Laughing, but only because I haven't seen other people brave enough to put this portion of their campaign on RUclips for the whole world to see. Thanks for the content, even if it was brutal.
@Gary Jackson It was pretty funny ... once. If I play, it gets uploaded, unless I notice major mistakes to my benefit. Most minor things, I don't worry about as my game time is limited. Thanks for watching! :)
Oh Man. This 'new version' of MC:LCG is insane. Surge, Side Scheme, Surge, Side Scheme, Surge, Side Scheme, Surge, Side Scheme, Surge, Side Scheme, Surge, Side Scheme, I think you may have set a Side Scheme record. You should contact FF for your award!
After losing at this horribly with Rocket and Groot in campaign mode 4 times (twice on turn 1!), I went back with Dr. Strange and Ant Man in non-campaign and got revenge. It felt really good!
@MrSkorin It just took me one loss in campaign mode to go non-campaign and introduce Ronan to Captain Marvel! Glad we both found some revenge. :) Now I'm off doing something else much worse ... gluing miniatures (and my fingers) together. ;) Good luck with your further plays against those villains!
I really was laughing at that point you put that comment on the screen. When you got Shadows Of the Past and you said “Sure.” Why not every other bad thing has happened. Yes this campaign is brutal. Especially the start of Ronan.
Dale....great video. You remained stoic for almost the whole game! I haven't heard you become frustrated in a game of Champions before, I felt for you.
Thanks for watching! I think that was just me realizing that the new "Standard" feels like what I thought Heroic level 2 was supposed to feel like. Hope your games have gone better. :)
That was the most perfect opening hand ever (Groot's) ! =D I guess that the first attack agains Rocket, you should have given Ronan 2 boost cards since he did not have The Power Stone with him :) This scenario is so bad that Ronan didn't even miss this extra boost card =D
@@DaletheCasualGamer Same here. I have been happy with the "horrible death" ratio throughout the various villains, so far. Ronan felt like a wall: We played Iron Man and Groot (on a non-expert campaign) and though we only had half of your side schemes and upgrades on Ronan, we had the feeling we would lose after round one. It only took 4 or 5 more (agonizing) turns. .. you may have been better off with a fast death : P
Brutal game as always. Every time you went to thwart, I kept wanting to scream, "GET RID OF THE KREE SUPREMACY!!!" :) Also, I think you missed a few times of adding to the boost icons with Cannonade. My luck is bad against him too, he is just too difficult especially in the campaign. I usually play one hero which is even harder. My focus is usually try to get rid of Kree Supremacy asap and then pincer maneuver. Get the universal weapon off and hope a Target Acquired will pop to get the Universal Weapon into the discard pile when it comes in as a boost card.
@Jay Atkinson First play against Ronan ... and honestly, not sure I had enough threat removal to get there without Ronan getting built up with everything else. Too many items to address and I feel like taking out Ronan is a rush game. Not so sure about maintaining the status quo and building up. But, more plays will maybe figure out the needed pattern. Thanks for the advice, and 3 copies of Target Acquired really is something to add to decks against Ronan! Thanks! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer But that's the point of Kree Supremacy, it helps him build up and makes the game Heroic 2 difficulty for you. Getting rid of it should be a priority to at least get you down to Heroic 1 because of his stupid ship environment. I agree with your other comments btw, I think the designers took the difficulty too far especially for standard difficulty.
Valiant effort. Not saying it would have helped at all (cause Ronan) but I think you lost right out the gate pouring so much attack into him. I think the line would be more thwart with everything to eliminate the initial side schemes. Also not sure about getting rid of the weapon turn 1. Glad you fared better on subsequent plays!
Thanks Dale! Your play-throughs are so smooth. I finally beat Ronan today without the 'Kree Supremacy' side scheme (the most recent Rules Reference Guide made it "optional"). What kind of sleeves are you using? I like they way they look.
@Ben Joslin I just started another campaign in GMW with a friend, him as QuickSilver and me as Vision ... I see us using the optional rule too. I use two brands, for cards getting shuffled I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves, and then for the character identity card, main villain card, and main schemes I use FFG sleeves (basically any premium sleeve that is clear on both sides). The Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves are "blurry" on one side, so not the best for dual sided cards. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!! :)
Lost to Ronan 4 times now (one true solo as I wondered if that would have been easier)…. I got destroyed everytime It wasn’t even close. So I said to myself…. I know I check out one of Dales videos. Conclusion - I’m gonna need to reduce the difficulty to even stand a chance. Might the setup without side schemes in and no hammer to start with? Thanks for the video anyway, loved your reaction when Shadows of the past came out. Interested to hear if anyone has defeated Roman in campaign?
@Dan The Crow Ronan is a tough one ... not looking forward to Thanos! ;) In a true 2 player game, we were able to take out Thanos using StarLord and Gamora both using Aggression. I think it still requires some luck while using top tier heroes. Either way, good luck, and thanks for watching! :)
I felt more in control when I tried Klaw on Heroic 3! lol Soooo many cards with Surge! Still thought it was entertaining, and couldn't help but laugh at how things went when I was editing. :)
GMW campaign is really well done, except for Ronan. Next time we play it we will be using the non-campaign scenario for him. It's honestly not fun to lose over and over before your decks have a chance to get anything on the table. Thank you for the video!
I believe Rhino is taking a beating around the world after gamers try to recover from playing against Ronan. I almost feel bad for him ... and yet, I'm using him as a punching bag too. ;)
The other villians play very cool and feature fancy mechanics .. PLUS you have those space ships to fly and upgrade. .. so: you HAVE TO get GMW, .. forget Ronan, he's just another guy with a hammer.
Me and my brother played this yesterday for the first time, and he got 1 shot on ronans first attack, he decided to do what you did and take the first attack and that caused him to get wrecked in a single 10 damage attack. Surge after surge it was enough for us to call it quits for the day lol.
A valiant effort haha I just beat him this past week after 10-11 attempts, with Cap Aggression and Ms Marvel Justice. I have yet to see anyone beat the campaign version of him with Rocket and Groot, which is sort of unfortunate. I'm hoping the new Guardians or the new cards in those sets fare better against him!
@Daniel Keim Thanks for watching! I have seen other people are getting Star Lord and Gamora ... I don't expect to get my copy until sometime next week since from what I'm told the official release date is May 14th. I haven't seen Star Lords cards, but in my opinion, his ability is not worth it ... getting an extra encounter card to reduce the cost of a card, unless all his cards are broken, they just can't be worth it. And if the Guardians cards make them that much better, that to me makes all the other heroes useless and while I'm not a huge Guardians fan (I just know of them because of the movies), I don't consider they're power level to be higher than most of the regulars in the Avengers. Time will tell. Happy gaming! :)
When you drew shadows of the past I could feel your hero die inside 😂. I still can't wrap my head around why they made this campaign so over powered. I recently played Ronin again and by turn two remembered why I don't play him.
