Spherical Geometry: Deriving The Formula For The Area Of A Spherical Triangle

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    Summary:
    ► A spherical triangle is a surface area of a sphere bounded by 3 arcs of great circles.
    ► Any spherical triangle has it's antipodal duplicate
    ► Each of these spherical triangles are intersections of 3 different spherical lunes.
    ► Adding up the area of all 6 lunes results in the surface area of a sphere with 4 additional spherical triangles.
    ►Girard's Theorem: the area (T) of a spherical triangle, with interior angles a,b and c, is given by T = r^2 (a + b + c - pi). The
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  • @MuPrimeMath
    @MuPrimeMath 4 года назад +236

    5:05 Flex on your friends by telling them that beach balls are actually colored in 6 spherical lunes

    • @michaeltedders1650
      @michaeltedders1650 4 года назад +8

      mathematically,Its called hosohedron

    • @vladanikin696
      @vladanikin696 4 года назад +11

      You can flex even more by calling those lunes spherical digons. That's an actual name, no joke

    • @paulfoss5385
      @paulfoss5385 4 года назад +20

      Vlad Anikin Never understood why they used the prefix di instead of bi which would be easier for people approaching the subject. I think it is long past time we just let digons be bigons.

    • @yimoawanardo
      @yimoawanardo 4 года назад

      @@paulfoss5385 story of having the Greeks understand you too lol

    • @vladanikin696
      @vladanikin696 4 года назад +2

      @@paulfoss5385 because of consistency. Di- is from Greek and bi- is from Latin so using bi- instead of di- in digon would also make heptagons into septagons. In the end it doesn't matter if you understand how this prefixes work.

  • @jonipaliares5475
    @jonipaliares5475 4 года назад +79

    Awesome video!
    The formula at the end also shows that the angles inside a spherical triangle will always add up to more than π or 180°.

    • @jonipaliares5475
      @jonipaliares5475 4 года назад +2

      @@cubing7276 I'm not sure if that's what you meant but, on planar euclidean triangles the angles add up to exactly π and for hyperbolic triangles they add up to less then π.

    • @dougr.2398
      @dougr.2398 Год назад

      Good insight

  • @calyodelphi124
    @calyodelphi124 4 года назад +79

    The most important trick that goes unstated in this, that took me a good ten minutes to figure out, is how the addition of all six lunes gives you the surface area of the sphere plus four triangles:
    1. When you add the two alpha lunes, you get just the area of those lunes.
    2. When you add the two beta lunes, the areas of those lunes overlap with the areas of the alpha lunes where the triangles are located. So you add the areas of the beta lunes PLUS two areas of the triangle.
    3. Same happens with the gamma lunes. You are adding the areas of the two lunes PLUS two areas of the triangles because of overlap.
    And there you have it. Adding the six overlapping lunes gives you the surface area of the sphere plus four triangles. Just substitute α,β,γ into L(θ)=2θr², do a little algebra, and you get r²(α+β+γ-π)=T

    • @a13xcube5
      @a13xcube5 4 года назад

      Thank you so much!

    • @pvasudev1967
      @pvasudev1967 4 года назад +2

      I would like to add that the area of alpha lunes also includes the area of two spherical triangles. The area of two triangles has to be added once but is added three times -six times the area of the spherical triangle. So four times the area of the triangle has to be subtracted from the area of lunes to ensure that the area is added only once in order to calculate the area of sphere from the total area of the lunes.

    • @aaaaaa-rr8xm
      @aaaaaa-rr8xm 2 года назад

      basicaly the 4 is 3*2-2
      but I dont understand why its 2pi and not 180

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      @molybd3num823 Год назад

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    • @esterina7772
      @esterina7772 Год назад

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    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 4 года назад

      @@ThinkTwiceLtu What would an angle of zero degrees between two great circles look like then..the same as an angle of 2pi or 360 degrees?..as far as i can tell it would..since either way the circles overlap entirely..

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    @chrisj7903 4 года назад +14

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  • @snillor999
    @snillor999 4 года назад +2

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  • @amaarquadri
    @amaarquadri 4 года назад +3

    Beautiful proof for a beautiful formula!

