Actually, the Death Korps of Krieg are very generous when it comes to spending their ammunition. This is why they so often have to bayonet charge. And then comes the shovel for whatever is left... They are that good ;)
As if Death Corps would start any kind of offensive without first bombarding the sh*t out of their opponents. It's just they are no pussies and *will* step into no man's land as soon as artillery barrage moves further out into the enemy's lines.
Do not fear. Whenever there is a mighty character in 40k who fell from grace, lost all his friends and allies, lost all trust in the imperium, then somebody out there deep in the the warp will most likely send a friend's request.
This story really is a tragedy, especially because Huron in the modern Imperium leads one of the biggest chaos raiding factions in existence. A truly 40k story indeed.
@@erikjohnson5549 There are only two kinds of 40k stories when you think about it: 1) "... and thus, status quo was maintained" 2) "... and thus, things got worse from then on"
@@Self-replicating_whatnot Yep, its one of the reason the End Times were a disappointment to me in Warhammer fantasy. All those sacrifices and endurance amounted to nothing, Chaos said it was going to win and it won, all the suffering that lead up to it was pointless. If there is no catharsis, if endings can only lead to cabeiros, then grimdark loses a lot of its impact to me. When you invalidate the hope everyone sacrificed so much over generations to create, even if they did so in their own imperfect way, then there is no big payoff. I feel like GW's authors sometimes forget that, despite how fascinating these tales can be.
@@KaiserAfini that’s the grimdark, though. It’s all for nothing, it’s delaying the inevitable. And it eventually comes to the point where even your dignity is sacrificed just to keep it all going just a little longer…
this entire thing has "Just as planned" written all over it. in fact i wouldn't be surprised if one of those blue and gold astral claws was in fact a entirely different blue and gold marine
Huron: You and your scorpions are dead. Cullen: Do you hear that? Huron: Hear what? * Exorcist Battle Barge drops into low orbit THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
When the Tyrant was faced with a simpering mewling society of mortal wetmeat...having them be deployed as kamikaze drones is certainly a special way of saying "hey those people you claim to govern, you can have them back. by express mail."
Lufgt Huron may have lost all restraint and morals to the point of falling as low as a certain smug Inquisitor, But he has not lost one bit of his genius. If anything he is showing those fools at the Inquisition how utter ruthlessness is supposed to be applied, not in petty power games or extravagant examples, but in the cold pursuit of victory by any means.
Agreed, however I think it should be noted that Huron is kinda acting in a vacuum. He's the one at the top and those with enough power and position to challenge him, don't want to. The inquisitor is in an ever-changing quagmire of administrative officials, Imperial guard officers, ambitious space marine chapters and other fellow up and coming Inquisitors. Weather or not he wants to (and I think he dose), he has to play these power games in order to survive.
Yeah, that’s true. Huron can do whatever he wants because he’s a military genius that used to be a hero and is now slowly going insane from despair, frustration, hatred and at this point rage. No one is going to disagree with him, even though the Mantis Warriors and Lamenters have probably wanted to for years by now. Not so different from how the Nazis viewed Hitler as WW2 went on really. Glorious beloved savior to unstable madman. I’ve been rooting for Huron up to this point but after building a legion and wasting stolen gene seed…he’s just not the same guy anymore. I guess that’s what makes this story so tragic.
For all his madness, the tyrant's genius remains whole. I wonder if he has been touched by Chaos already or Warp change? The guy out tanked Cullen despite countless blows and a mortal wound. And the usage of that Claw... Huron is taking too much inspiration from Horus and Abaddon with the usage of that particular design of Power Claw.
The whole 'fingered power claw' design seems to be an older one, and so I'm not surprised that the tyrant's one has it's own history. Even the Emperor had a sick eagle taloned finger-claw gauntlet setup.
I'm not sure but there are rumors in-universe that Huron was already corrupted by the warp since his field trip in the Maelstrom, with Black Templars and co
@@marccrener497 So, Huron went into the Maelstrom and ended up like Fulgrim with his shiny silver sword? Is it possible that this is all Slaanesh's fault?
@@tomaszzalewski4541 He went to fight orks and most likely botched it so bad, there are no records of what happened. This time orks must've reached his light-years-away command post.
Holy shit that was crazy The Tyrant, even after his declaration that the Imperium is a rotting carcass worth less than the dirt on his boots still has sympathizers in loyalist positions to such a degree that he knew where the hammer was to fall? And the warp nonsense that delayed and partially hindered the Loyalist fleet appears to be a sign of things yet to come. Further, how is one man, even a chapter master of the Astartes, so resilient as to be able to continue fighting after having a power sword thrust into him, and what warp witchery makes his claw be able to leave wounds that even Astartes biology cannot rapidly close? While our black-hearted Tyrant may not be worshipping the Ruinous Powers, it seems that they have thrown their lot in with him. Loving the narration, Inquisitor. Keep it up!
@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 it was that shanking that made the imperium the way it is without those shankings The war master wouldn’t have turned to chaos
Astral Claws: Look all we wanted to do was protect the autonomous zone and we seized it for that reason. I mean the fact that we got to control a vast area of space while sitting on a trove of valuable resources is just a coincidence.
They still made it safer, more efficient, had better trained troops, a solid navy, respected the Imperial Cult and Administratum, had a solid space marine presence, cordial relationships with the nearby forge world and a higher quality of life standard than the majority of the Imperium. Had this war not started, he could have built a second Ultramar in the autonomous zone, true to his gene father's legacy. Maybe it would have become a pillar of strength, both in military and resource production, for the entire Imperium. It was the Imperium being unreasonable and inflexible that made it all unravel.
