I helped an old friend of the family remove a stuck disc from a dvd player. I did it through brute force though as he was chucking the player due to water damage. The disc was backdoor babes 5. Awkward moment never to be mentioned outside the anonymity of the internet.
@Mark Rice, The prize is the knowledge you had me rolling on the floor. With what is going in the world right now, a good chuckle is most welcome 🙂 As for a sequel to the aforementioned movie, don't look to me. 😄 Think those are on other types of video sharing sites - not that I would know.
"oh no it's chill man i don't care at all about it, it's all junk just throw it away...." "nah bro i know i can do this i kind of just want to figure it out, and you'll get your disk back........ got it! oh..."
I love that desoldering tool! For the record, I have been finding that most overseas manufacturers are using capacitors with voltage ratings right on the line. In nearly every instance, products that have failed me were easily repaired by replacing the caps and doing so with the next higher voltage rating available. The two most expensive items I have repaired were so very cheap to fix. First was the first flat screen TV I ever had that was a plasma TV. Absolutely wonderful image and it started to not want to turn on. Finally, I hear *POP* one day and smell the unmistakable odor of a capacitor gone bad. The TV was dead. Now, as an aside, I used to hear ALL THE TIME about plasma TV failures and how they would go into dumpsters. I opened mine up (about two thousand screws later) and looked at the power board and saw a few bulged caps and one clearly burst. Now, here's the STUPID part. Though they had caps rated exactly for the voltage of the board, the board was drawn to accept LARGER ones. "This is TOO easy!" I said to myself. Yes, it was that easy. I didn't just replace the bad ones; I replaced ALL of them for about $12. That was over two decades ago, and that Plasma set still works like new!!! Like I said, how many plasmas were trashed for a $12 fix!?!? The second item was the control board for our $1 Jacuzzi (yes, $1 from a friend that moved and couldn't take it (6 people too!). That board was a little less obvious. I found the testing procedures on-line and did everything as stated. I then found a very nice repair service in AZ that worked on them and sent the fellow an e-mail and outlines all my tests. He actually CALLED me on the phone saying that he was impressed seeing somebody else who knew about everything to make the repair. He said, "you won't believe what the problem is." I answered, "The capacitors, right?" Yup, same thing and here again, I fit the next higher voltage rating caps on the board and called it good. That board never failed again, and it only cost me $8 for those (the repair guy normally got $200 if he did it, but he didn't ask for a dime just to confirm what I already knew). So, are the manufacturers purposely cutting it too close with the caps knowing they will fail so you buy a new item? Somehow, I think so.
For 12v power supply they put 16v caps. When the voltage peaks, it goes 16 volt or higher. Thats how any equipment fails. A thumb rule to be followed is using just double rating cap than the intended voltage. Likewise for 15 to 18v, go for 35-40v cap. For 24v go for 50v rating.
@@dicko-200 - I worked in an electronics store and did moderate repairs. We were VERY fair on what we charged. I could tell stories about the big "pro" repair shops that fell flat on their faces! Worst case ever... A CB radio that was brought in and not working at all. Sent to pro shop #1 and came back after 4 months with: "Cannot find problem, Unit not worth repair." Sent it to pro shop #2, SAME THING. Sat in the back of our shop waiting for the owner to come get it but after four months he hadn't. One slow day, I said "Oh, what the heck, let me see if I can fix it." I took the back off, examined it for about 1 minute with a magnifying glass and grabbed the cordless soldering iron to touch up just ONE bad solder joint. Worked perfectly! $10 repair and the customer was ecstatic!! Why didn't I just fix it there in the first place? Pro shop #1 (that owned our store) had complained we were not sending enough repairs their way. We sent it to shop #2 because we THOUGHT #1 at least TRIED to fix it, so it must have been beyond our talents. We were wrong!! The pros don't know it all.
Hi ! Certainly one of the best video I saw about electrolytic capacitors, defect, repair and analysis of why and still understandable by the common man! Congratulations and thanks!
I always like to remind and / or teach people before touching a circuit board to confirm that the capacitors are drained first, and if not, to drain them first. Also, I love that disordering tool!! Thank you for this video!!!
I have found SO many failed electrolytic caps in all the repairs that I have done over many years that I replace them with a higher voltage cap, and I have never had one come back for any related problem. Thanks for sharing the video.
Thanks for the explanations and demonstrations. I really appreciate people like you sharing knowledge & skills, esp'y. when you're concise & efficient with the task at hand. So many ppl spend too much video time pointing out the obviously UNrelated components &/or features. "We're going to check the power supply because the red standby light doesn't come on....or is it blue? Let's seeeee........" Um no thanks, I'm troubleshooting my DVR's power, not LED colors. Move it!
So typical in power supplies. The capacitors are failing due to the poor selection of the capacitors in the design of the power supply. There is a spec called "ripple current", and most engineers aren't even aware enough to check that spec when selecting caps. It's easy to exceed the ripple current rating, then the caps overheat inside, drying out the electrolyte. This design even paralleled 2 caps, and it still wasn't enough! I learned about this back in the mid 90's, and have spent quite a bit of my career fixing power supplies with this issue. The spikes you're seeing are the inductance in the test leads you're using. At a 100Khz square wave, there's no way to get rid of them, and even a new capacitor will fail to filter them out. Some designs parallel smaller value capacitors with the larger ones, but this isn't necessary in this application. Excellent video, and I like your method of testing in-circuit.
Thanks for calling out the parasitic inductance as the source of the transition spikes. I was hunting through the comments to see if anyone else identified it before writing!
I bought a job lot of used Dell computers from a school a few years back, and in this bundle was a brand new one that worked for a minute and failed. Needless to say i was intrigued, so the first port of call was to open up the faulty one. Lo and behold half of the electrolytics were installed the wrong way round, a quick replacement af roughly half a dozen caps and all is well again. So even the big boys make mistakes.
I always recommend taking a quick photo of all components prior to removal. Observe the polarity of polarized components prior to removal. I have encountered several occasions (especially with Marantz) where board markings are incorrect (factory quality errors). Always replace components with the polarity used from the factory. Do NOT rely on PCB markings to be accurate.
