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  • @pluribus_unum
    @pluribus_unum 6 месяцев назад +3279

    Divide is conquered!

  • @MisterBrickalew
    @MisterBrickalew 6 месяцев назад +4286

    Rossero, after years of frustration, is finally vindicated.

    • @maxwell_edison
      @maxwell_edison 6 месяцев назад +81

      goated patience

    • @vedranlucev1837
      @vedranlucev1837 6 месяцев назад +294

      Rossero will end up designing the entire marble machine, Martin just has to assemble it.

    • @LanceThumping
      @LanceThumping 6 месяцев назад +70

      It could be worse, there are some channels that will ask for feedback then ignore it and never come back to listen to suggestions for improvement.

    • @Real28
      @Real28 6 месяцев назад +62

      That is absolutely on brand that it was already presented and reviewed 3 years ago 🤣🤣🤣

    • @cocon16_PW
      @cocon16_PW 6 месяцев назад +53

      @@Real28 and so completely misunderstood. It even had "height regulator" in the title 😂

  • @user-zx3zm7bd5i
    @user-zx3zm7bd5i 6 месяцев назад +144

    I remember watching the original review of Rosseros design and thinking "This solves all of Martins problems!"... And then Martin goes on to ignore it for 3 years xD

  • @cavedog1279
    @cavedog1279 5 месяцев назад +46

    With 3D printing, there is no rule that says the divider must remain in 2D. In theory, you could take the tracks and arrange them in a rotary layout and achieve the same result. This would be even more compact, especially if the 'steps' were all oriented in the same direction.

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 6 месяцев назад +634

    Keep in mind, this height balancer works from ANY divider input. You can still have cool looking aesthetical dividers backing the functional ones.

    • @caloster7664
      @caloster7664 6 месяцев назад +60

      Just as long as the cool looking ones still don't get clogged right

    • @jameshogge
      @jameshogge 6 месяцев назад +55

      This. A significant advantage of the old divider is how compact it was. For a large number of channels, a tree of y-splits will get quite large.
      Taking this levelling mechanism on its own removes the "height insensitivity" requirement and allows for an even better divider to be made

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 6 месяцев назад +1

      yea it should work with something similar to the old with the height wiggely cool fixer

    • @cymno
      @cymno 6 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@jameshogge You don't need a tree. The height sensitivity is gone, so you can use the MMX ramp design. It will be twice as wide because each track has a width of two marbles instead of one, but otherwise the same. Could probably make the whole divider in one machined / printed part, or have small identical pieces for every track.

    • @Bumi-90
      @Bumi-90 6 месяцев назад +13

      @@jameshogge The less compact nature of the new divider is lkess of a problem, because it is no longer important that it looks good, so you don't have the limited front space but can hide away bigger parts of the divider.
      But that is also one point i don't like about the new criteria, I will still like the videos, but I don't think I have any interest in watching a perfect instument that does not look cool playing perfect musik. And even the example with starship, Form does not always follow function. For example the nosecone is only this pointy, because elon wants it to look more like a cool Rocket, and it is not significantly worse, but just a bit.

  • @generessler6282
    @generessler6282 6 месяцев назад +503

    Great! In software, which is my field, there is a 30-year old aphorism uttered by a past engineer: "It will take about a week to get it working, and another month to make it simple." The idea is that solving a problem in the simplest possible way is both difficult and the best way to go. ...which is SOOO true. Congrats on growing as an engineer.

    • @cunt5000
      @cunt5000 6 месяцев назад +5

      oof this rings so true

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 6 месяцев назад +12

      Paring something down to it's bare essentials and keeping the functionality is what separates a great engineer from a good one. It's great when you see something and it's just perfectly refined into something as simple as it could be, but still works perfectly.

    • @banaana1234
      @banaana1234 6 месяцев назад +2

      Definitely tracks in mechanical engineering also, prototypes are usually not too difficult to make, but making something reliable and simple takes time.

    • @thomasbecker9676
      @thomasbecker9676 6 месяцев назад +2

      He's *not* an engineer.

    • @OverloadOfRed
      @OverloadOfRed 6 месяцев назад +5

      This is so true. I whipped up a prototype of a new application in 3 weeks by myself. Took almost 8 months to finalize the product with a team of 4 to finish it for customer deployment.

  • @nicholasgallanis7539
    @nicholasgallanis7539 6 месяцев назад +37

    Rossero deserves a V.I.P. backstage all access pass for them & a gust when your tour hits Rossero's town/city!

  • @TomaszKalusMusic
    @TomaszKalusMusic 6 месяцев назад +87

    Dude, I've managed to finish two schools, spend two years in the university, change the major to another one and pass two semesters since the OG marble machine video was released, and the final marble machine is still not finished lol
    Gotta respect the dedication to continue this project for such a long time

    • @4Pssf2w
      @4Pssf2w 6 месяцев назад +8

      There is a perverse incentive NOT to finish it, considering what the content of his channel is. That said, I believe he's genuinely trying his best with it. He's got to juggle a RUclips career at the same time! Multi-talented!!!

    • @Cent51
      @Cent51 4 месяца назад +1

      He to much in his head with it..

  • @raubana
    @raubana 6 месяцев назад +77

    Finally, Factorio gets acknowledged! I've been waiting for this forever! Makes me so happy.