I freely admit I laughed out loud when Shadows of the Past came out. Startled the dog I did. That was brutal to put it mildly. My initial impression is that the Rocket “engine” doesn’t build fast enough to handle the onslaught. Too bad there aren’t other GotG heroes available to help. Wait a second, there’s somebody at the door.
So the dog was deep in suspense from the game play and your laughter saved him. I'm glad you both enjoyed the video. :) I'm like you, I think Ronan needs to be dealt with quickly as he builds up too quickly ... maybe double aggression. I know one person knocking likes getting extra encounter cards which I believe to be a very bad idea. Not sure I'm gonna answer. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer the dog was out cold on the couch. No reflection in your gameplay, he’d already put in a long day training. At the door was a new popover pan and a cherry pit puller. The solution to Ronin has been found! Fire up the kitchenaide stand mixer. It goes to 11. Surge that.
@@JJEMcManus lol while I am a little disappointed at your dog's interest in the game. I feel a cat would have paid attention, or at least pretended to be paying attention. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer uhhhh…there are four cats and they are only interested when there are minis on the table. There’s the truth of why I went all in on MU.
You sounded pretty annoyed at the end (and I’m not surprised). I played Ronan, lost and have shelved him for life. It’s not the experience I wanted from the game (and collector 1 - infiltrate - I found the same). I think drang, escape and nebula are really fun scenarios outside the campaign so hopefully you don’t get completely put off! Rocket also one of my favourite heroes to date (so they did get some things right..)
@Samir Nathwani Annoyed, or more surprised that a "Standard" game immediately made me think of my play of Heroic 3 vs Klaw. This is a set I'd have a hard time recommending to average or casual gamers. I'd say get it for Rocket and Groot, as they are both fun to play. As for the villains, I do really like the new mechanics of play for them, just feel the difficulty was WAY off. I wasn't interested in playing Heroic mode, and definitely not interested in a Standard mode that feels like Heroic plus.
@@DaletheCasualGamer yeh I definitely agree with you. Have a try of the villains without the campaign set up - I honestly think you’ll be surprised! They’re fun and as you already know switch it up from what we’ve seen so far in the game. I’m a completely casual gamer so hopefully you feel the same!
Agreed. Big misstep with the campaign difficulty change to standard with Ronan. I used to play with my boy a lot, now he's completely lost interest due to the experience of the campaign. He's now not even interested playing the previous villains we played and enjoyed because he didn't find the experience fun at all. He hasn't played since. I feel that Campaign Standard has been designed for an incredibly niche audience, and I do wonder what damage this set might have done to future campaign sales.
@@kentmonkey8720 I don't mind losing a game but to me, that's the biggest disappointment from this set ... bringing in young and new gamers and then BAM, excitement of the game is over. I don't see the average, casual gamers being happy with this set at all, and while the more competitive gamers wanted something more challenging, I don't believe they wanted that in Standard and Expert mode, but maybe in a modified Heroic mode. We'll see how the community responds and how FFG handles future sets.
Ronan is Insane. What are your thoughts on this set compared to the Rise of the Red Skull? I am held back to getting this set because I think it might be too tough. Is that so? Also, Great Job! You’re content is fantastic!
@varun ganti My opinion on this set (and I stress, just MY opinion) is that I would not recommend it to players that have been happy with Standard and Expert modes as is, unless they just want Rocket and Groot. I think the two heroes are super fun to play. As for the villains, I do like the mechanics introduced, but believe Standard mode to be harder than the previous Expert Mode, and the new Expert Mode feels like Heroic level 2. With that said, I've only played the standard campaign once solo (which you've seen) and once in a group (same results). No plans for an expert campaign, and honestly playing standard campaign I feel like I'd have to use the very best heroes with super optimized decks and the expert campaign rules not allowing you to change decks doesn't sound fun either. I might try it at some point, but I'd rather play with the new heroes against "normal" villains for fun. :) I have played non-campaign Expert using Dr. Strange and Ant-Man (the 2 most powerful heroes in my opinion) and I think Nebula and Ronan comes down to luck of the draw from the encounter deck. I'm sure with more plays I might feel confident with consistent wins against Nebula, but not Ronan. He has too many things building up that is difficult to keep under control. I currently have 4 total plays against Ronan. Two in standard campaign modes, both brutal losses. One solo non-campaign went well, but to me, Captain Marvel is broken in solo play. And one non-campaign expert mode vs Ronan with Dr. Strange and Ant-Man. I made two minor mistakes that I don't think impacted the play, but will call it a win (some might think otherwise). And I think that was total luck. Anyway, I hope that helps, and happy gaming!
I came to see you beat this. .. When even Dale the Casual Gamer falls, we are in peril! Wait, ... you put another fight against him online, with Captain Marvel, right? Need to look that one up ...
@@DaletheCasualGamer yep, caught your Captain Marvel act. gz on that one : ) ... I see, that an Iron Man, who needs to build up to bring some effectiveness to the rounds, is quite a baaaad choice against Ronan. But, that's the hero my wife prefers, and so we started the campaign, and so we are stuck there ... until we give up.
@@DaletheCasualGamer we gave up on fighting Ronan, just saying. It's too much pain. ... on the other hand, we are also on our 5th try not to get beaten by Red Skull. With Gamora and Valkyrie. As cool as this whole game is, I don't like the way you just can't hop in and play your favorite hero/ines against certain villains, because their mechanics will have a super hard time there ...
Yep. Not all heroes are created equal. Some can attack and thwart fine, and others seem very specialized and will cost you the game since they can't help with attacking or thwarting. Good luck with Red Skull. Need to go heavy thwart removal with him to stand a chance. :)
Yeah, when I saw the length of the video I knew it wasn't a win. I played him in campaign 4 times and never got to stage 2 (also Rocket and Groot). Then I stopped. I plan to try him outside campaign sometime since he won't get all that extra stuff at the beginning. This campaign REALLY punishes you for doing well in the first 4 scenarios.
@Scot Phelps Especially taking out the Badoon Headhunter. Seems like a good idea for 2 VP, but all the extra cards with Surge is deadly in the later games!