WW1 and as for WW2, excluding the USA: Basically any devastating war for even the victors. Apparently, Britain kept rationing until 1956, China became communist and hence suffered an internal genocide of 45 million (that the lowest estimate) of its own people via Moa Zedong's Red Guards, and communists approach to farming, and the USSR and its now slave states of western Europe, proved George Orwell's prediction of communism in 1984 accurate. Finland and Norway seemed OK though. France had lots of reprisals on Germans, pro Germans, and apparently near genocidal approach to some or at least one of its colonies, seemingly becoming the new oppressors...they even attacked my country's peace keeping forces in the Congo, (I'm Irish) as they seemed to to horrific things to the African natives. Presumably because their massively overwhelming pride was shattered by German occupation being saved by outside forces instead of France itself.
@@jacob5395 cool. God bless you Jacob. Thank you for this information. 🇺🇸❤💙✝️🕊🙋♂️💚🧡🇮🇪 Thanks USA for the guns during The Irish War of Independence and even though I don't agree with everything the PIRA did, during the Troubles civil war in Northern Ireland, without US guns, Irish nationalists would have been slaughtered far worse. "There are those who claim to be Christians, but are not. They are ravenous wolves, and by their fruits, you shall know them." That's a bible quote that the Lord gave me in prayer, for any British loyalists that claimed that they where fighting for God. They were not fighting for Satan, even if they claimed that the fought for Jesus, God knew.
@@jacob5395 I'm not saying that the Catholic Church was innocent either: child rape happened because of their scribes and Pharisees type corruption in covering it up and putting their laws over biblical teaching. Like calling the pope "infallible".
Hey arch I recently went back to rewatch your officio assasinorum mini series while waiting for this episode of badab and noticed that the first video in the playlist was set to private. Really hoping you can bring that video back as the series feels incomplete without its opening episode.
"I thought you said we were fighting cartago administrates..." "Oh no i said chaos astarties, thats what we call traitor marines, its a regional dialect" "Uh huhh, what region?" "Uhhhhh.... Badab primaris?" "Realy? Well im from Badab secundus, ive never heard the term "chaos astarties" "Oh not Badab no, its an Endimyan expression" "I see...."
I for one am looking forward to the new, stunning, brave and progressive "Critical Imperium Theory" curriculum that will be instituted in schools across the Badab sector.
He can't as he has been Excommunicated by GW and all those that consort with him will also receive Inquisitoral censure. He has to remain a Loyalist Renegade, much like a certain popular Space Marine chapter. 🦈
@@Marinealver All I see are loyalists beholden to segmenting their forces fighting a foe who is not, who has tricked 3 whole chapters into fighting alongside him against other loyalists, a situation division into chapters is supposed to prevent.
@trueblueprussian 23 It does when you create a freakin 4 chapter hierarchy out of remarkably independent chapters, and give them the time to get to know each other and a resource-rich sub sector to lord over. Even better, consider just how many wars have been lost when chapters have refused to coordinate with each other, or outright fought each other. At the core, arrogance caused the Great Heresy. Transhuman demigods, Space Marines especially, need a healthy dose of humility. It really says something that the nobles of Terra turned Adeptes Custodes are far more flexible and selfless in service; for example, they vouched for the Sisters of Battle who were wrecking the Imperial Palace. Could you imagine what the reaction of the Imperial Fists would have been? Arrogance is not solved by division into chapters, in fact it only exacerbates many of the problems it causes. Guilliman really missed the point in favor of superficial regulations. Sure, it might have humbled the Legion members themselves, but it has no such effect on modern Marines. I would also point out that those Legions with a strong identity their Primarchs tried to overrule, such as the Dust Strikers, were less susceptible to chaos. Oh great Guilliman, was it perhaps blind adherence to authority, not that your codex demands such, of course - that led so many astray? The codex was a short-term solution, a band-aid to stop another Heresy applied to Legions that had already proven they had little need of it. The real solution was to reform the legions around ideas that chaos could not corrupt as easily, such as peace, self-sacrifice, chivalry or technological progress for the sake of human transcendence of base emotions. I would note many of the Legions that did not turn or experienced civil war rather than full rebellion were based on such ideals.
@@liamhogan4369two things about that: 1. In the post-Heresy era, operating the Legions was simply no longer sustainable. Breaking them down into smaller formations was inevitable. 2. Tge codex WAS meant to be a short-term solution. Guilliman didn't plan to get taken out of the game for thousands of years. But Fulgrim had other ideas.
@@draochvar9646Fair points, let me offer some counterpoints. Not sustainable? I can’t buy that when full on crusading chapters with remarkably less logistical support manage to have almost crusade level forces. Like the Space Wolves, the Black Templars, the Marines Malevolent, the Exorcists (though in their case they merely maintain a chapter through insane levels of attrition), and the Astral Claws. 2. Fair. This is also seen in Dorn’s little final Bulwark plan not panning out after 10 millennia.
Yes and no. The strategic picture was bad enough before Centurion "Shorter Now" screwed the pooch sideways. It only really sped up the fall. Nothing the Executioners were going to do would have allowed the Tyrant to go on a real offensive, so there was no hope of regaining the initiative. Being purely defensive is as recipe for defeat.
I'm noticing something here about the Claw's slip into chaotic ways. This is post Vraks, which means the Chaos gods had a front row seat to their army's problems. Chief among them being that directly open chaotic assaults invite the perfect counter-assault. They might be entirely self-centered, but they aren't dumb. So if they wanted some new feeding grounds, why not do what they did during the Heresy? Manipulate others into creating the chaotic situation for them? Add incidents like the Un-Hallowed Heart space hulk + the noble houses boarder incident... It's sounding more and more like the gods of chaos took a slow and steady approach to this one.