  • @dr.robertnick9599
    @dr.robertnick9599 6 месяцев назад +212

    You can put a clear cover on the divider, make it vertical and it will look cool, like the old marble divider

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk 6 месяцев назад +30

      With the "stepped" zig zag paths it arguable would probably look even cooler.

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins 6 месяцев назад +7

      Honestly, just the fact that marbles are moving through it makes it hard to not look at least a little cool.

  • @DPush420
    @DPush420 6 месяцев назад +231

    Elon's step one was always "Hire someone better to do it" Good job Rossero.

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 6 месяцев назад +13

      Only if Elon would listen to the these people.

    • @CottidaeSEA
      @CottidaeSEA 5 месяцев назад +4

      It's a good idea to be honest. I consider myself a decently smart guy and I know a lot about my field of work. However, there'll always be someone who has specialized their domain knowledge further than I have. Elon Musk is a businessman before he is an engineer, he understands things, but he can't necessarily make the things himself.

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@CottidaeSEA What do you think he understands? He makes very elementary mistakes on every field he is in bussiness and lies about what the product is capable of.

    • @CottidaeSEA
      @CottidaeSEA 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@RanEncounter You never make mistakes?

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@CottidaeSEA Who said I didn't? Can you actually not read at all? Do you think making mistakes is the same thing as making very elementary mistakes? I could understand him doing little mistakes here and there, but to make very elementary mistakes that literally undermine the whole bussiness is not a little mistake. He has done this over and over again.
      Also you did not address the lying part at all. He literally lies about most of his products to the point of fraud.
      You failed to answer the original question. So again what do you think he understands? What bussiness do you think he has a good understanding in?

  • @D3nn1s
    @D3nn1s 6 месяцев назад +843

    "The starship is 100% form from function"
    Elon: "We made the tip pointy because it looks cool"

    • @barrygillis
      @barrygillis 6 месяцев назад +238

      Anyone using musk as having great ideas is such a turnoff. I feel spacex is doing fairly well despite the guy.

    • @D3nn1s
      @D3nn1s 6 месяцев назад +22

      @@barrygillis tbf he had some bright moment and many that werent as bright

    • @Wolfboy607
      @Wolfboy607 6 месяцев назад +61

      "The missle is too round on the top! It needs to be pointy! Round isn't scary, pointy is scary!" Aladeen was not supposed to be the inspirational character in that story, but really what can you expect from people who self identify as Atlas Shrugged characters.

    • @TheThirdPrice
      @TheThirdPrice 6 месяцев назад +72

      @@D3nn1s the engineers he pays have great moments

    • @kennetha6594
      @kennetha6594 6 месяцев назад +10

      "Despite the guy." May I ask what company you started or run?@@barrygillis

  • @tacoman10
    @tacoman10 6 месяцев назад +181

    Wow. And when you put several of the zig zags next to each other they form hexagons. It's almost as if hexagons are the best-agons.😊

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 месяцев назад +11

      Beehives are like marble machines, but with honey. Somehow.

    • @321findus
      @321findus 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@AdelaeR Sweet analogy, hon.
      (I'll show myself out)

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@321findus ROFL :-D

    • @jonathanmvkhai
      @jonathanmvkhai 6 месяцев назад +2

      CGP Gray!

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 6 месяцев назад

      Happy Saturnalia

  • @A_Casual_NPC
    @A_Casual_NPC 6 месяцев назад +232

    Holy damn, that's such a tidy and elegant solution, not just solving the problem. I love it

  • @pacotesan
    @pacotesan 6 месяцев назад +54

    I loled at using Elon "make your requirements less dumb" as an example since the cybertruck fiasco :D

    • @Cara.314
      @Cara.314 4 месяца назад

      crewed starship missions to mars by 2024, hyperloop maglev trains in near vaccume going 750 mph, cybertruck by 2022 for $40k, tesla FSD(level 4) without useful tech like lidar by 2018, so on, so forth.
      "If things go according to plan, we should be able to launch people probably in 2024 with arrival in 2025"
      "Fast forward to August 2013 when Musk unveils his concept, claiming that for just $6 billion he could build a hyperloop between LA and San Francisco that could cover the distance in about 32 minutes at about 750 mph."

    • @KingHalbatorix
      @KingHalbatorix 4 месяца назад

      What fiasco?

    • @budbin
      @budbin Месяц назад

      2 million preorders suggest it’s not exactly a fiasco

  • @NordicSpartan
    @NordicSpartan 6 месяцев назад +552

    Ironically, Elon also made the Starship more pointy than ideal because he thought it would look cooler than a rounded nose.

    • @pd28cat
      @pd28cat 6 месяцев назад +44

      He watched General Aladeen too much

    • @Wolfboy607
      @Wolfboy607 6 месяцев назад +60

      @@pd28cat The missle is too round on the top! It needs to be pointy! Round isn't scary... Pointy is scary!
      Why is the starship scary again?

    • @broccolidiego2053
      @broccolidiego2053 6 месяцев назад +10

      The different in performance between round and pointy nose cone is minimal so either would have been fine. The problem only arise when the design is actively creating problem that shouldn't be there in the first place.

