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Can you move Windows 11 from one PC to another... Let's find out!
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Jays face of thinking is the mark of everyone when they can’t remember what they do regularly
Poor Jay got messed w Microsoft and deleted one of his partitions..
The ending is one of the reason I watch this channel. The mistakes that anyone could make help us learn as much as, if not more than, a video where all goes according to plan. Thanks, Jay.
True that man!
By allowing someone to make his, or her own mistakes, it causes them to snap out of 'Drone-Mode', where they're continuously looking to their trainer/boss for all the answers, even after having heard the solution several times. They almost immediately start to think much more critically, and they start learning four times faster than before. I agree, it's nice to see the human side of Jay.
You have to enable pci-e bifurcation to use those multiple drive cards In a x16 slot.
This, 100%.
@@Jared01 scam
Was pretty much gonna say the same thing : pcie bifurcation
Yeah I had the same issue but that only workings if you can bifurcation slots other than slot 1
@@tsuki2000 yeah I reported them already. The 100% was to Bifurcation.
Bookmarked for 4 years from now when I'm forced off win 10 🤣🤣
I will be upgrading to pop os at that point
@@tj71520 I have an older drive with Linux cinnamon and mint on it but I literally only have a jetpack for internet and the wifi dongles I got aren't compatible with Linux so I pretty much hit an instant roadblock lol
I'm not able to "get" anything...
Gonna be back here if I need to when I change from (same make) X470/3600 to B550/5800X - hopefully won't be 4 years, mind...
Right! Lol
Months*
Actually pretty impressive how both Windows 10 and by extension 11 have become quite resilient to complete system transplants to the point of going through the UPnP part of OOBE again to re-orient themselves. Windows 7 and earlier would just *freak* and go right to BSOD if you attempted that.
Not really i have taken hard drive from a windows 7 laptop and put it in to my desktop and it booted but there was some resolution issues
@@11creeper45 Originally depended on the driver for the boot device. Windows recorded it in the registry and would only attempt to boot off of that.
If it was similar enough then you could get away with it, otherwise you would just get the inaccessible boot device error.
These days, it is possible to have big changes in the hardware as long as any required drivers are present in the Windows driver store.
@@executor32 Mhm. But your comment is getting into territory not implied by this video. That is, not just a simple drive transplant.
Also remember, this is what the Windows RE stuff is there for. I have had a couple of cases where I have transplanted a drive, the install failed to boot, Windows RE kicked in and then startup repair fixed it.
Fucking love that. Makes hardware upgrade so easy instead of dreading it and then taking months to get everything where and how I like it.
what's impressive is how they managed to make it not be able to do that for so long
Jay if you have a 3d printer, which i assume you do. Just do a quick cylinder design to go around that m.2 adapter, and then have a slot in the cylinder that matches the port so the drive can slide through the cylinder into the port. Just have the drive sticking out like 1/4. This will give you the protection you need until such docking exists.
good idea
And it's an excellent excuse to go back to the Tustin Microcenter to go get a 3d printer. :)
M.2 docks? They exist already, no need to improvise.
Another option, or in addition to that (they're not mutually exclusive), put some blu-tack on the bottom of the base to prevent it from tipping over.
For anyone reading, if you've got bitlocker enabled on a drive which is enabled by default now on a clean build of Win11, be super careful about moving a drive between systems as it'll flag something and knock the drive off. You might/should be able to get the recovery keys from your MS account, but maybe not, but you'll get the same issue as Jay had there with the drive not showing up in the foreign system. It won't even go back into the original build without the recovery key being entered.
Yes you can
LOL!
Thank you for saving me 16mins
Only windows 11? Or do you know if windows 10 is possible
Only 115 likes? Let me change that
@@SunBearDabsworks with both, could he tricky if going from like an I3 to an I9
Knowing that I'm not the only person who goofs like that gives me an immense amount of psychological reassurance. Thanks Jay!
Jay - Steve has revealed that you were behind EVGA's stolen truckload of GPUs. You're on the run now
Yeah. They even have evidence, Video and they did tell us how you did make a Deal with Micro Center as well. It all makes Sense. You cant run.
