My mom was born in Moscow in 1970, and spent her life in and around Moscow until 2002. She could relate to most of these images. Here's what she had to say: 0:29: didn't say anything 0:32: She remembers this being typical of a concert hall or maybe a movie theatre in her day. 0:35: didn't say anything 0:38: This is the same building as at 0:32. 0:41: She remembers this as the stage for a community hall or a school, if the school had a stage. Her school didn't have a stage, but she knows other ones did. 0:44: Couldn't put her finger on it, but related it to something like a circus. 0:47: Very typical pattern in Soviet times, not only on ceilings like this, but also on concrete walls. 0:50: didn't say anything 0:53: didn't say anything 0:56: This is likely the same room as the stage at 0:41, it's not super nostalgic to her. 0:59: didn't say anything 1:02: didn't say anything 1:05: These were old Soviet cartoon characters, she doesn't remember art like this anywhere, but she distinctly remembers the characters. 1:08: This is the house of old Russian nobility, before the Soviet era (landlords and such). 1:11: Said she doesn't recognize it at all. 1:14: didn't say anything 1:17: This is every single 5 story apartment building in Russia, especially in smaller towns. She remembers it clearly. 1:20: An old Soviet telephone center, where calls would be directed by workers. 1:23: This is a specific restaurant from an old Soviet comedy movie she can't remember the name of. 1:26: didn't say anything 1:29: She remembers this as old communal apartments, where an apartment would have about 10-15 bedrooms and hold random people. She said it wasn't a great place to be in. 1:32: Doesn't recognize it. 1:35: The sign says "Eatery" or something of that sort, and it was at an old children's summer camp. There were a lot of these being abandoned after the fall of the USSR. 1:38: The bathroom at a similar children's summer camp. 1:41: She didn't recognize this one. 1:44: Brezhnev-era apartment buildings that are still all over Russia. 1:47: didn't say anything 1:50: Very typical living room for people living in apartment buildings. 1:53: didn't say anything 1:56: This is the coat room from her school. 1:59: She didn't really recognize this one. 2:02: This one was very hard to pin down, she couldn't figure out the purpose of the building, but knew it was from about the 1930's. 2:05: "Haha, Baba Yaga." 2:08: A 1930's era apartment. These elevators weren't just commonplace in these buildings, but she's also seen them in buildings in Paris. 2:11: this one's actually a duplicate image from earlier in the video 2:14: This image brought up a lot of bad memories. When the Soviet Union fell in 1991, food was extremely hard to come by for a few months. She would walk around her area and look around 6 or 7 different grocery stores, looking to buy something, anything to feed her and my sister (born August 1991). Sometimes they would go home empty handed. She also told a story of when my sister was little, how she would confuse the words road (Дорога, Doroga) and store (магазин, magazin), and once said, after looking into the street from their apartment: "The store is dark!" because my mom had been walking with her all day to a bunch of stores, trying to find some food. I'm personally glad I was born much later, I wouldn't want to have suffered the way she did. 2:17: Old university dorm rooms. 2:20: didn't say anything 2:23: Something like a movie theatre. 2:26: An apartment of someone who was financially well-off. This video really does the memories of those who lived in the late and post Soviet era justice. I could tell it was really running her mind.
American Solar Sands viewer here! Most of the "american" liminal spaces just feel like fads long forgotten and moved on from to newer fads. This russian one makes me feel so much more sad. Like there was a dream for a better world but it ended up being cancelled and forgotten and left to decay.
Exactly. Hits me every time. It's just this feeling of grief... Not for past reality, but for the hope we all had. These buildings had a purpose that is lost now.
@@lilobungus1572 согласна, но они вызывают у тебя ностальгию? Они выглядят знакомыми? Я жила в США до 6ти лет, хочу чтобы были такие же видео с русскими местами
@@lilobungus1572 в США криповее, потому что там эта тема давно форсится, и подключились рукастые люди с фотошопом. Ещё были подборки по фобиям (например hylophobia) с расслабляющий музыкой которые имели в себе такие-же ощущения. Вообще liminal space стартанул как Крипипаста backrooms, куда поподали из затекстурия. Это была обычная Крипипаста. Есть liminal spaces где что-то не так, или там какое-то существо. Это уже ближе к cursed images и Тревору Хендерсону.
As a romanian person this really hit home as we were also a communist country and we have many of these post-soviet abandoned places in our country that i can actually relate to much more than to the american ones. great vid
Da exact!! Pt mn si unele dintre pozele americane mi se par familiare pentru ca am copilărit pe internet cu multă influență americană, dar în retrospectivă tot ce ai spus este ff adevărat mai ales pentru români. Also I didn't think I'd find Romanian ppl who know about this omg
A lot of what makes liminal spaces feel liminal is the lack of people so ig the candle burns were edited there to cover the people’s faces so they didn’t feel like actual people were there or something aha.. also it makes it look like straight up oddcore imo
Заметил интересную особенность. Как человек, родившийся в самом конце девяностых и выросший в нулевые, я не нахожу большую часть этих изображений некомфортными. Скорее всего из-за того, что в годы моего детства то, что осталось от СССР уже было в таком состоянии - брошенном, разваленном, засоренном, разграбленном. Фотографии, где советские места, напротив, в более целостном виде, кажутся мне куда более некомфортными - потому что в своей жизни я не видел их в таком состоянии.
ДА соглы. Но все же советские фото аккуратных улиц (и обязательно в таких подборках одна-две фотки обязаны быть рядом с цветущими маками, почему-то, да да вот эти) -- это как бы вывернутый наизнанку концепт лиминального пространства, т.е. фото всё ещё цепляют глаз но не как оригинальные видео формата pictures that feel familiar, и пугать тоже не пугают. По крайней мере меня -- может, только меня, но что я вижу в данном видео -- довольно дословное переложение мема на наши реалии, с хоррорными клише. По-моему что очень влияет на весь концепт -- это американский дизайн 80-00х: нежные тона, эдакая утопичность, монотонность. Может быть, даже складывается настораживающий консьюмеристский миф, как в случае с частью вейпорвейва. Опять же есть разница с постсоветской средой. Рамки liminal spaces-движухи (вроде бы) размыты и субъективны, непонятно, на какие именно чувства это должно давить и как. Странная смесь воспоминаний и добавленной тревожности
Вообще основную роль играет был ли там когда-нибудь, и умножается на насколько давно ты там был. Например гос здание, может пансионат или дом отдыха, или просто старый город на перегоне вмежду столицами. Парки и детские площадки с постройками космической тематики добавляют больше ощущения, потому-что вы там были.
Captain Akamar Я родился в двухтысячных и для меня кажутся некоторые из этих фотографий такими, будто я их видел раньше, что вызывает неизвестную тревогу. Как мне кажется, то такие эмоции вызывает тот факт, что советские квартиры напоминают о внутренней архитектуре дома/квартиры тех же бабушек и дедушек. Или та же самая картинка школы или спортзала должна вызывать у человека такое чувство, будто он там был, конечно же, если и обучался/учится в пост-советской школе.
Чувак, музыка, в ней всё дело, поставь музыку порезче и страшнее, будет страшнее Мне и от подборок с американскими местами не жутко, так что ваще спорная тема
I'm neither American nor Russian but the American liminal spaces focused more on early modern architecture from the 70's onwards along with bad lighting, from being old photos (or manipulated to look as such) and an uncanny lifeless context, which I personally find both weird in the nerves because I actually don't like how the place looks and amusing because of the kooky 70's/80's/90's vibes of the design. This Russian one, so far I've seen, actually made me sad, especially with the ones that were more Soviet, likely designed during a shift from the monarch to the revolution era. I am a sucker for very classical design and regardless of the period, I can see that the engineers and designers put more aesthetic thought behind these places, so seeing it as decrepit and abandoned makes me yearn for its renovation.
This, I'm Canadian and therefore have the exact same architecture as the American ones in my memories, those ones have the sort of uncomfortable vibe of something that's too clean and harshly lit, whereas with these soviet ones, especially the more monarch era ones, I very much like the design of them and find myself actually wanting to go there and just sit down and look at the scenery. Even if that would probably give me several mold based diseases.
Thank you. I couldn't relate to the American ones a lot and couldn't experience the feeling everyone was talking about. This helped me understand and I got goosebumps
Yeah I thought there was a need for this kind of collection after realizing that the internet's concept of liminal space didn't do much for me; I spent a large portion of my childhood in Russia and my concept of liminality is different
@@NeoLiyaPage liminal spaces are places that are somehow "wrong" to the brain. Like seeing an empty playground at night-- your brain is used to seeing playgrounds with children, and usually during the day. When this context is disrupted, it creates a liminal space and a weird feeling. It can also be triggered by seeing things vaguely familiar. Although liminal space isn't by definition related to nostalgia, much of online liminal space images showcase this in some way. You see a place (for example, the image with the concrete apartment staircase typical in many Soviet housing buildings) that looks very very familiar, and you're weirded out-- how can this image I didn't photograph and haven't been to be so familiar? My video combines these two ideas; Soviet familiarity with unnerving setting. I would describe the feeling as melancholy, unnerving, confusing, creepy. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what to tell you if you don't feel it. Perhaps you could find something more familiar to your own life.