    • @Wolfboy607
      @Wolfboy607 6 месяцев назад

      Drag coefficient says hello. Sure, in space it doesn't matter, the performance difference is minimal in near vacuum. Unfortunately, in the real world, we have to lift off from the gravity well of earth, through a thick atmosphere, and are all subject ultimately to the tyranny of the rocket equation. Every kilo of fuel is 1.4 kilos of reduced payload. It really does matter when the cost is over a million per kilo. This amounts to a power move.@@broccolidiego2053

    • @skilletborne
      @skilletborne 6 месяцев назад +32

      @@broccolidiego2053 And you think fuel efficiency on a space craft isn't a major problem?
      This man wants to go to mars. That already was never going to happen, but with dumbass decisions like that, it's impossible to take that goal of his seriously

  • @TheThirdPrice
    @TheThirdPrice 6 месяцев назад +801

    If only martin listened to rossero more than musk, we might be on the world tour by now lol

    • @Schmidtelpunkt
      @Schmidtelpunkt 6 месяцев назад +155

      Yep, one would have thought that a few antisemitic Xeets later he would start to take Musk's wisdom with a grain of salt...

    • @kalinunesferreira815
      @kalinunesferreira815 6 месяцев назад

      It's sad to see Martin not only imply that Musk invented the "less dumb requirements" approach, but also not mention the hundreds if not thousands of real competent engineers that worked at SpaceX. The anti-semitic apartheid-profiting con man really sold his bs

    • @jakubgwozdz2780
      @jakubgwozdz2780 6 месяцев назад +64

      @@Schmidtelpunkt not to mention that twitter, tesla and spacex are great examples how good actually musk is in "making things happen" :>

    • @pierrotA
      @pierrotA 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@jakubgwozdz2780Twitter never was more rentable. Most people have accept the limitations, and even the troll name.
      Tesla is still the best seller of electric cars. Yes it cost a lot and most advanced functions cost even more, and yes he struggle to keep the lines, but it's still the most selled car.
      SpaceX have the only reusable rockets of the planets, and launch more rocket per years that ALL the countries in the world put together.
      Yes, his biggest projects are stupid, but he still do better that everyone else.
      Musk make sh*t and tranform it to gold, but in the expense of everyone... He is a good biznessman, but in no way an artist.

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 6 месяцев назад

      @@jakubgwozdz2780tesla and spacex: have systems in place to protect themselves from musk’s stupidities, do relatively alright; twitter: hadn’t had time to develop these systems, because it was an acquisition, so: went to xit. (Pronounce the x with an sh, of course.)
      Now, how do we design systems to protect Martin from Musk’s stupidities and/or Martin’s own fanboying?

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 6 месяцев назад +66

    Note: Elon Musk isn't actually a designer, or even an individual contributor. People he hires do all the work. Remember, he thought a water deluge system was a dumb requirement.

    • @bagodrago
      @bagodrago 6 месяцев назад +10

      Elon is literally the king of dumb design requirements.

    • @rascal3042
      @rascal3042 6 месяцев назад +11

      I cant think of a more overrated person. Doofus just regurgitates what others tell him.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 6 месяцев назад +1

      Actually he has made considerable contributions to the design and engineering of products both for SpaceX and Tesla. Especially in the area of simplifying things, which has paid dividends in both companies. He's a clever guy and studied the fields his companies are active in (and by studied I don't mean read a few "for dummies" books). But he's not infallible and he has been stubborn about some decidedly silly decisions. Like "no LIDAR, ever" in his self driving car.

    • @Dysiode
      @Dysiode 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@kaasmeester5903 actually he bought Tesla from someone else, and maybe he contributed to SpaceX in the very beginning but that's certainly not the case now. Unless you count 80 hour work weeks and forcing welders to use I injection to stay hydrated as contributing.
      Let's not forget his contribution to transportation, the hyperloop which was definitely a real idea and not a scheme to derail California's High-speed Rail plans

    • @rascal3042
      @rascal3042 6 месяцев назад

      Sure he has. @@kaasmeester5903

  • @Remmes
    @Remmes 6 месяцев назад +32

    Props for you for remembering seeing the design before and properly going back to find where and by who. Something so simple can still look cool.

  • @nayosk8899
    @nayosk8899 6 месяцев назад +32

    So cool and beautiful with this kind of organic hexagonal pattern ❤🙏
    I'd be interested in the math behind this.
    Ps: I learn a lot in design from your journey Martin, but pleeeease stop quoting Elon 😢

  • @oscarscholten2059
    @oscarscholten2059 6 месяцев назад +7

    Rossero for the F*ck'n win! This guy is so fricking smart!

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 6 месяцев назад +2

      I often wonder how much more progress could be made if Martin and Rossero collaborated more. The potential for innovation is massive!

  • @mattmexor2882
    @mattmexor2882 6 месяцев назад +266

    It seems so ingenious to me that if 4 people came up with it in such a short time I think it must be something that's already known in the engineering community. Under how similar a context I don't know, but surely it's there.

    • @nnelg8139
      @nnelg8139 6 месяцев назад +98

      Factorio belt balancers.

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 6 месяцев назад +35

      It's probably similar to designing laminar flow setups in pipes. There's a good reason smoothed out Y pipes are so common, instead of just hard angles everywhere. Things that move fast don't usually like sharp bends and large velocity changes, so a step up/down process like this tends to be what is used.

    • @ToTheGAMES
      @ToTheGAMES 6 месяцев назад +24

      @@nnelg8139 Factorio belt balancers are even more complex, because there are two sides of the belt that need individually balanced because the inserters grab mostly from one side of the belt ;P

    • @daemn42
      @daemn42 6 месяцев назад +20

      Maybe those other people also saw the video from 3 years ago and realized that it could be used to solve a different problem (regulating height instead of pressure).