Kappa (Sarcasm)
*FBI OPEN UP!!!*
I have to agree the evidence provided by GN is pretty ironclad
So you guys are the ones bother jay huh. Poor man just trying to make content leave the man alone
@@bryanhoyos5543 Steve commands us
I've done this a lot. It's amazing how often it works without any issues. Even when you get the bug that places the boot files on a different drive than where you installed Windows you can still transfer the install to a different PC so long as you have both drives connected. Also, whenever you want to install Windows remove all of the other drives except the one you want to install it to so you don't have to worry about the boot files bug. Learned that the hard way.
I don't think boot files going on another drive that's connected is a bug, I believe it's just how Windows works but it's very annoying and like you said always unplug all except the boot drive when installing Windows (unless you'll be keep any secondary drives for a long time and don't care if boot files go on another drive)
@@adamd1347 did you ever get any driver incompatibilities doing this? Leftover crud from old system? I just did this with new CPU motherboard and RAM upgrade but was surprised didn't even know this would work. I've got Macrium also but forgot to try the cloning😜
@@adamd1347 ok thanks. I went from Intel to AMD build so I did uninstall all the old mb and chipset or other drivers just to be sure. I also ended up not running from the same SSD and basically cloned it to a bigger drive and set BIOS to use new one. Running clean and was lot less painful cutover than I thought it would be
If you want to use that PCIE NVMe card, for the second NVMe drive, you need to split the PCIe slot "bifurcated" into a 4x4x4x4 (or 4x4) , rather then full 8x or 16x slot.. Else it will only see the first drive.
Usually those 2nd or 3rd PCIEx16 slots are just x4 connected. Normally x8 or x16 (electric wired) cards run on x4 Slots (with reduced speed). But cards for multiple NVMEs are probably different, hence the bifurcation.
Looking closely at the video @9:04 mark it could be seen that in BIOS PCIEX16_4 slot is set to x4 bandwidth. By the looks of it ROG HYPER M.2 CARD is a fancy but dumb thing that requires bifurcation for second drive to work. At the very least I don't see any PCIE commutator chip on it like ASM1812 or PLX8748 that are typically used for this kind of duties. It means that (a) it hadn't had a chance to work for second M.2 drive as slot was in x4 mode - so simply no lines available for second M.2 to work with and (b) in case this slot supports x8 or x16 mode it would also require bifurcation support enabled for this slot (assuming that it is supported at all - as typically bifurcation is only available on CPU-connected PCIEX slots) and set to 4x4 or x4x4x8 - just like you wrote in your comment above.
I got a question I'm hoping you can answer. Here's the story.
7 Years ago bought a PC. Last Year upgraded to an SSD (keeping HDD for backup). HDD was cloned to SSD. I use SSD as main boot. Want to buy new PC to modernize CPU/GPU and all that. New PC will have it's own SSD with Win11. I plan on using this new SSD with W11 as boot drive. Can I install the old drive to keep my games and files? Then also maybe transfer some of those files onto the new drive. (Both are M2. but new MB has 3 slots)
@@Innnsanity yes, I moved my Steam game library from a laptop hdd to ssd, then simply moved the ssd to my desktop build.
Look up data migration tools and pages on using Windows robocopy if you copy folders onto fresh disk partitions.
@@ISO-ex2lg the bifurcation of PCIEx16 slot is assigning limited PCIE lanes away from the GPU slot to a 2nd NVME x4 drive slot.
It happened with 2nd drive in Comet Lake due to limited PCIE3 connectivity. Less problematic was AMD PCIE4 bifurcation as the GPU had enough bandwidth. Of course with iGPU all lanes may be going to NVME PCIE4 4 slot card.
Hey Jay, are you selling any of those gpus from that truck load you and Phil stole? Lol 😆
Used to do this a lot in a PC service job. One test drive with Windows installed could be reused numerous times. Eventually though, it will collect too many drivers, eventually getting something that renders it unstable on other systems, and we'll have to start it fresh again.
Is it possible to make one master drive and use only copies from it in fixed PCs?
Force an OOBE so Windows unloads all previous drivers and re-sets the drivers for the current hardware.
Paragon Adaptive Restore used to do this pre-Win10.
Very useful for when you go from SATA to IDE mode to RAID mode to external USB drive and so on.
When you swap a drive from one pc to another, do you have to uninstall all the old MB/drivers? How can you easily do that?
@@JustALittleRTX exact same thing I was wondering is there a bunch of junk files and incompatible drivers left when doing this kind of swap
Needed: Someone to drive the getaway car.
Job: Going to Jay's office, and stealing a few video cards or full on systems.
