Well, George DID have "sword fights in every one of them", lol. But the more I think on it, the less I understand WHY he "had" to sell to Disney in the first place: If he didn't want to keep making them, then he...just could've stopped, and let SW be what it was! If he DID want there to be more SW, then he still could have remained the owner, just stepped back and allowed others *working for him* to tell newer stories, while still maintaining his original guidelines...Right or wrong, we're still in this current state of SW because of this odd choice.
For me, his most accurate comment was when he was sat next to Kathleen Kennedy and said something to the effect of "The Dark Side is about when people thinking they are doing something good but actually they are evil" as Kennedy shifted nervously in her seat.
Yes, although there does need to be some sort of balance to the whole process. That prequel trilogy was terrible because there wasn't sufficient pushback on the stuff he was doing. He was right to start with a 10 year old, but there were a lot of times where he was relying on special effects to cover up a lack of narrative merit in what he was doing. And even in the original trilogy, he would have made a mess of that had he not had great editing being done for him. One of the big problems right now at Disney is an improper balance between those diehard fans and the regular fans. I saw a video on the original Prisoner series where there was a clip from McGoohan being rather up front about being very happy that the final episode angered so many people. There's a time to do fanservice and there's a time to piss off the fans that are taking things way too seriously.
yea then if he is right since 1970 why did he sold it to corp.? In my eyes he is just as greed and as weak and now he cry to get attention. Fuck him, he shouldnt have sold it if he is so aware.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeThe prequels were not terrible. They were not perfect but they had their moments, and they greatly expanded the Star Wars lore and canon in interesting ways.
It was part of his business plan. He sells Star Wars for 4.1 billion, then eventually buys it back for $50.00 and a ham sandwich, then he builds it up again and sells it for another 4.1 billion. Rinse and repeat.
@@kecksbelit3300Star Wars in anybody else's hands is a goldmine but it's trash in Disney. Disney always lacks that originality and they suppress creativity by their own imposed "values" They managed to prosper in the 50 is because people still believed in bs
@@stellviahohenheim to be honest i think there are a lot of people that can even handle it better than george himself. People praise george but beeing honest after the original films he went too hard on it's made for children. While episode 3 was amazing episode 1 and 2 had it's flaws. Stuff like hire to the empire and the old republic storys to me even surpass the original films when i look at it without nostalgic glasses. The sith storys are just so well done
Don't ever sell them, no matter how bad things get in the world, ALWAYS keep them, especially if you have any still brand new in the packaging. On Ebay I'm noticing so many people selling classic and POTF Starwars figures in the boxes and cheap too, and they don't realize all this stuff will go up drastically in price, especially after George is no longer with us. It's only because right now the *Star Wars* IP is in a seriously bad place, times will change yet again.
It's not that Lucas was a visionary while Disney has zero vision for the brand, Lucas was also a world class sheperd and ambassador for Star Wars. He protected the brand and allowed it to grow without him. All Disney has done is sow division while damaging and shrinking the brand.
"allowed it to grow without him" Stop pretending that the EU was not the exact same soulless garbage as Disney Wars is. Lucas had nothing to do with it, and it showed, because it was cynical and nihillistic to the extreme.
@@galenmarek4582 I've read around 40 novels, and a couple dozen comics. Ranging from the worshipped Thrawn-trilogy, to the Republic and Legacy comics, from the Darth Bane trilogy to the Yuzzan Vong garbage and Legacy of the Force. It all sucked.
When seeing the prequels in the theatre, the first time I heard Vader's March way in the background of the soundtrack, building louder and louder scene by scene every time Anakin get's angrier, more confused, more lost; it gave me chills. The soundtrack was half the telling of the story of his transformation into Vader.
Yeah and the toxic fandom hated the prequels at the time to the point they sent death threats to a bloody child. I think what Disney has done with Star Wars is hubris to those fans and pretty hilarious now that I think about it.
Yes George is right about big corporations in Hollywood and this needs to be changed if we are going to get great stories for future star wars movies and shows.
No, the first thing that has to be annihilated is the woke ideology that has infiltrated and contaminated almost every aspect of western media, politics and entertainment. Only after that will you have great stories again. But that's going to take years and years.
He gets some things right and he gets other things way out in left field. He was probably smart getting mad, otherwise he'd still be advising and not enjoying his retirement, or doing more meaningful things. He needed to let go of this. LFL will be fine without him. They have everything he wrote. They'll figure it out. The main thing to remember is to have fun. If it's not fun, wait for the next thing.
@@DaleESkywalker so just wait until they learn to make propaganda fun and then it will be fine to consume propaganda. Remember guys doesnt matter the propaganda if its fun. I hope nazis wont learn how to make their propaganda fun cause weaklings like you will consume it.
thats what set george apart he understood the creative&commercial sides equally he made his big money off the merch sales over time, he admitted the movies were made to drive toy/merch sales
That's part of why the prequel trilogy was made, it just so happened to coincide with the previous licensing deal expiring. And the main reason he got screwed on the previous deal was that he wasn't willing to provide the license under terms that other companies would accept due to the paranoia about the stuff getting out into the public before the movies did.
You are absolutely right, the artist cares for his or her story, but a corporation, like Hollywood (Disney or any other studio) cares only for profit. It is why many times publishers and art critics will frown on an artist doing something different. They only want to have them do what has been successful before, taking no chances on a failure. It's why a lot of stuff today we see as a success, was at the time of its origin deemed a failure.
George was always good at predicting and often right. It's not just film that Corps involvement in waters down creativity and quality it's in so many other things and places as well. Short term profits are the god for them.
Considering there's something I love about every Star Wars movie, I've never ranked them. They're like children. You can love them all differently and still love them with all your heart. Sure, every movie in every fantasy has problems and the bigger Star Wars gets, the more problems it will have because they'll always create a shock factor with the trilogies. The fandom will always be split. We'll always have jealous people. Everyone sees Star Wars differently. The jealous ones think they could've written the shows better. _Dey think'a dey brains'a so big._ They'll never get the gravitos and impetus. We miss many things in the movies because they're obscure and ambiguous. That's why we rewatch them several times (for some, every year) and catch those exciting things when we recognize them from stories told afterward, between the movies. George wanted to have one vision and storyline. He changed the story as he filmed them. There's always a plan, but plans change. Destroying the last Sith Lord after being redeemed isn't bringing balance to the galaxy. Even if Palpatine were "unable" to return, there are so many Sith artifacts and teaching relics, they could return at any given time. Quite a few Sith imbued their essence into antiquities, such as masks, rings, weapons, monuments, etc. Every holocron, every aspect would need to be destroyed. "If you define yourself by the power to take life, the desire to dominate, to possess...then you have nothing." ~Obi Wan Anakin's first step was ending the way things were done in the Mortis realm. This isn't something he would do in one fell swoop. *Stories never end. They're just abandoned.* George is retired at 80 years old. He's still on Dave's speed dial. You can see how he still has hard feelings about them not using the deep lore of the Whills and Midichlorians in the sequels, but Dave is working with him to give audiences a softer introduction to the concepts (see the *George Lucas talks STAR WARS, Coppola, gender/race + more from Cannes 2024* video by That Shelf). If you remember, the idea of Midichlorians was rejected by some very loud fans in the prequels (see *The People vs. George Lucas* for context). The sequels were adapted to bring in new fans and not freak everyone out. This whole argument about how George did things and how Disney are doing things started with Empire Strikes Back but the movies have always been based on generational issues for 12-year-olds to help figure out what to do. You can see how the Ewoks teach children to do what they can to help, even if they don't have the technology and tools of adults. The Gungans have a grand army and help with distracting the Separatists so the main characters can take the Naboo capital back. The children with the fathiers on Canto Bite help the good guys get away. The children should've been freed with the fathiers, but it's a fantasy. I never claimed they're perfect from a realistic point of view. They're perfect for what they promise. They're stories that teach. The prequels and the sequels have a message about each generation getting a legend..That's what they are, following the originals that gave us many lessons and several heroes. George talked with Paul Duncan in several interviews and discussed details of his story treatments in the 90s and around 2012 (Interview with Paul Duncan- Author of The Star Wars Archive) when he told Duncan, comparing it to what happened after the Iraq War, rebuilding the Republic. Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in comic books as his apprentice. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over. The movies are about how Leia - I mean, who else will be the leader? - is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It’ll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi. By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.” When George rewrote those, he held on to many of those ideas that only work if the movies were created before 2012 while the cast was younger - in their 30s & 40s. When TFA began filming, Mark Hamill was 62. *James Cameron interview with George Lucas:* The next three Star Wars films] were going to get into a microbiotic world. But there’s this _world of creatures_ that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who control the universe. They feed off the Force. Back in the day, I used to say ultimately what this means is we’re just cars, vehicles, for the Whills to travel around in…. We’re vessels for them. And the conduit is the Midichlorians. The Midichlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force. Lucas's ideas changed so often that it's hard to pinpoint what, if any, cohesive plan he had, but the Wookiee/Droid movies were part of the 12 movies in one specific 1980 interview. First and foremost, he maintains that Anakin is "The Chosen One" even though he refers to Luke and Leia becoming "The Chosen One." By extension, I've considered the possibility that they and Ahsoka, being his padawan, essentially are "The Ones" of the future. Sam Witwer mentioned the sequels are congruent with the OT and canon books through to the ST era in a panel he spoke at SDCC (2023). Star Wars Theory found the 90s version online and recited it as if it was George's 2012 version he sold to Disney as part of the bargain. _They altered the deal further..._ starting with George in the room. When Lucas and Kasdan rewrote the trilogy, Kira, who becomes Rey in the final version, is compared to "Willard going up the river seeking General Kurtz" for training. George wrote Luke's story. Leia was supposed to "save" him, but Carrie Fisher died. That story became saving her son. What it all comes down to is we form expectations from old ideas, things we hear that might just be speculation, and our own thoughts of what might be If we don't allow these to become an expectation... If we separate the story from what we thought it should be, it's so much better than trying to mix in all that and being upset we didn't get it. Embrace the change or wait until they adapt something you like. The Mandalorian is an adaptation of what Jon wanted to do for Boba Fett. That turned out pretty good.