I am Polish (although I partially spent my childhood outside of Poland), and it's interesting to see the contrast the kinds of things that impact me, that impact Americans and those that impact you. The images that I found the most "relatable" is 1:17, it looks very similar to how I remember the corridors of most flats in my area; rather ran down and with the occasional graffiti. The images at 1:50 and 2:26 also seem to me very familiar, reminding me of the type of furniture I would find in the houses of my grandparents and great-grandparents.
east german here, feels very simmilar to my area aswell, especially the abandoned military-ish looking places, the panel flats, and the furniture (especially the big wall shelf, those were really common and still are pretty common here)
Глядя на эти фото, ощущаешь не дискомфорт, а грусть и досаду. Грустно видеть места, где люди жили, провели детство, в таком плачевном состоянии. Наследние ушедшей эпохи, которое не смогли сохранить. Сдается мне, иностранцы, смотря на подборки своих лиминальных пространств, такого не чувствуют. В зарубежных подборках эти места такие чистенькие, хоть и не всегда современные
Это видео вызывает не настальгию или что-то такое, а прям тяжёлую и тягучую тоску... и такую пустоту в душе, что ты просто сидишь и смотришь не думая ниочём...
*American Liminal Spaces* = A place where everything is all empty with a uncanny or nostalgic context, but that doesn't mean that humans left there, they still come back for a purpose. *Soviet Russian Liminal Space* = A place full of tragedy and decay to the point of becoming forgotten by humans, but it still has the beauty that once they had. *Me, reacting to Liminal Spaces:* _WHAT KIND OF PLACE IS THIS?!!!_
Родилась в начале 2000-х, ностальгию в плане детства многие фото не передают, просто глубокую тоску. Я не была в этих местах, но есть какое то культурное эхо, будто из прошлой жизни. Некоторые школьные фотографии работают как надо, дискомфорт того что тут что-то не так. Особенно сцена в актовом зале, прямо мурашки. Другие же... Они незнакомы, но на каком-то базовом уровне очень родны, странно искажены что-ли...
this drives home the fact that the sense of haunted nostalgia that comes with this is...culture specific. these dont give me the same feeling most of these videos do. instead of being terrifyingly familiar, it is unfamiliar and mysterious, creating a different form of unease.
I'm really obsessed with this type of Russian photography. Or slavic in general honestly. It's not ingenuine for the purpose of scare, it's a marking of history and hardships. Not necessarily Russia, but I also really do find Chernobyl images to be spine-chilling. There's something about these abandoned buildings and other public places once filled with people to be empty and worn down that peaks my interest.
As a Russian-American and a child of immigrants from the former Soviet Union, this video brought a fresh, different perspective on liminal spaces that I really appreciate. I've felt that feeling of familiarity that most people describe when watching more American-focused liminal space videos, because I've spent most of my life in the United States, but this video also hit close to home - especially the images at 1:17, 1:29, 2:08, and 2:26. They remind me of my extended family's flats in Russia. And the ruin of the Soviet-era buildings evoke this deep, deep sadness and longing in me for a future that never happened. In American-focused liminal space videos, I mostly feel a kind of pleasant nostalgia, like an "oh! I've seen this place before" or even a somewhat scornful recognition, like shallow trends created fast, then abandoned faster. Russian liminal spaces make me feel a kind of grief - what could have been, but never was. I believed in the bright future that the Soviet Union imagined once, too. Just like my parents, and everyone before them. Anyways great video I loved it :D
I am also Russian-American and a child of immigrants. This video was made for people like you and I :) and I agree with you about a future that never was. That's what it feels like to be in a post-Soviet country-- decaying infrastructure everywhere, shadows of a dream. I think the part of my childhood spent in Russia really makes me appreciate abandoned things more, in general. (SLIGHT SPOILERS FOR CASTLE IN THE SKY) If you've seen castle in the sky, I get the same feeling when they visit Laputa. A giant, advanced civilization in ruins.
YESSS where my Russian-American kids at? Anyways, I ended up moving TO Russia at 3-4 years old in the early 2000s, and found most of these places already desolate and forgotten, with some of them still in use, but already whispering their death rattle before they completely die and are used no more. Both American and Russian liminal spaces give me "that" feeling (I REALLY felt these 0:53, 1:43, 1:58 and 2:14 Russian ones). A thing to note - these spaces might seem sadder to people not familiar with such places because there's an assumption that these places are close to abandonement, not in use, or haunted. American liminal spaces focus more on the "There are people usually here, but it's after hours and I'm the only one here"-type of vibe.
woah I’m really glad to see a bunch of Russian-Americans here :0!! I’m belarussian-American and my mom is an immigrant, even though I wasnt familiar with most of these images, a couple of them definitely reminded me of my grandma and uncle’s apartment and the street my great-grandma currently lives in :)! It’s really cool to see a bunch of ppl here who feel the same
Fellow first-gen Russian-American here, I spent most of my early childhood in America but spent the summers in St Petersburg, up until I was about 12. Some of these things fit so well for me, because of my younger age, but there’s other things I’ve seen that aren’t quite the same style as this video that would bring me to tears with nostalgia. Smells, sounds, the street vendors’ creme brûlée icecream... and the doors on those panel flats, and the stairs! The photo of the decrepit elevator really hit me. I can think of some places that would be liminal for me; the back of this one shopping center near the end of the red line, and the metro stairs right by it. Man, now I’m sad...
As a native Californian who was born in 1980, and spent loads of weekends at a shopping mall--and even had a Chuck E. Cheese birthday party when I turned two--I agree with what you point out: The liminal space aesthetic DOES seem to have a predominantly American take to it. And I'm sure that people who didn't grow up with it the way I did WOULD have difficulty relating to that particular view. Thank you for offering us all a different lens to view it through; it was fascinating, and I really enjoyed it! I hope you don't mind my adding it to a Halloween-related aesthetic playlist (it's set to Public, so you can go and see what I've put it with, and decide for yourself if this is alright with you). Thanks again!
Happy to hear I could inspire that kind of further thought :) and I don't mind about the playlist, part of this video's purpose is to share these concepts/disseminations of liminal space with everyone, so go right ahead!!
i was born in Russia in 1995, then moved to another country. this video made me cry, i really miss my homeland, i miss my grandparents and every corner of russia in the 2000s
I am bulgarian and i couldnt relate to the popular "liminal spaces"and i think thats because theyre mostly american places. Ive never been to places like that only seen them in american films so i diddnt understand what people meant when they talk about the feelings those images bring them.. But with the places in this video its different i totally get it now. Even though im not russian i think most eastern european countries are similiar in the way they look and the general feeling that is connected to them because those places all felt so familiar despite the fact that ive never been there specifically. Thank you for this video even though it made me a little sad. lol
As a Romanian I can confidently say I've been into so many of these similar abandoned places be it alone or with my friends and now I get and incredibly strong sense of nostalgia for any sort of eastern European/Slavic architecture or buildings. Great vid
@@adjieluhur3356 Actually it's not so bad. Most of my childhood I spent in a house that was built in USSR. Every time I see them I feel warm and nostalgic. Those buildings (even if some of them are in a bad condition) looks much better than many modern 24 floors building colored in all colors of rainbow. They are all grey, but minimalistic and simple. In addition, in summer they all covered in trees, wich looks beautifull.
the difference between american liminal spaces and eastern european ones is that the former’s “soul” was the people that inhabited it; without them, the space feels empty, artificial, too sterilized. eastern european liminal spaces, on the other hand, are more about the death of those places’ “soul”. you can still feel it, it’s there, reaching out and longing for a world that is no more.
Complete Moscovite speaking here. I once had to travel to Nizhniy Novgorod to do an exam, and while passing a few rundown, dilapidated buildings, I had the same feelings as this video evokes -- grief, mixed with melancholy. Not rarely do I read articles on the state of life in rural Russia, basically everything outside Moscow, and just feel this deep, sorrowful dread. Basically, they always have the same images in the articles as plenty of stuff shown here -- archaic buildings, old Soviet-era TVs, etc. It's always this feeling of a forgotten hope for a better future -- one I get while thinking about early 2000's. The good and new, ruined by corruption and an incompetent government. The thing is, the eeriness of American liminal spaces is the fact that everything looks too new, and that you're completely alone, maybe even not completely -- but here, it's just grief and sadness of abandonment. These buildings were the places of some people's childhood, and seeing them in this sorry state is just a gutpunch. В любом случае, благодарю за качественное видео. В том же духе!
Having grown up in the American suburbs myself, I can't relate to these images as much as I do to others, but it was really nice to get a change of pace and see something new. These liminal spaces and the background song are great by the way!