🤣🤣
This was fantastic to see. My biggest concern with upgrading to Windows 11 was the question of what would happen if some of my hardware died and I had to put my m.2 in another system? From the little I understood about Windows cryptography and TPM I assumed the drive would not be able to be decrypted and read without the original TPM module, but according to your findings that's absolutely not the case. Good to know.
It still is the case. The drive decryption keys are stored in the TPM, BUT drive encryption isn't enabled by default when installing from media. If you enabled BitLocker then you would be screwed if you didn't have the recovery key (unless you used a hardware device instead of TPM for the decryption key)
The TPM requirement is for secure boot so that Microsoft's keys can be stored and checked on startup to ensure that no critical system files have been tampered with.
As others have mentioned, stuff like drive risers tend to need the slot configuring to 4+4 (for an electrically x8 slot) or 4+4+4+4 (for a "proper" x16). Splits the slot up and *should* allow you to mix and match drives as much as you like.
Did you remember set 4x4x4x4x splitting for that PCIe-port?
Anyway, changing platforms with current date Windows installation works just fine, even Greg Salazar were claiming that it's very bad thing to do. Also there shouldn't be even any problems with activation if old installation had valid Windows 10 license.
@@Davidx_117 These days you can just tell Windows to swap the activation if you have the key linked to a Microsoft account.
But in general, if you have a key linked to a set of hardware, Windows will try to activate automatically.
@@darranrowe174 Swapping activation only works so many times, at least in my experience (might be because it was an OEM key, retail might be unlimited swaps or at least more swaps than OEM)
@@Davidx_117 The whole point of paying more for retail is that it isn't tied to a particular machine. One of the main stipulations for a retail key is that you are always able to move it.
For OEM, it always depends on what type of OEM key you have. Vendor OEM keys have limits like being tied to a single motherboard or limited activations.
You can move keys as many times as you want some times you just have to type it in again if you move from one system to another oem or retail doesn't matter
@@darranrowe174 Wasn't aware (or just didn't remember) that retail keys allowed that, definitely going to keep that in mind for my next build. Thanks
Hey Jay! Steve Burke says you have a few extra GPU's!🤣 I've been a good boy this year!🎄
This is why a lot of people are hesitant to come over to PC from a Console. They just want to play there Games but wind up with all the added hassles that come with the PC experience. I would definitely suggest a Pre Built computer as anyones first PC. That way it’s already configured properly in the Bios and all the other components and most software will come pre installed. I did that and it made the transition so much easier.
The timing of this was perfect. I have my PC in pieces right now doing a motherboard and CPU upgrade. And yes, I had windows 11 installed on an M.2. Thanks Jay!
Hi please me how you moved you windows 11 into new pc. I am building new pc with new ram, new cpu, new motherboard. And i have installed windows 11 on m.2 gen 4 ssd in old pc. I only have one ssd. So how I will move my windows 11 to new pc.
@@proFFGaming2 You can just plug your m.2 into the new motherboard and it should work. *However*, I would recommend doing a fresh Windows install. You can download the installer from the Microsoft website to a USB flash drive.
@@G4MERtheGREY ok i will try this if it doesn't work well then I will do the fresh install
@@proFFGaming2 hey, how did it go? I am just about to this with SSD, simply plug it in new computer?(Win11 ) first I will detach windows key from my old rig and activate it on a new computer whe. Windows will boot but the main question is if it boot 😂Appreciate confirmation it works like on the video.
@@IIPAGOII i worked normally no problem happened. If your windows doesn't activate reply here.
3:15, you can hold Del instead of spamming it :)
Spamming feels nice
Depends on motherboard, holding it down can give keyboard error
Thank you, Jay, for taking us along for the ride. Yes, This exact situation has happened to me at least twice on other people's systems. Glad to see it's a thing.
Pci-e bifurcation is a setting you have to set for the pci-e slot where the hyper-x is plugged in, or you will only see one drive.
100% this. I have the PCIEx3 version of this that supports 4 drives and saw the same thing before bifurcating the slot.
Was so frustrating to watch,. because you are right of course. Also, you can't hot plug nvme USB drives like that... As he learned when he unplugged the USB device and plugged it back in.
@@edwardallenthree sorry, what cant you just USB plug an M.2?
@@RedStyla yes! But you can't plug the nvme in while the drive is connected. USB is hotplugable. Nvme (in this case) is not. It's subtle, but this along with the very real risk of the drive breaking is why this particular nvme USB adapter is a bad deal.
pretty sure he just needed to enable PCIe bifurcation in his BIOS to get them both working in that enclosure
Jay we know you stole that truck of graphics cards from EVGA!