    • @Mike_Rogge
      @Mike_Rogge 6 месяцев назад +20

      The presence of a calc textbook would also support that idea, in that Rossero is probably a mechanical, industrial, or mechanical systems engineer, or a student in one of those.

  • @BeniRoseMusic
    @BeniRoseMusic 6 месяцев назад +7

    I literally gasped at 3:50 when the marble stack moved a full marble position! Truly the holy grail of a reliable marble divider!

  • @mation5172
    @mation5172 6 месяцев назад +24

    I'm imagining the very last episode of MM design be like this: "We had the finished MM03 in front of us for five years! What were we doing?"
    Than, taking an angle grinder and reducing the entire thing into a Xylophone.🙆‍♂

  • @griffinhunter3206
    @griffinhunter3206 6 месяцев назад +78

    i don't think that Elon can really say anything after the cybertruck tbh, but i do love how you apply the idea of having things be less dumb.

    • @BboyKeny
      @BboyKeny 6 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe that's how Elon learned that lesson 🤔

    • @griffinhunter3206
      @griffinhunter3206 6 месяцев назад +31

      @@BboyKeny except he's still doing whatever the hell hes doing with twitter lol

    • @Iangamebr
      @Iangamebr 6 месяцев назад +1

      What do you mean?

    • @griffinhunter3206
      @griffinhunter3206 6 месяцев назад +16

      @@Iangamebr cybertrucks being made of flat panels makes any tiny dent pop out, it makes the gaps between panels huge for modern cars, and it ruins any possible areodynamics. Also, its harder to make flat panels than curved panels. The truck is just flat for aesthetics.

    • @griffinhunter3206
      @griffinhunter3206 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@cladaes9127 rockets admittedly don't, and i don't have much to say about that, just about the things his companies are doing that are really really stupid.

  • @DoodleChaos
    @DoodleChaos 6 месяцев назад +136

    Mind blown emoji doesn’t do this video justice 🤯. Seeing journey to this design, as well as the fact that it was hiding in plain sight from 3 years ago, has been an incredibly interesting and satisfying watch. Huge props to everyone that contributed! Hopefully more “holy grail” moments are to come!

    • @cinderwolf32
      @cinderwolf32 6 месяцев назад +3

      I really shouldn't feel surprised that you're into this channel. It just makes sense. But I didn't expect it.

    • @Colnup
      @Colnup 6 месяцев назад

      Oh hello

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 месяцев назад

      This story just became pretty epic.

    • @moonquake1881
      @moonquake1881 6 месяцев назад +1

      Kinda proves that there is a vast amount of knowledge in the community. But making good use of it has always been a challenge.

  • @robd1365
    @robd1365 5 месяцев назад +2

    My dear Brother loved this channel and watched every Wednesday without fail, with admiration and in awe of you and your wonderful creations. Sadly this episode was the last he would ever watch as he lost his battle with life on Monday 27th. I wish it was a Time Machine, not a marble machine as I’d be banging on the door to borrow it

  • @kodez79
    @kodez79 6 месяцев назад +17

    Just to be clear, Starship is not 100% form from function. It has a pointy nose due to Elon watching The Dictator, and following his advice there.

  • @dizzolve
    @dizzolve 6 месяцев назад +62

    10:10 Elon just needs to apply some of his theories to 'life'

    • @Junker-sq6pu
      @Junker-sq6pu 6 месяцев назад +28

      He prob stole it from someone else. Like all his great "inventions"

    • @syber-space
      @syber-space 6 месяцев назад +27

      Yeah... It's really painful as someone with friends in the trans community to see Martin happily singing the praises of a man who has caused more pain and suffering for them than nearly anyone else... I hope he finds better role models and examples in the future... His work is so much better than that.

    • @will9703
      @will9703 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@syber-spaceabloo bloo bloo.

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman 6 месяцев назад

      best life is no life

    • @tazzorn
      @tazzorn 6 месяцев назад

      You do know you can separate someone’s achievements and insight from their personal shitiness right? Like Porsche, Einstein, VW, Walt Disney? Porsche and VW were Nazi companies that helped Hitler design the original bug. Einstein’s work lead to the deaths of millions. Walt Disney was a misogynistic and racist man. All of these are glossed over. An asshole is gonna asshole. Doesnt mean the asshole doesnt have a good idea.

  • @bagodrago
    @bagodrago 6 месяцев назад +11

    Guys, no one tell Martin what Elon's been up to lately...

  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 6 месяцев назад +22

    Okay, I wasn't sure why you were so excited but that demonstration around 4:00 was incredible, great design!

  • @gordon1201
    @gordon1201 6 месяцев назад +16

    You're wrong about form from function with starship 😂 The nose cone was made pointy just because they wanted it to look cool. There's an interview with Elon where he says so

    • @dread_nought
      @dread_nought 6 месяцев назад

      You believe this guy's a fraudster yet believe that an offhanded quip he made on a podcast is genuine. Reconsider your values.

  • @slartibartfast2649
    @slartibartfast2649 6 месяцев назад +220

    Fun fact: Starship was originally designed with a rounded nose, but Elon told his engineers to make it pointy because he thought it looked cooler, even though it was slightly worse performance wise.
    So not exactly form from function.

    • @weebnonce8327
      @weebnonce8327 6 месяцев назад +21

      starship is pure future core aesthetics and a load of tripe!