The heresy was set up to destroy the emperor and was a rare situation when all 4 gods worked toghether....they are usually playing their great game and not paying much attention to the squabbel that's going on....the black crusades are abbadon's own thing
@@williamblack6912 Totally fair. Still, I do think Vraks has a say in how they went about this particular fiasco. Especially With Carab Culln in the situation he is with the near-death duel he has somehow survived. (He was instrumental in denying the chaos gods their prize. This strikes me as an effective way to spit in the "troublemaker's" face. Yes, he lived. But only by a last second action on both his part and the chapter's warship.)
@@williamblack6912 And also true, the chaos gods virtually never "work together" on any level. That's more or less the only reason the imperium and everyone else isn't completely buggered. Only a rare universally common threat could get them to temporarily truce. The emperor was the last such instance in recorded memory I'm aware of.
When you work your way through the fluff the badab war is basically the horus heresy on a much smaller scale. I think that Huron is a latent psyker and got corrupted by his own pride and arrogance like many before. The rest was just good old human stupidety. He did not swear loyalty to chaos until he was patched up after he was blasted on badab after everything went downhill. Getting transformed into a sockpuppet for the gods without even knowing it....sad
Thinking about it. Badab is kinda a mini alternet Horus heresy. You got the rebel - Astral claws (possible ultramarines) - Mantis warriors (white scars) - Lamentors (blood angels) - Executioners (imperial fists) Vs loyalist - Red scorpions (possible emperor's children) - Charcaradons (possible night lords) - Minotaurs (possible iron warriors)
SO wish you would post more 40k lore vids. TBH Im glad you created a 2nd channel. While I agree with your thoughts and comments about the nonsense going on in the world your lore vids are what drew me into your channel, the passion and attention to detail and snarky comments added in. However your lore vids provide not just a deep dive into 40k but an escape from that nonsense.
I'm getting more and more surprised there are any Astartes left in the Imperium considering how often they fight down to their last handful of battle brothers and "will need decades, if not centuries to rebuild". The Guard, sure, but when it comes to battleships, titans and Astartes chapters, these things should not be dying like flies all over the place, it's really getting into dawn of war territory where they simple seem to spawn new squads when needed.
Decades and centuries is a bit of time, and the Astartes only go to real bad battle zones, and these kinds of losses are the really horrendous battle zones. Standard combat ops, losing a single battle brother is a rarity.
Third time listening to it and it’s still good! .......... ok I may have been really busy at work and didn’t have time to que up something else to listen too....... doesn’t change my previous point though.
"had turned the inquisition against Carab Cullen" First inquisitor Rex on Vraks, now this, has working with the inquisition _ever_ turned out well for the Red Scorpions?
We play the algorithm for the sake of lore. We seek lore for the sake of knowledge. We gain knowledge for the sake of power. We use power for the sake of freedom
@@NKM5896 No i meant that i want the old vod not new stuff. Thx now i noticed and edited my error. I understand Vee was an annoying little dick but he brought fun into the storys : (
wait a minute, what about the impenetrable ring of steel protecting the Baddab sector. The one that was built over the course of centuries and destroyed the Cartago tax fleet. Was that nothing more than a mine field and some space stations to weak to fight anything bigger than pirates?
@@sonofjack6286 Ah that explains it. I thought it was a defense grid for all of Baddab not just one solar system. Kind of seams less impressive now:( But i guess that even with all the resource extraction zones wealth it would have been to expensive fortifying a whole sector.
Dear GW, we need Battlefleet Gothic 2nd Edition Only replace the Ordenance Phase with the Boarding Phase, and NO RANDOM LEADERSHIP Andy Chambers! (Save that for the Orks)
One of the bigger plot holes thus far has to be that somehow the people of baddab and the tyrants legion. Didn't know they were fighting the imperium. Honestly I question if they would even need to hide it most of all. I mean the imperium is literally fighting a war of extermination. However in this case I think this is just something I will ignore in my own personal headcannon as I honestly feel it's pretty... unnecessary. I mean honestly I would expect the people of baddab to be loyal to the warders. After all it was them (not the imperium) who delivered them from. The endless strife and destruction of the maelstrom extraction grids worst, and it was for centuries they defended them. No matter the foe. You would likely stand with those protectors. Even aginst the expansive but distant and uncaring imperium.
Despite everything they did, never forget that the Astral Claws sank as low as they did because of the negligence and stupidity of the Imperium. The War for Badab is all the Inquisition's fault.
Huron: You may be at my Door, but Cullin...listen. Do you hear that? Cullin: Hear what? Huron: Exactly, Cullin, you're not the predators...you're my prey.
Ok, I know this is a late time to ask this but, has this series put the Mantis-Warriors in any one else's top five Chapter list? like seriously every time thy show up, thy just mop the floor with everyone. And I'm always a fan of people who put the fire-hawks in their place.
So he's saying, if I'm going to condemned, let's give them a good reason! | 7:08 - Red Shirts do their part, regardless of what side they're on. | 9:00 - Good intentions? The road to hell is paved with quite a few of those. | 10:03 - So a little worse than within the Loyalist systems?...Except perhaps the Salamanders, of course. | 12:50 - Red? They'll go faster! | 15:40 - The Executioners would've been good to have in that. | So some sons of Rogal Dorn and some possible Loyalist Word Bearers are sent to bring destruction. | 25:15 - As in "Over here! Hope you're ready for us, heretic scum!" | Helmuth von Moltke the Elder was right...
The way this series was described I was expecting there to be more back and forth with the imperium winning some and then the warders winning others, so far it has been all warders victories followed by all imperial victories with this being the closest thing to a warders victory for a while yet still not a victory.