Oh yeah said this many a time about what Lucas said would happen is Hollywood got full control over Star Wars. I did see that clip you posted, but I had read about an interview he did in a magazine I believe it was Star Wars Insider, I had a subscription with them for a while. It was right after Attack of the Clones came out and it was revealed that he had made the movie with his own money. He explained that the Hollywood executives kept pressuring him to make the Prequels more like the Originals, even saying he needed to include another giant super weapon. He told them no, and I remember this response he told them when asked why he doesn't make 1-3 like 4-6. "I already told that story, now I'm telling a new one. "
@@mattrismatt that IP did it right when it came to using established characters and new characters. KK just wanted to destroy the old and rush the younger characters.
@@dcarre That's not what I asked. Do you think the old characters deserved to live happily ever after? Why should _another_ Republic (led by Leia) and Jedi Order (led by Luke) be expected to have flourished?
George has massive respect he did his own thing unapologetically his story, which some may compare with some Disney projects the major difference is George had a vision a goal while Disney just wants money and content they are not the same
Why are all you fake fans acting like George wasn't getting all kinds of hate from fans during episode 1-3??? Lol Fan hatred was the main reason George decided to actually sell the franchise in the end.
You have to wonder if Walt Disney was still around how he would have handled the franchise. Walt had a fantastic way of finding and creating stories, even taking fairy tales and creating an amazing story for his audience.
@@oldmanjesus9855 it may have had a hand in it but not the main reason, main reason was wanting time to spend with family cuz he's not getting any younger
@@vestarakhai5303 the "I need to spend more time with my family" excuse was his polite way of telling the fans to F-off. George Lucas spent decades refusing to sell his franchise and then when fans became unbearable he decided to go "spend time with his family", because he realized that there's no pleasing nerds once they get too attached to anything to the point of feeling entitled to it. The state of star wars as it is now, it's the "fans" fault. Had it not been for the massive tantrum fans threw over jar jar binks and Anakin not being what they envisioned, George would've never sold the franchise and it wouldnt have mutated the way it did. Watching the same fans acting like they were on his side all along is borderline pathetic, specially when one can still find countless videos and written pieces of the same fans straight up praying for Lucas to sell his creation, because he "didn't have it anymore"...
"Political commentary and identity empowerment are means of telling a story. People have a tendency to confuse them as an ends to themselves. Political commentary and identity empower without a story is a pretty boring thing." - a wise person
I've enjoyed all the spin offs etc. I would have liked Rey and Kylo be the only "happily ever after" couple...even if Ben had hologram himself. Instead of the Shakesperean Romeo and Juliet ending.
The difference between a corporation and an artist; artists can take constructive criticisms and improve on their work as corporations panic when people don’t enjoy their product, so much so that they now resort to attacking people that don’t, it’s an interesting strategy one that I think will continue to fail them.
Well if you give your Baby away ist gone forever ! Oh yeah back in the days Disney also has stood for quality. All the old Disney Movies and of course the Cartoons. But that changed and now everything is the same SHIT !
They are saying exactly that. The problem is the old fans ignore these words, watch garbage and cry about it. And some loser gootubers capitalized on this with anti woke garbage content.
The very first Star Wars movie will always remain the greatest in the franchise. Don’t get me wrong, I adore the Empire Strikes Back but Star Wars was at its best when George was a guerrilla filmmaker, with a group of techno hippies, having to work themselves out of major problems and setbacks.
Goerge Lucas is 100% right. The corporations are more interested in raking in money than they are in telling good stories. While I believe TFA rehashing ANH worked as an introduction, Disney basically had carte blanche to go in a different direction after rebranding the EU to Legends and yet they chose to continue rehashing the original trilogy
To take example of popular brand releases from this year... Fan service can be very good (Deadpool & Wolverine), and originality can be very good (Dune 2)... but what makes a movie good is neither, it's a good story. TFA was 100% fan service, TLJ was bold and original... but the problem is that after watching TROS, it's painfully obvious that they never had any idea of what story they wanted to tell... they were only trend chasing with each films, trying to stitch a story together to patch over a reactive corporate checklist.
_The Last Jedi_ isn't original; it's a rehash of _The Empire Strikes Back_ and _Return of the Jedi._ Ahch-To is like Dagobah as a planet with a strong connection to the Force, Canto Bight is a Cloud City rip-off, Rey trying to turn Kylo to the light is a rehash of Luke trying to bring Vader to the light, Kylo Ren killing Snoke rehashes Vader killing Palpatine, the Resistance on the run from the First Order rehashes the Rebellion on the run from the Empire, the battle on Crait rehashes the battle on Hoth, and the big reveal of Rey being a nobody is a ripoff of Vader's iconic line to Luke, "No, I am your father." In addition to that, Luke Skywalker takes Yoda's place as the Jedi Master who isolates himself on a planet strong with the Force, Rey is a female rehash of Luke from the original trilogy except she barely has any character development, Snoke is a rehash of Palpatine, Kylo Ren is a rehash of Darth Vader, Hux is a rehash of Tarkin, and DJ is just Lando without a character arc.
@agahnim0196 He didn't miss the point. He disagreed and backed his point with examples. I had two conditions for the Last Jedi, and one was I'm done if they kill Luke because it's too predictable. TLJ wasn't bold. It was petty. It ignored the world building, character development, and set up from the previous film for lazy and unsatisfying "twists". It was made worse by there being no trilogy plan, but even by itself, it's a poorly constructed film.
@@TheChristianPsychopath The point, that you seem to have missed as well, is that neither fan service or originality relates to quality, only good writing and direction do. Change Last Jedi for Acolyte in my original post, the point remains the same.
@@agahnim0196 Thank you for clarifying, but I think the counter point that TLJ wasn't very original is still valid. It certainly wasn't as safe as TFA, but TFA did have a few fresh elements like the child soldier aspect, Finn, and the heroes/good guys being the ones in power that could have genuinely moved the story forward. Johnson just failed to explore those aspects that did make TFA different. The First Order went from being "a small remnant" to all over the galaxy in a matter of days after they had just taken a massive loss. The real world political commentary element of child soldiers was abandoned completely, and Finn got regulated to comedy relief. Johnson even failed to deal with why Kylo killed Han... Or how that alien lady got Luke's saber. Or he gave unsatisfying answer to questions like who is Rey? Nobody. Absolutely every new thread introduced in TFA got dropped, which makes it seem even less creative than it was. I do agree with you that it's not as simple as safe/not safe. Good franchise or formula fiction does hit some of the same beats. There's a balance between adding a new chapter to a story and still making it feel like a continuous story, set in the same world. The prequels had flaws, but they made the galaxy seem bigger by introducing genuinely fresh locations. Coruscant, Naboo, etc. One trilogy focused on the powerless living on the fringe, and the other the powerful making decisions.
I'm thankful for George bringing his creative vision to making the prequel trilogy. I'm also thankful for the fan-editors who I believe really improved upon what George was trying to do.
These contemporary writers do not understand that the opportunity for creativity exists within the creators vision. A major reason that they fail is because they have the attitude of 'well, it's mine now and i can do whatever i want.'
I’m just tired of all the fighting around Star Wars. What should be a harmless hobby has become a ground for a never ending cycle of blood disputes. Edit: even now, the petty squabbles continue as they did when he was around, so too will they continue when he leaves this world.