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  • @mrkhunt.
    @mrkhunt. 4 года назад +11

    Great video, that “Aha” moment was at 4:55 to add up and find the equation. 👏👏👏

  • @brucea9871
    @brucea9871 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting video. This is something we never see in high school - formulas in spherical geometry (much less their proof). In fact geometry seems to be somewhat neglected in school in favour of algebra (which may appear to be more pratical and is preparation for calculus). Sure we learned basic facts like the area of a triangle is half the base times the height but in school I always wondered what if we do not know the height? What if we only know the lengths of the three sides (which is much more likely)? It was only many years after high school I discovered Heron's formula; the area of a triangle is the square root of s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c) where a, b, and c are the lengths of the three sides and s = (a + b + c)/2. There are many other fascinating facts about objects as seemingly simple as triangles, such as every triangle has both an incircle (a circle tangent to each side) and a circumcircle (a circle which passes through each vertex). This is not true for polygons in general. Also each of the following three sets of segments in a triangle intersect in a point: 1) the altitudes; 2) the medians; 3) the angle bisectors; 4) the perpendicular bisectors. Then there is Ceva's theorem which shows a connection between the the lengths of the segments cut off on each side by three cevians (a segment drawn from a vertex to an opposite side) passing through a single point. And this is just triangles; there are many other fascinating facts about polygons and geometry, spherical geometry, and three dimensional geometry. Another topic neglected in high school is number theory. There are many fascinating facts about the integers and certain sequences of integers (such as the Fibonacci sequence) and some very interesting but unsolved problems (such as whether there are an infinite number of twin primes and the Collatz conjecture).

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    @sasmitarath4312 4 года назад +5

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  • @MathHacker42
    @MathHacker42 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful explanation

  • @mr_rede_de_stone916
    @mr_rede_de_stone916 4 года назад +3

    All about this was so desperately beautiful, from the formula itself to the yet quite simple proof and the animation - this was both highly interesting and soothing, with a great timing in the video, pausing long enough to ensure understanding but not to much to keep it fluid. Love it!

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  • @OCEAN_NINJA
    @OCEAN_NINJA 3 года назад +1

    I can't think something like this , this so beautiful visualization

  • @lopkobor6916
    @lopkobor6916 4 года назад +1

    This proof is so beautiful and simple resulting in an elegant formula that's also beautiful and simple.

  • @Prabhav26
    @Prabhav26 2 года назад +2

    👏Great Animation👏.
    Visualization helps a lot.
    ❤Keep making such quality content ❤

  • @samaryadav7212
    @samaryadav7212 3 года назад +1

    I was trying to visualize this from 2 days but the animations awesome I got that at once. THANKS

  • @John_does
    @John_does 4 года назад +11

    Interesting conclusion from that, which is a bit trivial in highnsight, is that every triangle and in extension every polygon on a sphere with non zero area, the sum of it angels is necessary bigger then that kind of polygon on the plane, does this extend to higher dimensions with oclidian spcaes?

  • @eliyasne9695
    @eliyasne9695 4 года назад +1

    This is beautiful!
    The proof i knew to this formula uses the fact that the area is proportional to the total curveture inside the spherical triangle.

  • @vma011
    @vma011 4 года назад +1

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    @MrPinknumber 4 года назад +5

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    @nagys36snn 4 года назад +1

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    @alwysrite 4 года назад +2

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    @user-yy5ru3jl5b 5 месяцев назад +1

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    @Binyamin.Tsadik 4 года назад +2

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  • @elnurbda
    @elnurbda 4 года назад +4

    Спасибо за видео

  • @roy04
    @roy04 4 года назад +3

    It took me less time to understand areas of triangles in spherical geometry from this video than I the time I took to understand why Heron's formula (basic euclidean geometry) works from actual math classes

  • @jeedux5804
    @jeedux5804 4 года назад +1

    A very nice presentation on the area of spherical triangle. I learned a lot. Tnx

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    @ronaldmorris8390 3 года назад +1

    So well done! Kudos. Keep up the great work!

  • @jacabezaa_4026
    @jacabezaa_4026 4 года назад +2

    Great! Now I know how to derive the formula to the area of a spherical triangle!

  • @NonTwinBrothers
    @NonTwinBrothers 4 года назад +1

    Very nicely animated!

  • @jeffbezos3942
    @jeffbezos3942 4 года назад +2

    Very impressive

  • @alpe6127
    @alpe6127 4 года назад +4

    Beautiful video as usual, thanks for uploading!
    I have a question however, the formula for the Area is: T = r² (a + b + c - pi)
    The sum of the angles in a triangle equals 180° = pi, so:
    a + b + c = pi
    Doesn't that mean that the Area is always 0.
    (Is it because the sum of the angles of a spherical triangle does not equal pi?)

    • @Spieder02
      @Spieder02 4 года назад +3

      Yes imagine walking from the equator to the north pole turn 90 degrees and then go down to the equator turn 90 degrees again and go back to the point where you started that triangle has 270 degrees you can have many different numbers bigger or equal to 180 on a sphere

    • @alpe6127
      @alpe6127 4 года назад +2

      Thanks!

    • @paultikotin
      @paultikotin 4 года назад

      As others have pointed out, this works because the angles of the spherical triangle sum to more than pi.
      This means we can do an experiment... Set up a very large triangle where the vertices can all be seen and are visible to an observer located at any vertex. Measure the angles. If the universe is Euclidean, you will always get pi. If space is curved you will only get pi in special cases.