    • @jacobsheffield9332
      @jacobsheffield9332 6 месяцев назад +35

      Funny seeing a clip of Elon saying your design spec is too complicated a couple weeks after he just told his cybertruck engineers to machine their panels down to one onebillionth of a micron hahaha

    • @johnwolfenden7599
      @johnwolfenden7599 6 месяцев назад +1

      That was my thought too, lol.
      But after the essentials are made and the machine works, I truly doubt martin won't be compelled to also make it look cool

    • @EightOneGulf
      @EightOneGulf 6 месяцев назад +7

      Sure you are not quoting from the movie "the Dictator"?😅

    • @SuperCuriousFox
      @SuperCuriousFox 6 месяцев назад +4

      A source for this claim would be appreciated, because I follow starship development quite closely and don’t remember any news about some original design with an even more rounded nose than the current starship design has. Or are you talking about the MCT or ITS days?

  • @StuddMuffinn_YT
    @StuddMuffinn_YT 6 месяцев назад +4

    You can use the clear vertical marble columns even with the stepped dividers. You are not limited in just left to right zigzags. You can also go forwards or backwards, allowing for the best of both worlds. A great looking marble column, and all the benefits of the zigzag patterns reliability.

  • @Haceldama777
    @Haceldama777 6 месяцев назад +13

    So awesome! Got to say I nearly had a panic attack when you were thinking about bringing back the modular tracks. I'm so happy for you that the "Holy Grail" was found. It's incredible seeing the level of expertise and enthusiasm for this project from everyone here. LETS GO MX3!

  • @nataze6127
    @nataze6127 6 месяцев назад +221

    11:05 not its not. Starship is too pointy. Rounded is slightly better. They did it because of the movie: „Dictator”, and thought it would look better

    • @Dysiode
      @Dysiode 6 месяцев назад +54

      Classic Elon Mush brain right there

    • @Turtleswan
      @Turtleswan 6 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@Dysiodeclassic r/whoosh there

    • @MetroidChild
      @MetroidChild 6 месяцев назад +6

      There are mechanical benefits to the starship being (slightly) pointy, remember the ship is bottom heavy when re-entering the atmosphere, this means the front needs to have less aero drag in order to fall horizontally, the balance is so bad without a payload they've opted to put the LOX tank at the front in order to try and balance it.

    • @syber-space
      @syber-space 6 месяцев назад +108

      Yeah... I really hope Martin finds better role models to quote... Quoting from a rich a-hole who causes active harm to minority and economically challenged groups isn't a great look, even if that individual did contribute in some ways to the creation of something cool.

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 месяцев назад

      @@syber-space Utter nonsense. Mr. Musk is doing nothing wrong and is simply being smeared by the corrupt media and their political masters because he is against suppression of speech and goes against their party line.

  • @Emariess
    @Emariess 6 месяцев назад +376

    Question: why don’t you put a small lip around every surface in your studio…? just to stop the floor marble situation.

    • @scottlife1697
      @scottlife1697 6 месяцев назад +73

      But, the meme!

    • @mikaschtroumpf
      @mikaschtroumpf 6 месяцев назад +57

      Or turn the whole studio into a marble machine.

    • @TheStarMachine2000
      @TheStarMachine2000 6 месяцев назад +50

      You ever rested your forearms on something like that? It is uniquely painful after a while, especially when you are trying to focus.

    • @RhumpleOriginal
      @RhumpleOriginal 6 месяцев назад +8

      But I like the floor marbles 😢

    • @dont-want-no-wrench
      @dont-want-no-wrench 6 месяцев назад +44

      his new lab will have a drain in the middle and parabolic slope down to it from all sides, with a recirculating elevator

  • @lightningwingdragon973
    @lightningwingdragon973 6 месяцев назад +7

    Elon has literally stated that the nose cone of the rocket is more pointy "just because".
    It's the complete opposite of form from function lol

  • @BishamonS
    @BishamonS 6 месяцев назад +9

    I love that have spent years watching this channel and seeing you go from very overly engineered things to simplified effective and efficient things. It’s been an incredible engineering journey so far.

    • @NOLAfugee
      @NOLAfugee 6 месяцев назад +3

      I'm proud of him for ending his quest to reinvent everything, like bearings. Just buy the right parts, buddy.

    • @NeonNijahn
      @NeonNijahn 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's like the journey from Architect to Engineer

    • @BishamonS
      @BishamonS 6 месяцев назад

      I agree with both of your statements! It’s a sign of true growth assuming we’ve all been here from the beginning, it’s been just awesome

  • @mebutoldernow
    @mebutoldernow 6 месяцев назад +34

    So what I learned and urge you: Please quote and listen to Rossero not Musk!

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 6 месяцев назад +35

    Something I've noticed regarding all this talk of dividers is that there's not been much on the topic of THROUGHPUT. Of course, no part is the best part in this ideal as well; having one lane for each channel is going to make for perfect throughput. However, I acknowledge your point about instrument proximity making 1:1 channel/belt ratios unlikely if not impossible. Therefore, to maintain maximum throughput, making decisions on the locations of your instruments and marble catch funnels on the final machine could take priority over the marble piping and divider logistics so that you can make only as many dividers as you need to maximize throughput and conserving material.