I'm from Iceland and the one at 0:43 reminds me of the school plays I was forced to act in/watch in elementary during the winter right before CHristmas break, it's pretty nostalgic.
someone with knowledge of the collapse of soviet Russia here. The fact that the images shows old and decaying rooms/buildings from the Soviet times reflects the historical context of 90s russia and shows the decaying yet fresh ruins and vestiges of a now fallen era.
these make me feel comfy for some reason as a latvian, many of these pics are relatable cause the country is still filled with abandoned-looking spaces. I'm used to them, I guess
This reminds me of those old apartments in Kaunas, Lithuania. Even though I grew up most of my life in western Europe, there is something so sad and nostalgic about seeing these decaying soviet-era structures
i'm mexican so i can't relate to the "american" version or this one, however i can still feel a little bit of nostalgic thanks to the media, i've been searching for a latinoamerican version, but i haven't found it. Anyways, great job! :)
aitana O. Same man it seems that all but this one are American, I’m from the UK and whilst some of our architecture shares some similarities to both the American and Russian ones, it’s not enough to give me the feeling that everyone talks about. There’s just not enough familiarity for it to feel slightly off, it’s just too different from what I’ve experienced. Here’s hoping this trend will get bigger and we’ll both get a version we can relate too.
I'm from Tbilisi, Georgia, & these all felt so familiar. That last one really hit me too, it looked so similar to the small bedroom full of old furniture/tv/bookshelves that my 90+ year old great aunts that were sisters spent most of their time in when I would visit in my childhood. It definitely gave me very eerie vibes knowing other people have a similar memory.
This video make my mind go crazy, i was making up stories in my head about what happened and here's one of them; (a TV ad) A completely new world has been created, you (Yes you!) can completely start over, forget about that annoying boss you had, forget about the debt you where in, start over! you get a randomly generated home and family! Everything is perfect! its ideal for your new family! *TV turns off and the camera (your view) zooms out and you see the "perfect dream world" abandoned just like the photos, the camera continues to zoom out while the background music from the video fades in, you hear the TV in the distance while the ad narrators voice glitches with the old TV, and your view slowly fades into darkness... This artificial world is left to be abandoned as it slowly fades from your memory, and from existence. It still has a special place in the depth of your memory but it gets more and more lost as time goes on. sorry i'm bad at explaining but that's kind of one of the story's i thought of lol, hope you enjoyed.
As a guy from postsoviet slavic country Czech Republic I just don't feel anything over these pictures, they just feel normal. The american ones, even tho I was never in some places that looked like them feel so much weirder for me because I never even seen them in working shape.
This just further enforces the fact that American architecture sucks. The fact that these spaces are so mundane to Russians that they produce an uncanny feeling despite the fact that to me they're all beautifully designed and breathtaking despite their rundown appearance just makes me wish American architects were less utilitarian and actually bothered to make average, everyday spaces look visually appealing.
Amen to that. I've seen """"Modernizations"""" of houses that just completely sucked the soul out of it and turned it into a depressing Wage Cage. Death to architectural minimalism!
It should be pointed out that this lineup here hits harder for the Gen X-ers among the post-soviet republics. Most liminal space lineups are targeted at US zoomers and millenials, but this architecture here hits you much harder if you're a late 70s or early 80s kid. I'm Russian myself and, as some other comments point out, to me, there's nothing liminal about these pictures. I've seen places like this, and they were just as abandoned. If you're born in the late 90s or early 00s, most of the world around you would look just like these. Most of these are interiors of grand soviet buildings of which you'd find 4 or 5 in a mid-sized city. Move further to a generation that spent less time in these institutions, and you'll find their liminal spaces are the ubiqutous depressing 5 story panel buildings, pothole filled communal yards and gloomy, deprecated roads leading to and out of forested schools, covered in sparsely attached tile and mosaics from decades ago. Think 1:17 or 2:23. I'm 24 and most of the architecture in minute 1 is a distant, long forgotten memory now - I never got used to this architecture to the point that it could achieve this liminal quality.
@@ExValeFor It makes one wonder what the liminal spaces are for other parts other world. What's a liminal space look like for the English or the Japanese? Is it as dependent on generation as it is for us?
Oh nonono, I think you are wrong my friend, I'll say that to you as a Russian - don't confuse Soviet classicism (Stalin's empire style) and modern Russian architecture. Just search "Russian suburbia" and "Russian mall" or "pyaterochka" and you'll get what I mean. I personally adore cute American suburbian houses, your red brick historic buildings in Massachusetts, and Industrial-era buildings in New York, mid-century modern of the 50s. Utilitarian style is also very nice when it's correctly used.
I love all these. I am from the US, and so I can relate to those liminal spaces, but whereas they are uncanny for being sort of sterile, or soulless, these post-soviet spaces clearly have soul. Abandoned US office spaces and hallways and shopping malls almost seem designed to be uninhabited, whereas these spaces clearly have a soul, have character, and that soul calls out to lived in. The creeping vines and rotting paint, and us here are all that answer.
As an American these images make me feel something that I can't exactly put my finger on. The closest word I can describe it as is fascination, perhaps coming from the fact that I've been fascinated with the Cold War era and have simply never been to Eastern Europe. I feel as though I am exploring, looking at the wall of characters and saying "hey! there's Cheburushka and Winnie the Pooh!". Going through all these places and wondering who has lived those rooms, wondering who spent time in that wooden cabin in the forest, etc. Here we see images of places where someone's grandparents may have shopped or spent their leisure time, as well as where they and their grandkids may have lived. Many of us, especially in the United States, don't think of that when we learn about the Soviet Union. I think many of us just see this large battle between two world superpowers and the aftermath.
As a Ukrainian I do relate to quite a lot of these images, and yet I feel like there's just some differences I'd imagine between Ukrainian liminal spaces and Russian ones. It's hard to put in words, it feels like I relate to this more than American liminal spaces but it lacks any uniquely Ukrainian places... Maybe I'm just too young to be as deeply touched by some of these as others, though.
@@emmaknopa I guess an abandoned sign would do, but first thing that comes to mind are markets or trading halls or whatever you call them - bazar. Also there are a lot of crop fields. But mostly yeah, really ugly, abandoned and broken soviet buildings are one thing in common.
i was about to cry before i watched this and now i am crying. im russian and this just. this song reminds me about the time when we were going to go to my grandma's house to celebrate the new year. i am away from home now and this really made me very sad.
I'm Russian, and even though American liminal places do sometimes make me feel this weird nostalgia, I reckon it's cause some of the architectural choices are fairly common in any relatively developed country, especially when it comes to the 90s and early 00s. However, this video... God damn. Half of the places remind me of my childhood, even though the vast majority of the pictures show something more on the Soviet side. I grew up in the 00s, but I still got to visit summer camps that looked like that, I went to a kindergarten with a fairly similar bathroom etc. The interesting thing is, I rarely got to experience this _strong_ nostalgia, those pictures rather _reminded_ of the locations I remember than replicated them. I've seen a lot of comments talking about reincarnation and whatnot, but I feel like it's just your bad memory that tricks you into thinking you've seen these exact places before. Maybe I'll get it when I'm older. Ig it's easier to go back to your childhood when you're only 18
American viewer here. As someone whose family comes from Puerto Rico, these images remind me of all the trips I've taken there throughout my childhood. What's more is that I never really bothered to fully learn Spanish (My mom and dad were separated, and I mostly lived with my mom who wasn't Puerto Rican), so the music acts as sort of a callback to the Spanish songs I've heard a hundred times, but whose lyrics I never understood. Most images in this video aren't distinctly unamerican, but the few that seem unamerican remind me of settings in Puerto Rico. These images are almost like a glimpse of things that exist in Puerto Rico, but I haven't yet seen. It's as if, if I were to go back there and search every last crevasse of the island, then I'd find the sources of these images. Perhaps it's only because I'm used to going to "foreign" settings that I was able to connect with these images. They don't look familiar, but they do look as if I have a distant memory of exactly one experience with each place. Even if that isn't the case, it feels as though I will see one of these images the next time I go to Puerto Rico.
Very interesting; it would be cool if people from diferent countries posted similar videos showing their take on liminality. For me a big theme of such images is obsolescence, which combined with the fact that they depict things from our youth that elicit nostalgia; points to our own eventual obsolescence, and that of everything else. In any case, if you find more pics that resonate with you, It'd be cool to see them in a follow-up video.
Очень родные для меня места, так как живу в городе где много таких мест, никакой паники, только ностальгия и печаль от этой серости и понимания что большая часть России такая Песня тоже подобрана правильно и помогает это прочувствовать.
every since a kid ive been especially obsessed with places that look like these. especially the one at 1:54 is like so comforting looks like my hometown
While the American ones are often unsettling but nostalgic, many of these have a deep, ineffable sorrow to them. Like something that was once filled with life and happiness, only to be abandoned to decay. I think a big part of this might be the music, but it's still very interesting nonetheless.
I could swear I have been all of the places in this video... it's making me remember going to operas, my childhood dance recitals, seeing the world from my mother's knee-height. The typical American liminal space photos never did much for me, but these ones... oof. Thank you for making this.
Personally i find these abandoned post soviet buildings quite interesting as it is like ruins of an old fallen empire to me, except the fall only happened like in the last 30 years. Great to see stuff that i would never imagine existing in my time.
I am Brazilian and TBH, I find Americal liminal spaces creepy but not nostalgic and Russian Liminal Spaces melancholic,although the darker ones are creepy. I mean, I cannot feel as if a monster will come from most of your photos. Maybe I don't have a great sense of anemoia.