Don't you have to enable PCIe bifurcation to put multiple drives on those M.2 carrier cards?
yes, yes you do.
Jay I started watching your channel just before the pandemic started because I was looking for reviews on PC parts I was looking at. It was the first PC I had built in almost 15 years. Since then I have watched every video, subscribed to RTFM, and entered every contest. For some reason I jumped on Twitter today (which I almost never use) and found a thread and went down a rabbit hole of someone trashing you because they can't read. So I came here to say just keep doing you. Your content is great. I appreciate all your opinions and thoughts, and these giveaways are fantastic when it's such a pain to get parts out there right now. You can't please everyone, but the ones you don't please apparently can't read. Keep up the good work!
We caught you jay! We know you stole the truckload of graphics cards >.<
-GN Steve
I found out that this works by accident :)
When Windows 11 launched I installed it on my 7700K machine as an upgrade. But a few weeks later I upgraded to a 5800X.
I wanted to install Windows 11 on my new NVMe SSD but I forgot to go to the UEFI to change the boot order. The new mainboard defaulted to my older SATA SSD with the Windows 11 install.
Windows launched just fine for me as well. But I decided to do a fresh install on the new SSD anyway.
Good thing you did as in the past going from one platform to another like that could lower performance by up to 13%. I haven't seen tests to see if windows 11 behaves the same way but better to be safe.
gigaBRAIN
@@retrosimon9843 Oh yes absolutely. I always want a fresh Windows installation when I make major changes to the hardware.
And it was worth it, all benchmarks are in line with other results I found online :)
@@olo398 More like galaxy brain sized brain fart...
But hey at least nothing could have broken from that and it was a confirmation that the hardware works.
This is why I love your channel so much, you've helped me more than you could possibly know on a myriad of tech issues. So many other youtubers and websites I've gone to have said to never do this, especially when switching from Intel or AMD or vice verse. I've done it myself between two intel systems, but after building my first custom PC myself, and switching from Intel to AMD, I've been iffy on whether or not I should hotswap my C drive. Seeing you do it here with absolutely no issue, and hearing you say that you can do it with the same result across CPU and Motherboard brands fills me with confidence that it will work precisely because I trust your opinion after your repeatedly showing the entire process yourself and showing definitively that things work exactly how you say they will.
I have upgraded my PC from a Core i7 6800K to a Ryzen 9 3900x and I just have transferred my NVMe SSD with Windows 10 from the old motherboard to the new one and it just worked out of the box! Of course I have uninstalled the old chipset and on-board peripherals drivers first and installed all the needed drivers afterwards. It works like a charm! A few weeks later I have upgraded that Windows 10 installation with Windows 11. Also no problems at all! Long gone are those times where it was pain in the butt if you wanted to change your hardware!
@JayzTwoCents What’s that? Oo
Even Vista did the drive moving relatively painless already and windumb has only gotten more resilient in that regard.
Just one tip for everybody:
When you do a clean install of Windows, DISCONNECT ALL OTHER DRIVES.
Windumb likes to put different partitions and parts of itself on different drives for some stupid reason.
Yeah that took me too long to figure out XD I had 2 M.2 drives, and when installing windows on the new one i kept getting intallation errors. Found out I had to remove the first m.2 and install
What I take from this is always know where your files are going lmao
I have a theory about the external M.2 drive adapter. Jay claims it's Hot Swap capable, and I'm pretty sure it isn't. At least not the way he used it.
Doing some searching I found what looks like the exact same model of M.2 dock and looking at the manufacturers site I found the instructions Turns out that you have to insert the M.2 drive with the dock unattached, and only after that connect the dock to the USB port. It's still hot swap of a kind, just not the way Jay tried to do it. Also before removing the drive the OS should be told to detach the drive just like you do with any kinds of USB attached drive, and should also do with true Hot Swap capable drives. After that the dock should be detached from the USB port before the drive is removed from the dock.
Thing is hot swappable drive connectors all have one thing in common and that is the power and signal connection timing. The first pin to make contact is Ground. This is followed by the signal pins and the last will be Power. That way when you attach a drive it will be grounded before the signal pins connect which protects both the drive and the controller from damage. Power is connected after all other pins and allows the drives controller to power up in a controlled manner with no wild fluctuations on the signal pins or open circuits.