When caps fail and get bulged i replace them with a bit higher voltage rated ones, in that case if they are 16v I put 25v if the size allows me. I use to test caps with an analog multimeter but after all this years i found the best method is replace "all" old caps for new ones especially on the hot locations on the device and the power supply.
Very interesting and informative as always !! My pool pump was having more and more difficulty starting last summer and as you said, it finally would not start at all...Main suspect was the big capacitor ...Changed it, and bingo....Starts like new. But now with your video, I will be more confident to try it with household electronics ! Thank you M.Salt .
Thank you for the Video. Do I need to worry about the Ripple Current rating of the new capacitor? Some people are very serious about them and some don't even bother thinking about them.
Completely depends on the circuit and application. If the circuit in question has the potential to produce lots of ripple in operation and the design specifications calls for little, then of course you want a cap that is of the required rating to absorb it. If it's a non critical/low current application however (such as this item), then it's moot.
No for three primary reasons: 1. Circuit is self discharging. 2. They were faulty caps and didn't hold a charge. 3. The voltage is low (under 16V) and not a risk factor regardless.
Not on little low voltage caps like these ones - they hold very little energy. I personally start concerning myself with discharging high capacity caps once they are over several hundred volts.
Yep, JCCON do go bad, have replaced them on motherboards. It seems the ones that go bad are the ones that are the smallest size for a given spec. If using sketchy caps, I'd go up in voltage if room permits.
Hi john. I would like you to do some video clips on how to repair an adapter charger (12, 24, ..) volts and also advise the common faults/damages on the adapter chargers. There are a variety of adapter chargers such remote control toys, scooters, etc.. batteries chargers. Just simply pick any of them as examples. Thanks
Nice informative video. Learned this simple trick. 👍 Please some time make a video of how to identify a bad SMD capacitor in a mother board. Thise are pretty small and no markings on it.
My 2009 LENOVO M58p desktop computer was now giving me the boot loop run around. The cause turned out to be due to there being 1 defective capacitor in the PSU. However, 5 other caps also had the bulge as well. Overall, I replaced 7 capacitors. Now all is well again. Total cost was $9.55. That is a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a new PSU. Same goes for my 2010 SAMSUNG TV. Just 1 capacitor had to be replaced, which I removed from some old junk that I had floating around, and so it cost me nothing at all. And so both are still working to this day.
Isn't an old unused capacitor prone to dry out, or they dry out only from overheating? I'm trying to understand if it would have been better to buy a fresh one.
@@miguelescutia5556 The TV was pretty old, and the cap had been used very little way back when. Thus it was mostly exposed to mere room heat over the many years. Meanwhile I have replaced electrolytic capacitors in my 1976 Heathkit AA-1506 Audio amplifier. The non-polarized electrolytic caps were in the worst condition and thus had caused nasty voltage offsets. Plus I replaced electrolytic capacitors in my 1978 Soundcraftsmen PE-2217 Equalizer/Pre-Amp. Both are still working up to this day.
Built an ESR meter when I was a young tech in training. They are worth having and provide a reliable indication of a bad capacitor in circuit too. But your method of the function generator and CRO works well. Guess they aren't CRO's anymore having digital screens. Fun fact, the first digital oscilloscope I ever used was worth $80000, how times have changed.
That's insane! I was blown away at what Tektronix was getting for the analog scopes like the 2445 when they were brand new. No wonder the average hobbyist had to settle for a tiny little 15MHz with bare minimum features to be functional and still paid a pretty good price for those even.... but the Teks were definitely fetching top dollar for those days. 80s prices are still more than I'd want to spend nowadays, nevermind if inflation since then and such were factored in. I was lucky enough to have found a used 2445 in mint condition with fairly low hours on it compared to a lot I've seen. They actually track how many times they've been powered on and booted up too which I find I testing to look at. Seems most labs turn them on and leave them on none stop only shutting them down on weekends or holidays is what I find evidence of most times. Funny, I bought an old scope to work on my electronics and actually found working on old tek scopes can be pretty fun and challenging too. Love the old tektronix test gear.
In this case it is clearly seen that the capacitors are perforated. I really liked the desoldering gun, I had not seen it before. Could you tell me if it is possible to buy it somewhere? Thank you.
I don't recall, just searched though my odds & ends cap bin and found a few that had the same ratings. If you have to order them anyway, usually best to get them from a good supplier such as digi-key, mouser, online components, etc. These places generally don't sell crap or reject caps that you might sometimes run across on ebay & amazon.
Yep, provided of course they are the same values. Best to test them first to make sure they are not faulty because as stated, not all bad caps will show physical damage.
Hey interesting stuff 👍 Do you have anything on how to check spike absorbers with multi meter. I am wanting to check a couple of Fettec spike absorbers
Hi My 25 yr old car radio stopped powering up. I changed the two 2200uF capacitors in the power supply and it didn’t help. Could it be the other capacitors on the power supply board? Thanks!
Wait, i was thinking that you can place both more Voltage and more capacity in microfarads? Like you can safely put 25v 3300uf instead of old 16v 2200uf. Am i wrong?
I don't know enough about audio equipment applications to give you a definitive answer, but the general rule is you can always increase the voltage rating of an electrolytic cap provided there is enough room to fit. Most of the comments support that as well.
I've seen it almost black, brown, yellow and cream. No idea if the color changes from time, usage, heat, application or the specific electrolyte used by a given manufacturer?
The MESR-100 V2 is awesome. You can also test the resistance or microhenries of the inductors with the esr meter. The reactance formula is 2𝛑FL. That would be 2 x 3.14 x frequency of esr meter which is 100 kHz x 100 (uH) Just plug it in to get the reading. R=0.628 X L(uH) L(uH)=R(ohms)/0.628
Can you tell me what is wrong with this TCL Model: 43S421 TV I thought it was just bad contacts on the ribbons, but I cleaned them, and it still flickers. I took a short video clip of it, but I don't know how to send it in this
Hi Isaac, I love mine and it's working great. I use it a fair amount and have never had a single issue. Haven't even worn out any of the T12 tips yet (I do look after my tips however). Handle choice is entirely personal preference. I've tried 3 of the different designs, and still like the basic plastic 9501 handle best. It has the shortest grip to tip distance (31mm) and is the best balanced in my opinion, but I like working close in for better tip control. Of course, others don't that method or the plastic 9501, and like the aluminum one or the longer working distance 907 better. Your call.