    • @blackest3314
      @blackest3314 6 месяцев назад

      I don't know, it seems that he would need a single split for channel, at the most (like a fast double note on a hit hat). But again, maybe two or three fast marbles from the same channels would work anyway. I don't know if having a system-wide splitting system is really needed. Separate channels offer a better solution, and at least something worth exploring.
      But ehi, maybe he already tried. Not saying it's easy to implement, but it definitely offers many pros (MODULARITY -just add a new channel when you need it, EASY FIX - if a specific channel doesn't work you don't need to fix the whole machine, NO DIVIDER).
      Dunno, I feel he just dismissed the idea without testing, because, you know, a marble machine needs a marble divider, because it has always been the case.
      Maybe I'm wrong eh.

  • @j.l.5867
    @j.l.5867 6 месяцев назад +7

    Simply a beautiful solution. Congratulations to the knights of the holy divider.

  • @ensuens
    @ensuens 6 месяцев назад +2

    multiyear watcher here:
    what i'm fearing the most is that "it must look cool" requirement will bite back, this new machine is not shaping to be cool at all.
    i mean you don't need marbles to play music, you do because marbles are cool.
    i hope this design process goes full circle and attacks the main shape of mm WHILE looking cool

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 6 месяцев назад +6

    11:02 so you say, but Elon also admitted that they made the nose pointy simply because it looks cooler lol

  • @JasonDishong
    @JasonDishong 6 месяцев назад +50

    My whole family is just waiting for the next marble machine. We still love that first one. Keep on keeping on!

    • @elizzievb
      @elizzievb 6 месяцев назад +3

      Not to be the Party Pooper but I am just waiting for Martin the Musician to take back over from Martin the Engineer…I miss Wintergatan. Going back to watch vids from the old days once again and be sad…😢

  • @shakdidagalimal
    @shakdidagalimal Месяц назад

    Well done how the video moves into collaborative examples and praise for the group participants while it then entertains.

  • @lo-firobotboy7112
    @lo-firobotboy7112 6 месяцев назад +5

    If only Martin had looked to industrial food processing machines, he would have seen similar mechanisms for separating candy and such.

  • @Mike-B-Jackson
    @Mike-B-Jackson 6 месяцев назад +6

    11:03 - not 100% true - Musk made the nose “pointy” purely because he thought that’s how it should look ;). There’s an interview about it.

  • @gernith
    @gernith 6 месяцев назад +40

    "You literally told them to make the Starship more pointy because of the movie 'The Dictator?'" a chuckling Rogan asked.
    "Yep. And they know it, too," Musk replied with a laugh. "It's not like they're unaware of it. I thought it would be funny to make it more pointy, so we did."

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 6 месяцев назад +9

      This confirms my theory that Elon has always been trying to be a dictator!

    • @ofsinope
      @ofsinope 6 месяцев назад +52

      Thank you... Musk's junk is all form over function... look at the stupid Cybertruck. Huge cringe when Martin quoted Musk as if this is a good source of engineering wisdom... 🤮

    • @Ben-uk5qt
      @Ben-uk5qt 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@ofsinopehe isn’t an engineer lmao

    • @nipzie
      @nipzie 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@ofsinope You're jealous of someone who's far more creative than you, and it shows. You have no other reason to hate him, even though he's tackling problems no one else is bothering with because it's too difficult. Get a grip...

    • @Hunangsir
      @Hunangsir 6 месяцев назад +7

      my exact thought when Martin told about form from function

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'e been watching these videos for so many years now and it always amazes me how something that looks so simple is so amazingly difficult. Very Well Done!

  • @667link5
    @667link5 6 месяцев назад

    I love the progress on this project! I admire your tenacity and passion. Remember, it's ok to rest and focus on yourself.

  • @nickgoodall578
    @nickgoodall578 6 месяцев назад +9

    Sometimes this channel is frustrating, watching Martin try to invent the bearing housing for example. But then a video like this comes along and beautifully illustrates a bunch of cool concepts. Bravo!

    • @thomasbecker9676
      @thomasbecker9676 6 месяцев назад

      Except like bearings, those concepts are also well-understood.

    • @elvishkat
      @elvishkat 6 месяцев назад +2

      Beautifully illustrates that he was given a solution years ago and forgot about it.

  • @viktormoraes9876
    @viktormoraes9876 6 месяцев назад +13

    My most beloved notification

  • @akvilio
    @akvilio 6 месяцев назад

    Martin, you are amazing! I have been watching all your videos since day 1 and I have seen the way you made and still making and I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything. You inspired me to continue my fight for a degree in neurobiology to study Alzheimer’s disease and maybe help to find the cure. My grandfather passed away in January this year of it. So thank you again and please don’t give up, we all here for you and with you till the victorious end. Much love ❤

  • @DKrog
    @DKrog 6 месяцев назад +5

    This is honestly so incredibly ingenious and simple. I love it.

  • @DaftFader
    @DaftFader 6 месяцев назад +18

    I'm glad you're getting better and better at using the hive mind to advance the MM! :)

  • @scaredyfish
    @scaredyfish 6 месяцев назад +4

    So happy for this outcome, and also for this process - calling for solutions to a specific problem has focused the feedback you're getting into something you can use. I hope you use this more going forward.

  • @mentaman
    @mentaman 2 месяца назад

    Love this video, combining music, design, and science. Keep them coming!

  • @iamgrays
    @iamgrays 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing stuff! What community and what a wonderfully elegant solution. Congratulations to all those that suggested it.