  • @DiegoMathemagician
    @DiegoMathemagician 4 года назад +1

    Pretty cool, I thought that in order to understand the proof of this I was going to need very sophisticated mathematics. I am really grateful because you taught me a lot of hidden gems in geometry.

  • @EdwardNavu
    @EdwardNavu 4 года назад +9

    I expected Flat earthers being pissed here, then I realized that Flat earther won't bother to seek knowledge, so they won't be here.

    • @IsraelIsLikeWater
      @IsraelIsLikeWater 3 года назад +1

      How would this be useful in proving we inhabit a spherical earth? To actually measure spherical lunes (of they were to exist) wouldn’t be an incredible feat (given the presupposed size/shape of the earth). People could try to get a smaller portion, but they’d be basing it on a presupposition of the radius- their confirmation bias.

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    @gbporto9701 4 года назад +4

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    Such a high quality content, thank you!

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    @yeast4529 4 года назад +1

    These really are some of the most amazing videos on RUclips

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    @Invalid571 4 года назад +9

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    @emanuellopez8578 4 года назад +1

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  • @tsawy6
    @tsawy6 4 года назад +8

    Ahhh, and on a plane, alpha+beta+gamma would go to pi, making the term inside the brackets go to 0, bit simultaneously, r would approach Infinity!

    • @ArturHolanda91
      @ArturHolanda91 4 года назад

      Well pointed

    • @brandonklein1
      @brandonklein1 4 года назад

      Well, this reflects that if we place a planar triangle on a sphere, only 1 point touches the sphere; so we have no area.

  • @avyakthaachar2.718
    @avyakthaachar2.718 Год назад +1

    Awesome animation! Thanks a lot 🙏

  • @jwpogue
    @jwpogue 4 года назад +2

    A bit complicated, but an amazing video well explained!

  • @quantumcity6679
    @quantumcity6679 4 года назад +2

    You're work is excellent..... Good job

    • @quantumcity6679
      @quantumcity6679 4 года назад

      😂......ohh... I didn't see that....thanks for *tailling* me

  • @catapillie
    @catapillie 2 года назад +1

    the final formula is... beautiful!

  • @joni5028
    @joni5028 4 года назад +2

    Great Video! Keep up the good work. Wonderful proof thanks to the animations

  • @pyrokinetikrlz
    @pyrokinetikrlz 4 года назад +3

    Interesting to note that the sum of the internal angles of a spherical triangle is NOT pi radians as in the case of the good old plane triangle. The area of the spherical triangle would be zero, according to the equation obtained in this video.

  • @EmanuelSygal1
    @EmanuelSygal1 4 года назад +1

    Captivating and Beautiful, thank you!

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    @marmikpatel9261 4 года назад +1

    Superb quality great video. Top math visualisation channel on RUclips.

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    @funkysagancat3295 4 года назад +1

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  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom6592 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice video, thanks for posting 😊

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    @cosimobaldi03 4 года назад +1

    Seriously epic, mate. It's a great channel

  • @thebigoeuph
    @thebigoeuph 4 года назад +2

    Very nice video!
    I am curious though, in the limit of large radius (very little curvature) we should expect that even though the triangle would get very big, does the formula reduce back to good ol bh/2?

    • @sohanaiyappa3515
      @sohanaiyappa3515 11 месяцев назад

      Technically a straight line can be a considered as an arc of a circle of radius infinity . So in that way, every 2d triangle is a spherical triangle with the sides being arcs of great circles of a sphere with radius infinity

  • @lamaspacos
    @lamaspacos Год назад +2

    The proof come so smooth ❤

  • @catherinebuhat3657
    @catherinebuhat3657 4 года назад +1

    GREAT VISUALS! SUBSCRIBED

  • @lucasnahp
    @lucasnahp Год назад +1

    Thanks for this helpful video

  • @flaviorabelo
    @flaviorabelo 4 года назад +1

    Excelent video (once again). One point remains, for me at least: It's no trivial the angle between 2 great circles is the same as the one formed by the the arcs of the spherical triangle. Ie, the "inner angle" is equal the "tangent angle".

    • @hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236
      @hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 4 года назад

      I don't understand your question but isn't the tangent angle itself is the definition of the great circle angle?

    • @flaviorabelo
      @flaviorabelo 4 года назад

      @@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 The question would be: is the inner angle (the one "touching" the circunference's center) the same as the "tangent angle" (the one tangent to the circunference's surface)? For me, it seems to be, but it's not trivial...

  • @jiaming5269
    @jiaming5269 4 года назад +1

    Now, THIS. THIS IS IT.