@Matt Levy Ronan is going to take specialized decks, and while I typically "throw" decks together, some more planning will be needed ... and while I like deck-building games, deck construction is another thing. Good luck! :)
This went as expected lol . I played Ronan a bunch two-handed and true solo yesterday and this morning (lost them all of course). In one game today, I tried Star-Lord true solo and attempted the tactic of buying time round one and stayed in alter-ego form. Bad idea. Villain schemed straight up to 2nd stage of the scheme (even though I put out an ally who removed the 2 starting threat) and then with 4 encounter cards (You Stand Accused, the regular dealt one and the 2 from the two Kree cards) made him scheme up to the required 10 to make me lose by the scheme in round one. Good change of pace from getting KOed in 1 or 2 rounds I guess lol
I finally won after about a dozen tries or so. Star-Lord solo. Boss rush and had to get lucky card draws with no minions who have Guard, my ally had a Laser Blaster and gave her Target practice, used an element gun to remove a new Tough card on Ronan which got him down to 12 hit points, then got a Sliding Shot which dealt 10 damage (Ronan had Kree armor reducing damage taken by 1 per attack), this in turn made me take the Power Stone from him and since I was ready due to a Daring Escape, even with his Armor, because of the Power Stone I hit him for 2 damage with a basic attack to finish him off. This was round 2 and if I didn't win, the scheme was gonna be my demise. Anyways this is on Standard Mode (and I used my campaign setup with the Headhunter in there and my Stand Accused card, etc...). Not overly enjoyable (the rest of the campaign is fun, this one scenario is just too hard to be fun, I can't imagine going through that with other people).
@@DaletheCasualGamer i think 12 games before one ends up as a victory should be for Heroic difficulty. Expert should take close to that. Standard should be like 1win in 4 tries at worst. Meh.
Campaign true solo Ronan got me one turn 1 :D After that I decided to play him non-campaign only and he is ok like that. I really dislike that you get punished for doing well against nebula as well: Got the power stone -> get wrecked, removed the evasion counters -> get a handicap... Can't imagine in expert XD
Agreed. Standard feelers like heroic with additional schemes and way too much surge. I like a lot of the mechanics, just not sure about the difficulty fitting the typical standard and expert modes. Feels like they heard complaints about the game being too easy and chose to up the scale for everyone. As such, other than getting Rocket and Groot, I wouldn’t recommend the villains for many players, just the ones who were previously playing heroic mode.
WOW... I think you were worse than us hehehe. We played with Doctor Strange (Justice) and Rocket (Agression) and in the 10 attempts we were beaten by Ronan. Our best chance was when we took out all the side schemes in the first round, but we took 4 attacking events right thereafter. I came to see your video hoping to find out some mistake we made, but the blow really hurts hahaha. 1- What did you think of this campaign? A lot harder than Red Skull's, isn't it? 2- Doubt = you were drawing 2 event cards, but wouldn't it be 3 for each character? You must already have 1 event, but there is an Enviromment with +1 event and a Side Scheme with +1 event.
I believe this campaign is definitely more difficult than Red Skull ... and that symbol is just to deal one extra encounter card per symbol, not per player. Hope that helps, and happy gaming! :)
I think they would have been better served putting some modularity into the campaign, rather than there only being one set for each scenario. I'm making Ronan more manageable by changing the modular set and only introducing the Kree Supremacy side scheme in the second villain section. I am playing with Cap and Rocket at the moment through the campaign. If they fail then the doctor will be getting a call 📞
@S Peter I see the Dr. being called in a lot now ... which I see as bad that there is only 1 or 2 heroes viable for a standard campaign. With that said, I did go Expert non-campaign with Dr. Strange and Ant-Man through all the villains. And even with that, I don't see Expert Ronan being a high percentage win with who I consider to me the top 2 heroes. I think what they did for this campaign would make a good alternative to the current "Heroic" mode, but not the standard for Standard and Expert. But that's just me. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Star Lord seems to be a better character for this encounter looking at his cards. Watching your playthrough fully but taking into consideration i'm new to MC it looked a hard encounter to balance and my initial impression was you've either got to either burn Ronin ASAP or focus on threat then burn hard when you can.. still both options look really difficult. Lucky for me It will be a fair bit befor i get around to GMW and will have probably played Star Lord and the other new characters a bit by then.
Captain Marvel with Justice and many, many, many attempts and a lot of luck was the only way I found to beat this. I went all in on getting rid of Kree Supremacy ASAP and added Target Acquired x3 to stop that stupid weapon from getting back on him. Luckily I let Nebula keep the stone in the game before so I didn’t have to deal with You Stand Accused. Not sure I’ll ever play campaign mode again for GMW. I can play each villain in standard mode in order and it’s enough of a feel of the campaign for me.
@Michael Wages I'm probably with you on that ... the campaign feels like Heroic level game play, and when I play solo, I tend to want to relax and the campaign does not feel very relaxing. Now multi-player, its easier to laugh with others as things go terribly wrong. :)
I was actually hoping you'd win so it'll give me some encouragement to play against Ronan again. I was playing solo with Rocket and had 4 first turn losses. It got really frustrating. If this is the level they are maintaining, then I cannot imagine how Thanos is going to be when it gets released... Someone at FFG need to do some serious reflection.
@Daniel Flare All I can say is, while a played a couple games on "Heroic" just to see how bad things could go, it is a mode that I am not interested in playing ... even if they try to call it "Standard" or "Expert". And I totally agree, now that they've taken Ronan to this level, they'd have to admit the mistake if Thanos and his villain set is anything less than this set. In my opinion, changing the difficulty by that much was not a good design choice. But I'm just a casual gamer, so needless to say, the didn't ask for my input. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer It's good to see Ronan (clearly) at the top of that food chain. But, maybe they overdid it, especially when we are looking at Thanos coming, as you mentioned.
My wife and I got destroyed by Ronan. With all the surge cards we both had about 7 encounter cards turn one. Was not a fun experience won’t be playing him anytime in the future.
I think Ronan is broken. The 4 other villains is worth playing. My main problem with Ronan is that you cannot scale him down. Even in standard he is way too much. And the real problem is the huge amount of encounter-cards and threat from pincer and the campaign-Challenge. But let us wait on the hero-packs for the rest of the guardians. This box have had to been testet with the other cards. If this is not the case, I think ffg made this way out of the scale too hard. Thanks for showing me, i sm not the only one struggling Dale. And another concern is that it is Ronan...What about Thanos?
Haha, I've thought about scaling up Thanos too ... and expect to be stuck at the first villain. lol For standard mode, this was brutal, and I'm pretty sure we are not alone. I'm ready for Rhino. ;)
I’m struggling with playing against Ronan. I'm usually done after round 2 lol. During the villain's turn, wouldn't you get 3 encounter cards per player? One for the villain's turn, one for the campaign side scheme, and one for the Kree ship environment?
