I have shot sporting clays with a Ruger Red Label, great shooting firearm for Clays and a price quite reasonable for an over under. Even a Mossberg 500 pump action with a 28” barrel attached. Again a great gun. It’s not about the gun but about the love of the sport, practice and in the end it is the talent of the individual handling the firearm. Enjoy the Sport!
Went to Ian Coley's last summer and picked up a Caesar Gurini Magnus 30" Sporter for 2650.00 in a sale! Fantastic gun, shoots brilliantly and they usually retail around £3500.00. Well worth the journey up to Cheltenham!
Can't go wrong with a miroku. Best bang for your buck accross the range in my opinion. Sure some of the higher end guns have some nice features but are they worth 5x and even 10x a relatively entry spec miroku- zero chance. Even the mk10 1 is a great shot better than a lot out there
The Japanese made Winchester 101's are a dream to shoot and some very pretty models are available ( pigeon grade super grade diamond grade etc. ) in my opinion a champagne gun for lemonade money. Ps love your channel keep up the good work.
can i ask a question that you reply in a video too please. i am a novice, just started cheap starter gun and learning the ropes. you have a habbit of focusing on exact guns, can you do a video ior a series of short videos on why certain parts change, the idea being that if i understand why these parts change and do what they do i can decide what too look for in my new next gun, so why ribs, i see them a foot high, split barrels, no ribs and all sorts of stuff, explain why they use them and why i do or dont want them... stocks is another one some stocks i see are more a kin to rifle stocks and face cheek pads, triggers and distences is another one i dont understand
Really enjoy your videos! Very Helpful. I am just starting out shooting sporting clays and shoot a browning 525l. I am really liking the Beretta 692 Black edition but, in your humble opinion, would my shooting improve dramatically buying this shotgun? I am enjoying the 525 and just wondering, am I better sticking with that to learn the fundamentals before spending almost 3 times the money on a Shotgun? Tia
Great video! I Had difficulty understanding your pronunciation of your favorite gun (the 5th gun you reviewed; the one that shoots as well as the expensive guns). Would you kindly let me know the name and specifications of the gun? Thank you.
Thanks Jonny, because of this video, I've bought the Summit and the MK38. Now my son wants a Silver Pigeon. Why couldn't you have just said get an old Lamber? I'd have saved a fortune. 🤣 No seriously, I'm so glad I watched this, both guns are fantastic.
Giant killer!..the good old 3800 Miroku, just as you said unsurpassed quality and handling for the money end of!.I own two which I only recently sold thru I'll health ,I purchased them in the mid 80s a 30"and 32"in grade 3 / 5 with many thousands of rounds thru ,the and never missed a beat and will probably do the same for the new owners. PS.The only clay gun I still own is a 1974 B25 A1 I've had from new. another great revue John. Regards.
The Gun Shop I'm bought all 3 ,trap skeet and lightweight game in 74 . I seem to remember they were about £450 each,a lot of money then,I remember buying a Miroku 800s skeet as new from a dealer about the same time for £140.sorry John I hope I'm not boring you guys but guns and shooting have been my life for 60yrs and I've probably owned over a hundred in that time.
Bah, I stuck a Wingmaster barrel on a Remington 870 police magnum and it suits me just fine! Maybe I’ll get someone to scratch a bird onto it to impress you fancy folk.
I mean an 870 works, im considering just getting an 870 or a mossberg 500 since they are reliable, low-priced, and high capacity so i dont just have it for clayshooting. Maybe later down the line i can get a fancy engraved over-under but an 870 or 500 is good for now
@@sushiwithasword5089 In my experience the 870 would eventually overheat when shooting clays and cease to function. This is why fancy folk will use an over/under or semi-auto
Good information. Please suggest me a shotgun over under especially for hunting not sporting. Hunting would be upland birds rabbits and ducks. Thanks in adv
Thanks for a great video. My nomination for a good sporter shotgun would be a Nikko 5000 II. I own a trap version with 30 inch fixed choke barrels (full and 3/4), fiddleback walnut woodwork and an adjustable comb. It balances perfectly and shoots clays beautifully - second hand it cost £1,300 including a full service, rejointing etc. I believe it is the same type of gun as the Winchester 101 and some Parkerhale models. Either way, these gems are worth a look.