I am mexican, and I can say that this spaces are scarier than the american ones. I feel more related to the american ones that show a comercial space, like a mall, an office or a playground because we usually try to imitate americans in those aspects, but I don't feel related to the images of habitable places like houses because we construct them very diferently, also their furniture is different.
I am midwestern american and when I look at these I feel nostalgic as if I'm playing STALKER or Outlast, does not strike the same chord as the other videos, very nice.
The differences between the popular American liminal spaces and your Russian ones are the sterility and commodity-quality of the American ones. North America was not built with intent beyond simple function, and there is very little in terms of classical design in. The aesthetics here are new, there is no real culture beyond consumption and capital. When one fad or franchise dies, another takes over just as fast and erases the past from everything but the memory of those who bore witness to the original state of things... And even then it is so easy to forget, when design and culture have such a high turnover rate. The Russian and Soviet images here depict spaces with intentional and purposeful design, design that stems from history and culture of the people these places were created to serve. Your images have humanity. I can imagine the activity and life that once existed in these places. In the North American photos, there's no such thing.
this is really interesting. seeing how every country has a different experience about the same image. i wish an iberian would do this, as we’re slightly a mix from both the american and the russian version in our own way i’d say
I'm not russian but these pictures still give me a strong creepy nostalgic vibe, growing up in a poor gloomy town in the USA, and being fascinated by chernobyl and old haunted buildings probably is what contributes to the feeling. I also use to have constant dreams about being alone in abandoned dark buildings similar to these photos, it really is strange.
Absolutely love this slideshow. It's eerie and nostalgic at the same time. My only complaint is that the images change too quickly. I found myself pausing at every photograph. Don't be afraid to leave the image longer for the viewer to explore it. 10 seconds would be just about right. I hope you'll do a part 2 in the future.
I may do a part two! For now, I have a link of extra images I didn't include in the final video linked in the description. Glad you liked my slideshow :)
I had to watch this at 0.5 speed to better see the photos and the deep singing voice in the background singing extra slowly made it much more... sad, nostalgic, or whatever it is liminal spaces makes us feel ! Makes sense, I guess we feel uncomfortable because this places talk of life the is no more, of how time slooowly but surely forgets.
The song really added to the nostalgia and sadness, especially because you remember the movie it's from and there the buildings and everything isn't broken yet but then you see how time went by..
These pictures make me feel awful for the Russian citizenry because you would think Russia was struggling to recover from an alien invasion based on all these pictures. I guess in a way, it has felt like that for decades, if not centuries based on it's history.
I am an American and feel that sense of "nostalgia" in quite a few of those photos. Like that is some architecture in me town. Also most do that for me, and the music just makes it
I'm Romanian and I think the American version has an uncanny vibe to it. But this is much more. This actually made me feel a burning sensation in my heart. These actually made me feel nostalgic.
0:44 это заброшенный цирк в Кишиневе, Молдове, в котором я часто бывала в детстве и каталась на штуке подымающей тебя до купола, а потом резко спускающей вниз. Да уже, вот это попадание в точку так попадание.
Первые пять и седьмая подходят под "определение". Остальные - просто набор рухляди. Нужное ощущение дискомфорта возникает только в определённых случаях, либо при повторяющемся узоре, как на фото 1 (стена) и 7 (потолок), либо при плохом освещении определённых участков, как в актовом зале, либо при общем непонимании назначения самого места и его элементов (некоторые последние фото непонятных гостинных в административном здании, которые "зачем и почему"), либо просто за счёт "зловещей долины", когда попытка реалистично изобразить что-то природное почти удаётся.
it's weird how some of these places are where I spend my time, just old. the thought that places I spend hours and days in might get old or even be destroyed before that happens hurts me. some of these places I felt like I've explored with my best friend when I was 11. I'm not russian but man this feels a lot closer than the American spaces.
I got to say, some of them get to me. Only becuase the architecture is so wild, the question of why a space like it exists is something that I find interesting.
I’m American and got recommended this after watching several liminal spaces videos. I think the difference is that the American videos and places are like 1:51 (small to medium size, personal, still used) and the Russian places are variations of 0:45 (large public spaces, years since abandoned, may have quite a history). Thanks.
Это такое приятное видео , когда я его смотрела я испытывала чувство ностальгии по прошлому . Такое чувство будто я снова маленькая , иду с мамой зимой к её подруге , на мне большой, тёплый шарф . Я поднимаю голову , и в свете одного жёлтого фонаря, я вижу как танцует падающий снег .
Окей, здесь и так довольно много комментариев и разных теорий о том, почему же русские лиминальные пространства так сильно отличаются от русских, но мне просто хочется выразить свою теорию. Все фотографии в этом видео -- заброшенные, старые и разрушенные места из эпохи Совесткого Союза. Лиминальные пространства в Америке же являются другими -- это места, в которых просто нет людей или оборудования. В примере Solar Sands были показаны фотографии разных заброшенных мест, но в отличии от русских, они сохранились ОЧЕНЬ хорошо. В частности Тако Белл, или же фотография стола с двумя синими стульями. На фото комната будто бы совсем новая, но построена она была в 80-90х годах. Американские пространства более "загадочные". Это будто просто обычные комнаты, из которых на секунду исчезли все люди. Русские -- просто старые, пыльные руины. И всё. Как говорят большинство людей в комментах, эти фотографии более грустные, чем странные.
I grew up in America but my mom is from Russia so I have visited my Russian relatives before, these bring back hazy memories for me, a lot of these look like rundown versions of where my Aunt and cousin lived and some of these brought me back to all the places and shows I was taken to when staying with them, especially the second location shown. And I must’ve seen something like that little log house, it reminds me of Baba Yaga but I’m sure I’ve seen something like it in real life
My mom was born in Moscow in 1970, and spent her life in and around Moscow until 2002. She could relate to most of these images. Here's what she had to say:
0:29: didn't say anything
0:32: She remembers this being typical of a concert hall or maybe a movie theatre in her day.
0:35: didn't say anything
0:38: This is the same building as at 0:32.
0:41: She remembers this as the stage for a community hall or a school, if the school had a stage. Her school didn't have a stage, but she knows other ones did.
0:44: Couldn't put her finger on it, but related it to something like a circus.
0:47: Very typical pattern in Soviet times, not only on ceilings like this, but also on concrete walls.
0:50: didn't say anything
0:53: didn't say anything
0:56: This is likely the same room as the stage at 0:41, it's not super nostalgic to her.
0:59: didn't say anything
1:02: didn't say anything
1:05: These were old Soviet cartoon characters, she doesn't remember art like this anywhere, but she distinctly remembers the characters.
1:08: This is the house of old Russian nobility, before the Soviet era (landlords and such).
1:11: Said she doesn't recognize it at all.
1:14: didn't say anything
1:17: This is every single 5 story apartment building in Russia, especially in smaller towns. She remembers it clearly.
1:20: An old Soviet telephone center, where calls would be directed by workers.
1:23: This is a specific restaurant from an old Soviet comedy movie she can't remember the name of.
1:26: didn't say anything
1:29: She remembers this as old communal apartments, where an apartment would have about 10-15 bedrooms and hold random people. She said it wasn't a great place to be in.
1:32: Doesn't recognize it.
1:35: The sign says "Eatery" or something of that sort, and it was at an old children's summer camp. There were a lot of these being abandoned after the fall of the USSR.
1:38: The bathroom at a similar children's summer camp.
1:41: She didn't recognize this one.
1:44: Brezhnev-era apartment buildings that are still all over Russia.
1:47: didn't say anything
1:50: Very typical living room for people living in apartment buildings.
1:53: didn't say anything
1:56: This is the coat room from her school.
1:59: She didn't really recognize this one.
2:02: This one was very hard to pin down, she couldn't figure out the purpose of the building, but knew it was from about the 1930's.
2:05: "Haha, Baba Yaga."
2:08: A 1930's era apartment. These elevators weren't just commonplace in these buildings, but she's also seen them in buildings in Paris.
2:11: this one's actually a duplicate image from earlier in the video
2:14: This image brought up a lot of bad memories. When the Soviet Union fell in 1991, food was extremely hard to come by for a few months. She would walk around her area and look around 6 or 7 different grocery stores, looking to buy something, anything to feed her and my sister (born August 1991). Sometimes they would go home empty handed. She also told a story of when my sister was little, how she would confuse the words road (Дорога, Doroga) and store (магазин, magazin), and once said, after looking into the street from their apartment: "The store is dark!" because my mom had been walking with her all day to a bunch of stores, trying to find some food. I'm personally glad I was born much later, I wouldn't want to have suffered the way she did.
2:17: Old university dorm rooms.
2:20: didn't say anything
2:23: Something like a movie theatre.
2:26: An apartment of someone who was financially well-off.
This video really does the memories of those who lived in the late and post Soviet era justice. I could tell it was really running her mind.
Thanks so much for sharing!!! Я рада что вы узнали эти места :)
Thanks for sharing some of your mom's stories about her time on the Soviet era.
"haha baba yaga"
-ops mom, 2021
This is amazing! thanks for sharing !!