The M.2 edge connector is not configured in this way, instead all the pins make contact almost, but not quite at the same time. It's still possible to make a hot swap capable dock for it, but it's not as straight forward as it is for a interface intended for it. I can see two obvious ways to implement this, one being to have a switch or other sensor that detect when the M.2 device bottoms out in the connector and only apply power after this happens. The other way would be to monitor the ground and power pins for a change in impedance and only apply power some time after this was detected and hope that the drive has been fully seated by then. The advantage of the second approach is that there is no extra sensor or switch needed. These are things that could fail and add complexity. The disadvantage is that if the user is fapping about the drive might not be fully seated when the drive power is applied. Alternatively you can let the controller take more time between detection and applying power, but any more than a second or so and the user may get impatient and yank the drive thinking the insertion wasn't detected.
A third way would be to have a switch on the dock that you use to turn on the power only after the drive has been securely inserted. I found several M.2 USB docking stations that used this approach, but the one Jay used isn't among those.
Actually you don't need TPM to just run Win11. The check is done only during installation. Win11 can be installed on a potato using some workarounds.
You don't need to worry about the Windows licence. As long as Windows was activated on the motherboard before, it's registered on MS servers and Windows will activate automatically.
STEVE IS ON TO YOU! Gamers nexus has accused you of stealing a truckload of cards from EVGA
Just thought I’d let you know
Jay! Thanks for doing what you are doing! Your videos are keeping me going especially right now since I can’t have a pc to do things with myself! So thanks and keep up the great work!
I have the same issue with the Hyper M.2 card, have to set the motherboard PCIE slot to RAID x8 mode even if you aren't using RAID. This enables the card to bifurcate the lanes and allocate them to each drive.
I can’t be the only person whose excited for December and your everyday videos! My morning drive to works are so boring!!!
I upgraded to windows 11 on my 9700k system, then upgraded that system to a 12700k, the only thing i moved over was i kept my ram and 3080ti and m.2 drives that already had windows 11 and all my games, it booted right up wand worked without issue, all i had to do after was go to microsoft website and reactivate windows due to hardware change
Swapping drives between systems like this, particularly AMD to Intel and vice versa, can negatively impact performance.
Multiple channels have done benchmarks in the past on this. If this remains the case with windows 11 needs to be tested.
Really appreciate you showing the struggle and how you think outside of the case to try things that I learn from
Love going back to these old videos. Hadn't seen this, and really good information to know.
Love these type of videos Jay.
It really shows that even after all your years of experience with PCs these issues still happen, and your thought process on how you fix the issues.
I've used the same key for windows since I bought a prebuilt 4 years ago. I've swapped cpu and mobos 3 times and never got the activation problems
I think if you sign in with an e-mail address the key is assigned to that, as long as you sign in with the same email the key will work
@@paulraw that would work make sense
@@paulraw Up to a point, yes.
If you move the install too many times within a certain time-period (I think its 12 months) MS "deactivates" the key, and you have to contact them to get it reactivated.
@@The_Keeper - I didn't know that
@@The_Keeper Yes. I had to call a number and do the whole manual installation id dance with a talking computer lol
I've done it 5 times! One time was from Intel to AMD. Never had an issue. And it originally started out as Windows 7Pro in 2013, now Windows 10Pro. All on the same ticket! Oh, and I swapped from a 1TB HDD to a 1TB M.2 Nvme via cloning.... (Still have the Original Win7Pro Disc even).
Last week I finally found a motherboard and cpu compatible to work with my PC (the motherboard died while on normal operation last month.) and I was worried about what I was going to do to get my hard drives and data to behave with the new hardware. I was super concerned when windows booted and it was giving a "preparing devices" message like in this video. To think it was all normal, lol. First experience with this sort of thing for me, but glad guides like this exist!
Moved my drive with Win 11 to a new 12900K build and apart from Epson scanner not liking it everything else was A1 in seconds!
Gamers Nexus claims that the truckload of EGVA GPUs was stolen by Jayz Twocents and sold to Micro Center for their Grand Opening. Apparently Phil Twocents was his accomplice.
You don't need tpm or secure boot. Just a bios that supports UEFI. I've moved mine to many computers including a i5-2410m laptop that had UEFI.
Could you possibly turn the camera around so we can see what's in your shop? I have heard a rumor that there may be a big pallet of graphics cards there.
depending on the m.2 expansion cards, some have be run using bifurcation mode, where teh slot is split up in 8x and 8x.