Ronan is not even fun. The trick to beat him his take character that do a crap ton of damage and all you wanna do is find a way to kill him in 5 turns. It's the only way
@Thom Desrosiers This is the way. The deck construction needed for wins now reminds me of the Lord of the Rings LCG, that game was tough too (or at least, that's how I remember it). I found this game to be worse than when I played Heroic 3 vs Klaw. That didn't end well, but I didn't plan to win. I typically assume I stand a good chance of winning against standard mode ... but not anymore! :)
if Ronan's starting set up are 2 cards that has hazard, shouldn't you be dealt 2 additional encounter cards per turn? so 3 total with Kree Supremacy + Kree Command Ship, and a permanent 2 encounters per player due to the Kree Command Ship?
He’s my favorite, but I don’t think he makes my personal top 5 “most powerful” heroes. I guess he and quicksilver would be good against the collector as they both have ways to ready, but my top 2 go to Ant-Man and Dr. Strange. Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Captain Marvel would probably my top 5 for power. Captain America and Wasp would probably be next. Just my opinion there. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer you were way more polite than I was voicing your opinion. This scenario is a bad joke. You had optimized decks vs a standard difficulty villain and never stood a chance.
@@playdgamewithsteve This is where being a "casual" gamer has me thinking "I just don't need to play these villains". I know some people have been asking for more difficult villains/plays, I personally was not, and think it was a bad decision to design such a change in difficulty. I believe what they did was good for amending "heroic" game play, but instituting those methods in a standard game, or even expert, seems a bit much. I know there are A LOT of parents that play this game with their kids, and this may deter from further games. I've heard the quote from one kid that said, "I thought we were heroes?" after playing this in standard with there parent. And all I can say is enjoy Rocket and Groot, but leave the villains in this set on the shelf. While I love some of the mechanics with these villains, I think they missed the mark for difficulty. There's my quick opinion. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer We played the first 4 scenarios and won (had to play Drang twice). My Daughter wants us to play in Rookie mode when we film our play through, I might just do that.
Only 2 attempts with Rocket & Groot ... and two failures. I feel confident Ant-Man and Dr. Strange could do it, but just haven't gone back to the campaign yet. How have you done?
@@masterthief4219 I believe any consistent campaign play victories will need to be top tier combinations, and while I love the mechanics and playing Rocket and Groot, I wouldn't call them a top-tier team-up. And with that said, I've only tried once solo (two handed) and once with another player. They were able to do fine with the initial 4 battles, but Ronan just has too much going on to control with existing cards. Good luck!
I don’t know if you ever saw the Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls movie, but when he is getting shot with tranquilizer darts, just replace “darts” with “surges” and that’s how I felt. 3 surges is too many! (Proceeds to get more surges).
Now I'm second guessing my second guessing of second guessing. I think it is still damage from an "attack", just that the attack wasn't initiated against him. Overkill gets out of retaliate because the attack wasn't "initiated" against the villain. Anyway ... another instance where further clarification would be nice as I can see it going either way as the rules states the "excess damage from the attack is dealt to the villain". Curious to see when FFG will re-post the rules reference. They had one posted for about 2 days and then took it down. Anyway, this game needed a lot more assistance for the heroes. Hope your games are going well! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer you deal 7 dmg from an attack to enemy with 2 hp. The rest is just overkill dmg, its not attack anymore. It ignores retaliate/guard etc. Retaliate has nothing with "initiating".
Laughing, but only because I haven't seen other people brave enough to put this portion of their campaign on RUclips for the whole world to see. Thanks for the content, even if it was brutal.
@Gary Jackson It was pretty funny ... once. If I play, it gets uploaded, unless I notice major mistakes to my benefit. Most minor things, I don't worry about as my game time is limited. Thanks for watching! :)
You almost seemed relieved when you realized that Groot died as well! Didn't have another round of encounter cards to deal with!
Haha!!! I was. ;)
By Ronan’s second turn, he had 6 side schemes and 5 attachments. I was laughing.
@James Arnett And by then I was thinking to myself, "This is standard?!?!"
But have to admit, it was a bit funny. ;)
Ffg's revenge after the complaints about the lack of difficulty 🤣
I think there are many of us that were fine with the previous difficulty...to all the others, this set is for you. ;)
clearly you needed to challenge him to a dance off, bro!
@Rahdo lol, I was hoping that "Dance Off" support card was going to show up. :)
Oh Man. This 'new version' of MC:LCG is insane.
Surge, Side Scheme,
Surge, Side Scheme,
Surge, Side Scheme,
Surge, Side Scheme,
Surge, Side Scheme,
Surge, Side Scheme,
I think you may have set a Side Scheme record. You should contact FF for your award!
Well if it's not a record, I hope it's enough for an achievement award. ;)
Thanks for watching!
After losing at this horribly with Rocket and Groot in campaign mode 4 times (twice on turn 1!), I went back with Dr. Strange and Ant Man in non-campaign and got revenge. It felt really good!
@MrSkorin It just took me one loss in campaign mode to go non-campaign and introduce Ronan to Captain Marvel! Glad we both found some revenge. :)
Now I'm off doing something else much worse ... gluing miniatures (and my fingers) together. ;)
Good luck with your further plays against those villains!
I really was laughing at that point you put that comment on the screen. When you got Shadows Of the Past and you said “Sure.” Why not every other bad thing has happened. Yes this campaign is brutal. Especially the start of Ronan.
@Daniel Craig I was laughing by that point to ... or was it crying, I definitely had mixed emotions. ;)
Dale....great video. You remained stoic for almost the whole game!
I haven't heard you become frustrated in a game of Champions before, I felt for you.
Thanks for watching! I think that was just me realizing that the new "Standard" feels like what I thought Heroic level 2 was supposed to feel like.
Hope your games have gone better. :)
When Shadows of the Past was the surge, I was laughing so hard like "you GOT to be kidding me". I have yet to play this guy, but I dread it
@Dale Hobbs lol Be prepared for the worst, and be ready to laugh it off. :)
That was the most perfect opening hand ever (Groot's) ! =D
I guess that the first attack agains Rocket, you should have given Ronan 2 boost cards since he did not have The Power Stone with him :)
This scenario is so bad that Ronan didn't even miss this extra boost card =D
@gabriel domingos Ronan needs a big handicap for Rocket and Groot to stand a chance! :)
Wow , just wow. I love the commit that some at FF is getting there revenge.