DAMN this was a good one Arch! You seriously should be working for the History Channel or the Discovery Channel as one of their narrators! You've got a damn good talent for speech and your attention to detail is superb! Till next time we hear from ya
Im at 14 minutes in, im getting increasingly blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne vibes! (Edit) Damn that was a brilliant episode, best one yet!
Always expend ammuntion before men.... Deathcorps of Krieg: Disgruntled angry noices under gas mask...
*turns to deathcorpse*
"there are exeptions however"
*happy deathcorpse noises*
The Death Corps of Krieg have a small amount of ammo per soldier right?
They'll just fire faster to charge with shovels
Actually, the Death Korps of Krieg are very generous when it comes to spending their ammunition. This is why they so often have to bayonet charge. And then comes the shovel for whatever is left... They are that good ;)
Deathcorps be like why not both
As if Death Corps would start any kind of offensive without first bombarding the sh*t out of their opponents. It's just they are no pussies and *will* step into no man's land as soon as artillery barrage moves further out into the enemy's lines.
Do not fear. Whenever there is a mighty character in 40k who fell from grace, lost all his friends and allies, lost all trust in the imperium, then somebody out there deep in the the warp will most likely send a friend's request.
This story really is a tragedy, especially because Huron in the modern Imperium leads one of the biggest chaos raiding factions in existence.
A truly 40k story indeed.
@@erikjohnson5549 There are only two kinds of 40k stories when you think about it:
1) "... and thus, status quo was maintained"
2) "... and thus, things got worse from then on"
Look on the bright side. Huron’s still keeping the Resource Extraction Grid safe from the Imperium’s abuse. Just…in a different way.
@@Self-replicating_whatnot Yep, its one of the reason the End Times were a disappointment to me in Warhammer fantasy. All those sacrifices and endurance amounted to nothing, Chaos said it was going to win and it won, all the suffering that lead up to it was pointless. If there is no catharsis, if endings can only lead to cabeiros, then grimdark loses a lot of its impact to me. When you invalidate the hope everyone sacrificed so much over generations to create, even if they did so in their own imperfect way, then there is no big payoff. I feel like GW's authors sometimes forget that, despite how fascinating these tales can be.
@@KaiserAfini that’s the grimdark, though. It’s all for nothing, it’s delaying the inevitable. And it eventually comes to the point where even your dignity is sacrificed just to keep it all going just a little longer…
Lord Huron: I'm about to do what's known as a pro gamer move
Which is?
@@nicolasmaltais7755 chaos
@@tomaszzalewski4541 choas
Choas?
@@inquisitionagent9052 yes. 100% not chaos, that would be heresy
"...a speech in which he condemned the rotting carcass that is the Imperium..."
Hey, I've seen this one, it's a classic!
The inqusition: "What do you mean? It's brand new."
Cullen: “put the knives down Huron!!!”
Huron: “I can’t!!!”
And in the depths of the warp, four reality tumors are laughing their asses off.
Agreed!
All because the High Lords didn’t think the Astral Ckaws were worth their time.
this entire thing has "Just as planned" written all over it.
in fact i wouldn't be surprised if one of those blue and gold astral claws was in fact a entirely different blue and gold marine
One of them: Hey watch this!
**plucks an Imperial ship in the warp.
Them: *burp
No, 3 are. One is playing with his new ship full of blood and Corpses from last week.
Huron: You and your scorpions are dead.
Cullen: Do you hear that?
Huron: Hear what?
* Exorcist Battle Barge drops into low orbit
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
COMING OUT THE VOID THEY FLY!!!!
COMING DOWN THEY TURNED THE TIDE!
Noice
Winged demons*
Then the Battle Barge arrived!*
When the Tyrant was faced with a simpering mewling society of mortal wetmeat...having them be deployed as kamikaze drones is certainly a special way of saying "hey those people you claim to govern, you can have them back. by express mail."
Lufgt Huron may have lost all restraint and morals to the point of falling as low as a certain smug Inquisitor, But he has not lost one bit of his genius. If anything he is showing those fools at the Inquisition how utter ruthlessness is supposed to be applied, not in petty power games or extravagant examples, but in the cold pursuit of victory by any means.
Agreed, however I think it should be noted that Huron is kinda acting in a vacuum.
He's the one at the top and those with enough power and position to challenge him, don't want to.
The inquisitor is in an ever-changing quagmire of administrative officials, Imperial guard officers, ambitious space marine chapters and other fellow up and coming Inquisitors. Weather or not he wants to (and I think he dose), he has to play these power games in order to survive.
Yeah, that’s true. Huron can do whatever he wants because he’s a military genius that used to be a hero and is now slowly going insane from despair, frustration, hatred and at this point rage. No one is going to disagree with him, even though the Mantis Warriors and Lamenters have probably wanted to for years by now. Not so different from how the Nazis viewed Hitler as WW2 went on really. Glorious beloved savior to unstable madman. I’ve been rooting for Huron up to this point but after building a legion and wasting stolen gene seed…he’s just not the same guy anymore. I guess that’s what makes this story so tragic.
"I couldn't resist"
The Ordo Hereticus knows. Knock knock.
For all his madness, the tyrant's genius remains whole. I wonder if he has been touched by Chaos already or Warp change? The guy out tanked Cullen despite countless blows and a mortal wound. And the usage of that Claw... Huron is taking too much inspiration from Horus and Abaddon with the usage of that particular design of Power Claw.
Read up on the origins of that claw. It may just be the ultimate cause of the whole mess.
The whole 'fingered power claw' design seems to be an older one, and so I'm not surprised that the tyrant's one has it's own history.
Even the Emperor had a sick eagle taloned finger-claw gauntlet setup.
