World of Warships: Manfred von Richthofen - I didn't sink 12 ships, but I did OK
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I had a great game in the Manfred von Richthofen. The MVR did really well in this match and I sunk quite a few ships!
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World of Warships footage of the tier 10 German aircraft carrier Manfred von Richthofen on the map North.
video title should be local bully blowing up lower tier ships xD
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Aerroon my boi is in a real run here! Blasting out Videos left, right and center… and I absolutely LOVE it!!!!
Thank you!
On the dive bombers, when you were approaching the tirpitz from the rear, you were starting your attack way too early. You get better chance to citadel the higher and earlier you drop the bombs. Also, you want to try to aim in a way so that your bombs will land near either the front or rear turrets to hit the citadel. Many ships’ super structure detonate the bombs before they have a chance to penetrate the citadel. MVR divebombers are good but they definitely need to be practiced with to be effective
you were not getting much citadel cause you were diving too late, the higher your planes are the more pen it has. unlike Haku planes which have to climb to get pen your planes are already high enough
pen does not change with high but with angle of impact
@@thelvadam2884 Yup, but as I understand it, the lower you get in the dive the worse your angle gets. So you probably do get more penetration from the bombs from high up I think.
@@Aerroon if this isn't how it works now it seems like not a terrible mechanic to introduce to try and balance them. Make the Richton or hakyru player choose between dropping from a higher altitude (and therefore less aim time and less accuracy) taking the gamble for citadels or aiming fully and getting lower but more consistent damage.
From what I've seen so far, even a parseval can overpen a Tirpitz if he drops from maximum altitude. But when it gets to about 80% altitude, it's guaranteed citadels. And below 50-60% it's pens mostly (or even ricochets?).
And to citadel a tallinn in that ship, you must drop to 40% or below altitude, or else it's overpens. So there surely is an altitude factor in pen calculation.
(Same happened to haku, the lower you went, the less the chances to citadel a bb).
i think this is my favourite CV game of yours, maybe of all your videos. That ending was so epically satisfying. Well played man.
Ship is beyond broken. WG really love destroying their game
It's one of the reasons why I quit months ago.
That Tallinn misplayed so hard and wrote "idiot" to himself it seems
that Tallinn at the beginning must have had boatloads of fun in this game ;)
He should've just dodged!
The problem cruisers face against these rocket planes is that the cruisers have to be at full throttle the entire game and constantly turning toward the planes, but the planes are so much more maneuverable that the cruisers won't be able to angle after a certain amount of time. One option to fixing this would be to increase the turning radius of all planes.
No, cruisers do out turn the planes. Planes can only out turn cruisers inside the AA of cruisers.
@@Aerroon it was pretty easy for a Richthofen to get on the broadside of my Amalfi the other week, though I wasn't going full speed.
I'm always so happy to see your video like this.
This reminds me the old gameplay on Cv and the fun i can take on this class, now (for me) is not the same. I’m having trouble to playing Cv :/
Well, thank you for this Aerroon ^^
PS: i have question, the stock torpedos planes on Manfred Von Richthofen, is not a good chose to play to ? (i kon the Ta152 have a better speed and health, for 9s)
CV just force everyone to stay on either flanks. That Tallinn in the beginning is trying to make use of space which none of his teammate have. At the end of the day, he is rewarded with getting sink by a CV.
Historically accurate👌
i was first confused about the title and thought "did he really manged to kill TWELVE ships ?" ..but well nevermind you did ok :D
Hero Bismarck, held the center for nearly half the game.
16:15 the reason why they have such range is due to a little know fact about russian anti-air: its actually just a bunch of crewmen with small arms. stalinium bullets, ofcourse, allowing them to still deal damage. the long range small arms fire is from the VSS rifles.
Wow! What a game! You make it look easy!
Yes, as you said, modern carriers are really annoying now that AA is weak, and CVs get double planes. I’m a BB main, and rejoice when there’s one CV.. or none.. in a game. FWIW, your CV games are the only ones I watch.
A better solution would be to match CV against their own tier only. T10 CV against T8 is just disgusting.
It would make MM a bit wonky and I don't think it solves the issue really.
I would have went for the other ship then the petro. GG!
bru the m. rikhtofen is OP AF
CVs make me believe that all cruisers and DDs need a heal. Going from the cleveland to seattle, I found the seattle more comfortable to play in CV matches. Although tier for tier, the seattle is the worse ship the heal makes up for the damage that you can't dodge which is from the cv.
I actually agree. Well, maybe not a heal for all DDs, but at least all heavy cruisers.
@@Aerroon for DDs I kinda just want a heal for the gearing since daring powercreeps it so hard and since gearing AA was butchered.
youhyun nam I enjoy grozovoi because I get heal and AA, and the concealment and speed is both good enough to either outrun or out conceal any ship. It’s better than gearing besides close ranges, smoke and torps.