I’d just like to say, I was good with the pre ious difficulty. I play to relax, not die a horrible death. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Same here. I have been happy with the "horrible death" ratio throughout the various villains, so far. Ronan felt like a wall: We played Iron Man and Groot (on a non-expert campaign) and though we only had half of your side schemes and upgrades on Ronan, we had the feeling we would lose after round one. It only took 4 or 5 more (agonizing) turns. .. you may have been better off with a fast death : P
@@Tamyndris Sometimes a fast death is a good death. Although a glimpse of a possible victory would be nice too. ;)
I laughed. It was entertaining for me
I laughed. I cried. I laughed again. ;)
Brutal game as always. Every time you went to thwart, I kept wanting to scream, "GET RID OF THE KREE SUPREMACY!!!" :) Also, I think you missed a few times of adding to the boost icons with Cannonade. My luck is bad against him too, he is just too difficult especially in the campaign. I usually play one hero which is even harder. My focus is usually try to get rid of Kree Supremacy asap and then pincer maneuver. Get the universal weapon off and hope a Target Acquired will pop to get the Universal Weapon into the discard pile when it comes in as a boost card.
@Jay Atkinson First play against Ronan ... and honestly, not sure I had enough threat removal to get there without Ronan getting built up with everything else. Too many items to address and I feel like taking out Ronan is a rush game. Not so sure about maintaining the status quo and building up. But, more plays will maybe figure out the needed pattern. Thanks for the advice, and 3 copies of Target Acquired really is something to add to decks against Ronan! Thanks! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer But that's the point of Kree Supremacy, it helps him build up and makes the game Heroic 2 difficulty for you. Getting rid of it should be a priority to at least get you down to Heroic 1 because of his stupid ship environment. I agree with your other comments btw, I think the designers took the difficulty too far especially for standard difficulty.
I’ve lost so many times on all bosses in this campaign, it’s a big difficulty jump! Nice to see other people struggle through! 😂
Valiant effort. Not saying it would have helped at all (cause Ronan) but I think you lost right out the gate pouring so much attack into him. I think the line would be more thwart with everything to eliminate the initial side schemes. Also not sure about getting rid of the weapon turn 1. Glad you fared better on subsequent plays!
Ronan has so much to deal with, it’s hard to decide where to start. lol. :)
Thanks Dale! Your play-throughs are so smooth. I finally beat Ronan today without the 'Kree Supremacy' side scheme (the most recent Rules Reference Guide made it "optional").
What kind of sleeves are you using? I like they way they look.
@Ben Joslin I just started another campaign in GMW with a friend, him as QuickSilver and me as Vision ... I see us using the optional rule too.
I use two brands, for cards getting shuffled I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves, and then for the character identity card, main villain card, and main schemes I use FFG sleeves (basically any premium sleeve that is clear on both sides). The Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves are "blurry" on one side, so not the best for dual sided cards. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Thanks and good luck on your upcoming campaign!
Same here! I almost gave up and moved on to the Thanos expansion. Only took 20+ games to finally beat him! Lol.
Lost to Ronan 4 times now (one true solo as I wondered if that would have been easier)…. I got destroyed everytime It wasn’t even close.
So I said to myself…. I know I check out one of Dales videos.
Conclusion - I’m gonna need to reduce the difficulty to even stand a chance. Might the setup without side schemes in and no hammer to start with?
Thanks for the video anyway, loved your reaction when Shadows of the past came out.
Interested to hear if anyone has defeated Roman in campaign?
@Dan The Crow Ronan is a tough one ... not looking forward to Thanos! ;)
In a true 2 player game, we were able to take out Thanos using StarLord and Gamora both using Aggression. I think it still requires some luck while using top tier heroes.
Either way, good luck, and thanks for watching! :)
Wow, brutal indeed!
I felt more in control when I tried Klaw on Heroic 3! lol
Soooo many cards with Surge! Still thought it was entertaining, and couldn't help but laugh at how things went when I was editing. :)
GMW campaign is really well done, except for Ronan. Next time we play it we will be using the non-campaign scenario for him. It's honestly not fun to lose over and over before your decks have a chance to get anything on the table. Thank you for the video!
@COTRPodcast You are welcome, and Good luck with your future battles against Ronan!!
That was harsh. I was excited to get GMW to the table. Now...ummmmmm...going to play standard Rhino for a while to boost up my confidence.
I believe Rhino is taking a beating around the world after gamers try to recover from playing against Ronan. I almost feel bad for him ... and yet, I'm using him as a punching bag too. ;)
The other villians play very cool and feature fancy mechanics .. PLUS you have those space ships to fly and upgrade. .. so: you HAVE TO get GMW, .. forget Ronan, he's just another guy with a hammer.
Me and my brother played this yesterday for the first time, and he got 1 shot on ronans first attack, he decided to do what you did and take the first attack and that caused him to get wrecked in a single 10 damage attack. Surge after surge it was enough for us to call it quits for the day lol.
@OurLastHope Ronan can have that effect on heroes. Hope the next battle goes a little better!
A valiant effort haha I just beat him this past week after 10-11 attempts, with Cap Aggression and Ms Marvel Justice. I have yet to see anyone beat the campaign version of him with Rocket and Groot, which is sort of unfortunate. I'm hoping the new Guardians or the new cards in those sets fare better against him!
@Daniel Keim Thanks for watching!
I have seen other people are getting Star Lord and Gamora ... I don't expect to get my copy until sometime next week since from what I'm told the official release date is May 14th. I haven't seen Star Lords cards, but in my opinion, his ability is not worth it ... getting an extra encounter card to reduce the cost of a card, unless all his cards are broken, they just can't be worth it.
And if the Guardians cards make them that much better, that to me makes all the other heroes useless and while I'm not a huge Guardians fan (I just know of them because of the movies), I don't consider they're power level to be higher than most of the regulars in the Avengers. Time will tell. Happy gaming! :)
And it started with so much promise. You can a great first turn, but then the wheels fell off! All four of them!
The spare tire was missing too. lol
You lasted 2 turns longer than I did! The one nice thing I can say about Ronan, it might be disappointing, but at least it doesn’t last long.
@Matt Anglin Haha! So true! :)
When you drew shadows of the past I could feel your hero die inside 😂. I still can't wrap my head around why they made this campaign so over powered. I recently played Ronin again and by turn two remembered why I don't play him.
Haha! I've always guessed that the designers got tired of some players saying the game was too easy ... and this was their response. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer that actually makes alot of sense 😂😂😂
I freely admit I laughed out loud when Shadows of the Past came out. Startled the dog I did.
That was brutal to put it mildly. My initial impression is that the Rocket “engine” doesn’t build fast enough to handle the onslaught. Too bad there aren’t other GotG heroes available to help. Wait a second, there’s somebody at the door.