Some oscilloscopes have a signal generator to calibrate the probes and working at 1 KHz/5V : can we use that signal instead if we don't have a signal generator available ?
I would be concerned with 5V output. That is likely too much for most caps and the test alone could cook them or at least use up some of their life. I suppose you could build a simple voltage divider circuit to lower it to about 1V or so which I think would work fine, but that is just a suggestion and don't know how good the test results will be?
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks for your reply, actually, if forgot to tell the signal I'm talking about is DC, between 0 and 5 V, not from -2.5V to 2.5V... We need an AC signal, right ? Also, 1kHz isn't enough, is it ? It should be at least a few dozen of kHz, like yours, 100kHz, right ? And yes, a divider should do the trick...
@gloubiboulga - Yes AC is best so the cap is seeing both positive and negative noise potential. Also correct that 1kHz is not nearly high enough; sorry I missed that and read 100 kHz for some reason. Most capacitor ESR meters will test around 100 kHz I believe. Ideally, if you know the frequency the device is operating at, that is what you would test the caps at. I never checked the switching frequency of the switch mode power supply in this blu-ray player, but many switch mode power supplies operate around 100 kHz so it seems to be a fairly universal test frequency.
ProsKit SS-331 Desolder Station: amzn.to/3xTFQ4r I did a full review on it a while back: Part 1: ruclips.net/video/PuiiZO8Ye70/видео.htmlsi=10YwBoii2BSY1vNt Part 2 (110 - 240V universal voltage update): ruclips.net/video/9eBG7z-2qNE/видео.html
I had to replace the 2 power shottky diodes in my brother in laws sony radio cd player as they were both loosing power by half its proper full value total. There was no power at all to the board. I did check all the capacitors and they were working fine.
can use audio signals to test caps? say put a cap in series with the output of an mp3 player to the sound input on your computer? if the cap is bad it will let a different frequency through or even crackle.
Audio is low frequency (perhaps peaking upwards of 20 kHz the odd time but mostly between 60 Hz and 15 kHz which is a long way off the required 100 kHz to 500 kHz to properly test an electrolytic cap. A cap may pass a low frequency audio test without issue but fail once the frequencies are increased to nominal operating frequencies (again, application dependent).
John in your opinion, what variation in capacitance value would be deemed acceptable / safe when replacing caps .. eg the value of a cap to be replaced is 47uF at 25v, the new replacement cap both being 25v when tested read as being 45uF and 49uF with low ESR, would a person use them or not? .. Thank you.
Personally, I don't put much "value" (pun intended) on tested capacitance values of caps. I would certainly use them (those values are very close in proximity after all) provided there are no physical signs they are shot.
Generally if you get them from a reputable electronics dealer such as DigiKey or Mouser and stay away from the eBay and Amazon ones you are pretty safe with any of them. I personally don't think any one brand is consistently head & shoulders better, but you generally can't go wrong with Nichicon, Rubycon, Vishay or Panasonic. In critical high power stuff stuff like ESC power input caps, (which this old Blu-Ray certainly is not), I generally only use Panasonic caps and have never been let down (anecdotal of course).
Where did you order from, were they local? I used eBay but didn't see the shipper till a tracking # was produced. (China) It may be next year before I get them??? Where a distributor for a future purchase 🤔!
Anyone remember the Chinese capacitor fiasco of the early 2000s? It was mostly flat screen tv power supplies with them. I think it was mostly electrolyte drying out and / or low heat tolerance.
Sadly, the dreaded capacitor disease disabled a tower motherboard of mine. Sure enough, examined the pressure relief cuts across the tops and most were bulging or leaking.
It's actually pretty shocking how many semi-"new" stuff stops working because of failing caps. I had several DVD players on my healing bench not older than 10 years that stopped working because of failed caps while most of my 30-40 years old hifi equipment runs still on it's original caps.
@@BlondieHappyGuy Not necessarily. I've heard stories of VCR repair techs in the first half of the 1980s who were replacing electrolytics in power supplies left, right, and centre, some VCRs as little as one year old. Some old equipment is just a lot less sensitive towards semi-poor caps than switching mode power supplies are. Then of course there was the counterfeit capacitor plague of the 2000s that affected lots of huge equipment manufacturers. Actually I wonder if the Panasonic HDD/DVD recorder I'm working on right now might be old enough to have that issue, the power supply section has leaky Elna electrolytics all over.
@@BlondieHappyGuythe quality of caps used in stuff that isn’t cheap in the least bit is egregious as well. I frequently find absolutely garbage caps in high end, very expensive audio gear.
Never saw this oscilloscope setup before, do can you make a video explaining what is a function generator and how you plug it in and use it aside from caps testing?
Wiki Definition: A function generator is a piece of electronic test equipment used to generate different types of electrical waveforms over a wide range of frequencies. There are already lots of articles, webpages, and videos out there on what a function generator is & what it's used for. Just one of many examples: ruclips.net/video/a4DHYyoNNZ0/видео.html
Thank you for sharing the knowledge! Slightly off topic question: Would you know of any advantages of getting Hantek DSO5102P or Rigol DS1202Z-E oscilloscope? Both are 2-ch. in very similar price range. Hantek is 100MHz which can be hacked to 200. The Rigol is 200MHz factory. Thank you in advance!
@tektech1065. I actually did a review on the Hantek DSO5102P (the scope I use): ruclips.net/video/mIoHFwyeE44/видео.html It's one of the best entry level beginner/hobbyist digital o-scopes on the market in my opinion. In that review, I do mention the Rigol DS1202Z-E as another good choice if you need a deeper memory scope. That would be the primary reason to get it over the Hantek. You state both are similar in price, however, from my research when looking at each before I got the Hantek; the Rigol was almost $100USD more. I haven't looked in a while however so maybe they are on sale or similar now and if that's the case, the logical nod goes to the Rigol for the longer record length.
I picked up from other electronics. Videos that if you spot a baby blue capacitor, it's a Sanyo. And it's absolute garbage: -ergo- replace. Do you concur?? I eagerly look forward to your response
@The Ol' Outlaw - Because the rest had no indication of puffing/leaking - fix the known stuff first. Only if this didn't fix the issue would I then have dug deeper - within reason.