  • @AnthonyFammartino
    @AnthonyFammartino 6 месяцев назад +14

    "Perfection every time" and a beautiful design! Congrats!

  • @shandoo981
    @shandoo981 6 месяцев назад +3

    Genius! This is so amazing! I'm soo glad you continued your work and even more that the community is fully included again! ❤ Guys are PURE GOLD! 💪🏻❤️

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome work finding the perfect marble divider! It's great how the simple design came from your fans. Can't wait to see it in action on your next machine! Keep it up!

  • @anthonygriffin6868
    @anthonygriffin6868 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is a HUGE lesson. Ask the right question and remove dumb requirements.

  • @DenKonZenith
    @DenKonZenith 6 месяцев назад +29

    In theory, could do the zig-zag in full 3D too, if you needed a flatter vertical path.

  • @Tekay37
    @Tekay37 6 месяцев назад +42

    Only downside of this design is that it's not going to be very silent, because the marbles aren't moving smoothly along the track. You'll have to find a way to isolate the noise.

    • @Square1production
      @Square1production 6 месяцев назад +15

      The noise of the marbles moving is the point, isn't it? Otherwise you could just build a giant multi instrument music box.

    • @JaharNarishma
      @JaharNarishma 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@Square1production Martin has stated several times that the noise from the tracks, the divider etc. is unwanted. Therefore Martin has used silicone along with other material in order to reduce noise.

    • @Tristan-mc4wm
      @Tristan-mc4wm 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Square1production He has mentioned multiple times that he would like the marbles to move and be caught silently, It's also one of his "nice to have" design requirements. The point of using marbles it's the visuals and the design challenge. not the noise they make,
      The noise making part is left to the instruments.

    • @MarkkuS
      @MarkkuS 6 месяцев назад

      Its weird he hates the sound, since I feel like most of his original viewers are here because of the marble machine song. And the machine noise is an instrument of its own.

    • @wtrbns
      @wtrbns 6 месяцев назад +2

      Probably we don't get an accurate view of how loud all those channels combined are compared to the instruments

  • @fristle1
    @fristle1 5 месяцев назад +1

    FFF is rather _form _*_follows_*_ function_ than _form from function_. At least during the past 150 years of design history. I'd love to see @Wintergatan to stick to this and continue it in Marble Machine 3.

  • @rollingballdave
    @rollingballdave 5 месяцев назад +2

    Congratulations!!! I love the design!!

  • @eternalprogression
    @eternalprogression 6 месяцев назад +12

    This is by far the coolest Channel and community to ever be. The way we are all watching and working towards this one beautiful goal is amazing. And the idea of being able to come see it when you are on tour is so amazing. There is just no way that I would miss it. After all the years of watching you build this thing, we all have an obligation to go and make sure you sell out!!! Good luck Martin and I know I will see you on tour one day soon!!

  • @InventorZahran
    @InventorZahran 6 месяцев назад +7

    Not every idea from the MMX era was bad! Sometimes the best solution is one that has already been suggested but ignored.

    • @umchoyka
      @umchoyka 6 месяцев назад +7

      Most of the best solutions were ignored...

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@umchoyka I mean, he *is* a fan of Elon after all, so that's not a surprise... :P

    • @muharremsuz
      @muharremsuz 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@LordDragox412sadly. I cant believe how

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@muharremsuz *MARBLE LOOP*

  • @Gomisan
    @Gomisan 6 месяцев назад

    I'm really enjoying the return of this style of video, glad you're back at it!

  • @JooseNerd
    @JooseNerd 6 месяцев назад

    I want to say, as someone constantly looking for videos with an awesome element of science enquiry & genuinely brilliant, awesome, entertaining & meaningingful content, this video, along with all of your videos (which is why I'm a longstanding viewer) was amazing.
    Specifically when you acknowledged the submissions that went 'The best solution is no problem.'
    There was such a genuine, heartfelt understanding and compassion in your responding to them, and this is definitely something that I would try to find messages in to show students in classrooms, on-par with my growing playlist of 'Learning from Failure'.

  • @75viking75
    @75viking75 6 месяцев назад +10

    As a watcher of the channel since the old wooden machine, I love that you've given this concept one last chance! I'll be coming to see you on that world tour!! You can't forget California! So I'll see you there! Much love!

  • @user-yw9mw9hv8o
    @user-yw9mw9hv8o 6 месяцев назад +7

    I agree star ship is perfected form from function for a low earth orbit debris field launcher!!! ;)
    But that marble divider is delicious.

  • @soramtipu3928
    @soramtipu3928 6 месяцев назад +8

    Awesome work 👍 congratulations 🎉 keep it up 💯

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints 6 месяцев назад

    These are totally amazing solutions to these tricky problems. Really amazing stuff!

  • @coolguyselwyn2000
    @coolguyselwyn2000 6 месяцев назад +1

    i cannot WAIT for the tour... every time we get another step closer i get more and more excited

  • @higolon
    @higolon 6 месяцев назад +51

    Elon Musk talking about less dumb design is peak comedy xD

    • @georgesos
      @georgesos 6 месяцев назад +7

      It seems our host here likes the snake oil salesman....

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 6 месяцев назад +4

    Elon apparently didn't listen to himself when he made the cyber truck. XD

  • @ppkus
    @ppkus 6 месяцев назад +1

    SWEET!!!! can't wait for a new machine to be up and running!!! Talent you have to make any song amazing, now that this problem is solved im also excited for the new wonders you will come up with!