So the dog was deep in suspense from the game play and your laughter saved him. I'm glad you both enjoyed the video. :)
I'm like you, I think Ronan needs to be dealt with quickly as he builds up too quickly ... maybe double aggression. I know one person knocking likes getting extra encounter cards which I believe to be a very bad idea. Not sure I'm gonna answer. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer the dog was out cold on the couch. No reflection in your gameplay, he’d already put in a long day training.
At the door was a new popover pan and a cherry pit puller. The solution to Ronin has been found! Fire up the kitchenaide stand mixer. It goes to 11. Surge that.
@@JJEMcManus lol while I am a little disappointed at your dog's interest in the game. I feel a cat would have paid attention, or at least pretended to be paying attention. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer uhhhh…there are four cats and they are only interested when there are minis on the table. There’s the truth of why I went all in on MU.
@@JJEMcManus I hope they help with painting miniatures. That would be awesome! And so many boxes for them to lounge in in that game too! :)
You sounded pretty annoyed at the end (and I’m not surprised). I played Ronan, lost and have shelved him for life. It’s not the experience I wanted from the game (and collector 1 - infiltrate - I found the same). I think drang, escape and nebula are really fun scenarios outside the campaign so hopefully you don’t get completely put off! Rocket also one of my favourite heroes to date (so they did get some things right..)
@Samir Nathwani Annoyed, or more surprised that a "Standard" game immediately made me think of my play of Heroic 3 vs Klaw. This is a set I'd have a hard time recommending to average or casual gamers. I'd say get it for Rocket and Groot, as they are both fun to play. As for the villains, I do really like the new mechanics of play for them, just feel the difficulty was WAY off. I wasn't interested in playing Heroic mode, and definitely not interested in a Standard mode that feels like Heroic plus.
@@DaletheCasualGamer yeh I definitely agree with you. Have a try of the villains without the campaign set up - I honestly think you’ll be surprised! They’re fun and as you already know switch it up from what we’ve seen so far in the game. I’m a completely casual gamer so hopefully you feel the same!
Agreed. Big misstep with the campaign difficulty change to standard with Ronan.
I used to play with my boy a lot, now he's completely lost interest due to the experience of the campaign. He's now not even interested playing the previous villains we played and enjoyed because he didn't find the experience fun at all. He hasn't played since.
I feel that Campaign Standard has been designed for an incredibly niche audience, and I do wonder what damage this set might have done to future campaign sales.
@@kentmonkey8720 I don't mind losing a game but to me, that's the biggest disappointment from this set ... bringing in young and new gamers and then BAM, excitement of the game is over.
I don't see the average, casual gamers being happy with this set at all, and while the more competitive gamers wanted something more challenging, I don't believe they wanted that in Standard and Expert mode, but maybe in a modified Heroic mode.
We'll see how the community responds and how FFG handles future sets.
Ronan is Insane. What are your thoughts on this set compared to the Rise of the Red Skull? I am held back to getting this set because I think it might be too tough. Is that so? Also, Great Job! You’re content is fantastic!
@varun ganti My opinion on this set (and I stress, just MY opinion) is that I would not recommend it to players that have been happy with Standard and Expert modes as is, unless they just want Rocket and Groot. I think the two heroes are super fun to play. As for the villains, I do like the mechanics introduced, but believe Standard mode to be harder than the previous Expert Mode, and the new Expert Mode feels like Heroic level 2.
With that said, I've only played the standard campaign once solo (which you've seen) and once in a group (same results). No plans for an expert campaign, and honestly playing standard campaign I feel like I'd have to use the very best heroes with super optimized decks and the expert campaign rules not allowing you to change decks doesn't sound fun either. I might try it at some point, but I'd rather play with the new heroes against "normal" villains for fun. :)
I have played non-campaign Expert using Dr. Strange and Ant-Man (the 2 most powerful heroes in my opinion) and I think Nebula and Ronan comes down to luck of the draw from the encounter deck. I'm sure with more plays I might feel confident with consistent wins against Nebula, but not Ronan. He has too many things building up that is difficult to keep under control.
I currently have 4 total plays against Ronan. Two in standard campaign modes, both brutal losses. One solo non-campaign went well, but to me, Captain Marvel is broken in solo play. And one non-campaign expert mode vs Ronan with Dr. Strange and Ant-Man. I made two minor mistakes that I don't think impacted the play, but will call it a win (some might think otherwise). And I think that was total luck.
Anyway, I hope that helps, and happy gaming!
@@DaletheCasualGamer Thanks!
19:15 "yea sure...". Of course shadows of the past is going to appear. Why not? LOL
@Daniel Flare Just adding to the insanity ... even though I was sane enough to see where this game was going. :)
I came to see you beat this. .. When even Dale the Casual Gamer falls, we are in peril! Wait, ... you put another fight against him online, with Captain Marvel, right? Need to look that one up ...
@Tamyndris I was hoping to beat this for you, but Ronan was adamant about another plan. Captain Marvel was a bit more persuasive in her technique. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer yep, caught your Captain Marvel act. gz on that one : ) ... I see, that an Iron Man, who needs to build up to bring some effectiveness to the rounds, is quite a baaaad choice against Ronan. But, that's the hero my wife prefers, and so we started the campaign, and so we are stuck there ... until we give up.
@@Tamyndris Good luck!
@@DaletheCasualGamer we gave up on fighting Ronan, just saying. It's too much pain. ... on the other hand, we are also on our 5th try not to get beaten by Red Skull. With Gamora and Valkyrie. As cool as this whole game is, I don't like the way you just can't hop in and play your favorite hero/ines against certain villains, because their mechanics will have a super hard time there ...
Yep. Not all heroes are created equal. Some can attack and thwart fine, and others seem very specialized and will cost you the game since they can't help with attacking or thwarting. Good luck with Red Skull. Need to go heavy thwart removal with him to stand a chance. :)
This is pretty much how every my attempt looks... this or shorter. Haven't even seen stage II, lol
@Roman lol Ronan is not for the weak of heart, and in my opinion, you need luck of the draw of encounter cards for a chance to win. Good luck! :)
Yeah, when I saw the length of the video I knew it wasn't a win. I played him in campaign 4 times and never got to stage 2 (also Rocket and Groot). Then I stopped. I plan to try him outside campaign sometime since he won't get all that extra stuff at the beginning. This campaign REALLY punishes you for doing well in the first 4 scenarios.
@Scot Phelps Especially taking out the Badoon Headhunter. Seems like a good idea for 2 VP, but all the extra cards with Surge is deadly in the later games!
Welcome to Ronan! I played him 5 times with Rocket solo, and lost every time. I still haven’t beaten him.