Definitley Agreed on that, between the Nikko 5000/ Shadow series, Most any SKB and generally anything 1970-1990 Japanese built would be an awesome addition
Adam Perkins Adam,one of its main competitors in the 70s was the shadow indy which they did in trap and skeet the nikko and shadow were great quality just like the Miroku ,if you couldn't afford a browning b25 these were what people strived for.I personally think the nikko was slightly better quality than the Winchester ,and it was more exspencive but worth every penny . PS. John is very knowledgeable ,and knows his stuff for such a young man.
Wouldn't be the same without one in hand, and Blaser don't want to deal with us, so its fairly hard to acquire. My thoughts would be to get yourself an F3 instead, the F16 doesn't have any on the unique design and handling that the F3 has, so all you are buying is a name. There are many other guns out there at F16 money that will out handle it, out shoot it and out last it.
Excellent video - Really enjoyed the presentation belonging to the USA Middle Class group I like the idea that for about $3,500 I could own a sporting gun of high enough quality that I could leave it behind for my sons when I am gone.
I'd like to hear more about how easy a gun is to completely break down / clean and durability. Also, I noticed that you didn't mention any semi-autos. Any reason why ? By the way, I'm American and I can understand you perfectly well. These other guys are just a little def maybe, it's not you.
What does He mean reliable? My family has shot old and mid or lower range guns all our lives. Break action shotguns are all reliable by the nature of their design.
Glad I found this channel, had my first taste of clay shooting on a works outing and came 2nd so looking for a gun now (As you do!) Love the look of the summit ascent, decent gun I assume?
Thank you for the response! If I could explain maybe you can give me more advice? I currently shoot a Silver Pigeon 1 sporting 32" (8 lbs even). I am a decent shooter. At our home club which is usually considered a fairly hard sporting clays course, I averaged 87% for our latest 16 week league. Although I love my SP1, I am looking for an upgrade as I feel the trigger has cost me one or two clays here and there. Not many clays, but it's not as crisp as I would like. Also I would not mind a little less recoil. I am a fairly big/tall person at 6'3" 230 lb with long limbs and large hands (6'8" wingspan fingertip to fingertip). The SP is pretty slim which seems to suit me, but I feel like there is no reason I shouldn't be able to shoot a DT11 which is a thicker beefier gun correct? Also the standard Beretta sporting stock dimensions (except with spacers to increase the LOP) fit me very well. I have only shouldered the DT11, I have never shot one. I would also consider a K80 or an F3, but I have never even shouldered one of those, nor a DT10. I don't think it would be easy for me to find a used DT10 to buy in person. So in the end, this might be a blind purchase. Finally, we only shoot plastic wads here as thats the ammo easily available (Fiocchi) and I shoot maintained lead most of the time. The DT11 black interests me as the weight is closer to my SP than the regular DT11. So what do I do?!
just to follow up, i managed to find a shop that had a DT11, a K80, and an F3 that i could handle. I ended up buying a used but practically brand new Perazzi MX2000s for a few thousand less than the DT11L i was leaning towards! very excited.
what is the second gun on the list around 2 minutes 8 seconds. The generic Perazzi, I can't understand what brand it actually is, and the closed caption does not spell whatever he says correctly. Any help on this would be great. I would like to research it
I have a K32. Built like a tank. I find it a heavy gun. Nice on recoil but easy to over swing. This is my second K32. I wanted to see if this one handled better the the first. It will be up for sale before the year is out. My first choice is a Beretta 682 trap. Unless I want to impress, then I use a Beretta 687EELL
Why is the Miroku ugly as sin? I find them quite beautiful. Of all the shotguns on that table, the ugliest one would be the beretta silver pigeon, and that's only because of its utilitarian appearance.
the videos are great . i shoot a side by side because , aya 12 ga i find them to be better for me . please give me some tips on that ..........thank you .
I love Jonny's videos and highly respect his knowledge. However, when he states that the Beretta 686 is "not the most shootable gun in the world", there's got to be some more detail given for the conclusion. I own two Maroccchi Model 99's, two Browning Ultra XS's, a Perazzi MX8 and a Beretta Silver Pigeon. For the life of me I can't understand why a Perazzi MX8 is worth 5 times what a Browning or Beretta is and as for "shootability", well, that's about as subjective as it gets!
I love your channel, but how can you not include the Beretta DT11, Perazzi MX8 or Kreighoff K-80? Otherwise, title it "Best budget guns for Sporting Clays."
because buying a gun for more than 10K euros won't make you break more clays than a cheap one. A good gun is one that fits YOU, not the most expensive one... idiot!