2:05 theres a fairy tale in russia about the old woman yaga, who lives in a house on chicken legs
and flies in a mortar
American Solar Sands viewer here! Most of the "american" liminal spaces just feel like fads long forgotten and moved on from to newer fads. This russian one makes me feel so much more sad. Like there was a dream for a better world but it ended up being cancelled and forgotten and left to decay.
This is what I feel Everytime I see a decaying soviet-era building
Exactly. Hits me every time. It's just this feeling of grief... Not for past reality, but for the hope we all had. These buildings had a purpose that is lost now.
Lol, Russian Solar Sands viewer here
not a historian here, but I think that's exactly what happened, isn't it?
@@lightspeedlife8299 I think you're right
I'm not Russian, but I grew up in northern Europe, and this feels alot more familiar than the American ones lol
@Ilmur Ösp I’m from western/Southern Europe And I can agree, as it’s pretty nostalgic.. Probably Because we all share similar cultures
Makes sense. This hits me hard as well.
Eastern Europe here ✌🏻
I wonder why🤔
Same
Тут нужно больше детских площадок, фотографий школьных коридоров и классов
Woodland elf я русский и жил большую часть жизни в России но американские лиминальные места больше криповые мне
@@lilobungus1572 согласна, но они вызывают у тебя ностальгию? Они выглядят знакомыми? Я жила в США до 6ти лет, хочу чтобы были такие же видео с русскими местами
Я когда увидела раздевалку школьную и всегда будет солнце прямо сердце заныло
Woodland elf ну не знаю может только некоторые
@@lilobungus1572 в США криповее, потому что там эта тема давно форсится, и подключились рукастые люди с фотошопом. Ещё были подборки по фобиям (например hylophobia) с расслабляющий музыкой которые имели в себе такие-же ощущения.
Вообще liminal space стартанул как Крипипаста backrooms, куда поподали из затекстурия. Это была обычная Крипипаста.
Есть liminal spaces где что-то не так, или там какое-то существо. Это уже ближе к cursed images и Тревору Хендерсону.
As a romanian person this really hit home as we were also a communist country and we have many of these post-soviet abandoned places in our country that i can actually relate to much more than to the american ones. great vid
The American ones are unsettling, this is just nostalgic
Da exact!! Pt mn si unele dintre pozele americane mi se par familiare pentru ca am copilărit pe internet cu multă influență americană, dar în retrospectivă tot ce ai spus este ff adevărat mai ales pentru români. Also I didn't think I'd find Romanian ppl who know about this omg
@@bebelusica well you did :)
also romanian, the one at 1:17 is really nostalgic
@@bebelusica nici eu nu m-am gandit ca gasesc romani pe aici :)))
"Black spot censored mark" was rather disturbing and scary than useful...
That's the point
It's just a candle burn, what are you talking about?
@@archivushka *a conveniently placed and photographically pure imitation of a candle burn
A lot of what makes liminal spaces feel liminal is the lack of people so ig the candle burns were edited there to cover the people’s faces so they didn’t feel like actual people were there or something aha.. also it makes it look like straight up oddcore imo
When I saw those black spots, I feel like this is some sort of unknown, ghostly energy that makes me feel unnerved.
I’m curious to see the liminal spaces from other countries now tbh
Me too especially Canada
Yesss im australian so i wanna find some for my country
I searched one for south asia, unable to find
@@CoolJude canada is probs american mixed with british
check out the brazillian ones
Заметил интересную особенность. Как человек, родившийся в самом конце девяностых и выросший в нулевые, я не нахожу большую часть этих изображений некомфортными. Скорее всего из-за того, что в годы моего детства то, что осталось от СССР уже было в таком состоянии - брошенном, разваленном, засоренном, разграбленном. Фотографии, где советские места, напротив, в более целостном виде, кажутся мне куда более некомфортными - потому что в своей жизни я не видел их в таком состоянии.
ДА соглы. Но все же советские фото аккуратных улиц (и обязательно в таких подборках одна-две фотки обязаны быть рядом с цветущими маками, почему-то, да да вот эти) -- это как бы вывернутый наизнанку концепт лиминального пространства, т.е. фото всё ещё цепляют глаз но не как оригинальные видео формата pictures that feel familiar, и пугать тоже не пугают. По крайней мере меня -- может, только меня, но что я вижу в данном видео -- довольно дословное переложение мема на наши реалии, с хоррорными клише.
По-моему что очень влияет на весь концепт -- это американский дизайн 80-00х: нежные тона, эдакая утопичность, монотонность. Может быть, даже складывается настораживающий консьюмеристский миф, как в случае с частью вейпорвейва. Опять же есть разница с постсоветской средой.
Рамки liminal spaces-движухи (вроде бы) размыты и субъективны, непонятно, на какие именно чувства это должно давить и как. Странная смесь воспоминаний и добавленной тревожности
Вообще основную роль играет был ли там когда-нибудь, и умножается на насколько давно ты там был. Например гос здание, может пансионат или дом отдыха, или просто старый город на перегоне вмежду столицами. Парки и детские площадки с постройками космической тематики добавляют больше ощущения, потому-что вы там были.
Captain Akamar Я родился в двухтысячных и для меня кажутся некоторые из этих фотографий такими, будто я их видел раньше, что вызывает неизвестную тревогу. Как мне кажется, то такие эмоции вызывает тот факт, что советские квартиры напоминают о внутренней архитектуре дома/квартиры тех же бабушек и дедушек. Или та же самая картинка школы или спортзала должна вызывать у человека такое чувство, будто он там был, конечно же, если и обучался/учится в пост-советской школе.
Труу
Чувак, музыка, в ней всё дело, поставь музыку порезче и страшнее, будет страшнее
Мне и от подборок с американскими местами не жутко, так что ваще спорная тема
I'm neither American nor Russian but the American liminal spaces focused more on early modern architecture from the 70's onwards along with bad lighting, from being old photos (or manipulated to look as such) and an uncanny lifeless context, which I personally find both weird in the nerves because I actually don't like how the place looks and amusing because of the kooky 70's/80's/90's vibes of the design. This Russian one, so far I've seen, actually made me sad, especially with the ones that were more Soviet, likely designed during a shift from the monarch to the revolution era. I am a sucker for very classical design and regardless of the period, I can see that the engineers and designers put more aesthetic thought behind these places, so seeing it as decrepit and abandoned makes me yearn for its renovation.
This is very similar to my relationship to these images
also the fact the fact that those images comes from the 90s reflects the historical context of post soviet Russia. fresh ruins of a now fallen era.
This, I'm Canadian and therefore have the exact same architecture as the American ones in my memories, those ones have the sort of uncomfortable vibe of something that's too clean and harshly lit, whereas with these soviet ones, especially the more monarch era ones, I very much like the design of them and find myself actually wanting to go there and just sit down and look at the scenery. Even if that would probably give me several mold based diseases.
@@Kyuschi same for me, but this is more about anemoia and curiosity than liminality for north americans like us
Thank you. I couldn't relate to the American ones a lot and couldn't experience the feeling everyone was talking about. This helped me understand and I got goosebumps
Yeah I thought there was a need for this kind of collection after realizing that the internet's concept of liminal space didn't do much for me; I spent a large portion of my childhood in Russia and my concept of liminality is different
Hey can you explain the feeling which you felt, I'm also from post-soviet country, but I don't understand what I should be feeling :(
@@NeoLiyaPage liminal spaces are places that are somehow "wrong" to the brain. Like seeing an empty playground at night-- your brain is used to seeing playgrounds with children, and usually during the day. When this context is disrupted, it creates a liminal space and a weird feeling. It can also be triggered by seeing things vaguely familiar. Although liminal space isn't by definition related to nostalgia, much of online liminal space images showcase this in some way. You see a place (for example, the image with the concrete apartment staircase typical in many Soviet housing buildings) that looks very very familiar, and you're weirded out-- how can this image I didn't photograph and haven't been to be so familiar? My video combines these two ideas; Soviet familiarity with unnerving setting. I would describe the feeling as melancholy, unnerving, confusing, creepy. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what to tell you if you don't feel it. Perhaps you could find something more familiar to your own life.
I am Polish (although I partially spent my childhood outside of Poland), and it's interesting to see the contrast the kinds of things that impact me, that impact Americans and those that impact you.
The images that I found the most "relatable" is 1:17, it looks very similar to how I remember the corridors of most flats in my area; rather ran down and with the occasional graffiti. The images at 1:50 and 2:26 also seem to me very familiar, reminding me of the type of furniture I would find in the houses of my grandparents and great-grandparents.
east german here, feels very simmilar to my area aswell, especially the abandoned military-ish looking places, the panel flats, and the furniture (especially the big wall shelf, those were really common and still are pretty common here)
Lots of those places look like the ones I've been to on cheap vacations in Poland as a child
same !! grew up in croatia and i feel connected to both these and the american ones
Those all hit home for me the most too. Almost identical to places I have been
Te paprocie u babci
Глядя на эти фото, ощущаешь не дискомфорт, а грусть и досаду. Грустно видеть места, где люди жили, провели детство, в таком плачевном состоянии. Наследние ушедшей эпохи, которое не смогли сохранить. Сдается мне, иностранцы, смотря на подборки своих лиминальных пространств, такого не чувствуют. В зарубежных подборках эти места такие чистенькие, хоть и не всегда современные
Мы все живём на руинах некоего великого древнего, почти сказочного государства, и все наблюдаем следы ушедшей эпохи.