  • @kylemossi
    @kylemossi 6 месяцев назад

    I applaud you Martin! We all watched you struggle to make this one work and you finally NAILED it man. GREAT JOB You are an inspiration.

  • @gabrielleirbag9290
    @gabrielleirbag9290 6 месяцев назад +13

    Hi! We can see the little bounce at the divider position when it's empty of marbles, is there any risk of that hapening at high bpm, preventing free flow? and propagate upward... Btw, hexagon is the BESTAGON!

  • @Dysonsphere42
    @Dysonsphere42 6 месяцев назад +4

    That's genius! this is why this community is so great! exited to see this whole project come to life again!!

  • @tobiasribisch712
    @tobiasribisch712 6 месяцев назад

    hey martin, I've been following your journey from the start of marble machine x, and i realized that I'm learning so much interesting stuff just by watching you, so thank you!! seeing you this happy puts a smile on my face

  • @lolka359
    @lolka359 6 месяцев назад

    OMG! This is so important, and finaly it is hereee!
    I always love Your videos and music.
    Just i'm SO exited for this..

  • @kiloftd
    @kiloftd 6 месяцев назад +5

    we do not stan elon in this house

  • @user-mu2ze3xi1y
    @user-mu2ze3xi1y 6 месяцев назад +3

    The starship is not 100% form from function. Elon is on record saying he asked for it to be more pointy specifically to look less phallic. They would gain a fraction of a percentage point more payload to orbit if they went for a more blunt body design, lol.

  • @Pit_stains
    @Pit_stains 5 месяцев назад

    I love videos like this. Show a problem, and explain how you overcome the problem.

  • @danieldonaldson8634
    @danieldonaldson8634 6 месяцев назад

    Given that we've just spent 40 years of industrial design and architectural thinkng, along with furniture design, product design and god knows what else that rejected the basic Modernist Form Follows Function credo, congratulations on rediscovering what designers knew a century ago. I'm serious: it is not easy to overcome the underlying fashions of your time, and the marble machine seems like the place where all the inefficiencies of style over function accumulate and conspire to undermine the function. But the function is clear: it has to play music, and it's a great new/old way to do so, like an old Calliope, but with modern tech. Good work, great post

  • @tedioustotoro4885
    @tedioustotoro4885 6 месяцев назад +21

    Step one of Elon Musk’s design process is “be less dumb”? Damn, Elon Musk needs to listen to that. I mean, a SpaceX rocket blew up a few months ago because he suggested removing air vents from the launch platform.

    • @Alex_Vir
      @Alex_Vir 6 месяцев назад +5

      Don't forget one blew up this month too, because it sucks.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 5 месяцев назад

      I've been fighting a decades-long war to make my designs less dumb. My brain just insists on things, even against my own reasoning. I've seen other coders with the same problem. I think I'm finally starting to win.

  • @Suro_One
    @Suro_One 6 месяцев назад +5

    Awesome ❤

  • @therevoman
    @therevoman 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is so fun to watch. Both engineering and music are tightly coupled with Math and are beautiful when they come together!

  • @NicHills
    @NicHills 6 месяцев назад +1

    Loved this - solving a problem is only half a job, refining and simplifying is the real work :)

  • @MaMastoast
    @MaMastoast 6 месяцев назад +3

    Happy that you found a solution that works... But I do think the "looks cool" requirement was indeed an important part of why people thought the marble machine was fascinating to begin with.
    The Elon Musk stuff is also pretty questionable. He isnt exactly the patron saint of good ideas.

  • @wolfschwarzmond
    @wolfschwarzmond 6 месяцев назад +9

    Martin I really worry that in your quest to build the perfect marble machine, you've forgotten that its primary purpose to make music. The machine only needs to work for a tour. Then like any machine you can take it back into the shop, perform maintenance and refit it for the next tour.

    • @danielcardwell5457
      @danielcardwell5457 5 месяцев назад

      Would you play a tour with a guitar that breaks 3 strings mid way in every 3 hour gig and not be able to repair it in time

  • @tursilion
    @tursilion 6 месяцев назад +2

    That was great, and so many clever designs!

  • @Ben_R4mZ
    @Ben_R4mZ 6 месяцев назад +1

    this reminds me a lot of belt balancers in Factorio.
    The way spitters work reminds me of the way this design splits the marbles evenly to each lane allowing each one to pull evenly from the source.

    • @GrifMoNeY
      @GrifMoNeY 6 месяцев назад +1

      It was really funny that 10 people sent in Factorio gifs. I've played it several hundred hours but I don't really know how you would translate belt balancer behavior to a physical marble divider!

  • @MikeMcCaffrey
    @MikeMcCaffrey 6 месяцев назад +4

    "The starship is 100% form from function" would be a lot more believable if Elon wasn't on record saying that he told the engineers to make the tip more pointy because he watched The Dictator where they made their rocket pointy because "round is not scary".

  • @Svelix
    @Svelix 6 месяцев назад +10

    Regarding Design of the starship as inspiration: You know the tip of the starship is more pointy as optimal because of the movie "the dictator"?

  • @bruhh9040
    @bruhh9040 6 месяцев назад

    This is the first time I've seen your video,
    and I'm amazed by this community,
    it's really great and educate each other

  • @jimbobjoe
    @jimbobjoe 6 месяцев назад

    That might be the coolest thing you have graced us with. Outstanding work to you and your community!