Really annoyed that you don`t think the Silver Pig is beautiful. But then again I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Enjoyed your review as usual but you should have included a Browning to keep the wingers happy
This isnt very related but can anyone tell me why Sporting Clays is not an Olympic sport? I'm new to the shooting sport and I can't seem to find an answer to this.
I was always under the impression sporting clays was never considered due to its late arrival onto the shooting scene and it's layout. Skeet and trap are an easy open ground where sporting clays is embedded through usually dense scrub tracks
@@tgsoutdoors OK the chokes its close for sporting clays but if your good you dont have problem, but i worried about the point of impact barrels i prefer to shoot 60/40
Hi Men, can you help me for this gun? Can you tell me exactly the diametre of the chokes(17.4,17.5????) becase its differend for one gun with 18.4 barrels and with 18.8.
My dad just gave me a B.C. Miroku 12 gage over and under shotgun. I have 2 barrels from Charles Daly and all numbers matching of 375735. Does anyone have any idea of the year made and anything about this gun. I know it was a gift to him in the early 1970's. Thank You
I am relatively new to guns. I am familiar with Berettas, but not with the other guns. Could you include some text with the make and model. I have a slight problem with your accent. Thank you.
Any chance of indicative prices with these guns as I am looking for purchase prices as well and the video didn’t clearly say how much each one costs...
Is one gun better than another? Probably not. Does a particular gun suit you better than another? Probaly yes. I personally am not fond of Berettas, too slim in the hand, the DT11 is the exception though. I had a Laurona, lovely gun, would still have it had the house not been in the path of a wildfire. Then a Browning Cynergy Classic was OK, material quality iffy. Now have a B Rizzini Fierce 1, great gun it does better than me, it always puts the shot charge out of the barrel, 100%, just a shame my pointing average is not as good. It's the shooter makes the shot not the gun. Shooter and gun are a team, a shooter is not a shooter without a gun and a gun is just an object without a shooter. I like my Fierce 1, it fits me well doesn't fight back when I want to move it and best of all has no attitude, certainly does not get upset when the target fails to break or sulk when I take out my BR Artemis on damp and wintery days. If I'm ready it is ready. Do I aspire to a better gun, not sure I can say any gun is better than this gun, looks good and does the job it is supposed to, fires the cartridge, the rest is up to me.
I have shot sporting clays with a Ruger Red Label, great shooting firearm for Clays and a price quite reasonable for an over under. Even a Mossberg 500 pump action with a 28” barrel attached. Again a great gun. It’s not about the gun but about the love of the sport, practice and in the end it is the talent of the individual handling the firearm. Enjoy the Sport!
Same here! $500 guns break clays just like $50,000 guns
Love the honesty on each models strengths and weaknesses.... Especially the cost of continued maintenance. Thanks
After shooting a Renato Gamba for about 25 years, I second your opinion. Love this gun, turns heads every time I bring it out too.
Went to Ian Coley's last summer and picked up a Caesar Gurini Magnus 30" Sporter for 2650.00 in a sale! Fantastic gun, shoots brilliantly and they usually retail around £3500.00. Well worth the journey up to Cheltenham!
The best shot gun in my opinion is the one that fits the best!
That helps me so much, what a stupid answer
Browning Sporting Clay 725 ? What are your thoughts
Can't go wrong with a miroku. Best bang for your buck accross the range in my opinion. Sure some of the higher end guns have some nice features but are they worth 5x and even 10x a relatively entry spec miroku- zero chance. Even the mk10 1 is a great shot better than a lot out there
The Summit Ascent is awesome, I am shooting more clays than ever before.
The Japanese made Winchester 101's are a dream to shoot and some very pretty models are available ( pigeon grade super grade diamond grade etc. ) in my opinion a champagne gun for lemonade money. Ps love your channel keep up the good work.
I had a diamond grade trap, one of the best guns ever made for all round use. The parts are getting difficult to ding now however.
The Caesar Guerini is really, really popular in the Northeast US. I have seen them for as low as $3500 which is not too bad for what you get.