I'm not sure but there are rumors in-universe that Huron was already corrupted by the warp since his field trip in the Maelstrom, with Black Templars and co
@@marccrener497 So, Huron went into the Maelstrom and ended up like Fulgrim with his shiny silver sword? Is it possible that this is all Slaanesh's fault?
@@korstmahler Yeah, I know that the Emperor and Horus had similar claw designs. Maybe some Space Wolves too?
Last time I was this early lord Commander Julker could still pretend to be a decent commander
And still had his head.
@@MizantropMan he wasn't killed, just got a new assignment - justice in imperium is as always a b****
@@tomaszzalewski4541 He went to fight orks and most likely botched it so bad, there are no records of what happened.
This time orks must've reached his light-years-away command post.
Admiral Ozzel from Star Wars Imperial Navy vs Lord Commander Julker from Warhammer 40,000 Imperial Guard.
Who Will Win?
@@Marinealver The strong woman, duh.
The red scorpions know how to get s*** done when they're not being too picky
"It's seems that you don't understand, the Maelstrom isn't YOURS to conquer." Luft Huron
They're Ultramarines successors when they hold a rally or speech when everything is going to crap
Holy shit that was crazy
The Tyrant, even after his declaration that the Imperium is a rotting carcass worth less than the dirt on his boots still has sympathizers in loyalist positions to such a degree that he knew where the hammer was to fall? And the warp nonsense that delayed and partially hindered the Loyalist fleet appears to be a sign of things yet to come.
Further, how is one man, even a chapter master of the Astartes, so resilient as to be able to continue fighting after having a power sword thrust into him, and what warp witchery makes his claw be able to leave wounds that even Astartes biology cannot rapidly close?
While our black-hearted Tyrant may not be worshipping the Ruinous Powers, it seems that they have thrown their lot in with him.
Loving the narration, Inquisitor. Keep it up!
The Imperium deserves everything that has happened to them.
@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 it’s all your fault
@@cirroc213 I may have shanked a few people but I can’t ruin nearly as much as Imperium itself can.
@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 it was that shanking that made the imperium the way it is without those shankings The war master wouldn’t have turned to chaos
@@cirroc213 No no not that shanking that was The Word Bearers fault.
Astral Claws: Look all we wanted to do was protect the autonomous zone and we seized it for that reason. I mean the fact that we got to control a vast area of space while sitting on a trove of valuable resources is just a coincidence.
*cough* Ultramar *cough*
They still made it safer, more efficient, had better trained troops, a solid navy, respected the Imperial Cult and Administratum, had a solid space marine presence, cordial relationships with the nearby forge world and a higher quality of life standard than the majority of the Imperium. Had this war not started, he could have built a second Ultramar in the autonomous zone, true to his gene father's legacy. Maybe it would have become a pillar of strength, both in military and resource production, for the entire Imperium. It was the Imperium being unreasonable and inflexible that made it all unravel.
@KaiserAfini yeah so unreasonable to say "No Can not invade hell and yes you have to pay taxes."
@@outrageddeer2101 But I wanna!
@@cousinzeke4888here's the difference though: Ultramar pays it EMPEROR-DAMNED taxes!
It's a rare gamble when every side loses badly, *Laughs in Confused Mollusk*
This may or may not be the case.
WW1 and as for WW2, excluding the USA:
Basically any devastating war for even the victors.
Apparently, Britain kept rationing until 1956, China became communist and hence suffered an internal genocide of 45 million (that the lowest estimate) of its own people via Moa Zedong's Red Guards, and communists approach to farming, and the USSR and its now slave states of western Europe, proved George Orwell's prediction of communism in 1984 accurate.
Finland and Norway seemed OK though.
France had lots of reprisals on Germans, pro Germans, and apparently near genocidal approach to some or at least one of its colonies, seemingly becoming the new oppressors...they even attacked my country's peace keeping forces in the Congo, (I'm Irish) as they seemed to to horrific things to the African natives. Presumably because their massively overwhelming pride was shattered by German occupation being saved by outside forces instead of France itself.
@@davidodonovan1699 Makes me appreciate Lyndon B. Johnson even more. He put De Gaulle in his place when he threatened to leave NATO.
@@jacob5395 cool. God bless you Jacob. Thank you for this information. 🇺🇸❤💙✝️🕊🙋♂️💚🧡🇮🇪
Thanks USA for the guns during The Irish War of Independence and even though I don't agree with everything the PIRA did, during the Troubles civil war in Northern Ireland, without US guns, Irish nationalists would have been slaughtered far worse.
"There are those who claim to be Christians, but are not. They are ravenous wolves, and by their fruits, you shall know them."
That's a bible quote that the Lord gave me in prayer, for any British loyalists that claimed that they where fighting for God. They were not fighting for Satan, even if they claimed that the fought for Jesus, God knew.
@@jacob5395 I'm not saying that the Catholic Church was innocent either: child rape happened because of their scribes and Pharisees type corruption in covering it up and putting their laws over biblical teaching. Like calling the pope "infallible".
Huron: There is a difference between getting cheated and getting out played, Culln.
I guess the war was rigged from the start...
"Hey Cullen stopped your offensive!"
"Hey Huron, I think we killed all your ships!"
@@lordfrostwind3151 Was that a Mummy reference? XD
@@lordfrostwind3151 Leave it to the Exorcists to turn a hopeless ambush slaughter into a tactical draw and a strategic victory.
Hey arch I recently went back to rewatch your officio assasinorum mini series while waiting for this episode of badab and noticed that the first video in the playlist was set to private. Really hoping you can bring that video back as the series feels incomplete without its opening episode.
Hope he noticed this comment
as do i!