I think they should add a way to see the pen for the rockets It would make things much easier
Imo we should be able to see a lot more values ingame like sigma, penetration over range, flight drag etc.
@@geschlittert I agree
One CV can scout most of the map and at the same time do 40k damage in the first 5 minutes of the match. Thank you for convincing me not to come back.
@@gharry-ik8fy Yeah, the damage isn't an issue by itself. I used to play high tiers and that's pretty reasonable. But, being able to do that damage and being able to scout so much area, all without risking their ship... It's too much.
Dudes having so much trouble penning a tirpitz coming from a Graf player I’m just like “ how”
Great job, Aerroon! That was fun to watch.
Thank you!
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the rolling of the r's
i love how you say the Name of the Carrier ... Manfred von Rrrrrichthofen :) Typical German for that Time !
Nice Vids and keep on goin. Greetings from Germany :)
Danke sehr.
I am just coming back after being gone for several years , CVs are so toxic. I can not believe the player base has not collapsed
It sucks to be an isolated target against a CV, but really, had it been much better being an isolated Tirpitz against something like a Shimakaze. My point being, if you are isolated, you become prey for multiple different ships, but most often it is the CV that gets the complaint.
A CV can pick up an isolated target anywhere on the map. DDs can't.
an isolated tirpitz against a shima is not that hard a situation for the tirpitz. You locate his position from the first set of torps and run away. It's hard to torp a target running away from you and if you constantly adjust your speed and direction, the shima has to rely on luck to land any torps. It might be difficult against a kleber but at least you can shoot back and the kleber has to be good to actually kill you without losing a lot of hp.
In the examples above, you can retaliate or simply run away and take minimal damage. However that is impossible against a cv. You can mitigate the damage by maneuvering and timing your damage con but overtime you'll still eat a lot of dot damage or citadel damage and die unless you manage to get back to your teammates.
Of course the CV gets the complaint, it would be far easier for a Tirpitz to deal with a Shima than the Manny. First, Shima only reloads torps once every 1:57 (at *best* without AR), instead of planes coming every ~40-60 s.
Second, the Tirpitz can actually dodge ship-launched torpedoes unlike plane-dropped ordinates. There is a significant (30-60 second) travel time from when the Shima launches torps to when they reach the Tirpitz where the Tirpitz can maneuver and completely dodge all 15 torps.
Third, every time a CV shows up with planes the CV is guaranteed some damage, whether it be 2000 or 26,400. A Shima is *never* guaranteed damage on every torpedo salvo; in fact, most torpedo salvos miss entirely.
Fourth (and most importantly), Shimakazes and Shima torps cannot go through/over islands like planes can. This means a Tirpitz can easily break line of sight with the Shima and *disengage entirely,* something they can never do against the CV. Since a CV's range is the entire map, islands serve only as decorations/AA blockers, and planes travel over 3x faster than the fastest ship in the game *you can never disengage from a CV.*
Oh, and a Tirpitz can even ambush a potato Shima around the island and actively fight back.
brutal....
i come from a game with a 27k strike to a desmo; but i dont like the german cv's. The HE is just missing, just my thoughts.
idk if this is the case, but my experience with AP dive bombers is that if you feel like you are mostly getting pens on it (For me in my Weser, the New Mexico is like this). I think it's that the space between the deck armour and the citadel is deep, so I try to drop earlier in the drop animation, such that the bombs fall at a higher velocity, and so the pen timer goes off inside the citadel and not the deck armour.
Is this right? Or am I giving myself confirmation bias?
The enemy team got Von Rekt
4:34 He could have uninstalled the game.
just asking could you make a video on the USS Ranger please
thanks
I have a question about Cv game play. Do you think that Cv raw damage is more important then spotting damage? Exp: 50k damage with 150k spotting damage. just wondering your opinion,,
I always wondered why CV players drop a load in the emty sea right after take off?
Bismarck got loads of plane kills from shooting the midway fighters
Is hidden menace still completely worthless? I want to try a sneak CV but losing 100% of your planes on the return is probably just too costly.
warrior Bismarck lmao
14:51 Not sure I like how greedy Aerroon gets. He's asking why the Petro secured the kill when he dropped torps? Dude, that Petro may have been fighting that hindenburg for a few minutes in a gruelling back and forth, and you think you can just come in as the CV from the other side of the map and steal the kill that you absolutely do not deserve?
Fair enough if a CV comes in at the last moment and steals a kill *if* it looks as though the enemy ship is going to survive, but i see far too often CVs wasting their drops on ships with 2k health that are definitely going to die, just to get the kill. It's selfish and doesn't help the team at all.
And this isn't the first time i've seen Aerroon get bitter in the chat. He does better in his games than 90% of the people who play WoWs, so he has no reason to get salty at all. In the situation described above he had already secured 120k damage, which is far better than average.