  • @Nickesponja
    @Nickesponja 4 года назад +1

    Man, these videos are amazing! Could you animate a proof of L'Hopital's rule? I'm sure there has to be a neat visual proof

  • @msolec2000
    @msolec2000 4 года назад +1

    Angular excess times radius squared. Very nice explanation!

  • @gonzalochristobal
    @gonzalochristobal 4 года назад +1

    great video and beautiful animations!

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    Excellent you saved my neck thanks...

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    @AJLuna28 2 года назад +1

    I came into this knowing nothing and feel like I just learned a new language

  • @gabrielmello3293
    @gabrielmello3293 4 года назад +1

    Great quality. Keep it up.

  • @user-jn1sv8oq7b
    @user-jn1sv8oq7b 4 года назад +3

    Why are the sides of triangle only "Great Circle"?
    Can the sides be any smaller circles?

    • @quacking.duck.3243
      @quacking.duck.3243 4 года назад +2

      It can but it won't be considered a proper triangle anymore, since the only geodesics on a sphere are the great circles. Geodesics are lines which minimize distance, and are defined by the local geometry; in the plane they are straight lines for example.

  • @anushrao882
    @anushrao882 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video as always.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango 4 года назад +2

    This is nice. But how many degrees of freedom are there among the three angles? Does the third one depend on the other two? Hmm maybe not

  • @dylanparker130
    @dylanparker130 4 года назад +2

    beautiful!

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    @Starrkgamingy 4 года назад

    Galing Naman daming matutunang Tayo dito.. thank you for sharinng

  • @keyyyla
    @keyyyla 4 года назад +1

    This is amazing. May I know which software you use for your animation?:)

  • @rasoulkhoshravan5912
    @rasoulkhoshravan5912 4 года назад +1

    Truly brilliant. When it is explained that the some of areas of 3 lunes are equal to 2 times area of sphere and T. It needs little bit more explanation or I have to watch that part again.

    • @Naverb
      @Naverb 4 года назад +1

      First add the two red lunes. Then add the blue ones... They each overlap one of the red lunes exactly over one of the two green triangles, so we've overcounted by two triangles. Repeat with the yellow lunes, which overlap the red and blue exactly at the two triangles. We have thus overcounted by 4.

    • @Naverb
      @Naverb 4 года назад +1

      Also, it's not that the sum of 3 lines is 2 times the area of sphere + 4T; you have it backwards. It's that 2 times the area of the three distinct lunes is the area of *one* sphere + 4T

  • @rajatchopra5829
    @rajatchopra5829 4 года назад +1

    Wonderful as always👌

  • @princesoni7241
    @princesoni7241 4 года назад +2

    Please explain visually the infinite sum of natural numbers. Can you do it .

  • @52.yusrilihsanadinatanegar79
    @52.yusrilihsanadinatanegar79 4 года назад +1

    Thanks, i love it

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    @junemotour6888 4 года назад +1

    Very nice content like it.keep it up

  • @resadavidchannel
    @resadavidchannel 4 года назад +1

    Very cool!!

  • @lovemath980
    @lovemath980 Год назад +1

    Great, thanks so much. How duid u do this animation?

  • @tiandao1chouqin
    @tiandao1chouqin 4 года назад +1

    Brilliant indeed!

  • @DamaKubu
    @DamaKubu 4 года назад

    Dot comes to existence,
    dot moves -> line,
    line moves -> circle,
    circle moves -> sphere.
    *happiness noises*

  • @tzambaprama
    @tzambaprama 4 года назад

    yeah! but this assumes that area varies linearly with the angle which we don't now if its true

  • @nicepajuju3900
    @nicepajuju3900 3 года назад +1

    This is brilliant

  • @Louiscypher93
    @Louiscypher93 4 года назад +1

    Can you do the same for hyperbolic surfaces?

  • @portr002
    @portr002 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful!

  • @luisgcr
    @luisgcr 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful 🤩

  • @pool7216
    @pool7216 4 года назад +2

    It's beatiful. Which software do you use, please?

  • @mohammedal-haddad2652
    @mohammedal-haddad2652 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful.

  • @lebeymijares7606
    @lebeymijares7606 Год назад

    Change the music, and it was already perfect

  • @agrajyadav2951
    @agrajyadav2951 2 года назад

    Bruv uplooaaaaddd dudeeee

  • @emidude
    @emidude 3 года назад +1

    1:33 why is 4 pi r^2 / 2 pi = L(a) / a ???

  • @bastiana.n.4277
    @bastiana.n.4277 4 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @slavikvsvega
    @slavikvsvega 4 года назад

    For a flat plane, r is infinite and alpha+beta+gamma-pi=0 so the area can be anything