When has Lucasfilm been antagonistic towards the fans? I mean, you may hear people on the internet say stuff like "oh, Kathleen says that ep9 failed because of the men, she blames men" but then if you look her words up she never says anything in that sort of blaming light, and instead states that the fandom is mostly male dominant Not even Amandla Stenberg has said anything like "all fans who dislike my series are racist", she simply called out those who HAVE been racist, and then everyone felt called out for some gosh darn reason. The problem is, the fandom has been divided since ep8 and it hasnt healed, so each new thing sparks conflict within the fandom, and then politics get in the way because people love politics in everything @@BaithNa
Btw is not like the company is all good and never does anything wrong. They SHOULD focus on the quality of their projects, but the people who start hostile debates and send death threats to others and call people who dislike the series "racist" just because they dont like it, all those people are part of the problem @@BaithNa
I'm sick of "purists" savagely slandering anything new - just enjoy new material for pure enjoyment instead of nitpicking it like an editor for a book. Allow others to enjoy it, allow success to occur; just have fun as though you've never watched a Star Wars movie before. It's really easy to do. You know you want. This the way.
@@S_Gibly what do you mean? I feel bad he got so tired that he couldn't even complete two words. I mean after all there are a total of one syllable for each word. Stupid teachers in school and their damn expectations thinking people should use proper spelling. So dumb. Turn most if not all sentences into partial or full string of letters I say. Forget words, who needs them.
The fans should be who control canon, we are the only ones who truly understand Star Wars. If enough fans don’t consider something Disney makes as canon and don’t watch it, they should have no choice but to retcon/remove it. Money is the language of Disney. Like we saw in the Acolyte, they cancelled a show immediately after they saw no return on investment. The fans need to come together to create a separate timeline/canon that includes or removes pieces of media Canon/Legends depending on the popular vote of the fans.
The problem with corporate creativity is that it's designed by committee. It results in lowest-common-denominator storytelling. Having the fans vote on everything would still be designed by committee, and would still result in lowest-common-denominator storytelling. The key to success would be to have ONE fan, who truly loves Star Wars, who is a really good storyteller, and who has complete control over the IP. This is what George Lucas had going for him. He was one person who could make unpopular decisions, without having to answer to anyone. Were his decisions always the right ones? No. But it was his call, and creatively that's what is necessary. Star Wars will never be the same again, because the days of one person, who loves the IP, having full control will never return.
He also stormed out when they suggested toning the deep dive into the microbiotic world of Whills and Midichlorians down, or changing it so people wouldn't get upset like they did with the prequels... so they didn't use it and used parts of his story that would bring in new fans. The target audience is the new generation. *Star Wars* has always been written for pre and early teens until Andor. If you expected it to be something else, it's fine, but it'll never be what you expect. George still would've split the fandom with his idea. He gets some things right and he gets other things way out in left field. He was probably smart getting mad, otherwise he'd still be advising and not enjoying his retirement, or doing more meaningful things. LFL will be fine without him. They have everything he wrote. They'll figure it out. The main thing to remember is to have fun. If it's not fun, wait for the next thing.
The thing is, I appreciate George’s words, but also understand that there’s a little bit of it that doesn’t come off as sound as it probably should. He’s right in the sense that we see that too many corporations have a profit motive in mind these days with regards to not letting the creatives do their job. We see that this happens too often now where the executives want to make the creative decisions and the business decisions as opposed to letting the creative make the creative decisions and the business people make the business decisions. Companies are too worried that something will not make a profit so with Star Wars they just resort to doing some of the same things over and over again. They keep going back to the same time periods. They keep using the same characters and so on. However, I feel like given he is still at Disney shareholder and he still appreciates Disney for doing some good things on some of the stuff they’ve made he still is bought in that idea that “hey a company owns it now so what can I do”. Again, we also have to factor in that he sold that company based on the idea that he was also just completely bullied for making the films he made. The harness from fans that he received back in the day was ridiculous and still is now.
Here‘s the thing: besides the business side, he should never have introduced the midichlorians. That, to me, is the biggest break between the magic of the original trilogy and the prequels and sequels. It all started with this big secret from the near past. I mean: it was merely 18 years between the fall of the Jedi and A New Hope. And yet, the galaxy had all but forgotten that time. Some people had an affinity to access a force that binds everything together. Some more, some less. But with training, you could advance. And then we jump back to Anakin‘s childhood and suddenly, it‘s more like an STD. A technicality. The universe is a dirty place for most. Pick your poison, we have high levels of radioactivity, PFAS or midichlorians. Which one do you want? I MEAN: what would keep a mad man from extracting the little suckers and power-boosting themselves? After all, it’s not about the person, but about their force-biome. Surely, a space-faring society has developed dialysis, let‘s drain the good stuff… And now that the magic is lost, why not have another magical power in the same universe? Let‘s not call it String Theory. Let‘s call it Thread. George should have explored the wonder more. The search for balance vs the fast and furious attraction of the dark side. What was life with the Force like outside of the order? Which secrets of the universe did people uncover outside of technology? Did people cross over back and forth if they weren‘t forced into conflict? Perhaps there were positive aspects to the dark side… but alas, that was only explored in the extended universe… Why was Darth Vader so iconic? Because in the end, he sacrificed his life in the pursuit of bringing back balance. He tried it all, saw it all, did it all and in the end, the only solution was to remove the haste and selfishness from the picture. And that‘s when we didn‘t even know about Padme. We only knew that he had saved Luke and the rebellion. His struggle was the story, not some space mission with highly advanced technology. With the prequels, George started mansplaining all that was mysterious before. And that has only gotten more out of hand in my view.
The magic was never lost with the introduction to the midichlorians, which had always been there from the start. It was just a way to determine one's connection to the force. They mystery was always still there.
Na everyone too midchlorians too far. It was just supposed to be a way to measure the force in people. Fans forced it they Jedi should have a way to messue the force in people. It can still be a mystery on why and how.
Studios lacking creativity is something I think most can agree on. Most superhero movies, especially Sony’s spiderman adjacent ones are perfect examples of having things go the way they do solely because the committee deemed it so. Honestly, the franchise frenzy that’s been going on in the industry for so long is a great example on its own.
It makes perfect sense. Every single cult classic in my lifetime was not a big budget movie or critically acclaimed. The studios don’t have the patience for a well written throughout story.
I just wish Lucas had put in the contract with Disney that any sequels must use his ideas. Disney would have accepted that because they wanted the franchise so badly. This can be an example for other creators when it comes time to sell their franchises.
He saw the future coming because he understood the art of movies and his success put him in that corporate world. He could see all sides. Nothing but respect for this man.
I tend to think that some of the problem with the new stuff is that THEY are thinking about their artistry, too. That’s how we end up with these creative types who think the show is so great and it’s going to be so awesome and then they don’t get why fans don’t like it. They’re focusing on their art. The difference is that Lucas’ art became successful in a business / financial way, too. That’s how we get stories about how people were surprised when Episode IV did so well. They knew it was Lucas’ art, but they didn’t know it would connect with the audience so well. The new crew making shows is very sure of and focused on their art; but their art isn’t connecting with the audience.
For the actors making Star Wars no one knew it would be this huge....to them it was a B-movie Flash Gordon film....even when it was made Georges Director mates said it was terrible then a few cuts in edit sound effects and finally music by John Williams and well....
Merchandising post disney has had its positives but the negatives are quite similar to a large extent to the issues with how Star Wars overall is run for the past 10+ years.
The first 6 films are technically independent films made by and financed by GL. That’s why are so much more successful that anything Disney will ever make as far as SW.
@@BobbyCoolBreeze The first film was funded by 20th Century Fox. His experience formed his view of corporate studios. Merch freed him up a bit more for ESB and ROTJ. Only the prequels were entirely independent.
@@teejay1035 i believe for distribution rights only but they had no say in production or creative decisions. I could be mistaken though. I’m pretty sure they didn’t meddle with the story.
Let's not forget that a lot of the original ideas he had for star wars back in the 70s was changed by the studio executives for the better, and the original trilogy is the most beloved. Also, this is a man that said there would be too much sword fighting...while putting too much sword fighting in the prequels
What pisses me off the most is not that George forsaw this years ago; it's the fact that he 100% supported the same executives when there was a chance to change the Board at Disney
I'm with you about the George Lucas trilogies that each character was thought out and incorporated into the storyline and most merchandise. But Disney on their previous track record seemed to be capable of connecting with Star Wars. Now I'm like picking and choosing what I want to believe would be the true story of Star Wars. I really did love the ObiWan series and despite the reception the Boba Fett series. Both times were due to the actors.
Art needs to be perceived. It's a relationship between its creator and the audience. Passion vs Relevance. The artist brings his passion and the audience ultimately attributes relevance to the piece.