Это видео вызывает не настальгию или что-то такое, а прям тяжёлую и тягучую тоску... и такую пустоту в душе, что ты просто сидишь и смотришь не думая ниочём...
*American Liminal Spaces* = A place where everything is all empty with a uncanny or nostalgic context, but that doesn't mean that humans left there, they still come back for a purpose.
*Soviet Russian Liminal Space* = A place full of tragedy and decay to the point of becoming forgotten by humans, but it still has the beauty that once they had.
*Me, reacting to Liminal Spaces:* _WHAT KIND OF PLACE IS THIS?!!!_
Родилась в начале 2000-х, ностальгию в плане детства многие фото не передают, просто глубокую тоску. Я не была в этих местах, но есть какое то культурное эхо, будто из прошлой жизни. Некоторые школьные фотографии работают как надо, дискомфорт того что тут что-то не так. Особенно сцена в актовом зале, прямо мурашки. Другие же... Они незнакомы, но на каком-то базовом уровне очень родны, странно искажены что-ли...
По той же причине вот эта ruclips.net/video/OyqLZnox2Y8/видео.html
польская подборка нравится мне куда больше.
I'm russian. This made me cry for so many reasons.
Стоп, у вас случайно не Каска на аватарке?
И вдобавок да, мне тоже не особо весело от этого видео.
@@SprazzyGazoozle она самая
i'm not russian but this made me nearly cry too
Понимаю. Мне жаль.
Многие места в слишком плачевном состоянии и воспринимаются как обычная заброшка, нежели что-то переходное.
Кому как
this drives home the fact that the sense of haunted nostalgia that comes with this is...culture specific. these dont give me the same feeling most of these videos do. instead of being terrifyingly familiar, it is unfamiliar and mysterious, creating a different form of unease.
I'm really obsessed with this type of Russian photography. Or slavic in general honestly. It's not ingenuine for the purpose of scare, it's a marking of history and hardships. Not necessarily Russia, but I also really do find Chernobyl images to be spine-chilling. There's something about these abandoned buildings and other public places once filled with people to be empty and worn down that peaks my interest.
As a Russian, I would to remind you not to overromanticise Russian poverty , just in case
As a Russian-American and a child of immigrants from the former Soviet Union, this video brought a fresh, different perspective on liminal spaces that I really appreciate. I've felt that feeling of familiarity that most people describe when watching more American-focused liminal space videos, because I've spent most of my life in the United States, but this video also hit close to home - especially the images at 1:17, 1:29, 2:08, and 2:26. They remind me of my extended family's flats in Russia. And the ruin of the Soviet-era buildings evoke this deep, deep sadness and longing in me for a future that never happened. In American-focused liminal space videos, I mostly feel a kind of pleasant nostalgia, like an "oh! I've seen this place before" or even a somewhat scornful recognition, like shallow trends created fast, then abandoned faster. Russian liminal spaces make me feel a kind of grief - what could have been, but never was. I believed in the bright future that the Soviet Union imagined once, too. Just like my parents, and everyone before them.
Anyways great video I loved it :D
I am also Russian-American and a child of immigrants. This video was made for people like you and I :) and I agree with you about a future that never was. That's what it feels like to be in a post-Soviet country-- decaying infrastructure everywhere, shadows of a dream. I think the part of my childhood spent in Russia really makes me appreciate abandoned things more, in general. (SLIGHT SPOILERS FOR CASTLE IN THE SKY) If you've seen castle in the sky, I get the same feeling when they visit Laputa. A giant, advanced civilization in ruins.
YESSS where my Russian-American kids at? Anyways, I ended up moving TO Russia at 3-4 years old in the early 2000s, and found most of these places already desolate and forgotten, with some of them still in use, but already whispering their death rattle before they completely die and are used no more. Both American and Russian liminal spaces give me "that" feeling (I REALLY felt these 0:53, 1:43, 1:58 and 2:14 Russian ones). A thing to note - these spaces might seem sadder to people not familiar with such places because there's an assumption that these places are close to abandonement, not in use, or haunted. American liminal spaces focus more on the "There are people usually here, but it's after hours and I'm the only one here"-type of vibe.
woah I’m really glad to see a bunch of Russian-Americans here :0!! I’m belarussian-American and my mom is an immigrant, even though I wasnt familiar with most of these images, a couple of them definitely reminded me of my grandma and uncle’s apartment and the street my great-grandma currently lives in :)! It’s really cool to see a bunch of ppl here who feel the same
Fellow first-gen Russian-American here, I spent most of my early childhood in America but spent the summers in St Petersburg, up until I was about 12. Some of these things fit so well for me, because of my younger age, but there’s other things I’ve seen that aren’t quite the same style as this video that would bring me to tears with nostalgia. Smells, sounds, the street vendors’ creme brûlée icecream... and the doors on those panel flats, and the stairs! The photo of the decrepit elevator really hit me. I can think of some places that would be liminal for me; the back of this one shopping center near the end of the red line, and the metro stairs right by it. Man, now I’m sad...
As a native Californian who was born in 1980, and spent loads of weekends at a shopping mall--and even had a Chuck E. Cheese birthday party when I turned two--I agree with what you point out: The liminal space aesthetic DOES seem to have a predominantly American take to it. And I'm sure that people who didn't grow up with it the way I did WOULD have difficulty relating to that particular view.
Thank you for offering us all a different lens to view it through; it was fascinating, and I really enjoyed it! I hope you don't mind my adding it to a Halloween-related aesthetic playlist (it's set to Public, so you can go and see what I've put it with, and decide for yourself if this is alright with you). Thanks again!
Happy to hear I could inspire that kind of further thought :) and I don't mind about the playlist, part of this video's purpose is to share these concepts/disseminations of liminal space with everyone, so go right ahead!!
i was born in Russia in 1995, then moved to another country. this video made me cry, i really miss my homeland, i miss my grandparents and every corner of russia in the 2000s
I am bulgarian and i couldnt relate to the popular "liminal spaces"and i think thats because theyre mostly american places. Ive never been to places like that only seen them in american films so i diddnt understand what people meant when they talk about the feelings those images bring them.. But with the places in this video its different i totally get it now. Even though im not russian i think most eastern european countries are similiar in the way they look and the general feeling that is connected to them because those places all felt so familiar despite the fact that ive never been there specifically. Thank you for this video even though it made me a little sad. lol
I am glad it made you sad, that is partially the point :)
post-soviet kids be tripin down here
As a Romanian I can confidently say I've been into so many of these similar abandoned places be it alone or with my friends and now I get and incredibly strong sense of nostalgia for any sort of eastern European/Slavic architecture or buildings.
Great vid
2:23 70% of Russia looks like this
Thats depressing tbh
@@adjieluhur3356 Actually it's not so bad. Most of my childhood I spent in a house that was built in USSR. Every time I see them I feel warm and nostalgic. Those buildings (even if some of them are in a bad condition) looks much better than many modern 24 floors building colored in all colors of rainbow. They are all grey, but minimalistic and simple. In addition, in summer they all covered in trees, wich looks beautifull.
@@kratnoe228 well good for you then if it makes you comfortable
the difference between american liminal spaces and eastern european ones is that the former’s “soul” was the people that inhabited it; without them, the space feels empty, artificial, too sterilized. eastern european liminal spaces, on the other hand, are more about the death of those places’ “soul”. you can still feel it, it’s there, reaching out and longing for a world that is no more.
Complete Moscovite speaking here.
I once had to travel to Nizhniy Novgorod to do an exam, and while passing a few rundown, dilapidated buildings, I had the same feelings as this video evokes -- grief, mixed with melancholy.
Not rarely do I read articles on the state of life in rural Russia, basically everything outside Moscow, and just feel this deep, sorrowful dread. Basically, they always have the same images in the articles as plenty of stuff shown here -- archaic buildings, old Soviet-era TVs, etc.
It's always this feeling of a forgotten hope for a better future -- one I get while thinking about early 2000's. The good and new, ruined by corruption and an incompetent government.
The thing is, the eeriness of American liminal spaces is the fact that everything looks too new, and that you're completely alone, maybe even not completely -- but here, it's just grief and sadness of abandonment. These buildings were the places of some people's childhood, and seeing them in this sorry state is just a gutpunch.
В любом случае, благодарю за качественное видео. В том же духе!
Мне сразу от этой песни вспомнился фильм "Ирония судьбы или с легким паром"
Having grown up in the American suburbs myself, I can't relate to these images as much as I do to others, but it was really nice to get a change of pace and see something new. These liminal spaces and the background song are great by the way!
I'm from Iceland and the one at 0:43 reminds me of the school plays I was forced to act in/watch in elementary during the winter right before CHristmas break, it's pretty nostalgic.
This is really interesting to see how different nationalities see familiarity differently.