Bump
Someone make a "Steamed Hams" meme of Huron denying that he's fighting the imperium to a Tyrants Guard member
"Are those Loyalist Space marines?!"
"No, no, those TRAITOR Marines..."
"...can I know what war-bands they are?"
"...no."
"I thought you said we were fighting cartago administrates..."
"Oh no i said chaos astarties, thats what we call traitor marines, its a regional dialect"
"Uh huhh, what region?"
"Uhhhhh.... Badab primaris?"
"Realy? Well im from Badab secundus, ive never heard the term "chaos astarties"
"Oh not Badab no, its an Endimyan expression"
"I see...."
The tyrant: I have you right where I want you!
Cullen: well you’re a traitor and a big stupid meanie
The tyrant: you wot m8!
I for one am looking forward to the new, stunning, brave and progressive "Critical Imperium Theory" curriculum that will be instituted in schools across the Badab sector.
It's ultimately bad for poor chaos and xenos or so say imperial conservatives
LOL
Slavilians: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Loyalist Astartes: 🤨 *confused bolter fire?
The tyrant has run out of friends,
That was easy button:
Arch-chama needs to collab with Outer Circle-san again to collectively laugh at GW's utter inability to understand their own main setting.
He can't as he has been Excommunicated by GW and all those that consort with him will also receive Inquisitoral censure.
He has to remain a Loyalist Renegade, much like a certain popular Space Marine chapter.
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"Reinforcements would be sent in when they had decapitated all local resistance" with astartes I can't tell if that's meant metaphorically or not.
Both
Definately both when chainswords, force swords, and power swords are involved
Getting some Horus Heresy vibes from this series, in the respect of:
Chaos gods: "Humanity? What a joke, when half of even your best turn on you."
Every Chapter going Renegade is the Horus Heresy played out at a microscopic scale.
Just as Roberto Guilliman intended.
@@Marinealver All I see are loyalists beholden to segmenting their forces fighting a foe who is not, who has tricked 3 whole chapters into fighting alongside him against other loyalists, a situation division into chapters is supposed to prevent.
@trueblueprussian 23 It does when you create a freakin 4 chapter hierarchy out of remarkably independent chapters, and give them the time to get to know each other and a resource-rich sub sector to lord over.
Even better, consider just how many wars have been lost when chapters have refused to coordinate with each other, or outright fought each other.
At the core, arrogance caused the Great Heresy. Transhuman demigods, Space Marines especially, need a healthy dose of humility. It really says something that the nobles of Terra turned Adeptes Custodes are far more flexible and selfless in service; for example, they vouched for the Sisters of Battle who were wrecking the Imperial Palace. Could you imagine what the reaction of the Imperial Fists would have been?
Arrogance is not solved by division into chapters, in fact it only exacerbates many of the problems it causes. Guilliman really missed the point in favor of superficial regulations. Sure, it might have humbled the Legion members themselves, but it has no such effect on modern Marines.
I would also point out that those Legions with a strong identity their Primarchs tried to overrule, such as the Dust Strikers, were less susceptible to chaos. Oh great Guilliman, was it perhaps blind adherence to authority, not that your codex demands such, of course - that led so many astray?
The codex was a short-term solution, a band-aid to stop another Heresy applied to Legions that had already proven they had little need of it. The real solution was to reform the legions around ideas that chaos could not corrupt as easily, such as peace, self-sacrifice, chivalry or technological progress for the sake of human transcendence of base emotions. I would note many of the Legions that did not turn or experienced civil war rather than full rebellion were based on such ideals.
@@liamhogan4369two things about that:
1. In the post-Heresy era, operating the Legions was simply no longer sustainable. Breaking them down into smaller formations was inevitable.
2. Tge codex WAS meant to be a short-term solution. Guilliman didn't plan to get taken out of the game for thousands of years. But Fulgrim had other ideas.
@@draochvar9646Fair points, let me offer some counterpoints.
Not sustainable? I can’t buy that when full on crusading chapters with remarkably less logistical support manage to have almost crusade level forces. Like the Space Wolves, the Black Templars, the Marines Malevolent, the Exorcists (though in their case they merely maintain a chapter through insane levels of attrition), and the Astral Claws.
2. Fair. This is also seen in Dorn’s little final Bulwark plan not panning out after 10 millennia.
Last time I was this early Commisar Yarrick was still a private.
Technically a commissar is outside of ig rank structure so I doubt there is something like private commissar (with exception of those in training)
@@tomaszzalewski4541 Schola Progenium Cadet, Commissar Cadet, Junior Commissar.
Commissars are not inside the regular command structure and are not recruited from the guard ranks.
Your statement is both ignorant and lacks comedy.
@@ZackeTheBrute man, spoilsport isn't helping, ecpecially when delivered with such condensation
I get the feeling that the Astral Claws are about to find some friends in low places.
Que Garth Brooks
Arch, you imperial saint. Here I was sitting around with no audio to fill the void, and you go and post more Badab.
Bless ya. c :
So what your saying is that Lufgt Huron brought peace, prosperity, and stability to his, new empire?
Who would have thought that smaller scale government led by sthe superhuman astartes in a resource rich part of the galaxy would be a good thing? XD
His new empire?!
That Astral Claws Centurion really fucked Luft Huron over didn't he?
Yes..yes he did.
Yes and no. The strategic picture was bad enough before Centurion "Shorter Now" screwed the pooch sideways. It only really sped up the fall. Nothing the Executioners were going to do would have allowed the Tyrant to go on a real offensive, so there was no hope of regaining the initiative. Being purely defensive is as recipe for defeat.
And here I thought the Tyrant would score a kill. I'm kind of disappointed...