He's not the only one who predicted it, I had a vision of what would happen too. I had just had taco bell, and after 30 minutes on the toilet, I got up an looked in the bowl-
Sadly, Disney’s best days were well behind them when they bought the rights to Star Wars. They were already knee deep in remakes, nostalgia baiting, and the dreaded “modernization” of classics for no reason other than to maximize profits off their IP. George was only partly right about Disney’s ability to grow the franchise. Sure, they grew it, but they also erased its soul,
The best way to prove Lucas' statement is to look at another IP. Superhero movies before the OG MCU were simply based on the origin story and the powers of the protagonist, what Kevin did was make the movies about the character and their development, and placing that development within a compelling story arc that shows not tells the development. The Clone Wars Animated Series showed Darth Vader's development in Anakin, and how his fall was so tragic. Him being the Force's Messiah so to speak, only to come down and join the Roman Empire. Story and character development is everything, and when the fans see that faltering or at worst, get provoked by creators who state they are deliberately "altering the deal", you're going to get a reaction.
George Lucas is a genius in my opinion. It’s really unfortunate what has happened to his work and property regarding Star Wars. Not only is there a lack of creativity and storytelling in movies, but it’s also happening to video games. I wouldn’t say that his comments were a prediction, but more about knowledge pertaining to game theory in relation to business and economics.
It makes me wonder if George knew/believed that when he retired, Lucasfilm was going to derail from his vision and go the way that it did. His understanding of the industry coupled with his knowledge of those around him for a story teller like George would have painted that picture nicely imo. Selling the company at that point allowed him to separate himself from the inevitable downfall he would have foreseen. Cashing out while the value was still there.
He should've started with Anakin as a teenage padawan. The time wasted on seeing his childhood was really apparent in the rushed ending of ROTS. We never saw Luke as a little boy and we still got his full story.
It's as upsetting as it is baffling that George was and still has never been tapped to be the head creative of LF. Kennedy's and some of Filoni's duties should've been George's: greenlighting or rejecting projects, hiring and firing other creatives (writers, directors, producers, etc.), providing story outlines, creative guidance, etc. When he exited after his sequels were rejected, Kennedy in her infinite wisdom took on most of that despite her not knowing or even caring about SW. A person who claimed there was no source material for Star Wars and said she doesn't owe the OT fans anything, as she did, has no business being in charge of it.
It should be obvious. Leave the art to the artists and leave the business to admin. If everyone gets to pretend they can do any job, then half a dozen writers and actors should have a seat in the boardroom. Or let the accountant do the cameras or a while. And put CGI artists in HR. The management of film companies has too many frustrated wannabe creatives and DEI wankers sticking their uncreative noses into creative business, sucking the creativity out of their "products". If you are going to sanitise movies and TV, at least make them suitable for the kids.
I want to understand something. If he feels this way, why did he sell it to a big studio? I need to understand the dynamics of his ownership of the property and why it got sold.
In video gaming industry, it is the likes of EA and Ubisoft making Star Wars content. And they do usually make technically and visually good looking games. However, they are driven by that corporate mentality that says "be careful and don't stray too far from what has already been done". They are afraid if they stray they will turn off the customer and thus they money they make. Recently, I have noticed that a lot of smaller independent game developers are doing extremely well in breaking from that mold. They are generally bringing some great content that pushes the envelope while still being good to look at and entertaining. Not all mind you but many. The film industry could benefit from doing much the same thing. Let the independent developers have their try at making Star Wars content. Let them push the envelope. We have seen this to a degree in animation but not so much on the big screen.
6:55 This ought have been the spirit of Disney about the "viewership" of "The Acolyte" first season when dealing with stupid fandom - "you didn't like, you don't have to see it anymore!" -, and not keep the ones who liked it from watch the rest of the story.
There used to be 3 things that made a great movie. 1. Great script, 2. Believable acting and Direction, 3. Production. Sadly today you are lucky if even one shows up.
Hi Meg, awesome news update , yes I agree that George was correct, until the various shows came out the movies after 3 was made, the movies are rinse and repeat in the last 3 films, I enjoyed them all but we needed change for StarWars and on his sale of Star Wars it we doen Hill, and we need a new movie with some new characters like Mando and Grogu but maybe a bad batch/Clone movie, and Ahsoka movie would help the fandom, thank you SWM
Even if they actually cared, Disney would still lack creativity. My own story, that I put a ton of effort into, has rules: different time, different place, different conflict, different generation of tech, and don’t touch Luke. I only wish that official media would follow the same rules.
I think the reason why George never made his own sequel trilogy is he just didn’t have a good feeling about it. Apart from the fact that he didn’t want to invest 10 years of his remaining life into making more Star Wars movies. Where did you go after return of the Jedi?
The executives were right though. OG fans of that time hated the prequel Trilogy. Although I still did watch it in theaters when I was younger and enjoyed it somehow. Not as much as the originals, but it got my interest. But no one could have predicted that the younger generation of Star Wars fans would love it and will be inspired by it. I showed it to my 12 year old son though, and he was appalled by it. He's more of the Disney Star Wars trilogy generation. Maybe when Gen Alpha grows up they'd be making content praising how Disney Star Wars was the best. You never know.
I agree with wat lily’s says but the biggest mistake he ever made was selling Star Wars to Disney he should of went independent and kept doing Star Wars projects
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Do you agree with George Lucas on this? ❤ May the force be with you
George was always right... from a certain point of view. 😉
I agree with George Lucas 💯 to infinity and beyond!👍
I agree with George ❤
Yeah, I think he pretty much nailed it in that presentation. Corporate interference always ruins everything.
Well, George DID have "sword fights in every one of them", lol. But the more I think on it, the less I understand WHY he "had" to sell to Disney in the first place: If he didn't want to keep making them, then he...just could've stopped, and let SW be what it was! If he DID want there to be more SW, then he still could have remained the owner, just stepped back and allowed others *working for him* to tell newer stories, while still maintaining his original guidelines...Right or wrong, we're still in this current state of SW because of this odd choice.
For me, his most accurate comment was when he was sat next to Kathleen Kennedy and said something to the effect of "The Dark Side is about when people thinking they are doing something good but actually they are evil" as Kennedy shifted nervously in her seat.
Ok, but when did Palpatine think he was doing good? He's evil as it gets.
The most accurate comment was when he called Disney "white slavers"
I mean, it's just a rehash of the adage "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
The is the Sith Lord
Yeh I remember that lol, man George is a very Spiritual person when you hear him speak.
George's feelings on corporate influence on filmmaking has been entirely consistent since the 1970s. And he's been proven right over and over again.
Yes, although there does need to be some sort of balance to the whole process. That prequel trilogy was terrible because there wasn't sufficient pushback on the stuff he was doing. He was right to start with a 10 year old, but there were a lot of times where he was relying on special effects to cover up a lack of narrative merit in what he was doing. And even in the original trilogy, he would have made a mess of that had he not had great editing being done for him.
One of the big problems right now at Disney is an improper balance between those diehard fans and the regular fans. I saw a video on the original Prisoner series where there was a clip from McGoohan being rather up front about being very happy that the final episode angered so many people. There's a time to do fanservice and there's a time to piss off the fans that are taking things way too seriously.
yea then if he is right since 1970 why did he sold it to corp.? In my eyes he is just as greed and as weak and now he cry to get attention. Fuck him, he shouldnt have sold it if he is so aware.
@@SmallSpoonBrigadeThe prequels were not terrible. They were not perfect but they had their moments, and they greatly expanded the Star Wars lore and canon in interesting ways.
Yet he sold out anyway.
It’s almost like all those executives make movies more expensive and less entertaining at the same time.
It was part of his business plan. He sells Star Wars for 4.1 billion, then eventually buys it back for $50.00 and a ham sandwich, then he builds it up again and sells it for another 4.1 billion. Rinse and repeat.
The only flaw of the plan is that he will probably die before star wars reaches 50k
@@kecksbelit3300Star Wars in anybody else's hands is a goldmine but it's trash in Disney. Disney always lacks that originality and they suppress creativity by their own imposed "values" They managed to prosper in the 50 is because people still believed in bs
@@stellviahohenheim to be honest i think there are a lot of people that can even handle it better than george himself. People praise george but beeing honest after the original films he went too hard on it's made for children. While episode 3 was amazing episode 1 and 2 had it's flaws. Stuff like hire to the empire and the old republic storys to me even surpass the original films when i look at it without nostalgic glasses. The sith storys are just so well done
@@kecksbelit3300wasn’t Spielberg in consideration to direct return of the Jedi at one point. That would have been Interesting.
That depends heavily on if people are even interested in SW after what Disney has done to it...