@Matt Levy Ronan is going to take specialized decks, and while I typically "throw" decks together, some more planning will be needed ... and while I like deck-building games, deck construction is another thing. Good luck! :)
This went as expected lol .
I played Ronan a bunch two-handed and true solo yesterday and this morning (lost them all of course). In one game today, I tried Star-Lord true solo and attempted the tactic of buying time round one and stayed in alter-ego form. Bad idea. Villain schemed straight up to 2nd stage of the scheme (even though I put out an ally who removed the 2 starting threat) and then with 4 encounter cards (You Stand Accused, the regular dealt one and the 2 from the two Kree cards) made him scheme up to the required 10 to make me lose by the scheme in round one. Good change of pace from getting KOed in 1 or 2 rounds I guess lol
I finally won after about a dozen tries or so. Star-Lord solo. Boss rush and had to get lucky card draws with no minions who have Guard, my ally had a Laser Blaster and gave her Target practice, used an element gun to remove a new Tough card on Ronan which got him down to 12 hit points, then got a Sliding Shot which dealt 10 damage (Ronan had Kree armor reducing damage taken by 1 per attack), this in turn made me take the Power Stone from him and since I was ready due to a Daring Escape, even with his Armor, because of the Power Stone I hit him for 2 damage with a basic attack to finish him off. This was round 2 and if I didn't win, the scheme was gonna be my demise.
Anyways this is on Standard Mode (and I used my campaign setup with the Headhunter in there and my Stand Accused card, etc...). Not overly enjoyable (the rest of the campaign is fun, this one scenario is just too hard to be fun, I can't imagine going through that with other people).
@Pierre Labrie Thanks for watching and Congrats on the win! 1 out of 12 for a standard game win doesn't seem right though, or is it just me?
@@DaletheCasualGamer i think 12 games before one ends up as a victory should be for Heroic difficulty. Expert should take close to that. Standard should be like 1win in 4 tries at worst. Meh.
Campaign true solo Ronan got me one turn 1 :D After that I decided to play him non-campaign only and he is ok like that.
I really dislike that you get punished for doing well against nebula as well: Got the power stone -> get wrecked, removed the evasion counters -> get a handicap...
Can't imagine in expert XD
Agreed. Standard feelers like heroic with additional schemes and way too much surge. I like a lot of the mechanics, just not sure about the difficulty fitting the typical standard and expert modes. Feels like they heard complaints about the game being too easy and chose to up the scale for everyone. As such, other than getting Rocket and Groot, I wouldn’t recommend the villains for many players, just the ones who were previously playing heroic mode.
WOW... I think you were worse than us hehehe.
We played with Doctor Strange (Justice) and Rocket (Agression) and in the 10 attempts we were beaten by Ronan. Our best chance was when we took out all the side schemes in the first round, but we took 4 attacking events right thereafter.
I came to see your video hoping to find out some mistake we made, but the blow really hurts hahaha.
1- What did you think of this campaign? A lot harder than Red Skull's, isn't it?
2- Doubt = you were drawing 2 event cards, but wouldn't it be 3 for each character? You must already have 1 event, but there is an Enviromment with +1 event and a Side Scheme with +1 event.
I believe this campaign is definitely more difficult than Red Skull ... and that symbol is just to deal one extra encounter card per symbol, not per player. Hope that helps, and happy gaming! :)
I think they would have been better served putting some modularity into the campaign, rather than there only being one set for each scenario. I'm making Ronan more manageable by changing the modular set and only introducing the Kree Supremacy side scheme in the second villain section. I am playing with Cap and Rocket at the moment through the campaign. If they fail then the doctor will be getting a call 📞
@S Peter I see the Dr. being called in a lot now ... which I see as bad that there is only 1 or 2 heroes viable for a standard campaign. With that said, I did go Expert non-campaign with Dr. Strange and Ant-Man through all the villains. And even with that, I don't see Expert Ronan being a high percentage win with who I consider to me the top 2 heroes.
I think what they did for this campaign would make a good alternative to the current "Heroic" mode, but not the standard for Standard and Expert. But that's just me. :)
Avoid content I've not played but had to watch the last 10 minutes to see what all the fuss has been about wrt difficulty.
Looks fun.
It was definitely good for a laugh. So yes to the fun. More fun in a group. :D
@@DaletheCasualGamer Star Lord seems to be a better character for this encounter looking at his cards.
Watching your playthrough fully but taking into consideration i'm new to MC it looked a hard encounter to balance and my initial impression was you've either got to either burn Ronin ASAP or focus on threat then burn hard when you can.. still both options look really difficult. Lucky for me It will be a fair bit befor i get around to GMW and will have probably played Star Lord and the other new characters a bit by then.
What a brutal game!!! I can not wait to get my GMW
I wish you better luck!! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer i wont get it as i have not beaten Rise of the red skull yet lol
Captain Marvel with Justice and many, many, many attempts and a lot of luck was the only way I found to beat this. I went all in on getting rid of Kree Supremacy ASAP and added Target Acquired x3 to stop that stupid weapon from getting back on him. Luckily I let Nebula keep the stone in the game before so I didn’t have to deal with You Stand Accused. Not sure I’ll ever play campaign mode again for GMW. I can play each villain in standard mode in order and it’s enough of a feel of the campaign for me.
@Michael Wages I'm probably with you on that ... the campaign feels like Heroic level game play, and when I play solo, I tend to want to relax and the campaign does not feel very relaxing. Now multi-player, its easier to laugh with others as things go terribly wrong. :)
I was actually hoping you'd win so it'll give me some encouragement to play against Ronan again. I was playing solo with Rocket and had 4 first turn losses. It got really frustrating. If this is the level they are maintaining, then I cannot imagine how Thanos is going to be when it gets released... Someone at FFG need to do some serious reflection.
@Daniel Flare All I can say is, while a played a couple games on "Heroic" just to see how bad things could go, it is a mode that I am not interested in playing ... even if they try to call it "Standard" or "Expert". And I totally agree, now that they've taken Ronan to this level, they'd have to admit the mistake if Thanos and his villain set is anything less than this set.
In my opinion, changing the difficulty by that much was not a good design choice. But I'm just a casual gamer, so needless to say, the didn't ask for my input. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer It's good to see Ronan (clearly) at the top of that food chain. But, maybe they overdid it, especially when we are looking at Thanos coming, as you mentioned.
@@Tamyndris Snap. I hope it's that easy. ;)
My wife and I got destroyed by Ronan. With all the surge cards we both had about 7 encounter cards turn one. Was not a fun experience won’t be playing him anytime in the future.