The mk 3800 is a great shotgun i have had two g3 and g5 trap but i now use a s/h Beretta 682 gold e 32" sporter it just shoot's so well
can i ask a question that you reply in a video too please. i am a novice, just started cheap starter gun and learning the ropes. you have a habbit of focusing on exact guns, can you do a video ior a series of short videos on why certain parts change, the idea being that if i understand why these parts change and do what they do i can decide what too look for in my new next gun, so why ribs, i see them a foot high, split barrels, no ribs and all sorts of stuff, explain why they use them and why i do or dont want them... stocks is another one some stocks i see are more a kin to rifle stocks and face cheek pads, triggers and distences is another one i dont understand
You have very interesting trigger discipline.The 692 is a gorgeous gun. I am surprised you dont have a Browning on here though.
By interesting, do you mean zero?
Lol never heard of anyone getting shot thru a video, chill out bro
@@jonathanc4321 do you even shoot
@@nathanwilson2116 does Call of Duty count?
@@jonathanc4321 you’re in the wrong place to be commenting
No Brownings? Ultra xs?
Browning b25 herstal I got one from 1971, and it shoots like new
I think I am going to get an over under. very easy to choose. It would have been funny if the 6th was an 870.
How about the Browning Special Sporting Clays Edition.. One of the best guns I've ever shot, just say'n...
Still have my Special Sporting Clays. The gun is still tight after thousands of rounds and a ton of number 8 shot.
Really enjoy your videos! Very Helpful. I am just starting out shooting sporting clays and shoot a browning 525l. I am really liking the Beretta 692 Black edition but, in your humble opinion, would my shooting improve dramatically buying this shotgun? I am enjoying the 525 and just wondering, am I better sticking with that to learn the fundamentals before spending almost 3 times the money on a Shotgun? Tia
Isn’t the Miruko a Japanese built Browning? Maybe branded differently in England?
Great video! I Had difficulty understanding your pronunciation of your favorite gun (the 5th gun you reviewed; the one that shoots as well as the expensive guns). Would you kindly let me know the name and specifications of the gun? Thank you.
Thanks Jonny, because of this video, I've bought the Summit and the MK38. Now my son wants a Silver Pigeon. Why couldn't you have just said get an old Lamber? I'd have saved a fortune. 🤣 No seriously, I'm so glad I watched this, both guns are fantastic.
How would you rate the browning 525 compared to the silver pigeon?
Giant killer!..the good old 3800 Miroku, just as you said unsurpassed quality and handling for the money end of!.I own two which I only recently sold thru I'll health ,I purchased them in the mid 80s a 30"and 32"in grade 3 / 5 with many thousands of rounds thru ,the and never missed a beat and will probably do the same for the new owners.
PS.The only clay gun I still own is a 1974 B25 A1 I've had from new. another great revue John.
Regards.
what a gun that A1 is as well! The father of all modern over and unders
The Gun Shop I'm bought all 3 ,trap skeet and lightweight game in 74 . I seem to remember they were about £450 each,a lot of money then,I remember buying a Miroku 800s skeet as new from a dealer about the same time for £140.sorry John I hope I'm not boring you guys but guns and shooting have been my life for 60yrs and I've probably owned over a hundred in that time.
I primarily shoot Perazzi MX8 shotguns, but I also shoot Beretta 687 EELL model and Beretta 682 Sporting guns. I love them all.
Well done sir. If I may sir, do you have an opinion on the Franchi 2003?
I would stay in this shop my all day long.
Haha this guy is such a good narrator..... Brilliant
Impressive knowledge very enjoyable and completely believable thank you very professional
Bah, I stuck a Wingmaster barrel on a Remington 870 police magnum and it suits me just fine! Maybe I’ll get someone to scratch a bird onto it to impress you fancy folk.
I mean an 870 works, im considering just getting an 870 or a mossberg 500 since they are reliable, low-priced, and high capacity so i dont just have it for clayshooting. Maybe later down the line i can get a fancy engraved over-under but an 870 or 500 is good for now
@@sushiwithasword5089 In my experience the 870 would eventually overheat when shooting clays and cease to function. This is why fancy folk will use an over/under or semi-auto
Interesting selection. For me a Miroku 3800 Trap 32" barrels perfect for everything. I have even used it for high Pheasants!
Epic guns for an all Rounder
Just got the Mk38 trap secondhand,absolutely chuffed with it. Reasonable price too
Good information. Please suggest me a shotgun over under especially for hunting not sporting. Hunting would be upland birds rabbits and ducks. Thanks in adv
Browning Cynergy
Uhhh Browning Citori(can be bought under $900 on gunbroker)? Rem 1100?