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My general approach to testing electrolytics with a multimeter or capacitance meter is: if capacitance is way out (over 50%) the cap is definitely bad. If the capacitance is in the right ballpark that still doesn't mean the ESR is good, so slightly inconclusive. Apparently high ESR will throw capacitance readings off, at least sometimes, so a much higher capacitance reading than the cap value does tell you the ESR is too high. Annoyingly you can't trust in-circuit measurements and not all bad caps bulge or leak visibly. In fact, out of all the rotten apples I've replaced, only a handfull showed visible damage. All the others looked fine. You can get very affordable component testers that measure ESR, among many other things. These testers can check many different diodes, transistors and other electronic parts and seem to be fairly reliable, especially for their price. The most common model is the LCR-T4.
Where do people come up with this nonsense? Clearly no electronics training. 1. Discharging a low voltage 16V rated cap is pointless. 2. It's being used in a power supply circuit that is self discharging.
Lady in a parking lot said her car would not start needed battery boost. She had her friend change battery and it did not help and several shops told her itcwould need expensive diagnostics. I was late for a job,but I said I take a look. Opened the trunk took a 7/16 wrench tightened up terminals,then with no boost I said try it. Little sliw but it kicked over and ran. Left her my biz card ,asked her to let me know if it failed again. She called me up on a friday and then E transferred me a couple of dollars.
Capacitors are probably better than ever. My guess is that modern circuit design is more concerned with maintaining performance while at the same time minimizing production costs. This comes the expense of component longevity. They are simply using less components in their design which can stress other components. At least that's my take.
4:42 most likely they have a lower ripple current rating which is important for caps used in power supplies. caps with lower ripple current rating will heat up faster and run much hotter and have a much shorter life.
Electrolytic capacitors are a consumable component. Failure mechanism was usage & heat, hastened somewhat by the use of low quality electrolytic caps in this particular unit; but failure would eventually happen regardless.
You mean replace a 16V rated cap with a 10V rated cap? If so, it will likely fail in short order (totally dependent on the operating voltage of the circuit of course). General rule with electrolytic capacitors is you can go higher in voltage rating, but never lower.
Blacklisted devices wreck their capacitors, typically seen on old P2 motherboards. Seems that a legalized, activated device fixes the capacitors by charging them correctly. So if a laptop had previously an illegal Win, by replacing it with a legal one, correctly fixes all components without the need of replacing any parts.
I helped an old friend of the family remove a stuck disc from a dvd player. I did it through brute force though as he was chucking the player due to water damage. The disc was backdoor babes 5.
Awkward moment never to be mentioned outside the anonymity of the internet.
Hey Mark - you win the best comment of the month reward 😄
@@Rchelicopterfun amazing! Is there a prize?
I'd quite like to see the sequel to the aforementioned movie 🍿🍿🍿
@Mark Rice, The prize is the knowledge you had me rolling on the floor. With what is going in the world right now, a good chuckle is most welcome 🙂
As for a sequel to the aforementioned movie, don't look to me. 😄 Think those are on other types of video sharing sites - not that I would know.
Lol
"oh no it's chill man i don't care at all about it, it's all junk just throw it away...."
"nah bro i know i can do this i kind of just want to figure it out, and you'll get your disk back........ got it! oh..."
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describing the electrolyte leak as "shit staining" just earned a subscribe.
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I was like dude what the heck did he actually just say that. Rewound and he did and I started cracking up 🤣🤣🤣
I love that desoldering tool! For the record, I have been finding that most overseas manufacturers are using capacitors with voltage ratings right on the line. In nearly every instance, products that have failed me were easily repaired by replacing the caps and doing so with the next higher voltage rating available.
The two most expensive items I have repaired were so very cheap to fix.
First was the first flat screen TV I ever had that was a plasma TV. Absolutely wonderful image and it started to not want to turn on. Finally, I hear *POP* one day and smell the unmistakable odor of a capacitor gone bad. The TV was dead. Now, as an aside, I used to hear ALL THE TIME about plasma TV failures and how they would go into dumpsters. I opened mine up (about two thousand screws later) and looked at the power board and saw a few bulged caps and one clearly burst. Now, here's the STUPID part. Though they had caps rated exactly for the voltage of the board, the board was drawn to accept LARGER ones. "This is TOO easy!" I said to myself. Yes, it was that easy. I didn't just replace the bad ones; I replaced ALL of them for about $12. That was over two decades ago, and that Plasma set still works like new!!! Like I said, how many plasmas were trashed for a $12 fix!?!?
The second item was the control board for our $1 Jacuzzi (yes, $1 from a friend that moved and couldn't take it (6 people too!). That board was a little less obvious. I found the testing procedures on-line and did everything as stated. I then found a very nice repair service in AZ that worked on them and sent the fellow an e-mail and outlines all my tests. He actually CALLED me on the phone saying that he was impressed seeing somebody else who knew about everything to make the repair. He said, "you won't believe what the problem is." I answered, "The capacitors, right?" Yup, same thing and here again, I fit the next higher voltage rating caps on the board and called it good. That board never failed again, and it only cost me $8 for those (the repair guy normally got $200 if he did it, but he didn't ask for a dime just to confirm what I already knew).
So, are the manufacturers purposely cutting it too close with the caps knowing they will fail so you buy a new item? Somehow, I think so.
For 12v power supply they put 16v caps. When the voltage peaks, it goes 16 volt or higher. Thats how any equipment fails. A thumb rule to be followed is using just double rating cap than the intended voltage. Likewise for 15 to 18v, go for 35-40v cap. For 24v go for 50v rating.
isn't just a $12 fix, your time and tools are $$, and an electronics shop would charge for their time and experience.
@@dicko-200 - I worked in an electronics store and did moderate repairs. We were VERY fair on what we charged. I could tell stories about the big "pro" repair shops that fell flat on their faces! Worst case ever... A CB radio that was brought in and not working at all. Sent to pro shop #1 and came back after 4 months with: "Cannot find problem, Unit not worth repair." Sent it to pro shop #2, SAME THING. Sat in the back of our shop waiting for the owner to come get it but after four months he hadn't. One slow day, I said "Oh, what the heck, let me see if I can fix it." I took the back off, examined it for about 1 minute with a magnifying glass and grabbed the cordless soldering iron to touch up just ONE bad solder joint. Worked perfectly! $10 repair and the customer was ecstatic!! Why didn't I just fix it there in the first place? Pro shop #1 (that owned our store) had complained we were not sending enough repairs their way. We sent it to shop #2 because we THOUGHT #1 at least TRIED to fix it, so it must have been beyond our talents. We were wrong!! The pros don't know it all.