I just turned 50 and I still have my original Star Wars toys, from when I was a child. My nephews played with them whilst growing up.
Don't ever sell them, no matter how bad things get in the world, ALWAYS keep them, especially if you have any still brand new in the packaging. On Ebay I'm noticing so many people selling classic and POTF Starwars figures in the boxes and cheap too, and they don't realize all this stuff will go up drastically in price, especially after George is no longer with us. It's only because right now the *Star Wars* IP is in a seriously bad place, times will change yet again.
It's not that Lucas was a visionary while Disney has zero vision for the brand, Lucas was also a world class sheperd and ambassador for Star Wars. He protected the brand and allowed it to grow without him. All Disney has done is sow division while damaging and shrinking the brand.
More like Disney put star wars in a dumpster and lit it on fire.
Sort of, he did release Episodes I and II, and he mysteriously regained interest in the franchise when the toy license expired.
"allowed it to grow without him"
Stop pretending that the EU was not the exact same soulless garbage as Disney Wars is. Lucas had nothing to do with it, and it showed, because it was cynical and nihillistic to the extreme.
@@Verebazs you haven’t really looked at the EU and it shows
@@galenmarek4582 I've read around 40 novels, and a couple dozen comics. Ranging from the worshipped Thrawn-trilogy, to the Republic and Legacy comics, from the Darth Bane trilogy to the Yuzzan Vong garbage and Legacy of the Force. It all sucked.
When seeing the prequels in the theatre, the first time I heard Vader's March way in the background of the soundtrack, building louder and louder scene by scene every time Anakin get's angrier, more confused, more lost; it gave me chills. The soundtrack was half the telling of the story of his transformation into Vader.
The soundtrack of the sequels doesn't hit near as hard as the prequels and I think its because the pacing isn't that of a space opera.
Yeah and the toxic fandom hated the prequels at the time to the point they sent death threats to a bloody child. I think what Disney has done with Star Wars is hubris to those fans and pretty hilarious now that I think about it.
Key words " THE STORY "
Exactly!
Disney Star Wars: "tHe mEsSaGe"
Yes George is right about big corporations in Hollywood and this needs to be changed if we are going to get great stories for future star wars movies and shows.
If he knew why he sold it to disney? He is just weak beta male and now he cry, but he has no right cause he saw it and he sold it anyway. Fuck him.
No, the first thing that has to be annihilated is the woke ideology that has infiltrated and contaminated almost every aspect of western media, politics and entertainment.
Only after that will you have great stories again. But that's going to take years and years.
He gets some things right and he gets other things way out in left field. He was probably smart getting mad, otherwise he'd still be advising and not enjoying his retirement, or doing more meaningful things. He needed to let go of this. LFL will be fine without him. They have everything he wrote. They'll figure it out. The main thing to remember is to have fun. If it's not fun, wait for the next thing.
@@DaleESkywalker so just wait until they learn to make propaganda fun and then it will be fine to consume propaganda. Remember guys doesnt matter the propaganda if its fun. I hope nazis wont learn how to make their propaganda fun cause weaklings like you will consume it.
@@DaleESkywalkerhe sold to the most soulless of movie corporations.
thats what set george apart he understood the creative&commercial sides equally he made his big money off the merch sales over time, he admitted the movies were made to drive toy/merch sales
That's part of why the prequel trilogy was made, it just so happened to coincide with the previous licensing deal expiring. And the main reason he got screwed on the previous deal was that he wasn't willing to provide the license under terms that other companies would accept due to the paranoia about the stuff getting out into the public before the movies did.
You are absolutely right, the artist cares for his or her story, but a corporation, like Hollywood (Disney or any other studio) cares only for profit. It is why many times publishers and art critics will frown on an artist doing something different. They only want to have them do what has been successful before, taking no chances on a failure. It's why a lot of stuff today we see as a success, was at the time of its origin deemed a failure.
George was always good at predicting and often right. It's not just film that Corps involvement in waters down creativity and quality it's in so many other things and places as well. Short term profits are the god for them.
Here's the start of my book. Do you think it'll get published? What would you polish up before it does?
Considering there's something I love about every Star Wars movie, I've never ranked them.
They're like children. You can love them all differently and still love them with all your heart.
Sure, every movie in every fantasy has problems and the bigger Star Wars gets, the more problems it will have because they'll always create a shock factor with the trilogies. The fandom will always be split. We'll always have jealous people.
Everyone sees Star Wars differently. The jealous ones think they could've written the shows better. _Dey think'a dey brains'a so big._ They'll never get the gravitos and impetus.
We miss many things in the movies because they're obscure and ambiguous. That's why we rewatch them several times (for some, every year) and catch those exciting things when we recognize them from stories told afterward, between the movies.
George wanted to have one vision and storyline. He changed the story as he filmed them. There's always a plan, but plans change. Destroying the last Sith Lord after being redeemed isn't bringing balance to the galaxy. Even if Palpatine were "unable" to return, there are so many Sith artifacts and teaching relics, they could return at any given time. Quite a few Sith imbued their essence into antiquities, such as masks, rings, weapons, monuments, etc. Every holocron, every aspect would need to be destroyed.
"If you define yourself by the power to take life, the desire to dominate, to possess...then you have nothing." ~Obi Wan
Anakin's first step was ending the way things were done in the Mortis realm. This isn't something he would do in one fell swoop.
*Stories never end. They're just abandoned.*
George is retired at 80 years old. He's still on Dave's speed dial. You can see how he still has hard feelings about them not using the deep lore of the Whills and Midichlorians in the sequels, but Dave is working with him to give audiences a softer introduction to the concepts (see the *George Lucas talks STAR WARS, Coppola, gender/race + more from Cannes 2024* video by That Shelf).
If you remember, the idea of Midichlorians was rejected by some very loud fans in the prequels (see *The People vs. George Lucas* for context). The sequels were adapted to bring in new fans and not freak everyone out. This whole argument about how George did things and how Disney are doing things started with Empire Strikes Back but the movies have always been based on generational issues for 12-year-olds to help figure out what to do. You can see how the Ewoks teach children to do what they can to help, even if they don't have the technology and tools of adults. The Gungans have a grand army and help with distracting the Separatists so the main characters can take the Naboo capital back. The children with the fathiers on Canto Bite help the good guys get away.
The children should've been freed with the fathiers, but it's a fantasy. I never claimed they're perfect from a realistic point of view. They're perfect for what they promise. They're stories that teach. The prequels and the sequels have a message about each generation getting a legend..That's what they are, following the originals that gave us many lessons and several heroes.
George talked with Paul Duncan in several interviews and discussed details of his story treatments in the 90s and around 2012 (Interview with Paul Duncan- Author of The Star Wars Archive) when he told Duncan, comparing it to what happened after the Iraq War, rebuilding the Republic. Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in comic books as his apprentice. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over.
The movies are about how Leia - I mean, who else will be the leader? - is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It’ll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.
By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.”
When George rewrote those, he held on to many of those ideas that only work if the movies were created before 2012 while the cast was younger - in their 30s & 40s. When TFA began filming, Mark Hamill was 62.
*James Cameron interview with George Lucas:*
The next three Star Wars films] were going to get into a microbiotic world. But there’s this _world of creatures_ that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who control the universe. They feed off the Force.
Back in the day, I used to say ultimately what this means is we’re just cars, vehicles, for the Whills to travel around in…. We’re vessels for them. And the conduit is the Midichlorians. The Midichlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.
Lucas's ideas changed so often that it's hard to pinpoint what, if any, cohesive plan he had, but the Wookiee/Droid movies were part of the 12 movies in one specific 1980 interview. First and foremost, he maintains that Anakin is "The Chosen One" even though he refers to Luke and Leia becoming "The Chosen One." By extension, I've considered the possibility that they and Ahsoka, being his padawan, essentially are "The Ones" of the future. Sam Witwer mentioned the sequels are congruent with the OT and canon books through to the ST era in a panel he spoke at SDCC (2023).
Star Wars Theory found the 90s version online and recited it as if it was George's 2012 version he sold to Disney as part of the bargain. _They altered the deal further..._ starting with George in the room.
When Lucas and Kasdan rewrote the trilogy, Kira, who becomes Rey in the final version, is compared to "Willard going up the river seeking General Kurtz" for training. George wrote Luke's story. Leia was supposed to "save" him, but Carrie Fisher died. That story became saving her son.
What it all comes down to is we form expectations from old ideas, things we hear that might just be speculation, and our own thoughts of what might be If we don't allow these to become an expectation... If we separate the story from what we thought it should be, it's so much better than trying to mix in all that and being upset we didn't get it. Embrace the change or wait until they adapt something you like. The Mandalorian is an adaptation of what Jon wanted to do for Boba Fett. That turned out pretty good.