The video is talking about new prices, not used. A $900 Citori is a used-up shotgun.
Would you put the Browning Citori in the same class as the Miroku? They have lots of similarities.
What do you think of the Winchester Premium Field 12 Ga O/U ?
686 silver pigeon!!
Go Team Beretta!
john cook Sporter!
Thanks for a great video. My nomination for a good sporter shotgun would be a Nikko 5000 II. I own a trap version with 30 inch fixed choke barrels (full and 3/4), fiddleback walnut woodwork and an adjustable comb. It balances perfectly and shoots clays beautifully - second hand it cost £1,300 including a full service, rejointing etc. I believe it is the same type of gun as the Winchester 101 and some Parkerhale models. Either way, these gems are worth a look.
Definitley Agreed on that, between the Nikko 5000/ Shadow series, Most any SKB and generally anything 1970-1990 Japanese built would be an awesome addition
Adam Perkins Adam,one of its main competitors in the 70s was the shadow indy which they did in trap and skeet the nikko and shadow were great quality just like the Miroku ,if you couldn't afford a browning b25 these were what people strived for.I personally think the nikko was slightly better quality than the Winchester ,and it was more exspencive but worth every penny .
PS. John is very knowledgeable ,and knows his stuff for such a young man.
I really want a a 686 silver pigeon. They feel great and I won't have to worry as much about taking it in the brush hunting.
Very solid, and they look good with a few scratches on
I went with a Beretta SP sporter in 20 gauge. Great for clays and still light enough for the field
Browning ?
I’m looking at the Beretta 694
Can you use a side by side for trap shooting? .
For general sporting clay shooting, of course you can, but for Olympic trap, i would say you would be at a huge disadvantage!!
Sounds good to me. Double barrels are just works of art.
The third shotgun you mention, I could not make out the name?
What are AYA side by side shotguns like
In 20 and live in the city could I get a license and go clay shooting have no criminal history at all and have a passion for watching shooting
Any chance of a review on the Blaser F16 or your thoughts in general? Cheers :)
Wouldn't be the same without one in hand, and Blaser don't want to deal with us, so its fairly hard to acquire. My thoughts would be to get yourself an F3 instead, the F16 doesn't have any on the unique design and handling that the F3 has, so all you are buying is a name. There are many other guns out there at F16 money that will out handle it, out shoot it and out last it.
The Gun Shop thanks for the feedback. I'll keep that in mind :)
That said, they do look good!
such as? I am in the market for a gun in that price range, $4000 and the F16 was the leader for me
Would be tempted with a Caesar Guerini Invictus F/C, a 692 black or perhaps a s/h perazzi?
What is the Browning equivalent to the Miroku MK 38?
THE 525 SPORTER
Why not a B725 Pro Sport?
love yr videos what shotguns are good for women shooting clays, there is very little on utube and seems that more and more women want to shoot.
What about the Benelli 828u? is that a good shotgun for sporting clays?
no
Can you not use pistol grip shotguns for competitive trap shoots?
Excellent video - Really enjoyed the presentation belonging to the USA Middle Class group I like the idea that for about $3,500 I could own a sporting gun of high enough quality that I could leave it behind for my sons when I am gone.
I'd like to hear more about how easy a gun is to completely break down / clean and durability. Also, I noticed that you didn't mention any semi-autos. Any reason why ? By the way, I'm American and I can understand you perfectly well. These other guys are just a little def maybe, it's not you.
Good onya mate i shoot trap mk38 and love it its a real shooter
Hi Jonney would you be able to get your hands on a Browning GP Trap 32" and review please?
What does He mean reliable? My family has shot old and mid or lower range guns all our lives. Break action shotguns are all reliable by the nature of their design.
Is there any nicer sound than a shotgun clicking shut!
Yes a mossberg 590a1 slide racking in the middle of the night.
Tony 81 hiya Tony, depends if you're the shooter or the shootee😉
Especially when you hear noises downstairs at 3am 🤣👍🏻
Another great video, how about your top 5 game guns next? Thanks for sharing.
On the way!
how does the fausti sl upland stand up to these shotguns?
I’m new to clays what would you recommend?!
did you ever decide on a gun?
Bru in Merica we use semi-autos for sporting
Well done.
hi johny my partner bought me a berretta 690 I find it a great gun. what do you think about them. thanks bob.
my name is Johnny too and i love it!
i love the fact you love my gun (692 black). nice video fella :)
they are nice!
