That's less plausible than aliens existing. Anything that'll happen in this story will happen to one of these jokers; no one else exists.
Case in point: In episode 1, before any of them have done anything, Shi already has photos of all of them on his conspiracy board. It's a tired joke but: It's almost like he's read the script.
@@ferchrissakes That "small group problem" made me think of the original production of "The Andromeda Strain." When the experts were brought together, they'd basically heard or read of each other, but otherwise had never met. That original version holds up quite well, inasmuch as it was shot as though it were a government documentary.
@@kirkdarling4120 yeah, that’s a good one. Most stories have a small group you follow, but, like in Andromeda Strain, _circumstances_ bring them together; they don’t come preassembled. In Andromeda it makes sense that those people know _of_ each other given their fields and expertise, but if they’d all been college buddies too, that’d be weird. The whole point was that they’d been gathered together from far and wide to form a dream team of pathologists
26:03 And if the sophon had just stayed like that for a few weeks, all the "bugs" would have been dead. Honestly, the number of plot holes the mere existence of the sophons leads to is legion.
Yeah but when the sophon is unfolded like that it can be destroyed by a nuke in the book after it unfolded they had all the missile defence systems on earth or just NORAD I can't remember so that if it unfolded again it can be destroyed they were just caught off guard.
The sophon is vulnerable to attack from conventional and nuclear attack when unfolded like that. In the book it won’t unfold on Earth for this reason.
@@AmanCreatesArt if it unfolded far enough away from the planet, and especially if it did so before we even knew what a sophon was, then nukes would be worthless against it. Also, I don’t know why it would be vulnerable against a nuke, and yet be perfectly capable of shrinking down to the size of a proton and putting itself in the path of a particle accelerator beam with absolutely no ill effect.
Speaking of tiny and destructive...
"Something small being highly destructive." Spoiler alert.
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If I destroy you, what business is it of yours?
Can’t wait for that scene! 😅
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