Oh yeah said this many a time about what Lucas said would happen is Hollywood got full control over Star Wars. I did see that clip you posted, but I had read about an interview he did in a magazine I believe it was Star Wars Insider, I had a subscription with them for a while. It was right after Attack of the Clones came out and it was revealed that he had made the movie with his own money. He explained that the Hollywood executives kept pressuring him to make the Prequels more like the Originals, even saying he needed to include another giant super weapon. He told them no, and I remember this response he told them when asked why he doesn't make 1-3 like 4-6. "I already told that story, now I'm telling a new one. "
If Lucasfilm followed Cobra Kai’s lead, we would not be having this conversation right now.
Could you please clarify your point?
@@mattrismatt that IP did it right when it came to using established characters and new characters. KK just wanted to destroy the old and rush the younger characters.
@@dcarre Do you think the old characters deserved to live happily ever after? If so, why?
@@mattrismatt they deserved a story. Not means to an end and die off.
@@dcarre That's not what I asked. Do you think the old characters deserved to live happily ever after? Why should _another_ Republic (led by Leia) and Jedi Order (led by Luke) be expected to have flourished?
George has massive respect he did his own thing unapologetically his story, which some may compare with some Disney projects the major difference is George had a vision a goal while Disney just wants money and content they are not the same
George was about the money too but he's a storyteller at heart and used his passion to make an empire.
Why are all you fake fans acting like George wasn't getting all kinds of hate from fans during episode 1-3??? Lol Fan hatred was the main reason George decided to actually sell the franchise in the end.
You have to wonder if Walt Disney was still around how he would have handled the franchise. Walt had a fantastic way of finding and creating stories, even taking fairy tales and creating an amazing story for his audience.
@@oldmanjesus9855 it may have had a hand in it but not the main reason, main reason was wanting time to spend with family cuz he's not getting any younger
@@vestarakhai5303 the "I need to spend more time with my family" excuse was his polite way of telling the fans to F-off. George Lucas spent decades refusing to sell his franchise and then when fans became unbearable he decided to go "spend time with his family", because he realized that there's no pleasing nerds once they get too attached to anything to the point of feeling entitled to it. The state of star wars as it is now, it's the "fans" fault. Had it not been for the massive tantrum fans threw over jar jar binks and Anakin not being what they envisioned, George would've never sold the franchise and it wouldnt have mutated the way it did. Watching the same fans acting like they were on his side all along is borderline pathetic, specially when one can still find countless videos and written pieces of the same fans straight up praying for Lucas to sell his creation, because he "didn't have it anymore"...
by selling SW & lucasfilm to the largest corporation, Georges SW became the very thing he swore to destroy.
George is always way ahead of the curve.
Anyone who thinks George wouldn't survive today is sadly mistaken. He's just always way ahead of the game.
Thanks Meg! May The Force Be With You...Always. F**k The Empire
"Political commentary and identity empowerment are means of telling a story. People have a tendency to confuse them as an ends to themselves. Political commentary and identity empower without a story is a pretty boring thing." - a wise person
Big studios lack creativity, souls, intelligence, originality, etc etc etc…
1000% he’s spot on about the sequel trilogy i liked the sequel trilogy but he’s so right
I didnt like them and why they had to destroy the Luke Skywaker character like they did i dont understand.
@@aramisone7198 Because "Force is Female" ^^
They have butchered the creative opportunities with this great franchise... I hate what Disney has done to Star Wars
I've enjoyed all the spin offs etc.
I would have liked Rey and Kylo be the only "happily ever after" couple...even if Ben had hologram himself. Instead of the Shakesperean Romeo and Juliet ending.
They have done more damage then the Death Star.
The difference between a corporation and an artist; artists can take constructive criticisms and improve on their work as corporations panic when people don’t enjoy their product, so much so that they now resort to attacking people that don’t, it’s an interesting strategy one that I think will continue to fail them.
Well if you give your Baby away ist gone forever !
Oh yeah back in the days Disney also has stood for quality. All the old Disney Movies and of course the Cartoons.
But that changed and now everything is the same SHIT !
You just gave my favorite quote "From Star Wars to Jedi" about special FX. All I can say to you is..."I know!" 😊
Sadly, Disney is not allowed to say "this is our show, don't like it, don't see it" even they did paid all the money to do anything they want.
Oh they are saying that, and the Acolyte has proven that people aren't watching it.
They are saying exactly that. The problem is the old fans ignore these words, watch garbage and cry about it. And some loser gootubers capitalized on this with anti woke garbage content.
George did it all Perfect!
The very first Star Wars movie will always remain the greatest in the franchise. Don’t get me wrong, I adore the Empire Strikes Back but Star Wars was at its best when George was a guerrilla filmmaker, with a group of techno hippies, having to work themselves out of major problems and setbacks.
Sadly the importance is money not on the overall story especially to those execs.
Great video, Meg. 👍
Goerge Lucas is 100% right. The corporations are more interested in raking in money than they are in telling good stories. While I believe TFA rehashing ANH worked as an introduction, Disney basically had carte blanche to go in a different direction after rebranding the EU to Legends and yet they chose to continue rehashing the original trilogy
To take example of popular brand releases from this year... Fan service can be very good (Deadpool & Wolverine), and originality can be very good (Dune 2)... but what makes a movie good is neither, it's a good story. TFA was 100% fan service, TLJ was bold and original... but the problem is that after watching TROS, it's painfully obvious that they never had any idea of what story they wanted to tell... they were only trend chasing with each films, trying to stitch a story together to patch over a reactive corporate checklist.
_The Last Jedi_ isn't original; it's a rehash of _The Empire Strikes Back_ and _Return of the Jedi._
Ahch-To is like Dagobah as a planet with a strong connection to the Force, Canto Bight is a Cloud City rip-off, Rey trying to turn Kylo to the light is a rehash of Luke trying to bring Vader to the light, Kylo Ren killing Snoke rehashes Vader killing Palpatine, the Resistance on the run from the First Order rehashes the Rebellion on the run from the Empire, the battle on Crait rehashes the battle on Hoth, and the big reveal of Rey being a nobody is a ripoff of Vader's iconic line to Luke, "No, I am your father."
In addition to that, Luke Skywalker takes Yoda's place as the Jedi Master who isolates himself on a planet strong with the Force, Rey is a female rehash of Luke from the original trilogy except she barely has any character development, Snoke is a rehash of Palpatine, Kylo Ren is a rehash of Darth Vader, Hux is a rehash of Tarkin, and DJ is just Lando without a character arc.
@@Time-machinery-er9dq Hey! What's that over there? Oh! It's "the point"... flying right passed your head.
@agahnim0196 He didn't miss the point. He disagreed and backed his point with examples.
I had two conditions for the Last Jedi, and one was I'm done if they kill Luke because it's too predictable.
TLJ wasn't bold. It was petty. It ignored the world building, character development, and set up from the previous film for lazy and unsatisfying "twists". It was made worse by there being no trilogy plan, but even by itself, it's a poorly constructed film.
@@TheChristianPsychopath The point, that you seem to have missed as well, is that neither fan service or originality relates to quality, only good writing and direction do.
Change Last Jedi for Acolyte in my original post, the point remains the same.
@@agahnim0196 Thank you for clarifying, but I think the counter point that TLJ wasn't very original is still valid. It certainly wasn't as safe as TFA, but TFA did have a few fresh elements like the child soldier aspect, Finn, and the heroes/good guys being the ones in power that could have genuinely moved the story forward. Johnson just failed to explore those aspects that did make TFA different. The First Order went from being "a small remnant" to all over the galaxy in a matter of days after they had just taken a massive loss. The real world political commentary element of child soldiers was abandoned completely, and Finn got regulated to comedy relief. Johnson even failed to deal with why Kylo killed Han... Or how that alien lady got Luke's saber.
Or he gave unsatisfying answer to questions like who is Rey? Nobody. Absolutely every new thread introduced in TFA got dropped, which makes it seem even less creative than it was.
I do agree with you that it's not as simple as safe/not safe. Good franchise or formula fiction does hit some of the same beats. There's a balance between adding a new chapter to a story and still making it feel like a continuous story, set in the same world.
The prequels had flaws, but they made the galaxy seem bigger by introducing genuinely fresh locations. Coruscant, Naboo, etc. One trilogy focused on the powerless living on the fringe, and the other the powerful making decisions.
I'm thankful for George bringing his creative vision to making the prequel trilogy. I'm also thankful for the fan-editors who I believe really improved upon what George was trying to do.
Great video, Meg!
BlackRock has its tentacles everywhere, and Disney is no exception. BlackRock requires strict adherence to their DEI standards.
These contemporary writers do not understand that the opportunity for creativity exists within the creators vision. A major reason that they fail is because they have the attitude of 'well, it's mine now and i can do whatever i want.'