No Browning No Krieghoff???
Hola buenas tardes seme trono un cañon demi escopeta winchester modelo 101 tendras los cañones cuantonsalen ayudeme para conseguirlos grasias
no browning?
Not in our Top 5 Sporters, no. Great guns though. There is a few in our future top 5's
Miroku is browning
Same design but made in Japan, licensed by Browning name. Some subtle differences.
Right. Notice how The Gun Shop doesn't seem to know that...?
Glad I found this channel, had my first taste of clay shooting on a works outing and came 2nd so looking for a gun now (As you do!) Love the look of the summit ascent, decent gun I assume?
It is, great trap gun and general clay basher, just doesn't have the full versatility or your standard rib sporter. Where di you go shooting?
The Gun Shop Cloudside in Cheshire, great bunch in there, really looked after us.
Thats what you want, there are some clay shoots out there that dont seem to be quite so customer orientated!
@@bigleemac bosley cloud? This is where i go shooting!
what are your thoughts on the DT11 and the DT11 black?
Buy a DT10! better overall spec for the average shooter. For plastic wad only use i would consider the DT11.
Thank you for the response! If I could explain maybe you can give me more advice? I currently shoot a Silver Pigeon 1 sporting 32" (8 lbs even). I am a decent shooter. At our home club which is usually considered a fairly hard sporting clays course, I averaged 87% for our latest 16 week league. Although I love my SP1, I am looking for an upgrade as I feel the trigger has cost me one or two clays here and there. Not many clays, but it's not as crisp as I would like. Also I would not mind a little less recoil. I am a fairly big/tall person at 6'3" 230 lb with long limbs and large hands (6'8" wingspan fingertip to fingertip). The SP is pretty slim which seems to suit me, but I feel like there is no reason I shouldn't be able to shoot a DT11 which is a thicker beefier gun correct? Also the standard Beretta sporting stock dimensions (except with spacers to increase the LOP) fit me very well. I have only shouldered the DT11, I have never shot one. I would also consider a K80 or an F3, but I have never even shouldered one of those, nor a DT10. I don't think it would be easy for me to find a used DT10 to buy in person. So in the end, this might be a blind purchase. Finally, we only shoot plastic wads here as thats the ammo easily available (Fiocchi) and I shoot maintained lead most of the time. The DT11 black interests me as the weight is closer to my SP than the regular DT11. So what do I do?!
just to follow up, i managed to find a shop that had a DT11, a K80, and an F3 that i could handle. I ended up buying a used but practically brand new Perazzi MX2000s for a few thousand less than the DT11L i was leaning towards! very excited.
Miroku fixed choke it is then.....pretty much a no brainer!
And I did.....and it's fabulous!!
what is the second gun on the list around 2 minutes 8 seconds. The generic Perazzi, I can't understand what brand it actually is, and the closed caption does not spell whatever he says correctly. Any help on this would be great. I would like to research it
It's a Renato Gamba Daytona model. VERY Perazzi like in design and such.
Buona sera mi potete dire il prezzo di quei fucili sono per il tiro al piattello e che fabbrica di armi grazie mille
No Krieghoffs in the bunch?
Blaser review ??
K80 review ??
I have a K32. Built like a tank. I find it a heavy gun. Nice on recoil but easy to over swing. This is my second K32. I wanted to see if this one handled better the the first. It will be up for sale before the year is out. My first choice is a Beretta 682 trap. Unless I want to impress, then I use a Beretta 687EELL
Why is the Miroku ugly as sin? I find them quite beautiful. Of all the shotguns on that table, the ugliest one would be the beretta silver pigeon, and that's only because of its utilitarian appearance.
the videos are great . i shoot a side by side because , aya 12 ga i find them to be better for me . please give me some tips on that ..........thank you .
I love Jonny's videos and highly respect his knowledge. However, when he states that the Beretta 686 is "not the most shootable gun in the world", there's got to be some more detail given for the conclusion. I own two Maroccchi Model 99's, two Browning Ultra XS's, a Perazzi MX8 and a Beretta Silver Pigeon. For the life of me I can't understand why a Perazzi MX8 is worth 5 times what a Browning or Beretta is and as for "shootability", well, that's about as subjective as it gets!
I love your channel, but how can you not include the Beretta DT11, Perazzi MX8 or Kreighoff K-80? Otherwise, title it "Best budget guns for Sporting Clays."
because buying a gun for more than 10K euros won't make you break more clays than a cheap one. A good gun is one that fits YOU, not the most expensive one... idiot!