Me too, shame
@@76dg15plot armour is one hell of a thing 🤷🏻♂️
I feel like i missed something, what happened to the massive 'Ring of Steel' defense grid the Astral Claws had?
They haven't reached that yet.
This would be closer to the Malestorm Reach, not the Maelstorm New Mombasa.
Captain of the Redeemer: "Bring me closer I must hit them with my sword!!!"
"a new sun appears...the redeemer"
klovis the redeemer lowers from the sky doing the solaire pose
"Praise the sun!"
*Gets shot for heresy*
All we are missing now is a fan made wh40k void battle video and I am willing to pay if it is Astartes level quality.
I'm noticing something here about the Claw's slip into chaotic ways. This is post Vraks, which means the Chaos gods had a front row seat to their army's problems. Chief among them being that directly open chaotic assaults invite the perfect counter-assault. They might be entirely self-centered, but they aren't dumb. So if they wanted some new feeding grounds, why not do what they did during the Heresy? Manipulate others into creating the chaotic situation for them? Add incidents like the Un-Hallowed Heart space hulk + the noble houses boarder incident... It's sounding more and more like the gods of chaos took a slow and steady approach to this one.
The heresy was set up to destroy the emperor and was a rare situation when all 4 gods worked toghether....they are usually playing their great game and not paying much attention to the squabbel that's going on....the black crusades are abbadon's own thing
@@williamblack6912 Totally fair. Still, I do think Vraks has a say in how they went about this particular fiasco. Especially With Carab Culln in the situation he is with the near-death duel he has somehow survived. (He was instrumental in denying the chaos gods their prize. This strikes me as an effective way to spit in the "troublemaker's" face. Yes, he lived. But only by a last second action on both his part and the chapter's warship.)
@@williamblack6912 And also true, the chaos gods virtually never "work together" on any level. That's more or less the only reason the imperium and everyone else isn't completely buggered. Only a rare universally common threat could get them to temporarily truce. The emperor was the last such instance in recorded memory I'm aware of.
@@pyerack Sounds about right.
When you work your way through the fluff the badab war is basically the horus heresy on a much smaller scale. I think that Huron is a latent psyker and got corrupted by his own pride and arrogance like many before. The rest was just good old human stupidety. He did not swear loyalty to chaos until he was patched up after he was blasted on badab after everything went downhill. Getting transformed into a sockpuppet for the gods without even knowing it....sad
The Exorcists basically pulled off the 40k version of Adama's Gambit
Praise our Savoir and Loremaster Arch, as he brings us more Lore. Bring forth likes and comments to make his channel prosper and grow!
I'm betting that captain of the exorcist's ship saying i'm a leaf on the wind watch me saw lol as his ship groaned back out into space
Pyrrhic Victories, Warhammer sure does love them.
are there other kinds of victories in 40k?
"Always expend ammunition before men" - I feel like a lot of 40k generals haven"t gotten that note yet
"wait, they aren't the same thing?" - a commissar, probably
@@thorveim1174 ah, yes. comissar knutson arseholus, died terribly against a Nurgle Astartes.
Not really but that's the official story.
I really hope that GW lets the guy who made Astartes make more beautiful work and anime this war
Astral claws kinda turned into skaven there -".. not caring for their lives, shot through them"
The comment for the Algorithmus, glory to Arch.
Just what I needed at the end of work and right before DnD
Thinking about it. Badab is kinda a mini alternet Horus heresy.
You got the rebel
- Astral claws (possible ultramarines)
- Mantis warriors (white scars)
- Lamentors (blood angels)
- Executioners (imperial fists)
Vs loyalist
- Red scorpions (possible emperor's children)
- Charcaradons (possible night lords)
- Minotaurs (possible iron warriors)
You right.
The Huron Heresey
The badab war lore was written before the horus herest lore. In a weird way it IS the og heresy.
SO wish you would post more 40k lore vids. TBH Im glad you created a 2nd channel. While I agree with your thoughts and comments about the nonsense going on in the world your lore vids are what drew me into your channel, the passion and attention to detail and snarky comments added in. However your lore vids provide not just a deep dive into 40k but an escape from that nonsense.
FOR THE ALGORITHM
For the oooordooooor
Also the emperor mans
Nam algorith. Ave Arcus
NO DEBATE!
NO DISCOURSE!
NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT!
EL WWWAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHO!!!
I'm getting more and more surprised there are any Astartes left in the Imperium considering how often they fight down to their last handful of battle brothers and "will need decades, if not centuries to rebuild". The Guard, sure, but when it comes to battleships, titans and Astartes chapters, these things should not be dying like flies all over the place, it's really getting into dawn of war territory where they simple seem to spawn new squads when needed.
Decades and centuries is a bit of time, and the Astartes only go to real bad battle zones, and these kinds of losses are the really horrendous battle zones. Standard combat ops, losing a single battle brother is a rarity.
gonna be honest, lookin like Girlyman vs Horcrux on that thumbnail bruv
Third time listening to it and it’s still good! .......... ok I may have been really busy at work and didn’t have time to que up something else to listen too....... doesn’t change my previous point though.
"had turned the inquisition against Carab Cullen"
First inquisitor Rex on Vraks, now this, has working with the inquisition _ever_ turned out well for the Red Scorpions?
We play the algorithm for the sake of lore.
We seek lore for the sake of knowledge.
We gain knowledge for the sake of power.
We use power for the sake of freedom
The Astral Claws are dead.
The Red Corsairs are rising.
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@@Marinealver That is actually very cool.
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Do we get the old D&D Crusader episodes with the old gang back on the second chanal ?
Probably not for awhile. Uzalu hates Veeh also Scrump and Dev had a huge falling out.