This is just a cultural context. Show all these liminal videos to any Asian person, and he wouldn't feel it as we are.
someone with knowledge of the collapse of soviet Russia here. The fact that the images shows old and decaying rooms/buildings from the Soviet times reflects the historical context of 90s russia and shows the decaying yet fresh ruins and vestiges of a now fallen era.
these make me feel comfy for some reason
as a latvian, many of these pics are relatable cause the country is still filled with abandoned-looking spaces. I'm used to them, I guess
This reminds me of those old apartments in Kaunas, Lithuania. Even though I grew up most of my life in western Europe, there is something so sad and nostalgic about seeing these decaying soviet-era structures
I'm from Vilnius, Lithuania, and I definitely agree..
i'm mexican so i can't relate to the "american" version or this one, however i can still feel a little bit of nostalgic thanks to the media, i've been searching for a latinoamerican version, but i haven't found it. Anyways, great job! :)
aitana O. Same man it seems that all but this one are American, I’m from the UK and whilst some of our architecture shares some similarities to both the American and Russian ones, it’s not enough to give me the feeling that everyone talks about. There’s just not enough familiarity for it to feel slightly off, it’s just too different from what I’ve experienced. Here’s hoping this trend will get bigger and we’ll both get a version we can relate too.
same, I'm from Argentina and i can't seem to find any latinoamerican version of liminal spaces
Liminal spaces from Mexico sounds like it would be pretty cool
I'm from Tbilisi, Georgia, & these all felt so familiar. That last one really hit me too, it looked so similar to the small bedroom full of old furniture/tv/bookshelves that my 90+ year old great aunts that were sisters spent most of their time in when I would visit in my childhood. It definitely gave me very eerie vibes knowing other people have a similar memory.
Пересматривая это видео, я могу сказать, что оно вызывает самое сильное чувство безысходности, которое я могу представить.
This video make my mind go crazy, i was making up stories in my head about what happened and here's one of them;
(a TV ad) A completely new world has been created, you (Yes you!) can completely start over, forget about that annoying boss you had, forget about the debt you where in, start over! you get a randomly generated home and family! Everything is perfect! its ideal for your new family! *TV turns off and the camera (your view) zooms out and you see the "perfect dream world" abandoned just like the photos, the camera continues to zoom out while the background music from the video fades in, you hear the TV in the distance while the ad narrators voice glitches with the old TV, and your view slowly fades into darkness...
This artificial world is left to be abandoned as it slowly fades from your memory, and from existence. It still has a special place in the depth of your memory but it gets more and more lost as time goes on.
sorry i'm bad at explaining but that's kind of one of the story's i thought of lol, hope you enjoyed.
As a guy from postsoviet slavic country Czech Republic I just don't feel anything over these pictures, they just feel normal. The american ones, even tho I was never in some places that looked like them feel so much weirder for me because I never even seen them in working shape.
This just further enforces the fact that American architecture sucks. The fact that these spaces are so mundane to Russians that they produce an uncanny feeling despite the fact that to me they're all beautifully designed and breathtaking despite their rundown appearance just makes me wish American architects were less utilitarian and actually bothered to make average, everyday spaces look visually appealing.
Amen to that. I've seen """"Modernizations"""" of houses that just completely sucked the soul out of it and turned it into a depressing Wage Cage. Death to architectural minimalism!
Agreeable, although things like 1:45 don't seem any better than the American utilitarianism to me
It should be pointed out that this lineup here hits harder for the Gen X-ers among the post-soviet republics. Most liminal space lineups are targeted at US zoomers and millenials, but this architecture here hits you much harder if you're a late 70s or early 80s kid. I'm Russian myself and, as some other comments point out, to me, there's nothing liminal about these pictures. I've seen places like this, and they were just as abandoned. If you're born in the late 90s or early 00s, most of the world around you would look just like these. Most of these are interiors of grand soviet buildings of which you'd find 4 or 5 in a mid-sized city.
Move further to a generation that spent less time in these institutions, and you'll find their liminal spaces are the ubiqutous depressing 5 story panel buildings, pothole filled communal yards and gloomy, deprecated roads leading to and out of forested schools, covered in sparsely attached tile and mosaics from decades ago. Think 1:17 or 2:23. I'm 24 and most of the architecture in minute 1 is a distant, long forgotten memory now - I never got used to this architecture to the point that it could achieve this liminal quality.
@@ExValeFor It makes one wonder what the liminal spaces are for other parts other world. What's a liminal space look like for the English or the Japanese? Is it as dependent on generation as it is for us?
Oh nonono, I think you are wrong my friend, I'll say that to you as a Russian - don't confuse Soviet classicism (Stalin's empire style) and modern Russian architecture. Just search "Russian suburbia" and "Russian mall" or "pyaterochka" and you'll get what I mean. I personally adore cute American suburbian houses, your red brick historic buildings in Massachusetts, and Industrial-era buildings in New York, mid-century modern of the 50s. Utilitarian style is also very nice when it's correctly used.
I love all these. I am from the US, and so I can relate to those liminal spaces, but whereas they are uncanny for being sort of sterile, or soulless, these post-soviet spaces clearly have soul. Abandoned US office spaces and hallways and shopping malls almost seem designed to be uninhabited, whereas these spaces clearly have a soul, have character, and that soul calls out to lived in. The creeping vines and rotting paint, and us here are all that answer.
As an American these images make me feel something that I can't exactly put my finger on. The closest word I can describe it as is fascination, perhaps coming from the fact that I've been fascinated with the Cold War era and have simply never been to Eastern Europe. I feel as though I am exploring, looking at the wall of characters and saying "hey! there's Cheburushka and Winnie the Pooh!". Going through all these places and wondering who has lived those rooms, wondering who spent time in that wooden cabin in the forest, etc. Here we see images of places where someone's grandparents may have shopped or spent their leisure time, as well as where they and their grandkids may have lived. Many of us, especially in the United States, don't think of that when we learn about the Soviet Union. I think many of us just see this large battle between two world superpowers and the aftermath.
those black spots looks very scary af
As a Ukrainian I do relate to quite a lot of these images, and yet I feel like there's just some differences I'd imagine between Ukrainian liminal spaces and Russian ones. It's hard to put in words, it feels like I relate to this more than American liminal spaces but it lacks any uniquely Ukrainian places... Maybe I'm just too young to be as deeply touched by some of these as others, though.
What makes Ukrainian liminal space?
@@emmaknopa I guess an abandoned sign would do, but first thing that comes to mind are markets or trading halls or whatever you call them - bazar. Also there are a lot of crop fields. But mostly yeah, really ugly, abandoned and broken soviet buildings are one thing in common.
same except im from georgia
i was about to cry before i watched this and now i am crying. im russian and this just. this song reminds me about the time when we were going to go to my grandma's house to celebrate the new year. i am away from home now and this really made me very sad.
I'm Russian, and even though American liminal places do sometimes make me feel this weird nostalgia, I reckon it's cause some of the architectural choices are fairly common in any relatively developed country, especially when it comes to the 90s and early 00s. However, this video... God damn.
Half of the places remind me of my childhood, even though the vast majority of the pictures show something more on the Soviet side. I grew up in the 00s, but I still got to visit summer camps that looked like that, I went to a kindergarten with a fairly similar bathroom etc.
The interesting thing is, I rarely got to experience this _strong_ nostalgia, those pictures rather _reminded_ of the locations I remember than replicated them. I've seen a lot of comments talking about reincarnation and whatnot, but I feel like it's just your bad memory that tricks you into thinking you've seen these exact places before.
Maybe I'll get it when I'm older. Ig it's easier to go back to your childhood when you're only 18
2:06 minecraft witch's hut irl confirmed
LittleKreeper Nice comment.
omg you're right
lol
Oh, in russian it "Izbushka na kurinih nojkah", this "person" you can see at russian tales.
Also this witch is "Baba-yaga"
Celebi house! Pokemon gold silver
American viewer here.
As someone whose family comes from Puerto Rico, these images remind me of all the trips I've taken there throughout my childhood. What's more is that I never really bothered to fully learn Spanish (My mom and dad were separated, and I mostly lived with my mom who wasn't Puerto Rican), so the music acts as sort of a callback to the Spanish songs I've heard a hundred times, but whose lyrics I never understood. Most images in this video aren't distinctly unamerican, but the few that seem unamerican remind me of settings in Puerto Rico. These images are almost like a glimpse of things that exist in Puerto Rico, but I haven't yet seen. It's as if, if I were to go back there and search every last crevasse of the island, then I'd find the sources of these images.
Perhaps it's only because I'm used to going to "foreign" settings that I was able to connect with these images. They don't look familiar, but they do look as if I have a distant memory of exactly one experience with each place. Even if that isn't the case, it feels as though I will see one of these images the next time I go to Puerto Rico.
1:29 holy shit babushka scared me-
0:53 this one feels so incredibly sad
2:26 это так похоже на квартиру моей бабушки
Very interesting; it would be cool if people from diferent countries posted similar videos showing their take on liminality. For me a big theme of such images is obsolescence, which combined with the fact that they depict things from our youth that elicit nostalgia; points to our own eventual obsolescence, and that of everything else. In any case, if you find more pics that resonate with you, It'd be cool to see them in a follow-up video.