If a few Caps in parallel have one bulged change all 3 as the unbulged could have failed first leaving all the work onto the bulged one.
No doubt!
Thanks, you've shownthe best way to diagnose and replace bad caps. Very inspiring for those who never tried this before.
Thanks for watching 🙂
Hi ! Certainly one of the best video I saw about electrolytic capacitors, defect, repair and analysis of why and still understandable by the common man! Congratulations and thanks!
Thanks for the kind words and thank for watching.
Totally deserved , my friend!@@Rchelicopterfun
I always like to remind and / or teach people before touching a circuit board to confirm that the capacitors are drained first, and if not, to drain them first. Also, I love that disordering tool!! Thank you for this video!!!
I have found SO many failed electrolytic caps in all the repairs that I have done over many years that I replace them with a higher voltage cap, and I have never had one come back for any related problem. Thanks for sharing the video.
Good tip, thanks for the view 👍🙂
Thanks for teaching us something useful and not posting tiktok videos like most people these days. subscribed!
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Thanks for the explanations and demonstrations. I really appreciate people like you sharing knowledge & skills, esp'y. when you're concise & efficient with the task at hand. So many ppl spend too much video time pointing out the obviously UNrelated components &/or features. "We're going to check the power supply because the red standby light doesn't come on....or is it blue? Let's seeeee........"
Um no thanks, I'm troubleshooting my DVR's power, not LED colors. Move it!
So typical in power supplies. The capacitors are failing due to the poor selection of the capacitors in the design of the power supply. There is a spec called "ripple current", and most engineers aren't even aware enough to check that spec when selecting caps. It's easy to exceed the ripple current rating, then the caps overheat inside, drying out the electrolyte. This design even paralleled 2 caps, and it still wasn't enough! I learned about this back in the mid 90's, and have spent quite a bit of my career fixing power supplies with this issue.
The spikes you're seeing are the inductance in the test leads you're using. At a 100Khz square wave, there's no way to get rid of them, and even a new capacitor will fail to filter them out. Some designs parallel smaller value capacitors with the larger ones, but this isn't necessary in this application. Excellent video, and I like your method of testing in-circuit.
Good stuff. Thanks and cheers!
Thanks for calling out the parasitic inductance as the source of the transition spikes. I was hunting through the comments to see if anyone else identified it before writing!
I bought a job lot of used Dell computers from a school a few years back, and in this bundle was a brand new one that worked for a minute and failed. Needless to say i was intrigued, so the first port of call was to open up the faulty one. Lo and behold half of the electrolytics were installed the wrong way round, a quick replacement af roughly half a dozen caps and all is well again. So even the big boys make mistakes.
Excellent fix!
Your desoldering tool is amazing sir
The hakko is even better 1/2 -1 second to remove caps of this size
@@ericschulze5641I know it's been a year, but which Hakko model?
@@johnbauman4005 works great on older units/ lead solder
@@johnbauman4005 newer solder takes more time but still better than solder wick
Get it from valutronics they're the biggest distributor in the world for this stuff
Use an ESR meter to check all the electrolytics in circuit. Worth the money for a decent one.
I always recommend taking a quick photo of all components prior to removal. Observe the polarity of polarized components prior to removal. I have encountered several occasions (especially with Marantz) where board markings are incorrect (factory quality errors). Always replace components with the polarity used from the factory. Do NOT rely on PCB markings to be accurate.
Very true & good idea. 👍
Better quality caps, last longer, in my experience, nichicon kg, rubycon, Audio note, there's lots, great video👍
Agreed, those are good cap manufacturers. Gota add one more of my personal anecdotal experience favorites to the "good list" : Panasonic. 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun I've seen Rubycon's fail on many motherboards over the years. Nichicon's and Sanyo's are much better in comparison.
When caps fail and get bulged i replace them with a bit higher voltage rated ones, in that case if they are 16v I put 25v if the size allows me. I use to test caps with an analog multimeter but after all this years i found the best method is replace "all" old caps for new ones especially on the hot locations on the device and the power supply.
Thank you so much...can you please show how to select the correct filter cap for a transformer less supply?
Great video John, I have a player just like yours and this helped a lot if I should have this problem. Thank you.
Thanks Gregory, glad you found it useful should you ever have the same issue with your Samy B-R.
.... Don't forget to discharge large caps before you start any diagnostics.
Very interesting and informative as always !! My pool pump was having more and more difficulty starting last summer and as you said, it finally would not start at all...Main suspect was the big capacitor ...Changed it, and bingo....Starts like new. But now with your video, I will be more confident to try it with household electronics ! Thank you M.Salt .
@1983dmd Yep, caps are consumable. 😄 Good you were able to fix your pump with a new one.
That cap on the pump will have ~ 100 V on it so more dangerous than a DVD cap!
@@danc2014 A cap on a DVD player would have 110-240v before stepped down to 5-12v on the powersupply side.
Replaced 160v 47uf caps on my tv p/s board with 300v 1000uf. The TV turns on and works fine, do you think I'll have a problem later on?
Thank you for the Video. Do I need to worry about the Ripple Current rating of the new capacitor? Some people are very serious about them and some don't even bother thinking about them.
Completely depends on the circuit and application. If the circuit in question has the potential to produce lots of ripple in operation and the design specifications calls for little, then of course you want a cap that is of the required rating to absorb it. If it's a non critical/low current application however (such as this item), then it's moot.
10 points!! Ding ding ding! He can pronounce solder! Amazing!
Good video, thanks for the upload! Curious, did you discharge those two biggish caps before removing them?
No for three primary reasons:
1. Circuit is self discharging.
2. They were faulty caps and didn't hold a charge.
3. The voltage is low (under 16V) and not a risk factor regardless.
Good job 👍
Excellent and very useful! Do you ever discharge capacitors before replacing them?
Not on little low voltage caps like these ones - they hold very little energy. I personally start concerning myself with discharging high capacity caps once they are over several hundred volts.