I’m just tired of all the fighting around Star Wars. What should be a harmless hobby has become a ground for a never ending cycle of blood disputes.
Edit: even now, the petty squabbles continue as they did when he was around, so too will they continue when he leaves this world.
That's on the people at Lucasfilm who would rather be antagonistic towards fans rather than protecting the franchise from divisiveness.
When has Lucasfilm been antagonistic towards the fans? I mean, you may hear people on the internet say stuff like "oh, Kathleen says that ep9 failed because of the men, she blames men" but then if you look her words up she never says anything in that sort of blaming light, and instead states that the fandom is mostly male dominant
Not even Amandla Stenberg has said anything like "all fans who dislike my series are racist", she simply called out those who HAVE been racist, and then everyone felt called out for some gosh darn reason. The problem is, the fandom has been divided since ep8 and it hasnt healed, so each new thing sparks conflict within the fandom, and then politics get in the way because people love politics in everything @@BaithNa
Btw is not like the company is all good and never does anything wrong. They SHOULD focus on the quality of their projects, but the people who start hostile debates and send death threats to others and call people who dislike the series "racist" just because they dont like it, all those people are part of the problem @@BaithNa
I'm sick of "purists" savagely slandering anything new - just enjoy new material for pure enjoyment instead of nitpicking it like an editor for a book.
Allow others to enjoy it, allow success to occur; just have fun as though you've never watched a Star Wars movie before. It's really easy to do. You know you want. This the way.
It's not a hobby if it's a billions a year game.
It seems like George Lucas is directly responding to Patton Oswalt’s comments on the Star Wars prequels in his act.
His biggest mistake was selling the IP to Disney. Complaining now, is like pouring water into the river. Pointless.
I´m pretty sure for him it wasn´t a mistake
Was it a mistake, though? If anything, his worst Star Wars stuff looks even better, now.
Just discovered your channel and subscribed. You're well spoken, your content is excellent, and that intro is rad!
He is a true stroy teller!!!!! 💯
Sees it coming ✅
Sells off anyway ✅
GJ George!
@@luketimewalker Spelling out full words is hard huh. "Good job", just too many letter to remember at once.
@@PattenedSkinnerBurgers yeah
ESB was amazing eh
@PattenedSkinnerBurgers not everyone feels the need to ramble on like you do
@@S_Gibly what do you mean? I feel bad he got so tired that he couldn't even complete two words. I mean after all there are a total of one syllable for each word. Stupid teachers in school and their damn expectations thinking people should use proper spelling. So dumb. Turn most if not all sentences into partial or full string of letters I say. Forget words, who needs them.
@@PattenedSkinnerBurgers you definitely won't be able to get through a reply without writing a paragraph 💔
The fans should be who control canon, we are the only ones who truly understand Star Wars. If enough fans don’t consider something Disney makes as canon and don’t watch it, they should have no choice but to retcon/remove it. Money is the language of Disney. Like we saw in the Acolyte, they cancelled a show immediately after they saw no return on investment. The fans need to come together to create a separate timeline/canon that includes or removes pieces of media Canon/Legends depending on the popular vote of the fans.
The problem with corporate creativity is that it's designed by committee. It results in lowest-common-denominator storytelling. Having the fans vote on everything would still be designed by committee, and would still result in lowest-common-denominator storytelling.
The key to success would be to have ONE fan, who truly loves Star Wars, who is a really good storyteller, and who has complete control over the IP. This is what George Lucas had going for him. He was one person who could make unpopular decisions, without having to answer to anyone. Were his decisions always the right ones? No. But it was his call, and creatively that's what is necessary.
Star Wars will never be the same again, because the days of one person, who loves the IP, having full control will never return.
George did it! I knew it!!!
He also stormed out when they suggested toning the deep dive into the microbiotic world of Whills and Midichlorians down, or changing it so people wouldn't get upset like they did with the prequels... so they didn't use it and used parts of his story that would bring in new fans.
The target audience is the new generation. *Star Wars* has always been written for pre and early teens until Andor. If you expected it to be something else, it's fine, but it'll never be what you expect. George still would've split the fandom with his idea.
He gets some things right and he gets other things way out in left field. He was probably smart getting mad, otherwise he'd still be advising and not enjoying his retirement, or doing more meaningful things. LFL will be fine without him. They have everything he wrote. They'll figure it out. The main thing to remember is to have fun. If it's not fun, wait for the next thing.
I agree with his comment about the needs of the story over fan service. That's why the Lucas Six will continue to entertain for generations!
The thing is, I appreciate George’s words, but also understand that there’s a little bit of it that doesn’t come off as sound as it probably should. He’s right in the sense that we see that too many corporations have a profit motive in mind these days with regards to not letting the creatives do their job. We see that this happens too often now where the executives want to make the creative decisions and the business decisions as opposed to letting the creative make the creative decisions and the business people make the business decisions. Companies are too worried that something will not make a profit so with Star Wars they just resort to doing some of the same things over and over again. They keep going back to the same time periods. They keep using the same characters and so on. However, I feel like given he is still at Disney shareholder and he still appreciates Disney for doing some good things on some of the stuff they’ve made he still is bought in that idea that “hey a company owns it now so what can I do”. Again, we also have to factor in that he sold that company based on the idea that he was also just completely bullied for making the films he made. The harness from fans that he received back in the day was ridiculous and still is now.
Yep, before Kelly Marie Tran was hated they hated Hayden Christiansen and Ahmed Best…
@@RNW11B94B yep! The cycle literally will not end and yet people still don’t get that.
Thanks Meg👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🍂🍁🍂🍁🍂
Here‘s the thing: besides the business side, he should never have introduced the midichlorians. That, to me, is the biggest break between the magic of the original trilogy and the prequels and sequels.
It all started with this big secret from the near past. I mean: it was merely 18 years between the fall of the Jedi and A New Hope. And yet, the galaxy had all but forgotten that time. Some people had an affinity to access a force that binds everything together. Some more, some less. But with training, you could advance.
And then we jump back to Anakin‘s childhood and suddenly, it‘s more like an STD. A technicality. The universe is a dirty place for most. Pick your poison, we have high levels of radioactivity, PFAS or midichlorians. Which one do you want? I MEAN: what would keep a mad man from extracting the little suckers and power-boosting themselves? After all, it’s not about the person, but about their force-biome. Surely, a space-faring society has developed dialysis, let‘s drain the good stuff…
And now that the magic is lost, why not have another magical power in the same universe? Let‘s not call it String Theory. Let‘s call it Thread.
George should have explored the wonder more. The search for balance vs the fast and furious attraction of the dark side. What was life with the Force like outside of the order? Which secrets of the universe did people uncover outside of technology? Did people cross over back and forth if they weren‘t forced into conflict? Perhaps there were positive aspects to the dark side… but alas, that was only explored in the extended universe…
Why was Darth Vader so iconic? Because in the end, he sacrificed his life in the pursuit of bringing back balance. He tried it all, saw it all, did it all and in the end, the only solution was to remove the haste and selfishness from the picture. And that‘s when we didn‘t even know about Padme. We only knew that he had saved Luke and the rebellion. His struggle was the story, not some space mission with highly advanced technology.
With the prequels, George started mansplaining all that was mysterious before. And that has only gotten more out of hand in my view.
The magic was never lost with the introduction to the midichlorians, which had always been there from the start. It was just a way to determine one's connection to the force. They mystery was always still there.
Agreed, take the midichlorians out and nothing is lost. We didn't need the explanation it provided. It was weird that he introduced it.
Na everyone too midchlorians too far. It was just supposed to be a way to measure the force in people. Fans forced it they Jedi should have a way to messue the force in people. It can still be a mystery on why and how.
Studios lacking creativity is something I think most can agree on. Most superhero movies, especially Sony’s spiderman adjacent ones are perfect examples of having things go the way they do solely because the committee deemed it so.
Honestly, the franchise frenzy that’s been going on in the industry for so long is a great example on its own.
He hit the nail on the head. If you are a creator never give up your creative control.
Why sell it to Disney then?
It makes perfect sense. Every single cult classic in my lifetime was not a big budget movie or critically acclaimed. The studios don’t have the patience for a well written throughout story.
If I ever get hold of a time machine, I'm going back to beg Lucas not to sell to Disney.
I just wish Lucas had put in the contract with Disney that any sequels must use his ideas. Disney would have accepted that because they wanted the franchise so badly. This can be an example for other creators when it comes time to sell their franchises.
He saw the future coming because he understood the art of movies and his success put him in that corporate world. He could see all sides. Nothing but respect for this man.
George Lucas: Can anybody pick up the phone? Because I freaking called it!