@JayzTwoCents can you try this same thing from a machine that is able to install Windows 11 to a machine too old to install Windows 11?
it works. ive personally put it on as old as a 2500 and i know someone with it working on a c2d.
drive clones through usb adapters don't "just work" (not for cloning an OS at least, normal data never has issues) the destination drive has to be in the motherboard and the source on the USB. otherwise it won't boot, either because of some windows bs or because of partitions not getting recognized as bootable.
Discovered this the hard way too... I have yet to find a way to properly clone a NVMe boot drive with these usb adapters and then get it to boot when installed in the mb. If anyone knows a work around let us know.
@@hammer9856 it ends up working if the destination drive is in its final position. You just have to keep trying...... After 10 times it'll work.... Yeah it's that ridiculous. There's no reason it shouldn't work but it always fucks up
Had the same "fatal error" error as Jay when using an external USB to NVMe adapter. Put the drive directly on the motherboard and it worked no problems. In my case, it was because the adapter did not fully support the NVMe drive and it was being reported as having a critical error when in reality it worked just fine.
Stop stealing GPUs, Jay and Phil
Microsoft: upgrade to Windows 11!
Me: I’m going to go from Windows 10 by upgrading to Windows 7!
personally turning bitlocker is a pain in the ass, because when you are updating the bios as the TPM is on than the pc will lock up and will ask you for a 32 code passcode for your pc.
I actually tried this with my 2.5"ssd, just removed it from my pc and put it inside my old laptop. Works well even tho the laptop is not supposed to be compatible with win11.
Jay we know you did it.
We know you stole the truck of EVGA GPUs and sold them to microcenter for your video. Tech Jesus has figured you out and alerted EVGA
"Who would be computer savvy enough to move their boot drive to a new system but computer illiterate enough to not reinstall Windows in the new system?" --me like 2 days ago when another channel mentioned people trying this.
I would just recommend uninstall anything like chipset drivers etc from old motherboard before doing it, and make a backup. Make an local administrator account in case issue with Microsoft account issue (pin not working).
And if you get issues, you can always reinstall windows 11 later if need be!
When i changed mine, in msconfig, I kept seeing my core count change now and again between my new cpu and my old one - performance like cinibench kept changing . I had to do a completely new install
Yeah it's always better to do a fresh install
I just moved my Windows 11 SSD from the old main board to the new one (both Ryzen) and it worked really fine.
Easier than stealing a truckload of video cards, eh guys?
Just found your channel recently, I love the way you present information! Messing around with PCs and various other forms of electronics for over 50 years but no longer full-time nor anywhere near as deep into it is you are, so it's a great resource to be able to learn new tricks from your videos! Thank you and keep on posting!
TPM 2.0 has to be active for Windows 11 to install. It does not have to be active to run. Plenty of info out there on how to install Windows 11 on non TPM2.0 hardware. it all comes down to installation.
Thanks for putting my beginner worries to rest. Bought a prebuilt, building my own from scratch. Thanks!
Good toknow that SSD Card, can be switched. My motherboard had ram failure
Would really like to see a video on migrating a Win11 install from a HDD to a SSD/NVME..
Minitool Shadow Maker is free and easy to use. Walks you through the steps and reminds you to take out your old drive before you install and boot from the new drive. (There's complications if you have both connected and try to boot)
Welcome to the world of upgrading ANYTHING on a computer.
my RAID failed, my NAS took 4 hours to get prepared
This is good to know since I will be planning to upgrade my drive solution to full nvme m.2 solution instead of mixed for when I get my next PC next year. :)
7:48 You're inserting your knowledge of PCIe 4.0 GPUs with 3.0 riser cables on a 4.0 slot into PCIe backwards compatibility. The motherboard you moved the M.2 adapter into doesn't support PCIe bifurcation.
Mr Jayz Twocents, you and your accomplice Phil are going down for that EVGA truckload. We have it on reliable Steve knowledge what you've done
since i cant say congrats to the winners of those 2 PCs in the new giveaway video ill do it here. Congrats, and good look to everyone else on the newest OriginPC giveaway. Thanks again to Jay and Sponsors for these opportunities.