Thanks for posting this! Is there any way to check a capacitor while it's still in the circuit board?
Yes, with a dedicated ESR meter. Low cost example in description.
Yep, JCCON do go bad, have replaced them on motherboards. It seems the ones that go bad are the ones that are the smallest size for a given spec. If using sketchy caps, I'd go up in voltage if room permits.
Hi john. I would like you to do some video clips on how to repair an adapter charger (12, 24, ..) volts and also advise the common faults/damages on the adapter chargers.
There are a variety of adapter chargers such remote control toys, scooters, etc.. batteries chargers. Just simply pick any of them as examples.
Thanks
Nice informative video. Learned this simple trick. 👍 Please some time make a video of how to identify a bad SMD capacitor in a mother board. Thise are pretty small and no markings on it.
Don't know myself... I'm sure Louis Rossmann has it covered.
My 2009 LENOVO M58p desktop computer was now giving me the boot loop run around. The cause turned out to be due to there being 1 defective capacitor in the PSU. However, 5 other caps also had the bulge as well. Overall, I replaced 7 capacitors. Now all is well again. Total cost was $9.55. That is a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a new PSU. Same goes for my 2010 SAMSUNG TV. Just 1 capacitor had to be replaced, which I removed from some old junk that I had floating around, and so it cost me nothing at all. And so both are still working to this day.
Isn't an old unused capacitor prone to dry out, or they dry out only from overheating?
I'm trying to understand if it would have been better to buy a fresh one.
@@miguelescutia5556 The TV was pretty old, and the cap had been used very little way back when. Thus it was mostly exposed to mere room heat over the many years. Meanwhile I have replaced electrolytic capacitors in my 1976 Heathkit AA-1506 Audio amplifier. The non-polarized electrolytic caps were in the worst condition and thus had caused nasty voltage offsets. Plus I replaced electrolytic capacitors in my 1978 Soundcraftsmen PE-2217 Equalizer/Pre-Amp. Both are still working up to this day.
Built an ESR meter when I was a young tech in training. They are worth having and provide a reliable indication of a bad capacitor in circuit too. But your method of the function generator and CRO works well. Guess they aren't CRO's anymore having digital screens. Fun fact, the first digital oscilloscope I ever used was worth $80000, how times have changed.
Yep, crazy how little digital o-scopes cost now. 🙂 Thanks for the visit.
That's insane! I was blown away at what Tektronix was getting for the analog scopes like the 2445 when they were brand new. No wonder the average hobbyist had to settle for a tiny little 15MHz with bare minimum features to be functional and still paid a pretty good price for those even.... but the Teks were definitely fetching top dollar for those days. 80s prices are still more than I'd want to spend nowadays, nevermind if inflation since then and such were factored in. I was lucky enough to have found a used 2445 in mint condition with fairly low hours on it compared to a lot I've seen. They actually track how many times they've been powered on and booted up too which I find I testing to look at. Seems most labs turn them on and leave them on none stop only shutting them down on weekends or holidays is what I find evidence of most times. Funny, I bought an old scope to work on my electronics and actually found working on old tek scopes can be pretty fun and challenging too. Love the old tektronix test gear.
In this case it is clearly seen that the capacitors are perforated. I really liked the desoldering gun, I had not seen it before. Could you tell me if it is possible to buy it somewhere? Thank you.
Links are in the description.
Does this method works on in circuit capacitors or uou always need yo detach them first?
Thank you, John, for your video,awesome equipment. what brand of capacitors that you are using for repair?
I don't recall, just searched though my odds & ends cap bin and found a few that had the same ratings. If you have to order them anyway, usually best to get them from a good supplier such as digi-key, mouser, online components, etc. These places generally don't sell crap or reject caps that you might sometimes run across on ebay & amazon.
Thanks a lot! You taught me the positive and negative terminals so I fixed it! But do you really need soldering wires?
Only if you want it to work.
could you use caps from an old PC motherboard per say that still aren't bulging and leaking?
Yep, provided of course they are the same values. Best to test them first to make sure they are not faulty because as stated, not all bad caps will show physical damage.
Wouldn't it be good to clean under the capacitors that leaked before replacement?
If there was residue on the board of course, but these ones as shown only had slight staining on top; there was nothing clean underneath.
John; I' m fixing a Jennings slot machine. Could I replace a 1.0k Tantalum Capacitor with a new 2.2 Electroletic capacitor. Same voltage.
Hey interesting stuff 👍
Do you have anything on how to check spike absorbers with multi meter. I am wanting to check a couple of Fettec spike absorbers
Where do you buy capacitors if you're fixings these electronic parts?
Any electronics component store (Digi-Key, Mouser, Newark, etc.)
Hi
My 25 yr old car radio stopped powering up. I changed the two 2200uF capacitors in the power supply and it didn’t help. Could it be the other capacitors on the power supply board? Thanks!
I have a VCR I bought on eBay, and the picture color is a bit bluish and discoloured, could it be a failing capacitor?
Hey unrelated to the vid but I have a cassette deck that requires tuning with a 1khz at -10db signal , what equipment do I need to do that?
Excellent video. Tank you!
Thanks for watching 🙂
Wait, i was thinking that you can place both more Voltage and more capacity in microfarads? Like you can safely put 25v 3300uf instead of old 16v 2200uf. Am i wrong?
Hi, is there a link to purchase the soldering kit you used or one that you would suggest getting for this type of work?
Links in description to all equipment I use.
John that method works for capacitors of a wide range of capacitances or do you have to adjust frequenvy and/or vpp ?
I've found it fairly universal, at least for my hobbyist/DIY testing applications.
@@Rchelicopterfun ty :)
Do you have to observe the polarity when connecting them to a multimeter? Which is the positive in that case?
Yes; positive would naturally be the one that is not marked negative.
Great. Can repair electronics, greetings to all, I'm from a content creator from Indonesia
My 2 NAD stereo receiver power supply filter caps are rated 4700uF 50V. Are you saying I shouldn't go over 4700uF but volts are okay to bump up?
I don't know enough about audio equipment applications to give you a definitive answer, but the general rule is you can always increase the voltage rating of an electrolytic cap provided there is enough room to fit. Most of the comments support that as well.