Any thoughts on the CZ Redhead Premier Target?
Not a common model in the UK im afraid!
Beretta DT 11 in my opinion is the best gun for sporting and the trigger is detachable and is just all around great in my opinion
Greetings from 🇨🇦, great channel!
Fabarm axis rs12 and cynergy
Really annoyed that you don`t think the Silver Pig is beautiful. But then again I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Enjoyed your review as usual but you should have included a Browning to keep the wingers happy
what was the name of gun #5 ?
I wish I could tell you. I only understood one name. #5 is the one I would love to know also
Caesar Guerini Summit Ascent 👍👍
Yummy yum
How about adding a Zoli Z-gun to that list? :-)
Coming from a Perazzi MX8, I actually prefer the Zoli Z gun for handling..awesome shotgun.
This isnt very related but can anyone tell me why Sporting Clays is not an Olympic sport? I'm new to the shooting sport and I can't seem to find an answer to this.
I was always under the impression sporting clays was never considered due to its late arrival onto the shooting scene and it's layout. Skeet and trap are an easy open ground where sporting clays is embedded through usually dense scrub tracks
Hola John, le agradeceríamos todos españoles que se pudiera traducir a español sus videos, son muy buenos, saludos
Hey guys, have you any of the Beretta ATA copies for review?
On Order - will give thema look over when they get here
don't get me wrong i had DT10 which is very nice but the 11 feels much better
Both great guns, but very very different to shoot.
I all ways enjoy your videos, (seems looks like you put on weight).
Can anyone shoot a mk38 trap gun in sporting clays. Its 3/4 and full in chokes
Anyone can, but only legends DO
@@tgsoutdoors OK the chokes its close for sporting clays but if your good you dont have problem, but i worried about the point of impact barrels i prefer to shoot 60/40
Hi Men, can you help me for this gun? Can you tell me exactly the diametre of the chokes(17.4,17.5????) becase its differend for one gun with 18.4 barrels and with 18.8.
My dad just gave me a B.C. Miroku 12 gage over and under shotgun. I have 2 barrels from Charles Daly and all numbers matching of 375735. Does anyone have any idea of the year made and anything about this gun. I know it was a gift to him in the early 1970's. Thank You
No Idea im afraid, if you contact Miroku, we have found them quite helpful.
Mk 38 is God’s gun 😄
Jesus shoots one too
where is the side by side ?
they're still back in 1890
I am relatively new to guns. I am familiar with Berettas, but not with the other guns. Could you include some text with the make and model. I have a slight problem with your accent. Thank you.
No Problem Sir
- Beretta SIlver Pigeon 30" 12bore M/C
- Beretta 692 Black Edition 32" 12 bore M/C
- Caesar Guerini Summit Ascent 12 bore 30"
- The Generic Perazzi Actioned gun
- Miroku MK38 Trap 32" Fixed Choke
Any chance of indicative prices with these guns as I am looking for purchase prices as well and the video didn’t clearly say how much each one costs...
I like morioka shotguns
Is one gun better than another? Probably not. Does a particular gun suit you better than another? Probaly yes. I personally am not fond of Berettas, too slim in the hand, the DT11 is the exception though. I had a Laurona, lovely gun, would still have it had the house not been in the path of a wildfire. Then a Browning Cynergy Classic was OK, material quality iffy. Now have a B Rizzini Fierce 1, great gun it does better than me, it always puts the shot charge out of the barrel, 100%, just a shame my pointing average is not as good. It's the shooter makes the shot not the gun. Shooter and gun are a team, a shooter is not a shooter without a gun and a gun is just an object without a shooter. I like my Fierce 1, it fits me well doesn't fight back when I want to move it and best of all has no attitude, certainly does not get upset when the target fails to break or sulk when I take out my BR Artemis on damp and wintery days. If I'm ready it is ready. Do I aspire to a better gun, not sure I can say any gun is better than this gun, looks good and does the job it is supposed to, fires the cartridge, the rest is up to me.
I don’t like the fact that he puts his finger on the trigger when he is not ready to shoot
I live in the states, NC that is, and I can't hardly understand a thing you say
I don’t see any semi automatic shot guns
John Shafer many clay grounds will not appreciate seeing a semi auto as they can hold 3 compared to the 2 in an o/u.