I tend to think that some of the problem with the new stuff is that THEY are thinking about their artistry, too. That’s how we end up with these creative types who think the show is so great and it’s going to be so awesome and then they don’t get why fans don’t like it. They’re focusing on their art.
The difference is that Lucas’ art became successful in a business / financial way, too. That’s how we get stories about how people were surprised when Episode IV did so well. They knew it was Lucas’ art, but they didn’t know it would connect with the audience so well.
The new crew making shows is very sure of and focused on their art; but their art isn’t connecting with the audience.
For the actors making Star Wars no one knew it would be this huge....to them it was a B-movie Flash Gordon film....even when it was made Georges Director mates said it was terrible then a few cuts in edit sound effects and finally music by John Williams and well....
Merchandising post disney has had its positives but the negatives are quite similar to a large extent to the issues with how Star Wars overall is run for the past 10+ years.
He was the one who agreed to let Disney take over it for huge amounts of coin, so Lucas is just as responsible for the demise as they are!
The first 6 films are technically independent films made by and financed by GL. That’s why are so much more successful that anything Disney will ever make as far as SW.
@@BobbyCoolBreeze The first film was funded by 20th Century Fox. His experience formed his view of corporate studios. Merch freed him up a bit more for ESB and ROTJ. Only the prequels were entirely independent.
@@teejay1035 i believe for distribution rights only but they had no say in production or creative decisions. I could be mistaken though. I’m pretty sure they didn’t meddle with the story.
Let's not forget that a lot of the original ideas he had for star wars back in the 70s was changed by the studio executives for the better, and the original trilogy is the most beloved.
Also, this is a man that said there would be too much sword fighting...while putting too much sword fighting in the prequels
When you have a product dedicated to its fans you can say things like "don't like it, don't watch it". Crazy right.
What pisses me off the most is not that George forsaw this years ago; it's the fact that he 100% supported the same executives when there was a chance to change the Board at Disney
Hollywood is a leading industry in ultra processed cinematography. The Cheetos factory of the art world.
XD
I'm with you about the George Lucas trilogies that each character was thought out and incorporated into the storyline and most merchandise. But Disney on their previous track record seemed to be capable of connecting with Star Wars. Now I'm like picking and choosing what I want to believe would be the true story of Star Wars. I really did love the ObiWan series and despite the reception the Boba Fett series. Both times were due to the actors.
Art needs to be perceived. It's a relationship between its creator and the audience. Passion vs Relevance. The artist brings his passion and the audience ultimately attributes relevance to the piece.
He's not the only one who predicted it, I had a vision of what would happen too. I had just had taco bell, and after 30 minutes on the toilet, I got up an looked in the bowl-
George Lucas is the G.O.A.T. In storytelling. A person inspiring to push beyond boundaries, which by doing so, made Star Wars so great.
Sadly, Disney’s best days were well behind them when they bought the rights to Star Wars. They were already knee deep in remakes, nostalgia baiting, and the dreaded “modernization” of classics for no reason other than to maximize profits off their IP. George was only partly right about Disney’s ability to grow the franchise. Sure, they grew it, but they also erased its soul,
The best way to prove Lucas' statement is to look at another IP. Superhero movies before the OG MCU were simply based on the origin story and the powers of the protagonist, what Kevin did was make the movies about the character and their development, and placing that development within a compelling story arc that shows not tells the development. The Clone Wars Animated Series showed Darth Vader's development in Anakin, and how his fall was so tragic. Him being the Force's Messiah so to speak, only to come down and join the Roman Empire. Story and character development is everything, and when the fans see that faltering or at worst, get provoked by creators who state they are deliberately "altering the deal", you're going to get a reaction.
This is how uncreative corporations are they're still trying to do the same things from 2010
George Lucas is a genius in my opinion. It’s really unfortunate what has happened to his work and property regarding Star Wars. Not only is there a lack of creativity and storytelling in movies, but it’s also happening to video games. I wouldn’t say that his comments were a prediction, but more about knowledge pertaining to game theory in relation to business and economics.
It makes me wonder if George knew/believed that when he retired, Lucasfilm was going to derail from his vision and go the way that it did. His understanding of the industry coupled with his knowledge of those around him for a story teller like George would have painted that picture nicely imo. Selling the company at that point allowed him to separate himself from the inevitable downfall he would have foreseen. Cashing out while the value was still there.
I think Lucas cares about the property, but his skillset is very specific. The studio was right to take creative control from him after New Hope.
He should've started with Anakin as a teenage padawan. The time wasted on seeing his childhood was really apparent in the rushed ending of ROTS. We never saw Luke as a little boy and we still got his full story.
It's as upsetting as it is baffling that George was and still has never been tapped to be the head creative of LF. Kennedy's and some of Filoni's duties should've been George's: greenlighting or rejecting projects, hiring and firing other creatives (writers, directors, producers, etc.), providing story outlines, creative guidance, etc.
When he exited after his sequels were rejected, Kennedy in her infinite wisdom took on most of that despite her not knowing or even caring about SW. A person who claimed there was no source material for Star Wars and said she doesn't owe the OT fans anything, as she did, has no business being in charge of it.
It would be nice if they brought back smaller budgets and DVD sales to make it easier for films to make money.
It should be obvious. Leave the art to the artists and leave the business to admin.
If everyone gets to pretend they can do any job, then half a dozen writers and actors should have a seat in the boardroom. Or let the accountant do the cameras or a while. And put CGI artists in HR. The management of film companies has too many frustrated wannabe creatives and DEI wankers sticking their uncreative noses into creative business, sucking the creativity out of their "products". If you are going to sanitise movies and TV, at least make them suitable for the kids.
Here we go again...
I want to understand something. If he feels this way, why did he sell it to a big studio? I need to understand the dynamics of his ownership of the property and why it got sold.
Him starting with IV because he know I was just gonna be too boring is funny to think about.
In video gaming industry, it is the likes of EA and Ubisoft making Star Wars content. And they do usually make technically and visually good looking games. However, they are driven by that corporate mentality that says "be careful and don't stray too far from what has already been done". They are afraid if they stray they will turn off the customer and thus they money they make. Recently, I have noticed that a lot of smaller independent game developers are doing extremely well in breaking from that mold. They are generally bringing some great content that pushes the envelope while still being good to look at and entertaining. Not all mind you but many. The film industry could benefit from doing much the same thing. Let the independent developers have their try at making Star Wars content. Let them push the envelope. We have seen this to a degree in animation but not so much on the big screen.
Don't confuse fan service with bad writing.
Fan service done right is the heart of the lore of any story.
6:55 This ought have been the spirit of Disney about the "viewership" of "The Acolyte" first season when dealing with stupid fandom - "you didn't like, you don't have to see it anymore!" -, and not keep the ones who liked it from watch the rest of the story.
There used to be 3 things that made a great movie. 1. Great script, 2. Believable acting and Direction, 3. Production. Sadly today you are lucky if even one shows up.
His voice sounds off. Do you know where that 1st video/sound was taken from?
Hi Meg, awesome news update , yes I agree that George was correct, until the various shows came out the movies after 3 was made, the movies are rinse and repeat in the last 3 films, I enjoyed them all but we needed change for StarWars and on his sale of Star Wars it we doen Hill, and we need a new movie with some new characters like Mando and Grogu but maybe a bad batch/Clone movie, and Ahsoka movie would help the fandom, thank you SWM
Jar Jar Binks is not Disney's fault, that's on George 😂
one word “ creativity “ .
the ten year old boy was when I STOPPED CARING about star wars.
Even if they actually cared, Disney would still lack creativity. My own story, that I put a ton of effort into, has rules: different time, different place, different conflict, different generation of tech, and don’t touch Luke. I only wish that official media would follow the same rules.
I don't make movies to make money. I make money to make more movies.
- Walt Disney
I think the reason why George never made his own sequel trilogy is he just didn’t have a good feeling about it. Apart from the fact that he didn’t want to invest 10 years of his remaining life into making more Star Wars movies.
Where did you go after return of the Jedi?
The executives were right though. OG fans of that time hated the prequel Trilogy.
Although I still did watch it in theaters when I was younger and enjoyed it somehow.
Not as much as the originals, but it got my interest.
But no one could have predicted that the younger generation of Star Wars fans would love it and will be inspired by it.
I showed it to my 12 year old son though, and he was appalled by it.
He's more of the Disney Star Wars trilogy generation.
Maybe when Gen Alpha grows up they'd be making content praising how Disney Star Wars was the best.
You never know.
What he’s saying is exactly the reason why I love Andor
I agree with wat lily’s says but the biggest mistake he ever made was selling Star Wars to Disney he should of went independent and kept doing Star Wars projects
There is no sequel triology...
Hey Chica!!! Is that YOU @ 6:36????