He needs to remember that whilst he's crying over missing out on his *5th* kill, there will be many players who barely make a kill a game, and a lot of players who would dream of getting over 60k damage, let alone 120k.
As a content producer he should try and act a bit more professionally I think. Everyone always complains that the WoWs community is going down hill and is a miserable one; I think the content creators could set a good impression for the rest of us.
We weren't guaranteed to win at that point in the game. I didn't care about who got the kill, but rather about the efficient allocation of our resources. Since my drop was already committed on the Hindy she was going to sink. Petro could then shoot another ship to add more damage. What ended up happening is that we both attacked the same target and only Petro's attack mattered there. Mine was completely worthless, but I couldn't know Petro was going to do that.
I've posted previous CV videos where I didn't try to finish off ships like that and left them to my teammates. I for rightly criticized for it in the comments.
About the content creation thing setting a better impression: I would rather people say stupid and silly things, but be more invested in trying to win than the other way around.
@@Aerroon I think your content is brilliant, don't get me wrong, and you're now the only WoWs player I watch on RUclips. Your actual RUclips commentary is very unbiased and thought through, rather than the rants the other creators provide. However, it's the in game chats that sometimes i feel are a bit harsh on team members and potentially unnecessary.
I think it was clear that Hindenburg was going to die before you committed. At 14:21, the Hindy lost about 4k health from a Petro salvo, and the Petro had clear line of site so was bound to be committed to firing another salvo in quick succession.
It may have been a case of tunnel vision on your part, but that Hindy was dead well before you committed and the torps would have been better used against another ship that wasn't being targeted by your team.
Bullying? Oh No!
You did more than OK, but not as OK as the Bissie. Big shout out to him in that battle.
I agree with you that CV's are not fun to play against. It's just too bad that Wargaming don't agree with us, or are too pigheaded to do anything about it.
You have been reported 12 times
Did you said to the Talin to just dodge? The truth is, there's nothing that he could have done, you wanted him dead and nothing could've changed that.
He could just keep turning. AA isn't useless. In fact, AA differences between ship classes tends to be more pronounced than between tiers when it comes to high tiers. And a plane flying at >6 km can't keep up with a ship's turning.
Lolololol nice 8 kills but still, how dumb could the enemy midway be to waste 41 planes on the bisko? Omegalul
I bet at least half where the CV cap fighters when they were brawling.
Hey aerroon, can u do a video on agir please?
Yes! I've been planning to. It'll probably be in a few days.
This carrier is not so good as it looks. It isnt a supporter CV attacking DD is hard and cruiser know to angle against rockets. The AP bombs trolling 1 turn with ship and all bombs fall in the water. The bombs fall slowly compared to haku. When enemy make a AA bubble it is very hard to attack. Richthofen is only good for farming DMG and i have it too but i prefer Haku and Midway. I can play better for the team is my opinion Richthofen is the Slawa under the CVs
Hi Aerroon, while you had a blast and I enjoy your vids quite a lot, this time you overshoot a bit on the AA buff. Seriously when fighting T8 ships that are without support in a T10 CV they deserve it. And honestly, put this T8 ships against a T10 ship same class... tzey don't stand a chance. Regarding feeling helpless which is so often complaint against CVs... what about being HE spammed by HE cruisers or farmed by Henry or Hindi... getting long ranged torped isn't feeling much better tbh.
So it all boils down to gane tactics and while sailing solo is stupid in CV game, people need to adapt tactics rather than complain. If you try to attack 2 or 3 ships on same level you heavily bleed in planes and won't do it often. Sure, you usually get 1 strike off, but that deals small alpha compared to AP salvos from BBs and damage per minute of cruisers is also much higher. Don't forget about the time you need between the strikes compared to other classes. It took you some minutes to take down 1 cruiser who misplayed. So while individual drops might feel op for the victims, CVs are not achieving more damage than other classes on average - check it out on numbers 😃🤔
Enjoy that shit while it lasts, they will soon nerf that CV and you won't find it so easy anymore.
wenn das letzte Schiff einer von ITA ist^^ ist es ein win^^
Why were you using the stock torpedo bombers?
good question
At the end he said that he didn’t have enough exp to unlock them. Idk, he has 2.6mln free exp and didn’t what to use 38k... oh well.
@@SebaX92 to be fair, the next 2 million free xp tier 10 ship might be right around the corner. (fdr maybe?)
@@k9tirion927
Fdr will be steel
@@SebaX92 because it's not worth having a bit faster torpedo bombers for that much xp.
You are missing citadels with Manfred cuz you are holding your bombs WAYY to long. You are playing like enterprise plays where it’s more accurate the closer it gets to the ship. Aim as to Drop from max height I get most citadels and hits that way
Fourth!
WG "balans" at its best. CVs are cancer of this game.