Is it common for the electrolytic fluid to be that dark color? Or does it change color over time?
I've seen it almost black, brown, yellow and cream. No idea if the color changes from time, usage, heat, application or the specific electrolyte used by a given manufacturer?
Good clear vid. Thanks.
nice! Many ppl dont know our appliances like LCD LED TV mostly wont boot up also cause by bloated capacitors....😊
Yes, so true. You have to wonder how many costly devices are tossed out when a few dollars of caps could save them?
The MESR-100 V2 is awesome. You can also test the resistance or microhenries of the inductors with the esr meter. The reactance formula is 2𝛑FL. That would be 2 x 3.14 x frequency of esr meter which is 100 kHz x 100 (uH) Just plug it in to get the reading.
R=0.628 X L(uH)
L(uH)=R(ohms)/0.628
Can you tell me what is wrong with this TCL Model: 43S421 TV I thought it was just bad contacts on the ribbons, but I cleaned them, and it still flickers. I took a short video clip of it, but I don't know how to send it in this
I have a radio HITHACHI 32 years old stereo, its one side sound very low should I replace all capacitors, I think so, please give me some advice
Hey John I’m looking at buying a ksger t12 station and wondering if it’s still a good station. I also can’t decide between handles
Hi Isaac, I love mine and it's working great. I use it a fair amount and have never had a single issue. Haven't even worn out any of the T12 tips yet (I do look after my tips however). Handle choice is entirely personal preference. I've tried 3 of the different designs, and still like the basic plastic 9501 handle best. It has the shortest grip to tip distance (31mm) and is the best balanced in my opinion, but I like working close in for better tip control. Of course, others don't that method or the plastic 9501, and like the aluminum one or the longer working distance 907 better. Your call.
@@Rchelicopterfun Cheers
So liking your explanations. Really want to get an oscilloscope now. Thanks.
Some oscilloscopes have a signal generator to calibrate the probes and working at 1 KHz/5V : can we use that signal instead if we don't have a signal generator available ?
I would be concerned with 5V output. That is likely too much for most caps and the test alone could cook them or at least use up some of their life. I suppose you could build a simple voltage divider circuit to lower it to about 1V or so which I think would work fine, but that is just a suggestion and don't know how good the test results will be?
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks for your reply, actually, if forgot to tell the signal I'm talking about is DC, between 0 and 5 V, not from -2.5V to 2.5V...
We need an AC signal, right ?
Also, 1kHz isn't enough, is it ? It should be at least a few dozen of kHz, like yours, 100kHz, right ?
And yes, a divider should do the trick...
@gloubiboulga - Yes AC is best so the cap is seeing both positive and negative noise potential. Also correct that 1kHz is not nearly high enough; sorry I missed that and read 100 kHz for some reason. Most capacitor ESR meters will test around 100 kHz I believe. Ideally, if you know the frequency the device is operating at, that is what you would test the caps at. I never checked the switching frequency of the switch mode power supply in this blu-ray player, but many switch mode power supplies operate around 100 kHz so it seems to be a fairly universal test frequency.
What's the name of the handtool you use to desolder?
ProsKit SS-331 Desolder Station: amzn.to/3xTFQ4r
I did a full review on it a while back: Part 1: ruclips.net/video/PuiiZO8Ye70/видео.htmlsi=10YwBoii2BSY1vNt
Part 2 (110 - 240V universal voltage update): ruclips.net/video/9eBG7z-2qNE/видео.html
I had to replace the 2 power shottky diodes in my brother in laws sony radio cd player as they were both loosing power by half its proper full value total. There was no power at all to the board. I did check all the capacitors and they were working fine.
Nice repair 👍
can I replace a high-voltage ceramic capacitor 100pk/1kv that is not original for a TV
can use audio signals to test caps?
say put a cap in series with the output of an mp3 player to the sound input on your computer?
if the cap is bad it will let a different frequency through or even crackle.
Audio is low frequency (perhaps peaking upwards of 20 kHz the odd time but mostly between 60 Hz and 15 kHz which is a long way off the required 100 kHz to 500 kHz to properly test an electrolytic cap. A cap may pass a low frequency audio test without issue but fail once the frequencies are increased to nominal operating frequencies (again, application dependent).
Holy. Buck rogers bat man , thats a cool desolder tool
Thanks! Have the same problem so now I know how to fix it 😬
Hope you are able to fix yours too Tom.
John in your opinion, what variation in capacitance value would be deemed acceptable / safe when replacing caps .. eg the value of a cap to be replaced is 47uF at 25v, the new replacement cap both being 25v when tested read as being 45uF and 49uF with low ESR, would a person use them or not? .. Thank you.
Personally, I don't put much "value" (pun intended) on tested capacitance values of caps. I would certainly use them (those values are very close in proximity after all) provided there are no physical signs they are shot.
Nice info, thank you for sharing it :)
Thanks back for the view 🙂
Is there a preferred brand of capacitors to buy?
Generally if you get them from a reputable electronics dealer such as DigiKey or Mouser and stay away from the eBay and Amazon ones you are pretty safe with any of them. I personally don't think any one brand is consistently head & shoulders better, but you generally can't go wrong with Nichicon, Rubycon, Vishay or Panasonic. In critical high power stuff stuff like ESC power input caps, (which this old Blu-Ray certainly is not), I generally only use Panasonic caps and have never been let down (anecdotal of course).
Where did you order from, were they local? I used eBay but didn't see the shipper till a tracking # was produced. (China) It may be next year before I get them??? Where a distributor for a future purchase 🤔!
Here in Canada, I usually purchase electronic components from DigiKey or Mouser.
Anyone remember the Chinese capacitor fiasco of the early 2000s?
It was mostly flat screen tv power supplies with them.
I think it was mostly electrolyte drying out and / or low heat tolerance.
Sadly, the dreaded capacitor disease disabled a tower motherboard of mine. Sure enough, examined the pressure relief cuts across the tops and most were bulging or leaking.
It's actually pretty shocking how many semi-"new" stuff stops working because of failing caps. I had several DVD players on my healing bench not older than 10 years that stopped working because of failed caps while most of my 30-40 years old hifi equipment runs still on it's original caps.