Hey Jay, I heard Steve said that your the mastermind behind the GPU heist and Phil was your accomplice. 🤣
I moved Win10 pro a month ago from a 10+ year old PC still on a AM3 platform to a brand new AM4 build with no problems. I just had to re enter the activation key I used on the original OS install and it activated. After that I migrated the OS from the original SSD it was on to a 1TB NVME I installed on the MOBO. The new PC sure is a lot perkier than the old PC. : )
5:07 This is very important information.
There are actually people who will spend more on a smaller capacity nvme drive just to get pcie gen4 JUST FOR GAMING.
It does work, but for best performance you should always do a clean install. Hardware Unboxed just made a video about it 😊
The reason the second drive wasn't picked up is because that bottom slot is a x4 slot. That adapter card sends the first 4 lanes to the first drive, and the second 4 lanes to the other one. If it's not in a x8 slot, that obviously can't happen.
Going to replace my A520M in the next day or so and stumbled into this vid. Didn't even search for it, just popped up. Answered my q without asking. Thx 4 your vid!
14:44 shows why we love Jay's videos.
@ 3:20 TPM 2.0 only is need when you are doing the update from 10 to 11 through windows update. doing a fresh install or running the media creation tool to update doesn't check. People are running windows 11 on Core2duos and older without issues related to TPM
Yep, I just used the creation tool to put a fresh install of 11 on my Skylake laptop last night via USB. The only goofy thing with the install is that it requires a network connection to proceed, but you can shift+F10 to bring up the command prompt to taskkill it and move on.
@@jkvinsland it's really funny too how arbitrary the "requirements" are, as MS forget to exclude the Pentium 4 family, so if you install Win10 on a Pemitum 4 775 (either HT or D version) windows update says your computer meets the requirements and will auto update to 11 for you.
there where quite a few articles about it mid Oct
@@edison700 That's why I disabled TPM on my Zen 3 desktop, just in case. I'll preview 11 on my laptop as I pretty much just use it for basic browsing and streaming, but I don't want to be thrown into a whole new OS involuntarily.
I'm about to update my cpu and motherboard from an AMD a10 to a 12700k and this was a major concern for me but seeing how simple it was puts my mind at ease.
Did it work?
@@planetary2180 had no issues with the os once I fixed some minor stuff with my graphics card everything booted perfectly and first thing I got was the getting windows ready screen
@@raymondleepeterman8828 What minor stuff? I'm planning to upgrade my cpu, motherboard, ram (to DDR5) but keep my GPU.
Hello Mr Twocents. It has come to my attention that you may be in possession of a large truck containing EVGA GPUs. We have you red handed.
There's nothing like the anticipation of waiting for the BIOS screen when you boot for the first time.
a long haired birdy told you may have Gpus.....
Thanks for this Jay. With your investigation I fixed my issue with another nvme that I did the same thing you did. Customer data is priceless. So I bought some merch. Cheers and thanks again.
Those external M.2 readers are not "hot swappable" the way Jay thinks they are. You have to unplug the USB connection before inserting or removing an M.2 device then plug it back into the USB.
7:20 Phil slowly pans to the side to protect everyone while Jay shows plans for world domination
Very very helpful for me who has to clone a drive from an older Windows PC to a newer one without the same hardware in it and all the permissions have to come with or else we lose access to the door system.
not many people would notice this but when jay says the monitor features a 165hz refresh rate there was footage of the crew 2 which has a 60fps cap on it, probably just me but i found it funny
Man everyone always says you shouldn't but I've done it a boatload of times and had no issues.
the twitch follow requirement for the week 3 competition is not working I am allready following & it is not giving me the 2 entries so I have just entered as much as it will let me - thank you for running the competitions Jay you rock
Jay, the problem could be issued with the adapter, not the drive.
3:16 I did a Windows 11 install and turned off TPM after install. It worked fine. Just an information
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One thing to keep in mind - if you have a Microsoft account linked to your drive it may have bitlocker enabled, so moving it to another PC you may need to enter the bitlocker code to unlock the drive in the new PC. Something I've encountered on occasion.
whats that?
@@mykeebs3424 encryption you can easily disable it in windows settings
It seems that a lot of PC builders today don't take static protection into consideration when handling their parts for these builds. I've heard folks say that it isn't an issue as the machine booted fine following the work, however that doesn't mean things are fine. Some discreet components degrade substantially instead of a hard failure and then the card's life is shortened.
You needed to set the PCIe slot to RAID mode to see more than one device in the Threadripper system because that’s what enables PCIe lane bifurcation.