@@NKM5896 No i meant that i want the old vod not new stuff. Thx now i noticed and edited my error.
I understand Vee was an annoying little dick but he brought fun into the storys : (
Uzalu doesn’t seem to hate Vee
I look forward to a new model gripe video
Badab! Still loving this story. Cant wait for the conclusion! Great job, Arch!
This "War for Badab" series is awesome man. You make this amazing to listen and watch..... Especially since I am Red Corsairs player😁
wait a minute, what about the impenetrable ring of steel protecting the Baddab sector. The one that was built over the course of centuries and destroyed the Cartago tax fleet. Was that nothing more than a mine field and some space stations to weak to fight anything bigger than pirates?
That was in the Badab system itself, this is just the frontier of the Badab Sector.
@@sonofjack6286 Ah that explains it. I thought it was a defense grid for all of Baddab not just one solar system. Kind of seams less impressive now:( But i guess that even with all the resource extraction zones wealth it would have been to expensive fortifying a whole sector.
Algorithm for the algorithm god, comments for the comment section!
Okay are we just gonna ignore the fact that the loyalists have a ship called “The Throne of Blood”? Sus af
Killing a dreadnought in personal combat
Every time I hear one of these I just want to go and dig up my old Battlefleet Gothic ships!!!
Dear GW, we need Battlefleet Gothic 2nd Edition
Only replace the Ordenance Phase with the Boarding Phase, and NO RANDOM LEADERSHIP Andy Chambers! (Save that for the Orks)
@@Marinealver I support this message!
One of the bigger plot holes thus far has to be that somehow the people of baddab and the tyrants legion. Didn't know they were fighting the imperium.
Honestly I question if they would even need to hide it most of all. I mean the imperium is literally fighting a war of extermination.
However in this case I think this is just something I will ignore in my own personal headcannon as I honestly feel it's pretty... unnecessary. I mean honestly I would expect the people of baddab to be loyal to the warders. After all it was them (not the imperium) who delivered them from. The endless strife and destruction of the maelstrom extraction grids worst, and it was for centuries they defended them. No matter the foe. You would likely stand with those protectors. Even aginst the expansive but distant and uncaring imperium.
So who won?
In a battle between brothers, there is never a winner, anything decisive only makes two losers.
Yes Master! I understand!
The traitors of the tyrant are no brothers of the Emperor's sons.
And all this because of inquisitional spite...
suddenly cato sicarius appears
Slits throat of the sacrifice comment.
Blood for the algorithm gods.
Comments for the comment throne
The Birth of the Red Corsairs
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Arch, I like way you emphasize point blank. Awesome video sir, thank you for sharing your work.
And it all started because some drunk Orks raided Badab
NGL this series is the highlight of my week
Glory to the Emperors mighty golden ABS!!!
And also Arch!
Saturday is the worst day of the week because it's the furthest away from a new War For Badab video.
Despite everything they did, never forget that the Astral Claws sank as low as they did because of the negligence and stupidity of the Imperium. The War for Badab is all the Inquisition's fault.
Huron: You may be at my Door, but Cullin...listen. Do you hear that?
Cullin: Hear what?
Huron: Exactly, Cullin, you're not the predators...you're my prey.
Tyrants legion mvp in this conflict
The true definition of a pyrrhic victory for Huron.
Ok, I know this is a late time to ask this but, has this series put the Mantis-Warriors in any one else's top five Chapter list?
like seriously every time thy show up, thy just mop the floor with everyone. And I'm always a fan of people who put the fire-hawks in their place.
not mine, but only because i tend to not count... but i LOVED how they handled the fire hawks.
So he's saying, if I'm going to condemned, let's give them a good reason! | 7:08 - Red Shirts do their part, regardless of what side they're on. | 9:00 - Good intentions? The road to hell is paved with quite a few of those. | 10:03 - So a little worse than within the Loyalist systems?...Except perhaps the Salamanders, of course. | 12:50 - Red? They'll go faster! | 15:40 - The Executioners would've been good to have in that. | So some sons of Rogal Dorn and some possible Loyalist Word Bearers are sent to bring destruction. | 25:15 - As in "Over here! Hope you're ready for us, heretic scum!" | Helmuth von Moltke the Elder was right...
The way this series was described I was expecting there to be more back and forth with the imperium winning some and then the warders winning others, so far it has been all warders victories followed by all imperial victories with this being the closest thing to a warders victory for a while yet still not a victory.
KHORNE: I WILL WATCH THIS MAN CAREER WITH GREAT INTEREST
The tyrant is now irredeemable
For Arch, The Emperor and the algorythm
I wonder, will Arch put things mildly, or rather bluntly?
Oh hell yeah! I had a shitty day at work and come home to this. Gonna be a good day, boys
1:20 Aé c@ralho! Finalmente, que notícia maravilhosa.
Nothing's better than a good lore video after a long week of work!
DAMN this was a good one Arch! You seriously should be working for the History Channel or the Discovery Channel as one of their narrators! You've got a damn good talent for speech and your attention to detail is superb!
Till next time we hear from ya
And thus The Red Corsairs were born
The Tyrant's Legion getting offed by their own peeps is the true climax of the tragedy. Poor boys.
Lufgt Huron: Call an ambulance, but not for me!
Yep... this was good... I saw Seige of Vraks twice... I'll be starting back over here soon with this one... it seems...
Im at 14 minutes in, im getting increasingly blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne vibes!
(Edit) Damn that was a brilliant episode, best one yet!
@Arch Can you at least hint at season and episode of the art menioned around and after 3:15 minute mark ? :)
Wating for the Exorcists to go over to Slaanesh...The Sexorcists.
This friday just became perfect
Don't think i didn't notice that divinity 2 bracchus reference!