@@BlondieHappyGuy Not necessarily. I've heard stories of VCR repair techs in the first half of the 1980s who were replacing electrolytics in power supplies left, right, and centre, some VCRs as little as one year old. Some old equipment is just a lot less sensitive towards semi-poor caps than switching mode power supplies are. Then of course there was the counterfeit capacitor plague of the 2000s that affected lots of huge equipment manufacturers. Actually I wonder if the Panasonic HDD/DVD recorder I'm working on right now might be old enough to have that issue, the power supply section has leaky Elna electrolytics all over.
@@BlondieHappyGuythe quality of caps used in stuff that isn’t cheap in the least bit is egregious as well. I frequently find absolutely garbage caps in high end, very expensive audio gear.
Never saw this oscilloscope setup before, do can you make a video explaining what is a function generator and how you plug it in and use it aside from caps testing?
Wiki Definition: A function generator is a piece of electronic test equipment used to generate different types of electrical waveforms over a wide range of frequencies.
There are already lots of articles, webpages, and videos out there on what a function generator is & what it's used for. Just one of many examples: ruclips.net/video/a4DHYyoNNZ0/видео.html
can you help me with what is CP802 on a samsung TV Un46fh6030f power supply board??
Thank you for sharing the knowledge! Slightly off topic question: Would you know of any advantages of getting Hantek DSO5102P or Rigol DS1202Z-E oscilloscope? Both are 2-ch. in very similar price range. Hantek is 100MHz which can be hacked to 200. The Rigol is 200MHz factory. Thank you in advance!
@tektech1065. I actually did a review on the Hantek DSO5102P (the scope I use): ruclips.net/video/mIoHFwyeE44/видео.html
It's one of the best entry level beginner/hobbyist digital o-scopes on the market in my opinion. In that review, I do mention the Rigol DS1202Z-E as another good choice if you need a deeper memory scope. That would be the primary reason to get it over the Hantek.
You state both are similar in price, however, from my research when looking at each before I got the Hantek; the Rigol was almost $100USD more. I haven't looked in a while however so maybe they are on sale or similar now and if that's the case, the logical nod goes to the Rigol for the longer record length.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you very much!
I picked up from other electronics. Videos that if you spot a baby blue capacitor, it's a Sanyo. And it's absolute garbage:
-ergo- replace.
Do you concur??
I eagerly look forward to your response
Hi
I recommend two toys: BSIDE ESR02 Pro and/or MESR 100
Thanks for the video, but you didn't say or explain why you didn't check or change out any other caps on the power board...?
@The Ol' Outlaw - Because the rest had no indication of puffing/leaking - fix the known stuff first. Only if this didn't fix the issue would I then have dug deeper - within reason.
@@Rchelicopterfun Okay, makes sense. Thankyou for the reply. :)
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My general approach to testing electrolytics with a multimeter or capacitance meter is: if capacitance is way out (over 50%) the cap is definitely bad. If the capacitance is in the right ballpark that still doesn't mean the ESR is good, so slightly inconclusive. Apparently high ESR will throw capacitance readings off, at least sometimes, so a much higher capacitance reading than the cap value does tell you the ESR is too high. Annoyingly you can't trust in-circuit measurements and not all bad caps bulge or leak visibly. In fact, out of all the rotten apples I've replaced, only a handfull showed visible damage. All the others looked fine.
You can get very affordable component testers that measure ESR, among many other things. These testers can check many different diodes, transistors and other electronic parts and seem to be fairly reliable, especially for their price. The most common model is the LCR-T4.
What about discharging the capacitor to remove all charges and corresponding voltage. It’s important information.
Where do people come up with this nonsense? Clearly no electronics training. 1. Discharging a low voltage 16V rated cap is pointless.
2. It's being used in a power supply circuit that is self discharging.
Great vid, as always! Thank you! :)
Thanks for the view - as always 🙂
Lady in a parking lot said her car would not start needed battery boost. She had her friend change battery and it did not help and several shops told her itcwould need expensive diagnostics.
I was late for a job,but I said I take a look. Opened the trunk took a 7/16 wrench tightened up terminals,then with no boost I said try it.
Little sliw but it kicked over and ran. Left her my biz card ,asked her to let me know if it failed again. She called me up on a friday and then E transferred me a couple of dollars.
Capacitors are probably better than ever. My guess is that modern circuit design is more concerned with maintaining performance while at the same time minimizing production costs. This comes the expense of component longevity. They are simply using less components in their design which can stress other components. At least that's my take.
4:42 most likely they have a lower ripple current rating which is important for caps used in power supplies. caps with lower ripple current rating will heat up faster and run much hotter and have a much shorter life.
i was frelng privileged about having my esr meter until you pulled out your function generator and oscilloscope
Greate Video Thanks you very much
Glad you liked it 🙂
Nobody wants to desolder every cap to test, what's best way to test in circuit on pcb ? ESR test ?
ESR meter.
hi gold caps are much better than the other ones
Do you look for what caused the fail?
Electrolytic capacitors are a consumable component. Failure mechanism was usage & heat, hastened somewhat by the use of low quality electrolytic caps in this particular unit; but failure would eventually happen regardless.
You put in those new caps right away, aren't you supposed to tin the leads first, to avoid cold solder joints ?
All component leads are pre-tinned.
i have a blu-ray player that crapped out on me, it looks alot like the one you;re fixing
thanks a lot .
What is ESR?
If i change 16v by 10v what will happen
You mean replace a 16V rated cap with a 10V rated cap? If so, it will likely fail in short order (totally dependent on the operating voltage of the circuit of course). General rule with electrolytic capacitors is you can go higher in voltage rating, but never lower.
our Blu-ray player has been acting up in us for some time now, I didn't realize capacitors could be the cause though..! 🤔
I purchased a box of Chinese ChongX capacitors. Later I discovered they are not good quality. Should I throw them away?
better to note polarity before disassembly board markings can be wrong
I wish I had a blue ray player. and a blue ray disc.
But this method does not work for low ESR capacitors? You are using AC voltage on a high ESR value capacitors here.
Blacklisted devices wreck their capacitors, typically seen on old P2 motherboards. Seems that a legalized, activated device fixes the capacitors by charging them correctly. So if a laptop had previously an illegal Win, by replacing it with a legal one, correctly fixes all components without the need of replacing any parts.