Очень родные для меня места, так как живу в городе где много таких мест, никакой паники, только ностальгия и печаль от этой серости и понимания что большая часть России такая
Песня тоже подобрана правильно и помогает это прочувствовать.
every since a kid ive been especially obsessed with places that look like these. especially the one at 1:54 is like so comforting looks like my hometown
While the American ones are often unsettling but nostalgic, many of these have a deep, ineffable sorrow to them. Like something that was once filled with life and happiness, only to be abandoned to decay. I think a big part of this might be the music, but it's still very interesting nonetheless.
I’m Russian but have lived almost my whole life in America. These images feel more familiar than the typical American dreamcore images.
I could swear I have been all of the places in this video... it's making me remember going to operas, my childhood dance recitals, seeing the world from my mother's knee-height. The typical American liminal space photos never did much for me, but these ones... oof. Thank you for making this.
Personally i find these abandoned post soviet buildings quite interesting as it is like ruins of an old fallen empire to me, except the fall only happened like in the last 30 years. Great to see stuff that i would never imagine existing in my time.
I am Brazilian and TBH, I find Americal liminal spaces creepy but not nostalgic and Russian Liminal Spaces melancholic,although the darker ones are creepy. I mean, I cannot feel as if a monster will come from most of your photos. Maybe I don't have a great sense of anemoia.
I would love to see a video with liminal spaces of Brazil
we should make an latin american version
Like what the fuck I'm from Wales but these affected me so much its like Swansea
I am mexican, and I can say that this spaces are scarier than the american ones. I feel more related to the american ones that show a comercial space, like a mall, an office or a playground because we usually try to imitate americans in those aspects, but I don't feel related to the images of habitable places like houses because we construct them very diferently, also their furniture is different.
I am midwestern american and when I look at these I feel nostalgic as if I'm playing STALKER or Outlast, does not strike the same chord as the other videos, very nice.
The differences between the popular American liminal spaces and your Russian ones are the sterility and commodity-quality of the American ones. North America was not built with intent beyond simple function, and there is very little in terms of classical design in. The aesthetics here are new, there is no real culture beyond consumption and capital. When one fad or franchise dies, another takes over just as fast and erases the past from everything but the memory of those who bore witness to the original state of things... And even then it is so easy to forget, when design and culture have such a high turnover rate. The Russian and Soviet images here depict spaces with intentional and purposeful design, design that stems from history and culture of the people these places were created to serve. Your images have humanity. I can imagine the activity and life that once existed in these places. In the North American photos, there's no such thing.
That's a really good point, and i think that's a huge part of liminality for me. Seeing something built with thought and purpose be abandoned
this is really interesting. seeing how every country has a different experience about the same image. i wish an iberian would do this, as we’re slightly a mix from both the american and the russian version in our own way i’d say
I'm not russian but these pictures still give me a strong creepy nostalgic vibe, growing up in a poor gloomy town in the USA, and being fascinated by chernobyl and old haunted buildings probably is what contributes to the feeling. I also use to have constant dreams about being alone in abandoned dark buildings similar to these photos, it really is strange.
This kind of liminality is about the sadness of abandonment so I can see your relation
I've never been outside America, but this feels so much more familiar than American "liminal spaces."
Absolutely love this slideshow. It's eerie and nostalgic at the same time. My only complaint is that the images change too quickly. I found myself pausing at every photograph. Don't be afraid to leave the image longer for the viewer to explore it. 10 seconds would be just about right. I hope you'll do a part 2 in the future.
I may do a part two! For now, I have a link of extra images I didn't include in the final video linked in the description. Glad you liked my slideshow :)
I had to watch this at 0.5 speed to better see the photos and the deep singing voice in the background singing extra slowly made it much more... sad, nostalgic, or whatever it is liminal spaces makes us feel ! Makes sense, I guess we feel uncomfortable because this places talk of life the is no more, of how time slooowly but surely forgets.
0:54 - I'm from Norisk, Russia. This house looks just like my house where I grew up. This is what my purgatory will look like...
пять ночей у фрогги 5
сказки можно забыть
I'm italian, and I think that the american versions are more familiar for some reason.
Не хватает пустых поликлиник с уродливыми растениями и детских садов, но не заброшенных.
I’m American but these just hit me in the way most of these videos don’t. The others just feel mildly uncomfortable.
This one is a tragedy.
The song really added to the nostalgia and sadness, especially because you remember the movie it's from and there the buildings and everything isn't broken yet but then you see how time went by..
0:36 is not Russia, it's actually a control room of Herouni mirror radio telescope in Armenia
I think it is just Soviet era architecture rather then just Russian. Wich is probably why a lot of eastern Europeans relate.
This actually makes me feel something unlike most of the american ones, since I'm from a post soviet country
Thanks bro
These pictures make me feel awful for the Russian citizenry because you would think Russia was struggling to recover from an alien invasion based on all these pictures. I guess in a way, it has felt like that for decades, if not centuries based on it's history.
I am an American and feel that sense of "nostalgia" in quite a few of those photos. Like that is some architecture in me town. Also most do that for me, and the music just makes it
I'm Romanian and I think the American version has an uncanny vibe to it. But this is much more. This actually made me feel a burning sensation in my heart. These actually made me feel nostalgic.
Ok…. But this song/ voice is gorgeous!
0:44 это заброшенный цирк в Кишиневе, Молдове, в котором я часто бывала в детстве и каталась на штуке подымающей тебя до купола, а потом резко спускающей вниз. Да уже, вот это попадание в точку так попадание.
i have been been walking around town like its Chernobyl, gas mask, hazmat suit, big black chemical gloves.
From America, and a great number of these elicit the same liminal space feeling as most American liminal spaces
Первые пять и седьмая подходят под "определение". Остальные - просто набор рухляди.
Нужное ощущение дискомфорта возникает только в определённых случаях, либо при повторяющемся узоре, как на фото 1 (стена) и 7 (потолок), либо при плохом освещении определённых участков, как в актовом зале, либо при общем непонимании назначения самого места и его элементов (некоторые последние фото непонятных гостинных в административном здании, которые "зачем и почему"), либо просто за счёт "зловещей долины", когда попытка реалистично изобразить что-то природное почти удаётся.
it's weird how some of these places are where I spend my time, just old. the thought that places I spend hours and days in might get old or even be destroyed before that happens hurts me. some of these places I felt like I've explored with my best friend when I was 11. I'm not russian but man this feels a lot closer than the American spaces.
После "Иронии судьбы" невозможно не подпевать эту песню и вся атмосфера тоски теряется, хотя именно этот эффект оказывают лиминальные пространства).
I got to say, some of them get to me. Only becuase the architecture is so wild, the question of why a space like it exists is something that I find interesting.
Отличное видео, спасибо
2:08 hey buddy you're ruining the vibes
A lot of this imagery looks really similar to scenes from Tarkovsky movies, and evokes the same feeling. Really cool!
Five nigths with froggy 5
Fairy tales can be forgotten
I’m American and got recommended this after watching several liminal spaces videos. I think the difference is that the American videos and places are like 1:51 (small to medium size, personal, still used) and the Russian places are variations of 0:45 (large public spaces, years since abandoned, may have quite a history). Thanks.
Это такое приятное видео , когда я его смотрела я испытывала чувство ностальгии по прошлому .
Такое чувство будто я снова маленькая , иду с мамой зимой к её подруге , на мне большой, тёплый шарф .
Я поднимаю голову , и в свете одного жёлтого фонаря, я вижу как танцует падающий снег .
Окей, здесь и так довольно много комментариев и разных теорий о том, почему же русские лиминальные пространства так сильно отличаются от русских, но мне просто хочется выразить свою теорию.
Все фотографии в этом видео -- заброшенные, старые и разрушенные места из эпохи Совесткого Союза. Лиминальные пространства в Америке же являются другими -- это места, в которых просто нет людей или оборудования. В примере Solar Sands были показаны фотографии разных заброшенных мест, но в отличии от русских, они сохранились ОЧЕНЬ хорошо. В частности Тако Белл, или же фотография стола с двумя синими стульями. На фото комната будто бы совсем новая, но построена она была в 80-90х годах.
Американские пространства более "загадочные". Это будто просто обычные комнаты, из которых на секунду исчезли все люди. Русские -- просто старые, пыльные руины. И всё. Как говорят большинство людей в комментах, эти фотографии более грустные, чем странные.
As a canadian born in the early 2000s, i somehow relate to these more than the American ones
why does this make me cry
I recognize a few of these from dreams
I grew up in America but my mom is from Russia so I have visited my Russian relatives before, these bring back hazy memories for me, a lot of these look like rundown versions of where my Aunt and cousin lived and some of these brought me back to all the places and shows I was taken to when staying with them, especially the second location shown. And I must’ve seen something like that little log house, it reminds me of Baba Yaga but I’m sure I’ve seen something like it in real life
Не знаю как другим, а мне комфортно от такой атмосферы. Стало спокойно на душе при просмотре.