@Andrew Frost So heroic level 3 on a standard game ... I feel your pain. Hope you are at least enjoying Rocket and Groot!
I would’ve just given up after the 2nd side scheme lol. Do over 🤷🏻♂️
Sometimes a good whoopin' keeps the ego in check. ;)
Played this scenario 8 times this weekend before I finally beat it with a BW Leadership / Groot Justice Team. BRUTALLY DIFFICULT!
@Kurtis M Congrats on the win!! Any key cards you think are definitely needed to stand a chance?
Wow, congratulations on actually beating Ronan! Would also love to hear tips/key cards.
You almost had him!
Haha! Yep ... so close. ;)
It is the FFG's revenge. And I’m afraid
Forget Ronan and Thanos ... FFG is the real threat here! ;)
I think Ronan is broken. The 4 other villains is worth playing. My main problem with Ronan is that you cannot scale him down. Even in standard he is way too much. And the real problem is the huge amount of encounter-cards and threat from pincer and the campaign-Challenge. But let us wait on the hero-packs for the rest of the guardians. This box have had to been testet with the other cards. If this is not the case, I think ffg made this way out of the scale too hard. Thanks for showing me, i sm not the only one struggling Dale. And another concern is that it is Ronan...What about Thanos?
Haha, I've thought about scaling up Thanos too ... and expect to be stuck at the first villain. lol
For standard mode, this was brutal, and I'm pretty sure we are not alone. I'm ready for Rhino. ;)
Are you sure the campaign is not called Galaxies Most Surged???? ;)
lol. That does sound like a much better name. :D
I’m struggling with playing against Ronan. I'm usually done after round 2 lol. During the villain's turn, wouldn't you get 3 encounter cards per player? One for the villain's turn, one for the campaign side scheme, and one for the Kree ship environment?
@Tyler Arvin Thanks for watching! Those cards only add one more card for the group, not each player. Hope that helps!
That's a stupid level of difficulty. Still a great video. Thanks!
@Matt Martin Stupid Standard ... that has a nice ring to it. ;)
Thanks for watching!
Ronan is not even fun. The trick to beat him his take character that do a crap ton of damage and all you wanna do is find a way to kill him in 5 turns. It's the only way
Personnaly, I beated him with Dr. STtrange and Captain Marvel
@Thom Desrosiers This is the way.
The deck construction needed for wins now reminds me of the Lord of the Rings LCG, that game was tough too (or at least, that's how I remember it).
I found this game to be worse than when I played Heroic 3 vs Klaw. That didn't end well, but I didn't plan to win. I typically assume I stand a good chance of winning against standard mode ... but not anymore! :)
@@thom9413 I went straight Captain Marvel after this game, non-campaign of course. I felt a little better after that. ;)
if Ronan's starting set up are 2 cards that has hazard, shouldn't you be dealt 2 additional encounter cards per turn? so 3 total with Kree Supremacy + Kree Command Ship, and a permanent 2 encounters per player due to the Kree Command Ship?
@A F The hazard icon is just one additional encounter card, not one per player. Hope that helps! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer omg I've been playing wrong for months!! Thank you!!
So many rules, easy for some to get overlooked! Should make Ronan easier. ;)
After going through the campaign once. What is your dream duo to take this on next?
Superman and the Martian Manhunter. ;)
Dr. Strange and Ant-Man might work too.
@@DaletheCasualGamerCan't believe Cap isn't included!
He’s my favorite, but I don’t think he makes my personal top 5 “most powerful” heroes. I guess he and quicksilver would be good against the collector as they both have ways to ready, but my top 2 go to Ant-Man and Dr. Strange. Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Captain Marvel would probably my top 5 for power. Captain America and Wasp would probably be next. Just my opinion there. :)
If it makes y’a feel better dale. The encounter cards in front of a defeated player are just discarded. Only minions transfer over
Nope. Doesn’t make me feel better. Thanks for trying though. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer you were way more polite than I was voicing your opinion. This scenario is a bad joke. You had optimized decks vs a standard difficulty villain and never stood a chance.
@@playdgamewithsteve This is where being a "casual" gamer has me thinking "I just don't need to play these villains". I know some people have been asking for more difficult villains/plays, I personally was not, and think it was a bad decision to design such a change in difficulty. I believe what they did was good for amending "heroic" game play, but instituting those methods in a standard game, or even expert, seems a bit much.
I know there are A LOT of parents that play this game with their kids, and this may deter from further games. I've heard the quote from one kid that said, "I thought we were heroes?" after playing this in standard with there parent. And all I can say is enjoy Rocket and Groot, but leave the villains in this set on the shelf.
While I love some of the mechanics with these villains, I think they missed the mark for difficulty. There's my quick opinion. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer We played the first 4 scenarios and won (had to play Drang twice). My Daughter wants us to play in Rookie mode when we film our play through, I might just do that.
@@gamesforgamers6017 Rookie mode is a good option, especially since they took the other modes up quite a bit! Happy gaming! :)
Have you yet to beat him in the campaign?
Only 2 attempts with Rocket & Groot ... and two failures. I feel confident Ant-Man and Dr. Strange could do it, but just haven't gone back to the campaign yet.
How have you done?
It feels impossible with groot and rocket because of all Ronans attachments and side schemes
@@masterthief4219 I believe any consistent campaign play victories will need to be top tier combinations, and while I love the mechanics and playing Rocket and Groot, I wouldn't call them a top-tier team-up.
And with that said, I've only tried once solo (two handed) and once with another player. They were able to do fine with the initial 4 battles, but Ronan just has too much going on to control with existing cards. Good luck!
Those surges, are just to much.
I don’t know if you ever saw the Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls movie, but when he is getting shot with tranquilizer darts, just replace “darts” with “surges” and that’s how I felt.
3 surges is too many! (Proceeds to get more surges).
22:25 Overkill damage is not an attack :)
@Matus Sedlak Sounds correct. I was over thinking, and that's not good for anyone. lol
Now I'm second guessing my second guessing of second guessing. I think it is still damage from an "attack", just that the attack wasn't initiated against him. Overkill gets out of retaliate because the attack wasn't "initiated" against the villain. Anyway ... another instance where further clarification would be nice as I can see it going either way as the rules states the "excess damage from the attack is dealt to the villain".
Curious to see when FFG will re-post the rules reference. They had one posted for about 2 days and then took it down. Anyway, this game needed a lot more assistance for the heroes. Hope your games are going well! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer you deal 7 dmg from an attack to enemy with 2 hp. The rest is just overkill dmg, its not attack anymore. It ignores retaliate/guard etc. Retaliate has nothing with "initiating".